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Folks that listened to a previous podcast heard you're battling round number four of COVID in your life.

Wait, what are those?

I think three and a half.

Three and a half.

Okay.

All right.

I was

Delta, I got over in three days.

I was very proud of myself.

Number two

was horrible.

That was on May 1st, 2022, right before I had to take a group to Israel.

And I was sick as a dog, and I got long COVID for a year and a half.

But during that long period, I got a slight case of the

actual virus again, I guess.

And then that was three.

And this is, I think, this is right up there.

This is almost as bad as the,

well, it is as bad so far as the one I had two years ago.

Well, yeah.

I don't understand that because they were told by all our experts.

Remember, the virologist said to survive, viruses become A, more infectious by B, being less virulent.

So they don't kill as many people.

And indeed, you don't hear as many people dying as the original one, but it doesn't mean they don't make you sick, it seems like.

The difference in this variant, I think they call them FLIRT, F-L-R-T variant,

is that

the difference is the first two gave me really bad sinus, you know, and coughing, respiratory.

And this is more chills, body aches, dizziness, neuroinflammation, in my experience.

Well, very different.

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Some of the best conversations ever on this topic have been the ones that you have had with him.

And maybe it's not an update.

We've had Scott Atlas, and I'll have Jay Bachario as well.

Well, we're going to, they're all in California, right?

Stephen is a frequent visitor to the Stanford campus.

Jay is there.

Scott is there.

Well,

let's start talking about California.

Yeah, proverbial

voices in the wilderness.

Well, they're

less wilderness than used to be, which is good for America.

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there is a story on Politico, California Water.

President Joe Biden and Governor Gavin Newsom are racing to protect vulnerable Chinook salmon and delta smelt.

Isn't that an invasive species?

In California's main water supply before a possible second Trump presidency.

Victor, we've discussed water before, but just

the passion that these characters have to keep water from coming into the Central Valley to grow the food that America and the world needs to eat is insane.

And frankly, from my perspective, evil.

Your thoughts, my friend.

Well, everybody understands that

California is an arid, it's a beautiful state, but it's arid.

And one-third of the people

live where two-thirds of the precipitation is.

Two-thirds of the people live where one-third.

So,

our ancestors in the 1930s and 40s, federal ancestors, they did something called the Central Valley Project, which tapped the tributaries of the Sacramento River, the American River,

the Feather River, the Colamath River, all of these

very,

very wet areas and regions that were drained by these rivers, and they, in a series of Orville Dams,

Olson Dam, et cetera, they brought water down for agriculture.

That was amplified in the 1950s, 60s, and 70s by a state complementary project called the Central, not the Central Valley, the California Water Project, which built a huge aqueduct and included in that transference more dams

and municipal water availability.

And so the result was that the only problem they had, Jack, was when you bring the water down north and you've got to get it around

where it drains and it drains into San Francisco Delta.

And therefore, and anybody that's been that, it's a marshy area, so they would pump the water from the north into the Delta and then they would pump it out.

They never built a canal that was planned, the peripheral canal.

And in the last 30 years, environmentalists have said,

well, this little delta smelt is the canary in the mine and it's slipping in population.

And it's because these evil farmers that grow all this food in the south,

they are taking water that should go out to sea and replenish the delta.

And then the farmers will say, well, this smelt is disappearing in part because you have 30 waste treatment plants in your populated bay and you're dumping, even the treated water has too high of a nitrogen content.

And it's not just that they're getting less fresh water, you're polluting your own backyard.

And then people said a lot of the evasive species like striped bass are devouring these little three-inch smelt.

The result was, is that between the environmentalists, mostly state employees, university employees, not entrepreneurial people that were self-employed, like farmers, they began to whittle away contracted federal and state water.

And along with municipalities, as California grew from 20 to 40 million people after the advent of these projects,

they never enlarged them.

So they didn't build the Los

Banos Grande Reservoir.

They didn't build the Temperance Flat Reservoir.

They didn't build the Sites Reservoir.

They just quit.

And then they doubled the population.

So there were more demands on the water.

So San Jose needed water.

The Bay Area needed water.

The Central Coast needed water.

Santa Barbara needed water.

And whatever didn't go to them had to go to Los Angeles.

They needed water.

And the farmers got less and less.

And the problem with farming was that millions of acres had been arid, very, very rich soil, but

the western side of the San Joaquin Valley, not where my farm is, I'm on the eastern side near the Sierra Nevada, where there's plentiful

snow melt and the water table is relatively shallow, you know, 90 to 150 feet.

It's falling, but still manageable.

But out where these great soils were on the west side, the water table is 15, 16, 1800 feet in some places, and it had never been farmed because of that.

and then when they made these projects they opened this land up and guess what california became the richest agricultural producer in value of crops in the world

nuts fruits vegetables

and it was working fine until the environmentalists said well We don't like these corporate farmers.

They're too big and they make too much money and now they're planting almonds.

Almonds take no more water, remember, listeners, than tomatoes or grapes.

The problem with almonds and water is they made too much money.

They don't now.

They went kaboo, kaput.

I mean, the price fell from $4.50 a pound to $1.50.

But for a brief period, 10 years ago, you could make a lot of money.

And people said, we're not going to use subsidized water to

make these corporate villains wealthy.

And so they began cutting, cutting, cutting.

And the result now is that

we're in the second wet year.

We're not in a drought.

We had about 140 or 50% of

snow and precipitation statewide

last year.

And this

winter, we had about 110%.

And guess what?

We're only delivering less than 30%

to the farmers.

And so they're pumping and they're taking land out of production.

And all these people in Palo Alto and San Francisco and Montecito and Carmao, they go to their whole earth.

They want to get their organic or their natural plums and peaches and apricots and grapes and lettuce and tomatoes.

And they just think it, I don't know, there's some factory called Farm Factory that you squirt a bunch of ingredients and out on the assembly line comes the stuff.

So

and if you look at the price of food, it's gone up 30%.

A lot of that was labor cost, but a lot of it is water.

It's so expensive.

And these farmers are going to go, they're going to take that.

The ultimate, I guess what I'm saying, Jack is they know when Donald Trump's going to come in,

if he is elected.

The first thing he's going to do is turn the pumps on.

So the water that was intended to go south will be dumped in the delta, and then it will be pumped

back into the aqueduct.

And he will tell the environmentalists and the state of California,

I'm I'm worried about the Delta smelt, but compared to the mouths of my constituents, American citizens, I want them to have accessible, affordable, safe food.

And nobody does that better than California farmers.

And I'm not going to destroy California agriculture to pursue some theory that a smelt shows that the Delta is dying.

And maybe you can improve your wastewater treatment or maybe you can have some other mechanisms.

But

this is not 1850 with a half a million Americans.

And we've already taken the bond measure that was designed to build three huge dams and reservoirs and diverted the will of the people

who voted for a proposition to build three reservoirs.

And what did we do with a lot of that money?

About a half a billion dollars.

We blew up.

we blew up we blew up four dams on the klamath river they provided 85 85,000 people with safe, clean, hydroelectric electricity.

They functioned as flood control in a wet year like the last two.

They had wonderful recreation.

They were beautiful lakes.

And they gave agriculture some water in the surrounding areas.

And we blew them up and caused an environmental disaster with a accruing mud spile.

that followed the slough.

It just was horrible.

And so that's where we are.

And California has all these theories, you know, reparations, cut off the water to the farmers, decommission all the nuclear plants, shut down all the natural gas, electricity, wind and solar.

And the result is that

we're a third world country.

We had a $76 billion deficit.

We did all these gimmicks.

We're still,

I don't know, $40 billion short.

We've got a,

I don't know, Stonehenge, ossified high-speed rail project that

10 years, not a foot of track, 15 billion dollars up the smoke, freeways have erated the worst of the United States.

It's just a, it's so sad to watch this collective suicide.

27% of the state was not born in the United States.

That was an enormous challenge to integrate, assimilate, inculcate people in the civic education of the United States.

We didn't do that.

We're the most racially, tribally chauvinistic, and

hostile group in the country.

And so the whole state is

falling apart.

And we have this tendency, I'll finish this rant,

of

the center of power has shifted with Silicon Valley's 9 trillion in market capitalization from the old LA basin where the people were to where the money is.

So we produce these

politicians, the multi-millionaire Dianne Feinstein, the multimillionaire, even Barbara Boxer became a multimillionaire, the multi-millionaire Gavin Newsom was a friend of the Getty family, and they become the multi-millionaire Nelson Pelosi

and

the word solid Kamala Harris.

All of these national politicians come out of this area and they have one thing in common.

They're never subject to the baleful consequences of their ideology.

They aren't.

They determine who gets water.

They determine the price of electricity, of food, by all of the regulatory oppressive policies.

And then they live Presidio Heights, Knob Hill, Napa Valley, Palm Springs area, you name it.

And it's suckers that they think live in places like Fresno County, Tulare County, Kern County, Yolo County, way up north or in the air at San Joaquin Valley.

We're the people who pay the $6 a gallon gas and the $5

a pound for grapes.

Don't think of Nancy Pelosi getting that hair cut when the rest of America was locked in their apartments.

It was hard to know

which was worse, Nancy Pelosi lecturing all of us on

the need to social distance, quarantine, mask, and then sneaking around to get her hair done.

Or Gavin Newsom going to the most expensive restaurant, the French Laundry in California, pulling, having a jolly good time with whom?

California health lobbyist, while none of them had masks and none of them were social distancing, and yet they were putting people in jail to fight.

And he went down.

Remember, it was the L.A.

Dodger game or something?

He took pictures with all the athletes with no masks on his arm.

All the stuff that would put anybody else.

Oh, God.

Hey, speaking of water-related madness, Victor, you know, I'm a little

upset at myself that a couple of weeks ago I did not raise with you the issue of this pier in Gaza that we funded our tax dollars over $300 million.

While there are Americans being held hostage, we build this pier and within short order,

it disintegrates,

embarrassing in the amount of money we spend, embarrassing as sign of, is this what American

know-how has come down to?

Like we're going to create something and it's going to fall apart right away.

What quick thoughts do you have on that whole Gazapir thing, Victor, before we get on to

a great piece you've written in the new Criterion?

Well, you know, the background of that is, and because we've just had the D-Day 80th anniversary, the British, with some American help, dreamed up these mulberry portable harbors, huge thing.

And somehow, 80 years ago, people with far less education and far less money were able to tow

two huge piers some 80 miles across the English Channel.

and establish ports right on the beach, artificial concrete piers.

One of them was destroyed in the greatest history of a storm, as you know, in 50 years.

It happened a few days after Dean.

But the other continued to operate throughout the rest of the war.

So you would think that 80 years later, we would know how to build a much smaller

pier, which by the way, I think doubled its cost estimated.

It came in at 320 million.

And

we said it would only take, I don't know,

I don't know, a month to build.

And then it was just a catastrophe.

They towed it, and one of the ships ran aground.

And

then the question is: will Americans be in Gaza?

Well, we won't let them is being on the pier part of Gaza and who gets to use it?

If the Israelis are going to are being forced to bring in food, can they bring it in by

ship?

And essentially, we built

pier

that no one is using and has already crumbled and disconnected and has to be repaired.

And the ships that

are

tasked with repairing it have not been able to navigate the seas very well.

And it's just a testament to an incompetent generation.

It was a poorly thought out.

Nobody,

you know, if you want to bring food to Gaza, they have a border with Egypt and just let the Egyptians, just give it to the Egyptians and let them truck it in.

But no, we couldn't do that.

We had to do,

make our own little direct sea port to Gaza.

And we can't even do that.

It's just a decline in know-how, technology.

Boy,

I'm so glad we had the greatest generation fighting in World War II because this bunch would have lost the war.

Gosh.

Well, Victor,

I've got a couple of other things to talk about.

A little bit truncated today again.

You're

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in the new issue of the new criterion, a review of white rural rage by Shaller,

I forget Schaller's first name, I didn't write it down, and Paul Waldman.

And

you called it an often incoherent polemic and much more.

This is quite important,

Victor.

We've talked a little about this in the past.

Following this, maybe we can get a little into the European elections

because I think the rural white rage also applies across the other side of the pond there.

But would you tell us about this essay review you've written for the new criteria?

Well,

white rural rage, I was asked to review it, the threat to American democracy is

it's written by an academic, which is always you've got to be careful about, and a journalist, Tom Schauer and Paul Wallen.

They've both written previously about strategies for the democratic party but their thesis is

there are these uneducated white roots and they are now a minority of the country and they're angry and yes they're self-destructive and they've had it rough they have a higher suicide rate their life expectancy is declining faster than other minorities which is kind of well anyway they they chart out all the bad things fentanyl which is

it's kind of, you see what I'm getting at.

They're completely oblivious to that their own presentation contradicts the thesis of their book, because these people in the book, they argue, have no reason to be angry except

they're just outnumbered now, and they don't have power like they used to.

But then they tell you why they don't have power because they were victims of globalization and they have reason to be angry.

Not racial reasons, but and so they go back and forth.

They want to show that these people are clingers and deplorables and irredeemables, but they don't want to say that that's a reason why they're discontented or they have legitimate grievances.

The other thing about it is

I've never read a more incoherent book and more arrogantly.

They say that They've been troubled, Jack.

They've been interested.

They've been curious for a long time about the historic, the historic, the historic relationship and tensions between the country, the Rus, I would call it.

We get rural in Latin from the word Rus and the herbs or the urbane or the urban.

But you know what's when I look, so I read that at the beginning of the book, I thought, well,

one's an academic, one's a journalist.

We're going to read about Hesiod's works and days.

Yes.

First 700 BC talking about the bribe swallowers in town versus the noble farmers.

No.

Well, maybe Virgil's, I don't know, maybe it's Georgics.

No.

Maybe some handbooks on classical agronomy written by Columella, Barrow?

No.

Okay, well, then maybe some modern things, the Southern Agrarians?

No.

Jefferson's treatises, letters about farming and democracy, Tocqueville?

No, no.

Not one.

Not one reference to a historical text that has anything to do with country versus city.

Nothing.

After telling us that they've been curious

in the historical sense.

Instead, what do they do?

They just take contemporary news accounts, and then some of them aren't even accurate.

They say,

wow,

47%

of white rural America questioned the last election.

That's dangerous.

Well, the majority then didn't.

So, people who they say were Trump supporters, according to their own figures, 53% said against all the changes in the ballot laws, against the radical transformation, where 70% of the electorate didn't vote on election day, and yet they were, they agreed with the outcome.

Then they said that given January 6th, this group is responsible for political unrest.

And you think, okay,

let's have a discussion as well, because you're interested in urban, rural, urban, rural tension.

Where was the,

as I recall in 2020, the 120 days of riot, looting, killing,

the free zone, chazz, or whatever it was called, in Washington, in Seattle, in Portland, the torching of the courthouse, the police precinct, the St.

John's Episcopal Church, the $2 billion in damages, the $1,500.

Where was that?

Was that out in the middle of Kansas?

Or maybe it was in Omaha, Nebraska.

I didn't read about it in Fresno County.

No, it was urban, urban, urban.

And who were the people?

Urban, urban, urban, Antifa, Antifa, BLM.

And so, and then what's weird is they said, but January 6th was white

rural age.

They didn't even look at the research they quote that a majority of the people who showed up on January 6th were not from farms or rural communities.

Even the so-called white rural ragers on January 6th, their own data

does not support what they've said.

And the whole book is like that.

It's just a rant, a rant, rant, rant about these evil people.

And then the thing that got me really angry, and I wrote over 5,000 word review, I would urge all of you to read it.

It's in Roger Kimball's edited New Criterion issue.

They have the gumption, the audacity to say that the white rural population is unpatriotic and insurrectionary.

And I'm saying, who in the hell went over their numbers in the demographic in the first Gulf War?

Who went out to God-forsaken places like Fallujah?

Who was in

Kabul?

Who died, as I said in an earlier book, double their numbers in the demographic?

According to them, there is only about 36%

white males in

the country.

How did 72 to 76 percent of them die?

Why?

Because they were disloyal, they were unpatriotic.

Why would they go off to a horrible place in Afghanistan to die if they didn't like the United States?

And they don't even, they're just oblivious to how shocking and silly they sound.

And where was the research?

Did they call up Selena Zito or any journalist who's crisscrossed the country, talked to middle American?

Do they go camp out in Bakersfield or Arvin or Wasco?

No, no.

Kalinga?

No, not at all.

They just called up a couple of, you know, newspaper editors in a small town or a political representative on the left.

And

you remember that book, What's the Matter with Kansas?

It's the same.

Only it's much worse.

That book was at least honestly researched.

This book is, these stupid rural white people don't know what's good for them.

If they would just listen to the left and

organize for economic issues, they would find that they're really secretly leftists.

And I thought to myself,

Okay,

that's happened.

It happened in Canada, where all the truckers, mostly white males, but not all, got angry and they decided to demonstrate their anger

by

objecting to the COVID and the gas and all diesel.

And they almost put them all in jail.

They were considered enemies of the state.

And so that's the book.

If you're interested in white males and what is happening to them and politics, you'd be much better

advised to read Jeremy Carl's The Unprotected Class.

And he, unlike this excuse for a book, he documents almost everything he has.

It's not a gerrymand.

It's not a polemic.

He just says that the white male is the one demographic in which somebody can say almost anything about it in the sixth decade of the civil rights movement.

You can say almost anything you want about a white male.

You can

openly say that 20%

whites are all that's going to get into Stanford.

You can say on television that these white, you're so happy that white males are now in a minority, or you can say they're dying out.

You can say anything.

And this book says that this demographic,

in schizophrenic fashion, it almost relishes the idea that they're dysfunctional in terms of, as I said, life expectancy or per capita income.

I mean, if you look at the main groups of income by tribe or ethnic, I think white males are 17th.

The top are Indian Americans, Greek Americans, Asian Americans, Chinese, Thai, all of these groups, Middle Eastern American.

And then it gets to white male them as far as per capita income.

And if you want to, and of course, according to this book, they're very violent, but when you look at FBI statistics, such as you can find them, because the FBI

either doesn't want want to release the latest statistics or a lot of left-wing big city governments will not submit crime reports to the FBI because they know what that would suggest, is

white males

at 36%

of the population or whites in general are underrepresented in every category of crime, everyone, as perps.

They are overrepresented in every category of victims.

And when you get to very rare interracial crime, which is about seven or eight percent of

all crime,

they are

about six times more likely to be violently assaulted, raped, or murdered by African Americans than they are to do that.

kind of violence to African Americans.

So you're writing a book when you say these people are very unpatriotic,

they're losers, they're violent, they're dangerous, and they flocked on January 6th and took over the Capitol.

And there's no evidence for any of that other than their hatred.

And the book is Peter Strzok.

It's Lisa Page,

it's Barack Obama, it's

Joe Biden, Chumps, Dreggs, you name it.

It's all of that invective by the bicoastal elite.

They cannot stand working people, and they feel that they can disparage white people.

And I can tell you, the weirdest thing about this book is the villain, of course, is Donald Trump because he galvanized this movement.

Donald Trump will not win in 2024 unless he polls much higher among Latinos and Asians and blacks.

In other words, non-white populations.

And he's doing that right now.

So after writing an entire book that Donald Trump is the face of white male resentment and racism, they can't explain if that is true.

Why are minorities trusting their futures?

tentatively with Donald Trump more than they ever did with John McCain, Bitt Romney, George Bush, George H.W.

Bush.

They can't.

They can't.

And that's another flaw of this book.

It's a horrible book.

Don't buy it.

Buy Jeremy Carl's The Unprotected Class if you're interested.

But do buy the new criterion to read to read Richter's review.

I have never been that angry about and so

about

reading that.

I mean, reading the book, it was very hard to read because you just,

you know.

And then the final thing thing i should say is they they can this was what was really funny they said these people are

uh

all prone to conspiracies conspiracies qon

i live in a white uh there i know a lot of white rural farming people and rural people a lot of hispanic you know i've never met anybody who believes in qon

I don't know what it is myself.

I was going to agree, say, same thing.

But I do know, I do know who believes in conspiracies and who commits conspiracies.

51 former bi-coastal elite intelligence authorities had a conspiracy.

Boom.

And they said that laptop was Russian disinformation.

And Christopher Steele and Peter Strzok and Lisa Page and Andrew McCabe and James Comey and

Jake Sullivan and all of the Hillary team had a conspiracy.

It was called Russian Collusion.

And the Steele dossier and Fusion GPS and Perkins-Coey.

That was a conspiracy.

The Alpha Bank Ping was a conspiracy.

And I think Anthony Fauci had a conspiracy to suppress the true origins of COVID.

So the conspiracies that have really mattered, they've all come from the bi-coastal elite

who thinks that they're exempt.

And they don't mention them in...

They don't mention them at all.

And so

it's very strange to read this such hatred of this class by these reporters.

And they hate Donald Trump and

they just can't accept that

it's just so reflective of that Joe Biden put down a Charlemagne Dagad when he said, you ain't black.

And that's their attitude toward

all of the minorities that might even consider to vote Trump.

It's the Marxist idea of false consciousness.

Yeah, that Chelsea Handler, did you see her?

That's kind of a professional skank going after 50 cent.

I got to tell him he's black.

He wants to vote for Trump.

Exactly.

Same thing with Hispanics.

I don't think people care anymore.

I think

the more,

you know, I live in a Hispanic community and I think.

that

especially Mexican-American males who are all very productive and self-employed, they don't want to hear anymore from their representatives in the university and the media that there's three sexes and you can kill a baby in the birth canal.

That's fine.

And you've got to pay $7 or $8 a gas soon so that we can cool the planet white China burns coal at two new plants a month.

All that stuff they're tired of.

And I think it's going to be showing in the polls.

Well, Victor's not in jail.

We've got to talk about one more thing as we truncate here, and that's we'll go back to Europe because

the hatred that the left has for the chumps is not a distinctly American leftist.

It's an international leftist trend and mindset.

We'll get your thoughts on that, Victor, right after this final important message.

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Victor, we mentioned on the last podcast these European elections and what a day it was

for conservatives or maybe I should say non-leftists in Europe, sick and tired in many nations and particularly

France and Germany, the two big boys of the EU.

I think

the left and the socialists, et cetera, got their clocks cleaned in these European Parliament elections.

Of course, the response has been twofold.

One is in Germany, I'm reading an article on the European Conservative, which is a great website.

Another great site, by the way, for coverage of these things is called the Brussels Signal.

It's English language.

But on the European Conservative, the story is the German leadership, who had a bad day at the polls.

What did they do?

What did they do?

Of course, they attacked the victors as Nazis, which is pretty rough language

in Germany.

Elsewhere at the European Parliament itself, still the center-right, or the center, I should say, is in control,

much diminished.

But in order to operate the European Parliament, what are they doing?

Are they reaching out to the to the conservative parties that have won to try and make some alliances with them, to try and

feel the what why is Europe reacting this way?

How can we work together?

No, it's to

bond with the socialist parties,

the leftist parties.

You know what it's all about?

And I'm speaking to somebody who just got back from Europe.

I mean, I've gone there almost for 20 years every summer, maybe twice some summers.

It's all about hypocrisy.

I think the middle classes have had it.

And I mean that on every level about European culture, which is a great culture.

But it's created this huge socialist paradigm where people all work for the government, not all, but you know what I mean.

And they have this technocracy, and that's their aristocracy, the socialist technocracy.

And they dictate in very undemocratic ways through their bureaucracies the way people are going to live, what they're going to listen to, what kind of news that is going to be available to them, what type of business, how many hours they can work.

Every element of their life is going to be regimented in a utopian class.

And they're told certain things, that they're racist,

that they're greedy,

that

they're settlers, they're colonialists, they're imperialist, their history is shameful.

And then they look around the world about them.

And

they are polluting the world and they've got to do this and that.

And they look around the world and say,

Our GDP is slipping away.

We used to make the best cars in the world: Mercedes,

BMW, Audi, Citroin, Peugeot.

But we don't even have the energy.

We're the only ones cutting back on coal.

We cut back on natural gas.

We cut back on nuclear.

And then our competitors who hate us are

in India and in Southeast Asia and in China, they don't have any of these woods.

And they are building as much energy any way they can to destroy our economies through,

you know,

managed trade.

And then they look at their

elites and they say, well, look at where they live and look how they work.

They're not subject to, they don't have to worry about whether they can get the strawberry crop in or whether they can milk the cow's milk will be delivered or they're not truckers.

They don't know how to make it, to do a long-haul trucking at $8 a gallon for diesel fuel.

So they're getting angry and then they're saying, well, if we're so racist, why are all these people from antithetical societies,

Islam in particular, in North Africa and the Middle East, if we were so terrible as imperialist and colonialist, wouldn't they want to keep away from us?

Why do they hate us so much if we're racist?

Why are they they coming by the thousands, by the million, 10, 20, Sweden's 20%

Middle Eastern?

Why do they come into Europe and Great Britain?

Why do they do that?

We don't understand it.

What did we do wrong?

We must have done something right.

They want to join us for freedom.

They want to join us for economy, but when they come over, they hate us.

And so it's just an anger at the hypocrisy of it all.

And they know that you can't tell the truth.

Nobody in Europe can stand up and say, look, for all the problems with the world wars and the tragedies and colonialism, Europe gave us Western civilization.

And its combination of free market economics, constitutional government,

and personal freedom allows the individual a level of security and affluence unrivaled in the world.

And no one else takes the trouble or has the ability or the desire to emulate our system other than a few rare places, such as the former British Commonwealth, Japan,

South Korea, Taiwan, a few places in Latin America.

But all the other paradigms don't work.

And so people are fleeing their own paradigms and coming into ours.

And yet they're not secure enough or confident enough to say, thank you for letting me come into your country.

They call us all sorts of names, and we don't have the backbone or the confidence to say, listen,

you either become legally under our invitation or you can't come in and you're going to leave.

And we can't do that.

And that's that frustration and hypocrisy that boils up.

And I don't know where it'll end now, but it's happening in the United States as well.

And I think people are so angry.

of people coming over from the Middle East and defiling our most

revered statues and places and commutes and bridges and universities, storming the president's office and chasing Jews into a library, all as guests, all as guests to this country.

And

why don't they just stay there with their own countries?

If Islam is so great and dictatorship is so great and Hamas is so noble and Hezbollah is so wonderful and the theocrats in Iran are so brilliant.

Why not just stay there?

Yeah.

And don't come to this decadent country, this

awful Christian

constitutional free market society.

Just stay there.

But they don't do that.

They want to come and enjoy all the benefits and then they want to bite the hand of the host.

And I know that's kind of a sweeping generalization, but it's more or less true from what we've seen on television every day since October 7th.

And people are sick of it.

They're sick of it.

These people don't understand this new woke jihadism.

They do not understand how much they're turning off people.

Everybody I talk to says, why don't you put these people in jail when they break our laws?

If they're students and they break the rules, expel them.

If they're on a visa, deport them.

Let them all go back to their wonderful countries.

Let's make a deal.

We won't go to Gaza.

We won't go to the West Bank.

We promise never to set foot in Syria.

We swear we have no idea.

We have no intention of ever going back into Iraq.

Just don't come here.

And we won't go there.

That's the attitude.

I'm not saying I, you know, feel that way, but that is what I detect people are saying in these elections in Europe.

A lot of it's on immigration and the hypocrisy of the leagues that are that are

disdainful for the very people, the muscular classes that make Europe work.

And you know, it's very tragic because Europe used to have about 60, 70% of world GDP.

And then it was 50 and 40%.

I think it's down to about 20%.

It's just not working.

It's so over-regulated.

Energy is so high.

And they're just not equipped to deal with these new markets.

We've talked before about that Clarkson's Farm

show on Amazon.

And, you know, look, it's funny in its way, but my gosh, Victor,

you've talked at length about what farmers have to

just do naturally, how difficult it is.

But my gosh, in England, the amount of regulation is, it's almost comical.

It's very sad because the Russians, you know, they're on the doorstep.

And if they annex Ukraine,

I mean, where did the whole Western military tradition begin?

It began in Europe.

They created the world's best militaries, they created the world's best weaponry, and yet they're completely unarmed and socialist.

And they're like a big fat sheep, and they're surrounded with people with shears.

And you just want to, there's a lot of good things about Europe.

When I go to Europe and I see the shopkeeper or the waiter or the taxi driver or the hotel concierge,

a lot of them are just consummate professionals, you know what I mean?

They take take it very seriously.

And they're not just kids working, you know,

as a job.

They look at it as a lifetime profession, some of them.

And they do a wonderful job.

And they have a certain idea about at least that European tradition of

professionalism and all sorts of employment.

And they're very competent people.

Very, very competent.

They're exacting.

They could be frustrating, but they're very competent.

And

we would all hate them to disappear as a major force in the world.

And yet

you can see what's happening in Spain and Norway, the way they're not recognizing the anti-Semitism is sprouting and left-wing governments.

So I think this is a very good thing.

This

no-moss, no moss.

Not this pig.

Yeah.

But we get a lot of comments, Victor, on this show.

The numbers of listeners are growing.

Folks comment on Apple and also on your website.

And

I try to, I know

you try also to

read the comments.

And I want to share one that was from your website.

It

had to do with the...

the first podcast you and I recorded when you came back from your Normandy trip.

And this one says, I thoroughly enjoyed today's podcast, especially your enthusiasm.

I wish that President Trump and other Republican politicians would listen to your podcast and glean from your wisdom.

I have heard you say that you

know your limitations and would not want to be in politics, but I think that you would make a wonderful advisor to the president.

There are lots of exclamation points in here, and that's from Okie Girl.

And that's terrific, Okie Girl.

Thank you for for your uh praise of victor and all uh his his wisdom thanks to others who um have left the comments victor i want to uh let our listeners know uh you're active on x which used to be known as twitter so check that out at vd hansen is victor's handle there's a great uh friends of victor uh victor davis hansen fan club which is on facebook uh you have vdh's morning cup on on Facebook.

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Victor, you've been a champion here working through

Anthony Fauci's disease.

You've been terrific as ever.

Thanks.

for all the wisdom you shared.

Again, folks, thanks for listening.

And we will be back soon with another episode of the Victor Davis-Hanson Show.

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