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Let's start off today, Victor.

So much to talk about, like Elon versus

Gavin Newsom, Trump on sanctuary cities, some polling.

But I think given some of the events of the last few days in Ukraine, it would be good to start off the show with your thoughts on that.

And we'll get to all this right after these important messages.

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Victor, Ukraine has of late, and particularly in the last few days through drones, et cetera, brought some pain.

to Russia, some significant, I think, blowing up one ammo, huge ammo dump,

and other,

we'll call them incursions.

I'll call them incursions, high-tech, low-tech, high-tech incursions.

So, Victor, this,

I don't know, does it bring the war into a new dimension?

What are the ramifications for it?

And is it poking a bear that might end up with some really, really devastating, consequential actions by the Soviet Union?

Your thoughts.

Well, and the end of everything, the book I just wrote came out on May 7th of this year.

I have an epilogue where I went through all of the potential hotspots that could turn existential, and one of them was Ukraine.

And

they serially, let's make that clear, generals, media people, politicians, Putin himself, serially threatened to use

both tactical nuclear weapons and to hit suppliers with strategic.

And of course, they're deterred by us, the United States,

because of our nuclear arsenal but given the current leadership I'm not sure that our word or our deterrent image is that strong anymore but the point is this

everybody be clear Russia started that war

and

under strategic calculus if Russia has invaded a foreign country and you want to expel Russia,

then it is a and they are attacking civilian targets from Mother Russia.

The same thing is true.

Strategically, it makes sense to retaliate in kind.

I have no problem with that.

If you want to get Russia out

much more effectively than just pushing in a World War I slugfest where you're outnumbered, is to hit the oil, the gas, the supply, the command and control that is fueling us.

I get that.

But that's not just a strategic consideration.

There is a geostrategic.

Russia has almost 65 to 7,000, excuse me, 65 to 7,000 nuclear weapons.

And it's controlled by a volatile, unstable dictator who has had health problems.

Okay.

And we have a weak United States and a weaker NATO and EU that does not convey

an image

of deterrent efficacy and determination.

So when you keep hitting them, you're trans, just to be aware, I'm just saying to be aware of it, you're transmogrifying this role to the Russian people from one of

this was stupid.

Why did he do this?

We already had de facto the Crimea and the Donbass.

It was just wearing them out.

We were going to get it institutionalized.

Why did he want to take all of Ukraine?

This is crazy.

Two, oh my God, they're attacking Mother Russia.

And as we've said, end times, for the nth time,

history, I hate this term, but history, I don't want to say teaches us, they all say,

it does demonstrate.

that when you fight Russia outside its borders, like in Kiev, or like like in Finland in 1939 or 40, or like Poland in 1920 to 21 or 22,

or like Japan

in 1905.

They're not very good.

They don't have an expeditionary capability commiserate with what they can do in their homestead.

But if you go into the territory of Russia, whether you're Charles XII

or Napoleon or Adolf Hitler,

then then you've got a whole different war because there is something about the Russian people who consider the soil of Russia, Mother Russia, it's not a masculine idea like the fatherland of Germany.

It's a maternal nourishing idea.

Then they are galvanized, no matter whether it's Stalin whom they detested, but they rallied around, or whether it's a Tsar.

They will rally around if you go into Russia.

So they should be aware of that.

They are aware of that.

This administration just keeps saying, hit this, hit this with no thing, with no consequence.

There's another strategic truth.

During the Cold War, that 50-year, god-awful Cold War, you know, we lost 100,000 Americans in the Cold War in Korea, Vietnam, and assorted misadventures.

But in that Cold War, There were certain rules that we had with our nuclear antagonists.

And they were simply this.

There are going to be proxies, all proxy wars all over the globe.

Russia will be feeding the Vietnamese to kill us

in Vietnam.

Russia and China will even be sending troops to kill us in Korea.

We will be feeding troops in Afghanistan

in Charlie Wilson's supposed war

to defeat and use our weapons to kill Russians.

We will support any insurrection we can against a Soviet-dominated country that wants to be liberated.

That was the rules.

But, but, but

we will not and they will not

use a proxy and supply it with weapons to attack the motherland of their rival.

And when they got close,

and they did get close, when Khrushchev sent nuclear-tip missiles, supposedly capable, we don't know whether there was actually nuclear weapons, but when they sent those missiles to Cuba and they were pointed at U.S.

cities, JFK said, no, you broke the rules.

And he was willing to go to DEF CON 1 and have a nuclear standoff and blockade the entire island and turn back Soviet warships because they violated the rule.

And what we are doing now, just to be sure, we are sending the most sophisticated weapons in our arsenal.

We're starting to, EPS-15,

javelins, HIMARS, Abrams,

and they are using these weapons

shortly and currently in some cases against Russia.

And that in the Russian mind, I'm not saying I agree with it, but in the Russian mind, that is analogous to what

they did with Cuba and what we did in response.

And I wouldn't be surprised that if we keep doing it, they will try to blockade or prevent, and they won't be able to, but they'll try.

the shipment of U.S.

strategic arms that are used against the homeland of Russia.

That's where we're headed.

And

the problem with all this is we have no discussion about this.

We have no discussion.

The Biden administration has never given us a strategy.

All this onto Moscow crowd never tells us, this is a strategy.

We are giving these weapons so that in one year, two years, three years,

Ukraine will expel what?

Every Russian out of the Donbass, out of Crimea.

That was never the intention the Obama, Trump, or Biden administration prior to February 24th of 2022.

Nobody ever said that.

Now that is what?

That is our intention.

It's not going to happen.

Just because you saved Kiev and you're winning along some of the borders and you've got troops inside Russia does not mean

you have the money or the manpower or the equipment to dislodge a million Russians from Crimea and Donbass.

But is that what you want to do?

Tell us.

And

what are you willing to do,

to quote the untouchables, that great David Mammoth screenplay, what are you willing to do to win, if that is your agenda?

Are you willing to hit the Kremlin?

Are you willing to hit deep into Russia?

Tell us.

Just tell us.

Tell the American people.

And how much money?

$100 billion, $200 billion, a half a trillion dollars?

Tell us.

But they don't.

They tell us about Israel.

They tell us all the time, we are not giving them, she just told us, as Vice President of the United States just said, we are not going to give them 2,000 pound bombs until they agree to a ceasefire.

Okay, that's our strategy.

The strategy is, Israel, you cannot win a Willett military victory over Hamas.

We won't let you do it.

We will not let you destroy Hamas.

It's too much collateral damage.

Nope, can't do it.

They never say to Ukraine there's collateral damage.

You have to have a ceasefire.

You have to have a coalition wartime government.

None of that.

So that's what they should do.

But they don't.

They don't.

They have no strategy.

And you're going to, what, stumble and bumble into a confrontation with a nuclear Russia, who's now an ally of China, Iran, North Korea, and de facto, maybe India, and even

Turkey,

if you look at who's supplying them and who buys their oil.

And to our south,

Venezuela, and

how many other emerging...

So I just want to hear, I hear all this about,

and I'm not taking this extreme paleo position that Ukraine is horrible and Zelensky's worse than Putin.

I don't believe that.

I believe he's corrupt.

I believe he's anti-democratic.

I believe he shouldn't suspend habeas corpus.

I believe he outlawed political parties in a fashion that if Netanyahu tried that, he would be cut off completely from U.S.

aid.

But he's a much preferable figure to Vladimir Putin.

And Ukraine did not invade Russia, just like Israel did not attack Hamas on October 7th.

So I support their...

giving money for them to defend themselves, but they need to tell us

what constitutes that defense, and they won't do it.

So go you give them weapons to go into russia and you have violated the cheap tenet of the cold war and we know what happens when that happened in cuba that's my point right

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By the way, Victor, about Ukraine, I read the last two days excerpts in the New York Post of

Miranda Devine's

new book, The Big Guy.

It's about Joe, the big guy, Mr.

10%,

and his son and their dealings.

And a lot of

these excerpts have to do with Ukraine and, you know, going,

restating the history of the relationship between the Biden Biden shakedown efforts and the Ukrainian, uh, the Ukraine governments.

And uh, boy, oh boy, is it a shabby, um, a shabby place over there?

No, no, but we had her on, uh, Miranda.

Right.

Yeah.

And, you know, no one has done more to expose the skullduggery of the Biden family consortium than she has.

And no one's taken more unfair hit ad hominin attacks than she has from the Biden

apologists.

And she's been very good about this incestuous

collusion and fusion between social media, the FBI, et cetera, to suppress any truth coming out in that critical 2020 election cycle about the true nature of the laptop.

So

she's kind of like

Julie Kelly was a wonderful expert on the fate of the January 6th,

the inordinate punishments and and the asymmetrical treatment they received, the protesters, vis-a-vis the 2020 rioters.

And Miranda has got that same niche or that same cachet of being the expert on all the machinations of the 51 intelligence authorities and what was in the laptop and how they tried to suppress it.

Yeah.

She's terrific.

She's doing wonderful work.

Yeah.

I saw her at a couple of times now, but I was at an event and somebody brought her up to me that she wanted to meet me.

I'm like, this is crazy.

But she's a big, big fan of Victor Davis Hanson and the Victor Davis Hanson show, which she's just, she's a lovely soul and a terrific, terrific journalist.

Hey, Victor,

she writes for the New York Post.

Can we stick in New York to New York a little bit?

And then we're going to get on to politics.

Although this seems like the politics of

COVID.

So

I don't think folks are surprised by any of this.

What I'm about to say, the treachery of bureaucrats and their

rank hypocrisy.

It's what the left is.

This is how the Soviets acted, you know, the vanguard of the proletariat.

They had their DACAs and the rest of the country was starving.

But in New York City, the COVID czar under

Bill de Blasio, so when

COVID struck, his name is Jay Varma, and Stephen Crowder,

who a conservative

podcaster and videographer, et cetera,

got him recorded talking about that he was at these, while we were all, well, you know, New Yorkers had to stay inside, couldn't go to work, et cetera, et cetera, mask,

lose your job unless you get vaccinated, even though it's not a vaccine.

He was

the guru of all that.

but what was he doing at the same time he was going to these drug-fueled sex parties in the basements of banks on wall street these private affairs private in many senses you use the word private and just galling that and by the way this is this happens all the time right in in england

That kind of activity, you all stay in.

We're going to go have our parties anyway.

Help take down,

what's his name, Boris?

I can't remember his name anymore, the former former prime minister there uh but uh anyway i don't think we're shocked by the hypocrisy of the left but any thoughts on this victor

well i mean it's uh

there's so many different weird angles it's right out of petronius's satiricon so this guy was caught in another ambush i guess is crowder sort of doing what james o'keefe used to do huh um that this is the first time i've seen such because but yeah it was

person.

Actually, when it happened, I thought it was O'Keefe, but no.

Yeah.

Well, I mean,

so why he's telling all of us that the lockdowns have to be adamant, he's fulfilling his sick sexual fantasies with willing partners and thinks it's cool enough that he can brag to someone about it.

Ha, ha, ha, what a bunch of dumb people.

They were staying in their homes.

They couldn't see their girlfriends.

They didn't go out to dinner while we were opening up our apartment and having sex.

And then I don't understand this Petronian

desire to

go into a room and take your clothes off and have indiscriminate sex with total strangers in front of everybody.

It's really depraved, and it's got a long history in literature as being depraved.

And it's usually a symptom.

If you read the satiricon, which is the locus classicus of it, of a depraved society suffering from affluence and leisure and disconnected from reality in the sense that these people don't have to get up at four in the morning and go out and shovel weeds or get in a long haul truck or open a 7-Eleven.

And they have too much leisure and too much wherewithal and they indulge these sick fantasies.

And I don't quite get it with these sex parties, like why they do it, why is it going on?

It tends to be the very, very wealthy, elite, sophisticated people, supposedly.

And then the cynicism that you brag on how you fool people.

It reminds me so much.

Remember Neil Ferguson?

And not Neil Ferguson, my colleague at

Distinguished and a Wonderful Colleague at the Hoover Institution.

I'm talking about the

Oxford Associated epidemiologist who was warning everybody, supposedly, that millions were going to die from from COVID unless they had an absolute lockdown.

I mean, a,

I don't know what you would call it, a lockdown of the mother of all lockdowns.

And they did.

And then we found out what was, he was sneaking out of his apartment to see some married woman to have a tryst.

Yeah.

Rules for thee, not for me.

Yeah.

And the same thing with Boris Johnson.

He was partying it up with his friends while he was supposedly under lockdown.

Same thing, not in the sex thing, but same thing with Nancy.

Pelosi was getting her hair done.

When all women who depended on their looks or being presentable at the job couldn't get their hair done except for Nancy, and we had that crazy mayor, the Chicago, Lori, whatever her name would like to put.

And she was telling everybody that she had to break the quarantine that she insisted was unbreakable because of her appearance.

And then we had Gavin at

the French Breakery, of course, and he was also down in L.A.

smoozing with athletes and celebrities, breaking the quarantine.

So it's just, it just, if it didn't happen, you'd have to invent it because anybody that deals with these people knows that they have complete contempt for the public that they hector all the time.

When you add the sex element into it, it's

pretty sick.

Pretty sick.

I mean,

who would ever go up to a stranger or I don't know if it was a female that he was trying to flirt with?

That's usually how they get these people to confess.

It's always to brag.

That's how I think Mr.

Was it Rosenblum confessed that the January 6th was just a joke and that he saw all the

New York Times Pulitzer Prize winner.

Right.

He just said that he saw FBI informants everywhere.

And everybody made it into a psychodrama.

He was with a young woman.

Usually that's, you meet somebody like that, and then you get a drink or two, and then you confess the most intimate details that suggest that you're cunning, dynamic, sexy.

I don't know what it is, but it's

pretty sick.

Yeah, I'm powerful, and power is alluring.

And I guess

we can end up in a

gee.

Hey, honey, let's go to this apartment, and we'll take off all our clothes with people we've never met before.

And then you will have sex with somebody next to me me having sex, and we'll just do this for four or five.

Isn't that fun?

Is that what they think?

It's disgusting.

It really is perverted.

Can't we use the word perverted anymore?

Yes.

Well, we can't use the word normal anymore.

Why should we use perverted, right?

You know, I

shame we can't use that anymore.

I was first introduced to Petronius's satiricon in an advanced Latin class in 1975 by a very left-wing professor who's now deceased.

And he said, I hope this perversion doesn't offend anybody, but everything is in that novel.

Open

group sex, transvestism, transgenderism,

bisexuality, polysexuality, violence,

pedophilia, every sick thing is in it.

And the author is trying to show you what happened to the agrarian idealism of the Republic.

It's gone.

But what Caligula, the movie, displayed, do you think that was

true?

That comes from Suetonius's life of Caligula.

Yeah.

Suetonius was a gossip,

and he wrote a little bit later, I think he wrote under Domitian, Vespasian, but

And that was in the interest of the later emperors to make the Julio-Claudians look perverted, which they were, Nero and Caligula in particular.

So a lot of that was true.

It's corroborated

somewhat by Tacitus.

So, yeah, I think it's probably true.

There was a violent ailment, too.

It was sadomasochism and

stuff.

That was...

Nero, I mean, Tiberius, there's some things in Suetonius that are unspeakable about his minnows and all of the so-called minnows.

Pedophilia seemed to be a big thing in Roman perverts sexuality.

And

it's kind of like

Epstein

and

I guess Diddy, huh?

He seems to be

trumping Epstein.

We see the normalization of this stuff.

The man boy lover crap is,

you know, that's going to have its, it'll have its stripe on that weird.

Those two stories were

those two stories were very interesting because you had the revelations from this COVID czar, and then you had Diddy juxtaposed in the news, and they both had that commonality that they seem to emphasize

group sex, exhibitionism,

anonymous sex,

and

devices, and then this bragging on it in Diddy's case, filming it or letting it freak out, he called it, or freak off or something.

I don't know what it was, but it's again the sign of money and leisure and decadence

and decay.

And like my grandfather, my father used to say,

that's nothing that an old-fashioned depression wouldn't cure.

Viva grandpa, not that I encourage that, but we may be heading there.

We'll certainly head there if a certain someone is elected president.

That was when raisin prices fell from 1440.

That was the final sun-made price of 1982, to $440.

If you had two ton an acre, which was an average production, you'd lost $2,000

and you were going to lose

in your profit.

And you were probably not.

You were probably going to lose your place because if you had 100 acres, you were losing $150,000 per 100 acres.

And

I was complaining, and my father said, well, you're in a depression, and there's nothing that oppression can't cure.

The actual grapes of wrath, right?

Yeah, instead of

getting out there at 6.30, you get out there at 5.30.

Instead of going out and buying new vineyard staples, you go in the barn and find old ones that have been reused by your grandfather.

Instead of

you know trading in your massey 265 when it's blown a i don't know a head gasket or it's not doesn't run you get it fixed that kind of stuff

and you don't go out anywhere you just stay home and you have a garden and you can and all that we did all that stuff in farmers market

I don't know and then you look later it's like that great line from Virgil Aeneas when they're in the middle of battle and goes there will come a time

when even this,

think of the word as etiam

aha, even this will bring delight to you.

Meaning, it's God-awful now.

But if you survive this and you look back, you'll think this was your, to quote Churchill, your finest hour.

Everybody had that experience sometime in their life.

They look back and say, oh my God, when I started out, I had three jobs.

I came home tired.

But man, there was a brief moment when everything was clear and we were really.

Yeah.

we few we happy few we banner brothers you know yeah pure purpose yeah

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Victor, Gavin Newsom is

upset and threatening suits against

Elon Musk under a California law that will allow the

censorship, let's just call it that, of memes, et cetera, social media because it's a threat to democracy.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, free speech,

except we need to protect democracy.

And Musk, I think Musk is thoroughly enjoying his giving the middle finger to the governor of California.

As a Californian.

Yeah, well, I mean, the subtext of that is,

the subtext of Gavin's attack on Elon Musk is, listen, we do not mind when Twitter and Facebook work with the FBI to suppress news of the laptop and they become, or we don't mind when FBI, 11 of them who were working with

Twitter and Facebook then, what, revolve into

employment when they retire.

Like, I think it was, his name was James Baker, not the former Secretary of State.

He was the head counsel for the

Comey.

Yes, from the Comey FBI, and an instrumental player in the steel hoax, promulgating that.

And then suddenly he left his, I guess he was probably making $140 or something.

I guess that's what they make or more.

And he went to work for Twitter.

Remember, chief counsel?

$7 million

a year after he had been involved in the collusion with Twitter.

and the FBI to suppress news of the laptop.

So

that doesn't bother Gavin at all.

What bothers Gavin is that Elon Musk is now a free speech advocate platform, Twitter, and there are things that are on social media that he finds

not helpful to his own transformation.

We're talking about

Kamala Harris's chime-like refutation of

all of her past positions for the next 40 days.

And as I said earlier, everybody knows that come the election, if she wins, she will go right back to her hard leftists and give a sigh of relief that she's free to do so.

But if she loses, she will too in the last

two or three months of her term.

But

we have not given attention to Gavin Newsom's makeover.

After he was dusted off by

Ron DeSantis, remember that long 90-minute debate where he came out with all this can, Kamala Harris, like put down

and it was kind of like the hare and the tortoise.

You know, DeSantis was not as charismatic.

He was just,

his voice is a little different.

But he was just a fact.

He just had all the facts and arguments.

And he just sort ofly just wore Gavin down.

And after 30 minutes, Gavin was just an empty soup.

Uncle.

Yeah, it was like DeSantis was just staccato, you know,

and he couldn't answer.

He was stuttering.

And so he's trying, he understood that he looked like a left-wing

idiot.

And he knows that he's very bitter about Kamala because he even said right at the convention

that we didn't need an open, isn't that what I'm supposed to say?

Right.

So he was thinking that As the leading candidate, they were going to turn to him.

And he was planning to be the nominee.

And now he knows that he'll never be the nominee if she is elected.

So he's secretly hoping that she will not be elected.

But even if she loses and he wants to be the leading contender, he cannot run on a, I will do to America what I did for California.

He's looking at Camela's changes, her metamorphoses, and he thinks, you know what?

She's absolutely right.

As much as I hate hate to say it, she is a border hawk.

She's against homelessness in the street.

And so, what is he doing?

He's down at the LA Cement River Aqueduct Dry thing, picking up trash by himself with a, I don't know, quarter million dollar a year photographer.

He's telling every local jurisdiction, you're going to get cut off unless you deal with the homeless.

This is after he spent $10 billion for nothing.

We're going to be physically responsible.

We're $57 billion

in the hole, and I can't raise income taxes to 16% as you want.

13.3 we told was only going to last two years under Jerry Brown, but we just made that permanent.

It can't go any higher because everybody's leaving.

And reparations?

No, no, no.

I did that to virtue signal.

I didn't.

You guys are taking me serious.

Just stop it.

And then I said to him, if he would sign that reparations or he would promote it, he would be all through.

If he signed some of these other bills about illegal immigration, he would be all through.

And he didn't.

And so that's what he's trying to do is to reposition himself in the center, which begs a question.

Can't we find one honest Bernie Sanders candidate?

Whatever you think about Bernie Sanders, when he ran in 2016, it was like the following.

I am a socialist.

I want to take money away from the successful and I want to give it to the less successful or poor.

I think this is a rigged racist society.

I want to protect the poor by taking from the rich.

I am a redistributionist.

I believe what Obama said, that

I think we've got to, you know, be redistributionists, spread the wealth.

He said it.

And they don't do that, though.

That's what Camilla believes.

She was voted, as I said, more to the left of Bernie than Bernie, than any other senator.

Why doesn't Camilla just say, we need an open border?

We need more constituents.

These are great people.

We don't need to audit them.

That's racist.

Bring them in.

We need to be nicer to Iran.

That's what we've been doing.

We need to tilt toward Hamas.

That's what we've been doing.

We want to give Ukraine everything we can.

That's what we're going to be doing.

Why didn't you just say it?

We want to get rid of health care.

I told you I wanted to start from scratch, abolish the Border Patrol.

I told you.

I told you I wanted to confiscate so-called assault weapons, semi-automatic, anything that you don't have to use a bold action or pump.

It's semi-automatic.

And I said we would be willing to go into your house and check that you did it and gave it up.

I want abortion in the ninth, if the woman wants an abortion and the baby is alive and going out of the birth canal, it happens not very often, four or five thousand times a year, but the baby should be terminated

if the mother wants.

Why doesn't she just run on that?

But why make fun of conservatives and Trump and all this and then just copy him for what, 50 days?

And it's really an insult to the American people.

It's the message is, you people people are stupid.

You know nothing.

I can cackle.

I can cackle my way to victory.

I can talk.

I can do the hand gestures.

I can wink and nod as if I'm 25 flirting with you.

I can do all of this, and you'll fall for it.

I'm a black woman.

I'm a victim.

I didn't grow up in a posh neighborhood in Montreal.

My parents were not two PhDs.

I'm just a little middle-class struggling girl from Oakland.

Never really lived in Berkeley.

You've got to vote for me.

And that's, they just do this, and then they get elected and like Joe Biden.

I'm old Joe Biden from Scranton.

I'm not the crazy people in the 2020 primaries.

I'm not nutty Pete Buttigig.

I'm not nutty Hisparticus.

I'm not Bernie Sanders.

I'm not crazy Elizabeth Warren.

I'm none of those people.

None, none, none, none, none, none.

I am old Joe from Scranton.

You know me.

I was the one that said I didn't want my mom to live in a racial jungle.

I was the one that, you know, that was pretty much a friend with James O.

Eastland and Strong Thurman.

That's what he was trying to hint and nod.

And then he got elected and they said, Joe, we got rid of all your candidates.

We anointed you the candidate.

You, we own you.

We make boss Tweed look like a piker.

You're going to implement the most left-wing agenda.

You're going to get all the attention.

You and Dr.

Jill will fly all over, but you're going to do exactly what we say.

You're going to let in 10 or 12 million people on that border.

That's what we're going to do.

And you're going to spend, you're going to borrow another 4 trillion, first thing out.

Build back better, Inflation Reduction Act, et cetera.

You are going to kiss up and warm and appease Iran.

That's what happened.

Why don't they just say that?

Because they know that nobody wants their agenda.

Gavin is trying to be a complete makeover for a while, like Kamala Harris, to get elected.

When he makes fun of Elon Musk, I don't understand that.

I really don't.

I know that Musk rubs people the wrong way.

I know he posts haphazardly sometimes, but when you just take a deep breath and you say the Tesla is a marvelous creation,

it's not a GM knockoff EV or something.

It's a beautiful car.

It works.

He's the only person that ever broke into the big three automakers as a serious rival.

The SpaceX is better than any other product.

It's kept us competitive.

Better than NASA.

I'm right now talking out in the middle of nowhere in Fresno County through Starlink.

And believe me, my wife and I have tried internet from Verizon.

We've tried local broadband, get your satellite.

None of them work like Starlink.

You hook it upright.

It's wonderful.

He did all of that.

He did all of that.

And why can't you just say he's a Renaissance guy that's eccentric?

Why do you hate him so much?

He's the most gifted guy since Alexander Graham Bell, the Wright brothers, and Thomas Edison.

He is.

It's absolutely true.

He's an authentic American Renaissance genius.

And he's doing more disruption in a positive way than ever.

And they hate him.

Jealousy is a powerful thing.

He could have easily gone to

Elon and said, we want Tesla to stay here.

We want you to build cars in Fremont.

It's important to our economy.

But he drove him out.

They drive everybody out.

And they should have just said, there's no place for you.

You see, we're creating a medieval society.

We've got $9 trillion in market, $10 trillion market capitalization.

So we don't need you.

We're a party of the very wealthy.

That is the state.

We're from La Jolla to Berkeley, 50 miles inland, $2 million a house.

That's who we are.

All the rest of the people, we have enough money to put on welfare.

Now, if there's a middle class still left, we'll drive them out.

So we have the money to subsidize the poor.

So we want all the illegals we can

in California.

We want to drive out everybody else, and we want to be protected species along the coast.

Just say it.

That's what your medieval vision is.

We do not want a bunch of people making a good wage producing stuff.

That's not who we are.

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talk about immigration and Donald Trump.

I just want to say, though, I had listened to you with Sammy, and I had thought I'm going to bring up a topic, but thankfully, you and the great Sammy Wink brought it up already.

And that has to do, had to do with my former colleague and dear friend at National Review, Rich Lowry, who was on Megan Kelly's podcast, mispronounced the word immigrant, migrant, etc.

And it sounded like the quote-unquote N-word.

And it became

Rich was like vilified immediately on social media.

but as you discussed with sammy what became so

so disappointing was rich was supposed to be speaking at the badger institute which is the you know conservative pro-freedom etc

um think tank if you will of wisconsin and the the leadership there the president of there got in touch with rich with rich and canceled them said we don't want you as our speaker and rich you know well why and he went ahead and did it anyway and and you stood up for him i just want to thank you yeah i i we and samic talked about it reminded me of that author or public intellectual who used the word n-i-g-g-a-r-d-l-y

to say stingy in washington dc right yes and they went after him that's an old anglo-saxon germanic word yeah and it reminded me of philip ross the human stain where the character the professor says

who are these people Are they ghost?

And supposedly that destroyed his entire career.

Anthony Hopkins played that character in the movie.

But again, the point of all this is it's ridiculous and everybody knew that.

And so

part of it, you can see, I don't know if Rich said that, but as I said,

for some reason, the prefixes

X and N, the Latin prefixes, emigrate with an E or emigrant with an I,

meaning you're going into someplace or you're leaving someplace, which are very necessary, exact terminology have been replaced as insensitive.

You can't judge people, so you just use migrant.

And the problem with migrant is when you take away

the suffix in Latin, that I becomes short.

So Rich was saying emigrants, and I think what he was trying to say was maybe I should use the word migrants, which everybody else uses.

So he said MIG

because he, for a second, thought he was still saying immigrants.

And he used the short and he stopped and he corrected himself.

And they said that

MIG sounded like the N-I-G.

beginning of the nobody said he said the same the whole word right you're saying that he was beginning to say it he wasn't

and uh they canceled him at indiana State.

And then the Badger Institute, and I'm a board member of the Bradley, and we support causes like the Badger Institute in Wisconsin.

But let me just read what Mike Nichols, who canceled Rich, wrote.

Okay, here's on his website.

Our annual dinner is coming up October 1st, and we'll feature a panel, we'll feature a panel of veteran journalists and think tank leaders talking about left-wing media bias.

Does everybody hear what I just said?

Left-wing media bias and and how conservatives can make sure our ideas and opinions are fairly and factually reported.

Left-wing, that's what his theme is going to be.

Left-wing, the people who went after Rich.

But let me continue.

This is the new lineup, a switch we made because of concern about an interview Rich Lowry, our previously scheduled speaker, took part in on the Megan Kelly show.

Rich has now accused us of canceling him out of cowardice or because of the, in quote environment.

Now, is he going to say that he didn't cancel him?

Let's see what he said.

For the record, we're a fundamentally conservative state-level policy and journalism shop, and our decisions about speakers have nothing to do with big left-right political conflict at the national level.

Stop!

Let me read that again.

Our speakers have nothing to do with big left-right political conflict at the national level or anything anything happening anywhere else.

He just said this is a new lineup, a switch we made.

And he said

we'll feature a panel of veteran journalists and think tank leaders talking about left-wing media bias and how conservatives can make sure our ideas.

Talking about left-wing media

bias is actually exactly what is big left-right political conflict at the national level.

Right.

Isn't it?

He just said that that's what he's going to get rid of, Rich, and he's going to talk about left-wing media bias and how conservatives can make sure of our ideas and opinions are fairly and factually read.

Then he goes down in paragraph four and says, Our decisions about speakers have nothing to do with big left-right political conflict at the national level.

What he just gave his game away.

Then he says, we look closely at the facts and believe we came to the right decision.

No, you don't have to believe you came.

Is it the right decision or not?

We try hard to do what's right and believe we've tried hard to believe what's right.

No, you don't try hard to do what's right.

You do what's right and believe that we have done that.

Now listen to this.

Now can we please get back to talking about government waste and overspending and tax levels and lousy school energy, housing federal.

Okay, Mr.

Nichols, you've just said that you've kicked Rich out and you wanted to bring in a bunch of veteran journalists and think tank leaders to talk about left-wing media bias.

And now you say at the end, can we get back to government waste and overspending and tax levels and lousy schools and energy?

In other words, can't we get away from left-wing media bias?

I have never seen, I swear, I have never seen in my life a more inept,

rambling, self-contradictory, hypocritical jumble of mess since I've listened to the latest Camilla Harris word salad.

This makes her word salad worse.

And this is a director of a conservative institute that conservatives like myself are supporting in their duties on a conservative philanthropic board.

I was shocked.

I really was.

Anybody who knows Rich Lowry,

he's the least, I mean, you can't even imagine him saying the N-word.

He was always disturbed about any language that any national leader said that was intemperate.

Always from the idea, why would he say something like that?

It's going to hurt the cause, et cetera, et cetera.

So I'm just mystified.

And hopefully this is not going to stop unless people in Indiana State University and the Badger Institute reverse because the next speaker will cancel and the next speaker and the next speaker and all they'll remember was he was canceled, not what he said or didn't say.

And they've got to stop it.

Everybody according to their station should stop it.

And this person, I don't like to call for dismissals of people for one mistake because apparently the Badger Institute does very good work.

I've read

their applications.

I know about them.

I think they do good work.

But that Mr.

Nichols, the leader, should immediately apologize and say

he was mistaken.

And if he wants to talk about left-wing media bias, there's no better way to talk about left-wing media bias than the demonization in the media of Rich Lau.

Yeah.

And he said that.

I didn't say it.

He said left-wing media bias and how conservatives can make sure our ideas and opinions are fairly and factually reported.

If you want conservatives to be fairly reported, then what you do not do is join a left-wing lynch mob to silence and cancel a very well-known and highly respected conservative speaker.

You don't do that, Mr.

Nichols.

you don't so

i i i really

i appreciate everything you said because it's true and you know when rich came to national review 30 plus years ago do you know you know who his first boss was was jack fowler i didn't know i didn't know that oh yeah i i mentioned it sammy he called me up on 9-11 and offered me a chance to write a few columns and since then i've had my differences as you know with national Review and the Pavlovian anti-Trump and the monotony of Trump is, you know, the monkey in the helicopter kind of imagery that they've used.

And I've been attacked by at least five of them, contrary to their rules at National Review writers.

But I have never, ever, ever had a problem with Rich.

And I don't mean that as a negative, I mean as a negative compliment.

I'm just telling you that every time we disagreed on whether to endorse Trump or anything, he was always reasonable, logic, and I respected the difference of opinion we had.

And we agreed more than we disagreed.

And he's always been helpful and

professional.

This is really disturbing.

Yeah, no, it is.

And coming from the right, you know, we know again from the left, but when groups like this do this to its own, it's

it's really

depressing, maddening.

Hey, Victor, we thank you for all that.

We've got to get some time in here to talk about immigration and Donald Trump and some polls in sanctuary cities.

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So, Victor, a couple of things.

Maybe we could talk a little bit quickly about

some recent polling.

And then

Donald Trump yesterday, again, we're talking on the 22nd.

So this would be his rally on Saturday, the 21st, where he's talking about coming after sanctuary cities.

And if we have time, Victor, I'd really like to get in your thoughts about this

utter madness of us, America,

this administration, proactively, I hate that word, but too bad, flying in illegals, as opposed to them, you know, coming over the border and trying to cross the Rio Grande and survive through the desert, et cetera.

No, they're coming in freaking airplanes.

But let's start off with the polling.

A couple of things here, Victor.

On the union front, and you've talked about this

with Sammy, of course, the Teamsters are about 58%

pro-Trump.

Of course, the

National Union didn't support it.

By the way, it's not 58-42.

Kamala's numbers are in the mid-30s, I think.

So there's a number of undecided there.

But Trump's very strong support with that union.

And then

a UAW, NIDA Auto Workers poll, shows 65 to 70% of their workers support Donald Trump and the Stingfitters, 70%.

And I think that's a local STEAM fitter.

So

I'm kind of not surprised, but those are very impressive numbers.

And then the last poll to bring up.

This

came out today, or yesterday, I should say, on the Daily Mail.

Black voters voters in critical swing state reveal their biggest fears about President Harris, et cetera, et cetera.

But anyway,

the new poll shows 25% of black men supporting Donald Trump.

All of that,

one big basket of polling.

Any thoughts, Victor?

Well, CBS came out a few hours ago

claiming that she's now five points ahead and she's surging.

And I just don't believe that.

I think that's that's an October, late September, October surprise because I remember what they did.

Actually,

everybody talks about 2016,

they were off so badly.

That's because Donald Trump won the Electoral College.

But if you actually look at where they said Donald Trump would end up in 2020, they weren't off two or three or four points as they were.

They had been off 17 points in Wisconsin.

They were off on an average of six points.

So when I saw that CBS poll today,

I think it's just a momentum-driven

reinterpreting the data, trying to help her gain.

And why do I say that?

For the reasons you just pointed out.

Black voters, if it's true, are polling a record, at least black males, a record level of support.

Anecdotally, as we said earlier, they can't find anybody in Las Vegas in a restaurant who wants to vote for her.

The Teamsters finds out that this traditionally

left-leaning union, 60 plus percent want to vote or are going to vote for Donald Trump.

And then the leadership basically doesn't endorse Donald Trump, even though they're basically saying our members overwhelmingly support Donald Trump, but we're not going to do it.

We know that if it was 60-40 or 50-50, they would have endorsed Harris.

And we're supposed to think this is a great thing because they're usually left-wing and now they're not so left-wing.

But my point is this, that all of these indicators around us, as was true in 2020, as was true.

In 2016, I wrote a column saying I thought Donald Trump was going to win.

Because I looked at certain polls that were very strange in places like Pennsylvania.

They should have been, according to the national margin, sheesh.

They were actually at the the end, they were not that far off.

And then I just noticed that every single person that I talked to who was voting for Donald Trump in 2016 in the general election was not telling you that, or they were trying to fool you that they weren't.

And 2016, I just didn't believe he was down five to six points nationally, and it was going to be the blowout everybody promised.

And it was.

45,000 votes, and he would have won one way or the other.

Okay.

So now we're told it's the same thing.

And I just don't think they learn.

I think they really do believe, especially

as the

race tightens

and

it doesn't look all that good as you get into October.

What these left-wing pollsters do is they try to gin up enthusiasm by exaggerating the level of support beyond what their data shows.

And then when it's all over and they're repudiated, they go back and say, well, in July and June, we were right.

We said it was close then.

And

they would rather lose their reputations for accuracy than to,

I think, honestly show how close the race is and then therefore help Donald Trump.

So this is, I think these polls are a way of ginning up support for Trump, and they're belied by the things you're talking about.

Anecdotally, other polls have particular demographics.

the economy is the most important issue.

Trump, even after his supposed erosion on that issue, still is over 10 points ahead in competency on that.

I may be mistaken, but

everybody should remember that in the 2022 election,

Donald Trump's party was supposed to make sizable gains.

And then in the last four weeks, suddenly we heard that the Dobbs decision, that was their surprise, remember that, Jack, was leaked out illegally.

And then we heard that he was draining almost half of the strategic petroleum reserve to lower gas by about 40 cents a gallon right before the midterm.

And then we heard he was going to forgive 1 trillion of the trillion point seven student debt, illegally so.

And that red wave turned into a ripple.

But the point I'm saying is they were doing things right before the election to affect it.

And that's what they're doing now.

As sure as I breathe air, they will start issuing polls that show her pulling ahead.

As soon as we know are alive, they will start, they've already done it, cut the Fed interest rates.

You're telling me that right

40 days before election, they didn't have any data for January, February, March, April, May, June, July, August that would suggest that they needed to cut the interest rates by half a point.

And you're also telling me that the economy will be in dire straits if they don't cut the interest rate for 40 more days?

I don't believe that.

And I think there's going to be more and more and more and more.

I think they knew about RFK's supposed extramarital extra

tryst earlier, and they have stuff on him, and they're going to release, release, release.

And

just get ready for it.

They're going to do stuff in October you're not going to believe.

And I think it's all the way of

you're going to get a poll like we did in 2020 that says that Donald Trump is 17 points behind in Wisconsin, which he lost by what, one point?

Right.

Yeah.

And they don't, for them, it's a religious cause.

It really is.

Any means necessary are justified for the exalted aim of what

David Flouf, the advisor to Kamala Harris, says was to do.

He said that a long time ago, but he still believes it.

We have to destroy Donald Trump and we have to destroy all of the supporters.

Or Rick Wilson, that nut and said, we have to put a bullet in Donald Trump, put a bullet in him.

And Dan Goldman just last year said, we have to eliminate him, eliminate him.

And Joe Biden told donors this year, we've got to put him in our bullseye.

That's how they feel about him.

And they will do anything.

And one of them is they will misinterpret polls.

I'm not saying that he's ahead, but I'm telling you, he's not five points behind the CBS.

And when you start to see, as you just reported, that this is an all-time level of poll support for black males, the same as true of Hispanics, that

he will exceed the level that George W.

Bush got in 2004, which was absolutely critical in a close race to defeating John Kerry.

Trump is

nine points ahead with Hispanic voters right now than he was per the 2020 exit polls.

I will stand by what I said.

I have yet to meet in rural Fresno County a Hispanic male over the age of 40 who is going to vote for Harris.

Right.

I was in two supermarkets yesterday.

We had a party celebrating the birthday of me and Bruce Thornton, a colleague, at our house.

It was very nice, but I had to keep going in because I kept forgetting stuff, right?

for the party.

And every time I went there, somebody would come up to me, maybe four or five people each time.

And all but one woman and her daughter were Hispanic, Mexican.

I don't like the word Hispanic.

They're Mexican-American.

Yeah.

And they said the same thing.

Just wanted to tell you, does he have a chance?

Does he have a chance?

We're voting for him.

I was at Home Depot.

We're voting for him.

And same thing.

And so that's anecdotal.

I know that, but I never heard that in 2016 or 20.

So what I'm getting at is I think the left is paranoid at their internal polling of these demographics.

And that's why she came out today and said she will agree to an October 23rd debate.

Right.

She needs it.

She didn't need it.

She wouldn't ask for it.

And that's why she knows those interviews are disastrous and she bled and she lost her.

You're getting so much misinformation.

I kind of, I mean, I know that Nate Silver wasn't as good in 2020 as he was in 2016,

but I know he's a man of the left, and I know he doesn't, he detests Donald Trump, and he wants Donald Trump to lose, but he is a professional.

And when I read this silver bullet, is that what it is?

Yep.

Bulletin or whatever it is,

it's pretty clear he thinks the race is really, really

deadlocked.

And it will be a question of voter turnout.

And I would add voter integrity.

Everybody's got to vote.

And then you read other things that I just read today that the, did you see that?

The

mail-in ballot in Pennsylvania so far as Republicans are out have requested more mail-in ballots than Democrat.

Yeah.

That would be very hard to believe, but it's true, apparently.

What's his name?

Who's the senator?

Fetterman

said, right?

Is it Fetterman?

I can't remember anymore.

I have the memory problems.

You know, he's warning them.

Trump very well may win this state.

He probably is a better.

I think after his stroke,

I'm not a doctor, but

all of his

critical blinders or whatever they are are removed.

Yeah.

And he just describes the world as he sees it, and especially in the case of Israel.

Israel, right.

And he doesn't care.

And he's very, and he's,

it's farmable.

You know,

Donald Trump, another thing, I think, in Trump's favor, by the way, Victor, of course, you, I think you mentioned with Sammy his appearance on Gutfeld.

I mean, he was just totally, he was funny.

He was authentic.

And

there's no way Kamala Harris can even come close to that.

But here he is yesterday in Wilmington, North Carolina,

out in the open.

Okay, there's some shields up now, but I don't know.

I think if I had been shot at and then threatened another time, I'd be hunkering down in my basement like Joe Biden does without being shot at.

But he's out there on the state, 10,000 people.

And

I think that's call it machismo.

We'll just call it, I don't know, call it what you want, but that's pretty impressive, I think, in the eyes of voters.

But I don't know why he was, I guess, why he had that huge

crowd in Long Island?

Oh, yeah.

I guess the point was either A, to raise money in rich New York, or B, to help down ballot congressional candidates in New York, or C, to show Camilla Harris that in her backyard he has support.

I don't know.

I don't think he's going to win New York.

I can tell you that.

I think he's going to get close, but he's not going to win it.

Well, that's the island where he was is

traditionally Republican.

It could help Pennsylvania because Pennsylvania is not too far away.

And if you watch that rally and you see blue-collar people going fanatically to Trump in New York, then somebody in Pennsylvania can say, that's me.

Yeah.

And they're right.

Well, I would, I'd like to think some folks in Pennsylvania inner cities or big cities, however you want to call them, will be moved.

And I think they have been moved, and maybe this will continue to move them, given what Trump said yesterday at the rally.

Today, I'm announcing a new plan to end all sanctuary cities in North Carolina and all across our country.

The Republican presidential nominee totaled crowd 10,000.

I will ask Congress to pass a law outlawing sanctuary cities nationwide, and we will bring down the full weight of the federal government on any jurisdiction that refuses to cooperate with U.S.

immigration and customs enforcement and U.S.

customs and border patrol.

He added, you know,

I have to believe the black men who we just talked about and

Hispanic, Mexican-American, how we, you know, varies, Puerto Rican, et cetera, who are living in these cities know that they're the victims of this insanity at our used to be called borders and will find maybe

something to applaud Trump for this promise on sanctuary cities.

Victor, your thoughts.

Well, you know,

why would a record number of African-American males, not a majority, but a record number of a minority of African-American males and maybe half of Mexican-American or Latino and Hispanic voters, consider defying all of the familial friendship pressures, national pressures, state pressures,

100 years of tradition, at least since the 1950s maybe,

70 years,

75 years of tradition.

Why would they do that?

And the answer is they do believe, correctly so, that if she's re-elected, she will revert right back to the policies that they have witnessed and suffered from the last three and a half years.

And they think there'll be another 10 million people come across the border.

Trump thinks there was 20.

I don't know if there's half the difference, 15 million, but we're letting in 10 San Francisco's and we have no idea who they are, where they are, what they're doing here.

We don't know if we have, we don't have any money for health, education, welfare, legal policing, nothing, housing.

And that'll happen.

She knows, everybody knows that.

They know what the price is.

I just, to buy stuff for this party, I went in there and I could not believe it.

The price,

it just keeps going up.

It doesn't go down.

They say we have inflation going under control.

What that means is it went up 30% on Key Staple.

I got a little piece of Gouda cheese.

It was $10.

I could eat the thing in five seconds.

And it was, maybe it was $11.

But my point is that

it's just outrageous.

Kettled potato chips, not the big jumbo, but the tiny little medium-sized $4.39.

It's just, and they know that.

Everybody knows that.

That's what you're going to get.

You're going to get more pie-in-the-sky failed green projects, infrastructures.

You're going to get more billions of dollars paid for eight chargers

from the likes of Pete Buttigieg.

Think of who will be in the Harris administration.

Be every

apparatus on the left you can think of.

Think of the judicial appointments that you're going to get.

Think of all these federal appointments you're going to get.

It's just going to be one insulin.

If you were Israel, I don't know what I'd do if she's elected.

She despised.

Trump was right about that.

He really was.

And so there are people who are worried and they're going to vote accordingly, but I don't know if they're going to be a majority.

I think they are the majority, but I'm not,

you know, I can't say that for sure.

But I just think things have been so bad that people normally wouldn't

wouldn't be so worried and now they're terrified

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Victor, last question.

I just don't get it.

I don't

glad I don't get it.

But we are flying in illegals into this country.

They're not necessarily, these are people who are not crossing the border, not risking their lives, and I don't commend them for this, but trying to get across the Rio Grande or...

or

trying to get through the deserts.

But we're flying them in intentionally.

This is,

I don't get it.

It's insanity.

Well, explain it, your thoughts, my friend.

I don't know either.

I say that every once in a while I get a delayed flight and I get into the Fresno airport

after or at midnight and it's the busiest time of the day.

I don't understand why every flight that connects Fresno non-stop to Mexico has to take place in the wee hours.

I have no idea.

But I can tell you you there is no visible passport control in Fresno.

Maybe they have to clear it when they leave.

And I've been told that a lot of people are coming in who are illegal.

And when you talk to people at the airport, they will say it's incredible that all of a sudden at two or three in the morning, everything is packed.

All the Starbucks are reopened.

It's much more crowded.

And the people who are coming in are in dire poverty.

I've seen the flights arrive.

And they're not from Mexico City.

They're from Michokan, they're from Guanajato, they're from southern Mexico, Oaxaca.

They're places that like direct flights from Morelia, Mexico or Salayo, Mexico.

It's weird.

It's almost as if

we are having a facility to the poorest regions of Mexico so people can come by the hundreds into the United States.

And I'm sure that Fresno is representative of a lot of places where suddenly the last five or six years we have inaugurated direct flights from regional cities in Mexico.

I mean, you go to the Fresno Air Terminal, Jack.

You cannot fly to San Luis Obispo.

You cannot fly to Fresno.

You cannot fly to San Jose.

You just can't do it.

You cannot fly to Reno, Nevada.

A lot of people would like to go to these places.

You cannot do it.

You can fly to Morelio, Mexico.

You can fly to Salejo, Mexico.

You can fly to Guanajato, Mexico, direct.

So something is going on, and I don't know what it is, but

we all know that

there is no border.

There's no passport control.

There's nothing.

And

anybody who talks about a nation that's been on suicide.

Yeah.

What would be the symptoms of civilizational suicide?

I can tell you, no borders, complete

influxes of immigrants of who you don't know who they are, where they are, why they're here, no health background, no criminal background, a

glorification and deification,

a romantic attraction toward

abortion on demand without any restrictions whatsoever, coupled with a 1.6 fertility rate.

And we call, and then you would call it reproduction rights rather than

deproductive,

whatever that's what it is it's a glorification of deproductiveness

and everything about it's a it's you look at europe and it's just a suicide impulse we hate this country we hate hate it never makes sense it never makes sense camela harris said something very important in that camel she said

I don't know which of the two interviews, she goes, we love our country.

It's wonderful.

It's great.

She's never said that.

She's only saying that now.

Anything that she said would not suggest she's really fond of it.

That's what is so fascinating about this left-wing impulse.

All these people from the Middle East, from Gaza, from the West Bank, from Syria, from Lebanon, from Jordan, from Egypt, they come over here to be students.

And then they get here, and they cannot say one word positive about the United States.

They can demonstrate, they can charge the president's office, they can default cemeteries, they can spray paint statues that's not their country.

And the same thing about people coming in from Mexico and then going to a soccer match and cheering the Mexican national team or

getting into the La Raza Chauvinism.

I don't understand it.

I really do not understand it.

You know what I mean?

It would be like somebody fleeing Hungary in 1956 from the communist

revolution and then cheering on Hungarian communists.

It doesn't make any sense.

And the left doesn't make any sense.

They cannot explain

why if this is such a racist,

exploitive, pernicious country and always was and always will be, then why so many people want to come here.

They cannot explain that.

AOC can't, the squad can't.

Elizabeth Warren can't, Nancy Poole.

Just explain that to us.

And they never do.

As bad as she is,

her running mate here, Walls, has got quite a reputation for being a lover of red China, going there a lot, and actually

distributing copies of Mao's Little Red book.

Yeah, he did.

He did.

It's warped.

Think, everybody, what he did.

When we had, remember the communications director of the Obama administration, Anita Dunn, who said to a, I think it was a group of high school students that her hero was Mao Zedong.

And now

she reappeared, of course, and worked for Biden now.

She was got ambushed by the Biden removal coup.

And then I think she's now, as they all do, they're like cats that fall off a ladder and they always land on their feet.

She's now working for the new regime, Harris.

But she took a hit for that.

But

Mao is not just the author of the red book,

little red book, he is the greatest mass murderer of humanity in history.

The Black Book of Communism showed that he's responsible for the deliberate extinction of 70 million people.

He makes Stalin and Hitler and Pol Pot

and Tamerlane and Tilde Han.

and Genghis Khan, he makes them look like pikers.

And how anybody could glorify that monster and then become the president vice president of the united states is beyond thinking he's never renounced that he's never said i did go to china 30 years and there was part of me that was naive at that time or i was just trying to to

create good relations or i misspoke about mao i i i didn't know really what i was talking he never says that

He's a very scary guy.

He really is.

Oh, he, yeah.

You know, he let Minneapolis burn and his wife said she opened the window so she could get the smell of burning tires and then she went the other day and gave that speech where she waved her hand let's go for turn the page or whatever it was crazy

vote america my gosh i don't know i'm really worried about the country i don't want to end on a sour note but everybody everybody according to their station has to do what they can to stop the madness and suicide.

I'm not ready at 71 to commit collective suicide.

That's what we'll do

if they take over in the fall.

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