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So Victor, we've had a lot of things happen, especially just recently.

I was wondering what you thought about, because as everybody knows, Elon Musk and Donald Trump had a conversation, I guess you would call it, and there's been lots of commentary on it, but I noticed that our

never Trumper

Bill Crystal had a tweet and it says, I've got to say the spectacle of Trump and Musk, two repulsive and mediocre oligarchs fawning over themselves and each other, bring out the inner social Democrat in me.

What are your thoughts?

I'm coughing and laughing.

I know a little bit.

I used to know Bill Crystal.

I had dinner with him once or twice.

There's two ways to evaluate this.

Number one

is

Bill is commenting on two other people in a different field of politics and industry, and he's labeling them mediocre.

So then we have to adjudicate whether they're mediocre or not.

And then we have to judge Bill in his field.

And then we have to, second, compare them in the general human experience.

So let's go.

So Elon Musk is an entrepreneur.

Let's judge.

So SpaceX is essentially created the largest rocket in history,

Dragon 2 or whatever it is.

And he may have to save the U.S.

space program's astronauts.

We don't know whether it's going to happen or not, but they're stranded because this huge conglomerate, Boeing, couldn't pull it off and get them back.

So he has the...

the most impressive private record of sending satellites up and back.

No other person can do it like he can.

Not Bezos, not anybody else, not NASA.

He's got two or three

artificial AI companies.

So he's right in the pack of this new breaking field.

He took a huge hit

and bought Twitter, completely renamed it, refashioned it, and said anybody could go on.

Everybody said it would collapse.

He made a mistake, but he basically said the FBI is not going to go on twitter and try to suppress the news by using social media agents

and he's got the ire of everybody the more they hate him the more they use it

and then most importantly it was canonical that you could not break the big three gm

ford you couldn't do that and then chrysler fiat ram whatever you want to call it so what what did he do he made an electric car nobody could do it gm couldn't do it the Volt was a disaster.

So he brings this Tesla out.

And I think the Y model is selling almost 500,000 units.

It's like number six in the nation.

In California, it was the best-selling car, I think, in 2022, 203.

And he, of all the car makers in the world, he's in the top 10, I think.

How could you do that?

So he is a Renaissance man of our age.

He's got a drilling company that drills, you know, under Vegas, the boring company.

Okay.

So he is probably, as I said, the greatest Renaissance man of his age.

Then you've got Donald Trump, the only man who's been nominated three times for the Republican Party.

He came out of nowhere.

He had no Republican or Democratic establishment help.

They hated him.

He had a very successful four years.

I could go on, but Trump is obvious.

So here you have Bill Crystal saying, you people are mediocre oligarchs.

Okay.

They're not, Bill.

Whatever you think of their politics, they have done more than anybody else in their respective fields.

And then we look at you.

You were a child of privilege.

Your father was a brilliant guy, Irving Crystal, brilliant.

And your mother was a brilliant historian, Gertrude Himmelfar,

historian of Victorian England, cultural historian, very excellent.

They both lived a long, fruitful life.

You were an only child.

You were introduced into the world of intellectualism in New York and the the East Coast.

You had every opportunity.

Have you ever written a book on your own?

Just one book.

I'm not talking about editing or co-authors.

The Weekly Standard was a good project.

It failed.

It's gone.

You, I think you created the project for the new American Century in 1997 or eight with Robert Kagan, who's a very nice person.

I met him.

I worshipped his father, Donald Kagan, wonderful man.

But what did it do?

You wanted to invade Iraq under Bill Clinton.

I mean, it was, I mean, I supported the war in Iraq, but in 1998, to preempt and take out Saddam,

and

that collapsed as well.

And then

you basically said you were going to start this 2015-16 never-Trump thing.

And you even talked about David French, all these candidates that you anointed, they all failed.

Nobody, it didn't work.

And then the Never Trump movement had no effect in 2016.

The only reason there is something called the bulwark your platform

is because you went over to the left and you refuted everything in your entire life that you supported.

Conservatism on social issues.

You were the one that, as Dan Quayle's chief of staff, helped to stop this single payer socialist medical program.

You were the one that always railed that we had to have more defense.

You were the one that said less regulations, lower tax.

All of that is out the window.

Why?

It's because of your bruised ego.

So what I'm saying, Sammy, is that in comparison with Bill as a public intellectual in his field, and he was also a New York Times column.

I think it lasted only a year and they fired him.

And compared to the other people in their field, it's not even close.

So why would you say that they're mediocre?

And then it says it's bringing out the social Democrat in me?

No, no, it's called the left-wing opportunist Democrat.

And then on a wider scale of, you know, human achievement, does anybody think that what we do, pinned it, what I'm doing right now, or I've written 27 books.

Do you think that compares to what Donald Trump has done to change the nature of the Republican Party and make it into a working populist party or to have a

administration for four years where there was no optional war in the Middle East, or to get rid of solomania in Baghdadi, or to make sure that there was no war against Israel, or no invasion of Ukraine.

Compare that to what a public intellectual does?

You know, I would say I have been as successful as you, Bill Crystal, but unlike you, I can tell you that Elon Musk is a Renaissance genius.

And in comparison to what I do or you do, we're nada, nothing.

So, and then whatever you think,

just because you don't like Donald Trump and just because you on high from Olympus said that I'm the head of the neoconservative public intellectual consortium, and I hereby announce that he is taboo, and no one listens.

No one listens.

And then you get so obsessed, and you just get obsessed, and then you flip your entire political credo and become over there.

And then you take money from all these left-wing people that you preached to millions of people with big megaphones, usually by subsidized

think tank.

And you told everybody that the conservative way is the only way.

And that

if Donald Trump had said, Bill, come to work for me.

Would you have done this?

So it's a bruised ego and it's really depressing to see somebody who was so influential out of personal spite and pick just

say the most outrageous thing.

And it's a social democrat is a European socialist, you know.

And he should just, he should just say that.

He should just at some point say, mea culpa, credo, here it is.

I now formally renounce everything I used to tell you you had to do to save the country.

I was completely wrong.

I was,

I don't know, Donald Trump,

his candidacy, his election was a road to Damascus.

And now I'm completely transformed and I'm the darling of left-wing money that uses people with a false name, conservative.

I am not a conservative.

So if you think I'm going to be a conservative and get all your left-wing money and then therefore influences conservatives, I can't do it.

I'm a social democrat.

And I'm very envious of people like Trump and Musk that have that audience and that position.

And that's all he has to do.

So it's very sad.

I won't even get into all of the other people that are in the conservative movement.

I don't mind that they're in the, they should just say, I'm not a conservative anymore.

David French is the conservative columnist, and he says, you've got to vote for Harris

because the only way that it'll work, what he's saying is this, you all must vote.

for Kamala Harris because that will repudiate MAGA Trumpism and then the Republican Party will be reborn in the way it should be by Reagan.

Okay, what he's saying is this.

I have been completely ostracized from the Republican Party because I went on a jihad.

I even thought in my enormous ego that I could run for president for a while.

And I completely failed.

They elected him and they've nominated him three times.

And he had a very successful four years.

And

I would like it all to fail so I can get back in.

I want everything to fail.

All you people on the border, I don't care about you.

If it takes a Harris, another 30 million people to come in the United States, or if we have seven wars abroad, I don't care.

That's worth it for me to get, to have you all be disgraced with a Harris win.

So if she comes in and ostracizes Israel, which she will do, and placates Iran, which they do now, and I don't know what will happen in Ukraine, we'll just keep pouring this stuff in.

That's worth it.

And no border is worth it.

No border is worth it.

And abortion on demand is worth it.

It's all worth it to get this Republican mega destroyed so I can come back in.

And what he's not saying is, if you look at the positions of the Republican Party and you look at the positions that Donald Trump enacted, low taxes, energy development.

deregulation,

deterrent foreign policy, increases in defense, leave abortion up to the states.

You look at all of them, close the border any way you can, despite hostile deep state actors, hostile courts, hostile Democratic Congress.

Nevertheless, close the border.

It's almost exactly what the Republican Party is, except for two or three issues.

Donald Trump does not want to privatize Social Security.

He does not want to cut it.

He may have to, but that's a difference.

And he believes in reciprocal tariffs.

But you know what?

Reagan did too.

And so did George W.

Bush.

Donald Trump doesn't want to slap a 10% tariff on everything.

He wants to punish the EU and China when they are being asymmetrical.

So I don't see how he's such a radical.

So I don't think this is really about, I want Harris to win, whether you're Crystal or French, because

Only that way will the Republican Party come to its senses.

Because

it's almost identical, except maybe you could say, I don't like Trump, the messenger.

But it's a way to get back in because they are completely ostracized and they're in this embarrassing position for advocating the most left-wing candidate in our history, really, of the last 70, 80 years, as a way to show people that I'm really hurt and I'm angry and I'm obsessed.

And no one listens to me.

So I want to punish you all and do what little, and it is a little, I can to discredit the Republican Party and the conservative movement.

So then you'll come and say, please, David, please, Bill, come back and save us.

We were brainwashed by Donald Trump.

And this is, of course,

the Democratic Party's changes are not mentioned, Sammy.

If you want to look at a radical party, go look at the 92, 96 speeches at that convention by Hillary Clinton, Chuck Schumer, Bill Clinton.

Man,

close that border.

No illegal immigration.

We're going to pump more oil.

We got to help the unions, the middle classes.

That's all gone.

It's all been taken over by Woke, AOC, the squad, Elizabeth Warren, you name it, anti-Semitism.

They were giving speeches about how they had to stand solidly with Israel.

Do you think a Democratic politician could ever say that and have a future and a major role in the Democratic Party?

Ask Josh Shapiro.

So that's all I'm going to say about that.

Yeah.

You know,

it's crazy how they destroyed their own careers and obliterated their past over Trump.

I agree with you on that.

But if we could just turn to the interview itself, did you have some thoughts on the Musk-Trump interview itself?

Yours, Your Honor?

Somebody is advising Donald Trump to talk more about the issues.

So that interview was two and a half hours, and I watched about an hour of excerpts.

And

he's getting much more issue-oriented.

I know he went off on Biden and all of these other things.

And I listened to his rally yesterday when I was driving to work.

And that was a long, it was too long, but, but, and he did make fun of Camilla.

But most of the time, he was comparing issues.

And that will win him the election.

To the extent Donald Trump says she's dumb, she's stupid.

She can't do a press conference.

That will lose him the election.

If he says, you know, she repeats herself again and again and again, and she has these word salads because as a leftist politician, she always speaks to these left-wing California statewide audiences or the Democratic primary, but she's never been out in the cauldron of ideas.

And if she were, she would have to defend what?

Open borders, abortion on demand, confiscation of guns,

woke military, the the war in the Middle East, the war in Ukraine, the pullout from Afghanistan, in which she said she was the last person.

You could do that.

And

to the extent that he does that and said, this is my economic plan.

Here's the tax rate.

Here is the deregulation.

design.

Here is the border wall.

Here's the end of catch and release.

Here is you have to apply for refugee status abroad.

Here is deportation.

If somebody has been here 15, 20 years,

no criminal record, work record, not on state support, pathway to green card, all that, he could do that.

And if he does that, he will win and he will win big.

If he doesn't, and he goes on to these rambles and he says, you know,

Governor Kemp was no good on Georgia.

Or if he says,

oh, wow, you know, Joe Biden, Crooked Joe, is so, I just destroyed him in that debate.

You know, he doesn't know anything.

He just looks at the camp.

That's ancient history.

The debate is now ancient history.

Joe Biden will not even be in the white.

There is nobody running the United States right now.

Joe is in Delaware.

Edith Wilson,

Jill Biden is communicating with the Obama team, most of whom are now working for Camilla because their useful idiot or their useful veneer Joe Biden is no longer viable.

So they need a new vessel, and that new vessel is equally challenged and very opportune as a way of running running the country stealthily.

So the Obama people and some of their campaign personnel are now working with

Kamala Harris.

But if he does that, and

he will win and he will win big.

And even as, and he's starting, you know what is so weird, Sammy?

Everybody's been writing that and telling him that and he's starting to listen.

So, you know, he's up two points.

in two polls today, nationwide, not just in the states.

So think about that.

She hasn't had a press conference for almost a month.

She's got 120%

great coverage.

She has everybody in on this cabal.

She has raised $400 or $500 million

and she's still behind.

What's going to happen when she has to come out?

Because I say, what's going to happen?

If he gets up to two or three or four points in five polls, they're going to go into a panic and they're going to say, keeping her away from the press didn't work.

We got to put her out.

But if they put her out,

she's been fixated on i can't go out please don't put me out if i go out there they're going to call me a wood cell my cackle will come out what do i do what do i do don't put me out that's her attitude you know it's like a graduate student that says i can't take this qualifying exam and they said well you're prepared no i just can't do it don't let me do it and then they keep postponing i watched that they would postpone the exam and post their thesis i can't get that second chapter and the more you fixate it on it you're never going to do it.

You're never going to do it.

And she's never going to do it if she keeps doing this.

And she'd be much better to put her out there and have a bad, and then keep doing it and keep doing it.

But they know it'll be like Joe Biden.

Joe Biden, they said, well, he'll have a bad time.

Then he'll have a good time.

Then, yeah, he'll have a bad occasion.

And then he'll have a MAGA semi-fascist fan of the opera Adderall fueled.

speech and then they'll go back the way he was.

So if she goes out there, she might have one good press conference and then it will go just like during the primary.

She, you know, she had a good press conference when she said, excuse me, a debate when she said, Joe Biden, I was that little girl that you bust.

You wouldn't let me allow, go to a white, that's, you know, segregationist, and you're a racist.

And they thought that was great.

And then they said, okay.

And then Tulsi Gabbard, she went after Tulsi.

Tulsi sliced her to pieces.

And then the other people just started slicing her because she was the one debate front runner.

And that was it.

That was the end of her.

She pulled out in December before the Iowa caucuses.

So what I'm getting at is the left always is smarter than half.

They always think they've, oh man, we got a great idea.

We took old demented Joe Biden and we put him out there and he's our useful vessel.

And we got Elizabeth and all the socialists, Elizabeth Warren, Bernie Sanders, Pete Budichik.

We all paid him off, bought him off, gave him stuff.

And now it's Joe.

Even though he's never won a primary, he's now our candidate.

And then, oh, wow, he's a useful idiot.

He can just go mumble, and we're going to run.

Well, no, that didn't work.

It didn't work.

He couldn't even do that.

Well, you know what?

Now we're going to change and say

he's non composment.

And our Spiro Agno vice president that we said, you can't get rid of our vessel because there's Camilla Harris.

She's an F.

Well, now she's Cicero.

She's Obama.

And that wasn't that great how we got him off the ticket with that early debate we forced on him.

And now we got got her.

Party line, everybody vibe, cool, she's wonderful.

No, you didn't solve the problem.

She can't do it.

Just like Biden, you just went out of the frying pan into the fire.

And now,

what are they going to do?

Well, she can't do a debate.

She can't meet with, wow, even the left.

And what they didn't understand about the media,

they are, Sammy, they are egomaniac, narcissistic people.

They have to be interviewing people.

What they're trying to tell the campaign, that Jim

Acosta and all the CNN people, Rachel Maddow, why don't you let her, us interview her?

We'll have an interview.

We'll stage it.

We'll give her softballs, but you won't even trust us.

We're getting no attention.

And now we look like toadies and we sold out to you because we're saying how great she is, even though we know that she won't interview.

You've got to let us have some face-saving veneers.

And they won't even do that.

Yeah.

Well, Victor, let's go ahead and take a break and come back and talk a little bit about the polls and Hunter Biden and maybe the Kamala ads that are coming out.

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So, Victor, I know you said that some of the polls are a point up or two for Trump today,

but this week and towards the end, they were talking a lot of the pollsters, and I confess some of these are left-wing, so maybe they're wrong.

But they were talking about the general polls and they were saying, Well, they haven't changed on the economy, domestic security, and foreign policy.

But the third-party voters, which were large and going for JFK or Stein or

West,

they've

abandoned that by half.

So third-party voting has dropped by half because of Kamala.

And the pollster, Frank Luntz,

said that he felt that the little bump to one or 2% that Kamala had for the last week or so was due to that third-party undecided voter making a decision toward her.

And I don't know what you think about that.

It's going back and forth.

It's going back and forth.

But my point is that there's a Dukakis-like similarity.

I remember it.

I just couldn't believe it in 1988.

He came out of that Democratic convention, and they said he was the technocrat.

He was not ideological.

He was smooth.

He could speak so much better than George H.W.

Bush.

You know that?

Bush had that whiny voice and he would thousand points alight and, you know, kinder, gentler nature.

And he was just on message and everybody thought you know he's a massachusetts miracle worker and then they just tore him to pieces in august and they showed who he really was and george h w bush did not make fun of him he just went after his issues card carrying liberal that was kind of a you know low blow like i said card carrying communist but it worked And he went from 17 in front to eight behind.

And he did that in 80 or 90 days.

And that's what they have to do.

And I think they'll do it.

I do.

If Trump follows the script and sticks to the issues and has good people doing the ads, they will do that.

And as far as polls go, you know, Nate Silver, who, you know,

he's a partisan.

He likes the left, but he's also a statistician.

And he said yesterday,

Before you guys get too excited, when you have these polls with she's in some one or two, and then they're even in Donald Trump, If you look at where the polls were in August and you go back to 2020 and you go back to 2016 and look where the polls were exactly this time and the same polls, and then you look at what the actual vote total was when he won in 2016 and he lost in 2020,

they were wrong by a magnitude of three to five points.

And they were wrong.

That's not so important, the magnitude.

It's how they were wrong.

Did any of them overestimate Donald Trump's support?

No.

They all underestimated him by three to five points.

So what I'm getting at, Sammy, is Donald Trump was behind by six to eight points in 2016, and he was behind from three to six points in 2020.

And he won, he almost won the popular vote in 2016, and he won those states that he was supposed to get wiped out in.

And he got within four points in 2020, and he won some critical states.

And

the only reason he was behind by four points was the totals in Illinois, New York, and California that were just irrelevant, but they had these huge popular left-wing mail-in ballot voting.

So what I'm getting at is if he's almost even,

or he is even,

And Real Clear Politics said they're mostly, what, 46-5 versus 46-1, he's actually three or four points ahead.

Now,

I'm not naive.

He's going to need that because when you have 70% of the electorate not voting on election day and you have the federal government under Biden encouraging voter registration of certain types of constituencies and the error rate of mail and balloting has fallen from a traditional 5% of rejected ballots down to 0.3 or 5% in most states, then you're going to need a big margin.

So it's going to be very close unless Trump can be very, very disciplined and show the differences.

And

they need a lot of money for ads.

They need a Lee Outwater type ad campaign to show all the crazy stuff.

Did you see just off topic that video of Waltz during the

BLM and Tifa riots following the COVID lockdown where they had policemen shooting at people on their porch with paint gun?

Yes, I did.

That was horrible.

Did you hear them yelling?

They're walking through.

Yeah.

They were like fascist.

They were like fascist 1930s.

Can you imagine an ad that says, Camilla Harris has picked Tim Wall.

Why did she pick him?

Because she agrees with unleashing the police on innocent citizens and then show that tape.

That would be devastating.

Absolutely devastating.

They should show that 24-7.

These are the types of people who don't respect the Constitution.

And then they should have another picture of,

there's another, a nice ad going out.

I don't know if it's an ad or it's just, I didn't realize how much burning there were the first three days in Minnesota.

They have whole blocks on fire.

And they should just show this.

And then they should have Tim Waltz saying, people like me, i.e.

white people, go after people not like me unfairly.

And then just show the whole city burning.

And then showing Donald Trump saying, we need to get the guard out.

And that would destroy that candidacy.

And I think there's brilliant people around Trump.

And they need to do that.

And they need to get those commercials out.

And believe me, if they do that and he sticks to the issues, he will go up on the polls by 3% to 4% to 5%.

This honeymoon, it'll be a decaucus.

And then if he does, they will be demanding debates and they will be demanding interviews.

And if they're way behind, they'll even want to go on Fox News.

Yeah.

And that will be the end of her.

Yeah.

And that's the strategy.

That should be their strategy.

Tough Lee Atwater ads.

You stick to the issues.

You do not call her dumb or stupid or you don't get in an argument with Governor Kemp.

He should bring Governor Kemp out on the stage with him the next time he's in Georgia.

And he should put his arm around Governor Kemp and said, we had a lot of disagreement.

And I think he did something that that I disagreed with.

And he thought I did something.

But you know what?

We have a lot more in common.

We're going to win.

We're going to help him win.

Georgia, he's going to help me win Georgia, and we are united.

That's what he should do.

He should do the same thing with Haley and DeSantis.

He should get them all out on the stage.

This is Ron DeSantis.

I made, I did a lot of stuff that is tough hardball.

He did to me, but you know what?

It's over.

And he's a great governor.

And so is Nikki Haley.

And we're all going to stand together.

And I listened to them.

And he should do that.

And he would win.

He's got to unite the party.

I think he can do it.

The thing about Trump is that everybody said he's cruel and crude.

He's not vindictive.

He forgives people.

He let, I mean, people were telling him to fire Comey, fire Fauci.

He didn't want to fire people.

And he doesn't hold a grudge.

He never used the FBI.

He never used the CIA.

He never used the DOJ in the way that Biden is doing now.

So he's capable of being magnanimous.

And he should.

Well, Victor, I want to just insert here for your listeners and your new listeners in particular, because

you make it look so easy, but Victor just talked off the top of his head about all those polls and the nature of them and their statistics and everything.

I want you guys to know that that is a difficult thing to do.

And that was very nice.

I'm at my,

I'm on campus at the Stanford campus.

I have to speak, I think, three times today and documentaries.

And I drove over.

I got home from Chicago at 2 a.m.

from the Bradley Foundation,

delayed flight, 2 a.m.

my Chicago time.

And then I drove over here yesterday.

So we didn't have time to talk about this podcast.

But Sammy

ambush me with these topics.

Yes, we'll see if I can keep being ambushed.

Go ahead.

All right.

So on to Hunter Biden.

We all knew it here, at least on the right, that his position in burizma was used,

or he influenced U.S.

policy to get favorable conditions for buryma in the Ukraine.

And so, he was acting as a foreign agent and never registered as such.

But they finally come out with the formal case.

Ah, you used that adverb

finally.

Why did you use that adverb, finally?

What is the significance of them suddenly doing it now?

Joe Biden's out of the race, would be my guess, but go ahead.

Still president, but I guess that.

They still feel that

they're getting a lot of pushback from the Biden family, some people like Anita Dunn, who's now working for Harris.

She's been in a big fight with Pelosi.

Pelosi's gotten kind of shut.

I didn't really mean to

ambush Joe.

Has he talked to you lately,

Speaker Pelosi?

No, he hasn't.

Meaning I ambushed him and cut his throat and pushed him out, threw him over the cliff like my commercial

Paul Ryan in 2012, the way we got rid of him.

That's what they did actually to Biden.

And they're starting to feel bad about it.

So, and they're starting to feel that maybe people think they shouldn't have done it.

So, you know what they're doing now?

They are leaking all of the bad stuff about the Biden family.

And now we suddenly learn that, you know what, all of us that said that Biden, the Biden consortium was crooked and that Hunter was really, when he was, when his dad was vice president, actively shaking down governments with the help of an embassy staff was true.

And now we know it.

Why do we know it?

Because Nancy and Kamala and the people people now running the Democratic Party want you to know that they got rid of Biden.

And

there were reasons that we didn't know about, that they're coming out.

And now guess what, Sammy?

All of a sudden, the transcripts of the Robert Hurd investigations may be, I don't know, they may be available from his ghostwriter.

And I guess you know what?

They released them.

It was so hard to find them.

They couldn't find them.

But somebody found them and somebody has them.

And they're leaking.

And guess what?

Joe Biden discussed classified information with his speechwriter.

And some of those transcripts that Robert Hurr

had compiled from their, or excuse me,

the oral interviews that Robert Hurr had conducted, by which or from which he concluded that Joe Biden was enfeebled old man that would be sympathetic,

that didn't quite look like the transcript that the stenographers, i.e., the Biden team, actually compiled.

And now they're starting to release it.

So we're going to learn that, yes, he is enfeebled, and yes, they tried to cover it up, and yes, he was speaking with a ghostwriter about classified information, which is a felony.

And we knew it all the time.

But, you know, we

knew it, we on the conservative side, but they're basically saying,

well, we didn't get rid of the SOB,

and everybody's mad that we got it because we guillotined him in a very cruel fashion.

But you don't know what we had to deal with.

There was all this documentation we kept with you when we had the narrative that he was fit as a fiddle.

And then we found out that we knew he was not fit as a fiddle, but then we found out it wouldn't work anymore because of that debate.

So now we're going to unleash all the stuff that shows you why we got rid of him.

So you don't think that we staged a coup or that we didn't have to stage a coup.

It's really funny what's going on.

Yeah.

I always want to ask you, do you think the Democrats are flying by the seat of their pants on everything they're doing?

Did they plan this from November?

They're like adolescents.

They're like adolescents.

And they go from one fixation or one fad or one euphoria to the next.

So it's Russian delusion.

Donald Trump is an agent.

He's a Russian.

Oh, he he urinated in a bed.

Oh,

okay, there's no evidence.

Oh, his bank is pinging with

the Alpha Bank in Russia.

No, there was no evidence.

51

CIA has given us information that

that laptop was a Russian.

No, that wasn't right either.

We're going to impeach him for a phone call.

Oh, and that wasn't right either.

Oh, he's indicted.

The walls are closing in.

It's Bragg.

It's James.

It's Willis.

It's Smith.

It's Egene Carroll.

50 years, 100 years.

They're going to...

No.

They shot him.

Hitler, he was almost killed.

Next time they won't miss.

That kind of stuff.

Yeah,

you know,

16 states put him on.

He's off the ballot.

Can you believe it?

So that's what they do.

And

now it's...

The king is dead.

Long live the king.

Biden, he's fit as a fiddle.

No, he's not fit as a fiddle.

Okay, okay.

Well, we couldn't use Harris because we told everybody that she's like Spiro Agno Insurance that Nixon used.

But now she, but

now we need her, so we're going to recreate her.

Okay, call up Rachel Maddow, call up all CNN, get the narrative out there that she's brilliant, she's vibed, she's cool.

Yeah, but we've got the same problem that Biden can't speak because he was demented and she can't speak because she never could speak.

And she's not demented.

It's not COVID.

Okay, okay, go back to the tripart thing that worked before.

You remember in 2020?

It worked, it worked.

We had three strategies.

We kept Biden in the basement.

We didn't let him talk.

And then we made him old Joe Biden from Scranton, who was no longer against fracking and was going to unite us.

And he was a moderate.

So she's going to stay in the basement.

And she's going to be a moderate.

And the third part was we relied on 70% of the people not voting on Election Day because we changed the rules.

Did they change them back?

So it's still viable.

She stays in the basement.

She's a good old moderate from San Francisco.

A little harder, I admit.

And we're going to count on 70% of the people without ballot IDs or identification, mailing in or early voting.

And that's what they're going to do.

But my point is they just go, they make it up as they go.

And then they get everybody to follow the party.

They're like Pravda.

You know what I mean?

Grechnev one day can't even walk on the dais.

And they say, bold, muscular

Comrade Brezhnev was looking at the May Day, and then the next time he falls over, and they don't know where he is.

He's resting and developing strategy against the capitalist running dogs, and then he's dead.

And they said,

Comrade Brezhnev was not in good health, so we have a brilliant andropov or something, or Cherniko or something.

That's what they do.

It's just to change the party line from what they have no long-term belief other than power.

They're like little kids.

They really are.

And I'm not saying they're not effective because they have a lot of power.

They've got Silicon Valley, Wall Street, professional sports, entertainment, the foundations, K through 12, all of the academic university communities.

So they've got a lot of power, but they don't have the people.

People are getting, they don't like their message.

It's social, it's contrary to human nature, and they know that.

That's why they're opening the border.

Yeah.

Well, Victor, let's go ahead and take a break and then come back and talk a little bit about Kamala Ads.

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The recent ad for Kamala says that she, and I'll quote a few things from it, and you can let me know, says that she, quote, spent decades fighting violent crime, quote, took on drug cartels and jailed gang members, quote, backed the toughest border control bill, and finally, quote, plans to hire thousands of border agents.

What do you think of that ad?

Will it be effective?

Well,

it didn't work with Dukakis.

They said, you know, you've been against every dense defense appropriation there has been.

You were one of the people who said there was was no really Cold War.

You were a Jimmy Carterite, you know, no inordinate fear of communism.

So we're going to put you in a tank and run a commercial.

And it's going to show you, you know, and the controls of an Abram tank, Warrior Dukakis, George Pat,

George, not,

you know,

George.

What do you want?

Not Michael, but George Pat and Michael Dukakis.

And it didn't work.

So I don't think that's going to work.

Everybody, all they have to do is run one ad with that swarm coming across and then having her quotes when she says basically that the Border Patrol should be abolished, you know, start from scratch, get rid of them, ice.

And then she have another quote under the picture of all the swarms saying, how dare you say Merry Christmas when these young basically illegal aliens, they don't have Merry Christmas.

And then basically telling everybody that the Border Patrol was whipping people and it reminded her of slavery.

Just keep doing that and run them and that'll be the end of it.

But

don't

Donald Trump, I know you don't listen to this, but do not say, she was awful on the border.

She's dumb.

She can't even do this.

You know what?

That laugh shows you she's insane.

She's crazy.

That's a crazy woman laugh.

You don't need to do that.

You need to analyze how that is true because what you said is true.

But by asserting rather than proving it, all you do is become become an ad hominem attack dog.

So you want to analyze it.

You could say something like,

when somebody tries to flip entirely their ideology and try to get a big screen like their big brother in a Norwellian novel and say, this is true, and when you know it's not, then they have affectations.

They can't pull it off.

They start laughing out of...

out of place, out of time, in an embarrassing fashion.

So if you think that Camilla Harris tragically keeps repeating herself or she starts laughing, it's because she doesn't know what to say.

Because her agenda that we have suffered under for three and a half years and which helped destroy California cannot be presented to you honestly and transparently.

Because if it was, you would flee.

You would want no part of it.

So she is going to copy Donald Trump me.

She is going to say that there are no tips on service workers.

She's going to say we've got to drill, baby, drill.

She's going to say she was tough on the border.

She's a prosecutor.

She went after.

We know that's not true.

And here's why it's not true.

She supported a bill in California that said if you were

$950

theft, you don't have to be a felon.

The worst prosecutor, the biggest George Searles marquee leftist, socialist prose was George Gascon.

They ran him out of San Francisco.

He went down.

She endorsed him.

She endorsed George Gascon.

She did.

She went to Minnesota while it was burning and offered to bail out people and help bail out felons, apparently so they could go do it again.

Now, I know the facts checkers are on their side, and they say she was not talking about violent demonstration.

But after Washington went up in flames, she was vying to be the Democratic nominee for vice president.

And what did she do?

She went on Colbert.

I guess it's CBS late night.

And she said, these demonstrations are not going to stop.

They shouldn't stop.

They're going to keep going.

Beware, American people.

Beware.

They're going to go all the way to Election Day.

They're going to go after.

Why did she mention Election Day?

Why'd she warn us to beware?

She knew they were violent.

So that's her record on crime.

And if he just quotes her and says, I would have to laugh too, like she does.

I would have to flip-flop.

But I'm not, I'm authentic.

I may be crude.

I may be mean sometimes, but I am trying to stop this socialist revolution any way I can.

And I know that sometimes I'm rough around the edges, but I don't know how to stop this unless I'm honest.

And with me, you get the authentic Donald Trump.

I'll wear a tie and I will have my orange battan, and I will have my comb over, and I'll have my black suit when it's 110 degrees, and I'm in front of a black audience, a southern audience, a New England audience, a Latino.

I will be authentic and the same.

You know what you're going to do.

You may not like me all the time, but I will not modulate.

I will not change my accent, my appearance, my rate.

I won't do that.

And that will ensure you that when I say this is our agenda, that's what it's going to be.

But I've got to break through these institutions in any way I can.

So if I'm a bull in the china shop, Tom Time, give me a little indulge.

If he just did that, people would really resonate.

They really would.

They would like that.

I think so, too.

Yeah, it would.

He never changes the queen's accent.

He never does.

Camilla Harris has got a southern patois when she's among black audiences in the south.

Hillary did it.

I'm so tired.

I've come too far.

Remember Obama?

You know, hey, folk.

And then, you know, she said, you all.

Camilla Harris.

It's

pathetic.

It is really pathetic.

You know, I guess it would be like I'm dressed in Selma and I'm talking with, I don't know what accent I have.

People say it's a San Joaquin Valley, no accent.

And I guess I would go up to Stanford and I arrived here last night and I'm going to, I see these professors.

Hello, this is Victor Hanson.

And it's really

problematic and ambiguous.

So I don't want to weigh in, but it concerns me and I have issues with it.

How I did that.

And then I went back and I saw Jose and Emmanuel and everybody that I see.

And then I said, hey, how are you guys going?

Is everything going okay?

You know, I'm back here.

What would people think of me if I did that?

And what would they think of all you people listening if you did that?

And you don't do that.

So why would you elect somebody who does do that?

Well, she's not just fake, but she's either a hypocrite before with all the policy she supported, or she's a hypocrite now by saying she's switching policy.

Yeah, he did.

He Donald Trump, and I was driving yesterday through Gilroy,

and it was pretty a lot of traffic near commute time.

So I had a lot of things I didn't want to, you know, obsess on the traffic.

So I was listening to Trump, and he kept saying, you know, that she's

she's flipping and she's copying him.

Yeah, but he could go even further and say her whole lifelong agenda and ideology was hard left.

And she always did not just support hard left, but she was emphatic.

She doubled down.

When she says she's for fracking, she says, absolutely, I'm for fracking.

When she said that she's not going to prosecute illegal aliens or that they're not really, no way.

She always did that.

And then she flipped for 90 days.

So it's 90 days, Kamala.

But you and I know that if she were to be elected, she would do two things.

A, she would flip back to being the left-wing person.

And B, she would be so angry that she had to fake it for 90 days, that she wouldn't just flip back.

She would try to prove to you that she was left-wing in excessive degrees.

So she would be ultra-left-wing to make up for this 90-day aberration.

If you don't believe me, look at Jimmy Carter, look at Barack Obama,

and look at Joe Biden when they got elected.

And did anybody think that Joe Biden was going to let 10 million people in immediately?

I did, but a lot of people said he was going to unite us.

I talked to people I really like, and they said, Well, I'm sick of Trump.

He's going to unite us, and there's going to be no more conflict.

I said, No, it's going to be hard left, hard, hard left.

The Obamas are going to,

and you know, that's what happened.

Well, last thing then, speaking of

bad things things about the Democratic campaign, we have her vice presidential nominee, Tim Waltz, and we have new things out this week about him, that he has a strong relationship with the Ayman Assad Zaman, who started a school and infused Islamic

idea

that was against federal government and he was receiving federal government aid.

And then the second thing before you go on is there's been a lot out about the amount of time he spent in China between 1989 and 2007.

30 times, over 30 times.

Yeah.

I think he honeymooned in China, maybe.

I read that too.

Yeah.

Yeah.

That would be like Bernie Sanders.

I think he honeymooned in Russia.

I don't know.

I mean,

He has, they've got his little advisors and they're telling him now,

we got to get an, you know, you've lied so much.

You lied about your rank.

You write about your retirement.

He even issued gold, I mean, those coins, you know, those commemorative coins with him having a command master sergeant that he never really was permanently when he retired.

He put that on Braun.

And then he said he carried weapons of war.

He didn't.

He said he was deployed.

He said he was on Bagman, but he probably was a dignitary visiting.

He wasn't, he implied that he was in service.

And he's, when he says he was deployed in Operation, well, I went to Europe.

That's like, you know,

I was kind of embedded twice in Iraq.

And that would be say, well, you know, I went to,

I don't know, I went to Edwards Air Force Base, so I was embedded.

You know, it's just, it's, so what, how do you deal with those lies?

And now they're saying, how dare you make fun of the military?

I'm not going to apologize.

I was proud.

That doesn't work.

They're saying, we're trying to defend the military.

That's why we're attacking you for being a pathological pathological liar and a faker and a hypocrite.

And you appropriated things that you didn't do and that you tarnished the reputation of the military and you put your own brigade at risk.

You really did because you abandoned them when they needed it, when they were deployed and other people took up the slack.

And so we...

these critics in the military, J.D.

Vance included, and most prominently, he's been very effective.

We're trying to save the military's reputation from people like you.

So don't say that when we criticize you, don't hide behind the military.

So that's what he's trying to do right now.

And says that anybody who attacks him is attacking the military and then by association unpatriotic.

As far as China, we know that he was fascinated with China.

And I don't know what degree he thought he was going to have intellectual or educational or entrepreneurial or profitable relations with him.

We probably won't find out.

The biggest,

I think the biggest liability of him they really need to dwell on is his

governance during those riots when he let that.

There was a grandmother yesterday who testified.

He just destroyed, they just burnt, they destroyed her business.

Why not sent her to jail for that?

You know what?

I would be very honest.

I would say this is what Tim Waltz did.

I would show the whole city going up, and then I would have a cut where he's bragging about this Islamic leader and introducing him.

And then I have a quotes in the background of him.

That would be about one second to show you what he really thinks about radicals.

And then I keep the background going the whole time.

And then I'd have a quote from Donald Trump, get the National Guard out.

And then I'd have a quote, a

Chiron on the bottom with his wife saying, I open the door so I could smell the burning.

And then I'd follow it with another Chiron with his daughter saying, I can guarantee you, protester, i.e.

rioters, that you're not going to have the National Guard to contend with tonight, i.e., go ahead and riot because I talked to my dad and he's going to let you riot for another three days.

I would just have that, the whole thing.

And I think

he would be Lee outwatered if that happened.

I don't know what's going on, Sammy, because I don't know whether they've got these ads and they're going to saturate this, because I'm not in a swing state.

So I was in Wisconsin for two days, and I looked at TV.

There's no ads yet.

I guess they're waiting to the traditional start of the campaign, which is Labor Day.

But I hope they've got a whole repository of these ads and they've got Lee Outwater type brilliant people making them.

And they're saving $300 or $400 million for these nine or 10 states to saturate the airwaves.

Things like I just talked about.

And

I'm not saying me.

Everybody's talking about how vulnerable these people are if you have a good ad campaign.

The ad campaign is one third of the campaign.

The other third is getting out in rallies and interviews and hammering her record.

And the other third is the debates.

He's got to have at least two debates, and they've got to be before early voting, which starts in about two weeks in some states.

And Donald Trump cannot wing it.

He cannot just say, you know, I'm a natural debater.

I never, I never, he doesn't want to overprepare.

Reagan did that once, and it was not good.

But

he needs to have practice debates where somebody goes in and baits him and tries to make him lose his temper, calls him names, calls him a criminal, a felon, an insurrectionist.

And then he just needs to very calmly have a line like Reagan.

There you go again.

Are you done yet?

Are you done yet?

I thought you could do better than that.

Of course you're going to say that because you have nothing other to talk about.

And the reason you don't have anything other, because 10 million people crossed the border with your sanction encouragement.

And because when I left, the inflation rate was one decimal point two, 1.23.

You got it up to nine.

And staples, gas, insurance, food, rent, et cetera, energy,

put it all together, it's 20 to 30 percent higher than when I left office.

You destroyed the middle class.

That's what you did.

And just do that.

And he will win a debate.

But not if he just goes, ah, you know, I killed Biden.

It was just senile.

He didn't know, you know,

she's dumb.

Look at that cackle.

She's insane.

That's not going to work.

You need that 2% to 3% of independents that want a reason to vote for.

Trump because they're afraid of the socialist Biden, Harris agenda, and they know what it'll be when she's more radical.

See, Harris is more radical than Biden, and Waltz is more as radical or more radical than Harris.

So you're talking about force multipliers if they win the Senate and the House.

And it's going to be very close for both.

And that's what he needs to say.

He does.

And Donald Trump also has to have a,

he's got to realize that it's not about him.

He represents.

half the country and half the country is saying, I woke up today and I can't,

I don't recognize it.

I don't recognize these filthy, dirty streets in the major cities.

I don't recognize these homeless people.

I do not recognize the smash and grab.

I do not recognize this carjacking.

I don't recognize San Francisco people on motorcycles humiliating a policeman.

I just saw them doing, you know, wheelies around a cop trying to intimidate her.

or him.

And I don't recognize the country.

I don't recognize what happened in Kabul.

That wasn't the United States.

I don't recognize Blinken and

Jake Sullivan begging the Iranian.

I don't recognize not wanting to help Israel fight our common enemies that blew up Marines 40 years ago.

That's not the country.

What happened?

And those people want to vote for, and they're not hardcore conservative.

I talk to them all the time.

I do.

They write me a letter and they want to vote for Trump.

I don't agree with them on most things, but you need them.

You need them.

Yes.

You know,

I hope everybody doesn't get depressed because I'm not depressed.

I'm very optimistic.

Ronald Reagan, in the last Gallup poll

in mid-October, about two weeks before, I know it might have been an outlier, he was about eight points behind Jimmy Carter in 1980.

He really was.

And if you think it was a done deal with Mondale, in February and March of 1984, there were polls that had Mondale even with Reagan because of the Reagan so-called recession.

But the economy in the last three quarters grew 7%

GDP, and that's how he destroyed him.

And when Reagan had that one debate with Carter, when he talked about Amy and I and all that stuff, and he said, there you go again, people had it.

They wanted to make up their mind.

They were tired of Carter.

They were tired of the hostages.

They were tired of the inflation.

They were tired of the whiny Malays kind of how dare you speech like Biden.

They just wanted to be reassured that Reagan was okay and he wasn't the nut that everybody said.

And then when they just shrugged about the last five days in 1980, they said, you know what, I'm done.

I can't take it anymore.

I don't want to hear Carter.

I got tired of him.

I'm going to vote for him.

And that's what they did.

And they did the same thing.

With Dukakis.

They said, you know what,

I like the Reagan administration.

I'm just tired of of all this stuff.

And they voted for Bush by almost eight points.

Same thing with McGovern.

And that was a blowout.

And they'll do that.

If you have a good ad campaign, you have a good debate, and you stop the ad hominem invective and talk about the issues and then be candid about yourself.

And that's very important, Sammy, that Trump says, Yeah, you know, I'm a tough SOB.

I realize that, but I'm trying to break through the iron dome of the media-DNC fusion, and I don't don't know how to do it.

I'm like a missile that's trying to get in there, and I got a hard nose on me, and I've got to get through there.

And I'm going to try my best to be pleasant and polite.

But these people have a vision of an apocalyptic vision for America.

And I'm your attack dog, I guess.

I don't like to play the role, but I'll do it if it's the question of saving this country.

If he did that, he would win, and he would win big.

And I still think he can do it.

And I think in the last week or two, he has the ability to win by seven or eight points.

I really do.

And along that line, all of those things.

Plus, we've got to win on the ground with the voters and getting out the vote.

And

to preview Saturday, we will be talking about a

Biden executive order 14019

that

requires government agencies to get voters.

And, you know, anybody that depends on a government agency tends to be in our system left.

So we have states that are filing a lawsuit against him using the government to get left-wing voters.

It's very important, but remember, everybody, whether we like it or not, this election is going to be

decided in about nine states.

I think, unlike 2020, I'm very confident that if Trump

publicly, I know that he privately is reconciled with Kemp, but if he brings Kemp, swallows his pride, brings him on stage, puts his arm around him,

I don't mean, you know, abases himself, just say, we had our differences, I was kind of tough, he was kind of tough, but my God, we unite about our opposition to what Harris is going to do to this country.

He'll win Georgia.

And he goes to Nevada.

There's a lot of Hispanic.

service workers.

The tips help.

That's why she copied him.

They do not want to vote Democratic.

He can win Nevada.

Arizona is going to be tough, but he can still win.

And if he does those three states

and it goes, you know, they're talking about, oh, we can win Florida or Ohio.

No, they can't.

The Democrats are not.

Ron DeSantis has done a wonderful job.

They're not going to win Florida.

They're not going to win Ohio.

Vance is going to stop that.

But it'll be one of the...

He just has to win Pennsylvania.

Of those three swing states, Pennsylvania's got the most most electoral votes, and that's where he can win.

They had a governor who was, what, anywhere from 57 to 63% approval.

He was young.

He was well-spoken.

Everybody liked him.

The people around him liked him.

Josh Shapiro, he would have had a lot of the Jewish community back on board after being aware of the anti-Semitism.

Semitic nature of the Democratic Party.

A lot of donors

in that corridor from New York down to Palm Beach, a lot of the Jewish American donors were willing to come back, all of them.

And what did he do?

He snubbed him and humiliated him.

And he picked a guy who was of no value as far as Minnesota.

Trump may say he's going to win.

He's not going to win Minnesota.

And so that was a done deal.

And then they got this guy they didn't bet.

And you know what?

He's not.

Remember, they kept saying, why are they saying he's cuddly and nice and masculine and the old-fashioned ha?

No, he's not.

He's herky jerky.

He's bombastic.

He's a blowhard.

He gets on the stage and he gets kind of reckless.

You know what I mean?

He starts waving to everybody and he points to people in the audience and he does a little prayer and he bow.

He's just kind of nutty and he's not very bright.

Compare him to Josh Shapiro.

If he had done, I was just assuming that I thought it was 50-50.

I couldn't figure out whether the anti-Semitism anti-Semitism was stronger than self-survival, but apparently it was.

In other words, the Democratic Party would rather be anti-Semitic than win the election.

So that was a gift to Trump.

Had they picked Josh Shapiro, we would be talking in very pessimistic terms right now, because Pennsylvania

is the key state.

And I think Trump can win it.

I think he can win it by four or five points.

I think he's going to win it because if you were Josh Shapiro, would you really, really, really, really want to call donors and get everybody galvanized so that you can help this anti-Semitic ticket and this buffoon that took your place?

No, you wouldn't.

And would you really, really, really want her to win for the next eight years or have them implode and show the world what anti-Semitism does, the Democratic Party, and then, like Phoenix, rise out of their ashes?

Yes, you would want that.

I'm not saying he's going to do that.

I'm thinking that's in the back of his mind, and that's going to help.

And Donald Trump,

I think he's got a good chance of winning Pennsylvania.

I really do.

Yeah.

Well, Victor, we've got to go.

We've got to go.

I've got to go do, I've got to go to work.

Yeah, so everybody join us on Saturday because we'll be talking about the Kabul parade and Israel and foreign policy.

Yes, the Kabul Kaparade.

Excuse me.

I wrote something before I leave.

Sammy, I'll leave it with you.

Yes.

He should do this.

Commercial.

Kamala Harris wants to take your so-called assault weapon.

She just means a semi-automatic that people have had for years.

She wants to take it.

When she was asked, she said, are you going to take them and force people to sell them back to the government?

I don't like the word back.

The government never owned them.

And she said, yes, mandated.

And take a microsecond split.

And you show all of the weapons.

that were left there in Kabul.

400,000 semi-automatic, brand brand new American rifles.

And then they just say, she wants to take guns from Americans that are protected by the Second Amendment.

And then she gave 400,000 of our guns to terrorists and show them waiving them.

That would be a great commercial.

It would be a great commercial.

Well, the last thing, too, I'd like to apologize to the audience to the extent you heard large machinery and dogs barking here.

We are at the end of harvest.

Victor is not here, but we are still out at the studio.

So I apologize for that.

I hope it didn't didn't

interrupt the podcast too much.

So thank you, Victor, for everything, and thanks for our listeners.

Okay, thank you.

This is Sammy Wink and Victor Davis-Hanson, and we're signing off.

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