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He's the Martin and Ely Anderson Senior Fellow at the Hoover Institution and the Wayne and Marsha Busky Distinguished Fellow in History at Hillsdale College.

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I think we'll ask that.

But there are some more important topics than that to discuss first.

An important new study that shows just how drastic the consequences of the COVID vaccine have been.

Oh my God,

talk about that.

You're talking to a long COVID survivor.

Well,

at least you survived.

Well,

the consequences of the vaccine have been.

There are a lot of people that are not around to talk about it because they've been off by the vaccine.

But Victor, Victor, we'll get to all this.

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Victor,

some of the information in this report

is really, really

shocking.

But indulge me here and let me just share this with you and with our listeners and then get your take on all this, Victor.

So the overall risk of death induced by injection with the COVID-19 vaccines in actual populations

is globally pervasive and much larger than reported in clinical trials, adverse effect monitoring and cause of death statistics from death certificates.

How much?

How much larger, Victor?

It says here by three orders of magnitude, which means a 1,000 fold greater.

It says here that in the world population, if it's extrapolated, there was one death

per every 470 living people in less than three years from the COVID vaccine, not from COVID, the COVID vaccine.

It did not measurably prevent any deaths.

If you could take this information and apply it to the United States,

There were at least, according to this report, at least 340,000 American deaths associated with the COVID vaccine.

And final thing here, Victor.

Vaccines did not reduce serious illness, as claimed by the manufacturers, enough to reduce any risk of death.

Victor, this is,

maybe it's not surprising as someone who suffered long-term COVID, but there are a lot of dead people

because of the vaccine, in addition to people dead because of COVID.

And this is in a report that should be on the front page of the New York Times and the Washington Post, et cetera.

But no way, no way we're hearing about this except by these

little sideways means.

But your thoughts.

I'm not an

immunologist, and I'm not an epidemiologist.

So

I can't weigh in and critique that news account in a professional manner.

I can just say that

that narrative, as an observer of popular opinion in the news, that narrative that Anthony Fauci gave us, that if you were to trust him

and Francis Collins and the groups that they represent, Pfizer that they had dealt with, and Moderna and others, and you got this MRNA vaccination, two of them, and then a series of boosters, how it was sold to us was

that you would not get COVID, 96%,

and you would not give people COVID.

And we learned within a few months that was a lie.

I got the second Moderna at the end of February 2021,

and I got a bad case of Delta in August at Hillsdale College.

And so it didn't work.

I have a member of my family, I won't mention names, who had to have a biopsy and a series of CAT scans

for certain types of possible malignancies that were not malignancies, but

they showed up as possible malignancies

under exam and under x-rays.

I should say that's

would include CAT scans in MRI.

And the people who conducted them understood that that was not irregular, that people who had these vaccinations sometimes showed irregular scans

and that that was not a reason to do a serious biopsies, although this member of my family did.

So, and then I've had people who work for me and associate with me.

who have had one and two and three boosters.

And I can tell you that

some cases, when you get a booster, they almost came down when they traveled with COVID.

And there was almost the perception, Jack, that,

and I think it's borne out with some scientific support, that when you get these vaccinations and

your body starts to produce these, because they're not vaccinations, they're more like genetic re-engineering.

starts to produce these spike proteins of different shapes or forms to match the current mutant COVID virus that's out there, that that taxes your immune system and that you're more vulnerable for a while.

And I think that's true of flu vaccinations, traditional ones too, that your white blood count may go down for a bit while you're trying to,

or your T cells while you're trying to produce these.

So there were all these things that no one talked about.

And when I got my second Moderna, I was very ill.

And then Delta, bam,

very ill.

And then I got Omicron and I thought, well, you know, I've had two vaccinations.

I've already had this.

No, and I just ignored it, tested

negative within five days.

And bam, I had lung COVID.

I've just, everything fell apart for about a year and a half.

And so, and I don't know if that had anything to do with these.

with these vaccinations.

People suggest, well, you, I've had people tell me that.

But the point I'm getting at is

they don't, no one comes out and says, I think it was understandable and we rushed out these mRNA vaccinations too soon without sufficient testing.

Or we had to get them out because COVID was killing elderly people and we should have focused on elderly people first that didn't have long periods to live anyway, people like myself, and just focus on them, but not have given them to children or young men or people who were in robust hell.

And the same thing is true now.

We're starting to see this whole facade crumble because I think you will also see these associated stories where people are saying the lockdowns were in disaster.

The New York Times said that about children just this week.

Children never really recovered from the lack of mathematical and grammatical and analytical training.

They lost it and they're still catching up and they don't know if they'll ever catch up.

So the lockdowns and every, I don't think we would have ever had the George Floyd riots.

I don't think we would have ever had the January 6th Fuhrer.

I don't think we would have had any of this had we not shut down the entire country and confined people for over a year in their homes.

And so the whole thing is a disaster.

And right now, we're starting to see, as I said, the dam broke of censorship.

and we're starting to see accurate assessments of the damage that the quarantine did.

We're starting to see accurate assessments where the COVID virus originated.

We're starting to see the truth about the Chinese and their role in it.

We're starting to see, I think, some new stories, as you just referenced, about the vaccinations, that it was a new unproven type of inoculation, and we didn't really know the ramifications.

And now when we look at it epidemiologically, we can't see that fewer people in a given studied population died

because they were safe and inoculated from COVID.

And the inverse may be true in other studies that it caused such an immune response than the inflammation or whatever term we use that it affected people in a very negative way and killed them.

So

I guess we're going to see everything start to come out now.

And I think that Anthony Fauci is no longer a hero.

Francis Collins is no longer a hero.

Dr.

Brooks is no longer a hero.

The Moderna and Pfizer CEOs are no longer heroes because they gave us a narrative and they were so intolerant of any criticism or dissent.

And that Jay Bachayara Bacheria was a hero and Scott Atlas was a hero.

Martin Kullendorf was a hero.

And

I think we're going to see that the people who were skeptical that were demonized and those brave soldiers in the military,

eight or nine thousand of them, they said, you know what,

I can handle the COVID, but I don't want to get an untested experimental inoculation.

And they kicked them out of the military.

And now what are they doing?

They're writing them letters, Jack, and asking them to come back.

It's basically they said, well, we kicked you out because we were in this frenzied state of mind, and we were puritanical, we have no dissent, and you were an insurrectionist, sort of a January 6th person, and we want you Trump guys out.

And then they said, oh my God.

These are the people who die at double their demographics in Afghanistan and Iraq, and they never complain.

And we just kicked them out.

And now we're short 50,000 people in the military.

And the military has just humiliated itself in Afghanistan.

It's short munitions, and it's getting a terrible press because of its DEI fixation.

And the joint

chairman of the joint chief who just stepped down, Mr.

Milley, didn't do us any favors.

And when the retired four-stars who weighed in and contrary to the Uniform Code of Military Justice or whatever, we have a problem.

So when you people come back, we need you.

Forget about how we drove you out.

Forget what we said about you.

Forget about the discharges.

Just come back.

We promise we'll forget everything, but we need you.

That's what they're doing now.

Well, they couldn't tell us anything with certainty about the drug or the vaccine or whatever you want to call it itself.

But with certainty, they could tell you that you were an American or you were a Christian.

It gets me really angry what they did to the military people.

It gets me really angry

where I work, what people did to Scott Atlas and what they said about him, and they have no apologies.

It gets me really, really angry about how people canonized Anthony Fauci when he flat out went under oath and said that he was, there was no money going to gain a function research.

He knew that was untrue and there were no ramifications.

It gets me so angry when I hear stories about the lockdown.

When I had a granddaughter who's mentally, I guess she would say, disabled, genetically disabled.

And she's walking down the streets of Santa Cruz, and somebody pulls over and she's not able to wear a mask

outdoors with nobody except my daughter around her.

Somebody pulls over and yells at her and screams at her.

And all of these stories.

And

these people that it was almost like the Say-them witch trials.

It was a period of American hysteria and madness.

And it's

enormous damage to us.

That guy paddleboarding out in the Pacific and

the cops trying to arrest him.

I mean,

out in the middle of skateboarding.

And then it was almost vigilantes.

I mean,

it wasn't like

these are this.

What's so weird about the left?

You can be in a subway in New York and somebody's about, a career criminal is about ready to hurt somebody and you grab him and they're going to put you in jail.

Or you pull out a gun and say, don't kill that person.

They'll put you in jail.

So they hate vigilantes, but they'll come out of the woodwork and scream and yell at a person without a mask.

and just go hysterical and try to ruin their lives or they'll try to cancel them about things that they know nothing about about, other than that they're self-righteous, and they're going to, their life is so important.

And don't you, ignorant people, endanger it by breathing 100 yards away a molecule that might go into their respiratory system.

That's how they think.

And they, and boy, the psychological, socio-economic,

social, psycho

ramifications of these last three years are just, it's, and I met so many people.

I've been speaking a lot.

Finally, I got back into speaking in the month of November, Jack.

And I have so many people at the end of a talk or before a talk, they would come up and say, I don't recognize this country.

I cannot recognize it.

I filled up for gas.

It was $150

for my truck.

Or they'll say, I went to San Francisco.

I can't believe what I saw in the street.

Or they'll say, wow, I went and bought a steak.

It was $28 for one steak at the store.

What happened?

Or they'll, you know, now after October 7th, who are these people?

Don't they understand you can't go in and mutilate and kill and murder and rape?

Don't you understand that?

And so I don't know what caused this collective madness, but a lot of people are starting to see

that

They've got to do something.

They've got to stand up and stop this stuff.

And

don't expect any apologies from the people who did the damage.

Do not expect anybody in the Pentagon to write a letter of apology to the people they drove out of the military.

Do not expect anybody at the CDC

or the FBA or any of those alphabet

soup agencies to apologize.

No.

No.

No, no, no, no, no.

They won't.

And we live in a shameless age.

Hey, Victor,

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We're back with the Victor Davis Hansen Show.

Victor, you know, people love to hear your wisdom and your analyses of world events and trends and culture and the academy, but there's a lot of people who are

also quite interested in Victor Davis Hansen himself.

So Victor,

a little, let me pose this to you.

You can have whatever Thanksgiving dinner you want to have.

And Mrs.

Hansen, who, by the way, I must tell all our listeners, is a

great lady and a phenomenal cook.

But

what she wants doesn't matter.

It's just what you want.

So

what is a Victor Davis Hansen preferred Thanksgiving dinner?

And I do very much want to know your preferred pie choice and what kind of stuffing you like if you do like stuffing well i mean we have to start i have to start by confessing i am a lousy cook and someone's cooking it for you you don't have to cook it yourself but i'm also a lousy uh critic of cooking because i'll eat anything because when i get hungry but i've been very fortunate my life that my wife and my family when i grew up were wonderful cooks so maybe the fact that i didn't pay attention

was

the food.

I think everybody, I'm 70.

When you get that age, something happens to you.

You start living in the past too much.

But

when I think, when I come to a holiday, I think of the period, say,

1957, 58 to 19,

I guess I'd say 78, that 20-year period between the ages of four or five and 25.

And it was really, I was very fortunate because we had a small little farmhouse.

It was only 800 square feet.

And then my dad added 600 feet in a separate house.

So we had to walk, I think I said, you know, we went from the bedroom outside to the kitchen and living room.

And we all shared, you know, first one bathroom and then we had two.

But on Thanksgiving, it was,

I guess, that generation that they were the first to go to college and their their generation, my mom and dad, but they were into this self-help.

So they studied, they read voraciously cookbooks and they would watch these first generation TV shows once in a while.

Julia Child.

Yeah, they knew every, they loved Julia Child.

And they would try to experiment and they would ask for people's recipes.

And the result was on Thanksgiving, my parents were like a team.

They got up and my dad did the turkey and the stuffing.

And then my mother did cranberry sauce and started to do these

potatoes were like, I don't know, they just taste mashed potatoes.

And then she started baking apple and pumpkin pies.

And then they would make homemade ice cream.

And my gosh, by the, and then they had...

We had this house.

It was very small, but they just turned this three or 400 square foot living room in the old house into a one long table.

And then it was our job to round up all of the extended family.

So it was easy to get my grandparents.

They were living in the house that I live now, but my aunt was crippled with polio.

So I would go down and I'd get their old fair lane.

I would walk down and get their fair lane and then get the wheelchair and put my aunt in and then my grandparents and drive them the quarter mile down, unload them, put them there very early so they could watch the cooking.

And they were helpful.

And then

my father, we had a great uncle who didn't like us, but we liked him.

And

he's a Bronco buster.

Yeah, he was, I liked him.

I liked him, but a lot of people didn't.

He was my grandmother's brother.

He was called Tango.

He was something else.

12 years old, he rode a horse all the way from New Mexico.

I loved talking to him, but

he wasn't the saint that my grandfather was.

But nevertheless, then I got this care package from my father, and then I would drive over

about four miles to his farmhouse, and he had his cowboy boots and his brandy and his little cigarette.

He lived to be 96.

And I would hand him all this food, and he would have a drink with me.

And then I would drive back.

And then we wait for my Swedish grandfather to come.

And he came from Kingsburg, the Swedish colony.

And then he would sit with my, he and my grandfather, my maternal and paternal grandfather, got along great.

They were very different.

One was a,

I guess you'd call a horsebreaker.

He broke horses and had, you know, he grew up with animals and sold, bought and sold goats and sheep, broke horses for people.

And then my grandfather was a farmer, but they talked.

And then my aunt was there with my mother.

And then my mother's other sister, and this is very sad because my aunt died of kidney cancer, my mom died of brain cancer, and my aunt, who was a college professor at a community college, had gone with my mom to Stanford in the 40s.

And she came over with her family,

my uncle-in-law and my first cousins, and they were coming.

And then my dad's sister would come with her three kids and her husband, and you put them all together.

Then we had a person who

When my mom went to work, she would babysit us sometimes, Bertha.

She's Mexican-American.

and then she would come and they would all be there.

And it was like 20 people, 25.

And it was just a madhouse, but then the food was delicious.

And then it was kind of, you know, I don't know if it was the Scandinavian, but it was just tons of coffee.

My dad made really good coffee

and tons of coffee and then ice cream and pie.

And this dinner that started at one would go on till about seven,

8 at night.

And then there were leftovers that people would stay.

And then they

can tell you something really gross, though, that my mom and dad, we lived in a little country, and we had an ancient cesspool and septic tank.

And so when the Christmas and Thanksgiving started to get on the horizon, my mom would get paranoid.

We only had one bathroom in the whole thing for 20 people.

So then it was Victor and his two brothers dug,

went out in the lawn and dug out two feet down and then took this, these two big things and then got the old

pump, gas pump.

It wasn't a Honda, believe me, I wish it was.

It was an old Briggs and Spratten or Tecumseh engine.

And then we put a hose down there and we bumped this crap through

50 feet of hose and pipes out into the vineyard, which you're not supposed to do way out there.

And then, of course, we would go get the tractor and disc it under.

And then we had to pump up this, the liquid.

We didn't have a leech line.

It was a septic and a sepulchre.

And then we would get it all done.

And then if it got really bad, one of us got a ladder, went down to the bottom because

my father would say, well, you know, it's not draining because the cesspool is not draining because there's too much crap got in there and we didn't pull and it's coated the bottom.

So you go, Victor, go down there with a bucket and dig it out so you see sand again.

then we do that.

And then we would get it all ready, like, you know, the first of November.

And then we would tell my mom, there's not going to be any sewage problems.

I don't know.

I think they had the money to call people to pump it up, but they had us do it.

That's right.

But you had children, Rotoruda.

Yeah, we were like the, I don't know, there's too many children to do all these things.

And then it was, you know, we, but then it was, uh,

and then it was hunt, hunt the, um,

hunt for all the, borrow the chairs and tables from my grandparents and everybody.

And then

one thing I do remember was for that generation, it was really strange because they didn't have money, but my grandparents had the most beautiful sterling silver set and

bone china, you know, beautiful china.

And my parents did too.

And they would, we would go down and get their 24 set and my parents and they would have this beautiful silver.

And the night before, they would just spend, they would be up late, and we had to help polish all the silver.

People don't do that anymore.

I don't.

They don't.

No.

People don't want China for wedding gifts or silver for wedding gifts.

I don't know what it is, but I have this beautiful China from my grandparents and from my parents.

And I gave it to my daughter, beautiful silver, sterling silver set.

Place settings.

So it was just,

it was just a wonderful time.

And then they would sit there, these people, my grandparents in their 70s, and it was, well, you know, there was old

Pete Jensen, and didn't he marry the girl over there in Sanger?

Yes, they did.

And they had a 20 acres.

Now, what happened?

Oh, he died, he died.

Remember that?

And then they would just go on these genealogies for hours.

And then there was no political politics at all.

And they had these sayings, you know, you'd say, and that's all there is to that.

And

you say something, and that's it.

And that's what it was.

And let me tell you,

it was like, and it's cold as ice outside, hot as the firecracker in here, that stuff and that language, that 19th century dialogue, you know, world dialogue.

It was kind of an accent of Midwestern, California.

I don't know what it was, but they had, my grandfather had a Swedish accent, but one of them.

But it was a weird,

it was

everybody was part of a little link in this big family chain.

And

it was a period where I don't remember death for that moment.

There's must be generational when you are

in, you know, five, six, seven, eight, 10, 12, your parents are in their 40s, early 40s or late 30s, and they're in their prime.

And then their parents are in their early 70s, you know what I mean?

So you don't hear people dying.

And so it was all robust.

And then when you got in your 20s, you know, my aunt got breast cancer and died at 49.

My other got kidney cancer in their 50s.

My mom got brain, and it was everybody dying.

Yeah.

But not that.

It was just like everything was pristine.

It was like super human.

But, and they, there was no talk about pessimism the way that I should, you know, Eeyore talk.

Eeyore, right?

Yeah.

It was all self, it was can-do.

You know, JFK was a great president, and, you know,

and

the country's on the move and upward mobility.

And if you didn't have very much, it didn't matter, you know.

And then they would say, I remember my grandfather finally saved up my suite and bought a Dodge dart with a slant six.

And my dad said, oh, my God, dad, you bought a slant six Dodge.

How'd you afford that?

It runs forever.

You know, it was, it was all upbeat.

It was not, I don't remember.

We were going to the moon, you know, I mean, yeah, it was.

It was can do.

And then every once in a while, they would talk if they, and they didn't drink it.

My dad later drank a lot, but at that time around us, he didn't drink very much, and they didn't drink.

But it was, they'd talk about, you know, World War II.

And,

well, you know, he, the Jensen, or the Jorgensen boy, he, he got it in the head at Normandy.

I remember that.

And they would talk about that, the war, because, you know, in 1957, when I was first memories, 58, right?

The war was you know, 15, only 15 years, right?

And so it was like today talking about, well, it was much closer than 9-11 is than is 9-11 is to us at today's stock market meltdown 2008, right?

Yes, it was something like that.

And it was an immediate memory, and they knew a lot of people who had been killed in the family and outside the family.

So that was a topic.

And then I just remembered that I don't think anybody thought, I look back and I think, wait, your parents went to college and your dad was trying to farm and teach.

And your mom was a home mom.

And then she went, but she did have a law degree.

And why were you living in an 800 square foot farmhouse, right?

They had to clean your own cesspool.

And then we had all you, we never bought a new car in my entire life.

I can say that.

My parents never bought a new car, not one.

Maybe they leased one when my mom got to be about 58.

Yeah.

So we had all these cars out there and we were working on them all the time.

Their idea was you get six used cars and you have three spares and then you drive them and then somebody picks you up when one breaks down.

And you know, and that's that I can remember that.

But there was never any sense, well, we're poor or those guys have more than we do.

There was no, I don't remember that, any envy or anger.

Or, you know, when you had Thanksgiving, the food was so delicious.

And a lot of it, you know, we had,

we lived on a ranch, so our farm.

So we had raisins and we had,

we, they had canned things like tomatoes and canned peaches and stuff.

Did you have turkeys next?

Did you tell them about within those eucalyptus trees?

Yes, I have a big eucalyptus.

I had a big farm.

we did and i i have childhood nightmares about that because in the 19th century when they came here they didn't have wood obviously

and they the sierras were a long way away so they came up with this idea of planting Australian bluegum, which is a variety of eucalyptus, because they didn't need any water.

And they got enormous.

But the problem was the wood split.

And the barn that I'm looking out the window right now is built with eucalyptus.

And when I tried to save it last year when they rebuilt it, parts of it, I kept the eucalyptus

two by sixes.

They're not two by sixes.

They're tree trunks.

And they still hold it up after 150 years.

But you go in there.

And so then they would abandon it because the leaves would sterilize the soil.

They have oil in it, you know, eucalyptus oil.

So once you have a grove of an acre to get wood, and once the wood didn't work,

then you couldn't get rid of it because it killed everything around it.

The leaves would blow and sterilize the soil and you use it for firewood.

But it would go crazy, like 60 feet high, and you'd go in there.

It would be pitch black.

Well, every animal in the world would go in there, coyotes, foxes,

owls, hawks, eagles,

anything.

And so people use that shade.

And the one next to us, they put turkeys in there and they would get out and stuff.

But then we would sneak in there, and we'd always run home by saying, Oh my God,

a great horn owl is going to pick us up and drop us on the ground, or oh, there's a red tail, or there's a big eagle in there, or this fox attacked us.

Or there's, I talked about the weasels, but there were weasels everywhere, we thought.

Yeah, it was like a childhood nightmare to go in there.

And even when I was older,

the person who owned it was pretty eccentric.

But we had a deal where his eucalyptus two acres would blow leaves onto our vineyard, and then the leaves would be ground up in the soil and the oil, and then it would kill the vines.

So we were allowed to cut down, I think, 50 trees that border, were right on the border so that their leaves wouldn't blow.

So

we had to cut them down.

But every

summer, my grandfather would take us out there, and we had to take knives or saws and cut down down every bud, every little tweet,

anything that was sprouting from those stumps.

We did maybe 100 stumps.

I did that every summer so that these awful eucalyptus

would not sterilize our vineyard.

What a good, it was a wonderful childhood.

I don't understand why some people.

I mean, I empathize with people who have very bad memories, but I know that there were things that weren't perfect.

But as you get older, you romanticize or you're realistic.

I don't know.

I don't know if my siblings share that, but I feel like I had,

I was, anything that I've been

good at came from that childhood, put it that way, because it was just,

it was, and it wasn't helicopter parentage.

That was so weird.

It was like,

you know, Victor, go down and get your grandparents.

And should I, well, I don't know.

You just do it.

Go do it.

And bring them back here.

I need them back here in an hour.

You know what I mean?

Here, here's some food.

Go take it to your uncle.

Well, what car?

Don't ask me.

Just do it.

And it was that responsibility was really good.

And, you know, and then you got rewarded by, hey, you've been driving all over, getting all the relish.

Sit down and have some ice cream and pie, and a second and third helping.

So it was that kind of parentage.

Yeah.

And God,

I don't think I

was.

I was not the parent that my parents were.

I feel bad about that.

Well, all right, Victor, don't come on.

Don't

Thanksgiving.

And, you know, I think I wrote too much or I was too

read Greek too much.

Whatever it was, I didn't give the,

I don't know, I wasn't involved as much as I should have, but I wish I was.

This is just a Thanksgiving reminder that

any time you spend with your family or children, it's not,

you cannot, never spend too much time.

Yeah.

All right.

And that's.

I totally agree with that.

I've

got five, and it's a blessing to be with them.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I've never, I've met a lot of people.

And I always, you know, when they talk about children, you know what I've never heard?

I've never seen yet, I'm not exaggerating, a person 70 suggest even subtly that they had too many children.

I've heard

thousands say, I wish I had another child.

Yeah.

Isn't that weird?

Well, it is

the instruction instruction is be fruitful and multiply, not

people would say, oh my gosh, I had five or six children.

I just was so tired.

I wish I just had two or one,

which is understandable, but I never heard that.

Well, I'm one of 10, so

I might rank them, but I can't see

who I would get rid of.

Anyway, Victor,

we've gone way over.

I just.

We're way over.

Sorry, everybody.

No,

I have to say one thing about Thanksgiving.

in new york in the bronx very different than than uh thanksgiving on a farm in the central valley but the big thing about thanksgiving was that the local tv station channel 9 w-or-r would broadcast king kong

and and king kong got associated with thanksgiving in the north king kong the original Yeah, oh, yeah.

Was there a Fei Ray in that?

Fei Ray, yeah.

It was terrific, terrific.

Why they made it a Thanksgiving Day tradition is beyond me, but it was kind of strange.

Anyway, Victor, you've been terrific.

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Victor, you've been terrific.

Happy Thanksgiving to the Hanson clan.

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Thank you.