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You know, Victor, I should note that today is that

the podcast is out on is the 15th, and that is a

holy day in the Catholic Church.

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bodily assumed into heaven.

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Otherwise, it's a mortal sin.

So I just want to.

Yeah, you

miss a holy day of obligation.

You don't have a good reason.

You, I can't.

Can we condemn you to purgatory?

I think it's the elevator goes further down on this one

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So Victor,

I wanted to start off.

This is a topic I've put off.

We never got around to it.

We didn't have the time for a couple of two weeks or so.

And there was a piece in the

Daily Signal.

which the Heritage Foundation publishes, and it had to do with the economy.

And it came out the day after the stock market declined over a thousand points, which was drastic.

But this is a deeper look into the problems of

the American economy.

And, like, okay, oh, the unemployment rate's only 4.3, etc.

Okay, those are not bad numbers, given how the numbers were in our own lifetime.

You know, 15% unemployment.

We've lived through that.

Let me just read this from the piece.

The particularly troubling decline

has been a 2.4 percentage drop in the employment to population ratio of young Americans ages 20 to 24.

It was in February 2020 68.2%

and now it's 65.4%.

This loss of 500,000 workers ages 20 to 24 is even more problematic when factoring in a 1.3 million decline in college enrollment since 2019.

The author goes on to say, idleness during the prime years of gaining education and experience can have lifelong consequences.

Economic studies show that long periods of unemployment have lasting negative impacts on workers' opportunities and earnings, their physical work capabilities and stress levels, and even their fertility.

Long periods of unemployment and idleness also increase the likelihood of spending a lifetime on disability insurance instead of working.

Victor, I think this is a crisis.

I do too.

And I've talked on this podcast that

in my immediate family and larger circle of friends, there is a particular profile of a young man between the ages of 23 and 40.

And

they are not getting married.

They are not buying a home.

Of course, they're not having children.

And they are largely responsible for this precipitous drop in the fertility rate.

And I think every family, if you're interested in this question, just take your parents

and then your siblings and say, did you, say if there's two of you, did you have four

grandchildren from your parents?

And if you had four grandchildren, did they have eight?

And did they have 16?

And when you do that, basically, two, I don't think you're going to come out.

I looked at mine and it was just, it was like 1.2.

So

it's a problem.

And and there's a lot of statistics that we don't talk about.

In addition to this alarming rate that we have this lost generation who's not working, we have a lot of other really disturbing things that no one's talking about.

One of them is that for all the Biden talk of jobs, and they had a pretty depressing job

report this month.

this quarter, I should say.

And

did you see this statistic that more

foreign nationals were employed

recently than American citizens?

And if you go back to the beginning of the Biden tenure, you have almost no increase in the actual job rate of American citizens.

And most of the new employment that they're boasting about came to foreign nationals.

Which I guess means that of the 10 million people they brought in, maybe half of them are working.

I don't know.

But that's disturbing.

Another disturbing statistic is there's 17 million out of 330 million, not a lot, but 70 million people who have long COVID and are not working.

I tried to, I haven't taken a day off when I had that for one year, nor this 11.

Right.

But I only say that not to brag, but because I was fortunate enough to have a job.

where I had to, I can work from home or I can drive over to Palo Alto and walk around and talk.

But boy, when I see people out yesterday shaking almonds in a machine for 12 hours, or I see people landscaping and mowing, and I see plumbers and woofers, what do they do when they get this stuff?

Because I can tell you, you can't walk hardly, and you're dizzy, and it gets worse if you don't take some time off.

And so there's 17 million of them.

And

what would you do if you were a nurse?

And what would you do if you were a cook?

And so it's something that, you know, the government really needs to look into.

And they really need to look into who

is

why American citizens are not taking jobs and why foreign nationals are.

And

they need to look at males, mostly, not all, but it's mostly males.

who are not plugging into the workforce.

And there's a lot of explanations.

Is it all of the propaganda about toxic masculinity and they just retreat to their video games?

Is it that it was the COVID thing that created this

disenchantment or disconnection?

Is it that lectures that we all talk about, toxic masculinity, that these males are predators or whatever we say?

Something's going on.

Because they do not want to get up out of bed at five in the morning and say, you know what, I'm 22 years old.

It's about time for me to get married.

I'm 25, I'm going to have a child.

27, hey, I'm going to get that house of mine.

I know it's almost impossible.

But we need to, I think Donald Trump is doing a really good job.

He's trying to address it.

He's trying to say, we're not going to talk older people, tax Social Security.

We're not going to tax tips.

That's good, as long as he says that he's going to pay for it.

And he said, there's a lot of ways to pay for it.

And he mentioned Anwar, but you know what?

With all due respect, when you look at the extra

2 million barrels a day, even if the price was up to $100, I think it's about $76,

and you do,

I don't know,

2 million barrels extra a day for a year at 100, you don't, we owe so much money now is what I'm trying to say, Jack, that the $1.3 trillion interest on the debt, not counting the 36 interest debt, we just don't have the money to do it.

And so when he says he's going to cut taxes, it's great, but he's got to come up with where does the money come from?

Unless he thinks that it's a stimulant.

And so all these people like myself that are over 65 that are on Social Security, I'll be 71 in three weeks.

I guess we're all going to run out and say, wow, I don't have to pay a third on Social Security.

I'm going to go buy stuff and build stuff and enlarge the economy, maybe?

I don't know.

And that new revenue will make up for the revenue that's lost when I don't have to pay taxes.

But they've got to come up with a responsible adult way of for every time they cut something,

excuse me, they add on or they cut a tax or they add on a benefit that it's balanced with the revenue sufficient.

Yeah.

And if they don't,

we're not going to make it.

We're insolvent.

That last piece of what I read about the disability, to me, that's the glorification of disability.

It's like the golden ticket.

And I used to be on a housing authority in my town, and it was public housing for the poor, which is its own issue, and senior housing.

And then senior became senior disabled.

And what does disabled mean?

You know,

it could be a 50-year-old with multiple sclerosis or cerebral palsy.

Okay, that's disabled.

Or it could be a 28-year-old with

a drug problem and that's disability and you get housing and you get a government.

Well, Social Security has got a huge attention deficit disorder type disability for children.

And that was never intended.

And that's a very problematic diagnosis.

But

the state and the government discourage employment.

Right.

I, you know, I grew up and born in this farm, and I had three children, and my twin brother had four,

and my first cousin who lived here had three.

So we had 10 bodies.

And we were not supposed to allow those children to work until they were, what, 16?

And you can get around that by having them.

quote unquote work on the yard.

For example, I'm looking out right now my almond orchard.

I had two acres of tomatoes there, right?

Two acres, that's a lot, maybe three.

And we had organic tomatoes, no pesticides, no chemical fertilizers, manure, maybe

sulfur once in a while for mildew.

It was a high maintenance, high attention crop.

But those kids kind of ran it.

We just said, well, they're just working in the yard.

And they were, gosh, my daughter was 16 years old.

And

we didn't have any money.

We bought an old Bell telephone.

When they broke up Bell Telephone, they sold off all their old vans.

And the thing had about 150,000 miles on it.

And

they would put

3,000 boxes in there.

Of tomatoes?

Damn.

Well, 3,000 pounds of

300, maybe 6,000 pounds, which is way overloaded.

Yeah.

of tomatoes, but we added plums, nectarines, apricots, apple pears, you name it.

We had all these organic packages.

And my daughter was, she turned off.

She took my son, her cousins, they all on three or four of them, they would drove up Pacheco Pass in the evening, and then they pulled into Monterey or pulled into Santa Cruz, and then they put their tables out and sold it.

And then they would come and then during the week in the summer and on vacation, they would work.

And my youngest daughter would come in.

She was covered from head to toe with red paste.

tomato paste.

She was always working in there.

We call her

tomato Susanna.

And And she just, she was seven years old and she was out there sorting tomatoes.

But that was good for those kids.

Right.

And it created a work ethic.

It was really good.

And that's what we did.

And I don't,

I don't think people realize that agriculture and family farm, even.

farming, even if it isn't as efficient as corporate farming, it has some social benefit for society at large.

It creates stable families.

It creates a work ethic.

People who live on their farm are very careful about pesticides and their water because they have to pump their water right beneath their orchard.

And it's a good thing.

And it was wonderful for raising these children.

But

once you leave the farm and you plug into the wider culture, the messages are different.

Right.

You know, do your own thing.

Here's this new video game about blowing bodies up.

Here's a lot of easy online porn.

Here is a lot of government programs.

Here's your three-unit money to go take a couple of classes for the next 20 years, that kind of stuff.

Don't have to pay your student loans back.

They'll forgive them one day.

That whole everything is negotiable mindset.

And that's where we are.

That explains a lot of these data that we're talking about.

Well, that's

very troubling.

Victor, we've got a couple more things to talk about, and let's talk about Tim Walls.

So we're

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Victor, I know you and the great Sammy Wink discuss Tim Walls, but I just want to read a few headlines, just mere headlines about him that I saw today on a website.

There are five Five headlines.

Here's one.

Weirdo Tim Walls believes 10-year-olds can choose their own gender.

Second, Tim Walls paid satanic drag performer for Lurid Show.

Third, Tim Walls signed law mandating racial quotas throughout state health department as Minnesota governor.

Fourth, after Walls became governor, Minnesotans fled the state and took almost 5 billion with them.

And last one,

Walls hosted pro-Hitler Muslim cleric who celebrated October 7th.

This is just five headlines I saw on a website today about the Democrat candidate.

You know what's even

worse about all of that you just read?

He himself has not gone out and said, I didn't say that.

I did not say I took a weapon into war.

I did not say I was deployed.

I did not say I was a command sergeant major.

Or he said, I did not have an Islamic leader who praised Hitler in my presence.

I didn't do that.

I did not sign a bill

into law that de facto implied that every local school district could put tampons, and many of them did, in male restrooms.

I didn't do that.

The reason I'm mentioning that is when J.D.

Vance was

nominated.

They went after him.

Remember?

He called women cats.

He called it.

And what did he do?

He went right out every day.

This is what I meant.

This is what I meant.

I was talking about the need for fertility.

I might have used a hyper,

you know, hyper word or something, but this is what I meant.

He was out there every day taking questions, and he explained it.

But the more that Waltz retreats, like Harris, like Biden, then what does he do?

He outsources it to the media.

So when you turn on MSNBC, ABC,

they're almost devoting 10 minutes of every show on defending Tim Waltz and what he should be saying, they're saying, and they think that's going to work.

But all they're doing is amplifying the stories, and it won't stop.

And it shows you that he can't go out there and talk about it.

What's he going to say?

If he had character, he'd go out and he'd say,

okay, I misspoke.

I got wound up in the excitement of the time.

And I said I was deployed to Enduring Freedom or all these different, I don't know, all the campaigns he said he was employed.

I think he said mostly Afghanistan.

But I did not mean that being in Italy, I was in Afghanistan.

I should have said that.

And I did retire before my unit.

when I understood that my unit was going to be deployed to Iraq.

But here's why I did it.

Or he could say, say,

I misused a title, but I was temporarily given that title and I just got, I just, it was a mistake.

He didn't do any of that.

And the same thing with her.

They just outsourced the media like Biden did in 2020.

It worked then.

But of course it worked in part because the country had never had an election where 30%

only showed up on election day.

And these seem now we're used to it.

and so maybe the republicans will say they fooled me once but they're not going to fool me again

uh and they really need to hammer this because he should be out there explaining and defending what he does and he can say you know what

uh

my wife really didn't mean that about she just wanted to open the windows and feel all of the turmoil so I would better understand it.

Or he could say, my daughter was 19.

19-year-old kids do all sorts of stuff.

And every parent knows that you've got a kid that says stuff that shouldn't.

She didn't mean that.

She apologizes now when she warned everybody that on the inside knowledge of her father that guard would not be deployed that night so they could go out and continue what they were doing.

Or he could say, I didn't call the guard to help the mayor of Minnesota.

And, you know, looking back, it's a judgment call.

I didn't know what would excite the situation.

But he doesn't do any of that.

He just gets herky jerky on the stage and he waves his arms, he smiles, he jumps up and down to the extent that he can.

And then he just attacks J.D.

Vance.

He makes the off-color joke about the couch.

It just,

there's nothing there.

There's nothing.

Nothing.

Victor, you've talked about the first website.

When you wake up in the morning, which I think is about at 3 a.m.

Well, you don't wake up because you never go to sleep.

I'm trying to stay up till 4.30.

Okay.

well you check out power line blog and i do yeah and that that i want to recommend this i should recommend it any day of the week but it is out of minnesota and scott johnson and john hinderaker who who are the forces behind the minnesota uh steve hayward is also also writes for it regularly steve's out in california though but they are all over um

walls.

So anyone who wants to want to...

They are.

They're the locus classicas because they had to deal with him.

Yeah.

And I think Scott had

personal, I mean, I think they went after Scott.

So he's the voice of authority.

He knows him backwards and forwards.

And they should be listened to because I think Scott wrote a really interesting posting on Power Airline.

I think it went kind of viral where he said, please, please pick.

Governor Waltz, remember?

Yeah.

And the content of it was, this guy is so left-wing and so incompetent and so vindictive that he will be an anchor around the Harris ticket.

But unfortunately, they would never appoint him because he's such a

he brings such negatives that they're obviously going to overcome their anti-Semitism and appoint Josh Shapiro.

But I wish they would.

And he was absolutely right.

His wish came true.

And now all

Trump and Vans have to do is take advantage of that blunder.

And it also, you know, people,

I like Ben Dominich, but he wrote a very disturbing op-ed.

Did you see that?

Where he was calling on Trump to replace Vance?

No, I didn't.

With Lincoln.

Yeah.

He said it's not too late.

It was a big mistake.

He

doesn't, Ohio is not going to be in, yeah.

I mean, he made logical points.

Ohio is not going to be a key state in the way Minnesota is not.

Just as Waltz reiterates Harris, so Vance reiterates Trump.

But he didn't bring the real reason why

he picked J.D.

There were two things that were lacking in that analysis.

And he's a very smart guy, he's a very good commentator, very quick on his feet.

But there's two things.

Number one, J.D.

Vance isn't going to be in Ohio.

He's going to be in Ohio like Wisconsin, Ohio like

Michigan, Ohio-like Pennsylvania, Ohio-like North Carolina.

That's where he's going to be.

Because it's the same demographic.

It's white working class, middle class, and middle class people of all backgrounds.

And he's going to be making an economic populist and cultural populist argument.

And that's number one.

And I don't think.

that

all the hype about

Waltz being just a, you know, he's he's just a rural guy and a coach.

This is a guy who said, don't worry about the red map of Minnesota because it doesn't reflect population.

It's just territory.

And the territory is just a bunch of rocks and cows, rocks and cows.

He's not going to pick up one rural voter, I don't think.

If you take Waltz and you put him in Michigan and Ohio and

Pennsylvania, and I don't think he picks up swing rural voters in the way that Vance will.

Number two,

as you saw when he went over to Camilla Harris's plane, he's unafraid, he's quick on his feet, and he's very, very well spoken, and he's very bright.

You're not going to see Waltz be able to do that.

And so you get an asset.

I'm not saying that Yunken couldn't have done that or Rubio couldn't have done that, but he felt comfortable with Trump.

And now he is really the spokesman that

explicates the mega agenda to the media.

And they don't like to talk to him.

They really don't.

They avoid him because they know if they get into a one-on-one, they lose.

And he's very good about that.

So he brings those two strengths.

And then it was just,

it was just luck that the one voice who could really bring home the inconsistencies and the paradoxes in the supposedly

impressive military record of Waltz was somebody who had had actually deployed to Iraq and had joined when he was 17, the Marines, and that was Vance.

So he was very valuable in a way that other candidates would not have been.

Yeah.

Well, I've only met him twice.

Nice enough guy.

I know you've met him also, Victor.

You know, whether they have him get elected or not, but I think likability matters.

And if his likability 101 is different than likability over media, but

I think it comes through.

Hey, you know what's not likable, Victor?

The United Nations Relief and Works Agency for Palestinian Refugees, the UNRWA.

Let me just read this little

excerpt from a report from the other day.

Recent relevations regarding the involvement of UN RWA staff in the October 7th massacre have ignited a crisis that many had previously dismissed for months.

Israel's claims that several UNRWA employees participated in these heinous attacks were met with skepticism and derision.

The UN and its allies quickly dismissed these allegations as politically motivated, labeling them as lacking substantial proof.

However, As evidence mounts, the reality appears far more troubling than previously acknowledged, raising serious concerns about UNRWA's integrity and the broader credibility of the United Nations.

Victor, it's been, I'll say, proven, nine

UN workers were involved in the massacre with evidence, clear evidence, and there were another dozen or so that there was not enough supporting evidence.

But there's a crapload of these people,

30,000 or so, working for this agency over there, which has been around for 70 or so years.

So it's kind of like the welfare state.

for a general generation after generation dependent,

I don't know, society people filled with,

it should be no surprise, is it, that their workers participated in the massacres?

Everybody has said that.

They had their pictures, they had the Israelis' files on them, and

it wasn't even controversial.

The only thing that was controversial was the efforts of the UN to deny it and demonize the people who had

participated in killing people and torturing them.

And remember that,

you know what, this reminded me of just thinking, you remember that guy, Kurt Waldheim?

Yes, the

head of the UN, remember?

And he was the head, and I guess he was in the 70s.

Yeah.

He was there a long time.

And then it came out that this UN person was,

I only remember it because I lived in Greece, so I was, I always would talk to Greeks about World War II.

When I first got there in 1973,

it was less than 30 years before.

And when you had blonde hair in 1973 and you went to a Greek village, they'd say,

are you a German-like person?

And you say, no.

Oh,

Americanos.

So they didn't like Germans, obviously.

And he was involved with that.

I don't know what it was.

It was, I don't know, Force E or something that, you know, carried out a lot of retaliatory atrocities.

And so my point is that the UN is not responsible to anybody.

There's no, I mean, it's a collective.

It's a bunch of nations and it is as good or bad as the weak link because it's collectivized.

There's no primacy.

The Security Council are picked not on morality, but in supposed power.

Most of them are nuclear nations.

They have traditional roles: China, Russia, France, Britain, the United States, etc.

But there's no appeal to anybody.

So when you say

there were people in this United Nations relief group that were working for Hamas,

and Iran was on the Commission for Human Rights, what's Iran going to say?

Oh, that's terrible.

They're going to say, great, that's wonderful.

It's sort of like the World Health Organization that was a megaphone for China.

Or what's North Korea going to say?

Is Maduro going to call up and say, oh, my God,

Venezuela's cutting off money to the UN relief, all UN relief, because they were killing people on October 7th?

Maybe Brazil, Lulu will do that.

Maybe Erdogan will say, Turkey, strong NATO power, we're not going to give any more money to the UN.

No.

Half the countries are going to support that.

And that's really problematic.

We've been talking about reforms.

I think the greatest reform, Trump wouldn't do it because he's a businessman, and the UN gives a lot of money to an otherwise ossified New York that's in big trouble financially.

But if there was any justice in the world, you would just say,

we're going to take the UN headquarters and we're going to put it, you have your choice.

We'll put it in Nairobi,

we'll put it in Caracas,

or maybe,

I don't know, we'll put it in Hanoi.

and all of you guys will get to enjoy the security and the food and the attention you get in Nairobi.

How's that?

And then you won't have to be in the United States anymore and this awful great Satan.

Or we could just say to them, you know, we really like you, but you're kind of like the League of Nations.

You're irrelevant.

So just as we didn't participate in the League of Nations.

And by the way, our participation in the League of Nations did not cause World War II.

did not cause World War II.

The League of Nations could have stopped Mussolini and Hitler with the British Navy very early on, and they chose not to.

And the French army could have stopped it in the 20s and 30s and 40s.

They could have stopped it.

It was the League of Nations, the nature of collective security in globalized world governance.

It does not work.

There is nobody.

Even Kissinger said when he said about the EU, he said, who do I call?

You know,

hello, Mr.

President of the EU.

I'm Henry Kissinger.

I want to deal with the EU.

Oh, you don't have authority over France?

Germany doesn't listen to you?

Oh, who do I call then?

And that's the problem with all these international globalist entities.

And they don't work anymore.

And I guess.

I don't know.

I mean, I wasn't not surprised.

I would have been surprised if UN workers in Gaza were not involved in killing Jews.

Because half of the revolutions

that were introduced in the UN in the 60s, 70s, 80s, 90s were anti-Israel.

Half.

They weren't about Pol Pot.

They weren't about Rwanda.

They were not about the Uyghurs.

They were not about leveling Graz.

They were about Jews in Israel.

Victor, before we get on to another topic or two, I'm springing this on you, but I mentioned we just talked about Powerline blog, and I mentioned that you had said before that this is more than once that that's one of the first things you check out every day.

And

I got an email from a listener.

You know, we have a lot of

new listeners.

Would you mind just very quickly giving a brief on your wake up and

what are you doing to

gather information, news, et cetera?

Where do you turn to?

I will not subscribe to the New York Times or Washington Post.

Right.

So I

confess that.

I read the Wall Street Journal, but I'm going to be blunt under their new editor.

I think her name is Emma Tucker.

I'm increasingly disappointed because when I look at the reporting

element of the Wall Street Journal,

I don't see anything there

that seems to me disinterested.

It's increasingly going to the left is what I'm saying.

When they hired Molly Ball, who wrote the Time 2021 February essay, do you remember that one, Jack, about the cabal and conspiracy, the gushing,

how wonderful this was, that Silicon Valley and everybody,

they added drop boxes, they modulated the protests, they used quote-unquote disinformation to censor the news, and she was bragging about it, how they beat Trump.

It was almost an argument for rigging an election.

And

she's a reporter there at the Wall Street Journal.

So I read the Wall Street Journal first, but I increasingly just go to the op-ed.

I think I've always liked Paul Chugot.

I think James Tarantino, isn't he the editor now?

James Toronto.

Toronto.

He oversees the op-eds.

They're good op-eds.

I don't agree with all of them, but they're good.

I really like Kimberly Strassel.

I've always liked her.

I know her.

I like her a lot.

I trust her juggling.

I've known Daniel Hiniger off and on a little bit, and I agree a lot with he writes.

To be candid, I'm increasingly disappointed with Peggy Noonan.

It's kind of just too erratic.

I don't.

you know, now she's gushing about Camilla Harris and stuff.

Anyway, and then I always read Powerline.

And with Powerline,

you get a lot of good stories and they're well written.

And I like all three of those guys.

I've known them a little bit, not so much John, but I've known Scott off and on.

I've known Steve Hayward.

Steve Hayward's a very kind person.

I think I told you that I had to go speak to John Yu during COVID.

He had a program.

And everybody went to dinner.

And then

they were very kind about asking to take me back to Palo Alto.

It's about 60 miles.

And there were no Ubers.

Remember the Ubers, you couldn't find them.

So I kept, and there was no Uber.

So I was stuck at night, you know, in Berkeley.

And Steve was walking to his car and he said, you need a ride?

I said, yeah, but I got to go all the way to, I don't mind, I don't mind.

He drove me a whole hour out of his way and back.

And so he's always been a very generous guy.

I really appreciated that.

You know, another thing I do, there's a group of people that write a aggregation.

You know, know, have you ever seen it called The Usual Suspect?

Where they go.

Yeah, they do.

They

aggregate all the major news stories.

Oh, okay.

I read that.

I read Real Clear Politics and I read the couplets.

So I always read the left and the right.

And they try to do a good job.

And they have a lot of good analysts.

Yeah.

Always like Carl Cannon.

He's a sensible guy.

Sean Trent.

They give you you kind of down-the-middle analysis.

And I know John McIntyre, one of the owners, and he's good.

So I always go there.

I go, I spend about two hours every morning from, say, 4.30 to 6.30 reading.

And then

I try to go to some conservative sites.

like Daily Caller, Daily Wire, Hot Air or something.

I like Lynn Reynolds a lot.

So I go there.

You ever go go to the Instapundit?

Just bam, bam, bam, bam to see some of the stories.

I like him and his wife a lot.

They're very good people.

And

then I try to go to,

I go in,

I don't pay the left.

I go to the Daily Beast, you know, I'll go look at the bulwark.

It's very painful, but every once in a while, I want to see real left-wing.

If you really want to see left-wing propaganda, go to Drudge Report.

If you thought that he was reckless on the right,

go look what he's publishing now on the left.

It's basically Harris is blowing out Trump.

Trump has lost the election.

All these right-wing people are crazy.

They're horrible.

And then it's kind of the populist version of the bulwark.

But you need to read it, not to patronize it, but to get an idea.

Once in a while, I'll go to The Atlantic.

They have a new editor.

I know him a little bit.

He's much better than the other editors, but it's still a center-left magazine.

I just want to see what they're writing.

I go to Quillette once in a while to see some.

Yeah, Quillette's pretty good.

Yeah, I read Roger Kimball's New Criterion stuff every I'm a writer in residence, responsible for four articles a year, but Roger's a wonderful editor, great publisher, great writer.

I do that.

I go to the Epic Times sometimes, although they've gotten rid of all of their contract columnists.

Yeah, they do.

I used to pick up mine.

Roger Simon's not there either anymore, and a lot are not there.

Although I think Conrad's still there, Conrad Black

is a really good writer.

I've always liked what he writes.

It's very sensible.

And

then, so I go to about eight or nine sites.

I try to just skim the propaganda sites just to see how they frame the news.

I'm talking about Google News, Yahoo News, Apple News.

It's painful.

It's painful.

It's reading the Drudge Report.

It's It's painful

as reading the Daily Beast.

It's

painful as reading Vox, but I do go through there.

Sometimes people send it to me and say, hey, you're attacked here.

But I do that to get the other side.

And then

I look at local things here in California.

I like the Washington Examiner is getting better.

I've always liked Ryan York.

I read his little morning

blast.

You know, he was, he worked with you guys for years.

I was his boss at one point when I was publisher of NR.

Yeah, I like Byron.

He's a good reporter.

He is.

And then at night, I try to scan.

I confess I watch Fox.

I don't say I confess that I'm proud to watch Fox, but I try to balance it.

I try to do three or

two to four Fox appearances a week, and then I try to do Newsmax.

They call me a couple of times a week.

I go on their shows.

And I don't mean that to say that I'm the person of interest, but that's how I learn the news as well.

Because in the evenings, all these stories have matured during the day, and they're up there, and they want talking points.

They want you to go through them.

And I probably do on an average, I'm looking at my calendar right now.

It's a little heavy because of the book.

I probably do six podcast or radio interviews a day, probably, you know, 15, 20 minutes.

I'm doing a lot in Australia.

I must have done six or seven Zoom interviews with Australians the last six weeks.

They get massive.

I know it's a good idea.

I get better.

They like me a lot better than the Americans do.

And I do some, I do regularly, when there's an Italian reporter for a French newspaper, I do

interviews with Greeks

newspapers.

I do interviews with Japan has been very nice to me.

I do a whole, about once every three or four months, I do a interview online with them.

I just did one yesterday with a Swiss newspaper.

And I try to do maybe one European or Asian

interview

maybe each week.

And then you really learn about that.

I usually shouldn't do it.

It's a lot of time, but a lot of people send me online interview questions to answer.

I do that a couple of times a week.

I do local San Joaquin Valley, California radio, probably two to three a week.

I did two this week.

I'm exhausted listening to this.

I love Megan Kelly.

Megan Kelly's show.

Megan is a fearless conservative.

I mean, my gosh, she's afraid of no one.

She really does her homework.

She's up to speed.

She's got a quick mind.

She speaks well.

And this is a venue that she's much better equipped for than being an anchor woman because you get more of an avenue to express what you really feel and get a more wider variety of controversial guests.

So she really came into her own.

I think she's.

She did.

She's a wise guy and a little bit of a potty mouth, but you know, we can't have everything.

Yeah.

Well,

I don't think people write her and accuse her of using the F word like they did me.

Oh, I know.

know but uh she i i i like to go on that show i do that about every three or four sometimes i i had been long covet and i was gone for 30 days but i did scholars and since with um

conrad black and bill bennett periodically um

i'm doing a good show uh i really like him he's the dean of um

The Pepperdine School of Public Policy.

It's where my late daughter went and got an MA.

And

they funded.

Yes, Pete Peterson.

And I teach there on a Zoom.

And

he does

office hours.

And it's a podcast.

And it's kind of historical.

We did it on World War II and Great Leaders, Great Leaders last year.

And this year, I just

did a long interview on the end of everything with him.

It's coming out.

It's already out.

And I think we have three more scheduled for the fall on World War II.

I'm teaching a class on World War II for Pepperdine.

Graduate students.

Yeah, for Zoom.

I can do it from my farm.

And I prefer that and Hillsdale to getting involved with Stanford just because I graduated from Stanford and I have a long history with that classics department.

And that university tried to censor me.

And I do not want to participate outside of the Hoover Institution with that institution.

Yeah.

At least until it changes itself.

And I don't, I cannot forgive them what they did to Scott Atlas when they

were.

And I cannot forgive them what Neil's a good friend of mine and they drudged up a ridiculous old thing.

And then they unleashed that Lumbo guy in the English department who went crazy with all these accusations.

No one really called him to account for his.

He was a sponsor of Antifa Stanford, and then he took a bunch of students out on the, I think it was the San Mateo or maybe it was at Dumbarton Bridge.

70 students got arrested.

They caused 13 car wrecks at

commute time and there was no consequences for him.

And yet he was accusing Neil and Scott and eventually myself.

But I do like to teach still.

So every year that since my retirement from Cal State, I've taught a class or two.

But

I taught five, four and five classes a semester.

Usually I taught an overload.

The regular load was four, and for Bruce Thornton and I, the other classes I had to teach an extra course to keep the program going.

So from 1984 to 2004,

you know, 10 classes a year for 20 years

is, you know, 200 classes.

Is that right?

Yeah.

Yeah.

10 classes a year, and you're doing it for 10 years, and then you do it for 20, 200, and then you've got, you know, dissertations and 50 students in some of these and you get 10,000 students you've encountered.

So

I had enough of that after, I mean, I liked doing it.

That was my happiest period of my life, to tell you the truth, farming and then teaching there.

But I couldn't keep it up and writing books and stuff.

So I tried it.

Just to sum up, I tried to read this stuff from two hours in the morning.

I listed all these these different things, and then I try to go on these different podcasts and tell readers that these hosts are very good.

And

I do miss Tucker because every Monday night, right after the monologue, I'd go on Tucker.

And I've only been on his ex a couple of times.

I said something, I don't know if it offended him or not, but I thought that he

his prep team had not apprised him.

You remember when he interviewed the Christian mayor of Bethlehem?

Yes.

And that mayor said that Israel had driven out all the Christians.

And that was not true.

Israel had welcomed all the Christians.

Islamic people drove out Christians from Bethlehem.

And I don't think that was brought to his attention.

That's the only time I criticized him.

And

so I've been, you know, I think I get a lot of news, a lot.

And

well, it's pretty profound.

So we still need your opinions, though.

And as we head into the home stretch here.

Oh, I have to.

Can I say one last thing?

Can you say what I mean?

You get about 200 emails a day, and that has been invaluable.

And they run like this.

Hey, Victor, you.

You mentioned this.

This is a story.

You got to talk, read it.

And they give me PDFs or attachments.

Yeah.

Read my book.

Read my book.

Yeah, that's yeah.

Well, I have about, I'm getting a lot of pressure from authors because they said, you said you would read my book and blurb it.

Well, I have six, I have about 1,200 pages, no, about 1,500 pages on my desk to read.

I had long COVID.

I was gone on Europe for a month.

And I've got all this stuff to do.

And I've got to write people.

Give me more time if it's possible.

But I do blurb books.

If they're good books, I read them.

I don't just blurb them.

I try to read the book.

Yeah.

I'll try to write a good book for you to blurb someday, Victor.

Yes, I'd be happy to.

I don't know if it'll be an endorsement.

I notice that some authors that I know very well, they'll say, don't worry, you don't have to blurb my book.

And I think that's, I don't want your name on it, you know, get

controversy.

Well,

Victor, there's a suppression of bad riots in Britain, and then there's the elevation of good riots in Britain.

And we will get your thoughts on this when we come back from these final important messages.

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Okay, Victor, the European Conservative, which is a terrific

website.

Let me just read this quickly and get your broader take.

We have witnessed two types of rioting here in the United Kingdom since three little girls were murdered in the northern English town of Southport on July 29th by the son of Rwandan immigrants.

There have been physical riots in assorted towns and cities, local outbursts of brick-chucking, violent unrest involving clashes with police, and some reprehensible attacks on hostels holding migrants or mosques.

These riots pose an immediate problem of public order.

They may have abated, at least for now.

And then there is the national counter-riot, a political prejudice staged by the labor government, the mainstream media, and the rest of the liberal establishment, left-handedly hurling brickbats at everybody from Nigel Farage to Elon Musk.

Unlike the incoherent protests on the street, this top-down political riot has a clear aim: exploiting the unrest to try to shift the blame for Britain's problems onto quote-unquote far-right thugs, smearing the white working class as racists and justify a new crackdown on free speech and democracy.

Victor, your thoughts?

Well, I mean,

they were mistaken that the Rwanda

killer

was a

British subject, but he was the son of immigrants.

And I think the mob thought that he was

a recent migrant or resident alien or illegal alien.

So they were tired of it.

But the general

point was there has been an uptake

in

non-British-born immigrants, and the crime rate has

grown.

And in particular urban areas of Britain, the Labour Party, by its own admission, has now admitted that that was the policy in the 21st century to open the gates of Britain to change the demography and they did.

And so you could argue that there is a large number of people who are called deplorables, irredeemables, that type of disparagement.

And they're living in cities that are 30 to 34 percent.

I think London's 35 percent of immigrants that were not, you know, were not born in the United States and in Great Britain.

These are radical demographic changes.

And when the authorities are woke or they're under the DEI, and the thing about

we've got to remember about British politics is two things, that their administrate state is their administrative state has more powers than ours do.

They don't have a constitution like ours, the Bill of Rights.

So you can have people in the communications and media censor people and jail them in a way that we would find unthinkable.

And then the second thing is the British Conservative Party is not like the Conservative Republican Party.

They don't have any idea

of what we would call populist conservative issues on abortion or gun control.

or

local control.

They're more or less,

I would say they're to the left of McCain Romneyism, wouldn't you?

The Conservative Party in Britain.

So there is no, there's a reform party under Farage, but there's not,

there hasn't been a collective voice for this discontent.

And then when you put into the

formula that globalization rewarded these urban elites in fantastic ways, as Britain, that was in decline, under Thatcher, it created an environment that became the financial hub of Europe.

So there was fantastic amounts of money made in Britain, but it was not equally made.

And its industry and assembly and muscular classes

were

lost out in terms of real wages and jobs.

And then all of these immigrants were welcomed in without assimilation, without integration by the left and weaponizing the migration policy.

It's true.

And you've got this volatile situation, and then you have this administrative state that's woke that is like ours.

So what's analogous of these riots in Britain, and we saw the counter riots with people with clubs, and we saw the policemen say, hey,

we're not going to arrest you for being armed.

Just put it in your local mosque.

Just deposit them.

So

what was happening there, the disparity between the reaction toward the rioting of the white working class and the immigrant and largely Muslim class, is analogous with, you know, mutatus mutandis, with the necessary changes being made between January 6th, where you militarize the capital and we've got people

serving 20 years

one day

and no policemen killed.

no matter what they say.

Officer Sicknick did not die from an attack.

He died of natural causes.

The other five that we just heard from Camilla Harris and Waltz, they were not killed.

They either committed suicide or they died afterwards.

There was one person killed, Ashley Babbitt, but she was shot while unarmed by Officer Byrd.

My point is, when you juxtapose that to the 120 days of rioting in 2020, and then we talked about that with Waltz on our last podcast, and 1,500 injured policemen and 35 to 40 dead, $2 billion worth of damage, the rioting, the arson, the looting, the attempt to destroy, get them to the White House grounds of Trump, the burning of a precinct and of a courthouse and a church.

The reaction to that is they let most of those 14,000 perpetrators off in a way they wouldn't dare the January 6th.

Well, that's the same paradigm.

The same globalists, the same elite, the same DEI, the same leftist

romanticize DEI violence or immigrant violence and they overreact to white violence and they do it for political purposes.

And it's not going to end well because everybody knows what's going on and the British population has had it.

Remember, we had this Scottish leader.

I've been following him a little bit.

Remember his name, Humza Yousof?

He was the guy that they elected to be the semi-autonomous leader of Scotland.

I think his family was, I don't know, I think they were from the Gaza or the Palestinian territory.

And

he would say things like they were making good progress to eliminate the white population in the sense of demography.

And

he said the other day that when he looked at these riots, that he wanted to leave the UK.

Okay, where would he want to to go?

Gaza, Palestine, Egypt, Jordan?

I mean, a lot of people say, you're right, you should go.

You don't feel comfortable here because immigrants came here for our culture.

They didn't come here to take their culture and change us into the places they didn't want to stay in.

So if you come from Gaza or Palestine, you're coming to Scotland for market capitalism and security and free speech and equality of the sexes sexes, and protection of minority rights, and constitutional government and scientific advanced research.

And you're leaving tribalism and Hamas,

no elections and theocracy and misogyny.

So you come over to Scotland, and then what do you do?

You start championing the culture that you don't want to go back to.

And that's what he did.

And now with this riots are going on, and they're, as you said, Jack, they're asymmetrically

controlled by the police in the sense that the so-called white working classes are clamped down and charged, and the Muslim reaction is not to the same degree.

Nevertheless, he looks at this and says, oh my God, I'm going to leave.

And most people say, there's the door.

We'll pay your way.

But he won't.

He won't.

And

it just crystallizes the central problem with mass

immigration, mostly illegal, but even some legal to the West from the non-west.

In the past, if you were coming from Ireland or from Eastern Europe, wherever these, or Sicily, these mass immigration, there was no doubt about the rules of the game.

You, my great-grandfather and his family, brought my grandfather and everybody.

Okay, they did.

They left Sweden.

As my grandfather told me, all you could do is farm rocks.

And if you weren't part of the aristocracy, you just farm rocks the rest of your life.

They left Lund.

They came over here.

And guess what?

They wanted to be hyper-American citizens.

They didn't fly Swedish flags.

We did stupid things like eight-ride crockers and bought Electro-Lux sweepers and bought these little ladybug bolos, but that was just adornments.

They were hyper.

You go to that little square in Kingsburg, three miles from where I'm speaking, it's called Hanson Corner, and there's a list of the people.

You know, Private Frank Hansen gassed in World War I,

Corporal Victor Hanson killed on Okinawa,

Staff Sergeant William Hansen, 40 missions over Tokyo, Staff Sergeant

Bob Hansen.

Iran posted on supplying

efforts with Lin

So all of them did that.

They were happy to do that.

But when you change that dynamic and you bring people under illegal auspices in such numbers and they're not diverse and they're coming from certain

regions that are not spread around the world and they form enclaves, then you have the opposite of

good immigration.

You have bad immigration.

And what is bad immigration?

It is people who come over to the United States to enjoy security and prosperity that was there before they got there, but they want to bring their own culture.

They want to insist that the way they treat homosexuals, our women, are apostates from their religion, are their personal

way of life, whether that is, you know, or what we are.

When people come en masse from southern Mexico and they live in the country, they do not vaccinate vaccinate their dogs.

They don't.

And there's 10 or 20 of them in rural compounds.

And sometimes when they run off the road, they abandon their vehicles five times.

And sometimes they're not observant of

obeying the law that mandates that you have to have garbage service.

So, you know, I just walked out this morning and here's a whole new two trash bags, Spanish newspapers, advertisements, wet, and I won't even tell you what was in the plastic bags.

So

and so that is not good.

And so what we have to reiterate and what the subtext and

the Scottish leaders, if he doesn't use it, if he doesn't like it, he should go back and enjoy all of the delights of Gaza and the Palestinian thorn and go to Jordan.

Because he seems to think it's safer or better.

And he will be with people of his own values and customs.

But if he's going to come to Britain, and then he should come fully assimilate is what I'm trying to say.

So if you come across the border with one of those 10 million people, people should say to them, you left Venezuela, you left Mexico, or you left the Caribbean because you didn't like it.

Okay?

So now you like this country.

And here are the rules.

You got about a year to speak English.

You got about a year to follow.

If you apply for, you got to have a green card before you come.

You got to be legal.

If you want to be a citizen, you're going to have to apply for citizenship and take a test.

And you have to be self-supporting.

And as far as if we have a soccer match, you're now an American and you don't root for the opposite team in the LA Coliseum.

I'm sorry, you just don't do that.

You are an American.

And

I think when we do it legally and diverse and in manageable numbers, it works great.

And, you know, when

I see Mexican-American immigrants that came legally and assimilation,

assimilated numbers, it's been wonderful for California.

But when people come from south the border and huge amount of numbers and they're not audited, then you get Sereños and Arteños and M13,

and people do not assimilate and they don't learn the language.

And you end up somewhere where you go to the food market and you stand behind a guy, as I said last time.

I just went there and he's speaking Spanish to the clerk who's speaking Spanish and he's fishing through four or five WIC cards and three or four EBT cards as he separates his food from his beer and alcohol that he has.

And you wait and wait and wait.

And that's a minor inconvenience, but it's indicative of what's wrong with the whole situation.

And so

I can see why people get very angry about it.

And especially when the elites say, that's racist, what you just said, Victor.

Jose cuts my lawn very well in Atherton.

And Maria is one of my best housekeepers.

And I gave all my used clothing to crews.

I really did.

And they're very good servants.

That's the reaction you get.

But if you really believe that and you believe that they're going to be great American citizens and they're learning English and they're here legally and you're not paying them in cash or you're doing, I don't know, you whatever they want and you're

then

sponsor them and

make sure your kids know them and ask them into your schools.

Why do you live in a walled community?

Yeah, but don't live an apartheid existence and then lecture about ecomenicalism.

If you do that, you're just no different than those clowns on Martha's Vineyard with their puff jackets they gave to people and then their food and then get the bus and get them out of here.

Oh, my.

Wow.

Um,

I've been to Martha's Vineyard.

Actually, that's where Chappaquitik is.

Sharon, we had to go.

It was like a pilgrimage to see to see what poor.

And when you got there, you saw that it was an easy thing to make that.

Oh, my gosh.

You needed there like this after what he did.

And

all right, well, anyway, that was the left's Waterloo, how they lied.

You know, we say that the media has become very bad.

You remember how they had to lie to protect that essentially,

I don't know what you would call it, involuntary manslaughter?

Right.

And that was 60 years ago, you know, close to 60 years ago.

This is, they've been doing this for generations.

They didn't even have a normal autopsy.

Right.

They just closed the investigation.

The media said it was.

And then he went on TV and he said,

if you want me to leave, I will, but I wasn't drunk and it was just a very bad i drunk i i i dived several times to save her and it was just and if you but if you want me to leave you can vote but just call in and oh no please don't leave it was just pathetic yeah

well victor what a bad person ted kennedy was yeah oh yeah the lion of the senate No, he was the liar of the Senate.

And he was a bad person.

He did a lot of damage.

It wasn't just Robert Bork or Mary Joe Kopeck.

He did a lot of damage to a lot of people.

And he was completely undisciplined in his personal life, whether it was his alcohol or what he said about people

or his career.

And we were just talking about immigration and our friend Mark Gorian, who says, not only the problem is legal, illegal immigration, it's the legal immigration has its problems too.

And Ted Kennedy is...

Yeah, he was the one that decided there were too many people coming meritically and they were not when they came merucratically from say after the Hungarian Revolution or they came from Greece or Cyprus or where all over the world or North South Korea or Japan they tended to be too conservative but you bring them en masse from poor countries and you lavish them with state services upon arrival and you ask nothing of them then they tend to be chauvinistic and tribal and they become a constituency and that helps the progressive redistributionist party.

And that was the point.

And then when you say that, what I just said, they said, oh, you're part of Tucker Carlson's great replacement theory.

And then they write books called Demography is Destiny, the New Democratic Majority.

Yeah.

So just what they

find out what they're bitching about, and that's what they're doing.

I'm saying,

you know, I'm going to be 71.

September 5th, and they exhaust me.

You know what I mean by that?

You think back for 50 years, you've dealt with these people, and they just exhaust you.

It's always the hysterical style.

It really is.

They get so whipped up on certain things.

You know, I heard Nancy Pelosi the other day say, well, I had to get rid of Joe Biden.

I hope he speaks to me, but I had to make sure Donald Trump never steps foot.

in the White House again.

Well,

she's

I guess that would mean that her husband is not going to get any more inside deals on California real estate investment.

Yeah, you know, those people who choose to have a fund that

tracks the funds of some of these congressmen and their returns on their investment is much higher than yours or money.

I thought the whole time when they were going after Russian collusion collusion and there was no evidence.

Diane Feinstein got on the board.

She was more reasonable than Pelosi, but at the time she got on that back, she had just been exposed for 20 years as the head of the Senate Intelligence and Judiciary Committees, and she had a Chinese spy as her chauffeur listening to everything.

And then the left-wing California media went into hyperdrive.

Well, this is a right-wing talking point.

You don't understand the complexities and the context.

Have you noticed that about the fact-checkers when they

admit that something is true, that they go, well, there was context behind it, or there was contextualization next.

It was, boy, it's like, who will police the police?

That's been one disastrous phenomenon, the fact checker, Snopes or political fact.

They are the most biased people.

And they just go

panicking when they have to tell the truth.

So they always talk about context or something like that.

Well, you figure the outcome and then you got to back into it.

Hey, Victor,

we're over time here.

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