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There always is.

I guess we should kick off the show talking about Benjamin Netanyahu getting punished by the Biden administration.

We have Donald Trump talking about giving green cards to foreigners who graduate from U.S.

colleges.

I kind of find that like, what the what?

And then

maybe you find it the same.

We have RFK.

We have the debates coming up next week.

RFK, Robert Kennedy is excluded from them.

We have Alvin Bragg, the Manhattan DA.

Oh, wow, big surprise.

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Again, Victor, we're recording on the 21st of June.

I don't even know if it's summer anymore.

I always used to think it was the 22nd.

That was when summer began, but I don't know anymore.

Anyway, happy summer by the time this

is out.

So, Victor, Benjamin Netanyahu,

trying to finish the war, trying to crush the enemies who launched a massacre of the Israeli people and pose a permanent threat to that great ally of america hamas

uh he uh cut a video on on twitter appealing to america for for continued support did not go over well with the biden administration and they're going to punish um america's i don't think even best ally as the former ambassador ron dermer called it america's indispensable ally this is crazy in my opinion victor your thoughts on all this Well, everybody should remember this is a continuance, continuance, continuance of the crazy.

Remember, they said they mind-melded Ben Rhodes in

an Atlantic interview.

I think you said that he mind-melded with Barack Obama on the Iran deal.

But this is

the John Kerry, Barack Obama, Ben Rhodes, Valerie Jarrett,

crazy idea that you're going to create this Iranian-Persian Shia crescent from Tehran to Beirut

to Gaza,

and it's going to include Iran and Hezbollah and Hamas and the Houthis.

And they're going to create tension, and it's going to be good tension against our so-called allies.

They don't like them, the Gulf monarchies, the moderate Jordanians and Egyptians, and the one that they hate the most, the Israelis.

And then we won't favor either side, but from time to time, dip our toe in to adjudicate.

That was the idea, and it was completely bankrupt.

It didn't stop the progression toward the bomb as they claimed it would.

And now Biden is continuing it.

And so part of that exegesis in an election year is

not only are we going to continue this policy, but we have to win Michigan.

We have to win one state.

It has to be Michigan, Pennsylvania, or Wisconsin, or we're going going to lose the election, given what's going on in the other swing states.

So they're focusing on Pennsylvania and Michigan, and they feel that they have to sell the Israelis out.

They're also worried that

Benjamin Netanyahu has the wherewithal right now, munitions stockpiled to destroy Hamas.

And I think they will destroy Hamas.

And they'll get Sino or whatever his name is, and they'll get the, I don't know what will happen to the hostages, but by August, I don't think there'll be a Hamas.

I don't know what's going to follow.

But what they're worried about is they need to stockpile an enormous amount of munitions, missiles, Patriot, anti-missile, etc.

J-bombs, smart bombs, because they've got to deal with Hezbollah.

They've got 100,000 Israelis that are not able to live in their own homes.

And Hezbollah, because of the rocketing, has basically made the northern border with Lebanon uninhabitable.

And Hezbollah knows there's a reckoning coming.

Today they threatened Israel that they were going to hit Haifa, and they may hit Haifa.

But what they don't realize is what happened in 2006 is when the Israelis retaliated, they destroyed Shia Beirut for 20 years, and they're going to do it again.

And Hezbollah knows that.

And this administration does not want that to happen

during the run-up to the election.

They don't want to be in a position of being in the position they're going to be in, and that is simply they're going to try to cut

munitions to Israel so they will not be able to force Hezbollah back and to stop the rocketing.

I know that sounds crazy, but they also think, well, you know, they got rid of Hamas.

Now they get Hezbollah,

what tools does Iran have to balance everybody?

The poor Iranians, they don't have any.

Who knows?

Maybe if we keep giving them weapons, they might go after Iran.

So that's how they think.

And And Netanyahu finally warned that, you know,

they were strangling the supply chain, that Israel needs to protect itself.

They don't care.

They don't care.

They don't make,

they say they're left-wing, but they don't make a distinction between a democratic constitutional system in Israel and the thugs and Hamas and Hezbollah and Iran.

All they do is it's a Marxist, these people are oppressed.

They're the Palestinians, they're Hezbollah, They're the Iranians.

They've always been oppressed by settlers and victimizers.

And so therefore, we're siding with them no matter how illiberal they are.

That's how they think.

And so

Netanyahu's trying to

tell America, hey, everybody, don't believe your own administration.

They are cutting us.

And they're not allowing us to stock the necessary munitions that will destroy Hezbollah.

And we need to do that right now because we're going to go after them in July and August.

And I think that's the message.

Victor, it sounds almost like it's a crazy academic,

I don't know, game.

This love of Iran is,

I don't see how this fits in.

I've got to remember one thing.

America.

Like, does John Kerry really love Iran and hate Israel?

Well, what happened is, got to remember, everybody, that there were two diasporas in Iran.

When the Shah was tottering and it looked like Khomeini was going to come in, conservative Iranians, many of them Jewish, fled Iran and they were able to take a lot of their capital with them

because Khomeini wasn't completely, there was a half a million, many of them are in Los Angeles, and they are very, very conservative, very patriotic.

Those who stayed felt that Khomeini and the theocrats were useful tools for their socialist revolution.

So they thought this was an intermediary.

He got rid of the Shah, and then they will retreat to their

theocratic enclaves and we, Bonnie Sauter, Goatspotty,

all of these people, will come up, come to the fore and run things.

Well, anybody

who knew who Khomeini was wouldn't see how bankrupt that was.

So then when they started to do that, they were liquidated.

Thousands were killed.

And where did they flee to?

They fled to Europe and they fled the United States.

So when you see somebody who says he's an Iranian, either an American or a green card holder, ask them what year they came here.

If they came here in 81, 82, 83, they're left-wing socialists.

If they came here in 79, they're not.

And that group is who is very influential in this left-wing politics, those people.

And they are in the Pentagon, they're in the DOJ, they're in the State Department, and they're a very powerful bloc.

And they still cling to this idea that if you engage Iran,

maybe the people will get rid of the theocrats and put them back in power for that brief moment when they were in power.

And it can be a nice socialist communist Iran.

And

that's how insane this is.

The other larger point is, Jack,

we who are sane, are listeners, we look at the border and we say it's insane.

There's 10 million people, there's rapists, they keep raping young girls, they keep killing people, they strangle them, they mutilate them.

These people from Venezuela are horrible.

Why are they in here?

And then we look at the finance, we say they're borrowing a trillion dollars every 90 days.

It's 4 trillion a year at that rate.

And now we have to pay 5.5%

interest on the debt.

It's larger than the defense budget.

And then we look at our energy, say, why would we cancel ANWAR or Keystone?

Why do we want to be dependent?

If he's draining the petroleum reserve, why doesn't he just pump the oil?

This is insane.

And then we look at these DAs, the Soros DAs, the local, the federal Jackson.

We said, this is so obvious what he's doing.

He's going after his political enemies.

Then we look abroad and think, wow,

Afghanistan?

How could you do that?

Leave $50 billion there, flee, abandon a billion-dollar embassy, a $300 million retrofitted great airbase.

How can you do this to Israel?

So we think it's madness, but there is a logic to the madness.

They think,

they think, ah,

you may have got us out of power, but for four years, we let in 10 million people and we destroyed the border.

And you know what?

We've got 10 million of them now.

And they're going to be our future constituents.

And they're going to be in swing states.

And they're going to vote.

Maybe not legally, but they're going to vote.

And they're going to be recipients of entitlements for the next 40 years.

And that's good for us because otherwise we don't have new constituents.

Anyone who knows us and looks at us doesn't like us and they don't like what we do.

But these people do because we brought them in here.

There is a logic.

When you look at the debt,

you say, My God, why would they run up $36 trillion?

I mean,

$4 trillion,

this is insane.

At high interest rate?

And they said, ah,

when we get out, you people are going to have to deal with it.

And you're either going to have to raise taxes or cut entitlements.

And if you cut entitlements, we're going to demagogue you for the rest of your life for killing the poor or strangling the people along.

But you'll have to raise taxes.

And that's what we wanted all along.

We gorged the beast, so you would have to raise taxes, and you're going to have to do it, just like Clinton and Ginrich did.

Otherwise, the country will be insolvent.

This was a good idea, what we did.

Furthermore, they said, you know what?

You look at our crime attitude and you think it's madness.

Think about it again.

After Joe Biden, do you think if you're going to be a prominent Republican politician and you're going to go after woke or D.I.

and we can't indict you for something

in a blue state, but the two places that count are Washington and New York.

That's where all the money and the business and the government is.

And we control the DAs, the judges, and the juries.

And we've sent you a message.

You better be careful.

And as far as this rampant crime and Alvin Bragg lets people out and protests, we're saying this.

You made up a law that oppresses people, and we make up a law that is higher than yours.

It's a moral law.

So when somebody breaks and smashes and grabs and assaults somebody, that's a cry of the heart.

They're saying they've been victimized their whole life, and now the, oh, the upper west side, the upper east side aristocrat, the stockbroker is worried because somebody hit him.

Pooh poo, whoa, whoa.

That's how they think.

And you need us

because you need DAs, you need judges, and you need police, and we control that.

So you better shape up your politics, or you're not going to be protected.

You're not going to be able to get a gun as far as we're concerned.

And that's how they think.

And on foreign policy, it's the same thing.

Oh, you think it's chaos?

You think it's chaos?

Who are we on the right side of history of?

The arc of history bends, but it bends toward morality.

That's what they think.

And now we're on the right side of people of color against these so-called white oppressive settlers in Israel.

We're on the right side in Iran.

We're on the right side of everybody.

We got out of Afghanistan.

We needed to be humiliated.

We were imperialists.

We got

humiliated.

That's how they think, Jack.

So it's madness for us, but for them, it's sanity.

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Hey, Victor, before we

get on to the next topic about

a little curveball Donald Trump has thrown with his thoughts on immigration policy,

I'm just curious, since so many of our listeners have written comments and me personally,

how are you and

Mrs.

Hansen doing with your post

trip?

COVID is things on the up and up getting better?

She is,

we're on day 13.

She's better.

She's well.

And I'm starting to have,

I'm negative, but I'm starting to get that old,

what do you call it?

I, you know, two years almost to the day I got COVID, and then I had long COVID for a year and a half.

And I'm starting to.

Be really fatigued, muscle aches.

My tongue is bright yellow.

I can't sleep.

I got neuropathy.

It's that autoimmune that follows it for certain vulnerable people, I guess.

But

I have kept working because I really do believe that what happens to people whose immune systems are hypersensitive and they get COVID and then they don't shut off, that you have to somehow shock it.

And I don't know, some people get, you know, ice baths or ganglion block or.

But for me, what helped is counterintuitive, but I could hardly walk.

And I'm that way now.

I'm so wiped out.

But I try to power walk, and even I'm going to try to jog, just something that will

just, you know, shock my system back to its normal.

Because I was feeling pretty good until June 7th.

Yeah.

And

I had a lot of interesting people wrote me.

And one of the treatments, I know I'm not supposed to talk about it, I'm not a doctor, is there is some evidence from Germany, Jack, that people who take nicotine patches

or chew nicorette gum in certain prescribed doses, it blocks the

it, I'm not an immunologist, but it apparently nicotine is a more powerful receptor and it blocks the immune system's sensitivity to the spike protein.

immune response.

So your immune response that has been in, that hasn't shut off because of spike proteins, whether they're no longer there or they're inert in your gut or something, but it still thinks something's there and it won't shut off.

When you take nicotine for some reason,

that overwhelms that receptor.

And then

they've had some people, it's not scientific.

These are just anecdotal medical reports.

Then they get better.

And I'm going to try it.

I'll see what happens.

I'm going to send you a pack of Marlboro Lights, Victor.

I'm not going to, no.

I don't know if you remember, remember in COVID story, they all had that

narrative that people who smoked didn't get it as bad.

But of course, it's bad for your lungs.

But if you took nicotine straight without the smoke, it might, I mean, nicotine is a very powerful and can be a dangerous drug.

So you have to be very careful with it.

But yeah,

if you felt like I do, like you're let you're,

you know, you get over COVID and then your legs start to feel like lead and your feet feel like they're on fire.

And then you have pins and needles all around your arms and you're dizzy, blurry vision, vertigo, yellow tongue, burning.

It's really weird.

And I had it and I took enough supplements and acupuncture that after a year, a little over a year and a half, or maybe a little under, I got over it.

So I think the only good news is I'm really upbeat because I think that my system

that was, you know, I have this immune problem with mastocytosis, but I think I beat it once and therefore my, my immune system knows how to shut itself off, right?

Yeah.

I'm hoping that it just, you know, it's only been not even two weeks yet.

So maybe this stuff will go away.

That's my point.

I have a lot of stuff to do this summer.

I got to go speak on a Hillsdale cruise.

So I've got to get back into the game, so to speak.

I think our listeners, Victor, are going to be, remember this podcast for the two words you just said.

I'm upbeat, something you very rarely have.

I remember what you say.

Yes.

Well, I have to be because

I don't know.

I just, I've been doing a normal schedule.

I've been doing, you know, three ultras a week, two columns a week,

gosh, three or four

foxes a week, but I haven't.

I think that's really important.

I just don't think the way to beat long COVID is to

aggressively rest and just sleep.

You can't sleep with it anyway, because it makes it makes like your heads on fire buzzing all the time.

Anyway, I'm always interested to a lot of people.

I really appreciate it.

I had a doctor that wrote not too long ago about a particular protocol, and I've had a lot of people do it.

I appreciate it.

Good, good.

Yeah, well, Victor, we're going to talk about Donald Trump's curveball, and we'll get to that right after these important messages.

we're back with the victor davis hansen show recording on friday the 21st of june this particular episode should be out on the i believe the 25th

and victor you've you heard the surprising uh story donald trump said essentially uh you'll i'll be corrected i know if i got the nuance this wrong but a foreigners who graduate from American colleges should graduate with a green card.

They should, we've educated them here.

They should stay here and help make this country and its economy better instead of taking your U.S.

education back to India and using it there to stimulate the Indian economy.

And for example,

personally, I think it's I think it's in America's interest to have the Indian economy stimulated, et cetera, in other countries.

But kind of surprising

policy maybe was off the cuff from Donald Trump.

Your thoughts on this, Victor?

Well,

we're just, the elephant in the room is a law.

So people came here illegally,

number one, and then two, they resided here illegally.

And then three, they often have

ID that's illegal, and that's a trifecta.

So that sets up a pattern of behavior that we don't even talk about.

You know what I mean?

So

why would you reward that type of behavior by just giving an amnesty?

Why wouldn't you say this?

If you

are here and you are illegally, you can pay a fine and for your illegal activity, and then you can go through a citizenship test and apply for it like everybody else rather than privileging the lawbreaker or the person who's waiting in Korea or, you Yugoslavia, the former Yugoslavia or somewhere to come legally.

I don't, and of course,

and why is he doing it now, Jack?

Why is he doing it now?

He's only doing it now because it's part of this pandering that he's talking about the Fed should lower the interest rates,

drain the petroleum reserve, get Obador to send people back from the border,

you know,

forgive student loans.

All of a sudden, he's got this Christmas basket that he thinks it's his money and he can give to all these different groups.

And all the rest of us are just going to say, hmm, I'm so glad you gave that particular group that and that, that, and that, that, where's mine?

And so

he's been there four years.

And so he's doing this.

And then the timing was even worse because we've had these series of these horrific murders and rapes of these wonderful young people who were killed by these thugs and criminals who came here illegally and were released, and they don't even care.

In fact, they make fun.

Joy Reed

was kind of making fun of people who wanted the Marin family and wanted to commemorate what they've gone through.

And so, even Mayorkis, when he said this individual, he didn't even want to know the name of the young mother of five that was killed.

So,

why would he announce an amnesty when the nation has just been rocked by three or four or five brutal murders by illegal alien?

And so I don't know what to say.

I just think that it's part of a theme in this administration that if you play by the so-called rules, you're a sucker.

And if you break them, smash and grab, carjack, swarm a store, go into Columbia, cause havoc, destroy a building, vandalize it, they're going to let you off.

But, but, but

if you're

if you're a political opponent

and you're like a Donald Trump, we have ways of going after you.

And the message then is subliminal, but maybe even more overt is

which side do you want to be on?

You want to be on the left?

If you're on the left, you get exemptions.

You're not going to go to jail for anything.

You think the Bidens are going to go to jail?

No.

So, you know, that's join the winning team.

And you know what?

You don't want to be subject to smash and grab or have your store looted.

But you know what?

We control the judges in these blue states.

We control the juries.

We control the DA.

So you better be nice to us.

Join the team.

We'll find ways of protecting you.

Don't be on the team and

you're going to regret it.

That's how their thuggish logic goes.

So when Bragg says, basically,

we're going to gag order Trump.

We're going to try to put him in prison

by bootstrapping federal law that nobody ever in their right mind would have prosecuted on a non-disclosure form.

But yeah, I'm going to let out all these Columbia because they have a higher moral standard.

They hate Israel.

Good.

They're anti-Semitic.

Good.

They committed, they broke the rules and laws.

Good.

They were violent.

They even attacked police.

Good, good, so far.

They get off.

And that's what's the message?

The message is we want fewer Donald Trump-like people, and We want more people who come from the Middle East and cause havoc.

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yeah we haven't had any in a long time no no no no red rivers no searchers nothing like that no shane yeah yeah well it's uh look some of of these shows that are really popular.

I mean, you have to have the streaming service.

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They're all, you know,

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So,

Victor,

also coming up this week is a debate

between the president and Biden and former president Donald Trump.

It will be on CNN.

There were all sorts of ground rules for how others could participate, hypothetically.

And that only other person who really

could have come close to participating is Robert F.

Kennedy.

And it seems to me, Victor, He's met the criteria for participating.

I was listening earlier today.

Again, we're recording on the 21st of June.

He was on Megan Kelly's podcast.

And I think the basic thresholds he crossed, 15%

in at least four major polls.

And

he's at 15% in five major national polls.

And he's on the ballot in enough states to hypothetically

win the electoral vote.

And he made an interesting point.

He says he's actually on the ballot in a number of states.

And Donald Trump and Joe Biden are not yet on any ballots in any states.

Nevertheless, he won't be participating.

He'll be filing claims with the Federal Election Commission, I believe.

Anyway, Victor, you have any thoughts?

I mean, should is Robert F.

Kennedy, has he enough of us

polling status, whatever,

that he should be in a debate with Donald Trump and Joe Biden at this point?

Yeah,

if they have rules and he met the rules, I'm not acquainted with adjudicating the details of them.

He should be, but he's not going to be in there, believe me,

because

whatever they say or whatever pundits say, he takes more votes from

Joe Biden than he does Donald Trump.

And he has an animus toward the Democratic Party because they have treated him very terribly.

They won't give him Secret Service protection, which is just unfathomable given the family's history.

And so so he will be on that, if he was on that debate stage, his animus would be turned more to Joe Biden and he would get exposure and he would probably

do as well as either one of them and surely much better than Biden.

So they do not want him there.

The other thing is

they go back to the 1980 campaign.

And by the way,

this campaign is, to me, is just eerie how much it's mimicking 1980 when you had a kind of whiny angry incumbent with a terrible record on inflation, terrible foreign policy, Iranian hostages invasion of Afghanistan, the failed Desert One,

and then this horrific rhetoric.

Ronald Reagan is too old.

He's never been part of the federal office holding class.

He's going to blow up the world.

He's dangerous.

And that thing was close, just like it supposedly is now.

That's what we were told.

Gallup polls dead even until I think late October.

And then everybody just said to themselves collectively, do you want this guy?

Do you want inflation with Carter?

Do you want this whiny, sanctimonious hectoring all the time?

Do you want these left-wing people?

Do you want the world falling apart abroad because the United States is weak?

We can't even rescue our hostages.

We can't do anything right.

And you want to be told and sermonized, you know, turn down your thermostat, get used to it, you know, the Malays speech, all of that.

And they just had it, but they didn't tell anybody they had it.

They just came out of nowhere.

Suddenly it was like, I'm going to vote for Reagan.

And they did.

And part of that was, you remember, there was that guy, John Anderson.

I know he was an

independent.

He might have been a Republican at one time, but he ran.

I think he got over 6% of the vote.

Not that it would have made a difference because, you know,

what had been a Gallup poll, I think it was was Carter was even ahead of Reagan three weeks earlier in one poll, but Reagan won by nine points.

But

who knows?

Anderson took six of them.

It would have been a much closer race.

And they don't want anything like that.

And so they remember Ralph Nader in 2000 in Florida.

And they're just merciless.

They even trotted out the whole Kennedy family to call him an apostate and worse.

So they're not going to let him on the stage.

The other thing about the left left is it always tries to outsmart itself.

So basically they said, we're not going to, Trump knows we're not going to debate.

We're just not going to debate.

And then the kingpins in the Democratic Party said, well, wait a minute.

We may be stuck with this guy and he is failing at a geometric rate.

And we don't know what he's going to be like once he gets

the nomination.

And then we're stuck.

We can't get him off the ballot.

So they dreamed up this idea that's never happened in history that we're going to have a debate between two people who are not nominated.

They're not even nominated.

And that was done by Joe Biden.

And he was told, this is your stress test.

You go sleep for four days, take your Adderall.

And by the way, as I said, I had a lot of neurologists call me Jack when I said that.

They said, Victor, Victor, Victor, there you are, the pop doctor.

You have no idea.

The neural, they're pharmaceuticals in our vast array for Alzheimer's and dementia, Adderall is just a minor little tool.

And here's what we use.

And they gave me all these names of all these different drugs that have much more profound effect

and animated effect.

But my point is that

they basically said to Joe Biden, take five days off, take whatever the neurologist gives you and come out like you did in the first debate four years ago, but you have declined since then, or your fiery state of the union or your Phantom of the Opera, semi-fascist, ultra-mega red background speech.

Just be alive.

If you don't,

you're going to have to step down.

We're going to have to release the delegates.

We'll have an open convention.

Camela will run.

We want Camela so much to be treated fairly, but she's just not going to get enough votes.

Josh Shapiro, who Gavin Usen, somebody.

That's what it's about.

So they thought that

Trump wouldn't do this.

Biden did.

And so they made all these rules.

I think you have to stand up.

And they cut your mic when the other person's talking.

And the two,

Dana Bash and Jake Tapper, both on record of hating Trump's guts.

But I actually think it's going to help Trump.

If they can't sit down, it'll help Trump.

If you can't, if you cut the other person from talking, it'll help Trump.

If they have biased

moderators, it will help Trump.

All he has to do is keep his cool, talk about his record, talk about all the terrible things that Biden did and all the damage he's done, and he'll win the debate.

If he does what he did, if he takes Rudy Giuliani and Chris Christie's advice, which they gave him in the first debate of 2020, where you rattle his cage, you get him off strike, and then you go on TV like Chris Christie and attack Trump for being rude and disruptive after he took his own advice,

it won't work.

I think everybody's told Trump that.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I wonder

if I see him making some cracks at Biden about like, did you drink your antifreeze before it starts?

Or hold on to the podium so you don't wander off, Joe.

Robert Kennedy would have been, it would have been very interesting.

I don't agree with almost anything he's said.

He has a moderate veneer, but it's not really accurate.

He's very hard left.

But, you know, he did write that, the real Anthony Fauci book.

And

Jeffrey Anderson and the Tom Kleinstein

online magazine, which is really good.

It's, it's, uh, Tom Kleinstein's a wonderful guy.

He's the chairman of the board of the Claremont Institute, I think.

Claremont, he's a big anti-woke warrior.

Yeah, he's very good.

He's very successful in business, but very speaks well and writes even better.

And

Jeffrey Anderson, a former DOJ guy, I think he was with Trump, he went and looked at that book and he said, you know, there's a lot of mistakes in it, but there's a lot of good things that he warned us about, Anthony Fauci, the $50 billion that the NIH has, and he has his fingers in a lot of it at the National Institute of Allergies and Infectious Diseases, and how he wasn't, you know, they always attacked Scott Atlas.

He's a radiologist, even though Scott had been writing about health policy for 20 years.

And then you look at Anthony Fauci.

He's never practiced medicine, never.

He went right from medical school, right to the bureaucracies.

He had no expertise in immunology or biology at all.

And what he did, and he raises the question

as

in this book, Robert Kinney didn't say so because the evidence was more tenuous then.

But if you, and you and I have talked about that, and by the way, Jock, we're going to have Stephen Quay on this show again.

He wrote me today, and

he gave a devastating testimony.

Yeah.

Boy, about

both about the origins in the lab and what they are still doing in the lab,

which is even more frightening.

But this was congressional testimony this past week on.

I don't think anybody who looked at that testimony and the poor people that the Fauciites could believe that some pangolin or bat caused this problem.

And from somebody who's had long COVID and two bad bouts with it, there's something about this virus.

It's not the flu.

I've had the flu.

I've had malaria.

Trying to think the other day.

I've had amoebic dysentery.

I've had malaria overseas.

I've had the flu.

I've had a long bout of Mono.

I've never had a viral or bacterial illness like this.

There's something about it that it had to be engineered.

It's so infectious,

and that spike protein just, for some people, just

destroys your immune system.

But anyway, the point I'm making is in this good essay by Anderson, he points out that when all is said and done,

the logical conclusion is that Anthony Fauci,

a person who was at the top of U.S.

federal authorities and experts, knew it was against the law to give money to support gain of function research because it was too dangerous.

And he gave money to Echo Health, Peter Dossick, claimed he didn't know him very well, but he did.

And then Peter Dossick gave it to the Wuhan Law, supposedly so they could share in the findings.

And Francis Collins knew about this.

And there might have been other expertise that can't be quite documented.

In other words, once that Fauci put his

seal of approval, then there were other people who offered advice about the correct instrumentation, protocols,

about how to conduct this research off the books.

And

when you conclude, it's Anthony Fauci basically was the fox that went into the hen house.

And then he was the person, the farmer, who said, We've got to get rid of the fox.

And I'm going to protect you all from myself.

That's basically what happened.

So he was basically compromised from the very beginning because he could never be honest about vaccinations, masking, social distancing, nationals, quarantine, because there were two things that prevented him.

One, for his entire life, he's been a political hack and on the left side and he hated Donald Trump.

So every decision he made was calibrated or his supporters calibrated or they were told him to calibrate it to injure Donald Trump's reelection and it did.

And then number two, to cover up the fact that he had done something that was morally

unthinkable by giving these reckless Chinese under the People's Liberation Army lab

the expertise or the wherewithal or some money to create a virus that they had no business engineering.

Anyway, Robert Kennedy wrote about that first.

So I admire him for that.

By the way, two things, Victor, one on Kway and one on Fauci.

Fauci was on The View

this past week where

he mentioned our mutual high school, but he

played the martyr and gave the Latin expression of don't let the bastards get you down.

And of course, the women on the view,

you know, they

patted the head of the little man.

But the other thing with Kway, and I really do encourage folks to try to find

the

testimony he offered.

He wrote it and his last name is spelled Q-U-A-Y.

He's on X slash Twitter.

Really troubling.

And here's just one little section.

By the way, he talked about, as he's talked about on the show, Victor, I think they've been the most terrific podcast you've done with him about the origins and why this was obviously manufactured in a lab and not from some bat.

But he said

he gave this in his testimony.

Finally, while not related to the origin, I will end by describing the unpublished dangerous research being done at the Wuhan Institute of Virology on a MERS virus, 30% lethal to humans, and a NYFA NYPA, NIPA virus, over 70% lethal to humans.

My preliminary analysis is that any epidemic with a 15% or greater lethal virus will cause a civilizational collapse that will last longer than 250 years.

And this

crap is going on.

And remember one of the things he got armed taxpayer dollars.

And remember another thing he said.

He said that when they were engineering gain of function, they were claiming they were doing so to do what?

To develop a vaccine, which they developed pretty quickly after ours.

And so whatever they're doing as far as gain of function, they are working at the same time simultaneously with a vaccination against it, which has got all the hallmarks to tell you the truth.

I'm not a conspiracy theorist, but of a bioweapon.

And so

there's something going on with China right now.

I don't know what it I don't know why this Chinese balloon drifted taking pictures over the United States.

I don't know why they bought a quarter million acres near military installations.

I don't know why these Chinese single males, 30,000 of them, have been able to leave China, apparently with the blessings of the Chinese government, and they're coming in here.

I do not know why there's Chinese biolabs that turned up in my part of the woods.

I do not know

why

China gives

billions of dollars of fentanyl to the cartels.

And then when the cartels sell the fentanyl and it kills 100,000 Americans, they launder it through Chinese companies.

And

China makes it both ways, both selling the money and then getting a cut on the laundering.

But there's something there, isn't there?

They have a multi-pronged attack on the United States.

And I don't understand this government.

I do not understand why Joe Biden allows these foreign entities to give money.

And they've been, I mean, Donald Trump, Betsy DeVos did a wonderful job and found all the

basically foreign money that was against the law to be given without being recorded.

And Stanford got fined.

But these Chinese have been giving money to universities, as are Middle Eastern governments.

And at some point, somebody says, you're not going to have biolabs in the United States by anybody who's a Chinese national.

I'm sorry.

I'm sorry.

You're not going to have the Chinese cartels come in in California and get into the marijuana business.

We're not going to allow you to

export

fentanyl to Mexico to kill us, and we're not going to allow you to launder the money backwards.

And we're not going to let any more Chinese males into the United States.

I'm sorry.

Why can't we do that?

I don't understand that.

And

this administration,

you know what?

This administration basically goes back to a woke Marxist binary, oppressor, victimizer versus oppress, victimize.

And they on that

equation, they put so-called white, male, Christian, heteros, whatever on the left side, the oppressor ledger, and then the victim is non-white.

victim of colonialization.

And it's all arbitrary, of course, and constructed.

And in this paradigm, somebody like Israel loses because they're law-abiding, they're transparent, they're democratic, they're constitutional, they're technological, and they play by the rules.

And somebody like China wins, and they're the victim.

And that's, and the same thing with Venezuela and all these countries that are emptying their prisons.

And it gets back to that simplicity.

That's how they look, view the world and who they are, I don't know.

but

dei is a very very dangerous historically it's a very very dangerous ideology it's like the commissariat in the soviet union

it's uh

it's sort of like at corsair that thucydides third book when he talks about the stasis on the item of modern carfu anytime you have an ideology and that trumps merit and logic, or Orwell wrote about it, it's very dangerous, whether it's hiring incompetent pilots on the basis of race or

you name it.

Did you see that Disney thing that James O'Keefe sprung the other day?

The

video.

Yeah,

he did one of his undercover

filmings of,

I don't know, senior executive vice president, somebody, you know, not a flunky at Disney, who just, yeah, gave case, not case studies, but examples internally, including himself.

Like, Jim, no way you're getting that promotion.

We're just no way a white male's getting that or a new position.

Yeah, we're not hiring any white males.

Don't even think about it.

Victor, you know this.

This is this

academia.

It's getting viral, but you've experienced this sort of stuff.

I've been on a hiring committee back in the 90s when the dean called me up.

I won't mention his name.

He's passed away.

And he said, by the way, Victor, you have two classics positions.

You're not hiring a white male.

I don't care care what you do.

I will not sign that.

And I said, that's against the law.

We passed Prop 209.

So I don't care what you pass.

And I went on the committee and

they said, well, it's a federal law.

I've done that in my time.

I had a guy when I applied for a job in 1980 with a freshly minted PhD.

I was 26, and I won't mention the major.

It was one of the academies, and they had a military historian of the ancient ancient world.

And I had a book coming out and the guy said to me, you gave a great interview, but I want to tell you right now, he walked out with me after the interview.

And if you repeat this, I will deny it.

You're not going to get this job.

We're going to hire a woman.

And I said,

well,

you're a male.

And he said, don't give me that crap.

I got in under the wire.

I'm not going to try to.

to say that you know I'd get a job now.

I wouldn't.

I'm not as qualified as you are.

I wouldn't.

But that doesn't mean I'm going to give up my job.

So stop that crap.

You're not going to get a job.

And I'm saying this not because I hate you, because I like you.

I remember it word for word.

And that was just a way.

I remember that because that was

40,

44 years ago.

And when I hear this stuff's been going on for 44 years, and then I hear people say, oh, we're so oppressed.

We're this, we're that.

44 years.

And this was 10 years into it.

I can remember going into graduate school in 1975 and the chairman of the department, who was a wonderful man, said,

look, there's three of you guys.

You're all white males.

You're not going to get a job.

I just wanted to tell you that.

You are not going to get a job.

Now, we're going to support you for four years, but we want you to sign this little note that says that you accept that you're not going to get a job.

So we don't have you come back and sue us and say, and we did.

Can you imagine?

We signed this little form.

Said, we understand that it'll be highly unlikely you will get a job.

That's almost 50 years ago.

Yeah.

50 years ago.

So, and who was it for?

Was it for people in the inner city?

No.

Was it for Mexican-American people around here?

No.

It was for a bunch of elites, elites, wealthy, it was for the Obama class, the Ultra class, the Megan Markle class.

And

who were the ones that promulgated?

Wealthy, wealthy, privileged white people.

on the bicoastal who always had privilege.

And basically their rationale was, well, my dad dad used to get me the job, or my mom got me into Harvard, or my grandfather was an old Princeton donor, or my cousin is in the State Department, got me a job.

And so I'm protected, so it won't hurt me.

So I am going to use that old boy network, but I'll calibrate it by race.

So we'll get the black and brown elite to get the same prejudicial bias that I got.

And who's going to suffer?

That stupid, deplorable, and the Bronx and Ohio and Iowa, the irredeemable,

whom John McCain called the Hobbits, the crazies, who Joe Biden called the dregs, the

chumps, and Barack Obama called them the Klingers, Hillary, deplorables, and irredeemable.

That's who suffered.

And they don't exist anymore.

You can't get into those universities on merit with an SAT if you're a poor white male.

You're just not going to do it.

And so

the whole thing is just disturbing.

And that's what happens when you have this ideological war against merit.

And,

you know, it was such a farce.

I remember that now, now that I bring it up, I remember he said, what would you teach if you hear it?

I outlined a history of war from the ancient to modern world.

I was only 25.

And he said, now,

what's your thesis?

I said, well, it's going to come out in Italy.

It's a book.

Oh,

it was that that kind of, it was just a complete waste of time.

And so he finally said, I'm very sorry.

You know, I want to walk out with you, but

you gave great answers, but it was a waste of time.

So I,

so

I just went and farmed for five years.

You know what?

I can't do this anymore.

It's just a waste of time.

And it was.

And yet, I don't like to hear then.

And you know, the other thing I'm getting on a rant now, but another thing is-

Rant away, my friend.

I've done this before.

I started a classics department in 1984

at a university that was 70% minority.

And my whole dream was to teach kids that had not had advantages.

And I don't mean by race, but by class.

So we had the children of the Oklahoma diaspora, Okies from Tulare, Bakersfield.

people at Goshen.

We had Hispanics.

We had blacks.

We had a lot of Southeast Asians.

And I've been over backwards.

I spent, I gave it one, I would teach five classes a semester with over 200 students, no TA.

I collected, I did that for 20 years, and then I would have 10 to 12 independent studies and writing, Greek composition, Latin composition, Aeschylus, Xenophon, Cicero, you name it, so that they would have a full curricula.

And then they would apply to law school, med school, PhDs, teaching, they were all very, it was very successful.

And two of my students, I had a great partner in Bruce Thornton, but two of my students are running that program now.

Okay, what's my point?

After doing all that and seeing all this success, then Woke came in, right?

And Woke said, you don't have to do that.

Because I could really make the argument that if a student got a BA and a two-year MA at Cal State Fresno, that they would know Latin and Greek under our protocol better than a kid would at Princeton or Stanford.

I could tell you that.

They did.

They were very bright kids, and they did very well.

Many of them are professors now.

Poor white kids, brown kids, black, et cetera.

But here's

what really gets me.

So then the woke comes, and I look at these people now that were very successful in their 40s and 50s, right?

And guess what?

They're woke.

I get every once in a while a request, would you, hey, Professor Hanson, remember me, would you write me a recommendation?

I want to be the DEI coordinator at this place and I want to do this.

And they're all left-wing now.

And they're all, they're writing that thing.

They were never that way before.

And they got a wonderful education.

There was absolutely zero prejudice.

In fact, we got them scholarships.

I had the McClatchy Foundation give us money.

And I tried to give every dime.

I didn't use one dime.

James McClatchy said, here, here's this money.

You might want to go on a trip for your research.

I said, no, I won't spend one penny.

It'll go to the students only.

And we did that.

And

I look back at it and I think, wow.

So we were working, Bruce and I were working, you know, overtime free classes and just to give people an equality of opportunity.

They got the equality of opportunity.

They excelled.

And believe me, when you called up Princeton or Harvard or Yale or Stanford and you said, I've got a student from Cal State Fresno you need to look at, you know what the first question was?

Are they white?

They're white.

Because if they're white, we don't want them.

I'm serious.

And it was very hard to get white males.

And I worked just as equally, if not harder, for them because they had...

But then to hear that this was a prejudicial racial society and you can't make it unless you're a white person and they get all the privilege.

It just didn't, it didn't compute, at least in academia.

And to hear these students that were given all of that attention and got all of the affirmative action, and then in their 30s and 40s and 50s to turn back and say, This is a racist society.

It just, and so my attitude was, I'm done.

I don't like it's every once in a while, someone writes me and I said, Nope,

I don't exist.

I don't exist anymore.

You can find somebody else, but I'm not going to participate in this.

Well, Victor,

we dropped the name of Alvin Bragg and universities, and that's that might be the last topic we'll take on.

Him dropping charges for the

Columbia University terrorists, I'll call them that.

We'll get your thoughts on that, Victor, after these final important messages.

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Victor, you remember Gomer Pyle?

Surprise.

Yes, I do.

Surprise, right?

Jim Neighbors.

Yes.

Jim Neighbors, yeah.

It became, of course, a sarcastic use.

And I think it's applicable that surprise, surprise, surprise, what Alvin Bragg has done here.

Nobody's surprised that he's dropped these charges.

No evidence.

We don't have enough evidence for what they were doing when they invaded the campus hall.

Of course, the New York City cops are like, what the hell are you talking about?

We have the body cams on.

Of course, we have evidence.

He knows.

That's what I was talking about, deterrence.

His message is clear.

If you're going to...

protest, even violently and break the law or violate your student visa and your cause is correct, that is, you're against Israel, you're anti-Semitic, you're for the Hamas terrorist, and that I translate that as being part of DEI,

and then you're exempt.

And hey, everybody on campus, you got the message?

Now, if you're Jewish and you push back, we're going to go clamp down like you won't believe.

And as far as the asymmetry between you people who were violent and committed felonies and Donald Trump, who had a non-disclosure form, I don't know,

10 years ago for an alleged incident 18 years ago.

Well, we're going to go after him.

We're going to gag him.

We're going to try to bankrupt him.

We're going to try to destroy him.

Now, what is the lesson of that, everybody, in New York?

Huh?

If you're a big stockbroker, if you're a developer, or you have to put your asset, go talk to Letita James, maybe, or maybe talk to Judge Kaplan on the Gene Carroll case.

And I think what you'll learn is it makes sense.

If you want to do business in New York, you better donate to, I don't know, the next time Letita runs or Alvin Bragg runs, donate.

And next time your kid is on campus, make sure he's demonstrating for the correct cause and he will have political exemption and legal exemption.

And that's what the message is.

The only thing I don't understand is why there have not been more defections from

the Jewish community, the left-wing community, the business community, the Wall Street community, all of those people, because they all have targets on their back.

And do they think they can make a special deal with an Alvin Bragg or a Liquida James or

Eric Mayor Adams or what?

I don't know.

I saw Michael Bloomberg gave

$20 million to Joe Biden.

Did you see that?

I did.

Yeah.

What is his logic there?

I'm giving up because he's a great supporter of Israel Israel or he's done so much to protect Jewish students at Columbia.

Is that why?

Yeah.

Or is it because Donald Trump made fun of him?

Probably the latter.

Let's say you are

a Jewish academic Democrat in one of these major cities

and

you did say, screw this.

I'm rejecting the Democrats.

I'm going to hold my nose and vote for Trump.

Or even not politically, you just say I'm rejecting these people.

Well, I wonder what are the actual consequences of this.

Well, look at Bill Ackerman.

Is that Ackman?

Ackman, yeah.

As soon as he did that, they went after his wife and went back to her thesis and then claimed that she had footnoted him properly.

And then they went through his life and her life and tried to destroy them.

So that's why people, that's how they operate.

And that's why they hate Trump so much.

Trump just basically says, I don't care.

You can say anything you want about me.

I don't, right?

I've been, I've had a risque, wild life, and I don't, I don't have any apologies for it.

Go ahead and do whatever you want.

You do your worst.

I'll do my best.

We'll see who win.

That's his attitude.

Yeah, most people don't have the stomach for that.

You know, they do.

They don't

endure this.

No, I don't.

Jay Botticheri telling us has talked about what my dear good friends immediately abandoned them because on me.

Hey, hell on me.

All of a sudden,

right during the COVID thing, and I wrote letters supporting,

I mean, two op-eds supporting Scott Atlas, one, I think, Jay.

And then

I did some podcasts about the lab origins and that we shouldn't trust Dr.

Fauci.

Very early on, by the way, the next thing I know, I get a letter from the Stanford alumni group that I have been out of my lane and that I've had complaints and I'm going to be ostracized.

Next thing I know, I've got to look at transcripts from my institution.

Anything I said on Tucker, I have to go over every single word so that the faculty senate at Stanford doesn't censor me.

Next thing I know, I go to the Stanford

studio because Hoover has a little studio, but it closes at 5 Pacific time.

I want to go and the next thing I know, they call me up and said, nope, we're not going to let you use it unless you write out in advance everything you're going to say tonight.

I said, how do I know what?

I don't even know what the topic is.

What am I going to do that?

Well, you can't use it.

Sorry, go to Oakland.

And

it's just incredible.

I said to them, have you ever heard some of the people at Stanford, what they say on MSNBC and CNN?

It's just wild.

It's crazy stuff.

I've been in the green room listening to it before I go on.

I don't know about that, but you're not going to be able to use our studio.

And that was Stanford University.

And then I complained, and then Fox complained, and they said, okay, you're right.

We overstep.

You can do it.

And then

I go in there, they go, oh, by the way, you got to write out.

And we were, you still got to write out.

That's how it is.

So all the rewards, and especially in academia, are on the other side.

That's why Scott was so brave.

Scott, I watched that happen at Stanford.

I could not believe it.

I thought, when we were going into that epidemic, I said, wow,

we've got the three top people in public health in the world on the Stanford campus.

John Yiannides, the immunologist who proved from the day one that the whole Theranos blood tester was a scam, impossible, defied the laws of science, it wouldn't work, warned everybody.

And then Jay Bacharia, who was well respected as a public health immunologist and had a PhD in economics.

And then Scott Atlas, who for 20 20 years had been writing about healthcare policy and the dangers of the bureaucratic octopus.

And

I think it was Michael Levette, who was the Nobel Prize winner, biologist.

Okay,

medical biologist.

So I thought, wow, Stanford.

And sure enough.

When the thing started, they were writing articles.

It might not be wise to shut down the economy.

A national quarantine has never been envisioned for the following reasons.

It might be better to warn people that coronaviruses

mutate like the common cold, some of the common cold viruses or some of the flu viruses.

And therefore, it's not quite accurate to say that 96%

defense about being infected are infecting people.

It's not going to last very long.

They mutate.

Or I don't think there's any scientific basis to say that keeping six feet apart is going to stop the spread of the virus.

Or it seems that the scientific data so far shows that if you're under 18,

you have for some reasons, and we can discuss those reasons, they said,

immunity, and it might not be necessary to keep them out of school given the damage.

Or, by the way, everybody, if you go ahead with this ill-fated lockdown, the incidence of spousal abuse, substance abuse, alcohol abuse, suicide, economic destruction will be far more in terms of total lives lost when we look back at this than the virus.

In other words, there are going to be more people dying from the efforts to curb the virus than the virus itself.

Oh, by the way, if you want to go ahead with this quarantine, just concentrate on the older people.

Don't let people

go back and forth into rest homes among that vulnerable population.

Keep them isolated.

That's all they said.

That's exactly.

I just quoted what the three of them said.

And the next thing I knew, they were persona non grata

at

Stanford.

And anybody who

tried to support them was persona non grata.

Next thing I knew, I was going to be censored by the

faculty senate, and I was attacked in the Stanford Daily, and

it was just bullying.

By the, wasn't he the

poet who was head of

stanford's antifa yeah the and the person who founded stanford antifa who was head of the english apartment i think in 12 years had not written more than one book and was suggesting that neil ferguson and i were not scholars and i think neil pointed out we in that period of which he'd been on tenure we'd written together, I mean, separately, but aggregate, the two of us, over 15 books.

And he was suggesting that we were,

and he had tweeted something like 600,000 times.

It was just a circus.

And what they did to Jay and Scott was the worst of all.

And they still haven't un-censored him.

That censor of Scott's still in effect symbolically.

They tried to take his license away, and that failed.

But he went through hell, and he didn't back down, not once.

So that really taught me a lot about,

no, I knew about it, but I had had something like that when I wrote Mexifornia, when I came to the Cal State campus.

I think I said, and the voice of Ocelon had my picture with a

target, you know, like a scope, crosshairs.

My nose was on the crosshairs.

And I went to complain to the president.

He said, well, you're in the arena.

That's what you do.

Get used to it.

So

that's the way academia works.

That's so everybody understands that.

You just have to decide how you're going to adjust to it.

Are you going to go along with it and have kind of a, I don't know, mediocrity?

You look at yourself in the mirror and say, I'm mediocre.

I'm going along with this.

Are you going to try to challenge?

If you try to challenge, you got to be very careful because it's going to take a toll on you, your family, your income, and everything.

And that's why this podcast has been so wonderful.

That once we got off the National Review and Stanford platforms, then we were responsible for ourselves.

And we don't have to listen to people say, you can't say that.

You know?

They just

say other things.

Mostly at me.

I had a wonderful email from somebody about

Sammy's

seductive voice.

And

maybe that was her COVID voice, huh?

It was a COVID voice.

Yeah, yeah.

Some people do write about interesting things.

Hey, Victor, rounding the turn here and almost at the finish line, I do want to encourage our listeners.

We have a lot of

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You will find links to Victor's various appearances, his essays for American Greatness, that's every week, his weekly syndicated column, links to his books, the archives of these podcasts.

and to ultra articles, which are the pieces two or three times a week that Victor writes exclusively for the Blade of Perseus.

To read them and you want to read them because you're a fan of Victor, you need to subscribe.

It's $5 a month, $50 discounted for the full year.

So that's theblade of Perseus VictorHanson.com.

If you've yet to get Victor's current bestseller, The End of Everything, you will find a link there.

And I'm going to encourage the overlords of the website to put a link up for the forthcoming new edition, updated edition of your former bestseller, soon to be a bestseller again, I predict.

The case for Trump, which we discussed last week, you have 20,000 words, new words in there in that book.

So we'll get a hopefully get a link up there from Amazon that people can find that.

Victor writes, well,

he tweets or X's at X, and he had occasionally writes along

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exceptionally wise rant.

You'll find his handle at VD Hansen on that platform.

What else?

On Facebook, VDH's Morning Cup.

Go look for it, sign up.

It's also the Victor Davis Hansen Fan Club.

It's not no official link with this podcast or with Victor formally, but wonderful people run that.

I think you'll like it.

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I write Civil Civil Thoughts, the free weekly email newsletter from the Center for Civil Society.

You go, go, go to civilthoughts.com, sign up every Friday.

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People leave comments, Victor, as you know, on your website or on various platforms, particularly Apple.

Thanks for whatever platform you listen to the podcast on.

They rate the show zero to five stars.

You have a 4.9 plus rating

for that.

And as for the comments, here's one.

And it's titled Dumping on Your Property.

Hello, Victor.

I'm frustrated when I hear how often people dump on your vineyard.

Victor, why don't you fence off your orchard?

Is it just impractical?

And this is signed Bhatia from Las Vegas.

It is.

But my renter built a um a barrier to one of the alleyways and it's been knocked down three times but this barrier you should see it jack

it looks like it's the golden gate bridge steel and the other side see you have alleyways that you that the people come in and out to irrigate fertilize and if you have to lock them all the time and then the tree It's very hard to get the tractor in between a fence given the side of the road.

You lose a whole row.

And

what I usually do is I try to get up about 5.30 in the morning.

I haven't been doing it because it's long COVID as well.

But I walk about a mile and a half around the circumference, and then I do it again at night.

And I would say once out of every eight or nine walks, I meet somebody who is a potential A, fornicator, B, drug injector, C, dumper, E, illegal shooter.

And they want, by means they either want to inject drugs, they want to fornicate, they want to shoot protected great horn owls, red-tailed hawks, you name it, or they just have a whole trader full of stuff.

And

this latest one, when

I was sick, I went out there and it's laminated wood.

It's like a...

It must be enough to cover 700 square feet.

And they just took, it's all used and dirty, and they just took it and they threw it out in the orchard.

They threw the glue to the adhesive canisters.

They threw, and then they just threw anything else from their,

you know, and I'm not trying to be stereotypical, but usually when I try, I always try to go through it to see if I can just find an address, right?

Right.

And I have done that in the past, and I went over to persons and dumped the stuff in his yard, almost got shot.

But he said it wasn't his fault because there are local people that go out, see, and they advertise and said, hey, we'll get rid of your stuff for you.

Right.

drunk removal yeah yes and they just dump it at people's vineyards or orchards but uh in this case, there was a lot of things, and they were in Spanish.

They're always in Spanish.

So I'm not saying that I'm just being empirical that

the literature, the ads and stuff.

So it's people.

I don't think it's citizens.

I think it's people from across the border that come up here and they're used to that in Mexico or South America or Latin America or Central America.

But every single person that I have met.

in the last 20 years was, I think, illegal doing it.

In other words, they didn't speak English and they spoke Spanish, but I don't know what country they were from, all of them.

And you have to be very careful because some of them, what do you do when you say, take that trailer around and take all that crap?

And, you know, I mentioned that one of the funniest one was, it must weigh at least a thousand pounds.

It's one of those refrigerator freezers, you know, those long, low ones.

It's huge.

It's an industrial one, obviously from a

restaurant or something.

And it just threw it out in the orchard.

I went by, and there's two washing machines now that are where I walk every morning.

They came in and threw out, and then it's really bad because there are ponds there and they fill up, and then you see all the stuff junk.

When I was farming full-time, and what's even sadder is it's part of the original 135 acres, and I'm the last one here that has property.

They are all my siblings, you know, they moved away and they sold.

And I didn't have the money to

buy them out.

So, I have all these neighbors, but I still walk.

I like the neighbors, so I walk on the property that used to be mine.

And so, and to see that and my own property, I have a very good renter, and he's, he's meticulous about if I call him up and say, hey, you know, a guy came in last night and he threw all this stuff, he'll come out and get it out.

A lot of it's tires.

Some of it is so gross, I can't even mention on the air the treatise from illegal drugs or sex or whatever they're doing.

And I think I've mentioned sometimes I've come around and seen people right in the act of this, and then they yell and scream at you as if you're a voyeur.

Come on my place, take all your clothes off, engage in some sick sexual act.

And if you happen to walk by, you're a voyeur and you're intruding on my privacy.

That's their attitude.

Or I came out here to beat up my girlfriend so nobody could hear me and call the police.

Now, why are you bothering me when I want to hit her in the head?

That kind of stuff.

Yeah, I think I think to Spatia from Las Vegas, you maybe need a moat

instead of a fence.

Yeah, it's

and our dogs are getting

our Queensland brood is getting old.

One of them's just back from surgery.

Spotty, who's been here 14, died this year, and the other two can hardly move.

I got to make a decision what to do, whether to get

go full German, and by that I mean German Shepherd, Weimaroner, or Doberman, you know,

or Queensland again, or do I want to even buy dogs anymore?

Because you can't go anywhere.

You know,

I'm kind of chained here because you have to find somebody to stay here and feed them.

Anyway, these are just psychodramas that are not important.

No, this is a day in the life of Victor Davis Hansen, and it's unlike the days most people live.

By the way, I found a second email about it.

It's titled Wink versus Fowler.

Sammy Wink's mellifluous voice is very calming.

That's very nice.

And he says, conversely, your New York delivery is equally as delightful in its brutal directness.

So that's Greg.

Thank you.

Complimentary.

Cool.

Yeah, whatever.

Yin, yang.

Yeah.

A peanut butter and chocolate.

Make these.

But of course, you're the cream of the crop here, Victor.

All right, Victor, you've been terrific.

Really, really great.

Folks, thanks so much for hanging with us and listening.

And we will be back soon with another episode of the Victor Davis Hanson Show.

Bye-bye.

Thank you, everybody.