The Biden Doctrine and the Middle East

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In this episode, Victor Davis Hanson and cohost Jack Fowler discuss the inflation optimism on the Left, anti-Israel diplomacy, our intelligence community, normalizing diplomacy in Iran, and who is really culpable for the Hamas-Israel war.

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He is the Martin and Ely Anderson Senior Fellow at the Hoover Institution and the Wayna Marshabuski Distinguished Fellow in History at Hillsdale College right now, because there's so much happening, so much of gargantuan importance.

I'm going to mention the date.

We're recording on October 14th.

That's Saturday.

Who knows by the time this particular episode is up on the World Wide Web, which probably be the ensuing Thursday.

I think that's the 19th or thereabouts.

You know, Victor, there may be a new speaker of the House.

There may be some

incredible incident in Gaza.

We don't know.

But

we will cover those things after the fact.

But right now, I think today, Victor, we have, it's an opportunity to look at some of the Some of the folks who you think share the blame,

should shoulder the blame, should be blamed for the predicament we are in in the Middle East, that we America are in globally.

And

before that, though, American citizens

are in a predicament, an economic predicament.

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Americans suffering.

For record, 49% of Americans

say living standards are eroding under Biden.

That's up 10% in

one month.

I'm kind of surprised it's only 49%, but it's a...

Whoever keeps these records,

this is record level.

Well, of course, Joe Biden is going around tight,

promoting bidenomics as if it's some masterful thing.

Meanwhile, Victor,

Paul Krugman, New York Times columnist and Nobel Prize-winning economist, which I just don't understand,

I'll call it a lie.

Krugman says the war on inflation is over.

Not so fast, others say.

So, Victor, here's a Nobel economist who.

Former Enron economist

correct.

Who looks at inflation and says it's over, but does not include the costs for food,

energy, shelter, used car in his calculations.

So Victor, America's suffering.

Anything you'd like to say about that?

I guess we're not suffering because the price of jewelry hasn't gone up.

I don't know what he's talking about, but you know,

in

the last year or last 18 months,

I had a decision to make with this older house and all these buildings that used to be the center of a 180-acre farming complex.

And they were built by my great-great-grandmother, and I didn't know what to do.

We had a fire in the house, and so

I don't think my children want to come back, but I decided to redo them all to their former glory.

It took about a year and a half.

But the point I'm making, Jack, is that I am just finishing now.

And I looked at, I just was curious.

So I talked to some of the guys that worked and asked me, I asked them how much they would have charged me in 2018 or 19

when we had 1.8% inflation.

Or I looked at plywood.

You know, I've used, I had to put fluorine in, inch and a quarter plywood, new roof, insulation, air conditioning, metal ducty, sewage system, well, everything.

And I came up with a figure of about $120,000 extra it would cost me had I done it.

I would have saved that much two years earlier, i.e., when Biden came into office.

And

I bought a pickup, and then my son needed it, so I helped him with that and then got another one.

I looked at the price of these pickups, what they were when Joe Biden came into office, and I figured it was about

$12,000 to $15,000 more.

And so when he says bodynomics and people talk about the real world,

and I just was driving by on the way to the airport yesterday in Palo Alto and looking at gasoline prices, $6,

$6 a gallon.

And diesel was almost seven in the Bay Area.

So what I'm saying is when people have to eat, And we had a party, Bruce Thornton, my colleague,

has about the same birthday.

So we, last weekend, we both, you know, were 70 recently, so we had it.

And so I thought I was going to go get a few steaks for 12 people.

Do you know what a really good ribeye steak is?

Not a big one, it's $35.

And I thought, wow.

And so what people have to do, and nobody can buy those except for a special occasion, I went to the checkout and the woman said to me,

she said, you, do you realize what the butcher wrote on these?

I said, Yes.

And she said, It's $230.

Do you still want to buy them?

I'm having these people over $230.

And I thought they were, she goes, Are they made of gold?

Ha ha.

And

so

in the real world, whether you're buying meat, I don't say that everybody buys a steak, but even hamburger and gas and

your natural gas for your heater and your electric bill and

housing.

It's just out of sight.

For them to just look at us in the eye and say, binomics work.

No, it was a disaster.

You destroyed the middle class.

And that's why we're going to have strikes like you wouldn't believe.

It just so reminds me of the Carter years.

Everything about the Carter years, stagflation,

stagnation.

and the whole world abroad, whether it was Soviets in Afghanistan or the Iranian hostages or the missiles put against Germany.

The whole thing was a,

it was just a complete meltdown with one big caveat that Jimmy Carter looked himself in the mirror and said, I'm an idiot

and my idiot policies may get us killed.

So I'm going to have a Carter doctrine that no area that was American is now going to fall in the hands of the Soviet Union and he upped the defense budget.

And I don't see Joe Biden doing that.

In real dollars, he's cutting it every year.

Yeah.

I was thinking the other way, a better way of putting it was if you take Israel and you said, I want to do all I

can,

according to my station as president in the next in two and a half years of my new administration to hurt the Jewish state.

Now, get me a bunch of people and bring in old Robert Maui, get Blinken in here.

Let's get the Obamas on the phone.

Let's get Bernie Sanders in here, and let's get a policy.

And you would not have done, you couldn't have done anything worse.

And it would have been something like this.

How can we hurt Israel?

Well, let's give them $6 billion because

they only are giving Hamas $100 million a year.

They only have 100,000 rockets.

Let's get that up to 200.

And Hezbollah, too.

Okay.

And make sure you ask for hostages so you institutionalize hostage taking so they know when they take in a hostage that's worth several million dollars.

Oh, did we get all the the sanctions off?

Yeah, we did.

Well, let's make sure that nobody sanctioned that oil.

And did we beg them to pump more like we did the Russians and the Venezuelans before the midterms because we needed that price?

Yeah, we did that.

Okay, let's turn to the Palestinians.

Did we, you know, and Trump cancel all that?

Did we get that phony UN thing up so they could convey 700?

Yeah, yeah, yeah, we did that.

And did we get it?

Did we make sure it got to the...

Well, yeah, Blinken went over there and he bragged that we had given an aggregate billion dollars.

Did it get to Hamas?

Yeah, yeah, it got to Hamas.

And did anybody catch on?

Well, you know, the State Department said it probably ended up terrorism, but who listens to them?

Okay, that's good.

And did we pressure Israel?

Did we make sure that Netanyahu never steps foot here in Washington in any official capacity?

Yeah, yeah, yeah, we did that.

And

what else do we need to do?

Well,

we need to get the ABOM Accords going.

We trashed that because of Trump's fingerprints, fingerprints, but now we're kind of, you know, we don't have anything else to do.

It's a disaster.

So we're going to bring that back, but we're going to have it in the context of Israel giving concessions.

And so that's pretty good what we're doing.

And that's what they did.

And they couldn't have done a better job.

Yeah.

Sounds like a column, Victor.

The Biden doctrine.

I think

you should

do that.

Hey, speaking of lying,

Leon Panetta, former congressman, he was actually a Republican once upon a time.

Yes, he was.

He's about two and a half hours district is from where I'm speaking right now.

I'd met him, I debated him once.

I debated him.

My wife was a certain place.

It was up in Yosemite, and our local congressman at the time, Jim Costa, asked me to come up and politely,

and it was during the Obama years,

or maybe it was at the end of the Bush administration.

And

I remember he said,

we're going to have a civil debate.

It's going to be civil.

And then we don't want to be ad hominem for.

I said, fine.

So

he started, and it was just

the Iraq war or these crazy right-wing nuts.

And it was just an ad hominem talk, attack against anybody who didn't vote for Clinton-Obama.

And so, but it was, it was very weird because he had a veneer of friendliness and

amiable,

the Democrat Republicans can like kind of stick to him.

But it was very hardcore that you're an enemy.

And so

I debated him.

I didn't think I did okay.

And then I just said, nah, I'm not going to stay here.

And I just got in the car and drove out.

And

it

so, and I met a lot of Republicans that, you know, do business with him because I think he's an entrepreneur now.

He was, he was fundamental in the Cal State and Monterey, CSU Monterey, which I think has been a disaster.

It's a very politicized new campus at the old Fort Ord Army base.

So I looked at the curriculum online not too long ago, and it's about the most radical of all the 23 campuses.

And,

you know, he's an icon.

He's got a lot of Republican friends.

So I'm not going to trash him or anything.

I just that I didn't expect, I don't expect him to be a voracious source of bipartisan

correct anything.

Yeah.

Well, he had an opportunity to be at least honest the other day.

Brett Baer had him on,

I don't know if it was on his show.

It was midday.

Anyway, he was interviewing him for Fox.

Panetta is a former defense secretary, also head of CIA.

He's also one of the signers, the 50-plus signers of the infamous Hunter Biden letter,

a Russian collusion letter.

So after

Bear asked him about Israel and Gaza, he said, well, you're here.

I might as well ask you.

You know, it's essentially, this has been proven false.

It was proven, it was Hunter Biden himself said it was his damn laptop.

Do you regret signing the letter?

And

he did not.

I even say he was footed.

Go ahead.

Well,

it was the elder Cato Carthago Delendez.

That's all he could say.

You know, Carthage must be destroyed.

Well,

Senator Cato,

they have met all of their terms of the Second Punic War, and they paid off.

Carthage must be destroyed.

you know, Brett Burr said, do you, you know, this, this evidence has come out?

And do you want to retract or reconsider the russians are dangerous the russians are dangerous i have no apologies for uh hunting up uh but hunter biden himself has said that well the russians are dangerous and i that's all he did he just mouthed this he didn't want to talk all he all he had to do was it was a climate of hysteria Mike Morrell called up Anthony Blinken, our Secretary of State, said, can we give Joe Biden a repartee in the next debate?

Because Trump's going to mention the laptop.

And

maybe we can say it's Russian disinformation.

Can you get the gang up?

Yeah, let's get, well, we have to get some liars.

Who's the best liars in the intelligence?

Well, Brennan's lied twice.

Let's get him.

Well, how about Clapper?

He lied.

He even admitted he lied.

Well, they'll make them the kingpins and they'll get some other.

They'll get,

I think Hayden signed it, right?

He's the guy that thought, basically, he said that,

who did he say, what what did he say yesterday he just he Michael Hayden the former CIO director that had used a lot of Nazi metaphors something about assassinating Republicans yeah yeah he's he said that

Tuberville you know the guy blocking him he said basically that he wishes he was gone I mean dead and so

That's what that was what it was all about.

And then they got the regular guys that were the Washington factotums, and they knew they would lie, and they all signed it, and none of them have said, I lied.

And we had

an albeit conservative poll that said post facto that that thing changed their vote for a minority large enough to affect the election.

And Hunter's never, all Hunter's done is his lawyers have said, basically, we're suing the computer repairman for delete.

releasing this material that in theory could maybe sort of be hunters, but we're not saying it is hunters.

That's what they're doing.

And it's Orwellian.

So, yeah, Leon Panetta, he's

the everybody should remember that there's a whole class of the Bill Clintons, the Leon Panettas, and they're a lot smoother than Joe Biden.

And they're even more effective than the Obamaites that are really, that show they're radical, radical.

These guys are, I'm for bipartisan, and

I work across the, and they're very hardcore partisans, but they just have it down a lot better.

Yeah.

And they came out in force with a laptop.

Remember, they came out in force with the Benghazi lied about the nature of that attack on us and basically said a video maker had caused a spontaneous

terrorist attack that nobody could have foreseen.

Wasn't that guy arrested even?

Yeah,

they

reversed his probation.

I think they put him back in jail for a year, and then they blamed him.

They blamed him for making a video.

And we had, I won't mention names, but we had some distinguished military people who swore under oath, apparently, that you could put a sophisticated

GPS mortar into the hands of a complete novice, and he could be an expert mortar person that could fire several hundred yards away and kill somebody right on target.

And that was the evidence that it was spontaneous, rather than having somebody trained, trained, and this was an al-Qaeda-radical Islam thing that was planned, and there was plenty of warning that was going to come.

And we deliberately did not want to seem like we were occupiers, although we were.

So we didn't beef up any of the security

because we didn't.

That's what we always do when we're on the left.

We don't want to offend our host.

We don't want to offend radical Islam.

We don't want to offend Mexico.

We don't want to offend Hamas.

And if that requires some people to die, well, that's collateral damage.

And that's why I think people are, we have a problem because people are not joining the Army and they're not joining the Air Force and they're not joining the Navy.

Soon they may not join the Marines.

And the answer is they don't want to be collateral damage.

They don't want to be indoctrinated and told, you're going to, this is LGBQ and there's three genders and BLM and you got to read Professor Kendi and then we're going to send you over to Afghanistan, put you in a very dangerous thing and your commander is going to have to call the International Criminal Court or something before he does an

artillery strike or he's going to be under that pressure from which it emanates.

And

they don't want to do it because they think that their commanders or their diplomats put their lives and their livelihoods second and

first not to offend people abroad that they're either scared of or they feel have legitimate grievances against the United States.

And they're everywhere.

And we know they're everywhere because all you have to do is see what they say right during a crisis.

Jake Sullivan, I mean, who was the point man on trying to persuade all of us that Trump's

server in his tower was communicating with Russians by pinging the Alpha Bank, he was rewarded by national security.

And what did he say a week before?

The Middle East is the quietest I've ever seen it.

There's no problem.

And we had Blinken who cooked up the 51

intelligence, and he got rewarded.

And what did he say?

Well, I've been meeting with the Turkish ambassador, and I think it's time to have a ceasefire.

It's December 8th, Jack, and Pearl Harbor has been hit.

And FDR

sends over Henry Stimson, and Stimson says, well, you know,

responding to the Japanese Imperial Empire would just perpetuate this cycle of violence.

We're a rules-based order.

So we're going to talk with our Japanese envoy and get to the bottom of this.

And whether it was deliberate or it was a rogue element of the Japanese government, we're going to have a lot of sober and judicious discussions.

But we're not going to in very Neanderthal fashion reply to this because it just perpetuates a cycle of violence.

We know violence has never saw anything, and we're not going to participate in.

That's what these people would have done on December 8th.

Well, Victor, we have a lot more of your thoughts to get out there about these people.

These people would be the likes of Obama, Valerie Jarrett, Lincoln, Valley, Ben Rhodes, et cetera.

And we'll get to all that.

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yeah, Victor, we had talked, we've talked in the past.

I have an obsession, you naming names, blaming people.

Who deserves the blame for this madness?

As of October 14th, which is the date we're recording, few people we need to get your views on about what's their culpability for what's happened in Israel and with Gaza.

So, Victor, the names we've looked at here, and you can pick which ones you want to start with.

We have Barack Obama, Joe Biden, Ben Rhodes, Valerie Jarrett.

Okay, let's go.

We'll just go in order.

You name a name, and I'll see you.

And I don't know, I haven't prepared, so you just name any order.

Okay.

Play a little game.

I'm going to take, I'm going to make a twofer here.

I'm going to pick Obama and Valerie Jarrett.

The reason is

she

has been considered his

eminence,

however you feminize that, Greece,

and Iranian-born, even though I think of American parents, but considers herself Iranian.

And I was reading something, Victor.

She was a graduate of Stanford

and really thinks of herself.

as Iranian.

And Obama's Iranian policy, I have funny feelings.

She's got her fingerprints over it.

And Obama's Iranian policy is dead center to all this madness.

So let's talk about, get your thoughts on Obama and Valerie Jarrett.

Well,

Valerie Jarrett, as you say, grew up in Iran.

Her parents were American.

I think her father was African-American.

Her mother, or maybe it was opposite, was not.

And

she grew up, I think, speaking Farsi.

And I remember she gave

some kind of talk that she spoke French and she was involved in the housing authority and her critics called her a slum lord.

But that's not important.

The point is that she had a deep,

even though she was born under the Shah, and by the way, if she had been born under the Khomeini regime and grew up there, I think she'd have a little different view.

Maybe not.

But the point I'm making is that she was deeply committed to normalizing.

And that came through when Obama was campaigning in 2008 and attacking George Bush for isolating Iran.

So, as soon as those two came in, their idea, as I've said before, was to reach out to Iran.

And they were getting very angry at Israel.

And they felt that Israel was not making concessions to the Palestinians.

And they did not know how to pressure them because deep down inside, the Saudis, the Kuwaitis, the Jordanians, and the Egyptians said, hmm,

we'll tell you what, you Israelis,

if you're tough on the Palestinians, three things are good.

One, we're going to trash you in the Arab press, and that gives us street cred.

Two, you're going to suffer casualties.

And three, and most important, you're going to get rid of these SOBs that we hate more than you do because they're always trying to attack us and call us names and they commit terror.

So that's what we're doing.

So Obama and Jarrett looked at that and said, there's no pressure on the Israelis from the Arab world.

And then Obama said, well, maybe we can get

the

Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt.

Remember Morsi, the USC radical Islamicist?

We'll push him.

And he did.

And then there was a coup and then, oh, shoot, they threw him out.

They threw our commi, Marxist, Islamicists out.

Now we got another dictator, pro-American.

What the hell is going on?

We look at Jordan, we got a pro-American monarchy, the Saudi.

Well, you know, well, we got Iran.

Valerie said, we got Iran, and we can promote them.

We can't promote them until after

all the elections.

You got to get re-elected.

Remember Vladimir, you made the deal.

That worked pretty well.

You said you'd take down missile defense.

If Vladimir behaved, he did.

That was your last election, you said.

Then you took down missile defense, and then he didn't invade Ukraine and Crimea,

Donbass, and Ukraine until 2014.

So let's make a deal with Iran that way, but we can't do it until all the elections are over.

Ah, how about two,

I don't know, 216, 217, 2016?

Yes!

And we will do something that is very unpopular, but we won't make it a treaty.

It's a treaty, but we'll never get through those crazy nuts in the Senate.

They're too pro-American, so we'll just do it by fiat.

And that's what they cooked up.

It was a mechanism to press Israel and to press the Saudis with a threat of an empowered and even close friend of the United States, theocratic Iran.

And with that baggage came exemptions for Syria, for Hezbollah, for Hamas.

And even though Hamas was not a Shia group, it was pro-Iranian.

And that's what they gave us.

And then to sell sell it, it was very hard to sell it because they needed a couple of rhinos, you know.

And so Ben Rhodes, the deputy national security author, remember he gave the famous interview?

How'd you do it?

And he said, well, we created an echo chamber.

We created an echo chamber.

And these kids know nothing.

They're nothing.

He had absolutely contempt for these left-wing little kids out of Harvard and Yale.

So all he did was he gave a bunch of talking points and he leaked it to these individual people.

I'll call up this guy from the New York Times.

I'll say, I'm going to give you an exclusive.

Guess what?

This is what the Iran deal,

I'll call up the Washington Post.

My assistant will give him an exclusive.

And pretty soon we'll make a center of gravity.

And they'll all get together over at a bar and they'll say,

I have it from a sort.

I do too.

Wow, this is great.

And then he laughed and said, I created an echo chamber.

And then they came back to me and said, why aren't you doing this?

And I said, well, maybe we can do that.

And that's what he did.

And he bragged about it.

So he was responsible for it.

And so it was dreamed up by Obama and Valerie Jarrett, a few others.

And it was implemented by Lyne by Ben Rhodes.

And there was a bunch of rhinos who went along with it.

And they did because they were terrified of Iran and confronting it, or they didn't want Israel to do it.

And they said, basically, the whole premise was: we're going to get a lot of goodwill from Iran.

They may not take hostages and embarrass it, and they won't get a bomb until we're out of office.

We don't care about the United States, we just don't want to get a bomb on our watch.

So, that was

what those three did.

When Iran seemed to be on the brink of some revolution and

Obama did 2009, the Green Revolution, yes, Obama,

for 15 days, he didn't say a word.

He wanted it to fail.

There was a million people in the streets of Tehran.

All they wanted from an American was saying, we stand with you.

You believe in constitutional government and freedom.

And we stand with you.

And we can sanction.

If you want us to sanction your theocratic government, we will stand.

And he didn't say anything because during the campaign, his whole talking point against in the primaries, Hillary, and then the final, John McCain was, I have the ability as Barack Hussein Obama, my fake name, basically, because he was Barry Sortero for a long time of his early years.

But

David Axelrod and he said that, that I have a particular currency with the Muslim world.

And I will put it to the advantage of these stupid, deplorables and clingers.

And they don't know what's good for them but they have a president now they can talk to the iranians and get a détente that's what they did

well let's uh get your thoughts on anthony blinken which you talked about a little earlier but anything true well anthony blinken as i said before got the job because he we were talking about leon panetta and the other podcast he was the one that

allegedly, because Mike Morrell says he's a liar and he says Mike Morrell is essentially a liar, But he called up the interim former, former interim CIA director and said, we need some help.

Joe's floundering.

He's even in the polls.

Trump may pound him in the next election, the next debate.

We've got this election.

Can you get a bunch of

basically good guys that lie, get Brennan, get Clapper, get the Hayden, get the whole bunch, and lie, Panetta will help.

Get them all in there to lie and say that Hunter's laptop that he says is authentic is not authentic.

Nobody can find out.

The FBI won't, we've told, you know, we made sure they won't release it so it won't have any public forensic analysis.

They already knew it was authentic, by the way.

And that's what he did.

And then he was made Secretary of State.

And all these guys worked, remember that, in the Obama administration.

So they were conduits to Barack Obama.

Ben Rhodes, that whole group.

They're still talking to them every day.

And his idea was, hey, Barack, you know, hey, Barack, we're going to get that Iran deal.

So as soon as we get in power, we're going to go right back.

And

Barack says, wow, they're really hurting that nutty Trump.

He took out Solemani.

He's threatened them on the high seas.

He's got sanctions.

They've lost $50 billion.

So they'll be eager for us to let all that go and go back to the old pro-omei.

And that's what they tried to do.

And they almost did it.

But in the meantime, by

easing sanctions, they gave and giving,

it was before they gave the $6 billion, or they haven't quite given it, they gave over a billion dollars and other relief.

And that actually, Victor, if I may, I heard Larry Kudlow give a talk the other day, and I think it's a staggering amount more

in the permission of

Iran to sell oil, for example.

Yes, well, if you do that, it's 30 billion.

Yeah.

And remember, we was at $400 million in their favorite currencies that we airlifted on a pallet.

Pallets, yeah.

Yeah, at night.

And so it was so good, Barack and Blinken and Sullivan.

It was so transparent that you had to give them the money at night so nobody would see it.

And so that's what they did.

And then Blinken comes in and he gets to Anchorage with the Chinese and he's going to be with Sullivan.

They think, well, you know, the Chinese were so,

you know, they didn't like us because of Trump's crudity in fact they were scared of trump because he staged his trump psychodramas in front of chi remember when they were eating and he said i just bombed isis

so trump knew how to handle them whether you liked his methodology or not but they said we're not trump and when we tell the chinese we're not trump they will reward that kindness with similar recipes recipicity.

So they went to Anchorage and the Chinese just said, you're racist.

You're awful.

We hate your guts.

That's it.

shame on you.

And they just sat there.

And

the next thing we knew, there's a Chinese balloon two years later.

And, oh, it was going to crash in Alaska anyway.

Oh, it was in Wyoming.

We couldn't shoot it down with all those people in Wyoming.

It might have killed somebody.

Oh, we didn't do anything because it didn't have any ability to spy.

And that was off to the races.

And pretty soon, China was threatening to invade Taiwan.

And so when this crisis came around, Blinken was Blinken.

And his first propensity is always to be terrified of our enemies and pressure our friends.

So he met with the Turkish foreign minister, and they cooked up almost immediately when they saw all the pictures of the dead Jews.

The Turkish minister said, hmm.

Those crazy Israelis are going to hit hard and they're going to hit Muslims.

And secretly, those guys, I'm happy they killed all those civilians.

I can't say that, but I can tell this naif who masquerades as Secretary of State that we'll have a joint communique, and he can brag because they love me.

Barack Obama, his former boss, said that Turkey was their conduit to the Middle East.

The Ottomanist Islamicist Erdo Yan, who took Santa Sofia,

the UN

memorial site, and turned it into a mosque, as it had been earlier before the Attiturk secularists.

So, my point is,

he released a co-author and said that it's time for a ceasefire.

Time for a ceasefire.

You know, isn't that funny?

Not with Hamas.

He didn't, when they started hearing that there were 1,500 killers all over southern Israel, and it was going to take Saturday, Sunday, Monday to round them up.

He didn't say on Saturday night, we call on Hamas to have a ceasefire.

No, he waited till it was all over.

And then, you know, as I wrote in a column, a Lincoln S

second inaugural, the wrath of the Lord is about to fall, basically.

And that's what he didn't want.

And then he had to retract it.

So I didn't retract it.

You didn't retract it.

Our listeners didn't retract it.

He retracted it.

Why did he retract it?

Because he knew that it was embarrassingly stupid.

And he should have known that of all of our enemies in the Middle East, the most insidious,

the most

formidable is not Iran, it's Turkey, because Turkey is a member of NATO.

Because at the Insular Air Force Base, we have atomic weapons there,

nuclear weapon, and it's very dicey about

our possession of them.

I think in a time of crisis, they surround

the base.

They almost did during the coup.

And they are a friend of Russia, and they have arms sales agreements and exchanges with Russia.

And we had to stop the F-35 component assembly with Turkey because they were basically allowing the Russian anti-aircraft systems to have an inside advantage how to defeat the F-35.

And they oppose my ancestors.

Not that that matters.

The Swedes getting it.

Sweden was a win-win.

They've got a huge arms industry.

They've got great fighters.

They're right on the border with Russia.

And they've gone from neutral to pro, pro.

And

they're getting angry at their own immigration.

So he opposed that.

We had to.

And, you know, Turkey's got the largest army except for us, and it shouldn't be a NATO.

And everybody knows it shouldn't be a NATO, but it's like it's more trouble to get them out than it's worth.

And he knows that.

So he, so why would you meet with him?

He's pro-Hamas.

He's got Hamas people in Turkey.

And then the second person was Gutter.

Ghudder.

Ghudder has the architects of Hamas living in Ghatr.

They allow their money to be transferred from Iran and other revolutionary regimes to Hamas via their financial institution.

And we have a U.S.

CINTCOM base there.

So if you put a base in a Muslim country that's anti-democratic, and that's what I think Turkey is, its elections are sham.

And they control the country, why would you want your base there?

And I know a lot of people in the military said victor you're an idiot these have been there for years we're well aware of the tension tensions we're well aware of our mechanisms to deal with the tensions and these bases are represent multi-billion dollar investments they give us leverage on those countries no they don't and it what about afghanistan what about that base yeah yeah

yeah you gave up a much better base called bagram that had a 300 million dollar refit and you walked away from it and then you concentrate in those two countries and believe me if there's a middle east-wide war do you think that the turkish or gutter government is going to let you take off no

didn't turkey wasn't gosh i forget victor didn't they preclude us from airspace or or something uh well what happened when they had that military coup a few years ago And there were some tense moments where they surrounded our Air Force base.

And he had said some very strange things early on.

He's told the Americans not to remove those nuclear weapons.

And he had said, reportedly, that he felt that they had a proprietary right to them.

And that should have.

And I hope right now they're taking them out.

I wrote a column about it about four or five years ago.

I hope they're taking those.

You know, I hope every month they take one out.

Maybe they've got them out by now, but to leave them there is crazy because one day the Turkish army is going to swoop in there and take them.

And they only need one.

And so my point is that

they are culpable.

And Blinken,

he should have never met with a Turkish foreign minister.

Yeah.

And so you look at, and then we get to who Mali, is he next on your list?

Well,

he is.

You've talked about him at some length on that other

great podcast you did with Sammy about what happened in the war.

But yeah, give us a little pre-C on this criminal, actually, right?

You know, borderline criminal, not convicted yet, but go ahead.

Well, Robert Malley was a hardcore pro-Iranian, pro-Hamas journalist who became a diplomat.

And under Obama, he was their ISIS expert.

Remember ISIS expert when ISIS took over half of Iraq?

And that caused Donald Trump to bomb them into the Stone Age and get rid of them later.

And then he was our Hamas expert.

I remember when he was

being mentioned and he was, you know,

he said things like it was a big mistake

to think of Hamas in terms of terrorism only.

That, you know, that's like saying it's a big mistake to think of the Nazi Party in Germany only as killers, you know, because, and I think he said they have social and political movements and

they're widely rooted.

Yeah, just everything he says about Hamas

could be said about the Nazis.

You know, it's a big mistake to look at the Nazi Party in 1930s as solely a political movement.

They're widely cultural, they're widely social, i.e., they go into the university and they took it over.

They go into foundations, they took it over.

And, you know, there's a lot of misinformation about them.

And that's what people said.

You know, you don't really know that the Nazis are environmentalists.

They make hiking trails.

And so he said that.

And he also said, you know,

once in a while we disagree.

You can talk to them.

And they're rational.

They're not crazy.

Yes, I agree with that, Mr.

Malley.

They are rational.

When they wanted to go kill 1,200 Jews, they just didn't crazily say Allah Akbar, hop the fence and run around like crazy people.

You know,

once upon a time in Hollywood's final scene with the Manson family.

No, no, they were rational.

They planned it for a whole year.

They had blueprints of every kibbutz.

They had a mock-up of how to do it.

They were rational killers.

You're right about that.

And he said,

you know, it has a charity.

I think he said, Jack, they have a charity organization.

Yes, so did the Nazis.

They had all sorts of charity organizations.

They were killing people with multiple sclerosis at Dachau, but they had a charity organization.

And, you know, he said that you can't defeat them.

Everybody's got to understand that.

You cannot defeat them.

What are you going to do?

Go into Gaza City?

Well,

the Romans went into Carthage.

And if you read Polybius and Appian,

it wasn't pretty.

But once they broke through the city, and unlike Gaza, Carthage had the second largest, at that time, it had the largest fortifications in the world.

And Scipio Aemilianus, they did break through it, and they went house to house.

and they destroyed Carthage.

And we did go into Fallujah.

And as I said, I visited Fallujah.

And the U.S.

Marine Corps did rid Fallujah of ISIS.

It might have not been pretty, and George Bush might have put it off until after the election.

But I came, you know, later.

I wasn't saying I was there when it happened, but I saw the houses and the infrastructure, and you could see the nature of the damage, how they did it.

So there are methodologies that they can do it.

When he says that Hamas cannot

be defeated militarily, that's like saying,

oh my God, it's 1941.

And they attacked and they took out seven of our battleships.

And we only have three carriers.

And they took the Philippines and they've got Singapore.

They've got the Dutch East Indies.

They've got the breadbasket and the Mekong.

You can't fight these people.

They're in China.

We've got an army the size of Portugal.

They can't be defeated militarily.

No, they can be defeated military if you want them to.

If you want to spend the money and the investment.

Victor, we have one more infamous person of culpability to discuss, and that's Joe Biden.

And when we get your thoughts on him,

I would like to layer into this some of the facts that have come out about the $6 billion

deal his administration has made with Iran.

We'll get your thoughts right after this final important message.

We're back with the Victor Davis-Hansen show.

So, Victor, I was reading a piece today by Andy McCarthy at National Review.

And Andy, it's titled Biden's Iran Deal is Even Worse Than It Looked.

And the particulars of the deal: here's $6 billion

as a

ransom for

it's either five or six Iranians.

Two or three of them had to go back to Iran, sent back.

Three of them, and their names are

Khashog,

Hassan Zadeh, and Afra Siyabi

have all been granted, they get to stay.

So these are three people who are

committing acts of espionage and just pure evil against America.

They are allowed to stay in America.

And as part of the deal, they've gotten

clemency.

Joe Biden has given them

executive clemency.

This is,

we can't curse on this.

Well,

I mean, Robert Malley was

in the association.

Biden appointed Robert Malley, and Robert Malley is under FBI investigation for deliberately leaking classified information, I guess, purportedly to our enemies.

But more importantly,

as you saw in that semaphore article, there was a ring ring of both Iranian nationals and Iranian Americans that were mouthpieces and taking their PR orders from Tehran.

And he was working with them and ensured they had influential positions in the State Department.

And,

you know, the $6 billion, I never quite understood it.

It was South Korean money that was frozen,

I guess, for oil sales.

And it's been sitting there, and it was forfeited.

And

it was a violation of the sanctions.

And so the U.S.

said to South Korea,

you're not going to give it to Iran.

And they said, okay, I guess they liked it.

Maybe they owed it and they got oil.

I don't know the particulars.

But

then

Biden wanted to do what he always wants to do.

He always wants some ceremonial event to highlight himself at the expense of us.

So if it's the 9-11, 20th anniversary, we get out of Afghanistan in time so we can take credit for that celebration.

If it's hostages, he wants to get hostages back by paying basically billions of dollars for them.

And he gets this money and he's going to transfer it.

And then the whole thing blows up because of the war.

And does he stop?

No.

No, he's pressured.

And then

public opinion starts to turn,

and a few Democratic senators and representatives actually, for the first time that I've seen in his administration, start to question him.

They don't do it on the border.

They don't do anything else, but they're starting to question him.

And now

they may freeze it.

And you say there's these other side agreements.

We all know that

We all know that the people who are running the government, the Obamas, and their kindred, have a special affinity for Iranians that work for this regime.

Remember how the left looks at Tehran?

If it is westernized and corrupt under the Shah and the standard of living goes way up and women get the vote and there's some modern, then that is a sell-out colonialist neo-imperialist project.

If it's corrupt and it's theocratic, then it's indigenous and it's genuine and authentic, with one major exception.

If If the dictator goes Western

and he's pro-free market, private property, prosperity, he's no good.

But if he goes Western and he's LGBTQ

and Pride and George Floyd, he's okay.

And so

that's where this is all coming.

And I think finally

people got so angry because

If $100 million gives you these rockets,

I guess they're a million bucks a piece out of something like that, and they're very accurate and they can destroy the ability of Irondome to shoot them down by their sheer numbers.

And you're going to give $6 billion, and then you look at the straight face like Blinken did and Biden did, and say there's no connection between weapons that have been attacking Israel and the $6 billion for two reasons, Jack, because it hasn't gotten there, and because the Iranians say, we promise it'll only go for hospitals and medical care.

Okay.

So Jack's going to give me a million dollars in two weeks.

And I'm broke right now.

And I've been giving a bunch of money to my cousin, just to take an example.

But if I know I'm going to get a million dollars from Jack, I'm going to give my cousin a lot more money.

Even though maybe he's a felon in jail, I'll give him more and more money because that's going to be replenished.

That's the attitude.

And then if I say to Jack, well, yes, you're going to give me a million dollars and I promise it will not go to my cousin to get him out of prison.

It will only go to

my health care plan and my chemo treatment.

And Jack says, okay.

And then nobody, how do you know?

How do you know?

And Mr.

Blinken then, it was almost, he gave an, did you notice that he gave an argument against himself?

He said that you can't tell with Iranians how it's used

but you should give it to them because they say this is going to be how it's used yeah cross your fingers and give them the dough yeah so basically

long and the short of it joe biden wants to give six billion dollars of south korean money

to

iran so they can send through damascus airport thousands more rockets so they can replenish their stocks and they can overpower Iron Dome, and the result will be more dead Israelis.

That's just the fact.

This guy is president because he was vice president, and he's vice president because he allegedly added foreign policy gravitas or something like that to

junior freshman Senator Obama.

You think that you look back

from the catastrophes around the world, and this was

engineered by a man.

And I don't get into the non-compassmentus, Victor, because I think if he was totally compassmentus, he'd be just a good idea.

He's much better.

He's much better.

I mean, as far as his own culpability,

the fact that he doesn't know that he's Joe Biden is much better because he doesn't do as much damage.

The damage is being done by his puppeteers.

But a cognizant Joe Biden, this was a guy who praised Strong Thurman and James O.

Eastland.

He used the boy.

He's used the word boy for African Americans three times now during his tenure.

He said they made a racial jungle.

He said, put you all back in change.

And you are a junkie.

And you ain't, but I mean, the guy, and Barack Obama is the first black person that can basically talk.

He's an out-and-out racist.

He's got all sorts of problems that we don't even talk about.

He's got the terror read that, according to Kamala Harris, she should be believed about her allegations of sexual assault.

He's got this, he's got the Biden.

I don't want to say, I want to be, this is funny, but it's not funny at these times, the Biden gene for exhibition.

And I don't know what's wrong with that family,

but.

Why don't you give a quick little precious?

Well, I was thinking, yeah, I mean, people have noticed, but you got Hunter,

who's a crackhead, and he's with prostitutes.

Isn't that enough, Hunter?

Why do you have to take pictures of yourself in full nudity?

Again and again and again, we don't want to see you.

I know he didn't think we were going to see him because the laptop was lost, but why would anybody do that?

Okay, and then we got Joe Biden.

And we've got a lost diary that says he likes to be showering, I guess, nude with his daughter at an age that was not appropriate.

Myself,

and I think every listener out there says it's not appropriate for a male male to take a shower with a female child at all once they can walk.

You know what I'm saying?

I can't even imagine it.

But the idea that you would do that at puberty is actionable.

By the way,

also likes to skinny dip in front of CPU.

So

he had a bad reputation, and he was the most unpopular

president, vice president, but vice president, because he had a tendency, being Joe, thinks he's in good shape, the guy who slams people's heads on the counter, who threatens to take Trump behind the gym, who took on corn pop with a measured piece of chain.

He's a tough guy who works out.

So he likes to swim, and then he likes to jump out naked in front of female Secret Service agents.

And they didn't like that.

I mean, they didn't like his dog biting them 12 times either, but he didn't care.

And then we got the latest Biden.

So these are three or four incidents.

And then we got Freddie Biden, who's in his 60s.

And

he takes a full frontal picture of himself naked, and it ends up on a gay porno.

And he says he's hacked.

But it didn't make sense because, A, how many people listening have taken a full frontal picture of themselves?

I can't even imagine a person would do.

I have never done it.

I would never even consider doing it.

But if you were stupid or narcissistic or sick enough to do it and you put it on your phone,

you think somebody's going to call you and take it?

And how would it, if they did, why would it end up on a gay thing?

And so the point is that it's just one too many of these exhibitionist

stuff to not say that this family is deeply, deeply troubled.

And you add, superimpose on that paradigm that they all have been involved in the Biden shakedown.

And this is a disreputable family.

And it should be nowhere near power, none.

And,

you know,

they all presented themselves as the antithesis to Trump.

Trump the philanderer, Trump, the wheeler-dealer, Trump, the exaggerator, Trump, yes,

some of those allegations were accurate.

But look what Trump did compared to Biden.

When Trump left office, we were not

pulling out of Afghanistan a mess.

Russia was not invading Ukraine.

China was not talking about taking Taiwan.

8 million people were not coming in.

And there was no way in hell that Iran and Hamas were going to attack Israel.

No way.

No way, no how.

So, and,

you know, it was very funny because I remember there was a story.

Do you remember this about Trump that he had once said to someone, if I was young, I would date somebody that looked like a Bonco,

his daughter.

And they went nuts.

Do you remember that?

They said, That is incestuous.

That's sick.

That's horrible.

Well, how about

taking a shower with your daughter at puberty?

No one said anything.

So the whole media thing was

just if you applied the standards that they applied to Donald Trump and you applied them to Joe Biden, he would be by their standards impeached 20 times for stuff he's done.

And

I just don't understand how they package this guy as good old Joe Biden from Scranton, the working-class Catholic kid who's bipartisan and he

smiles and he's honest and sober.

No, he's always been a crook.

And he's a grifter and he's a pathological liar.

He always lies.

Whether he's cognizant or not, it doesn't matter.

And he's got some kind of fetish about nudity and blowing in young people's hair.

If Donald Trump or George W.

Bush in a line of reception at a tarmac overseas had taken a small girl and done whatever that little nibble turkey gobble trick was on that poor girl's neck,

they would have been dumb.

Yeah.

They would have been dumb.

And yet he does that repeatedly and nobody says a word.

Oh, president.

Yeah,

I blowing in girls' hair.

And they don't look, you look at their facial expressions and they think, wow,

this is a creepy old guy.

The fact is he president, does he get to do that to me?

And that's what's sick about it.

He uses his office as a bully.

And he's never subject to any type of reprimand.

And, you know, it's just, it's just bizarre.

It's just the utter bankruptcy that the left

foisted upon us through this weird election where all of a sudden, instead of 30 people voting, absentee 70 did with almost no authenticity of the ballots in the way that we had been accustomed in the past.

And then we had all these creepy people like Mark Zuckerberg secretly putting $419 million

to absorb the work, all of this stuff to get this guy, and then to lie and say that he was robust.

And

I read these things from these columnists, he's robust.

I don't say that about Donald Trump, that he's robust.

I say he's 76 years old.

He's in pretty good shape.

He plays golf.

But anybody who's 76, and I don't believe that Donald Trump weighs 215 pounds, do you, Jack?

No,

no,

I weighed 215 pounds at one time.

And I used to be six, one and a a half at 215, and I was heavy.

I had a gut.

Yeah.

And only long COVID has saved me.

And

my point is, it wasn't discipline on my part or diet, but I weighed 215.

And I,

so I know that Donald Trump is too heavy.

I know he's 76.

I know there probably will be health issues.

But to say that Joe Biden, who can hardly walk, is vibrant and he can be a very successful president.

And then everything that everybody warned them about has happened.

You see him shepherded around by the Japanese

president or the president of Mexico up the stairs.

Oh, he tripped up King Charles.

Trip up the stairs the other day.

He did.

He's one fall away from oblivion.

It's going to happen.

I don't want it to happen.

It's going to happen.

Because you can't fall that many times and then expect as president to have to perform some ceremonial role, a role with stairs.

It's going to happen.

Yeah.

And then we're going to have Camilla Harris.

Oh my gosh.

Plan B.

Hey, anybody.

She's going to give us a lecture on Venn diagram.

Oh, and Canadians.

I just love Venn diagrams.

You know, this round circle on this round circle.

School buses.

Gosh,

school buses.

Electric school buses.

Yeah.

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