Woke Jihadism

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In this episode, Victor Davis Hanson and cohost Jack Fowler discuss the Hunter gun verdict and justice that "works," Paul Ryan's revealing interview, hostages saved in Gaza and a US hostage deal, Biden's polls tanking, and General Milley in the news again.

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I was leading a group of 160 touristos, very wonderful people all through Normandy for the 80th anniversary.

And given the brilliance of my partner, Al Phillip, and the workmanlike effort, boy, we had some great lectures by three Hillsdale faculty, Mark Kalkov, the famous Tom Connor, and Ken Calvert.

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And guess what?

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without a hitch.

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Unlike you with your air travel, hitchless.

Yes, and I get in the plane.

I mean, it was a little long.

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then she heroically volunteered to go up to a medical person we knew and got Paxlavid.

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And I don't know which worst the side effects of Paxlavid are

getting rid of or the COVID.

But then she got it again.

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And she never took Paxlavid.

I took it because I thought that I could avoid the year and a half of long COVID from the last bout.

But anyway, the point I'm trying to make excuse is if I don't feel normal, if I don't sound normal, it's because I'm dealing with a COVID fever.

How's that?

Well, you,

two arms, two intellectual arms tied behind your back are smarter than the rest of us.

I feel really bad because I got back and I was all excited to go back on

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if I cackle or I have a brain freeze, it's not because I'm Joe Biden or Kamala Harris.

I've got cold.

Well,

today is June 11th.

I think this episode will be out tomorrow on the 12th.

And it's timely, Victor, in that we will be talking about the big news of the day.

There's big news every day in America now.

But the big news today in particular, is the conviction of Hunter Biden.

We'll also get your thoughts on the Israel raid that freed the hostages and the insane criticism of Israel that's followed that.

And then our friend Julie Kelly and others have been reporting on your favorite military person, Victor, and that is General Milley and his amazing arrogance.

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Victor,

we did talk the other day.

I didn't think a jury in Delaware would convict Hunter Biden.

And then you had Jill Biden, his stepmother, flying in and back and forth on millions of dollars of taxpayer costs to get her in the courthouse.

Yeah, the DNC would have, it'll have to reimburse that.

That was so flagrant.

Yeah.

He's convinced Bright Suits.

Yeah, well,

I mean, there wasn't,

it was an open and shut case.

The question was,

did he file a false affidavit when he said he was drug-free?

And then all he had to do was play the recording.

where he read from his own book.

And he said at that time, he was hooked on drugs and was out of it.

And they had testimonies that that was corroborated.

And so the only question was, as you point out, would the jury nullify the evidence?

And they did that

to his disadvantage.

But

I think the left feels now, from what I can tell, I haven't been able to watch much TV, but

from what I've been reading, they feel that now it proves that justice works in America.

In other words,

they did checkmate and took out

the black king and then their white pawn.

It makes it even.

No, no, no, no.

There's no comparison between those cases.

That case was open and shut.

You can argue that they filed it because they had tried to hide it.

If they had just from the very beginning, the prosecutors had just very just

indicted him for a fraud, treated him like anybody else, it'd be over.

But the idea they tried to give him special treatment, boomerang.

And now he's set up for the tax.

This is minor stuff, Jack, compared to the income tax.

So that is, that's even more open and shut.

I mean, the IRS, it's just an open and shut case.

You have the filing deadline and you have your tax form and you send it in.

And then you can quibble about what you owe.

But he didn't even file on that income.

He never reported it.

Right.

And so it's just a question of

then he did later, which was an admission of guilt.

But it just, you know, it's, it really is going to destroy two of the Joe Biden campaign narratives.

And I think all of our listeners are so sick of,

you know, we have too many guns and the second the guns and the NRA.

Well, yeah, if you really feel bad about the misuse of guns, talk to your own son and tell tell your own son, don't use drugs when you have a loaded gun in the house.

Just don't do it.

And don't lie to my government to get a gun when you're a drug addict.

That's all you have to do.

And now the second narrative,

remember the second narrative?

Pay your fair share.

We're going to make everybody pay their fair share.

We got a lot of rich people up.

Before you lecture America who does pay their fair share, just tell your son

and your brother and your other brother and look in the mirror and say to yourself, the Bidens will report all the income from whatever source it came from, and we will pay pay our full and fair share.

So I don't think he's going to be lecturing during the campaign season about

the evils of handguns or the Second Amendment or the wealthy not paying their income tax.

Just not

maybe Russian disinformation.

Or maybe

how his son was, didn't he say his son was the smartest person he knew?

Smartest man he's ever talked to, yeah, that he ever met.

I don't think we're going to be hearing that either.

But I don't think we're going to be hearing anything because he is declining at a

there was a, he went to that Juneteenth celebration with a lot of African-Americans, and they were all sort of dancing to a music or swaying.

Did you see him?

I did.

He just went into a catatonic state.

Like the cigar store Indian just.

So

we're getting into Woodrow Wilson territory where he's going to have to be secluded and then deny all people denied access to him and then jill's going to have to ruin the country they're going to try to

carry this off i said in an earlier podcast and i've had a lot of people question that that he would not run for president

and that's what i think the whole um i really do believe that this historic june debate was all

forced down his throat by the donor class and the political class who said,

look,

you go out there and you take your Avarol or whatever stimulant you take and you beat him, and then we're going to get behind you.

But if you screw up, we need time to get rid of you and to release your delegates and have a normal convention.

And that's what it's all about.

You just pointed out the freezing.

I could see someone freezing at Parkinson's.

I know people go through brain fog, but that

weird thing in Normandy of the

squat, which people are now making fun of.

I've seen it.

I've seen what that was.

I don't like.

I have a,

I don't know what it is.

I think

I have a dislike of scandalical jokes, you know, like, yeah, I really like Greg Gunfield, but one thing I don't follow on his show is all the jokes about

flat

and pooping.

I just don't like it.

But so I didn't follow that, but then I looked at the video.

What was he doing?

Well,

you think he was relieving himself?

I hope to hell not.

I just think it's even whatever he was doing,

it's weird.

And

it's worse than, to me, we're here to listen to your views,

worse than a brain fog

to be weird is just weird.

And we don't expect that as

the thing about Joe Biden, I think, that people that bother them is that

he is weird.

And I mean that, you know, in a not a political sense, just a descriptive analytical context.

By that, I mean this whole thing that we talked earlier about, you know, swimming nude in front of the secret service, Frank Biden and his selfie naked thing showing up on a porn site, Hunter's

taking pictures of his own genitalia, Ashley Biden's confessional diary about showering with her dad, the squeezing the girls and blowing in their hair, the terror reads.

It's just too much.

And then when you put that into the corruption of the whole Biden family, and then that yelling and screaming, that get off my grass, it just, the whole Biden family in general, and Joe in particular, are just so off-putting.

And,

you know, there was Paul Ryan.

I was in a kind of a daze today, and I watched him.

He was on Neil Cavoodle on Fox, was tuning in.

Never watched daytime TV, but what else is there to do?

You've got COVID.

And

it was really weird about Paul Ryan.

It was the most

self-condemnatory little interview I've ever heard.

He said, well, you know,

we thought he was a moderate.

He promised to be moderate.

And he wasn't.

And, you know, that's how he won the 20,000 votes in Wisconsin that Trump had won in 2016.

And I don't know what we're going to do now.

And I'm thinking, you idiot, you turned the country over to the hard left, and you were warned by everybody that he was part of a Faustian bargain.

That Star Trek episode of the dope guy who's controlled by the powers that be on that planet, that's what the Obamas were doing, Susan Rice, the whole shebang.

Everybody knew what they were doing.

And you empowered that and people like you are responsible.

And now you have the gumption to come on television and shrug that he wasn't, wasn't,

guess what, Jack?

He wasn't a moderate.

Like he

lied.

He lied to me.

Yeah.

And go tell that to the 340 million people who are paying 25 to 30 percent more for gas and food and rent and loan because of what you did.

Yeah.

Well, Victor,

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the last week or so

was the freeing of the hostages.

Special forces of Israel went into Gaza and got four hostages out.

Your thoughts on that, plus on the response from the international community to

Israel's action, the outrage from the usual suspects.

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So, Victor,

the

Israeli forces,

IDF, went into Gaza.

They knew what they were looking for.

They found them.

They found four hostages, brought them out.

The circumstances of the action, the location of the hostages in the home of a Gazan journalist and a Gazan doctor, and then the

action, post-action attacks on Netanyahu and others for the amount of dead Gazans

that

died because of the action, but tough noogies as far as I'm concerned.

But who cares what I think?

Victor, what are your thoughts on the action and the post-game shift?

I mean,

we're at the Nadir in the West when

our Western apparatus, the political class and the media, cannot distinguish between a liberal democracy that was attacked at a time of peace, trying to rescue hostages that are being held under the auspices of Hamas, but deliberately in a civilian area.

And when Israel tries to go and free them, And the community finds out and there is a firefight and they have to fight their way out with the hostages, then the Western apparat accepts the totally discredited Hamas casualty figures and then blames Israel for trying to save lives because

if they hadn't been fired on, there would be no civilian casualties.

Put it this way.

It's a real simple calculus.

So October 6th, all you have to do, Hamas, whatever grievances, go to your UN partners or your Iranian sponsors or your oil money subsidizers, but don't go in at a time of peace and holiday and butcher Jews and mutilate them and rape them and behead them.

Don't do that and this wouldn't have happened.

Two,

don't take hostages.

If you're going to act like medieval animals, then at least don't take hostages and they wouldn't have gone in after them.

Three, If you're going to take hostages, put them in a detention camp that's a military camp, and then it would be military on military.

Don't put them in the house of a journalist, so-called journalists.

Number four, if you're going to put them in a house of a journalist and the Israelis are going to free them, then put your hands up.

It says, okay, you caught us.

We do not want Gazans to die.

So leave, leave, just leave.

Get out of here, you IDF.

Take your hostages.

But no, they broke all of those cardinal rules.

They're 100% responsible for any collateral damage.

And what that wasn't?

It wasn't Black Hawk Down.

You remember that we lost,

is it 17 Americans in Somalia, and they were basically taken hostages.

They were in a compound.

They couldn't get out.

And how do we get them out?

They put flares on the top of buildings, and they just unleashed.

helicopter gunships, Americans, and they just went back and forth like they were World War I machine gunners, and they did not distinguish who was on that roof, believe me.

Anybody in that roof was fair.

They may have killed 500 people.

And I didn't hear anybody demonstrating against them.

But what was the worst thing about it was

we had this protest

Robanchot's statue, Lafayette statue, right out

right outside the White House.

It's not very far from the White House.

And they were defaced.

They were defiled.

There was graffiti in these beautiful monuments.

A policeman boldly and bravely tried to stop them.

They pelted him.

There was zero arrest.

They committed vandalism.

They were there illegally.

They had no permit.

They were violent.

They assaulted a police officer.

Those are felonies.

They make going into the Capitol, walking around, going out look like a picnic.

They don't do anything to him.

And so,

when you think of the reaction to

this

this Western worry about Israel using two deadly force to free positives, and then you compound it with what happened in the demonstration, and then you add a couple of other tessera to the sick mosaic, and that is you say,

oh, we also hear that the Biden administration, for the first time, Jack, since October 7th is negotiating directly with Hamas to get back five American hostages.

And what leverage do they have to get back of their American hostages?

Well, it's reported their leverage is: we're going to distance ourselves from Israel if you release these Americans.

And this joins the pandering that we've seen on the oil reserve, work with Mexico to close the border, job on the Federal Reserve to lower interest rates, suddenly before tariffs on EVs in China for the Michigan UAW, suddenly

suspend aid to Israel, 3,500 bombs won't be delivered

so that you can pander to the Arab-Islamic vote in Michigan, and this is part of it.

Suddenly, we're going to show Americans right before the election we care about hostages, and we're going to sell Israel down the river as part of the way of getting American hostages.

So, all of these stories just

are repulsive, but there is a ray of hope.

They're taking place

amid a changing landscape.

If you look at the European parliamentary elections, it was just incredible.

It wasn't just

the Italian right did well.

It wasn't just the French right did very well, or the German right did well, or the Belgian right, or the Dutch.

It's all of them did well.

And it reverberates back to their own elections.

Macron is going to have to call out a snap election.

People in the West are sick of this.

And part of the subtext is, yes, it's about global warming, tyranny, and fascism, and going after farmers for things like,

you know, not having a manu,

a

passing the wind monitor on a cow or something.

That's part of it.

But a lot of it is illegal immigration and radical Islamic groups who interpret the magnanimity of their host as weakness to be

exploited.

And they look at a European who lets them in as they do an American as, you don't believe in anything because you let us in and we hate your guts.

When I saw that protester with a Hamas headband screaming in front of that defiled statue

Outside the White House, I thought, my God,

somebody arrests this guy.

He's advocating for a terrorist organization.

He's part of a mob that's desecrating and burglarizing and vandalizing federal property and you can't do anything.

And he will interpret that can't do anything as empowerment.

But, and this is what I'm saying, something is happening in the United States similar to what's happening in Europe.

And I think what it is, is people are tired of what I would call woke jihadism.

That's this new movement that has three constituencies.

The number one constituency are Middle Easterners, and they took the old ossified, calcified Palestinian cause,

but because they immigrated often illegally in huge numbers to Europe and the United States, along with 500,000 Middle Eastern students in European and American universities, along with

$10 to $15 billion in golf money oil to found Middle East studies programs, which are not historical or philological, remember, but they're simply hate Israel anti-Semitic bokeh for these students and immigrants.

They have taken that Palestinian cause and they have re-energized it.

The second constituency is the DEI group.

They have said,

You guys have a nice Marxist binary.

All white people are bad and oppressors, and all non-white are good and oppressed.

We join you.

So all of you guys have some good things to recommend you.

BLM, you've got a good record of anti-Semitism.

Farrakhan was one of your guys.

Sharpton, you hear Joy Reed on TV, ranting and raving, etc.

Squad, anti-Semitism

to the core.

You can join us because we, the Palestinians, have things in common.

We are against Jews who are white.

They're white interloping settler colonials.

So we want you to join.

And then the third ingredient to this woke jihadism is the useful American student idiot and left-wing Democratic voter.

And they feel, you know what?

The faculty on campus is for this stuff.

The administration, covertly, but it's still for it.

And it's cool to wear

the scarf, kefia, or whatever you want to call it, and wear a little headband and say death to Israel.

Man, they're getting bolder, as you've seen, much bolder.

And so you've got the useful idiot American student or European student.

You've got the DEI, and you've got the Middle Eastern contingent.

And this is something we've never seen before.

Woke jihadism.

Did you see the

CB, the story about this?

Sure.

Go ahead.

Did you see the story about the CBS

reporter?

I think it was today,

was shocked about a poll result that said 62% of Americans want all these illegals deported.

Just stunned that that vast a number

have taken such a, I'll call it a normal position, but

for the left, it's not normal for them to be a legal level.

You know, it's a far right.

It's a fascist position, but it's a normal.

Their position is this.

Everything that's upside down is right side up.

So they're saying, yes, there is a federal law that says you cannot enter the United States without its permission.

And yes, 10 million people broke it, but enforcing that law is racist.

Breaking that law is virtuous.

So if you come in and want to enforce an existing law,

you're racist.

That's their argument.

And I don't think it's going to work.

It'll be interesting to see how, if Trump should be elected, how they pull that off.

I think all they have to do is get the most flagrant violators.

Those are the people in Denver or New York who are in hotels screaming and yelling that they want better food or warmer school or just come up and just say you're gone and have buses and take them back and have a rapid Marshall plan to build the wall and force the border.

And then I think you just

You just notify all federal agencies, every federal agency, unemployment, state agency, locally, anybody that comes in contact with you who cannot prove that they are a legal citizen or resident has to leave.

And you can just keep working at it.

Yeah.

And I think

people will self-deport.

A lot of them won't.

Yeah.

Remember,

I could be wrong here, Victor, but I think when America passed the

Congress passed, it actually forced the states to adopt the 55-mile an hour rule.

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We've talked about that before about the 600 sanctuary jurisdictions.

If they're going to break the law, then they should not get federal funds.

You don't want to cut off their traffic funds because it'll lead to deaths of people in these individual states that aren't responsible necessarily for their lunatic leaders.

But you can cut off their environmental money.

You can cut off their university subsidies until they follow the law.

The left is lawless, which is very ironic because they are projecting what they would do

if they were elected and they had been on the receiving end of what they dished out to Trump.

Have you noticed this epidemic now?

The squad,

the view,

Jane Fond is climbing back into the national scene as if she's back on that anti-aircraft battery in North Vietnam 50 years ago or 60 years ago.

And

they're all having the same Robert De Niro.

You know, I was just thinking off the topic, Robert De Niro has had these street

outbursts.

Right.

The reason he was so wonderful or so eerie or creepy as Max Cady, remember of Cape Fear?

Yep.

He really overdid that.

And then he was

that creepy guy in casino, Sam Rothman.

Remember that?

Yeah.

And then he was the creepy Travis Bickle in Taxi Driver.

Taxi driver.

And it was John Something in

Heat.

Those were all brilliant portrayals, I really think.

But he is a one-dimensional actor.

Anything else, he's not very talented.

And he's brilliant because he just plays himself.

He is crazy and mean and creepy and virulent.

And when he gets on the screen and you give him

a role to play that mirror mirror images who he is, he does a wonderful job.

But he's not a Gary Oldman or somebody like that that can play anybody.

Right.

No way.

Robert De Niro is patented.

I can't see that.

No, he's not George C.

Scott.

But

the thing about it is

all of these people now are warning.

I heard Barbara Streison say she wants to move.

She'll move.

She said that in 2016.

Promises, promises.

Leave your...

Well, I have a better idea than moving.

Just take that huge mansion that sits across from Pepperdine on the PCH and say, you know what?

I don't agree with Donald Trump.

I think he's dangerous.

I'm going to move to Gaza.

I'm going to go move to, I don't know, Iran.

I'm going to go move to Cuba.

And I'm going to take my mansion with my ill-gotten gains and give it to illegal aliens as a sanctuary resort.

It's got about five acres.

Let me

have a camp there.

Just do something that matches your ideology and your rhetoric for a change.

But they all are, they're all coming out of the woodwork.

And I guess that's because of what?

It's because the polls show that Joe Biden consistently now is well below 40%

and approval.

Lowest ever of any 37%.

Yes.

And even though the national polls show that they're almost dead even,

they look at the swing states.

And he's behind in every one of them and some of them at a margin that will be very hard to rectify i.e.

Georgia, Nevada,

Arizona.

So it's going to come down to he's going to have to take Pennsylvania, Wisconsin,

and

Michigan and he's got to keep all of the states that are supposedly solidly blue, like

you know, Minnesota probably will, but I don't think he can do that, and I don't think they think he can do that, given his rate of decline.

So given all that, the polls and his personal unfavorability and the European elections and the anger.

And when you look at the crowd, I'm not a big fan of measuring political viability by crowd size because I got burned when I fell into that trap in 2020 when I saw Joe Biden, you know, in a car like he was at a motor.

outdoor movie theater and then people were honking the horn and there was about 20 cars and then Trump had 50,000 people in Pennsylvania.

I won't get into that because I might have to say that there were irregularities in the way the states changed their ballad.

But nevertheless, when you look at the enthusiasm gap between Trump's crowds and Biden's non-existent crowds, I've never seen a Republican go to Newport Beach.

They go all go there to raise money, but I've never seen people jam the streets to cheer them on.

But on the other hand, they did it in 2020, and it wasn't determinative.

So my point is

they look at all these criteria and they say, you know what, we're in trouble and he's declining and that's not going to be reversible.

Anybody who knows anything about dementia knows it's not reversible.

And there's periods where you can arrest a person.

I have dementia now, but it's reversible.

It's called COVID dementia for this week.

But

I just think that they're in full panic

and projecting their fears onto Donald Trump.

And the weird thing about Donald Trump is

it's the weirdest thing in the world.

He was too late in firing Comey.

He should have fired Andrew McCabe the moment he should have gone fired all of those people.

He did not go after people.

He did not have a special prosecutor.

They could have indicted Hillary Clinton after the election.

And he suffers the worst of the rhetoric, lock her up, lock her up.

But then on the action, he's absent.

He's magnanimous.

He didn't weaponize the DOJ.

He didn't weaponize the IRAs.

He didn't weaponize.

He

appointed Millie.

And

he was very naive about Millie.

He thought, you know, everybody has a photo oper with the president.

He didn't understand.

He didn't know who Anonymous was.

He didn't try to ferret him out and punish him.

It's so weird that they're into this.

He's going to put us in camps, psychodrama.

Oh, my gosh.

It's just disgusting.

All it is is projection again.

They are convinced that he thinks like they do, and they are convinced that they did him a great disservice and crime, and they are convinced now that he's going to win.

And in their way of thinking,

had they been on the verge of victory and about ready to continue their power, and had they suffered from themselves what they dished out to Trump, they would go bananas.

They would go back and get even with every single of their perpetrators.

And I don't think Trump's going to do it.

Well,

maybe the American people will find a way

to pay back and it will be a rhymes with which a victory.

Before we break,

we'll make a prediction.

They are afraid they're going to lose the Congress

and the presidency.

And they've lost, they think, the Supreme Court.

So just expect they're going to go crazy about the Supreme Court.

They are running the most dishonest, vicious campaign about Sam Alito and his wife.

It's just disgusting.

They're going to go after these judges.

They're going to have people swarm their homes.

Last time

they did that, an assassin turned up.

They're going to get Chuck Schumer types to go back and yell and scream and threaten them.

And then they're going to put enormous pressure on

Elena Kagan, I think it's 65, and especially Sodomaire.

Sodoma.

She's almost my age.

And she travels, I think, with a doctor because she's got very severe diabetes.

They're going to do to her what they tried to do with Ruth Bader Ginsburg.

I think they've already started.

They have.

Yeah, they have.

This is the last time they feel they're going to have a threadbare majority.

And I'm not sure they do, because I'm not sure that Joel Manchin would approve some left-wing justice

before the election.

The anger in the neighborhoods, Victor,

one of the differences between now and 2020 is you were not populating Harlem, certain neighborhoods in

Brooklyn, et cetera, and other major cities with illegals taking over any available hotel, taking over schools, school buildings,

public parks, etc.

And

the locals are pissed.

They're pissed.

And they weren't getting this poked in their eye four years ago.

So I think that's going to be the backbreaker myself.

But

Victor, we've got one other.

You mentioned General Milley.

And we should get your thoughts about some reports of what our,

whatever it was, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff was doing

after the elections in 2020.

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What is it, Victor?

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And then COVID hit.

And it's sitting there.

And I called my wonderful son up.

And

he said, you got one of those solemn.

I said, yes, I did.

So I'll be over Thursday to pick it up and I'll deliver it up in the mountains for you, Dad.

So I said,

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So as soon as I,

and the reason I thought I should get it was it's very hard to cook at 7,200 feet, you know, with the altitude and pressure and everything.

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Okay, well, we thank Mrs.

Uh, Mrs.

Hansen for making this wise.

Well, Mrs.

Hansen did, but also Sammy Wink did.

And Sammy Wink was the one who ordered me

not to use a coat.

He wants everybody else to use a coat, but not Victor, because Victor was not going to do this out of,

what's the word?

Brand loyalty.

He was going to do it because he liked the product.

I did, because I mentioned to her on the air that I thought it was a good product.

Okay.

It's funny how Sammy, while we're co-hosts, I can both

push you around.

Sammy's the pusher.

Mrs.

Hansen is

flat on her back with COVID.

Yeah.

After an amazing

one-day recovery,

high fever, one day.

I'm cured.

She had a rebound, a bad one.

So we're both.

You know what's weird about COVID?

I know you're going to think this is crazy.

I believe.

We have all these dogs, right?

And so

we can't walk them.

We can't do anything.

We can barely crawl out and feed them.

We don't want anybody coming over because we infect them.

We had a lot of people who were supposed to deliver.

They don't,

we're just like

two lepers.

And when you walk out there, I think the dogs can smell COVID on you because they don't, they're not friendly.

It's like, they go, pssh.

Really?

They can train dogs to smell

for diseases, cancers.

I think so.

Diabetes.

I was surprised.

I thought they would be after I was gone so long.

They'd be so delighted for suspended affection from me.

Right.

Wasn't that Ulysses dog after 20 years, something like that?

It was like they're murmuring to, hey, they left, they're gone for, they not only left us for a couple of weeks, they came back with that stinky disease.

I don't want to get it.

Don't get near them.

Just make sure they put down the food and then wait till they go back into their leper house and we'll eat it.

Well, speaking of stinky victor,

General Milley,

your favorite person, but he seems to have.

I have no personal animus against General Milley.

I have no personal animus against anybody who serves their country.

But

I don't like it when four-star generals

pander to the media and

they project.

I mean, they say that they're not going to, remember, he's not going to interject politics.

He's going to treat any commander-in-chief as a commander-in-chief, regardless of their politics.

And then they do just the opposite.

And that's what General Milley did.

He apologized for that, what was it, a picture, a photo op with

Donald Trump after Donald Trump was so shocked at all of the rioting and violence in June of 2020.

And what did Donald Trump say?

He just said, I think we might have to nationalize

these local police units and the National Guards.

And I'm willing to send in the National Guard and federal troops.

And all he was doing was exactly what George H.W.

Bush did during the Rodney King riots.

He had a chairman of the Joint Chiefs, his name was Colin Powell, and he called him up and said, Colin,

this Rodney King stuff is getting out of hand.

Colin Powell was an African-American.

Rodney King had been dealt with pretty tough by the LAPD.

He was a felon and he was escaping, but there was no reason to beat him up.

So that was a tricky call.

And Colin Powell said, just tell me when you want.

We're ready.

And they sent in 5,000 Marines.

And I don't think Colin Powell said that this is, I shouldn't have had a photo op with George H.W.

Bush.

I don't think he suggested that this was an overreach of government power, but that's what General Milley did.

He immediately apologized for being caught in a picture with Donald Trump, and he immediately let it be known that you should not use federal troops for domestic violence.

And

then we had this

crazy post

facto admission to, was it Bob Woodward in his latest tell-all book that General Milley had contacted his counterpart in the People's Liberation Army and apprised him that if Dr.

Milley, that's what he was at that point,

if General Milley, MD, in his considered medical expertise opinion, thought that Donald Trump was on hinge and made an order that might be dangerous for world peace, Well, then General Milley, on his own initiative, was going to call his counterpart and warn him that if they heard that Donald Trump was was doing something erratic, that they could count on good old General Mill.

And he would not follow that order of his own commander-in-chief.

And,

you know, I thought, wow, you just violated two canons of the chain of command.

Number one,

you went to a foreign enemy stealthily and you pledged support to a foreign enemy in opposition to your own commander-in-chief.

And number two,

by statute, the joint chiefs of staff, the chairman of the joint chiefs, is not a part of the chain of command.

It's an

advisory, very important advisory group, but they do not

interfere with the chain of command as far as the use or not use of strategic weapons.

The president, if he has a crisis, can go to the chairman of the joint chief and say, General Milley, which theater commander is the most reliable?

What state of DEF CON should we be?

He can do all of that.

But when he makes a decision, he calls the Secretary of Defense up.

The Secretary of Defense deals with the theater commanders.

There is no General Milley who says, report to me.

Any of you get a call from the White House, you report to me first.

That's what he did.

So he violated two things that if it hadn't been a liberal president and he had been a conservative general they would have tried him on sedition or treat they would have the left would have done that i'm not saying you should do that to him but that's what he did

and now he's back in the the news

back in i want yeah i want a new book a new book right right

right

there's a great rundown of this victor by julie kelly she's got a sub stack declassified with julie kelly and you should check that out.

A great rundown of, it's titled The Silent Insurrection, General Millie's Hand on October, excuse me, on January 6th.

It's really funny, though.

Julie Kelly, I looked at that,

is examining an honorific left-wing book by a Washington Post reporter

that in the process of canonizing the military for being political, right?

For being weaponized, it's self-incriminatory.

And I guess they feel that any general who steps over the line and becomes a political actor is worthy of reverence as long as the object of their weaponization is Donald Trump.

That's what I, that's from what I gather.

I don't want to read the book, so I can't, in all fairness, comment on the details, but

we're told that General Milley played a role in not,

what would be the word, delaying a proper response to ensure there was no violence on January 6th

in the manner that Nancy Pelosi had played, which is very mysterious because

there could have been security at the Capitol.

And they did not have to have just a few policemen from the door with the door open and walk in.

You could have stopped that.

And

he didn't do that.

And the question is, why didn't he do that?

And why didn't Nancy Pelosi do that?

And why did people come forward in the Capitol Police and some in the military?

And there was testimony by a military officer as well as Capitol Police officers to the effect that

Millie, Pelosi, others in the Capitol Police Nation had been warned that it would be prudent to show

force on January 6th to make sure that firebrands within the protesters did not hijack the demonstration.

And they wouldn't do that.

It was almost the implication is they wanted something to happen.

So post facto, they could militarize

the Capitol as they did in the greatest show of force since, as I said earlier, Jubil, early 1864 raid on Washington, D.C.

Well, don't let a, what is it, don't let an emergency go to waste.

It's not an emergency.

I forget the word.

Let a riot go to a demonstration go to waste, I guess.

Create one and then don't let it go to waste.

The other thing about General Milley is

that testimony, along with Lloyd Dallas Austin and the chief of naval operational, I think it was summer 2021, was a complete pandering to the hysteria that followed the George Floyd killing death of May of 2000.

Is it 2021?

And so, excuse me, 2020 and that summer of love.

What was it?

No violence here, all peaceful.

But that violence, a year later, he was still in front of Congress talking about Professor Kendi.

and they were going to look for white rage and white privilege.

And

all that did was

uh galvanize the military to run investigations and to implement investigations of so called supposedly white males and to

inaugurate dei programs and the net result of it was as i've said a million times in december 2023

without a peep they quietly issued a report was oh shrug shrug we didn't find any white privileged cabals in our ranks but we are short 45 000 troops and when we look at the demographics it's not latinos gays women blacks that are not signing up i wonder why it's white males is this important i suppose it is they die at twice their numbers in afghanistan and iraq in the demographics and they don't want to join And they were overwhelmingly the 8,500 that were drummed out earlier for not getting a vaccination.

When we were told that two vaccinations, booster, booster, booster, would prevent you from getting COVID.

I had two

Moderna's jack.

I think if you count a little faint line as a COVID case

case, that was my third.

This is my fourth COVID case.

How could it be possible?

I had two Moderna.

Right.

He told me that if I had two, 96%,

I was going to be safe.

He told me that he never gave any money for,

I don't know,

enhancement of a virus,

gain in function, gain of function, I should say, virus.

He said that he never did that, but he did.

One of the things when you get COVID and you got 100-degree temperature and you're just looking at the ceiling and you feel like

you're in a

Joan of Joan of Arc at the stake.

I mean, you're just

burning up.

By the way,

I went to where Joan of the Arc was burning.

At Rouen.

Yeah, at Rouen.

And anyway,

when you're feeling very ill, you get very angry at the Chinese and the Wuhan lab and to think that they engineered this virus in part with American expertise and money and in denial of getting mad at Fauci too.

And they have never, ever come forward and taken responsibility for the untold misery they did to hundreds of millions of people that got COVID, long COVID, and died from this.

Same thing with Dr.

Fauci.

We're going to learn if you, again, if you look at it logically without emotion, without

ire, without meanness, you just analytically look at the chain of events.

the emails, Dr.

Fauci's funding, Echo Hell, Peter Dasick, Francis Collins, disinterested testimonies, just look at it, you will see that

people in our highest echelons of public health knew that it was illegal in the United States to conduct gain-of-function viral research.

They knew that the French and others had helped create a lab to do just that in Wuhan.

They knew that it was lax and there was more avenues for experimentation and less regulation and they knew that good old peter dossik had contacts and they could give monies to his echo health and he could channel that into wuhong and whatever research accrued from that they even whether it was noble about vaccine efficacy or whether it was ignoble by who knows that they would be a partner or they would be invested in that and would have knowledge of the results And that's, that's, I don't think that's controversial anymore.

And when you think of that, that's really having a hand in creating the COVID epidemic.

It really is.

And then when you're the head of public health, at least honorifically so,

and you try to suppress that knowledge and you try to fob off a pangolin or a bat,

or you try to suggest that the Chinese are the victims of, I don't know, racism

and they've acted honorably,

it gets even worse.

And when you look at what he did to Jay Bacharia and John Yannides and Scott Atlas and whipped up that hatred of people who were speaking what the left calls truth to power, it's really a disreputable record.

And I don't think he's ever, ever going to recover from it.

He hasn't really

We haven't even reached

just a small percentage of the responsibility that he had for this dilemma that we have been in for years now.

And

he's never going to get out of it.

He's going to, no, all he can do is obfuscate and lie and mislead.

But ultimately, there are facts.

And he subsidized, gained a function viral research in a lab.

where a deadly virus escaped.

And he never took responsibility or warned us about about it.

He did the opposite.

He demonized anybody who tried to warn people about the lab's role or the dangers from the Chinese People's Liberation Army that control the lab.

It's really, it's shocking.

I don't know why people are not angrier.

Rand Paul, you know,

a lot of people in the conservative movement don't like Rand Paul, but I give him the utmost respect for his tireless effort to call Anthony Fauci to account.

Right.

I'll be happy, Victor, when the day comes when Holy Cross, my alma mater, removes Fauci's name.

They so genuflected two, three years ago, put his name up on the signs.

That's, you know, it's funny you say that.

I'm not a big fan, though.

I'm on the Bradley board, and when I go places, a few people know that I'm on the board.

You know what the question they come up to me and asked?

What?

You guys, meaning I wasn't even on the board at the time gave this award jill crystal well they have a whole array i don't want to name names but there's a whole array of prominent never trumpers and don't you have the courage to resend that award and i always say the same thing

what's done is done and yeah you can't you can't resend something yeah true enough well victor you have uh been heroic here through your four

i can't believe you've got covid the fourth time on top of everything else well i don't know but the third time it was just a faint little

you know i took i had long covet so i thought i had a my immune system was so wrapped up i got it i felt sick for two days and i took a test and it just

but this time when you have those home test kits you know those lines right this thing looks like a marksolop

and then it looked like a spider you know a little thin thing if you count that this is the fourth time well the long covet was enough yeah

right i beat i beat it too i was really puffed up and arrogant chauvinistic uh hubristic i beat long covet at least most of the time i felt great and then this thing came along and the only reason i took pax laudit is i thought that there was some evidence i'm not sure it's that if you take Pax Laudit, I don't think it really,

I think it can cause rebounds.

I know it doesn't have any effect on long COVID Stanford's proven that but I think there was initial research that you might have a greater chance of lessening the viral load earlier right if you do get and therefore you would have a less chance of getting long COVID again wow but I tell you taking that drug I feel like I'm chewing aluminum tinfoil

It's like the most metallic taste you can imagine.

And it's really weird to me to get cramps and everything.

But I'm half done, so I'll weigh in on my next one.

All right.

Well,

pre-COVID,

one of the first podcasts we ever did, you and I at National Review,

you did it with 103 fevers.

So you're remarkable and indestructible.

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