Zelensky Goes To Pennsylvania, the Routh Manifesto and Other News Stories

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Join the Friday news roundup with Victor Davis Hanson and cohost Sami Winc: Zelensky goes to Pennsylvania, Biden-Harris interviews run amok, the Al Smith Roast thwarted, Trump endorsed by Muslim mayor, the Routh Manifesto, Janet Jackson say Harris' father is white, and the Secret Service report on Butler, PA. 

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So Victor Zelensky,

the president of Ukraine, has made a visit to the United States at an opportune moment.

And even Pennsylvania, our swing state, is where he's camped out.

And I was wondering if you had any reflections on this.

Well, I understand that he, you know, he's taken 500 square miles inside Russia on the way to Kharkov, and yet he's bleeding.

He's got, as I said before, it's very much like the Battle of Bulge tactic where the Germans made this big bulge into the Allied lines, even though they had finite resources.

The Allies could draw on infinite resources.

And that after the bulge was pushed back, of course, they collapsed.

And so I don't quite know why he's going into toward Kharkov when he doesn't have sufficient troops to maintain a

defense perimeter to the south.

So I understand why he's under stress, and I understand that the Europeans, but let me be very clear about this.

We are

42 days out,

and the

Biden-Harris administration, of which

Camilla Harris is an incumbent vice president, and she is the Democratic nominee, and she is running for president, flew out ahead of a foreign state, Mr.

Zelensky, and they flew him out to Pennsylvania.

They didn't invite any other people to be there except Democratic politicos.

They brought him out to a swing state that most people, most people, not all, but most people feel will decide the election.

43 days before, they bring a foreign leader out.

He goes to a munitions factory, and they've been talking about job bleeding in Pennsylvania, and he signs shells with the clear message that your job depends on your government, i.e., Kamala Harris, who flew me out in a C-17,

to continue

sending billions of dollars of things like this shells.

Okay.

Was that the end of it?

No, no, no.

He gives an interview to, why doesn't he give it to one liberal and one conservative?

Or he gives it to the far-left New Yorker that hates Trump.

And in that interview, he says that the Democratic

Basically, the Democratic nominee and ticket is much more sympathetic.

And he he says that J.D.

Vance is, quote, dangerous, quote, a radical, and that Trump doesn't know what he's doing.

So this is the party that lectured us about interference.

And then he does this and trashes them because he feels they're not going to be adamant enough in extending aid to Ukraine.

And he does this, what, 10 days after somebody who was a pro-Ukrainian war nut tried tried to kill the president.

So, whatever the motives and whatever the actual, the optics are terrible.

This is, you know, it used to be called an October surprise.

This is a September surprise.

So, think about it.

They're sitting around in a room and say, Camela, our turn on polls look like we're

deadlocked.

What are we going to do?

And they said, well, We can always lower the interest rates.

Get on the phone with the Fed.

Get those interest rates cut by a half a percent.

And they they did.

And hey, what's the deal on the Strategic Petroleum Reserve?

It worked in 2020.

Well, we're going to drill that too.

And then one of them said, hey, why don't we bring Zelensky over here?

And we won't buy any Republicans at all.

It won't be bipartisan.

But we'll have Shapiro meet him.

We'll take him over to a munitions plant that's built for export of 155 millimeter shells.

Then let's arrange some interviews where he trashes Donald Trump and J.D.

Bance

and forget about whether this guy who tried to shoot him was involved in a pro-Ukrainian movement or something.

So it was stupid.

It was really stupid.

And you got to remember that this is in the context we had that Miss Ramondo, I think her name is, she's the Secretary of Commerce.

She said today

that Donald Trump,

Donald Trump, should be extinguished, gone.

Now,

that's after, remember we had last year Representative Goldman that said that he should be

eliminated.

That's after that crazy Rick Wilson said before he should put a bullet in him.

That's after

the current

basically brought in by Obama to save the Harris campaign, Mr.

Flouf, Ploof, whatever you, yeah.

He said that Donald Trump must be destroyed.

And then

this is all after these two assassination attempts.

And then we hear that Iran is serially threatened to kill Donald Trump.

And they not only have caught one person who was trying to enlist assassins for that purpose,

but they're still active on it so much that Donald Trump feels that nobody is creating deterrence.

So he gets out there today and says, if you kill,

in his view, if you kill a presidential candidate, you try to kill him, or a president, or an ex-president, we're going to reduce your cities to smithereens.

Everybody said, oh, that's so, that's what you'd get.

No, what he's trying to do is say, don't do it.

And that's an attempt to create deterrence and unpredictability because they feel it's predictably okay to try to kill Trump.

And when you put into the equation that everybody knows that Iran is terrified of him being president, and they want in the next 43 days,

Kamala Harris to win.

And that's one of the reasons why Iran and Hezbollah have not started their war yet, the big conventional war, because they don't want to embarrass the Harris-Biden administration because they feel that if she were to be elected, that would bring dividends.

And they have a perfect reason to believe that.

If you look at who got us in the Iran deal, who lifted the sanctions, who declared the Tuts no longer terrorist, who gave money to Hama, they have perfect reason to believe that.

And so this is election interference.

And this is from a party who tells us that democracy dies in darkness and the Russian collusion, laptop disinformation, that wasn't, that was all bogus.

This is not not bogus.

Can you imagine if Donald Trump, as president, in 2020,

neck and neck in the polls, brings Netanyahu on a personal invitation to tour

Pennsylvania or Michigan only with Republican politicians and then have him has him give an interview where he says that Biden and Harris are dangerous, radical, don't know what they're talking about.

Can you imagine what the Democratic Congress would do?

So

it's really scary and then we have to put into the context Putin today said that

what did he say?

I was listening to some people I admire, General Jack Keene today and a lot of people, and they said, you know,

don't fall for these saber-rattling, empty threats.

He's done it serially.

I think 30 times he or Russian media have said they're going to use a tactical nuclear weapon.

But believe me, if they, and I understand the strategy, if you're in a war and an enemy is attacking your civilian centers and they have accessible means of supply behind the lines and you have the ability to hit them, and I can see why that is strategically sound and justified.

But the little wrinkle here is they don't have the ability to do that themselves.

In order for them to hit those targets that make strategic sense, they have to use French or British or American sophisticated weapons.

Now, that violates the chief cardinal rule of 50 years of Cold War proxy conflicts, which says

if you are

engaged in a proxy war against your

nuclear rival, then you can supply the third-party proxy, a Vietnam, a Korea,

Iraq.

But

you do not use your proxy to attack the homeland of your nuclear rival.

In other words, we can fight all over the globe in Vietnam, in Laos, and Cambodia, in Korea against the Soviet Union from basically 1950 all the way through the 80s.

But the moment Khrushchev said, we're going to supply our proxy and make Cuba a proxy area of conflict, and we're going to give them the wherewithal to attack our nuclear rivals' homeland, then we went to DEF CON 1.

And that was considered grounds for what?

An embargo?

blockade,

maybe even threatening Khrushchev with nuclear weapons.

So they got to be very careful.

Everybody just blows that off.

But what we're doing is a violation.

If we do that, if they start to hit targets in Russia,

and remember, Russia is three and a half times the population, ten times the GDP,

30 times the area.

And if this Ukrainian opponent starts to hit the Kremlin or starts to hit major bases, they have the ability to retaliate in a nuclear fashion, a tactical fashion.

And nobody's ever done that before, not since World War II.

And so I don't understand the casual nature of this when everybody just says, ha,

why do we get blackmailed by Putin?

He's just a loser.

And my answer to that is, would you please tell me the strategy?

David Petraeus became famous.

when he said in the surge, tell me how it ends.

What is the strategy?

What is the strategy?

I know what the strategy of Israel is.

I will articulate it in a minute.

But what is the strategy?

Is it a war of attrition where a

nation that has just a fraction of the resources of Russia is going to try to wear it out on the border?

Zelensky made fun of J.D.

Vance, and he said he didn't know anything.

He was giving up territory.

J.D.

Vance said, essentially,

that there should be be a demilitarized zone.

They should go back to where they were on February 24th.

And then the Donbass,

they should cede the Donbass and the Crimea.

And then

they should be armed, but they should not be a member of NATO.

And Zelensky says, don't dare tell us what to do.

That's crazy.

Well, that was your position.

That was your position.

Right after you repulsed the attack on Kiev, we were told that that was the position that you wanted to negotiate.

And then Mr.

Zelensky should tell us right now,

which president said that is the policy of the United States to give Ukraine the wherewithal to fight back and get back the stolen Crimea and Donbass that occurred under Barack Obama's administration?

He says, I remember they stole it, and

Barack Obama was so certain they would never get it back.

Remember the hot Mike Solgri tell Vladimir that if he gives me space in my last election, I will give, you know, I will,

you know, look at

missile defense.

But my point is that he didn't even give them javelins.

He was so terrified.

And then we come to Trump.

Trump didn't say to Zelensky, hey, we're going to give you the wherewithal to hit targets in Russia so you can get back

prime and Biden didn't.

In fact, he said he wouldn't react unless it was a major offensive.

He said it was a minor one.

He didn't care.

In fact, he said to Barack to Vladimir Putin, hey, if you're going to use cyber warfare against targets in the United States, at least...

Don't hit hospitals and things that are humanitarian in nature.

And then this is the man who said,

we're not going to approve, we're going to suspend offensive weapons when he came in.

This is the man who said the first week when they were trying to rally forces to save Kiev, he said, hey, we'll give you a ride out.

Remember that?

We'll fly you out.

So no president has ever said

that they were going to give Ukraine the offensive weapons so that they, in conjunction with Europe and the United States, can craft a strategy to take back these areas.

They only said that after he invaded in February 24th of 2000.

Then they expanded the rationale.

They said, well, we're going to

get him out of Kiev, and they did, and we're going to push him back from where he left the Donbass.

But no one up till then said, we're going to get the Donbass back too.

That's a new agenda that they've added that no other president.

So when J.D.

Vance

proposed that, all he was doing was reiterating or maybe reifying what had had been a bipartisan consensus.

Most people said that Ukraine should not be in NATO.

And if they didn't say that, why wasn't it NATO?

Because they knew that NATO members would not approve that.

So he said that.

And most people would like a demilitarized zone between Crimea and the Donbass in Ukraine.

So what was so crazy about that?

And then he said, he doesn't negotiate.

He doesn't get in our affairs.

It was almost like you don't get in our affairs.

Yes, he doesn't get in your affairs.

Then you don't come over during an election and try to interfere and warp the outcome.

You're not an American.

You don't have a right to fly in here and go to a munitions plant in a swing state the day that early voting and mail-in balloting starts just by accident and then start trashing the two other nominees in a major left-wing magazine and then go to the UN and all this and coordinate with your ambassador.

The same Ukrainian embassy that in 2016 was writing op-eds to endorse Hillary Clinton.

The same government who

basically was in league with the Biden Consortium and

is one of the reasons why you see those big, beautiful homes that Joe Biden has.

So I understand that,

that we needed to help Ukraine defend itself.

But this Ukraino mania

is just crazy.

And the left is,

you know, for a party that says democracy dies in darkness or democracy will be on the ballot, they were right about that finally.

Democracy will be on the ballot in November.

Everybody, listen, you have a choice.

If you think it's okay for a foreign leader to come over to the United States and go to a swing state right when the voting starts and trash one party and its candidates

and then

try to politic in a munitions factory, right?

And then basically say anybody that doesn't support aid for you is stupid or doesn't know anything or a radical or dangerous.

What?

Two weeks after somebody who was a supporter of the Ukraine war, and that was his main beef, I think, with Trump, was trying to kill Trump.

That's election interference.

Yes, that's democracy under threat.

Yes, democracy's on the ballot because one party impeached a president for the first time in history twice, for the first time in history tried him as a private citizen, for the first time in history tried to coordinate with 16 states to keep him off the ballot.

For the first time in history drafted or enlisted or coordinated with, and I can show you the instances whether it's Nathan Wade or Jack Smith meeting with White House counsels or a third top attorney in the Justice Department going to work with Alvin Breg, but five, five, five

criminal or civic courtroom prosecutions, suits against Donald Trump.

That's never happened before.

Never.

No.

And that's what they're doing.

And we've never had a presidential candidate, an ex-president,

an ex-president or a presidential candidate who's been, they've been trying to kill him twice in the same summer.

And there's going to be another, as I said, I predicted the second one.

I didn't want to.

I said after the first one, if you keep calling him Hitler and an existential threat, and you say things like eliminated, extinguished, destroyed, bullet, bullseye, that was Biden, bullseye,

you keep doing that, and then you keep having a porous secret service where apparent crazy amateurs can penetrate their shield and get close to the president, at least close enough to shoot eight times at him, or close enough to point a gun at him,

then you're going to that that rhetoric combined with laxity is going to invite a lot of people.

We have 43 days left, especially with Iran now pretty clearly wanting to kill Trump.

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we just got some news out on, oh yeah, the investigation into Butler.

It seems like they just found problems and holes everywhere in that.

I think the biggest disclosure was that several minutes before he went out on the stage the Secret Service was notified by local law enforcement there was somebody with a gun and they let him go out on the stage and there was no coordination not only was there no coordination between local law enforcement

and federal officials and secret service but there doesn't seem to be any among the secret service no one was in charge there was no

There was no leadership that said, I make the decisions, you contact me immediately.

That didn't seem to exist.

And then when that intern, Mr.

Ruhl, is that his name?

Yeah.

He gives this, he has this

Tim Waltz idea that when you shout and yell and grimace and get angry, then that exudes authority and competence.

It doesn't.

Because after the second attempt,

he said everything worked pretty well.

The protocols were fired and followed and there was no shots fired.

And I'm thinking,

okay,

then the protocols depend entirely that the known, most exposed, and easily

accessed spot in which to kill a president on that frequently used golf courses by ex-presidents and presidential candidates depended on one Secret Service just happening to look through the foliage and seeing a barrel.

How about that barrel should have never been there?

How hard was it, Mr.

Head of Secret Service, when you looked at the protection plan to say,

I think we all know this golf course.

There's just one spot where you can get off the road, walk right over, put a gun right through the fence, and if he's at the right hole at the right time, you can shoot him.

Maybe 200 yards away, 100 yards away.

So we're going to put, I don't know, we'll just put one or two Secret Service agents, and they'll be on the other side of the fence, and they will have a directive that no car can stop for a moment, and they will walk up and down that fence.

How hard is that to do?

Yeah.

So,

this is all very disturbing about this country because there's no accountability, there's no meritocracy.

It's a sophisticated, very highly sophisticated country, and no one in their right mind thought it was so vulnerable.

But maybe the one, two-point punch of the George Floyd riots,

the COVID lockdown, and now the Biden-Harris hard left rule.

It's just shattered the country.

It really has.

And I mean that.

I mean, there's millions.

We've never seen millions of people leaving these blue states.

It's much greater than the Oklahoma diaspora of the 30s.

We've never seen the entire downtowns of Portland, Seattle, Minneapolis, Los Angeles, San Francisco.

Just abandoned.

Abandoned moonscapes.

These buildings in Minneapolis, there's a building that's sold today.

It sold five years ago for $96 million.

It sold for $7 million.

Wow.

$7 million.

No one wants it.

And it's because of crime.

And it was because of Tim Waltz.

And yet, he's running for president, vice president.

If people vote,

what it really is, is a continuation of this chaos.

That's what they represent.

And you can tell they represent it because

all they have to do is go out and say,

when I was, I don't know, governor of Minneapolis, my wife opened the window and wanted to get a good smell of the riot, and I didn't do anything because they had to express themselves.

And you know what?

I have an education person that helps draft the

textbooks in Minneapolis.

I like him, but he does say America should be destroyed.

That's okay.

And, you know, I was border czar and I think it was really good.

I got 10 million.

Why don't they just defend it?

Yeah.

Why doesn't Camela defend it?

I agree.

Instead of trying to disown it for, what, 43 days?

Hide, hide it for 43 days, as Bernie Sanders said she was doing.

So she's a good one.

I still have to have hope in the American people.

I don't think she can

pull it off.

I know the polls are everywhere, but when I see

New York Times-Sienna poll,

and I see Trump I had two in North Carolina, four in Georgia, five in Arizona, and I see some of the ones that have just come out where he's within one or two points.

She's going to have to win the national vote by three or four points, at least, to win the Electoral College.

And I don't quite see that yet.

So there is, I think there's a lot of hope.

And you can see what's happening to her.

She went on that we should talk about that.

The view.

Or wait, that was Joe Biden.

She does.

Let's go to the MSNBC but first let's go to some go for

the business editor or the business anchor for MSNBC yeah and we'll come back from a break and talk about that stay with us and we'll be right back

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Yeah, Victor,

so

MSNBC did an interview.

It was considered one where she went in free of her

handyman waltz or any other aid.

And it was with Stephanie Ruhl, who is a Kamala Harris supporter.

I don't think she was

secretive about that.

And I was wondering your thoughts on how well Kamala did.

I think it was another disaster.

Roll thought, because she was just nodding her head the whole time.

I mean, she's not Sean Hannity, who's kind of a

Sean never says he's a journalist.

He's a partisan talk show host.

She's not.

And she was just nodding, nodding, nodding, and the softball.

And then she just did the words out.

I believe in a holistic connection and the

holistic.

And she said that three times in 60 seconds.

And then she kept an opportunity economy.

She has that little sappy voice, and she doesn't say anything.

She just went around and around.

And you think to yourself, these people who, these Obamaites that are running her campaign, they're intelligent.

Can't they sit her down?

And they say, Camela, here is question one.

What is your agenda?

Do not mention you're from the middle class.

Do not mention you grew up in da-da-da.

Do not mention anything about yourself.

Just give us a 10-point specific things you're going to do.

Are we going to mention the wealth tax?

Do we mention the wage and price controls?

Do we mention the increased income tax rate?

Do we mention the increased inheritance tax rate?

Tell us.

Now, number two,

we've had to disown everything you've said.

Everything.

So when you're asked, why did you change on the border?

Why did you change on illegal immigration, free health care?

Why did you change on fracking?

Why did you change on confiscating guns?

We've got to get an answer for that.

We've got to get an answer.

Did you mature as a country?

Let's work on it so you have a snappy answer instead of look like a deer in the headlights.

Number three, we have to.

They're going to get you on this.

We have to iron out an answer.

You were vice president for three and a half years.

When you say we're moving forward and you want to implement this, you also said, remember, remember that.

It's by nominee.

I love, he logics.

It's still working.

It's good.

So you've said that.

So how can we say that the last three and a half years or four years, as Tim Waltz did yesterday, were bad and you're going to correct it when you're responsible.

And Joe Biden gave a talk in the view, and it's almost like it was the verbal counterpart of putting a MAGA hat on.

He said to the nation, yeah, I always had her.

She was very competent.

It was very clever what he did for someone who was senile.

Yeah, she was on every decision.

I trusted her all the time.

It was a joint.

So they need to do that.

Figure that relationship out.

And then finally, for what is the reaction of you toward Joe Biden?

Because you keep saying, I'm not Joe Biden.

I'm not Joe Biden.

Yes, that's good.

And

you have to say, what?

The vice president doesn't have full powers,

or

the role of vice president is not to set policy, or you support everything he did, and things are wonderful.

But come on, we got to get it down.

But they never do it.

So then she said, I grew up the middle class.

I just want to tell you.

And it's a holistic and it's holistic.

And

I like lawns.

And

it doesn't Or her other alternative when she was asked about tariffs was to say Donald Trump's tariff policy was bad.

And then she just went off on a riff and the Stephanie Rule sat there going, okay, you're not talking about what you are going to do.

Well, she adopted it.

They have it right now.

The Biden-Harris.

They're using these tariffs.

And she kept saying it's inflationary.

What do you mean?

You mean if China has 20% tax on American goods and we don't have 20%, that's inflationary.

So be specific.

Donald Trump said he's not just going to put tariffs on countries that don't put tariffs on us.

They're going to be directed symmetrically to restore equilibrium.

And so that

what I'm getting, and when I watch that today, and then you

compare and contrast with the Oprah interview, with the Association of Black Journalists interview, with the local Philadelphia anchor man interview.

Now we're up to four.

And with the,

I guess that was an interview, Dana Bash with the multiple choice answers provided for Waltz and her.

She's only done

five,

and I think Trump's done 74.

But all of them have been not good.

Not good.

And they're cementing a picture.

that she doesn't know what she's saying, that she can't articulate ideas, that she's sappy, which brings her into this 43-day doom loop.

So if you're her handlers, you say,

let's go play the tape with the Oprah deal.

Oh my God, let's go play the tape with a three-black journalist.

Oh my God.

How about Stephanie?

Oh my God.

So what do we do?

What do we do?

They're all hammering us, they say, even some of our guys, our own team, even the toadies in the media that usually we control, they're saying she's got to give more interviews.

It's not fair.

So, what do we do?

Do we put her out there and get more and more and she can blow up everything?

Or do we just keep her back and try to run out the clock?

And then the pollster comes in the room and he says, Hey, these internal polls are even at best.

You better ask for a debate.

But not on Fox, but on another channel.

Get another debate so the moderators can weigh the scales and we can bait Trump and he'll go berserk.

So that's what's going on.

And

I don't know what she's supposed to be doing because she doesn't do these four answers.

She does not tell us what she's going to do.

She does not explain why she doesn't do it now as the vice president.

She does not tell us why she's flipped and rejected her whole ideological career.

And she doesn't tell us the relationship, if there is any, anymore, with Joe Biden to the degree that she's culpable.

And her talents are clearly to talk empty like a bureaucrat and to fill it up with words that come from those self-affirmation tapes she used to listen to.

The more I think about this, I think he is so,

to the degree that he has rare lapses of clarity, Joe Biden.

Joe Biden.

I think he gets so angry at Pelosi

and Harris and the Obamas.

And they asked him in that interview,

moving to the

view interview,

he said, What's your relationship with Pelosi?

He just went,

He couldn't answer.

Alzheimer's took over.

Yeah, it did.

And I think what he's doing when he puts the MAGA hat on, or he tells the nation that she was in on every decision, and he's complimented her.

That's a compliment.

Yeah, I trusted her.

She was a partner.

And that he is trying to get back back at them and Pelosi.

Because

I think that when they got rid of him, there were people like the Obamas that wanted an open convention because they thought they had a better chance with Rechen Whitmore or Josh Shapiro or Gavin Newsom and Harris team kamikaze them and Biden said to them, because he had all the delegates.

He just said, if you're going to decapitate me, I announced that all my delegates go to Camilla.

She's my successor.

And they were struck because

they thought they were going to have an open convention for a couple of days or whatever.

So he's got this history of kind of

promoting and putting the Harris albatross around their neck and then

make sure to the extent that he's sane or clear that it smells.

And he's doing that.

Yeah, putting the Trump hat on.

Yes.

And then the thing that's going on on as well: Team Trump's researchers are like little squirrels all night collecting nuts, and they're going through thousands of hours of video, and they find a lot of nuts.

And so, the latest one was she's in 2019 in a Los Angeles Valley, and there's a bunch of little kids, and she and the famous Juicy Smollett, soon-to-be

what?

Disgraced race hustler, liar,

convicted felon, to whom she tweeted, This is a hype, this is a modern-day lynching.

She's never taken that tweet down either, by the way.

But they were in Los Angeles, and they were going, no, deport, no, no, no, deport, no, depart, no, deport.

Wasn't it yes, yes, education, no, no, depart.

Deportee.

Yeah, so, and they found, you know, and she's always emphatic because she's always afraid to go to hostile or even neutral audiences.

So when when she says things like, let me be clear, I'm for fracking.

Let me be clear.

No way about it.

I'm for the new Green Deal.

The border is secure.

It's secure.

No deportation.

No, no, no deportation.

So she's emphatic, so it's hard for her to disown it.

And there's more out there.

They have on her tape, they've already

mined another nugget, reparations, remember?

Al Sharpton at his convention?

And would you sign a bill?

Yes, I will.

I will sign a reparation bill if it comes across my desk.

Okay.

That's.

There you go.

That's count number five against her.

That Zoom interview was really bad.

Did you see Joe Biden showed up?

I noticed that.

I don't know if anybody's noticed it.

He had,

I saw it on TV, and I've seen it at Stanford campus, so I can see that.

The view interviewer, you're saying yeah okay go ahead he had a pin on his lapel did you see it no I didn't notice yes it was a United States flag so far so far and what was the other flag uh oh Mexico or something no it could be Palestinian they would look

Ukraine it was the Ukraine oh yes the Ukraine he was showing empathy with Ukraine and that kind of tied him to the Zelensky visit yeah and I'm thinking well wait a minute

Zelensky and the Ukrainians suspended habeas corpus.

They outlawed all political parties.

They haven't had an election since the invasion or even before that.

Israel has a wartime coalition government.

Netanyahu is going to face, as soon as his

time comes up, he will have a parliamentary

election.

And

Israel hasn't...

suspended habeas corpus and it's our longest and oldest tried and trusted ally but you can't wear a U.S.-Israel flag because you're worried about Michigan and a quarter million Muslim voters.

And more importantly,

I guess you don't support Israel.

Harris wouldn't want that, but you do support Ukraine.

It gets back to that old dichotomy.

Israel, you must have a ceasefire.

Ukraine, onto Moscow.

Israel, are you texting people in their homes about collateral damage?

Ukraine?

We don't care.

Just go ahead and hit targets.

Israel,

do you have members of the opposition in your government?

So it's a broad consensus of Israeli politicians, left and right.

Zelensky, cancel it.

We don't care.

Cancel elections.

Might as well get rid of habeas corpus, too.

That's fine.

We don't really care.

And so,

Israel,

we want you to be proportionate.

Proportionality is the rule of this war, so so do not be too disproportionate.

Zelensky?

You better hit them hard, those SOBs.

Hit them ten times harder than they hit you.

And

you explain it, I don't.

I can explain the hatred of Israel because it's essentially one of two things.

Either anti-Semitism or it is

political calculus that you don't want to offend the DEI,

which is fused around Palestine.

But I don't quite see the hysteria about Ukraine, except

the onto Moscow people, give them everything so they can destroy.

That is a derivative of the

collusion, collusion, disinformation, disinformation.

Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Michael Finn.

These people loved Putin.

Which is really weird.

Because who gave us Russian reset?

Who went to Geneva with that jacuzzi button and pushed it?

Hillary Clinton.

Hillary Clinton did that.

They appeased him, appeased him, appeased him, appeased him.

And who killed the Wagner group?

Who flooded the world with cheap oil?

Who gave Ukraine javelins?

Who got out of an asymmetrical missile deal?

Who sanctioned oligarchs?

Trump did.

So I don't quite see it, but

they feel that they're kind of in that Hollywood mood where every Jack and I have talked about every villain is a gap-tooth,

Russian Orthodox huge giant that kills people.

He's the villain.

Used to be South Africans.

Now it's Russians.

And so,

but this Ukrainian, Ukraine, Ukraine.

And then another thing about the view, I don't know if you've noticed that.

They were into the eliminationist

mode as well.

And it was,

Whoopi Goldberg went nuts.

She compared Donald Trump to a bug.

Do you remember that?

Yeah.

She goes, oh, he's around my face.

He's a bug.

He's just like some bug.

Does she have any idea of that dehumanizing metaphor where it goes back to about insects?

The Jews are insects and they need to be exterminated like you would Jews.

And Zygon B was an insecticide, basically.

Yeah.

And it

birthed the organophosphate and

organochloride insecticide industry worldwide after that.

Yeah, she should know about that, but does she really?

I couldn't tell you.

I don't know.

And then, remember, at Stanford University, Ben Shapiro was scheduled to speak, and they had Ben begun with RAID spray cans like he was a Jewish insect.

So, what did Biden do with that?

Did he say,

you know,

no one

opposes Trump more than I do, but I don't really want to

talk in terms of that he's a bug.

But you know what he did?

he put his hand on like yeah he smashed it like killed him

this is the guy who used to brag about taking him behind the gym and beating him up yep

it's just this is we're all in new territory because they won't stop it's really weird it's like the democratic and the left is now saying

well

they've tried to kill him twice And that might keep him in the race.

So

we're not going to show any empathy for him.

It's either deserved it or we're going to keep talking and talking and talking and talking about it.

Maybe somebody,

what was it, 25% polled they would like to see him dead of Democrats?

25%?

I think it was 24% said they were indifferent to it.

So 50% didn't object strenuously.

Yeah, so

I think there are.

I don't know what they're thinking, but

they talk in terms that enable and encourage people to try something stupid and evil.

And it's kind of sad when the candidate has to threaten Iran or make the argument that presidential candidates, not just himself, but in general, an ex-president, should not have to be almost killed twice within three months.

Yeah.

Well, Victor, since we're on the topic, did you notice that maybe I saw something wrong, but I thought I saw Putin say that he supported Kamala Harris.

Is that true?

He did.

He said that he thought that, what did he say?

It was something about her laugh that she must be confident or something, or people have remarked about they like.

So

you can look at it two ways.

You can say that he hates Kamala Harris, so he knows they hate him,

and so he's endorsing her,

right?

So she'll lose.

Yeah, to make her look bad.

Or,

and I think more likely, he's trying to say nice things about her so she gets elected, because he thinks if she were to be elected, it would be even a bigger bonanza than senile Joe Biden.

And the last thing he

wants is Donald Trump in there.

They keep saying he wants Donald Trump.

He doesn't want Donald Trump.

Yeah.

Well, that is bad optics.

I think another bad optics for Kamala this week was that the IRS came out to support her.

Did you see that?

It's the IRS Union of Employees.

Yeah, the union.

I did a Newsmax interview today

and

in regard to her speech today where she said,

Donald Trump is with the people who build the big skyscrapers, and I'm the people who clean them and wire them and plumb them.

So Newsmax went across the street from their studio studio and they saw a building and they just randomly started asking people.

Every single one of them was voting for Trump.

All of the construction workers are cement guys.

Doesn't she see that she's an elitist and her party are elitist?

And all of this left-wing ideology is either driven by their own guilt because they're materially well-off and they don't like the middle class.

Or

they feel

guilty.

Is that what it is?

They're guilty about their wealth.

Or that they feel that they have certain traits now that are globalist and cosmopolitan.

But whatever it is, they don't like the middle class.

For some strange reason, this billionaire Donald Trump feels he's part of it, he likes middle-class people, and they respond to it.

And we'll see.

Where he's hemorrhaging

and he's gaining, he's somewhere around 20 to 25% of blacks, which is incredible.

And he may be, the latest poll had him 49 percent of Hispanics.

They bled 11 in Arizona, 11 points.

But the reason that he can't break out is he is polling 20 points

less with women than he did in 2020.

And that's because of the Dobbs decision and J.D.

Vance and stuff like that.

Yeah.

And abortion, abortion, abortion.

And And he just said that

he wants to be a protector of women.

And they tried to turn that against him.

What if he said, I don't want to be a protector of women?

Exactly.

If you were a young

cosmopolitan woman in a big city, would you like to have Camilla Harris, who has said in the past she wanted to also buy back handguns or guns?

I would want somebody to say, I want to make it easy for you to carry a concealed weapon.

Yeah.

And I'll have police around.

Unless, you know, until the police are refunded.

Well, Victor, let's go ahead and take a break and come back and talk a little bit about Ryan Roth.

Stay with us and we'll be back.

We're back and Victor, so we have Ryan Roth's manifesto that was found and inside of it he had a bounty on Trump $150,000.

That was pretty unusual.

I didn't understand that.

Yeah.

I mean who's the person he gave it to?

And why did she wait or hey or whoever they why did they wait over a week to release it?

Is it like, oh,

that's the guy that I saw on TV that just killed, oh, by the way, he gave me this parcel.

I'll just sit on it for a week.

I won't open it.

I don't believe that.

And why would even Bill Barr, who cannot stand Donald Trump, the former Attorney General of the United States under Trump, said, why in the world would they release this manifesto

for two reasons why they should not have released it.

Number one, they're on record that you do not release

assassins or potential assassins manifestos, at least not for a long time.

Do we remember the Nashville shooter who killed three innocent little kids and three adults?

Adrian

Hale?

Adrian Hale.

That was it.

You've got a good memory.

Yeah, I do.

Sometimes.

And anyway, in that thing,

it was just a racist diatrap.

It was about horrible white crackers, and it was a pro-gay, pro-trans, and they didn't want to release it because they thought it might be inflammatory or bring odium upon trans people or question maybe the sobriety of people who transition.

I guess that was a purpose of suppressing it.

They didn't hesitate about suppressing this.

They released it very quickly.

And this thing is a manifesto that says, $150,000.

I'm sorry, I didn't get to kill him.

I failed in my mission.

But I'm passing the torch to you people, basically.

And here's $150,000.

I don't know where he got it.

Maybe he sold his South Carolina house.

Everybody said, well, nobody would believe that, Victor.

No, there's some people who believe anything.

And And that there's going to be some shooters, would-be shooters, and whether they actually act out their mental agendas depends on the degree of deterrence

that the Secret Service can offer.

It depends on how much they hear that Trump is Hitler or a dictator or horrible and should be taken out.

or how many polls they look at when a large segment of the population wants to kill him.

And some of them will think I'll get $150,000.

It was a direct incitement.

That was the government that did that.

The DOJ.

That was Merrick Garland.

Yeah, I think this guy will be in jail for the rest of his life, or at least I hope so.

I don't count on that.

You have Ron DeSantis can get him on state charges.

Yeah.

But I don't have any confidence in the Biden DOJ.

None.

Zilch, none.

Not when they let go all those people, the 14,000 that were arrested in the George Floyd Antifa BLM riots, and then applied a very different standard to January 6th, which came up in the news today as well.

January 6th did.

There was some information that the FBI had not been quite candid about the number of people who may have been

informants.

that were circulating among the capital.

And that goes back to Matthew Rosenberg, the Pulsar Pulsar Prize winner.

Remember, he got ambushed by James O'Keefe's team, and I think a young, attractive woman in a bar had him, when he had a few drinks, say, it was a joke.

These people were just psychodrama.

Everybody, the New York Times is freaking out.

I just walked around there.

I saw all the local familiar FBI informants.

They were all circulating.

Yeah.

So that may well have been true.

Yeah, there may have been quite a bit.

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So,

well, Victor, let's turn to the Al Smith Roast, the Catholic Charities.

and apparently Kamala won't go to this.

This is a charity where

both the candidates for the

presidential candidates are roast each other.

So they make it.

It was the Al Smith dinner.

It's a tradition.

There's only one person in the last 40 years who hasn't gone.

Walter Mondale, 1984.

And we know what happened to him.

He got buried in a landslide.

The whole roast for two purposes.

It raises money for the New York City Catholic

Diocese.

Diocese, excuse me, I've got something in my mouth.

Diocese.

And

that's a charity, so the money that people pay a lot to attend this and be entertained.

And it's supposed to, for one brief second, in this knockdown, drag out, mean presidential races, Mondale versus Reagan the year that Mondale didn't show up, or the bitter Obama Romney, or the bitter George Bush Kerry.

It's supposed to bring a moment of levity.

And even Hillary and Trump went, and they were pretty good.

Both of them kind of roasted each other, but she was laughing at what he said about her, and he was even laughing about what she said about him.

So it's kind of a way of the church to say, we're going to be ecumenical.

It's nonpartisan.

And she blew it up.

It doesn't exist.

She just said, nope, I'm not doing it.

I'm not doing it.

It's like a Fox News event, I guess.

The subtext, of course, is:

it's very hard to be a stand-up comedian and read off the teleprompter.

It really does not look good.

And that's all you can do.

Or you can do your canned lines that have nothing to do with the questions that's asked.

Her answers are always misplaced.

They're not calibrated, you know.

She just plugs in five, 15, 30-second little sound bites she's memorized.

Yeah.

And then she runs out of them.

And then it's nine-minute interview, 10-minute interview.

What hurt her in the debate was she was smoother and calmer than Trump.

But afterwards, they couldn't find any sound bites, not one.

So even the 25 million people who watch NBC, ABC, CBS, NPR, PBS, all those, they were hearing sound bites that had nothing to do with the questions or the topic at hand.

And

insidiously, he started to be, in retrospect, even with her after the debate, because he did answer the questions.

Yeah.

Well, it looks like Trump has been endorsed by the mayor,

a mayor of

it's Hamtrak, and it's a largely Muslim city.

His name is Emir Ghalib, and that's in Minnesota, and he's endorsing Trump.

Did you see that this week?

I did, and

I didn't understand it.

And

I don't know why he's doing it.

Is it because

he hates the ideas they want Biden to lose?

And because Biden didn't...

They didn't support the Palestinians strongly enough, I hope.

So he's going to support Trump?

Yeah.

But Trump wouldn't either.

So it's a really strange situation, but it seems like they

obviously don't want Kamala to win.

But

I didn't quite understand.

I think they

didn't they advertise it as the only

city

in which the entire

the entire city council and the mayor, that's what I'm trying to get at,

were all for,

I mean, they were, it was the only city of some, I guess you distinguish it from a town in which the mayor, everybody in city council was Arab American.

Yes.

So that made it even weirder because it wasn't as if,

you know what I mean,

that he was some maverick or outlier.

He must have had the consensus of his

and I know where that place is generally.

It's in Michigan.

His city council, yeah, he must have had it.

It's not too far from that area.

And

so

I don't know why he did it.

I'm glad he did it.

Maybe there were other issues like the economy or crime

or immigration, illegal immigration.

How about this one?

Did you see that Janet Jackson said that Kamala isn't black to the Guardian newspaper?

And she said,

well, my understanding is her father is white.

And Whoopi Goldberg kind of defended her.

He said, she said, basically, you got to let Janet Jackson have some slack.

But at the same time, Whoopi was like, I don't know why she would say that.

They don't like to attack her.

I guess she was, well, we know that her mother was not black.

And we know her father is Jamaican, but her father has referenced his Irish ancestors that came to Jamaica and owned slaves.

So

I don't know.

I mean,

he looks as if he's African-American, her father.

Professor Harris.

Yeah.

And

I don't know what.

I mean, the whole thing is ridiculous, isn't it?

Because then we get into matters of genealogy and DNA, and we're right back to the old Confederate one-drop rule.

Yeah.

And don't laugh.

I think Hallie Berry, when she was in a custody fight, I just remember that she invoked that one drop.

Yeah, the one drop rule is good.

And I have

our contested child custody suit.

If she's got one drop of black blood, she's mine.

That's basically the argument she used.

That's what the, you know, the funny thing about all this is you have to ask yourself when these admission officers act like they're Socratic or they're above the fray and they start admitting people by race, what calibration do they use?

I don't think they just let anybody just say that.

I think they allow self-identification, don't you?

I don't think so.

You don't think so?

I had a student, I won't mention his name, that said he was African-American because he came from North Africa, meaning he was Arab American.

But he didn't say that.

And you know that a lot of African Americans have taken Arab names.

Yes, and did he get away with that?

Yeah, no.

No, no, no, he did not.

It went zero, they knew

so the point is they must have some mechanism

they must i don't know how they do it it must be some racialist mechanism i suppose that pretty soon we'll have dna badges on campus i suppose that's horrible well victor i have oh go ahead did you have something no i don't i i i don't i think that's once you go down that racial essentialism pathway then how do you adjudicate it yeah if you don't adjudicate it then you get a nation of ward churchills and elizabeth warrens the first Native American law professor at Harvard.

And Ward Churchill.

At least

I have more admiration for him than

Elizabeth Warren.

Why do you say that?

Because he went the whole nine yards.

She didn't wear buckskins and headbands and Native American jewelry.

That's because she had deluded herself that her high cheekbones made the difference.

Yeah, but at least he tried to be fake.

She didn't even try.

She just looked like a wealthy, blonde, entitled person that was trying to calm Harvard into hiring him, and otherwise that wouldn't have

hired her.

But he

put the whole garb on, and he actually was a professor of Native American studies, so he faked that.

He went to the length of line on a federal affidavit for his employment, said he was Native American ancestry.

Did they fire him?

I don't remember the individual.

You know what?

They

fire him, and he sued.

They fired him for the wrong reasons.

They should have fired him for lying on an affidavit under oath about, and I don't think they did that.

I think they fired him for his crazy rants about America after 9-11, and then

he took pictures in Libya.

I think I'm doing this by memory of an AK-47.

He was a terrorist.

One of his wives died under mysterious circumstances.

But

they sued.

The former governor of Colorado, I happened to be giving a lecture and I had dinner with him and he was asking me

if

he really had grounds and he had grounds and he recited the things that Ward Churchill had done that were inflammatory.

And they wanted to fire him.

And I didn't stick up for Ward Churchill.

I just said it would be very hard to fire him on any matter of free expression, unless he advocated violence or the use of force or what that was before hate speech you know before the era of hate speech the weird thing is they called me up after that happened and he was getting a lot of money speaking and they wanted me to debate him at the University of Colorado at Boulder and I said I would I had only two requests I said

that the room not be stocked by partisans.

They divide the room up so half would be on each side.

And

I wanted whatever.

I didn't ask for

a sizable, I didn't specify the honorarium for.

And by the way, I had to fly all the way from the Fresno airport to Boulder.

So he was there.

So I just said, whatever he gets, I'll get.

And just make a dividing line so that as many people can come into the room as he does.

And they said, fine.

And then he,

I think he left a long rambling message on my tape and my home phone.

It was really weird, kind of angry.

And he was trying to,

I don't know what he was trying to do.

But it didn't happen.

You know,

I don't do those anymore.

In my earlier days, I did things with it.

I debated Ariana Huffington.

the guy that wrote Guns, Germs, and Steel,

Jared Diamond.

He was actually a nice nice person.

It was a polite debate.

Yeah.

But I don't do that anymore.

No.

Well, we're almost at the end of our time here, Victor.

I just wanted to ask you one thing.

It's really gross, so if you don't want to talk about it, we don't have to.

But have you seen this

arrest of Sean Diddy Combs and that whole scene that he was his freak offs, I think they called them?

It was polysexual.

I mean, it just seemed like

they were he was engaging in gay sex, bisex, group sex, heterosex,

drug-induced sex.

He was saying very strange things, like he kept the temperature hot so people would be more sweaty, ready or and they would the alcohol would have greater effect on women, and he was joking about locking women in.

And he it's hard to know if he was he wasn't as

he had the same resources or more than Epstein did.

But Epstein was more conniving and

in a way more sinister because

he had it down to a T, where Combs just was an egomaniac narcissist who thought he could do anything openly.

But they both had the same modus operandi, and that is get as many

politicos

and

as many celebrities as you can to go to these orgies and then tape them and don't tell them and video them.

And so he's got a whole corpus.

And just like Epstein,

the first conviction he got off, he just said, he pled to a minor offense.

Two things will happen.

Either he will not be convicted

or he'll be killed in prison.

I hate to say that, but I think that'll happen because there's too many powerful people that are on those tapes.

So they'll either get rid of him and then they'll get in possession somehow of the

incriminated.

If he was smart, he would have doubles, triples.

But then, you know, he doesn't want to show them or admit that he owns them because it would probably show him himself engaged in activity with people who were underage.

The other thing is

there's a couple things.

The things that he engaged in, and this is what's strange, is that now

we're in the era where we don't don't judge types of sexual activity or expression.

You know what I mean?

For example, sodomy, we don't have the biblical reservations, I think, which were based on hygiene in the Bible,

among other things, and we don't get into trans as this and that, or we don't get into transvestism, we don't judge.

But when you go back to classical literature, And you read Apuleius or you read Suetonius or you read Petronius, there are certain indicators that these empirical writers use.

Petronius indulged in the very things he wrote about in this fictional novel, but my point is this: and they're classic.

And when a society becomes very affluent, materialistic, atheistic,

leisured, then

that

what they call luxus, L-U-X-U-S, that luxury or decadence, manifest itself sexually.

And then things start to be predictable.

They engage in group

sex.

They engage in voyeurism.

They engage in cross-dressing.

They engage

in

bisexuality, pansexuality, every type of

out of boredom, I don't know, or something.

And

we can't have their classical attitude of seeing that sexual quote-unquote perversion as a sign of civilizational decay.

Do you remember that

was he a Senate or Congressional aide, that young man that went into the hollowed chambers of Congress and filmed himself being anally penetrated?

Yes,

he had some kind of jock strap on, and he filmed it.

And then he became a victim.

And he said, I don't have any apologies for loving someone of my sex.

And And it's not about that.

It's about going buck naked into a

hall of Congress and then committing an unsafe sex act and filming it in an exhibitionist manner.

And we used to call that perverted, but we don't.

But the ancients did, and other societies do.

So when Diddy gets this level of affluence and he gets his swimming pools and his tenants and his six or seven homes, then what does he keep?

He gets his drugs, he gets his alcohol, he gets this, he gets that.

Then he experiments with every type of sexual deviance.

And finally,

if you read these novels like the Satyracon, or you look at the lives of the Twelve Caesars, or just to take two examples, there's many

more all through classical literature.

Ultimately, the final expression of this sexual deviance is sadomasochism and

sadism.

they're all violent.

Yeah.

Violence, violence, violence, violence.

Whipping people, chaining them up, hitting them, beating them.

Kind of like whatever happened to David Carradi.

Remember him?

Oh, yeah.

He died in his own closet.

Strangled or something.

Yeah, strangled.

Some type of asphyxiation sex.

Yeah, exactly.

So, yeah,

he's not a very nice guy, did he?

But then again,

the whole rap industry's been given a pass.

I mean,

we've been talking about Rich Lowry, a very good guy.

I didn't always agree with him politically, but he was a gentleman.

He was

very talented, and he was very ethical.

So he, as we said with Jack,

I guess he wanted to use the now politically correct term migrant rather than immigrant.

Illegal immigrant just becomes migrant.

So as he was saying,

he went like immigrant my and he didn't make the correction from the short I to the long I.

So he said migrant, migrant, migrant, m-i-g-r-a-n-t.

And then immediately the PAC came after him and said he used the n-word.

And

Indiana State University canceled him.

Yeah.

And so did the Badger Institute of Wisconsin.

That's insane.

And they were a conservative, supposedly dash libertarian group.

Yeah.

And they're corporate sponsors, apparently.

And

that would have been a prime

wonderful occasion if they had not canceled him and said, you know, we don't engage the mob.

And we don't, and there's nothing in this man's career that have ever suggested one iota of racism.

And this is right out of we said before, Philip Ross Human Stain novel and others.

And so

it's a weird society right now.

It's a strange culture where we're going to be able to do it.

Try to destroy people's reputation over nothing.

But my point was about rap music because you're going to go do that for him when he didn't say that.

And then some of the wealthiest people in the United States have made their millions using the N-word along with

in their songs, yeah.

Yes, and misogynist language about kill the bitch, slap the bitch, and then pop up and kill the police.

I remember that Barack Obama had rappers into the White House, one of whose ankle bracelet went off.

But they remember the other one,

to pimp a butterfly, Kenrick Lamar.

And he Obama said this was his favorite rapper.

And he and I looked at the text and it was about kill the popo, the police.

So I don't understand how we can be so hypersensitive.

I understand the history of racism and all that, but I don't see how

seven decades into the civil rights and repatory affirmative action and all these remedies, I don't see how you can give a complete exemption for a multi-billion dollar industry for people to face no social criticism or program for using the N-word, which then you turn around and say that if a person uses any word in the English language that even sounds like it, we're going to destroy your career because that's no exaggeration.

You and I talked, I think we did, about the person who used

the adjective for stingy, N-I-G-G-A-R-D-L-Y,

and they tried to destroy him as well.

Yet, just to be completely insensitive on the flimsy rationale, well, the black community is allowed to use pejoratives and obscenities to denigrate one another or to show affection for one another in a way that other communities are not.

Yes, that's true.

That is the argument.

So we'll leave it at that, Victor.

Thank you so much for your time today.

It was wonderful, and I'm sure your listeners enjoyed it as well.

Thank you, everybody, for listening.

I appreciate it.

Yeah, thanks.

And this is Sammy Wink and Victor Davis-Hanson, and we're signing off.