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Victor,

how to begin here with all this Harris stuff?

You've written, you wrote your

American Greatness piece.

I haven't seen it yet, but I've heard about it, about the post-debate ambiguity and how things,

you know,

what might seem apparent in the immediate aftermath is not the case a few days later.

Tell us, give us your analysis.

Well, I just finished it about literally 30 minutes ago, and it's kind of anatomy of the post-debate detreatis.

So everybody knows what the conventional wisdom was on September 11th, 24 hours after.

It was more or less correct.

They did polls in

the day and then two days after.

And it was clearly whatever Trump says, he says it was his best debate.

He won the debate.

In the first 48 hours, anywhere from 55 to 65% of those polled

thought that Trump lost and lost badly.

Okay.

There was ecstatic ebulation on the part of the left.

The never Trumper

people were ecstatic.

If you saw what Bill Kristol and Karl Rove wrote, one of the the most damning pieces of Trump in the Wall Street Journal.

And there were elements of truth in all of this in the sense that

Trump got angry, and I wrote that on X and on my website.

He got angry.

She came out to bait him.

He fell for it.

He did not do what you and I had talked about.

When she said that, you know, he was a loser, his rallies, that was really a smart thing, a Machiavelli thing to say

no one likes his rallies.

They leave early.

He just went nuts at that.

But

what people wanted him to do was say something as we've spoken about.

There you go again, Camilla.

Or he's something like, you know,

Bullets and stones will break my bones, but words will never hurt me.

You know what I mean?

Something weird like that.

Or don't,

can't you just get off it?

Why are you so obsessed, Camilla?

Come on, let's just talk about my position.

But he didn't do that.

He wasn't a Reagan-esque at all.

And then

that was

hurt him.

And then she wasn't going to think on her feet, Jack.

All she did was she memorized canned responses and then plugged them in, even if the question had nothing to do with them.

And then she looked like Rodan's thinker.

Remember, she put her hand on her,

her fist on her chin, and she batted batted her eyes.

She looked sarcastic.

That was all contrived.

Rehearsal.

Yes.

And then she, you know, she basically

did not discuss her flip-flops, her padded bio, all of her outlandish statements.

And then she counted on, as we've all talked about,

the moderators.

Okay.

Everybody thought she was going to get a six to eight point balance that she demolished them.

She did not.

We're now talking

almost a week after the debate, and it looks like that she had a one and a half point lead going into the debate.

And she has in the aggregate of polls.

The New York Times said that she was behind, but I don't think she is.

And then aggregate of polls, it's about two points or two and a half to three.

So she might have gained a point.

But the consensus was

that she was going to get a lot larger.

Now, I'm not disputing the conventional wisdom, Jack.

Donald Trump had a golden moment to knock her out.

Had he just smiled and laughed off all of her personal insults and said, would you please talk to me about what you believe?

If you believe this, Kamala, and I know he did it a couple of times.

Why didn't you do it in three and a half years?

Why don't you do it in the next five months?

You got a perfect.

I want to see it.

But he got angry.

and that message was lost as he talked about crowd size and his business.

In any case,

now we're into the week.

And the reason she did not get the six to seven,

because people, I'm not saying I agree with them, everybody, but the people did think, and Trump denied it, but you can't.

And why did she get that six?

Did she not get the six to seven?

Well, a lot of things, Jack, happened after the debate.

And the most,

I'll give you two.

She did an interview that you alluded to with this local left-wing anchor man, Brian Toff in Philadelphia.

He's the go-to guy if you're a Democratic candidate that needs to win Pennsylvania.

I watched that 11-minute interview, Jack.

Those were the biggest softballs I ever seen.

And yet all she did when she was asked to explain her agenda, she just plugged in the exact memorized debate riffs of a few nights earlier.

That's all she did.

They asked her, she said,

I grew up in a middle class.

My mom was a small, it was the same thing.

And then that was kind of a window that

when she was dear in the headlights for that 11 minutes and she couldn't answer.

And the reason she couldn't answer was she was trying to recall the two-week prep in which she had memorized these canned responses and it had worked in the debate because the moderators are on her side.

So she tried to plug them in into this interview.

And it was a mess.

And you know it was a mess because the New York Times, the Washington Post, LA, they did not want to cover it.

No one covered it except conservative news.

But my God, she'll never do another interview.

It was a stress test because nobody knows who this.

No, it's not a national.

She should have done a national interview.

It was just a local TV show.

And she screwed it up.

And then I think people said, well, we, we did our interview, the first one in 50 days.

So that really started, at least along some people, it started saying, wow.

And

maybe the debate was just a canned thing.

She never, and these focus groups said she never really said who she is, why she flipped, what she's going to do, any of that.

And then another thing happened after the debate.

Jack, you heard that Lindsay Davis that she kind of

under pressure, she kind of fessed up and said,

well, yeah, we fact-checked.

And yes, it was five times and no for her.

And then she didn't mention, of course, as you pointed out, when she said there's no state where, you know, where it's legal to kill a baby after it's born.

That was not true.

There's a six to nine of them.

And Waltz himself, remember he vetoed that Minnesota state legislature bill that said if a baby is born,

he has to be protected.

And he vetoed that.

And of course,

the Virginia governor's remark that Trump alluded to.

So she was wrong about that.

And she was wrong about the FBI crime statistics.

A, on two counts, by the way, Trump said that not all the cities report that is true.

And two, he said even then, they're elevated over 2020.

And then, what, three days later, the 2020 report, 23 came out and confirmed everything that Trump said.

The worst was that came out when she said there were no military personnel posted abroad in combat zone.

Did you see that clip where those guys were in Syria, I think, or Iraq?

And they said,

what's going on here?

You know, they've been under attack like 25 times by Iranian-backed terrorists.

The guys on, we got lost three guys in the Red Sea.

They're under attack.

There's people in Africa under attack.

So that

started all coming out.

And then, you know, people pointed out, if you're going to fact check

and you did it five times with Trump, why not doing it once about the old Charlottesville lie that both sides that Snopes even or the number two, the bloodbath lie that had nothing to do with the people, was about the car industry or Project 2025 lie or Trump's support for what, federal abortion ban lie, or the

five cops die.

Well, so they, this Lindsay Davis then was admitting in an interview that she and David Muir had worked for weeks to not just fact check Trump and by association,

not Harris, and that was confirmed by what actually happened, but she said a very interesting thing, everybody.

She said, we did this and the ABC staff because we did not want a repeat of the CNN

Trump-Biden debate of June.

And what she was really saying then was,

we don't believe that Biden lost because he was demented like everybody else.

We believe that Trump said things that weren't true.

Of course, Biden did the bloodbath and the whole thing and that too.

And therefore, we were not going to allow him to do that.

So

what she was saying she's kind of inadvertently admitted that the democratic nominee at the time biden had his career crashed

not because he was demented as i said but because he wasn't fact checked so basically she's saying that our democratic media fusion lost with biden because there was no moderator interference.

And therefore, we learn that we're never going to do that again.

We're never going to be, I don't know, somewhat fair again.

Then there were other things to beat a dead horse.

Remember that,

what was her name?

She was the ABC

Dana Walden, I think.

She was a senior Disney executive that, and her portfolio was to look over ABC.

It comes out.

She was,

what, quote, I think it was reported that she was an extraordinary friend for 30 years with Camilla Harris.

And her husband and Camela's husbands were best friends.

So here you have the ABC

director that makes all the decisions on the debate and no one tells us till after the debate that all the planning for the debate was done by Kamala Harris's best friend.

And then we're told about the sorority sister.

I don't know to what degree the idea that Lindsey Davis belonged to the same national sorority as Kamala Harris and they talked or they met.

But the point I'm making is this.

This would never have mattered if the debate had been run fairly.

But when it was so warped and biased and such favoritism, then people tried to account for it.

And then these other things that we're talking about came up.

So what I'm saying is that after the debate was over, people said, oh my God.

They never fact-checked Harris.

And some of the fact-checks, half of them, three of the five were lies about Trump.

Oh my God, they asked Trump for follow-up questions to pin him down.

They never did that once when she talked about off-topic bio stuff.

Oh, my God, they asked him basically to say, deny you're a racist,

election denialist, and insurrectionist.

They never said anything about her.

Oh, my God, they tried to break up the tempo when he was going by interrupting him.

And they never did that with her.

So as a result of that, people got really angry.

And then what happened, this was really funny in a way, it spurred a lot of conspiracy theories.

And I can think of at least three that have come out.

Remember, number one, that she had earrings that looked like

they were what, receivers, and she was getting

directions.

I don't think that's been proven.

There's another one that she got like, remember when Donna Brazil, I think it was, gave the CNN questions to Hillary Clinton?

And then she had to fess up and they put her on suspension.

Well, there was an accusation of a Clinton, Donna Brazil, CNN collusion that Harris had the questions.

And there's, wasn't there a whistleblower that said he was coming out?

I don't think he ever did.

That was sort of another blogosphere conspiracy.

And then there was the one of Trump himself when he said, this is the best debate I've ever had.

Everybody knows I won.

That was not true either.

But the point I'm making again is this.

The left got outraged.

And you look at the headlines.

I looked at them this morning.

Right-wing, Wilmermill, conspiracy.

That wouldn't have happened if you hadn't, Mr.

Left Wing, created conspiracies yourself.

So which is worse?

Think about it.

And I was thinking about that.

Which is worse, the proven, demonstrable, well-founded conspiracy of the moderators, in a, I guess you'd call it predetermined fashion to hammer only Trump, planned for weeks, or the frenzied reaction to believe any fruitle that pops up on the internet that might

synchronize with the ABC admitted warping of the debate.

And that's where we are.

And so

where do you go from here?

Any conservative that ever put his foot in the Stepanophilus, John Carl, David Muir,

Lindsey Davis, ABC venue has to have his head or her head examined.

In fact, if I was a Republican, I would never, never

do an ABC, NBC, CBS, MSNBC, CNBC, PBS, NPR, or CNN ever again.

And if you people think that's crazy, Victor, just remember these names.

Donna Brazil,

Candy Crawley, David Muir, Lindsey Davis.

Do you get the message?

These are all moderators of presidential debates or primary or general election debates that warp the outcome.

And if they want to have a debate, man, I've mentioned this before, Jack.

I've done,

I don't know, 20 or 30 debates according to the Cambridge-Oxford model.

So you don't have any moderators.

None.

You have a timekeeper.

And the timekeeper says, Mr.

Hansen, would you please, is the athenian uh is america an empire that is the proposition i debated uh

arianna huffington on you have a five-minute statement

miss huffington you have a five-minute statement of your own da da da da da mr hanson you have a three minute rebuttal of the opponent's statement

miss huffington you have a three minute rebuttal of

Mr.

Hansen's open statement.

Mr.

Hansen, you have a two-minute rebuttal of her rebuttal.

Ms.

Huffington, you have a two-minute rebuttal of Mr.

Hansen's rebuttal.

Okay, debate closed on this thing.

Now we go to topic two.

And you do 10 minutes, 10 minutes, 10 minutes, and 90 minutes.

No moderator editorializes.

If they're lying, then it's up to me to point it out.

And if I don't point it out, I'm culpable.

And that's what the debate could have been.

So easy.

They just can't do this.

They can't leave it alone.

So that was my take.

And it explains two things, why

she didn't get the six to seven and like bill maher said that the election's over it's not but it's also important for all of us in the conservative side to realize that she was so bad and they were so biased that donald trump had an opportunity to knock her out he could have won just overwhelmingly because she was so bad she was so vague she was so snarky swarmy all he had to do was smile

and just joke around and then just ask her,

you know, you haven't said what we want to know.

These people are dying to know.

You're a stealth candidate.

You flipped on every single issue.

Please, we're just begging you, just come out and promote democracy.

And he said that in different fragments, but not calmly and not rationally.

And that really hurt him.

And that's why he did go down maybe a point.

End of story.

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little headline here here in today's New York Post.

Again, we are talking on Sunday the 15th, and this particular episode will be up on

Tuesday, the 17th.

Vice President Kamala Harris's victory in Tuesday's presidential debate did little to convert voters in North Carolina, where a new poll indicates Donald Trump may have even gained ground.

Trump edged out Harris 48.4 to 46% among likely voters in the Battleground State, according to a Trafalgar Group poll released Saturday.

Victor,

this kind of all parallels the law fair, doesn't it?

I mean, the reaction to the law fair is

in the word

fairness of the American people seeing unfairness in the application of contrived prosecutions against Trump here.

And then likewise, we have

a media contriving to, I guess, you know, prosecute and play unfairly with Donald Trump.

And maybe that is the,

that's part of the reason, at least I think,

for the

not 6% bump.

Does that ring true?

Yeah, there's a great anger and empathy that's developing.

Whether it will come to full fruition in the next 55 days, I don't know.

But when you look at the totality, And there's some people who have really pointed this out.

Was it Eric Weinstein, Britt Weinstein's brother, who wrote about this?

And

a lot of people have just, and I've written beat it to death, but when you look at the totality,

if we were to go back to 2016, right before the election, and you had that BuzzFeed thing that Trump was a Russian agent, you had

the, we were talking right about this, a little later than this time in October, that Donald Trump had urinated on a bed with a prostitute in Moscow.

All of that disgusting stuff.

And they had destroyed Papadolpa, and they had destroyed Carter Page.

And they were, it was horrible.

And that was no chance to refute it.

And how he won that election, I don't know.

They were asleep at the wheel, I guess, with the mail-in balloting.

They didn't have an excuse yet to go to mail-in balloting.

And then we had the same thing with the disinformation.

And what's so bad about that is that Leon Panetta, that everybody says is a senior wise man,

he licked that up.

So did Clapper, so did Brennan, so did Mike Morrell.

It was all orchestrated by he and Blinken.

And they tried to warp an election, a conspiracy.

And they didn't just leave it at signing that affidavit.

It had all the hallmarks, this authentic, genuine FBI

in possession of laptop.

Remember, everybody, the FBI had Hunter's laptop.

They had done forensics on it.

They knew it was inauthentic.

They knew it was authentic.

It was corroborated by Tony Bobolinski, who had the same emails that appeared on the last.

It was authentic.

Okay.

And yet our top corrupt intelligence lied to the American people to change their vote.

Then they used the FBI to go to Twitter with Jack Dorsey and to go to Mark Zuckerberg and try to suppress the New York Post and other outlets not to report the truth.

That was a coup.

And, you know, there was at least one,

albeit conservative poll that said it affected people's vote in a very close race and the Electoral College was lost by about 45,000 votes.

Then they didn't stop.

They did not stop.

They raided Mar-Lago.

I think Melania, isn't she fighting a $100 million suit against DOJ for going in and destroying her house with SWAT teams?

And they'd never done that before.

They'd never done that before.

And then we had this clown, Fannie Willis.

It was just a joke with her boyfriend.

They both lied under oath.

They were meeting with the White House.

And then

Biden was walking around the corridors of the White House, kind of like Augustus after the Tutenberg Wall.

Give me back my, Verus, give me back my legions.

He was saying, will anybody, or maybe better, huh?

Thomas, Henry II and the Cathedral, will anybody relieve me of this man?

That's what he was saying.

Well, will anybody going to

indict him or not?

Right.

Then we had no statute, no special prosecutor statute.

We found out with Robert Mueller, he had to be appointed by congressional vote.

Nobody did that with Smith.

And then we found out Smith was communicating while he was investigating with Trump.

We found out that Robert Hur had much more evidence of Biden wrongdoing than he did of Trump, and yet

Biden was exonerated.

We found out that Jack Smith was trying to

accelerate a federal prosecution contrary to DOJ policy.

It said in the last 90 days of an election, people should not indict major political figures.

And then we have the clown, Letita James, and

that was the worst.

You know, that we go and say he inflated his assets.

And

the Deutsche Bank says, He paid the loan back.

We made interest.

We're happy.

We have no problem.

And they indict him on that.

Then we have Reed Hoffman, a big Biden donor, LinkedIn billionaire, giving E.

Jean Carroll millions of dollars of legal support to go after Trump on something that we've already gone through, but it was completely bogus.

It was the exact plot of a TV show

that she just recycled and put herself in there.

And then finally, I don't know if that was the worst at all, but Alvin Bragg.

And they kept saying, you know, there was no collusion, but Fannie Willis's poor Nathan Wade boyfriend went twice and consulted with the White House counsel.

And the third, this Colangelo, the third guy and the DOJ

went to

Alvin Bragg and volunteered his services to help indict.

Trump over a campaign violation that even the federal government responsible for a campaign violation didn't say was worthy of any investigation or indictment.

And they put some obscure law.

Well, if

you commit

a crime, and even it's a federal law, we'll go after you with a state law.

It was just horrible.

And then we go into the 16 states that tried to file to get Donald Trump off the ballot.

And so they were trying to break him.

They were trying to destroy him psychologically and physically.

And I think, and then we look at the moderators and this debate.

Then we look at

Donald Trump agreed to go into enemy territory in ABC.

He agreed to go into enemy territory in CNN.

She won't go into enemy territory on Fox because she knows what Foxes will do.

They'll be fair.

And they will ask her point blank: you said you were against fracking.

You said that you would not support fracking.

It's not just not supporting fracking.

Do you not support all of the infrastructure and the horizontal drilling?

And would you please tell us yes or no?

And if it's yes now, tell us why you changed.

And she can't answer that.

And even with prep, she can't answer that.

So

we're in a coup.

And remember, these people took Joe Biden, who was behind, and they coordinated him in March of 2020 and eliminated the other opposition.

They got Bernie to drop out, Warren to drop out, Buttigig to drop out.

Spartacus to drop out.

And then they lied to us for three years and said that anybody who suggests that he is non-composment is an ageist, a nut, a conspiracy.

What that was the word we talked about, Jack, fake videos.

What was the word they did?

It was a word they used about fake videos.

No, it was, you know, it was like they were implying they were doctored.

Yes, yes.

And then one day,

in Pravda fashion, narrative no longer operative.

Joe Biden, eight points behind in polls.

Solution, change narrative, say that he is non-compos mentes, say that he is demented, leak all about him.

Directive two from Kremlin, now transmogrify Harris from incompetent spiro agno insurance policy about removing

Joe Biden because you wouldn't want her.

Now she is fit.

She's wonderful.

She's eloquent.

She's mellifilous.

She's our candidate.

Send word out.

Send word out to all donors, donors, donors, donors, donors.

And media, media, media, change script, change script, change script,

change script.

Harris no longer incompetent.

She's brilliant.

24-hour window to do this.

And then that was it.

And then it was.

You're too funny, Victor.

Well, that's what it was.

I know.

This is like Winston Smith would be doing this in 1984.

Absolutely.

And then they get all together and say, call donors, call donors, call donors.

You can win now.

We can win.

We can close poll, but you have to give us a billion dollars.

And then it came in.

And, you know, when you look at Trump, and I've been critical of his inability to really get a home run in that debate, but my God, what they have done

just never stops.

It's so weird.

And

now, and then, you know,

the weirdest thing, and I'll just finish on this one about this whole thing is

they've got the eating of the animals.

And then she,

yeah, when he said that they're eating animals,

and she said, well, that's the kind of stuff you're going to hear.

She didn't say that.

That's the kind of stuff you're going to hear.

And

batted her eyes, you know, grimaced, raised her eyebrows, put her

hand on it.

Miss Rodine, thinking about what to think is the thinker.

But the point is, they go in there and they have a 911 call by a Haitian watt.

He's carrying geese.

And those are park animals.

They're not wild game.

They're all over the park and ducks.

And then

was it Chris Ruffo who traced down the cat story?

He found somebody from the Congo who had left their home and the people had reoccupied it said that they were cooking a cat on a barbecue.

And that's where that story originated.

I think that's Andy, Andy,

I can never pronounce Andy O, Andy.

Yeah.

But anyway, there was some documentation.

Were they eating cats in Hawaii?

I don't think everybody was eating cats, but I do think that there were people who came from countries that had customs that suggested that if you see a duck or a goose,

or maybe a stray cat, you have a right to barbecue it.

I think.

Bear game, literally.

And so they said that was sick and racist, but what is sick and racist is taking a traditional community and dumping 20,000 Haitians from a failed state and then making no effort to warn the inhabitants, to give them extra monies for integration and assimilation, and then to expect that if people in Haiti have destroyed their country,

And everybody has a responsibility for their own country.

And then if you take the people who destroyed the country and you take them out of the country and you don't change them or assimilate them, why would they not destroy your country?

It doesn't make any sense.

And now they have this epidemic of car accidents, petty crime, overburdened social service, just what you expect.

It's happening here in the southern San Joaquin Valley and

southern southeastern Fresno County.

Same thing.

Here's

another one of these stories, Victor, is just reported today in upstate New York.

A legal migrant, I hate to call him

legal alien, murdered

a family of four in,

well, I can't find the town, but this was a month ago.

Guy shouldn't be here.

Another four dead people.

This is so staggering.

It is so staggering that Camilla Harris.

and Joe Biden deliberately with Mallorca's open the border.

And remember, Joe Biden in 2019 said, Hey, if you're going to come, it's okay.

Come.

He invited them in.

And

then,

after it was all solved in 2020, after all those court decisions, after all those cherry-picked judges that tried to stop securing the border, after all the people in the DOD, Secretary of Defense, would not help secure the border, after all those trips and Joe Boy and Trump did with Albador to say, you know what, if you don't stop and you get all of that and finally, in the last six months of his administration, they had a secure border and then they handed over

to them and they deliberately stopped the wall, stopped stop and release, stopped refugee status must be applied in a foreign country.

Yeah.

Kissed up to Obador, invited people in.

and overwhelmed this country that was, you know, $36 trillion, $35 trillion dollars in debt and now we're going to spend billion hundreds of billions of dollars on this problem and we are not going to get uh

electrical engineers or mbas or cancer researchers as we do from taiwan or south korea or india no that come legally and under audit we're going to get generations of people dependent on government largesse and they're going to be spoon fed from the left so that they continue that dependency that requires more taxes, more government.

They're going to be spoon-fed that this is a systematic racist country.

And

at some point,

everybody should understand we're only 330 million people.

They have 1.4 billion Chinese.

And they are surging ahead of us on military technology, space technology,

energy technology.

And they don't do things like this.

And

even Europe doesn't do, I mean, they're trying to stop it in Europe and Australia tries to stop it.

We don't.

You just can't open your borders and bring in millions of on-honored people from the poorest places in the world and have the host hate itself and then instruct them that they're supposed to adopt that anti-American attitude.

And I've seen it my whole life.

And I can just tell you when a person crosses the border illegally and the first thing they do is break the law, then the next thing they do is break the law they have a law-breaking attitude that the laws do not apply to them whether it's hitting somebody and then running from the scene of the accident or driving without insurance or going to the local food supermarket and pulling out five EBT cards in different names.

That is the pattern of behavior that starts from the initial crime.

And she, remember, said it was not a criminal statute.

It was a civil.

That was all.

We can sue you if you come over to our border, but we're not going to arrest you.

That would be criminal.

And that's what she said.

It's so sad that

what I'm trying to say is

they must know

that their policy, their ideology, their principles don't work.

If they didn't believe that, they wouldn't be abandoning them for 90 days.

She knows that open borders don't work, or at least that most people don't want them.

They work if you're trying to create calamity.

Yes, maybe they do that.

Which is the Marxist

principle.

Yeah, your point is well taken.

She's not complaining they don't work.

She doesn't care if they don't work or she prefers they don't.

But they know that the majority of Americans do not want what they have to sell.

They're not buying it.

They're not buying Afghanistan.

They're not buying the Middle East.

They're not buying the border.

They're not buying the critical race and DEI and critical legal theory.

They're They're not buying the Inflation Reduction Act and all that stuff, the welfare state.

And so they have to,

for 90 days, say that we agree with you, people.

We never did any of that and we oppose it.

And then they're looking at us and they're saying,

this is what they're thinking under their breath or muttering, you stupid SOPs, you're so stupid.

We fooled you in 2020.

And now we're doing it again and you're falling for it.

And as soon as the sun rises, as sure as the sun rises, as soon as we get this darn election over on November 6th,

you're going to be surprised what we're going to do to you because we're going to open that border wide open in our last five months.

And I'm going to really open it wide open in my four years.

And I'm going to make you sell your assault weapons if I can get it through Congress.

And I'm going to have a wealth tax.

And I'm going to have a tax on unrealized income.

And I'm going to raise the federal income tax.

And I'm going to raise, you won't believe what I'll do, the inheritance tax for you rich fat cats.

And that's what's going to happen.

And we're just sitting here watching it.

And I get so tired when I think about all this.

And then I meet one of these people who comes up to me at an airport or somewhere or somebody where I work or somebody writes me an email.

Well, I read what you said, and I...

I agree with some of it, but I just can't vote for Trump because he's so uncouth and crude.

And that's not going going to be in my name that the Republican Party

would actually follow such a cruel, mean, heartless person.

So I'm going to,

I don't know, I might write in Nikki Haley or Ron DeSantis, or I could vote for Harris just as a protest.

And I always say this, you're an idiot.

You're going to vote for socialism.

You're like a stupid French aristocrat who thinks that Jacobins, you can work with Robespierre, or you're a stupid aristocrat who thinks you can, in 1917, work with Lenin, or you're a stupid, you can't work with hardcore communist leftist ideologues.

And that's who's behind all this.

Yeah.

Or you can be Dick Cheney and supportive.

But hey, Victor, we'll get your thoughts on some more of this related stuff, hate this stuff, important matters.

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Victor, a couple of things.

You and Sammy talked the other day,

podcast I think came out

Friday, and

you were trying to find a French phrase, and listener

Barry wrote, he said, Jack, kindly inform Sammy and VDH, the expression is lesprit descar.

It's a spirit.

That's what I was thinking.

It's a spirit, not the candle or the light.

The spirit in the stairway, the spirit of the stairway.

Staircase wit, I think.

Yeah, it's in Diderot's

dictionary.

I remember that.

What's his name mentioned at once?

I said, I remember Charles Kraudheimer was commenting on a politician once that

actually

said things

that he'd said in a debate, but he didn't say them.

And Krautheimer said he's suffering from the staircase syndrome.

Yeah, if only I had.

Hey, another thing.

I think, not to correct you, but Tim Walls as governor, I think has actually,

I don't know that he vetoed anything.

I think he has

tabled it.

And no, I think

I don't mean veto.

He backed that legislation about abortion.

Yeah, I'm sorry.

And in Minnesota,

I think they were keeping some records that he stopped keeping the records because it was embarrassing.

At least seven, eight, nine

of babies have been

victims of infanticide.

I don't mean veto.

I think what I was trying to say is when that legislation was going forward,

he made efforts not to block it.

Yeah,

Because the legislation

was not to stop that.

The legislation, I mean, it wasn't from the right that was saying,

it was from the left to preempt the right and say, we're going to pass a bill that says if a baby is born, there's no rules that can stop a doctor from killing it.

Yeah, this goes deep in the party.

You know, Obama, when he was a state senator in Illinois, he was on the committee that

fought for that.

He himself fought for that.

These people are

death.

It's a culture of enjoy this present life, which is the only one we have, we think.

And there's no afterlife.

There's no God.

It's just materialism.

And you have to...

get as much fulfillment, whether that's psychological, educational, careerous, material, as you can in your brief span.

There's nothing else here.

And the only religion we have is we have to find evil, wealthy,

privileged, elite people like ourselves, but who are not enlightened like ourselves who are trying to stop.

And we have to really get after them, guillotine them.

And we don't have time for children.

And if we do, we love sex, sort of.

And if we have, we have to terminate them.

And we don't believe that breeders in red states are the American ideal.

The nuclear family with two to three, four kids.

No, no, no, no, no.

And that's why we have a 1.6.

And that's why their policies, she keeps saying the middle class, I have a middle class.

I have the aspiration economy.

No, you don't.

You don't.

Your economy is killing, strangling the middle.

They can't, since you've been vice president, the price of homes has increased 20% because of all these regulations and your higher interest rates.

They don't want people to,

you know, their idea of somebody 21, 22, 23, getting married, 24, 25, two or three kids, 26, 27, buying their starter home, 29, 30, moving to a bigger ranch-style suburban home, three kids, mom has, or the dad stays.

It doesn't matter.

One stays home, takes care of the kids, and one works part-time.

The other parent works.

They don't like that.

No, no, no, no.

Yeah.

Not that I beg to differ, but it may be worth a longer discussion on another episode about this culture of death because,

yeah, part of it is hedonism, but the vanguard of the proletariat of these Marxists, they do enjoy blood.

I mean,

how many dead

citizens are you?

No, it's funny you said that.

A woman came up to me

last night.

I spoke at a very wonderful group of people,

Cattlemen's Association, Paso Robles, and they were just wonderful people, about 250 of them.

And my wife and I drove over there a couple hours for the evening.

I've always loved Pasarobles Hills, temple tents, a beautiful place.

It's about 30 miles from San Luis Obispo

and over the mountain from Cayucas and Morrow Bay.

One of the central coasts is the people there are very different than the Bay Area or Monterey Bay or LA.

They're just wonderful people.

And not that the other are not wonderful, but they're just average upper, I mean, they're just, I don't mean average, but what I mean is they're accessible, they're normal.

And it was very wonderful.

But one woman came up to me, a very bright woman, and said, you know,

I don't know if you know this, but if

they win, And given what they did with the collusion and the laptop stuff and the lawfare, they're going to go after a lot of people.

And i believe that because that'll be the idea that we've we have won now twice in a row and we've seen what merit garland went after parents uh on school boards they go after anti-abortionist

latin mass attenders yes we've seen dei

They have people that are really, really, really want to go after conservatives.

And if you're a prominent conservative, they're going to go after you.

They really are.

And I'm speaking from personal experience as I keep whining as a victim

that when they go after you, they, you know, like the Stanford Faculty Senate goes after you and they can't find anything.

Or you want to go to a studio and just go on a network, and they try to bar you from the studio of your own university, which you're, you know, a tenured member.

That's nothing to what they're going to do if they get elected.

They don't believe in democracy.

They really don't.

That's why they say democracy dies and darling.

That's all projection.

They really do to weaponize the CIA, as we saw with the laptop authorities, the FBI under,

I guess going back to Mueller or Comey, McKay, Ray,

the DOJ under Garland and under Eric Colder, they use that to punish people.

And they're going to really go after people who were critics.

I'm convinced of it.

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quick thing on, you mentioned George Stephanopoulos before, and,

you know, this is like Lucy holding the football for Charlie Brown with conservatives.

You remember when, this is not political, but you remember when Peter Schweitzer went on and interviewed

on ABC to promote this book?

And he was going after the Clintons, how the Clintons abused their foundation.

And

Stephanopoulos was attacking him.

And of course, he didn't admit that he himself,

Stephanopoulos, was a donor and had relations with the Clinton Foundation.

Of course, he did.

There's just no way to engage with these people in any way, whether it's electoral politics or book promotion, et cetera, where they're not going to stick it to you.

So

one other thing, Victor, that you had brought up before,

if we could just get a little more your thought on this, is the

Kamala's claim

that no American is serving the board

in danger.

And here's from today's New York Post.

Again, we're recording on the 15th.

It says, as many as 50,000 U.S.

service members patrolling countries and oceans across the Middle East and Africa are receiving either hostile fire or imminent danger pay, monthly payments that are up to 225 for troops deployed in areas where they could easily be subject to or do come under enemy attack.

That's 50,000 people.

And it is, I think, I've looked at this tending map: 21 countries.

And of course, then you have all these waterways, you know, the Arabian Sea, the Red Sea, Gulf of Oman, et cetera, Persian Gulf.

So that's just a staggering lie.

And And still months, bare months after these Americans

were killed and many wounded in Jordan.

Remember, when she lies, when she lies, how do we know she's lying other than we know the facts

contradict what she's saying?

She's always emphatic because she always wants to demagogue to a left-wing audience.

So when she wants to say that she's going to ban fracking, she said, let me make myself clear.

I will ban fracking.

No doubt about it.

Or she'll say things like,

the Border Patrol, let's just,

I don't know, start from scratch, get rid of it.

Or she'll say about private help, let's just move on from it.

And

when she said that, about, she said, like, there are no currently active

U.S.

troops in hostile combat areas something like that and she doesn't care she doesn't care about those guys that are fighting she never did she doesn't think you can see that with the whole when she was bragging about afghanistan she said

three prior so uh

presidents wanted to get out joe biden did i supported it and you know

when trump replied, it doesn't do any good to just say that was the worst thing in the history of the United States.

It was a disgrace.

No, it doesn't do any good.

Donald Trump's, if he's going to win this election, he's going to have to be detailed.

He could have said, listen,

you left.

He did try to say it, but he screamed it.

He said, you left $50 to $60 billion.

People cannot afford a truck in this country.

You left 60 or 70,000 of them to terrorists.

As far as these weapons being inoperable, they weren't.

We've seen the Taliban, their helicopters flying in celebration over our Humvees.

You're talking about

banning assault weapons.

You said it again.

You left 400,000 semi-automatic or automatic weapons in the hands of terrorists.

They're all over the Middle East now.

Don't tell me that that was a wise decision.

We had an air base, Kamala.

It's called Bagram.

We spent $300 million fortifying it, improving it.

I know you guys gave away a billion-dollar embassy.

I know your gender studies program is gone.

I know your pride flag was ripped down.

But we had that airbase, and that was the biggest airbase in Central Asia.

And we could have controlled the airspace

on the Iranian, the Russian, the Chinese border in a time of emergency.

And it was fortifiable.

It was not in downtown Kabul.

And we could have negotiated.

And what you did got a lot of Taliban people executed and butchered for helping us.

You got a lot of contractors stranded.

You got 13

Marines murdered.

Don't tell me that that was a success or it was a time to do that.

We could have found a way to get out of the Afghan war by building down and protecting our troops gradually and then having an air base there.

for the next decade if we wanted to.

So

she doesn't care.

She really, I don't think everybody has to understand that.

These people don't care about these soldiers out

in the middle of nowhere.

And Trump did care.

You can argue with Trump and said that

he shouldn't have wanted to get out of Syria and Iraq.

He wanted to to pull them home.

But the point was he thought the money and the risk wasn't worth the benefit.

And he could bomb the SH, as he said, out of ISIS without putting a bunch of American troops on the ground.

But they're there and they need our support.

And when she says they're not there, then she's either ignorant or disingenuous or both.

Yeah.

Victor, let's get domestic here and

talk about

Aurora.

So here's a piece in City Journal, which by the way, folks, City Journal, it's one of the best publications in America.

It's quarterly.

Of course, they also have a great website.

It's the

journalism arm of of the Manhattan Institute.

Chris Ruffo writes there a lot, and he wrote a piece recently,

Chaos and Aurora.

And here's just one quick passage, Victor, and then your broader thoughts on this.

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Victor, one last thing.

Donald Trump was speaking this weekend at a rally in Nevada, and he says he is going to liberate Aurora and create a task force that is going to aim at crushing foreign gangs, which are

all across our fruited plains.

Now, Victor, your thoughts.

It's everywhere.

I mean, here in California, we have the, I think it's called the Senaloa cartel.

I was talking to another person last night and said he was driven out.

of a coastal town whose name I won't mention because of this, I guess they call it the Pacific or the Guzman organization.

And these are Mexican gangs that have taken over basically cities.

Here in Fresno County and the rural town of Mendota, the M13 took it over.

And they had to have special federal troops and undercover in

association with local law enforcement to finding, you know, go and have a huge, almost army-like raid to get rid of them.

And you can't get rid of them.

There's been murders in Visalia that are drug-related.

When you have these open borders, the people who are

profiting to the billions of dollars are the drug cartels because these people are coming across are the mechanisms by which they import fentanyl and other drugs, opiates, cocaine, heroin, you name it, methamphetamines.

They're coming in through this huge influx and the people can pay for their transit fees by doing it.

And nobody cares.

They don't care about this administration, does not care about 100,000.

I know that the left has mock outrage.

So if you say that to them, they say, how dare you suggest that we don't care?

How dare you?

Remember how Biden?

How dare he do that?

How dare he?

Yeah, don't do that, Joe.

We know exactly what you're doing.

For cheap political advantages, you're letting 100,000 people be killed by overdoses through drugs that are deliberately manufactured to mimic prescription drugs that are illegally used or off-label used or other drugs that are not toxic.

And you know that, and yet it's not an issue to you because you think they're killing, they're not killing, I guess, people who are important in the bicosta elite.

I mean, think about it, if you had about 20, God forbid, of the next generation of the elite that died of an overdose, it would stop immediately.

It would stop immediately.

Same thing about illegal aliens.

I haven't followed the illegal Canadian alien, have you, that attacked Paul Pelosi?

But

I think they threw the book at him, as I recall.

And

there's been a lot worse than that, and they're out on the street.

And

not in the streets of Martha's Vineyard or Rehoboth Beach, but other streets.

I know that they demissed a prior.

I don't think they said he was attempted murder, but they threw the book at him.

Yeah.

Well, Victor, we have

I think he was sentenced to 30 years.

I really do.

I think I remember that.

And think about that for a minute, everybody.

Sure.

You have an illegal alien that breaks into somebody's house and has a criminal assault,

and you sentence him to 30 years, what he deserves.

And then you have people all over who are here illegally.

They're hitting people, shooting, and they're out right away.

But if you think that a federal liberal judge in San Francisco was going to sentence that de Pop or DePape or whatever his name was to the same type of punishment that they accord other illegal aliens, and he was here illegally, I think he'd overstayed his visa.

You got to have your head examined.

He had a 30-year

federal prison sentence.

I think he's in prison right now.

And he should, but but they don't accord that severity to people who don't count.

If you firebombed in a George Floyd riot, nothing happens to you.

14 people.

And if you walked in the Capitol,

you're in prison on January 6th.

So, you know, whose ox is gored?

No, I know it.

I know it.

I know it.

And she said that about January 6th.

That was another thing that got me about the debate.

You encourage that.

And he tried to say, well, I said peaceful and patriotic to assemble them.

Whatever the wisdom of that was,

if you're going to commit an insurrection, are you egging on an insurrection?

Are you egging on looting and arson and violence, which did not occur, the looting or violence or, I mean, there was violence, but not arson or murder.

But if you compare those May, June, July, August, September, October riots of 2020 and the 14,000 arrests and the 35 to 40 killed.

And Donald Trump was right when he said they occupied a large swath of Seattle downtown.

They fact-checked and said that was wrong, but it wasn't.

She said that was not true, and it was true.

But my point is, if you're right in the middle of that, and right after they've burned the St.

John's church or tried to torture, they did burn it, but they didn't burn it down.

And they've tried to storm into the White House grounds and get to the president, and the president's in a bunker and the New York Times said he was a coward to go in the bunker remember and you compare that to that buffoonish riot and then you have somebody like Harris saying these riots will not stop she didn't say that to the crowd she got on national TV said these riot these demonstrations excuse me not riot these demonstrations will not stop They should not stop.

This is a movement.

It's going to go.

You better get used to it.

It's going to go on and on.

She was so emphatic.

And Snopes and all those fact-checkers said, well, she wasn't talking about the violent elements.

No, there was no distinction at that point.

Anytime that there was a quote-unquote demonstration, it led to a violent manifestation.

She knew that.

That was right after some of the worst violence.

She said that.

She was.

She always doubles down.

Everybody should remember that.

When she said

it won't stop, it should not stop.

It will not.

She said that about three times.

And same thing about fracking, same thing about,

remember Al Sharpton looked at her at his

grifter organization and said, will you sign if a law comes into your desk?

I will sign reparation.

I will sign reparation.

Now she's against reparations.

She always grandstands and doubles down on it.

That's why it's going to be, that's why it should be hard for her to disown.

And it wasn't a casual misstatement.

It was always emphatically expressed.

Well, Victor, we're coming around the home stretch here and we have time for one more

topic.

And there's some,

there's an it was an incident in the Boston suburb the other day.

Of course, it deals with anti-Israeli intifada

counter-protester.

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So if you're on X, used to be known as Twitter,

follow Victor.

So Victor, Bill Jacobson at Legal Insurrection.

I'm friends with Bill.

I'm actually on the advisory board of Legal Insurrection.

He's a professor, a law professor at Cornell.

And he's been running this.

He created this site.

It's been up about, I don't know, a dozen plus years.

He's a special guy.

I really like him.

He posted something the other day in a video.

It's Massachusetts Intifada Self-Defense Case.

And he writes this, when the

anti-Israel psychopaths march on campuses and in cities chanting, globalize the Intifada, and there is only one solution, Intifada revolution.

We all know what that means.

It means the sort of violence and intimidation we have seen in the United States since October 7th, and which they are threatening to escalate.

It means what just happened in Newton, Massachusetts, a suburb of Boston, where an anti-lunatic, anti-Israel lunatic viciously attacked a peaceful pro-Israel protester, Iraq war veteran Scott Hayes.

Victor Scott Hayes had a gun on him, and he was attacked and he shot this SOB.

And he will become, I think he will become a pinata for the Massachusetts

criminal.

Yeah, I mean,

it's going to be Rittenhouse Redux, right?

Because to the degree they can ban weapons through legislation or the courts, they do.

But to the degree they can't, what they do is they focus on anybody who uses a weapon, not a criminal, not a felon, not an ex-felon, not somebody illegally in possession.

They don't care about that.

What they do care about are people who have legally registered firearms, who use them to protect themselves.

And they feel that if you go after that person, in this case, a person, I watched the tape, the guy was on the other side of the street, and he was

provoking, provoking, and then he dodged through traffic and went over and tackled him.

And these people were desperate to get him off.

I think three or four people were trying to yank him and hit him to get him off.

And then we don't know the circumstances of the use of the firearm, but apparently it was a legally registered firearm, and it was a clear case of self-defense.

And by that, I mean most of the state statutes that I have read said that it's perfectly legal to use a firearm if it's legally registered in your possession to prevent bodily harm to yourself from an aggressor.

Where it gets murky is

at some point in the altercation, if the person has backed off or if there is no longer a physical threat, you cannot use that gun in a retaliatory manner.

This man didn't.

He was on the ground and being clobbered.

And yet by doing this and having them go, the state going after them, they send a message to all of us and they said, you know what?

We understand this little epidemic that all you right-wingers are doing by buying arms, but what good's it going to do you?

We try to have a shortage of bullets, and we try to make you register bullets, and we try to make them so expensive you can't buy them, but some of you still get them.

But you know the next thing?

Try to use that gun against

a protester or a person on the left.

If this had been a Klansman, they wouldn't have cared, or even any conservative protester.

But this guy was a pro-Hamas person, so he was a protected species in their view.

Anybody who's left-wing is a protected category species

genus from those people.

And so that's it's very effective at what they're doing.

They send a message:

okay, you have the gun, it's legal, you can protect yourself, but that's not the end of it.

That's the beginning.

You're going to go to court, you're going to have to use law bills, you may get convicted, you may

face civil suits, and you are going to be in a a big city with a liberal jury and a liberal prosecutor.

Look at Trump.

That's what we're going to do to you.

That's the message.

Yeah.

Well,

yeah, I would recommend folks

go visit Legal Insurrection because

if they say they're going to stay on top of something, they do.

They were actually with that baker case out in the bakery in Oberlin.

That was one of the worst things that I've seen in this country in a long time, the way that Oberlin went after that poor bakery.

And one of the guys, the older,

the

bakery died.

He died in the process.

He never got to see justice, how they destroyed it, all because a bunch of thuggish students went in and shoplifted, and they happened to be

in some cases non-white.

And so to try to protect their inventory, they stopped them or called the police on them.

And the next thing they knew, they were facing a false charge of racism, a systematic boycott, and the college efforts to destroy them after generations of wonderful service to the students.

Well,

the administrators who left Oberlin all found jobs in other academic institutions.

Oh, yeah.

That's always the case.

That's the way it works with the left.

You get fired from one place because you're a liability, but not a liability because of what you did.

Not a liability because of your ideology.

You're a liability because the press sees it and they're worried that independent or conservative donors will,

I don't know, think that they might not want to give as lavishly as they have in the past.

So what you do is you fire them, but you call up your whole network and the bicolster elite and said, John Smith, we had to fire the guy, but you know what?

He's just what you want, man.

He's a DEI advocate.

He went after these white racist bakery owners.

And we had to let, you know, we would have kept him, but the publicity and the lawsuits and our lawyers told of this.

But man, if you want a really strong progressive fighter, you better hire this guy.

And that's what they do.

They all land on their feet.

Well, Victor, we've come to the end here.

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I truly appreciate you and your courageous voice.

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So that's thank you, you, Dave.

Yeah,

I'm looking out at our almond orchard, and the harvest is over.

The dust is cleared.

My only complaint is that we are saturated with dove hunters, which I used to be in my youth, but I haven't done it in 30 or 40 years.

But man,

I'm looking at my lawn and then the almond orchard.

You know what I'm seeing on my lawn?

What?

10 or 15

morning doves, and they're all like saying to me, Man, we made it.

We flew into your compound.

We evaded every type of 12-gauge gun on the borders of your place.

All of our friends have been shot and killed this morning.

Your dogs are hiding because of the noise.

And we have your lawn to ourself, and we're going to feed here in our sanctuary.

Thank you, Mr.

Hanson.

You have a morning dove sanctuary.

Are morning doves

a problem?

Why are they targets for hunters?

Everybody eats them.

They eat them?

It's like dove season, quail season.

It starts September 1st.

But the problem is as the farms are encroached by city people

and there's fewer and fewer places to shoot.

And there's less and less farm acreage.

And they don't want to drive 50 miles out to the west side where it's open expanses and it's corporate farms and you'll get in trouble.

They are well patrolled.

They just get on their camouflage.

They get a couple of shotguns.

They get in the truck.

They drive out.

They look around.

They drive.

They don't ask your permission.

They go into an alleyway on your border.

They sit there and camouflage under a tree.

Doves fly over

and they're usually, I don't know why, on the west side where the wind comes from.

So they shoot.

And then they think, ah, it's just a shotgun.

But man, you put a high-powered

load in it, you know, and if it's a 12-gauge and you shoot at a low angle at a low-flying dove, well, we're only about 150 yards from the,

and you get a wind and they can hear this stuff hit the top of your, and I have solar panels.

I've had a couple that have been shot out.

And, you know, when you go over there and tell them, I mean, I walk every morning, but when you turn the corner, you don't know if a low-flying dove, you know, has been going at tree tree level and they're going to shoot.

And so it just kind of, you know, and I stopped too, not too long ago.

I saw, I asked them, please, to leave when I was walking in the morning.

And their attitude is, well, who are you to tell us to leave?

And I said, well, you're trespassing.

Well, someone has said that we could, I asked these other people and they said we could hunt.

Yeah, they said they could hunt on your place, their place, not mine.

Well, we're right on the alleyway.

So there's an easement here.

You're right on my half of the alleyway and you're shooting right toward my house.

Oh, so what does that mean?

That means you please go away.

When you're talking to somebody with camouflage and a bandolero with shotgun shells and they have an automatic 12-gauge Browning shotgun, what are you going to say?

Right.

You know what I mean?

You don't want the argument to escalate.

No shame.

Yeah, well, there's no idea of private property anymore.

Everything is communal.

I'm serious.

I mean, mean, it permeates from the government.

You don't really own this.

We're living in town.

We don't have access to 45 acres.

You get to have it.

You have to share it.

You don't hunt doves.

There they are.

We want to shoot them.

So why are you being a bastard?

Yeah.

You didn't build that.

Yeah,

that's a good point.

And that socialist message really affects private property.

Man, when I was a little boy, we were free-ranged.

You know, I swear my parents at six and seven said, okay, now put your shoes on, Vic, Alfred, just guys go out and explore the ranch, stop by your grandparents for cookies and ice, you know, milk.

Go say hello to Emmanuel, the hired man, but do not, do not, do not go on this neighbor, this neighbor, this neighbor, this neighbor's property.

You stay within our borders.

That's called trespassing.

That was like,

to this day,

I walk on a former piece of property that my family owned, you know, but it's rented by an absentee loaner, and I just do it to check on it.

If I see a broken hose, I fix it or something.

And I know some of the rent, but I feel odd just walking on it.

You know, there's nobody there.

It used to belong to my family.

The renter is a great guy.

The owner is, I've never seen him one time.

He's from Los Angeles.

And I'm just doing there.

if I see a hole separated and there's a flood, I always fix it.

Or if I see a bunch of bottles in the road, I'll kick them to the side.

But

I get kind of weird thinking, uh-oh, this is not my property.

Yeah.

And

they have no idea of that.

The people from town.

None, none, zero.

They just come on your place.

And if you try to confront them,

It's like, and then there's the other category, just to digress, and that is not the professional hunter, or at least who are professionals in some sense.

But I'm talking about the teenager with a raid, not of shotguns usually, but of, I don't know, AR-15s or 222s or 243s,

and anything that moves, they'll shoot.

Red-tail hawks, turtles, anything.

And when you confront one of those guys with a gun, that is scary.

Yeah.

So

it's not Green Acres.

No, it's not.

It's not.

I mean, everybody said, oh, you're getting, I was talking to a person who was telling me the same thing about having a cattle ranch last night and people shooting,

hitting cattle, you know, deer hunters.

Oh my gosh.

Oh.

And

deer hunters and stuff.

And we were just talking about the 60s and 70s, not the cultural revolution, 60s, but just rural life,

late 50s, 60s, 70s.

And you can't talk about it without some leftists saying, well, that was a period of racial discrimination.

And that's why you

know,

it was in a lot of places, but I've mentioned that before.

There were

black families that I knew that everybody admired and were fully integrated.

And same thing with the Hispanic family.

This myth that it was just horrible in California.

And you need, that's not true.

But my point is, what is true is there were no locks on the doors.

There were eight buildings on this place, and I don't,

they all are locked up now.

There was not one key.

There wasn't even a key in them.

And my grandparents didn't even have, I mean, once they were going to Yosemite for three days, and they were frantic because they thought in the late 60s they should find it, if they could find the key to the house.

They never locked it.

They never locked it.

They would go to town and leave it wide open.

And that was the way it was.

And so we've lost a lot of that.

And when you want to try to bring it back, people always say, you know, you got to, what she say, move forward.

We're moving forward, not looking back.

I think, I think, Kamala, you should look back.

I don't think we want to move forward with more of the open border or more of Springfield or more of Aurora.

Let's just go back a little bit, you know, just a little bit, like 20 years.

Yeah.

Free Obama.

I was at an event.

Let me, maybe we can end on this.

I was

on Friday.

I was in Washington for the unveiling of A Soldier's Journey.

That's the National World War I Monument that Sabin Howard, the sculptor that you had on this podcast a few months ago, it was unveiled.

And it's beautiful, as was discussed, and it's inspiring.

So I think looking back 100 years to the bravery and efforts of

our great-grandparents and grandparents in World War I

will be inspiring to us for the future.

That's certainly how the monument itself has been designed to be contemplative, but also inspiring.

Yeah, I mean, that's one of the reasons I got really angry at the Darrell Cooper World War II guy on Tucker.

And I have a, by the way, I have a 10-part series that starts next week.

It's not so much about Daryl Cooper, but it's about

the revisionist school of World War II and why it's wrong.

And when I saw that World War I monument and I was thinking, my grandfather, Frank Hansen, he didn't bother anybody.

He was

guy was 28 years old.

And the draft board told his father, Nels Hansen, a Swedish immigrant,

you've got one boy and he's old, but we need him.

And then the other younger two can stay.

So he went over to France and he had phosphine and mustard gas and he was never the same.

He got gassed.

He was in a hospital in Belgium for a year.

It ate out a large part of his stomach.

He swallowed food that he was lost.

They were separated from their unit and he ate poison gas food and the fumes ate his stomach and it destroyed two-thirds of his lungs.

And he was disabled the entire time.

He had a Lewis machine gun.

He was a machine gunner and he was also a teamster.

He taught black troops.

They assigned him to have segregated troops, which he really liked.

He said they were some of the best teamsters and horsemen he did.

And then as the war heated up, they had to go into combat.

He did.

So my point is, and then the person, as I said, that I'm named after, Victor Hansen, killed on the last day of Sugarloaf Hill, 29th Marine Regiment, 6th Division.

Last day, he was shot in the thigh and bled to death.

And then my father, I don't think, was ever the same.

He flew 40 missions plus over Tokyo in a B-29,

shot down three

fighters, crashed twice, or emergency landing in Iwo Jima.

All of them were that way.

So then to read about this,

that the war was just cooked up by Americans and Churchill was a traitor and a terrorist and we had no business over there.

They didn't, I mean, if they hadn't, if Americans hadn't gone over there, it wouldn't have been a free France and they were going to overrun France.

And that was a good thing they did.

And the same thing, and that's what my grandfather told me.

He said, the nicest people in the world were the Belgians.

They kept him alive in a hospital.

And

my father said, you know, I wasn't bothering anybody.

We were all on this little farm in Kingsward, California, Victor and I.

And all of a sudden,

nobody had ever been to college, and we were two big Swedes.

And Amos Alonzo Stagg at University of Pacific offered us one scholarship for tight end, one scholarship for wide end.

We played football for UOP,

and then we enlisted in the Marine Corps.

One of us was transferred to the Army Air Corps.

And next thing we knew, one of us is dead, and the other one is almost killed.

And we have no complaint.

That's what we did.

We helped save the world.

And then they read this armchair blogger, you know, that it said they're all stupid dunces.

It reminds me of that guy.

I'll just finish with this.

Remember that scene, Jack?

And

it was the guy who played Roy Coffey in

Sheriff Roy Coffee and Bonanza.

I think his Sheriff Coffee, I think his name was Teal, Ray Teal.

And that wonderful

Dana Andrews has been

remembering and poor, the guy with no hands, the real actor that suffered that injury.

He's talking to this guy come in, and it's the same actor that was in Bonanza.

I think his name is Teal.

And he says, you were suckered.

You don't know what was really going on.

Basically, it was that revisionism after the war that we should have stayed out and let, you know,

should have never won a war that the Soviets won too.

And then Dana Andrews hits him, you remember, and he gets fired?

Yes.

That type of thinking is what this Cooper is the same thing.

And that guy got very angry.

I got very angry, too, when I read that because it was.

All those people I grew up with and my first, my mother's first cousin, my first cousin, he was one of the nicest people I ever met, Belton Cather.

And he was in the Philippines campaign and got dinghy fever and

106 temperature and he had severe brain damage.

And he was disabled the rest of his life.

He was about 90 pounds.

And he would ride this big heavy bike with a little horn.

a balloon horn and he would ride it from Selma all the way out to the ranch every morning.

He had lived in a one-bedroom apartment, a house.

Somebody went into a room.

This was in the 50s and 60s.

And then he would hit the horn really loud as he came in the yard.

We'd say, Belden, Belden.

And we were like six and seven, and he would talk to us.

And he lived here for a while.

But

all these people's lives were affected, ruined, hurt, sacrificed.

And it was for a cause that was good.

It wasn't just.

a bad cause.

That's why I really resented that series and I wrote about it.

Yeah.

Well, anyway, suckers, there are others that think

we're suckers today.

So we've talked about that.

Well, anyway, Victor, you've been terrific as ever.

And folks, visit Victor's website, victorhanson.com, the blade of Perseus.

We'll be back

in two days with another episode.

So thanks for listening and God bless.

Bye-bye.

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