Biden's Latest Israel Proposal and a second Trump Assassination Attempt
On this episode, Jack Fowler and Victor Davis Hanson delve into the recent assassination attempts on Donald Trump, the Biden administration's controversial proposal for Israel to cede land to Hezbollah, and the integrity of the Supreme Court amidst internal leaks. They discuss the broader implications of these events on national security, media bias, and political rhetoric.
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Hello, ladies.
Hello, gentlemen.
This is the Victor Davis-Hanson Show.
I'm Jack Fowler, the host.
You're here to get some wisdom from the star and namesake.
That is Victor Davis-Hanson, who is the Martin N.
Ely Anderson Senior Fellow at the Hoover Institution and the Wayna Marsha Busky Distinguished Fellow in History at Hillsdale College.
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Go to victorhanson.com and check it out.
I'll tell you why later in the podcast that you should be doing that.
We are recording on the afternoon, East Coast anyway, here, in the afternoon of Monday the 16th, barely 24 hours after the second assassination attempt in recent weeks on Donald Trump.
I think this particular episode will be up on Wednesday the 18th.
I hope so.
The sooner we get Victor's wisdom out there, the better.
I know Victor is going to talk about this at some length.
And he's written
a post on X
that came out yesterday.
But we'll get Victor's thoughts on this,
on the Biden administration wanting Israel to give land to Hezbollah.
Supreme Court leak that maybe has the fingerprints of Supreme Court justices on it, and maybe some more when we come back from these important messages.
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We're back with the Victor Davis Hanson Show.
Victor, you and I were recording yesterday.
Again, we're talking now, you and I, in real time on Monday.
Yesterday, we just finished our recording episode and hung up our microphones.
And then once again, calamity nearly visited.
Well, it was calamity.
calamity.
It was terrible.
It would have been worse had the president been killed, former president, hopefully a future president.
So, Victor, we have a second assassination attempt on Donald Trump.
Your thoughts, my friend.
Well, there's a lot.
I mean, we don't know a lot about the first assassination attempt.
We don't know anything about this Crooks guy.
We don't know why his body was cremated almost immediately.
The crime scene pretty much was tampered with.
We don't know why his parents are hiring high-priced lawyers.
We don't know why he had encrypted emails.
We don't know why the former secret savers director didn't even go there.
We didn't know why
there was no drone.
We discussed all that.
And this is the same thing, only this is a little weirder.
This guy said he had a very, I think, $3,000 a month.
He had no real assets.
So how does he go all the way to Tony Palm Beach from Hawaii, fly there?
That's pretty expensive.
And where does he stay?
And why does his cell phone show that he had a 12-hour
sojourn at the crime scene?
Was he, and what was all this stuff?
Nobody's telling us what these scale
ceramic plates were.
Was he trying to create a little fort where he was going to hide behind them and shoot the president?
And, you know, he was only one hole.
They originally said three.
And he was only, I don't know,
300 to 500 yards away from the president of the United States after a first assassination attempt.
And after they'd been grilled, and after we'd been told that the report that's going to come out about Crooks, the first assassin, would-be assassin, is going to be damning to the secret.
Something is wrong.
And
I, you know,
I don't know whether it's lackadaisicalness because they're not really into protecting Trump or the hierarchy says, yeah, I'm not going to protect him.
And I say that.
Some of you say, Victor, how could you say that?
I can say that because
in April of this year, Benny Thompson, who was the co-chair of the January 6th Committee, introduced the takeaway from Trump Secret Service Bill.
Remember that, Jack?
Right, yes.
He had nine Democrats co-sponsor, and they were going to take away, and they knew that he'd been getting death threats.
So that's not crazy.
You know, I had been, I gave a talk Saturday night in
Pasarobles, California to a great group of cattlemen.
I mentioned that in earlier, and somebody asked me about the assassination attempt of Crooks, and I said, Saturday night, it's going to happen again, because once you
Well,
I won't even explain what I wrote, Jack.
I'll just read you very briefly what I wrote exactly two months ago on August 14th.
I think it came out on August 15th of 2024.
That is just about 60 days ago.
I said, if Donald Trump all summer has been compared by his enemies to Hitler, remember
the New Republic had a picture of him with a Hitler mustache cover, by his enemies to Hitler and his murderous Third Reich, and if a 20-year-old would-be assassin and murderer with ease took up a sniper's position to kill Trump without a notified Secret Service or other law enforcement attempting to abort
the shooter's attempted assassination, what signal does that send to other would-be assassins for the next 80 days of the 2024 campaign?
Is the message that if a 20-year-old amateur sniper can brazenly and visibly for nearly an hour breach all Secret Service security perimeters, to shoot eight times at the president, hit him in the ear, kill one innocent bystander, and wound two others, then almost any future, more experienced, serious shooter could match or exceed the ability of that disturbed amateur to get close enough to Trump to fire more than eight shots at his head.
And that shooting, Donald Trump, and my point isn't that it would show that shooting Donald Trump in many leftist quarters would subsequently earn the on-hinge killer eternal fame, applause, and immortality.
And if there are such anticipated rewards and perceived opportunities, then we may well see more attempts on candidates Trump's life.
That's exactly what we did see.
And
this has been all over the internet, but remember the Democratic House minority leader, Hichem Jeffries, said, extreme MAGA Republicans are the party of a national abortion ban.
That's a lie.
And Trump's project 2025, Trump's project has nothing to do with it.
We must stop them.
He wrote that, Jack, after the news of the assassination attempt.
Right.
And
that
very day, yesterday,
We all remember Alexander Binman, right?
Well, his brother, as you and I have talked, is running for a congressional seat in Virginia.
But his wife,
Alexander, is unhinged because she posted almost immediately, no ears were harmed.
Carry on with your Sunday afternoon.
So I guess she's saying, oh, another weekend, tried to kill Trump, no big deal.
And then she bragged that she wouldn't take it down.
And then she said that Trump earned it.
As all these people on the left are saying now because of the cat story or something.
And then she finally was forced to take it down.
The worst was, was MSNBC, though, the same day, this Reverend Jackie Lewis, she's a complete idiot,
a ranning lunatic.
She was on there with Jonathan Capart talking about the usual
BLM topos that there's all these white people and Jews that are not doing the right thing.
And so she said, let's not pretend.
that Donald Trump isn't exactly like Mussolini, exactly like Hitler.
If I asked Dr.
Jacqui Lewis to tell me a little bit about Mussolini's life and what he did and who the Browns, she couldn't do it.
Let's not pretend that Donald Trump isn't exactly like Mussolini, exactly like Hitler.
You nice Christians, you kind, loving Jewish people, we're not these people, we're not these people, and we're not going to get what we want
what we want, if we elect this fascist authoritarian weasel.
So if you have three
leftist Democrats in the news, and one of them is lying that Trump is trying to get a national abortion ban,
or he's lying that he's the author or connected with 2025 project,
or another person is kind of laughing off that he wasn't killed, get on with your day, it's no big thing, or you have another person on MSNBC, and this is all the same day, saying he's Hitler, he's Mussolini, and he's an authoritarian weasel, then you can see why this guy who, this crazy
nut, this Wesley Root.
So you can see that Ryan Wesley Ruth
with a Biden-Harris sticker and he was known to have dozens of guns on an arrest record.
He had a machine gun 20 years ago.
You can see in his mind that if he were to, just what I predicted, if he was going to shoot Trump, there's going to be a lot of people who would be for that.
And that's exactly what people are saying.
They're being indifferent to it.
It took Biden and Harris about five tweets to get any empathy at all.
And
it's,
you know, think about the blood.
Joe Biden and Camilla Harris have two things in common in their debates.
They both repeated that libel bloodbath when he was talking about the autoidmancy.
Right.
And they both brought up Charlottesville.
Neither one of finished the paragraph where Trump said, you know, there's good people on both sides.
And I'm not talking about the neo-Nazis and the white nationals because they should be condemned totally.
No, they just kind of spur things up, spur things up, stir things up.
And
so if you're going to call him every day, Hitler, fascist, bloodbath, weasel, dictator, got to be stopped.
What do you think is going to happen?
And if the Secret Service cannot protect him, and that is a generally,
I don't know, popular idea among the public, then you've got two ingredients that are going to ensure this is going to happen again and again.
It really is.
And it, you know,
right after that,
I wrote that.
And then just two.
about three months ago before, you know, right after the
assassination.
The butler, the butler.
Yes.
Yes, yes.
And just to keep everybody, does everybody remember that clown who wore a mask of Obama?
He was a rodeo clown.
He didn't threaten anybody.
He was just trying to, you know, make fun of people and get the crowd laughing and distract the bulls.
So he put on Obama.
They permanently banned him from the Missouri State fair.
The state did.
That, you know, it was a bull riding contest, and he was punished by completely being banned.
Yeah.
And just think of this.
Here's the type of people who are weighing in on Trump in the last couple of years.
Robert De Niro has said he would like to slug his face on numerous occasions.
Kathy Griffith held up his decapitated head.
Marilyn Manson said he should be decapitated.
That Shakespeare in the park in New York, remember they had that Caesarean play, Julius Caesar, where he was stabbed?
Mickey Rourke said he'd like to club him.
Snoop Dogg said he'd like to shoot him.
The late Anthony Bourdain, the celebrity host, said he'd like to poison him.
George Lopez said he'd like a
bounty on him.
That Pearl Gem said he'd like to have
carrion to eat his corpse.
Larry Whitmore said he should be suffocated.
Madonna said, of course, we remember blowing him up.
I wish she had dreams.
She said, I have dreams of blowing the White House up.
Moby said the same thing.
Rosie O'Donnell said, let's throw him over a cliff.
Johnny Depp, remember he was talking about killing him?
So did Big Sean, that rapper?
Reid Hoffman.
Remember Reid Hoffman got in trouble recently?
He said, I wish I'd made him an actual martyr.
And this is the same people who went after Sarah Palin for just putting those little bullseyes on a map, that these were targeted races.
And
what did Joe Biden say?
He said, bullseye.
He said, we got to put a bullseye on him.
And you keep doing it.
You keep doing it.
You keep doing it.
And, you know, Biden was the one that said, if we were in high school, I'd take him behind the gym and beat the hell out of him.
And then later he said, the press always asked me, do I wish I was debating him?
No, I wish we were in high school.
I could take him behind the gym.
That's what I would.
He keeps saying that.
I like John McCharther, but he said in an interview with Glenn Lowry that
somebody killing Trump would would solve a lot of problems.
And when the New Republic was asked about why they would print a cover with Donald Trump with a fewer mustache, they said, today,
we at the New Republic think we can spend this election year in one of two ways.
We can spend it debating whether Donald Trump meets the nine or 17 points that define fascism, or we can spend it saying he's damn close enough and we better fight.
Mr.
Editor at New Republic, you know what fascists do?
I can tell you what they do.
They weaponize the intelligence
and the investigative and the police authorities of the state to go after their enemies.
In other words, they get the hierarchy of the CIA,
like a John Brennan who lied under oath twice to cook up with the FBI, James Comey, who pled amnesia 245 times under oath before the House Intelligence Committee to buy in and
pay, as Comey did, Christopher Steele, a foreign national who's barred by statute from participating in an election, to cook up a dossier to warp an election.
And when that didn't work, they get the campaign on the left.
And we remember Anthony Blinken, he calls up the
former interim CIA Mike Morrow.
They get the same usual suspects.
They get old Leon Panetta.
They get the perjurer, John Brennan, they get the perjurer James Clapper, and they get 51 so-called authorities to lie.
And they still, many of them with government contracts.
That's what fascists do.
I'm not calling them fascists.
I said, if you really want to know what a fascist is, New Republic, you take the arms of government and you weaponize them.
You try to get your opponent off the ballot in 16 states.
You sick a federal prosecutor to go after somebody for the same crimes a sitting left-wing person is exempt from.
You try to raid his home.
You try to rearrange the evidence to make him look bad.
You have a SWAT team.
You go into his wife's private closet and go through her underwear door to humiliate her.
You get a local incompetent in Georgia to criminalize a phone call.
You have them meet with you.
You coordinate these
lawfare things by having your third top lawyer in the DOJ go to work for a incompetent municipal
prosecutor called Alvin Bragg.
You get one of your big donors to pay millions of dollars to have a civil suit with a lunatic called Eugene Carroll.
That's what you do.
You get Letita James, you get her coordinator.
That's what they're doing.
And for us to get the lectures by the New Republic and
You know, Joy Reid every night on TV, I mean, she's the one that said,
let them know, let everybody, let me know who I go to vote for to keep Hitler out of the White House.
Then Rachel Maddow, I remember all summer, she was saying that she was studying history to understand Hitler, and that would therefore allow her to
understand Trump.
So you keep doing that.
You keep doing that.
You keep doing that.
You keep doing that.
And they know what they're doing.
because they project.
As soon as this happens, then they go, well, J.D.
Vance said they were eating cats.
Right.
That caused it.
Well, no, it didn't.
It didn't.
And
it's going to continue.
It's going to continue to either one of two things happen.
The president of the United States,
and I don't think he's capable of it, or the vice president of the, and she is definitely not capable of it, say, let us not compare one another to mass murders in history.
Adolf Hitler created the final solution that liquidated 6 million and started a war that killed 70 million.
And neither me nor my opponent has anything to do
with that or resembles that to one.
It's impossible that any person who was sane could compare either me or him to that.
Until that happens, it's going to continue, this attempts on Trump's life.
And then the other half of the equation, somebody in the Secret Service, somebody, I don't know who's running it now.
I guess they're short a thousand employees.
Somebody's going to say, if I were you, I would not even think of shooting at either of the major candidates or the president or the vice president, because we are going to be so proactive, it will not, you won't know what hit you.
Go ahead and say that, just like Chuck Sumer said.
And until you do that, you're going to have more of these crazy guys like Root.
Well, Victor, there's some more things to get your opinion on related to what happened yesterday.
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As a charismatic leader, he mobilizes the people.
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And that's why they're trying to get rid of him.
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writers of Vindicating Trump is our good friend Bruce schooley uh who's a one bruce is a wonderful guy glad to hear that i didn't know that i'm glad to hear he's i love bruce and uh and his wife valerie they've been friends for for years so uh
um victor a little disconcerting to me i know president trump praised the secret service praised the uh local sheriff's office but on the you you must have seen the
the ensuing press conference after the guy was arrested that the sheriff was, you know,
I guess accurately describing what happened and why it happened.
And that because he was a former president and not the current president, he essentially, he didn't use these words, but that's how it came up.
It seemed like he deserved less protection.
And
next time, I guess we'll have, if he's not.
I could not believe that.
I heard that press conference.
Yeah.
All he was saying to any potential killer was
nothing's changed.
It's not going to change.
He's not the president candidate, apparently.
So until we change our policy, he's not going to get the type of protection that
he should have or he can't have or whatever.
But whatever the particular agenda or rationale this sheriff was saying, he made it clear that Donald Trump right now is not being protected adequately and probably won't be because he's not the president or the vice president.
Does everybody see this disconnect?
There is a presidential race right now where one candidate, Camilla Harris, is getting massive Secret Service protection, not because she's been threatened a lot, but because she is the sitting vice president.
Her opponent is getting very inadequate.
Secret Service protection, at least as
illustrated by two assassination attempts on him within two months.
And he gets not anything commiserate because he's just a candidate, supposedly.
Although he's not just a candidate, he's also an ex-president.
So maybe you could say that if you're an ex-president, you have A secret service.
And then if you're an active, one of two final
finalist presidential candidates, you get B, more additional secret service, and A plus B should be equal to Camela as a candidate and Camela as vice president, but that's not happening.
And they don't even think that we have one candidate who is the constant butt of attacks.
When I was thinking of bullseye with Biden, I remember what that was about now.
It was he made a call to donors, Jack, and he said, it's time to put Trump in the bullseye.
That's what he said.
And
that's besides take him behind the gym and beat him up
and et cetera, et cetera.
It never stops.
It never stops.
And then they're so self-righteous, these people on the left.
As soon as you call them out on it, they play wounded fawn victim.
Well, you've created a climate of hate because you said they strangled decent ducks.
Well, they're blaming Trump.
It's Trump's fault.
What happened?
Yeah,
absolutely.
I was listening, I was at the market right after our
podcast yesterday.
Recording, yesterday.
Yes, yes, recording.
And I heard a guest on Fox said, I'm not blaming Trump, but, you know, he's out there playing golf, and
he's out there.
I won't mention the guest's name, but I thought, wow, so you're a candidate and you're playing golf.
How hard is it to A, not tell people you're playing golf, or B, just,
I don't know, cut off a golf course?
I can tell you right now, I have never played golf in my life.
And if I were right now
to go over to a golf course, there's a lot of nice golf courses in Fresno, and I were just to walk on that golf course,
I think somebody would stop me.
I really do.
I don't think I could go there for 12 hours.
And
I don't think I could find out what the...
where a major, if Kamala Harris or Donald Trump were to come into Fresno, I don't think I could really find out exactly where they were going to be at every moment.
I don't think they'd tell me that.
So
how does this guy go onto a golf course for 12 hours?
And
how does he know that Trump's even going to be there?
It doesn't make any sense.
Very extremely, extremely disconcerting.
By the way, Victor, there may be some other.
I'd like to get your thoughts about,
well, it could, you've always talked about it, it could happen again, but
I'm a little personally worried about Robert F.
Kennedy.
And
let's get your thoughts on that when we come back from these messages.
Again, we're back with the Victor Davis-Hansen Show recording on Monday the 16th,
a little more than, I guess, about 26, seven hours after the assassination attempt on President Trump.
I just asked Victor about Robert F.
Kennedy.
Another example, by the way, we've discussed on previous podcasts of how he
has been exposed.
I mean, he's not a candidate anymore, but maybe he's even more
worthy of attack from some nutcase because he has endorsed Donald Trump and he may prove to be a helpful margin of victory in November.
Never mind his family's history.
His father assassinated, his uncle assassinated.
Well, I mean, somebody who's blatantly
denied protection by the Biden administration.
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
And, you know, you don't have to agree with him or disagree with him to know that he's a major figure.
And when he announced his candidacy, I mean, he was a a politician and a celebrity within the left-wing movement.
He was like Connick.
As soon as he declared his candidacy and he made a slight criticism of the Democratic consortia,
and as soon as he was libeled and smeared and slandered for taking possible votes away from Biden, they went into full destructive mode.
They tried to get him off the ballot.
And then, you know what?
All of their lackey, toadish outlets and all of these major online magazines and the New Yorker and all these people, they started to print stuff about him.
All of a sudden, we thought he was kind of left-wing.
And all of a sudden, we hear that he
killed a bear.
And he had to come out and talk about it because he knew it was coming out in the media.
And then the next thing we knew,
he cut a whale's head out.
And the next, and then it was just every day.
And it was like this guy,
he was in the proverbial bullseye of the left.
They were trying to destroy him.
They brought his family out against him.
It was every imaginable story out of 40 years of his life, his active adult life, that was suddenly, why now?
It was all compressed, that he was completely crazy.
Had he just said,
I am Robert F.
Kennedy and I am going to campaign as much as I can for Joe Biden.
They would have said he's, how dare you say that he killed a bear and dumped it?
That's just a lie.
That's how they are.
They're very scary people.
They get these narratives and it's Orwellian and then they all get on the same team.
Remember for a week, it's they're weird.
They're weird.
Trump and Vance are just weird.
And everybody was saying it.
It was just weird.
It was just the narrative.
Well, like the narrative today is, I condemn political violence.
It's this, you find it in the tweets from Chuck Schumann.
Of course, they don't condemn political violence if it happens in Minneapolis in 2020.
I remember Camilla Harris.
I can remember Camela Harris.
Was it 2018?
She was on a talk show with Ellen DeGeneres.
Remember that?
And she said, I saw that.
Yeah.
What would you do with
Mike?
Is it Mike Pence, Donald Trump, and Ted Cruz if you were in an elevator?
And she said, does any of it have to come out alive?
And it was always that way.
It was always...
Big cackles.
Yeah, it was big cackles.
And I don't know.
We talked about, I had written this column that came out today about the debate.
And this race is very, very, very tight.
And it's going to be like this for the next 50 days.
And I can guarantee you, after the October surprise of 2016, when they leaked that dossier right before the voting.
And 2020, when they claimed the Russians had created a laptop and to smear the Biden family right before the first debate and late in the election, they're going to do some of the same stuff.
And I don't know what it's going to be, but it's going to be the same stuff.
And they're going to use this meme that Donald Trump asked basically to be shot at by these people because he is divisive and,
you know calling somebody a coward calling somebody a liar calling somebody a fascist calling somebody a weasel calling somebody a dictator she said he said he's a dictator no she didn't say that he was laughing he said what are you gonna do i'd like to be a dictator for my one day so i can you know have all these executive orders that was a joke Just like they fact-checked him on a joke when he said, I lost by a whisker.
Oh, now
you're contradicting your narrative.
You're admitting it was a close.
That's what they do.
It's just,
they fact-check jokes.
They fact-check irony.
They're just completely lost it, these people.
Yeah,
you mentioned a little bit ago about that clown.
Yes.
And,
you know, at that time,
the genucking to Obama, And you couldn't make fun of him, right?
None of the comedians would.
And Saturday Night Live, etc., cetera, never, never touched him.
He got the freaking Nobel Peace Prize before he was even, you know, he was barely in office.
So to have this, I think to have this glorification, that's the end deserves a yang.
And if you're going to glorify such, you have to have an equal amount of hate for somebody else.
whatever the heck Goldstein was in 1984, you know, two-minute hate.
And Donald Trump is, you know,
the adoration for Obama has to be offset by these people with hatred for somebody.
I mean, passionate hatred.
And that's for Trump.
Anyway, you made me think.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, I mean, I can remember Obama,
he was at a White House correspondence dinner, and he had been ordering all of he had
a new high in targeted assassinations on the Pakistani border.
Yeah.
And this was right when
John Brennan was lying about it and asked, was he asked, did you kill any civilian?
He lied under oath to the Senate.
And then later he admitted that he'd lied.
But somebody was talking, he made a joke about it, said,
anybody wants to date my daughter?
It's called Predator, P-R-E-D-A-T.
It was like, you know, ha ha ha, I can use my targeted assassination to protect my daughter from guys that want to ask her out.
That was, everybody laughed.
That was fine, fine.
But
my God, or, you know, it's like the bullseye that Biden uses.
And
Barack Obama was very provocative.
He basically called the country racist.
He called his own grandmother racist.
He said, every time a black man walked by, she clicked her lock on the door and
she was a racist.
And then he said,
In addition to that, he called
that poor officer in Cambridge, Massachusetts, basically culpable, and there was systemic racism.
And
it was all about race, race, race.
And Trayvon was
the son, looked like
the son I never had.
Can you imagine if anybody else had said that?
Bill Clinton said some
person that was in a high-profile case, if he'd said, that's the son, looks like the son, a white guy, and he said, that looks like the son I never had, and a white, black,
very controversial race case that was being tried at the time.
He had exemptions on any, everything.
And,
you know, still does.
I don't know where this is all leading.
I really don't.
I'm really upset today because
these people are, I was listening on the radio and they were hearing, remember Michael Steele?
Oh, yes.
He was with us on a national.
Yes,
I met him and he was raving about the left.
And right after Obama, the people, the Republican elite establishment thought, well, we have to have an African-American,
high-profile Republican to match
Obama.
And I thought, well, why don't we get the most qualified?
I don't know what he'd ever done.
Was he an official somewhere?
Did he run for office?
He was Virginia.
Maryland, Lieutenant Governor.
Actually, I don't know if he was candidate for lieutenant governor or actually lieutenant governor.
And then he ran for Senate.
He ran a pretty good campaign, affable guy.
And then he became chairman of the Republican Party for a while.
And then
180, right?
Yeah.
And
he was commenting on this, blaming Trump for
being a target.
It's your fault you were a target.
Your language deserved this target status that you had, basically, is what he was
that he was claiming.
And
it's
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Victor, don't you be nice now because my
former colleague at National Review, Charlie Cook, who we were critical of the other day, but he wrote something really interesting.
I think it's worth sharing.
This is today.
He's got a piece called What Are the Rules?
And he writes, he's talking about what,
indeed, in the immediate aftermath of that ugly incident, and this has to do with Paul Pelosi.
The Washington Post recruited no fewer than three of its top writers to draw a direct line between the assault on Paul Pelosi and a series of anti-Nancy Pelosi commercials, political commercials, that were run in 2010, 12 years earlier.
Yeah, I remember that.
I do remember that.
Yeah, so he writes, the post says, the years of vilification culminated Friday when Pelosi's husband, Paul, was attacked, etc., etc.,
by a man, and that guy was,
he was shouting, where is Nancy?
Where's Nancy?
Now, this is back on Charlie.
Let anyone misunderstand what it meant by culminated.
The paper makes sure to spell it out.
Quote, for many Democrats, the piece concluded, the attack on Nancy Pelosi's husband represents the all but inevitable conclusion of Republicans' increasingly violent and threatening rhetoric toward their political opponent.
Victor,
this is the
negative of what we're talking about, what happened yesterday.
Absolutely.
So I've always liked Charlie.
Charles.
Yes, okay.
No, I mean, I don't, I disagreed with him
obviously over Trump.
I think anybody who looks at what these, that the Democratic Party has become, it's a neo-socialist scroll party that's trying to destroy the country.
If you look at what happened in Afghanistan, the border, the debt, crime, energy, et cetera.
And if anybody can't see that Trump's crudity, if that's what it is, that turns people off, just pales in competition.
comparison to this existential difference between the Pelosi, Schumer, Kamala Harris, Biden view of the country and what Trump represents.
But the Washington Post would never have written she had it coming to her.
But Trump can have a bullet whizzing at his head.
No, exactly.
And she said some really provocative things, as people have pointed out about Trump, that
he was a threat.
Joe Biden, just not too long ago, tweeted out that Donald Trump poses an existential threat threat to the country.
If you believe that, Joe, and then
if you, if the President of the United States says that this man who's running for president is an existential threat to the country, then what do you do about an existential threat?
Existential threat means, you know, he's going to destroy the country.
If he's Hitler, Mr.
New Republic, what do you do?
Would you stop Hitler if somebody in 1934 knew that Hitler was
You know, he had a chance and there were chances to kill him.
They knew where it was headed.
So are you basically saying to all these people out there,
go to it, because this guy is Hitler and maybe we can stop him now?
And if the person who's deranged thinks, well, wait a minute, that's kind of an iffy question.
But I see that mainstream leftists, congressmen, senators, media people, they're all for using language like bullseye and beat him up and stab him and burn him and beat the crap out of him, take him behind the gym.
That's pretty encouraging.
And then, in addition to that, they're trying to get him off the ballot.
We've never done that before.
They've impeached him twice.
We've never done that before.
They've tried him as a private citizen.
We've never done that before.
They've raided his private home on a basically a bureaucratic dispute over records.
We've never done that before.
They've charged him
in three different local courts with felonies to put him in jail we never done that they have a special prosecutor who's not even authorized by a statute to go after him never done that before the courts have allowed some wacko person fed by left-wing money to sue him to bankrupt him to the tune of 73 million never done that before
And if you think all of put all of that together, then the message to these people is we're doing our part, and he's Hitler.
We're trying to stop him.
He's an existential threat.
He's got to be stopped.
So other person said, well, I'll do my part.
And
that's how we get these two people.
And believe me, we'll have more of these people because the same message is here.
If on the same day this crazy
Ruth guy
tries to kill Donald Trump and gets within 300 to 400 yards of where he is,
And it's just an accident or a lucky idea that somebody happened to go look in the shrubbery and sees that barrel, he would have probably shot him.
That's not necessarily a hard shot with a scope from 300, 300 to 500 yards.
I can remember my father taught me when I was nine years old.
He took me out with a 22 sift and he shot a jackrabbit at 200 yards with a peep sight.
Yeah, I think he aimed six or eight, 10 inches high, but that's not necessarily a hard shot.
So if that guy can do it, and then the same message, not just that the new Republican people like that are calling him Hitler all summer, but the very day that this happens,
MSNBC is calling him Hitler, our guest, and the K-part
host doesn't say a word.
Hitler, Mussolini, Weasel.
Or you've got people like Venman's wife calling him, you know, basically, ah,
keep going on with your Sundays, no big deal.
So you're just reinforcing two different messages.
One,
he deserves what he gets.
And two, it's pretty easy to shoot at him.
And therefore, Ergo III, we're going to see this again and again until either A or B stop.
Either they stop calling him Hitler and that
he's an existential threat, he's Mussolini, he's a weasel, or the Secret Service gets serious, gets really serious about it.
And if that doesn't change, I guarantee you, somebody in the next 50 days is going to try to shoot him.
I want that to be true.
I want to make that clear.
That's a horrific idea.
But I'm trying to warn people, as I did on August 14th of this year, that it would happen again.
And the conditions have to change or it'll happen again.
There's a lot of crazy people out there that have been imbued with hatred and been told that Donald Trump is satanic and you have to get rid of him somehow.
And when you have all of these celebrities vying with each other about burning him up and blowing them up and decapitating them and shooting them and stabbing them for nine years now, that message is I'm talking about Johnny Depp or Robert.
These are not just isolated people.
These are the icons of Hollywood.
And when
there's no pushback and they're all at the peak of their careers, remember when Johnny Depp said about Link John Welkes Booth, Where Is He Now and We Need Him?
Yeah.
So it's going to happen again.
Overlay that, Victor, with
the absence of any more meritocracy within the Secret Service.
Something's wrong.
That's the $64,000.
She, he is her name.
She should have never been anywhere near the Secret Service directorship.
That was a Jill Biden-Menorkis
DUI award.
And something is wrong.
When you get these these leaks that come out in the blogosphere, that's agent so-and-so, the person in charge of this area didn't even pass the basic merit exam.
They should tell us exactly how you become a secret service agent.
Do you have to pass a test, a basic cognitive test, a basic idea of training, yes or no?
And if you flunk the test, what happens to you?
But they're not being transparent.
This whole country is, you know,
it's like these Boeing, the stories about Boeing, the stories about these planes that taxi and tear off a tail or a door flies open.
Or
this country is in a,
to use their word, existential race to survive.
We have the Chinese looking at this
and the Russians.
And when they look at that border and see 10 million people coming through here,
that's 10 San Francisco's that have to be housed and fed and
given legal and educated and assimilated and integrated.
And we have the highest number in history, both percentage-wise and in actual numbers of immigrants.
When they look at that, or they look at this DEI and they think back to their own Maoist or Stalin past, when it was indoctrinated in communist dogma that ideology should trump merit.
And if you were a commissar,
you were given extraordinary powers, not based on your abilities, but by the zealotry of your ideology.
That's what they're looking at.
And
if we're going to survive, everybody's going to have to just snap out of it and say, there's certain things we agree on.
We have to have a merit-based
economy, a merit-based hierarchy, a merit-based bureaucracy.
We've got to reward people who excel and perform.
And we can't appoint people by their gender or their ideology or their race or their religion.
can't do it.
And it just, and there has to be an accountability society.
So if Donald Trump, the best thing he said in the debate is that you don't fire anybody.
When I saw what happened in Afghanistan, and then I fast forward to Mark Milley, remember his farewell address about dictators?
I pledge my service to the constant
dictator.
I thought, why are you even here?
Why are you even here?
You called your Chinese counterpart and warned him that in your opinion, as professor and Dr.
Milley, that you had diagnosed the president as on hinged.
He hasn't said a word about Biden, by the way, in his retirement, Mr.
Milley, General Milley.
And then you were going to warn him if you got an order to go to DEF CON 1, is that it?
And
you
didn't say anything?
I don't know if you're in the chain of command or not.
You're not supposed to be, but since you inserted yourself in the chain of command to override the president's commander-in-chief right
to
determine what level of security in a crisis we will advance to,
but
then you were responsible for Afghanistan.
You never said a word, except you were there all summer hogging the news, and you never said a word.
Yeah.
Oh, and not even to blame for what happened as opposed to say, I'm a leader, and if you do this, President Biden, the ramifications are going to be colossal globally.
And no, he didn't say a word.
I'm going to quit if you do it.
Afterwards, they all did.
They all said, oh,
I warned him what could happen.
No, you didn't warn anybody.
Nobody had a press conference and said, I resign.
This is going to destroy the country almost if we do this.
It's going to flood the terrorist world with weapons and money.
Nobody said that.
But my point is this.
Here's a guy who really disgraced himself.
If the accounts are true that he called up the head of the PLA, People's Liberation Army, and tipped him off about his own president, if anybody did that
with Biden or Obama, if some conservative general bragged to a reporter, you know, I just think Biden was kind of crazy and Obama was just, I didn't think he knew what he was doing.
So I called somebody over in China, my counterpart, and I said, you know, I want to tell you something.
If Biden or Obama gives me an order, I'm going to tip you off because I'm not going to follow it.
That would be the end.
Zero, period.
That's it.
The person would be.
fired in two seconds or his he would be put on trial for insubordination, if not treason.
That would happen.
And here this guy then got up in front of the country and said we should be looking at Professor Kendi and got on the whole white privilege and white rage.
And we know what that led to in the ensuing two years with DEI.
Basically, it accounted for a rapid drop-off in white males who traditionally of a particular lower middle, middle-class demographic who'd fought in the most dangerous places in the world.
and had died at double their numbers in the population.
And then when you add Afghanistan to the debacle that he was supposedly the president's chief military advisor, and then you take all of that, Jack, and you juxtapose it for his farewell screaming, yelling screed about Donald Trump and a dictator.
And
he's the constant, that's just beyond belief.
It's like Clapper and
Brennan lying under oath to Congress and then lecturing us about Donald Trump.
It's just bizarre.
Well, Victor, more disappointing, troubling, crazy things to get your take on.
Maybe we should talk about the next about the Biden administration and Hezbollah.
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Victor, headline from Gatstone Institute, piece by Daniel Greenfield.
Biden administration pushes Israel to give land to Hezbollah.
Making deals, and subhead, making deals with Islamic terrorists doesn't work.
But this is,
you know, there's a lot of, there's some initial sarcasm in this piece.
Let me just read this paragraph.
American officials recently proposed in a virtual meeting with their Israeli counterparts a land swap between Lebanon and Israel as part of a comprehensive agreement to end the border conflicts and resolve the land dispute between the two countries.
This was reported by
a Kuwaiti newspaper.
But this is to
give land to Hezbollah, which I assume Israel might even be full-fledged war with sooner than later, because there's
lots of gunfire and
missile exchanges going on there.
Victor, your thoughts about this foreign policy initiative of the United States of America?
I mean,
I think everybody is bewildered by it.
Here we have the only democracy and constitutional state in the Middle East, and it's surrounded by deadly enemies that are terrorist, Hezbollah, Hamas, the Houthis, Iran.
And we can't make that simple moral distinction that Israel was prosperous, safe,
staying within its limits in a very dangerous part of the world.
The Abrams Accords were
given to the Biden administration.
If they had have just followed them and kept the embargoes on Iran, we would now have most of the moderate Arab world working with Israel to solve the problem of whatever the problem is with Gaza and the West Bank.
And instead, they just couldn't do it.
So they decided decided that because Israel,
this is what is a sign of a lack of character, and that is
you always go after the person who follows the rules because they listen to you.
And then you make up for that.
And that is compensation for the fact you're terrified of the person who doesn't follow the rules.
I've seen it in the case of illegal aliens here in California, the same principle.
You see people run off the road, destroy your property, go 100 miles an hour, leave the scene of an accident, and they're subject to very little consequences.
But you, or who are a law-abiding citizen, you go 70 miles and a 55 miles, you'll pay a $500 fine and they will go after you.
Same thing with the IRS.
The IRS, there's millions of dollars in income in California that are being earned every day by vendors and things like that off the books.
But anybody else makes a mistake who will pay and follow the rules, but will pay if cited.
Won't disappear.
They go after them.
That's the same thing.
Israel on the national, international level plays the same role.
We can tell them what to do and they'll do it.
You can't talk to Iran.
You can't talk, they're killers.
So then we appease them.
Please, please.
What if we gave you some land concessions from Israel?
What if we went offshore and told the Jewish state that even though these gas fields are in their territorial waters, that they're kind of disputed and we'll give you some?
Would you then please, please not send rockets?
No, it doesn't work.
It doesn't work.
They hate us.
They hate us.
They should love us, Victor.
I just saw yesterday on Fox that the removal of the sanctions on Iran has made it
has the fastest growing GDO in the world.
They're making money hand over fist now.
There's two theories, again, about what this administration is doing.
They're both bankrupt, but one of them is the Obama-Ben-Rhodes dogma that
we withdraw basically
and we keep out of it, and then we consider Israel the moral or political or military equal.
to its enemies.
And therefore, on the one side of the Shia crescent is Iran, Iran,
Syria, Lebanon with Hezbollah, Hamas, the Houthis.
And
they have Persians that are discriminated against by Arabs.
They're the Shia, the underdog of the Arab world in many cases.
And then on the other side are what Biden thought was the corrupt, wealthy Gulf kingdoms, monarchies, Jordan, Egypt, and Israel.
And we just are neutral and we stand back and let them go at it.
And every once in a while, we intervene to help one side, the other, and we have a creative tension.
That's one view of what they're doing because we have to figure out what they're doing.
It doesn't make sense.
And the other is maybe, well, we're going to give Iran so many concessions and they're going to make so much money on oil that it'll be kind of like we thought with China, that if they
adopt Western capitalist principles and they get wealthy and there's a middle class and it's materialistic and they have all these consumer goods, then they will be politically liberal, just like China.
No, I'm sorry, China didn't.
And that's what they think they're doing.
I think that's part of their plan is to empower Iran and make them.
I don't know.
We have a quarter million people from the Middle East that went to Michigan and they've thrived and they're middle class and they run Dearborn and other towns.
And it doesn't seem from what their demonstrations are after October 7th and their attitude toward the American flag or toward the American President that they're particularly grateful to be in this country.
And if I were to collate what
the squad has said, Ms.
Talib
or Ilyan Omar or any of them, Rasheed Talib or any of the squad, I don't really particularly see a genuine love and affection for this country they fled to or their parents fled to.
So I don't really think that our success, I mean, I think it was Ilyan Omar said that her father brought, it was a dirty country.
When she got here, it disappointed her.
It was not that impressive, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.
So anytime that you grovel before a group and you say, come in here, we're guilty, and they start to sense, oh, July 4th is a racist day.
That was the founding of this racist society.
1619 acknowledges that much better.
We've got to take down all these statues.
We've got to rename these buildings.
We're just so full of guilt and we're so terrible.
What is the outsider's?
Wow, gee, whiz, I thought you guys were proud.
You got these
great infrastructure.
It's humane.
You've got this Bill of Rights.
I thought this is nowhere else in the world.
But you know what?
If that's what you think of yourself, I'll just chip in and get some stuff myself.
And that's where we are.
So
if you don't have self-respect or honor or patriotism, then why would anybody else have it?
And when I see these protests, as I've seen them for a year now, blocking the Manhattan Bridge, blocking the Oakland Bridge,
occupying the Stanford campus, reading all of the graffiti,
hearing the chants, Genocide Joe, Genocide Joe about a left-wing president, looking at the dearborn demonstrations,
looking at what Talib is saying about this country, going on social media.
I don't sense a great deal of gratitude.
by that immigrant community for being in this wonderful United States.
It seems to me that their
sympathy, empathy, and preferences are to the area that they abandon, that they consider the Hamas agenda much more dear to their hearts than they do the American agenda.
It's just my own perception.
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I plead,
I should plead ignorance because I'm generally ignorant, but I do not read the New York Times.
I just haven't read it.
I don't either.
So I get my news about the Times from other papers.
It's not the New York Times.
It's a bunch of incompetent, hardly accomplished wannabes inherited this flagship newspaper, and they've hijacked it, and they've used the name New York Times.
If you compare any of the columnists or the editors with the people who were there just 40 or 50 years ago,
there's no comparison.
I don't know what it is.
I don't even know what it is, but I don't read it.
They're pedigreed.
Don't forget the people who work there have
they have the right
they went to the right schools.
Let's just say that.
Well,
the Wall Street Journal, which I do read and I subscribe to, today's edition, and again, we're recording today, Monday the 16th, has a lead editorial.
John Roberts, Supreme Chief Justice, gets his turn in the dock.
And in a nutshell,
the Times had a big story yesterday
attacking him, trying to put him
in, no, well, they didn't say in the crosshairs, but just make him uncomfortable with, and
They reported on leaks about internal court deliberations.
And this is too much to read.
I'm not going to read it.
But
among the things that were leaked is an account of the private conversation among the justices after an oral argument.
This is a betrayal.
This is the journal editorial now.
This is a betrayal of confidence that will affect how the justices do their work.
It's arguably worse worse than the leak of the draft opinion in Dobbs, the 2022 abortion case.
That leaker still hasn't been identified, but it was probably a clerk or functionary at the court.
This leak bears the possible fingerprints of one or more of the justices.
That's really troubling, Victor.
Yeah, but you'd expect it because it's a natural result of a climate in which it's seen to be legitimate to attack the conservative members of the court.
And the rules don't apply if you're not
conservative.
So, put it in context,
you had
I've been reading accounts all week about the Camilla Harris agenda.
I think there was also an article in the Wall Street Journal where people, the writers were saying the Montana seat is very important
for Kamala Harris's strategy when she wins or if she wins.
It was quoted in there.
I don't think it was
because
that way her agenda could be facilitated through the Senate.
And it comprised two things, the end of the Senate filibuster.
And more importantly, it said, reform the court.
Reform the court is a left-wing euphemism for packing the court.
That is, picking six liberal justices to increase the number to 15, which means they have no
respect for a nine-justice court that has been in existence since 1869.
And every time it went hard left, I don't remember people on the right saying we've got to pack it when we come into power.
I do remember a 1937 court packing scheme by FDR, but of course he was a leftist like the people today.
And in the left-wing mind, it is we are so morally superior that any means necessary to allow us to have power to
do something good for your ignorant people is justified.
So when you do that, you tell pack the court, pack the court, pack the court, get rid of the filibuster, get rid of the filibuster.
You're Chuck Schumer.
You go out in front of the court while in sessions.
Gorsage,
Kavanaugh, you sowed the wind.
You're going to reap the whirlwind.
You don't know what's going to hit you.
Or people show up at Kavanaugh's home as an assassin.
Oh, I think I'm going to kill him, but maybe I'll call my sister.
And she talked him out of it, or maybe he would be dead.
And there is a federal statute that says that you cannot intimidate a federal judge at his or her residence in an effort to influence a pending decision.
There was nobody prosecuted by Merrick Garland, who just gave us a pompous lecture about how you didn't weaponize the DOJ.
And when you go look at all those news accounts on Clarence Thomas, basically saying he's a crook,
and they couldn't, they were just obsessed with him.
And you add all of that together, and Elizabeth Warren just the other day was talking about the court.
Then what would you expect?
It's if you were a clerk or you were a liberal judge, you would think, I'm just going to leak this thing about Dobbs and whip up a bunch of, you know, pre-midterm hysteria.
It'll help us get elected in the midterm.
It'll demonize the judges.
I'll get I'll
sow the field, get it ready to harvest.
And that's what they did.
And there will be no consequences because I look at the popular perception of the court and the media, and they're attacking it on every possible issue.
And the same thing with a justice.
So if you're Brown or Kagan,
et cetera, then your attitude is, if I leak, nobody's going to say anything.
Nobody meaning the people who count.
Right.
And I think there's no deterrence anymore in the court.
And the Chief Justice Roberts, he better do something.
He better.
Well,
the fact that no one was ever
sound for Dobbs is really.
How hard is that to find out who leaked it?
There must be X number of people who had access to it.
Just have the FBI come in and have a lie detector test and grill them and see if any of their stories or their narratives are self-contradictory.
And you could find out pretty quickly.
But
it's
there's no, this is a society with no consequences.
There's no law, no rule of law, no consequences for person's action.
No one gets fired.
It's all there.
It's no shame.
It's all therapeutic.
It's all therapeutic.
Robert De Niro almost every day can say, I want to beat him up.
I want to hit him.
I want to slap the president of the United States.
And as sure as the sun rises, if anybody says that, had said that about Obama or Kamala Harris, if she'd win, he would be the first one to say that that person should be prosecuted.
Yeah.
And,
you know.
Well,
well, Victor, you've
given us a lot to think about.
I'm going to put off.
We could talk an hour about the Pope, but I think we'll hold off on that for another.
As a non-Catholic, I have to be
all I can say about the Pope is
he is as
he is
speaking of him in a religious context, but from an outside observer, he is as partisan as a politician.
In other words,
his fire and his criticism is always directed at somebody in the conservative side.
And when it is not, and somebody on the left has transgressed canonical rules or protocols or belief, he always finds a right-wing person to balance that.
Right.
So
maybe we just should revise and extend our remarks to five minutes then about because he did, he said the other day,
he was asked about the American elections.
And frankly,
as you know, I'm Catholic.
I'm practicing Catholic.
I don't enjoy
criticizing the leader of my faith.
I do also think people who are not Catholics and even those who are not religious
agree that the Catholic Church has some role in a central role in Western civilization,
allegedly the advocating of it and
being critical of the enemies of Western civilization, which would be communism, for example.
Anyway, he mouthed off, though.
He says
he compared the one who throws away migrants and the one who kills children.
So it was a pox on Trump and a pox on Harris.
And Victor,
I'm sure you know this, in church teaching, I mean, abortion is a sin.
It is a very serious sin.
Having a border and opposing illegal aliens is not a sin.
And
he gave us the nation, you know, with Israel.
I thought it was canonical not to lie.
And
this country is not migrant bashing.
It let in in the last four years per year more migrants, immigrants,
illegally to boot, than all the other countries allow put together in the world.
China does not let in 10 million people.
Italy does not let in 10 million people.
Argentina does not let in 10 million people.
Russia does not let in 10 million people.
North Korea does not.
Iran does not.
This is the only country that allows 10 million people.
And it's probably, Trump is right, it's probably larger,
come in illegally and reside illegally, and then give them full
health, housing, food, educational, legal subsidies to get some semblance of parity at the expense of a
completely strapped middle class and a nation that's $35 trillion in debt.
And can't he see that?
That this is the most migrant, immigrant-loving country in the world.
And when you're talking about giving complete health care to people who've never had it, and all they did was walk across the border and entered into the United States one inch.
And all of a sudden, they are getting things that were undreamed of in Oaxaca or Chiapas or Michokan or Venezuela.
Doesn't he understand that?
Well, he doesn't.
Why would he criticize the United States or the conservative side of the United States for wanting to have a border that was secure?
Why doesn't he just, I've been to the Vatican numerous times.
To tell you the truth, there's fortifications.
It's a sovereign nation.
Why doesn't, and I see the Swiss guards, I see the stone walls of antiquity, I see the fencing.
Why doesn't he just say, you know what?
We have a wonderful history of amnesty.
And during World War II, we allowed a lot of Jewish people to live here under our auspices.
So we're just going to take down our walls.
And we know there's migrants, and we're not a migrant discriminating religious organization.
We've got a big plaza out there in front of St.
Peter's Cathedral.
It's It's big.
I've been there.
It's huge.
Absolutely.
We could put about, I don't know, 10,000 tents in there with port-a-potties and just allow people to enjoy their migrant status without fear of deportation.
Why don't we do it?
Why don't you do it, Mr.
Pope?
It's always the same.
It's always lecture from on high on some poor person in Springfield.
How dare you mention Kath?
Why don't you go there, Dana Bash?
Why don't you open up?
We saw what happened when people like yourself at Martha's Vineyard had, what, 100 illegal aliens?
You people went absolutely crazy, and they were gone in 72 hours.
But it's always some, they're always looking for this mythical American.
He's a middle-class guy.
kind of a caricature of Archie Bunker.
He's usually white.
He's conservative.
He gets up.
He doesn't complain.
He goes to work.
And he doesn't have the refined taste of the bicultural elite, and they
project all the sins of the world upon him.
And he is a bigot.
And when you go look at those people,
but Meathead wouldn't be able to eat if it wasn't for Archie, right?
No, no, they work.
I see them every day.
It's not just, I'm not just saying white people.
It's a lot of other people, too.
I got up at 5.30 today to do my morning walk jog
and it was dark and I turned the corner and here was the guy, a Mexican national probably on the neighbor's place.
You know what he was doing in the dark at about 5.45?
What?
Turning tray.
turning rolling trays.
That's one of the worst jobs I've done it my entire youth and into my 40s.
You've got to bend over and you've got to take a piece of paper with 22 pounds of raisins and you've got to flip it and roll it into a cigarette.
And there's 300 of those per row.
And a good person can do 2,500 a day.
And that person was out there doing it.
In the dark?
Wow.
Yes, in the dark.
In the dark.
There was a little bit of sunlight, not sunlight, but you could see the sun was going to rise in about a half hour.
And he surprised me.
He was so busy, I came up behind him.
And
those kind of, there's a lot of people like that that work very hard
and they make the country run.
And
I just don't like this idea that all these people are
illiberal or they're not sophisticated or not enlightened like the Pope or like Nancy Pelosi or
Chuck Schumer or Joe Biden or Kamala Harris.
And,
you know,
it's just
proud to be a Trump, Victor.
Proud to be a Trump.
You can see where this whole thing is going.
This whole thing is a class thing.
It really is.
It is.
The hatred of Donald Trump is class-driven.
It really is.
He's a, that's why the Cheneys hate him.
That's why the Pelosis hate him.
That's why the movie stars hate him.
That's why the professors hate them.
He just seems to empower people they want to run from.
Man, that's
anyway.
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Would love to hear your thoughts on John Dos Passos.
I think he must have listened to your show the other day when you were talking with Sammy
about,
oh my gosh,
Homeward Angel.
Yeah, Thomas Wolfe.
Thomas Wolfe, right, yeah.
He writes, I feel my intellectual journey has paralleled his.
In some ways, I'm a new fan to the show, but I recall your appearances on ancient History Channel documentaries.
I think it was American, well, whatever, the History Channel.
And it brought me back in later life to your work, which I thoroughly enjoyed, your book on World War II and the end of everything.
Thanks for your thoughts on politics every week, cutting through the Orwellian state media we live with.
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Ager, Ager.
Oh, wow.
Yeah, I didn't have a chance to talk.
I was talking about Thomas Wolf, but I was talking about people who wrote in contemporaneous.
And I remember in college reading The Big Money.
I think that was in the late 30s.
And that was part of that USA trilogy that he wrote.
I'm reading that right now.
Caroline.
Yeah, I mean, halfway through.
That's an attack.
Isn't that a, that is.
It's kind of a pro-union.
Yeah, he was in a leftist, but it's really, I remember he hated
Woodrow Wilson.
Yeah, so did he.
And he hated the elite, but it was kind of a populist left-wing.
And then he went, he was, he was considered
one of the best young writers of the 30s.
And then he got conservative.
And they just, in the 1960s, he and Steinbeck,
to a lesser extent, Falker became conservative.
And man,
did they disown him?
Well, John Dos Pasos, a couple of things quickly.
He wrote for National Review, which went, it started
in 1965.
I did not know that.
Oh, yeah.
And
the earlier years, and then this is really funny.
A few weeks ago, Neil Freeman, who
was very,
just the greatest guy.
Neil was Bill Buckley's campaign manager when Bill ran for mayor in 1965.
He's the founding producer of Firing Line, a TV show.
He's the dad of James Freeman, who works for the Wall Street Journal.
I'm sure people see James on the journal journal report on Fox.
Anyway, Neil, young, young Neil in 1964 led the coverage at the GOP convention in San Francisco.
National Review is trying to put out a daily paper there.
And who walks up to help him?
Because he was very short-staffed, just happened to be in San Francisco with John Dos Passos.
And Neil wrote this about, I don't know, two months ago in National Review.
He recounted this, what it was like to have one of the great writers of the 20th century humbly become a reporter for a guy who was like 24 years old.
So it was pretty cool.
And I sent that to Dos Passos's
grandson.
Had a little back and forth with him.
But anyway, that USA trilogy is, yeah,
left of center, but
beautifully.
Wow, I remember.
I can remember that when I was reading him, he
first read,
not the big money, the one before it.
Manhattan Transfer?
Yeah, it was, and it was, I was told, I had a really good English high school teacher, believe it or not, in a very rural school, Marilee Hearn.
She was very underappreciated.
She was kind of a, you know, and a very agrarian.
She was an intellectual and she loved reading and she would try to develop kids that were interested in books.
And then she would, after class, she never married.
She's kind of a spinster, if I could use that taboo term.
But she was a very sweet person.
And she wasn't always treated nice by the, because they thought she was weird.
But she always would tell me to, Victor, I really liked you.
You express an interest in Jack London.
Try reading John DeS.
And in that, I remember.
If I can recall right, I was a freshman in high school in 1967,
and he came out for Richard Nixon.
And I thought, wow,
John De Pasos.
He did.
And I remember I came home, and my mom was an old Democrat.
I don't mean old in chronology, but
she said, yeah, he's all
in those days, anybody who
had voted for Goldwater was considered.
And I think he'd also supported Goldwater.
He was like Steinbeck on the Vietnam War.
And
people kind of just, he was just taboo.
He was just kind of like Christopher Hitchens for three or four years when he supported the Iraq war.
And then he got in the good graces when he returned to the 2008 Obama team.
And he was forgiven and then, you know, canonized again.
But for a period, and that's when I knew him, he was really ostracized by the left.
So there is no idea that you can be free.
and just think and still get along with people.
It's either you're on the,
what Ken Keese said, you're on the bus or you're not on the bus, right?
Well,
it's the season we're in to every season, and
Victor, you've been terrific.
Uh, thanks for all the wisdom you shared, and thanks, folks, for listening.
And we will be back soon with another episode of the Victor Davis Hanson Show.
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