The Origins of War in Gaza

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Victor, I guess the first thing I'd like to get your take on

is a week

nine days, eight days out from the terrible, horrific attack by Hamas on innocent Israeli citizens, Joe Biden's response, his actions,

his

absences, his speech.

What's your general take in the last eight days, nine days of how Joe Biden, as leader of the free world, has performed in the face of this

terrible event?

Well, he's a construct.

I mean, there is no Joe Biden, the president.

It's an 80-year-old man who's suffering from cognitive erosion and physical incapacity.

And he has the Obama people running that came from the Obama administration that run our Mideast policy.

They're the ones that want to continue the Iran deal.

They're the ones that have this bankrupt idea of a Shia crescent, you know, Iran, Lebanon, Syria, Hezbollah, Hamas, all giving creative tension against the Gulf monarchies in Israel with the United States, the adjudicator, this bank, crazy idea.

They're the ones that gave the $700 million back to the Palestinians.

They're the ones that were warned not to do it by their own State Department because it would go into the hands of Gaza.

So that's who's running it.

And every once in a while, Joe, you know, he's...

I mean, you remember George Bush on 9-11 and the aftermath?

He was on two or three times a day, and he went to ground zero.

He put his arms around, that was his finest moment, to tell you the truth.

And he put his arms around that fireman, said, the whole world's going to hear from you, from us.

Do you think he did that?

No.

No, he's he's just he's just a construct.

And so what does that mean in actual terms of policy?

It means one of two things.

One, when he is not in control, then Anthony Blinken

meets with the Turkish foreign minister and says, we can't have this cycle of violence.

We have to have a ceasefire the moment Israel is ready to hit Gaza.

Or it means the U.S.

Affairs, Palestinian Affairs Office and the

State Department issues, let's stop the cycle of violence.

By the way, you know, no one would ever say to Ukraine, you know, Mr.

Zelensky, this is just tit for tat, 600,000, 800,000.

Let's stop the cycle of violence.

They would never do that.

So this is what they do.

And of course,

then

somebody

around Biden, who is not an Obamaite, a Liz Warrenite, a Bernie Sanders, said, this is really going to hurt my congressional district.

I'm going to lose this Senate seat.

This is crazy.

And then they pump him up with oxygen or Adderall, whatever they do.

And then he comes out and said, I'm horrified.

This is not going to stand.

And

Israel has to get very excited and they thank

Biden, and then he goes back to bed.

And then this other group takes over.

Yang, yang, tit-for-tat,

warp and woof.

That's how it works.

And it's just, that's why we have the Afghanistan mess.

That's why we have the Ukraine war.

That's why we have the Israeli war, the Hamas war.

That's why we have the China threats to Taiwan.

That's why we have an invasion on our southern border.

It's total chaos because the people who want to be in charge are in charge about 80% of the time.

And they screwed up under Obama.

This is their second chance.

They can do stuff.

And if it goes bad, they blame Biden.

If it goes good, they leak to the press that Joe Biden loses his temper.

He bumped into a wall the other day.

An unidentified source at the White House said that he got lost in the West Wing.

So that's what they do.

And Joe Biden has no clue of what's going on.

But I will say this:

that after saying that his support for Israel

is sustainable, that it's unquestionable, we're now in maybe day one of the land invasion, and it's going to be

Fallujah on steroids.

I saw Fallujah after the Marines went in when I was in bed over there, and my God.

It was 2006, and I didn't go in 2007 there.

I went to other places, but

I'll tell you that 2007, I should say, I did.

But

everybody says it's impossible to root out people in a home.

They did it.

The Marines did.

And they just cut off the city like the Israelis are going to do, and then they checked everybody going out.

But then they had suicide bombing prevention.

And then they just went house by house.

Each one had a hole the size of.

car could drive through it from a javelin round.

They just blew the stairways out and the side of the wall and trapped those guys upstairs and let them stew for a while.

Then they took them out and they had complete air cup.

This is before the age of drones, et cetera.

So it's doable.

But my point is this, is that when they do it, I don't think Joe Biden will stand with them.

He's not up to the task.

He's going to say, this is disproportionate.

We've got to end the cycle of violence.

We're part of the rules-based order.

Come on now.

His history with Israel does not

belies his comment.

I've always been a tough, good friend.

I mean, he's flipped the bird at Netanyahu for the last three years, just like Obama did, right?

Yeah, I mean, he's never, he has never had Netanyahu to the White House.

He's met with him at the UN, I suppose, when Netanyahu came over.

or he sent people over to Israel, but he's never had him.

He will never have him over.

And they were behind.

They they fueled, they gave support to that whole civil unrest.

Which brings up just for a second what happened.

And, you know, everybody says, well, Mossad failed or military intelligence failed or Netanyahu failed.

I don't think it was that.

I really don't.

The last two times I've been to Israel, and I always think of this, I project back the first time I was there over 20 years ago.

It's not even the same country, Jack.

It looks like San Francisco in its heyday in the 1950s.

You go to Haifa, it's just beautiful.

And people are out at night eating.

You couldn't do that in San Francisco or Washington, D.C.

or Baltimore or Portland or downtown Seattle or downtown L.A.

There's no homeless and everything works.

And it's clean.

And the ports are all sophisticated.

They've got desalinization plants.

But by the the way, they give the water to a lot of the Palestinians on the other side of the green line.

So, my point is this: it's never been more prosperous.

It's never been more secure.

It's never been more confident.

It's never been more self-assured, as it should be.

And at that point, I think a lot of Israelis thought: you know what?

We've kind of grown so wealthy and powerful.

We've got oil, we've got natural gas, we've got water.

The Iran deal has kind of failed, and even Biden's efforts to re-inflate it haven't worked.

They're even going to get Robert Mallee, that pro-Hamas, pro-Iranian,

of dubious character, out of the picture.

We've talked with the Saudis.

It looks like they want to revive the Abraham Accords, which Biden trashed.

And, you know, we're letting in 20,000 Gazans.

And when they come in, they make a good wage 10 times higher, maybe $10,000, $15 an hour.

They support another, I don't know, 100,000, 150,000 people in Gaza.

Gaza, we know the charter.

We know the 1988 Gaza Charter that says that they want to destroy us, kill us, everything.

And we know they've said they don't want to become a Singapore.

They've said that explicitly, that they don't want to become a Singapore.

Their mission, unlike the Palestinian Authority, which, by the way, I think is the same, basically, but at least the Palestinian National Assembly or whatever, doesn't claim that it wants to destroy Israel.

It wants to have a separate state and take land from Israel.

But Hamas never even had that pretension.

They never said they wanted to make a successful society.

But nevertheless, Israel thought it would.

And then into that matrix, there were the Europeans, there were the UN, there were the United States, and they were all telling Israel what to do.

And then Israel, like a Western country, said, well, you know, we're at the end of history.

So, if we have a dispute over the judicial thing, we're going to do, you know, Netanyahu will be our Trump, and the dissidents will be the American left.

And we'll have a lot of social-creative tension, and it'll be good.

And they had almost a million people out in the streets.

There were IDF reservists that refused to go and fight, I guess, for the Netanyahu army rather than the IDF.

So, what my point is that Israel began to act

and assume that it was a typically prosperous Western society.

And it is.

In fact, I would go further.

It was better than a Western society.

And that created a sense of collective complacence.

And so I think what happened is they thought, well, when the Gazans come over here and they see how successful,

you know, you go over the Gaza Strip, it looks like North Korea, South Korea compared to Israel.

One side is the Salinas Valley, and one side is, you know,

Detroit, 1960.

And so, and I shouldn't say that 1975, Detroit.

Right.

Yeah.

Maybe now.

But my point is,

they were so successful, they thought, wow, these people are going to come over.

They're going to make a lot of money.

They're going to see how we do things.

And it's going to insidiously

cause schisms in the Palestinian, Hamas,

Palestinian National Authority

paradigm.

And when

they see that the geostrategic

system is not very favorable to them,

there's not going to be an Iran deal.

There's not going to be, there's going to be a détente between the Arabs and Israel.

They just, they didn't, I don't think it was in their intention or they didn't quite understand that the more the Hamas people came over

or saw or experienced the Israeli success, the more they said, this came at our expense.

They can do stuff that we can't do.

Why do they have a successful society and we don't?

And if you were to say to them, because you take all the hundreds of billions of dollars from the Gulf and from the UN, from the Europeans and from the Americans and from deluded Westerners, and you build those tunnels that look like, you know,

the BART system or or the Washington Metro.

The reinforced con,

think of all the cement, reinforced concrete, conduit to build that labyrinth.

That's what they spent it for, just for these Hamas cadre to live as subterranean killers.

And if they hadn't done that and they had just invested, they could have made, as a lot of people kept saying, you know, they got the best beach in the world.

They could be Singapore.

They could be the Emirates.

They weren't going to ever do that, ever.

And they wanted to be the one Palestinian radical terrorist group that was premier, kill the most Jews, kill the most Jews barbarically, have no restrictions.

And then everybody said, at least they are true killers, and they are going to get back from Israel.

And I don't think anybody expected that.

And that was the breakdown.

And I think Israel, and I don't ever believe in giving them advice, but I think they're going to come to a point, and I think they're there now,

that when they show magnanimity to people

in Gaza or the Palestinians, they interpret that as weakness to be exploited and not as

kindness to be reciprocated.

They just don't.

They don't.

You know, there's Hesiod, as I've said before, had a famous thing in the works and days where there's two types of envy.

There's the good envy, the American envy.

You see a Cadillac, you go over to the owner, and I shouldn't say Cadillac, Tesla now, Mercedes, and you say,

how'd you do it?

How much did it cost?

How'd you finance it?

I got to get one like that.

And then there was the old British labor,

you go over to the Bentley and no one's looking.

You kick in the side of the car with your foot.

Well, that's the Palestinian envy.

It's not emulation.

It really isn't.

It's not competition.

It's not emulation.

The delusion that affects us,

George W.

Bush, everybody is yearning for freedom, right, and democracy, but they're not.

There were high officials in

the Bush administration that called a lot of people during the 2006 Sharon

turnover, and they had an election.

I talked to Fuadajal, the late Fuadijalmi, whom I really respected and liked, and was a Hoover fellow, but I knew him when I was teaching at the Naval Academy.

And I said,

this this is crazy.

And he said, it's going to be just like

everybody thought.

It's going to be one election, one time.

And these thugs are going to take over Gaza.

And you remember

this is a good example.

When the Israelis left, they left a sophisticated truck farming

environment.

They left all the, remember those greenhouses?

And I think an American Jewish philanthropist gave, I think he inserted 50 million.

50 million, right?

And a jumpstart so they could continue as they learn how to export tomatoes and cucumbers and everything to the winter vegetables to Europe, etc.

It didn't take them more than five days to destroy that because the Jews had fingerprints on it.

They didn't want it.

They took out the panels.

They just destroyed it.

I can still remember pictures of them tearing out an electrical conduit just to destroy it.

Victor, it happens also in South Africa and Rhodesia.

These great opportunities presented themselves,

but people are motivated by resentment.

It's a Western disease.

As the West gets prosperous and free and secure, there is an arrogance there.

They really do believe that their secular, agnostic,

enlightenment pathway to success that's given them so much will be a model for other people.

And what they don't understand is that other people,

whether it's in Mexico or whether it's in Latin America or Asia or Africa or the Middle East, they want the fruits of that materialism, right?

They do.

But they do not want what creates that materialism.

They do not want that.

They do not want that.

And when a person comes to the United States, they have a big choice.

They have to have enough character that says, I have...

accepted a different paradigm that leads to prosperity and security and freedom.

And And that by necessity means a rejection of my prior paradigm.

But this country allows me to bring my clothing, my art, my music, my food, as long as I understand the central principles of Americanism and Westernism.

And that takes a lot of character.

That's why legal, measured, merocratic, diverse immigration works.

And so I see it all the time.

I see it all the time here.

We bring people from Mexico.

We're trucking them in the San Joaquin Valley.

And I walk around my farm.

I drive down all the rural roads.

And what do I see?

I see every single day a new refrigerator, a new car.

I just saw a whole new two new cars, just car seats just thrown out in the orchard the other day.

And that's what they do in Mexico.

And you want to tell them if you come up here, you don't take your refrigerator when it goes out, drive out in the country, look both ways and throw it on the side of the road you don't go over to somebody's standpipe and try to write gang insignia and spray paint you don't do that and you don't do that and you don't trespass on people's property with an ar-15

so that's what is is very disturbing and that's not too bad that's a learning process but when you bring people from the middle east as we saw in New York or we see with the Stanford professor or the Harvard professor, and you bring them over here

and you don't assimilate them and you require nothing of them when they become wealthy and prosperous.

And worse yet, when you don't defend your culture, but

you transmit a sense of guilt or uncertainty or self-hatred or loathing, then that retards the assimilation integration process.

And the result is you get thousands of people in the street of New York who are basically saying the following.

I hated where I was in the Middle East.

It was a dictator violent society.

I had no opportunity.

I wanted to come to the United States.

I did come to the United States.

And I'm over here now.

And I'm a minority.

I see that now you 67% white people are guilt ridden and you're extending affirmative action to me.

And I'm going to take every

advantage as I can.

I'm a victim.

Now, that's about a week.

In about two weeks, I hate the United States.

In about three weeks, I hate the Jews.

And

it's incredible that you see people in the streets of New York, San Francisco, L.A., and they're rooting for a murderous, dictator, anti-democratic regime that they all fled from, whether it's in the West Bank or Gaza or Egypt or Syria, it doesn't matter.

And they come over here and what do they do?

They root for those regimes.

And it's got to stop.

And the only thing that stops it, the only thing that works, you say no.

So we're going to have

a moral question, Jack, because out of these 2 million Gazans are fleeing, there's going to be a half a million that are going to try to get into this country.

And they're going to be refugees.

And they're going to be poor.

And they're going to be demands to let them in because they're going to be leftist.

And they come in.

And we're going to see this again and again and again for the next 20 years.

The time it takes from one Gazan to leave Gaza as a refugee and come to the United States and become a professor professor of ethnic studies or decolonialization, lecturing a bunch of Jewish kids that they're apartheid killers is about, I think, about seven years.

And

stop that.

We've got to say, you know what, we can't handle all these people.

We're going to have legal, diverse, merocratic immigration.

You have to earn the right to be an American.

If you want to be an American, you get a diploma and you speak English and you come over legally.

And then we want you.

And you're going to assimilate and integrate and accept the American civics program.

And if you don't,

we don't need you.

We don't need them.

And so,

and the American left, the American left did this, and they called it, you know, demography is destiny.

And they said that's a new democratic majority.

And then when other people said, we know what you're doing, they said, oh, you're believing in the great replacement, you paranoid, white, swinking, unfertile, sterile minority, a majority, soon to be a minority.

So it's, it's, uh,

you know, well, Victor, let's, um, you're referring, by the way, a minute or two ago there to a college incident.

And I think you also mentioned a Stanford earlier.

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Stanford University, and we'd like to, I'll mention something at the end end of the show about immigration, but Stanford University headlines here in the Daily Mail.

Stanford lecturer suspended after, quote, ordering Jewish students to raise their hand and sit in the corner in public shaming over the oppression of Palestinians, end quote.

Victor, this is like, this is out of, this is so effing

illegal, I think.

Never mind, wrong.

It just sounds like it's almost criminal.

And this is happening at one of America's most prestigious colleges and the fact that a lecturer could think he could do that is is an indication of the state of our colleges your thoughts victor well you're a graduate of stanford

uh and i work on the campus the stanford's hoover institution i see it every day

And this man, Hassan Loggins, is in African-American studies, doesn't have a PhD.

He's teaching this stuff.

He was the mentor, as I understand it, of Colin Kaepernick, who schooled him from being, you know, a person who believed in integration and the success of racial relations in the United States, who was brought up by a white family, is adopted into somebody that hated,

I guess, white people and caused, basically tried to bankrupt the NFL and almost succeeded for a while.

He was his mentor.

And then, of course, that was a recommendation to hire him at Stanford.

And so

he reflected a lot of things.

He's got, you know, like Kendi, we have a lot of African-American scholars that change their names so they can have Islamic fides.

That is supposed to signify a rejection of southern Christian

indoctrination that is associated with slavery.

And why that is, I don't know, because I think most scholars believe that there were as many,

if not more, slaves taken from Africa to the Muslim world than there was in the New World, at least in North America.

So why would you think that adopting an Arab name or a Muslim name would somehow reflect your disgust for North America because of its slavery in the early years of its creation by adopting another

nomenclature that would

signify to a lot of people that

slaves were okay in the Islamic world.

And I think you could argue there's still slavery in parts of the Islamic world.

So anyway, that was his background.

So he takes these students and it's not just enough for him to rail and rail and rail and rail,

but he has to ask them to go over to the corner.

Now that's very weird because

he's the master of his class and he's saying that they have to go stand over there.

This is right out of the 1930s in Nazi Germany because they're Jews, not because what they think, not because of anything, but because he thinks he's asked them to identify.

I'm surprised he didn't say anybody in my class who's Jewish has to wear a yellow star, so I don't have to ask you everything.

You come in and you sit over in the corner and see how it feels.

That was his shtick.

And then he asked, apparently, how many people died in the Holocaust?

And they said 6 million.

And he said people under decolonization have lost more.

He gives no figures.

People can give a figure for the Holocaust.

There's seven or eight different methodologies that come to the same conclusion.

But when he says this many died of decolonism, it doesn't say where, how, anything.

And

he doesn't give you any statistics.

He just says it.

And this is part of the problem with Stanford University.

And

I heard a talk the other night by Barry Weiss from the New York Times Thursday night.

And she made the point that people have to get to the point where they decide how they are going to look at these schools, Harvard, Yale, Columbia, Stanford.

And everybody should listen very carefully.

I'm not trying to lecture you, but when they went to repertory admissions

and they decided that they were not going to reflect, which would have been bad enough, proportional representation.

That is, they were going to have quotas, but they don't use the word, but they do use them.

Based on race, racial percentages, but they were going to be repertory.

So Stanford let in 20% white people.

That's racist.

Because if you look at SAT scores and great GPAs, that wouldn't have been true.

So they were excluding people on the basis.

And they've done that now for one, two, three years in the post-George Floyd era.

And then you hire almost one administrator for every student and you have 70, 80 DEI

commissars with their staffs, and these universities do that, then you're going to create the environment that you wanted.

Now, the problem with that, Jack, is that they had their own standards.

I didn't make them.

You didn't make them.

They said, to get into Harvard, you need this SAT score.

To get into Yale,

you need this GPA, and we're going to evaluate the quality of that high school to compare it to others.

You have to write a very enlightened essay.

Okay.

You need recommendations from, you know.

And it was a corrupt system because the old boy network gave money and alumni, but all that.

But there was a degree of meritocracy.

60% got in merit in a meritratic way without a phone call, is what I'm saying.

And that doesn't exist anymore.

And now these universities are not going to have a curriculum that they had in the past because they don't have the students with a proven record of achievement that could take those courses.

And in lieu of that, everybody should realize that in lieu of that,

they're going to have to do something else.

And that something else is hire professors with an MA like this guy on the basis that he indoctrinated Colin Kaepernick, and he can go scream and yell.

They wouldn't have done anything, Jack.

They knew who he was.

They knew what he did.

But

it happened to be the Hamas

Jewish-Israeli

blow-up that made people watch.

And they saw these Jewish students, they reported it, and then all of a sudden Stanford said, okay,

let me think a minute, the administration.

We had the DEI person that hijacked a law professor, a federal judge, and allowed the students to say to him that his daughter should be raped, while she, instead of protecting the right of free speech, started screaming in her speech.

We had to let her go, put her on leave for a while, then quietly show her the door.

And we're dealing with Sam Bankman-Freed that was on our campus.

Of course, he was on house arrest, but while he was doing that, he was tampering with a jury from the Stanford campus.

So he's back in prison.

And then his wonderful parents, the avatars, the emissaries, the

you name it, of leftism on the Stanford campus.

It turns out that they were grifters.

And the law professor father wanted a million bucks and they wanted real estate.

And they were frenzily trying to translate, transfer, excuse me, assets before the whole Ponzi scheme collapsed.

Both of them, the the mother and the father.

And then, of course, we had Theranos from a Stanford recent graduate that involved a lot of senior, some of them from my own institution, fellows that were on the board that were hawking a fake blood system that apparently may have sickened a lot of people in its experimental use, but it was an $8 billion Ponzi scheme.

And then we had our president that just resigned because he had doctored a paper.

He said he didn't, but then he resigned and withdrew the paper.

So you decide for yourself.

We have the admission scandal.

We had the word vocabulary scandal where you weren't to use the word American or immigrant.

We had the scandal with the Stanford Internet Observatory.

I could go on, but I don't have time.

So that university is typical, and they have no credibility.

And

they're still shiny little pieces of metal that people want to wear.

And they're still little resume.

Look at me on my resume, Stanford, Harvard, Yale, but they don't mean anything anymore.

They don't mean anything.

If I see a kid that graduated in electrical engineering, as I said, from Georgia Tech, he's much better in Stanford.

If I see a person that has an English degree from Hillsdale or graduated from Thomas Aquinas, I know they got an education they didn't get at Stanford.

They couldn't get it at Stanford because they can't offer those courses anymore because the student body couldn't take them.

And they know that.

And then when they do this and attack Jewish students, they being the university, because this person represents the university, or Harvard won't say anything for four or five days about these students that are siding openly with killers,

then the alumni said, you know what?

Half the alumni, I'm not going to give them any more money.

I'm sick of them.

Why hire them if you,

I go back to that story of the Silicon Valley guy who just said, why hire them?

Because they give you trouble.

As soon as you hire them, they start yelling and whining and screaming, and it's unfair.

They try to undermine you, and they're not that competent.

They can't read and write like they used to.

They're just a bother.

That's going to be the consensus.

It gives a wonderful opportunity for new universities and rebranding of old universities to take up that slack.

Yeah,

I find if

we're going to be cool with identifying people, like the Stanford lecturer did, well,

let's identify all the members of the various college organizations that have stood out in favor of Hamas.

And yeah, some of these growing number of CEOs have threatened.

We won't know for a few years, Victor, if they make good on their threats, but that they won't hire these

pants, and there may be crap in their pants thinking, oh my gosh,

my Harvard degree is going to be worthless.

I'm not going to get it.

And they're really angry, aren't they, that all the students that signed these petitions who were expecting their quarter million dollar salaries,

a lot of Jewish Americans on Wall Street or in

silk-stocking, blue chip, Washington, New York law firm said, why we would want to hire these people.

They hate us.

And so they said, we want the names of all the people who signed those petitions.

And they wanted everybody's name to be known.

That's why they signed them.

They wanted to say, here's my name.

I'm for Hamas.

And as soon as they said, okay,

we just want to know how many of you there are, so we don't want to be around you.

And that's a free country.

We're not doxing you.

You put your name out publicly on your own.

And now they're screaming murder.

This is unfair.

And we want to withdraw our names, Jack.

So a lot of them want to say, we were misled.

We want my $250,000 salary so we can say that we're for Hamas from my BMW.

That's what they, it's just so corrupt and hypocritical hypocritical, and so old, and so tired.

God, I walked across the Stanford campus yesterday, and I saw some little Palestinian radical booth.

And then,

God,

I got to give credit to the Hoo Institution.

They had a memorial service.

Condoleezza Rice had a wonderful memorial service for the fallen in Israel.

And she made it very clear that the Hoo Institution's sympathies are with the people who were butchered.

Right.

And I thought that was really good.

But

that was the atoll on campus.

And the new interim president did suspend.

I don't know.

I guess that's pending an inquiry.

But the question is who hired that guy and on what basis did they hire him?

And we know the answer to that.

Yeah, this is a.

It was on DEI ideology.

And that's what you get.

You hire that, you get it.

Right.

If you just said to all these people, we're going to have a minimum requirement of excellence.

Before we hire you, you're going to have the PhD degree if you're in a discipline that requires it, or an MFA in art or music, whatever.

And we're going to look at your prior teaching record.

We're going to look at your scholarship.

We're going to interview you to see if you're inductive, empirical.

And we're not going to hire you if just because of your skin color or your ideology or your gender or your sexual orientation.

And

that would be the only way they could save it.

And they could say, you know what?

Here's the SAT.

Here's the minimum score that's required.

Everybody, go study the SAT if you want.

This is the GPA.

And if you make that, you can come.

And we don't really care who you are.

We have no interest in

your color, your race, your politics.

Just come if you make our standards, because the standards reflect what we think is necessary to turn out a graduate to be an elite in this society to run it, an engineer, a scientist, a doctor.

And we can't lower the standards because it will affect you in 10 years.

So when you have your gallbladder out and somebody graduated from Stanford Medical School who shouldn't have been admitted and took courses that were not competitive, he's going to kill you.

Yeah.

And that's why we do it, not because we're a chauvinist.

Well,

Victor, I, having toiled in the vineyards of conservative journalism for over three decades, as you have, my hope is,

and I know Washington Examiner tends to

have this sense, but really to double down and name names.

And who is responsible for who are the people that sign these documents, right?

Who are members of these organizations?

On the right,

there's a lot of convetching about things broadly, but I do think we need to target,

even in a broader political level, who are the members of the Colorado, whatever the hell organization is, board, commission that are going after that cake baker.

We need to put names

and face

to all this madness.

I think I said in 2003, I walked.

I think it was the fall of 2003, maybe it was 2004.

I walked on campus.

The Mexicornia had come out and the voice voice of Aslan

student magazine, La Raza, it was an irredentist publication.

Basically, its theme was that everything,

its motto was everything for brown people, nothing for anyone else, and take back the United States.

I guess people are, yeah, I mean, we get 8 million people coming across the border because they don't want to live in Mexico, and then their children are saying we want to take back the area that we're fleeing, that we have that are they are fleeing to and give it to the place they're fleeing from

you figure that out but anyway turn it into two yes okay so anyway but i saw my face in a in a cross a hair you know and the background was the cover mexifornia and then there was a telescopic site with my face in it so i went to the then top administrator and i said do you condone this you know what he said well you wrote a controversial book i I said, did you read it?

He said, no.

I said, it's not.

It's a call for integration, intermarriage, and assimilation.

It has nothing to do with race.

And the term comes from the prison system where Hispanic prisoners, as a term of pride, have called

where they are Mexicornia.

So my point is this.

I went over to the...

Because this gets back to your point.

I went over to

the La Raza headquarters.

You know what it was?

It was one professor, and I think it was his nephew and his son who were students.

And that was who was doing it.

Three people.

Three people.

And I said, would you please not put my name, my face?

You can put my cover on.

You can say anything I want.

Just don't put my face in a telescopic site.

And he said, why?

And he said, because somebody might want to shoot me if they think that's okay.

Holy crap.

And he said, get over it.

And I said, okay, if you want to, so then I went back to the unnamed.

He said, they don't want to take it down.

He said, well, do you want me to call them?

Yeah, I want you to call them.

So they did.

And they didn't take it down, but they stopped.

I think they didn't disseminate it so much or something.

But my point is.

These organizations, students for the freedom of Palestine, Harvard, they always put Harvard, Yale, Stanford.

Have you noticed that?

These people are egalitarian Marxists.

They never just say the ad hoc group for freedom of palace.

They say the Stanford University Islamic Society, the Harvard University Coalition to Free

Palestine.

They want to put those names.

They have really bought in to that cachet as snobs and elites that they are.

You're absolutely right.

If you would publish the names, you would see, that's why they're scared.

You know why they're scared?

It's not a thousand people.

It's about five or six well-heeled elites whose value system is to get ahead at any cost and to use that for the rest of their life as an entree into more money and power.

And when you name five people who are the five and only people, the only people in the Harvard

Islamic Group for the Liberation of Palestine or the Yale Coalition to Save Palestine, whatever, it's about five wealthy elites and kids, and

they are scared stiff that they're not going to translate that education into money

and influence and prestige.

I think it's great because nobody's going to Harvard and saying, give me controversial students so I can dox them.

All they're doing is taking what they dox themselves.

And they thought it was going to be an upside.

They thought, wow, all these hip left-wing

law firms, you know, we saw what they did during collusion and disinformation.

They're all hip.

All these stockbrokers gave all this money to BLM.

We've taken over these institutions.

What they didn't understand was, A, there's a lot of Jewish Americans in there that are left-wing, but still don't condone what's going on.

That's not even, they're angry at what's going on.

And then there's a lot of middle-of-the-road Apolitical people that are just aghast at seeing corpses burned and mutilated, et cetera.

By the way, Victor, you just mentioned BLM and

continuing the mindset of naming names,

you saw this Black Lives Matter of Chicago

support logo on Twitter or X, what it's called now, of one of those paraglider terrorists and supporting what they were doing.

And, you know, it would be good, again, for conservative journalism, or frankly, any journalist to find out: well,

what corporations and money bags and philanthropists supported Black Lives Matter Chicago, which is now praising them for murder and butchery?

Yeah, I hate when they do that.

And they kind of said, they got angry and they said, well, maybe we made a steak, but they didn't really apologize.

And they always use that yo-all, y'all, y'all.

These are sophisticated students that want to sound authentic authentic like they're back in this deep south.

Y'all.

They're not y'all.

It's just they're northern sophisticated.

Hillary did it.

Joe Biden did that, right?

Exactly.

So did Barack Obama.

Yeah, right.

And

as Harry Reid said,

he can adopt a black dialect whenever he wants.

That's what Harry Reid said, a fellow Democrat.

But my point

is this, is that the hang gliders, they were shooting people from the air, and then they landed, and that was part of the.

And then, where did they land?

They landed at a rock concert where they knew there'd be a lot of young people without weapons.

It was a holiday, and a lot of women, so there was a lot of people to kill, a lot of people to rape, and BLM wants to brag about that.

So, they use that as their logo and their protest.

And

they got millions of dollars from corporations that subsidized that.

And the three architects architects of BLM have all quit.

And the three women are Quellars and all of them.

And remember, she gave a talk at Harvard, I think it was just four or five years ago, where she called for the destruction of Israel.

So it was always an anti-Semitic, anti-Israel, anti-Jewish, anti-white, racist, grifting organization.

And after Ferguson, after BLM,

all of these corporations thought, you know what?

I remember the Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson mode of the 90s, you know, Operation Push, Rainbow Coalition, Al Sharpton.

It was, hey, Toyota, do you want to be called a racist and boycotted by left-wing liberals?

Then you better give us a big grant.

And that's what they did.

And that's what BLM

they thought, well, we have to update that mechanism.

So we're going to put a Black Panther 60s veneer onto an 80s grifting operation, call it Black Lives Matter, and then wait for an iconic moment like, you know, George Floyd or Ferguson or you name it, and then we can really go to town and get a lot of money.

And that's what they did.

And now we learned that there was no accounting, that the architects of this scam took off with the money.

They bought three or four homes each.

We learned that,

in addition to all of that,

that Professor Kendi, who was

grifting grifting off the fumes of BLA and got $50 million plus for his anti-racism center,

it'd be like Victor Hansen has a pro-agrarian

conservative center out on his farm.

Can you give me $50 million and I will make it a center to publish and stuff?

I think I could publish more than the entire anti-racism system, because I think they only publish two papers.

In a week, you publish more than they've done in five years.

I mean, I would at least, if I did that, I would call the donors every week and say, here's your money, here's what we're doing with it.

And I would try to make sure that everybody gets it, is productive, and that they weren't productive and didn't do what the donors thought they were going to do, they were going to be gone.

But he got a pass.

And so the whole thing crumbled down.

BLM has got like,

put it this way: the reputation of Stanford and Harvard and Yale and Columbia within a few years will be like BLM and Antifa.

It really will.

And I say that without any exaggeration.

The person that really accused Scott Atlas and by association, me, was the person at Stanford, a professor of English who founded Stanford Antifa.

All you need to know.

Yeah.

Well, Victor, we have one more topic to bring up.

And actually, I wanted to get in some Biden family weirdness, but maybe we're going to save that for another time because

I would think our listeners would like to hear your thoughts about John Kirby defending, well, it's his boss, Joe Biden, but this

preference of climate change over the potential of a nuclear holocaust.

I just don't get it.

But we'll get your take on this, Victor, right after these final important messages.

We're back with the Victor Davis-Hanson show.

So, Victor, I hope I'll set this up quickly.

Biden, not that long ago, maybe within the last month, gave some speech and, of course,

pressing the preeminence of climate change as the existential issue of our time.

And he's saying this, by the way, on the side as of Sullivan.

I can't remember the guy's first name,

the national security guy for the administration is bragging about just days before the S hit the fan about the greatest moment of peace right now in the Middle East, thanks to the Biden administration.

Anyway, Hamas attacks, and John Kirby goes on to Fox, and he's questioned about

the positioning of the administration.

And he, I mean, it's kind of shocking, especially a guy from the military.

No, climate change is the most existential issue of our time.

He didn't say these words, but for all effect was it outranks

nuclear holocaust.

Yeah, you know,

the contention,

the war in the Middle East, who knows?

I think everyone's fear, Victor, is this might spill into something truly horrific and global.

It's not as important to the Biden administration as climate change.

Yes.

Well, it's insane.

He's just a megaphone for the policy.

He's right.

That's the policy.

That's what they believe.

And who is he?

I remember he's, I can remember when he was the spokesperson for, remember Chuck Hagel?

He was kind of a John McCain duplicate.

Sure.

Yeah.

They were kind of like the new Rhino Republican Party.

Right.

And he was a kind of a spokesman.

He was always a spokesman.

I think after a very brief, you know, naval career, he transcended into a naval spokesman.

and then he was a John McCain or Hegel spokesman, and then he went into the Obama administration as a spokesman, and then he's back again as a spokesman.

I wonder what the medal he gets for that.

It must be shaped like a microphone or something.

And yeah, that's his career.

If it's Benghazi and he's going to speak for Hillary Clinton, then it was a pre-planned terrorist.

It was a

pre-planned.

When people said this is a pre-planned terrorist raid, he said, no, it's not.

It's a spontaneous outburst over video.

And we were not warned about it.

And just whatever the party line is, he says it.

And he doesn't really worry.

He knows right now that if the world gets very tense, and it very well maybe if Ukraine has to or thinks it has to conduct operations inside Russia and Taiwan thinks that we are tied down with Ukraine and maybe in the Middle East and with our border and North Korea starts to act up, and there is a nuclear exchange somewhere.

He knows that that is going to kill more people and more dangerous than climate change.

He knows that.

And he can't say anything else because he's an ideologue.

It'd be like if you were in the Soviet Union in 1975 and you knew the whole system didn't work and you worked for Pravda, what would you do?

You would just mouth that.

He's also said that, you know, LGBTQ is a central element of U.S.

foreign policy.

And you want to say to John Kirby, how did that work out?

You did have the pride flag over the embassy, but you skedaddled and left $50 billion in weapons, many of which I think have been sold at some of the reports to the Palestinians in

Gaza.

So

I don't believe anything he says.

I feel kind of sorry for him because what usually happens is when Corinne

Jean-Pierre gets caught lying too much in a week, then suddenly they kind of shift stuff for him to do because he's a more accomplished dissembler and disassembler.

And then he has to come in and

he's,

you know, he's,

I don't know what to say about him.

He just says things that aren't true because his administration tells him to say things that are not true because the administration knows that the border is not secure.

They know

that they gave money, psychological support to Iran

and to radical Palestinians, and that blew up in their faces.

They know

that

Joe Biden said he wouldn't react in Afghanistan if it was a minor incursion.

They know that he didn't do anything about Russian hacking.

They know that, and they know what we did in Afghanistan, and they know that we skedaddled, and we know we called a righteous strike killing 13 civilians.

We know what we left behind.

We know why the world is up in chaos.

And they can't say that because that's not their job to say it.

But that doesn't require us to believe it or even to listen to it.

And, you know, you get to a place in the Soviet Union.

I had a reader that wrote me this today

that

we are reaching the point where the people talking to us know they're lying, and we know they're lying, and they know that we know they're lying.

That nails it.

Yeah.

Yeah, and we continue

pro forma.

Because none of them have the shame to

say I'm lying and then go find another career as a beet farmer or nothing shouldn't be.

What's really interesting

is there is one little wrinkle to all the line, and that is I was looking the other day at a lot of the former neoconservatives that have endorsed Biden and gone all left.

You know what I mean?

I think I know some of them, yes.

Mona Chair and Jennifer Rubin, especially Bill Chris.

That's very contortionist what they have to do now, because any sane person in Israel

they can't say anything because

Biden has expressed rhetorical support.

But if you look at the $6 billion they were so eager to give Iran and to,

you know, kind of institutionalize the value of hostage-taking and dropping the sanctions and giving the $700 million to the Palestinians and

basically reviving the United Nations refugee for relief for Palestine and pressuring Israel.

They know that it caused all this stuff.

And yet they can't say that because they voted this this guy in and they voted this whole anti-Semitic left, anti-Israel left.

And so they'll say things like,

well, this is these people are hypocritical.

Now they're supporting Israel.

That's good.

But they don't support us on Ukraine.

They try to do anything to shift the

attention.

And that's not something that anybody should mention right now.

Because when you look at this, you want to ask yourself, and I support giving Ukraine, you know, billions of dollars to repel aggression.

Putin had no right to go in there.

Any difference they had, they could have discussed it.

And they are sending missiles in to kill people.

It's horrible.

But

when you

are going to have to arm them and give them the wherewithal to sink Russian Black Sea fleet, or to depots or

training areas or logistical centers inside Russia, then we've never done that.

As I said to Sammy, in 80 years of proxy wars, we've never given the wherewithal to a third party to attack the homeland of one of our superpower nuclear rivals.

So it's dangerous.

And

all I ask is some symmetry.

If you're going to tell, if you're Anthony Blinken or you're the U.S.

State Department, Palestinian Affairs, and you tell Israel that they cannot respond and you want to ceasefire, then you better tell Ukraine that too.

If you want to help Israel, then you don't take 250,000 U.S.

shells designed to aid them in times of crisis and send them to Ukraine when they go through that in one month.

And the Europeans are sitting there and they haven't even given that much to them.

Mentioning Ukraine is not a good argument to say you're hypocritical because you do not want to support offensive operations against a nuclear power, Russia, but you do want to support them against Hamas.

It doesn't mean that Russia is not capable of doing what Hamas is.

It's just this is a huge war with a nuclear power, and we're not quite there yet.

And, you know,

Russia sends missiles in there, and it's horrible, and people kill prisoners and all of that.

But so far, the Russian army hasn't come in and killed babies and burned people, and then had crowds in the west saying this is wonderful.

Yeah.

And I saw, and maybe, well, I saw some article today in the Daily Mail.

You know, that poor old

lady, the Jewish lady, and who was taken, but they had, and there were some places in Gaza, some like pizza parlors were using her as an advertisement to sell pizza.

I mean, what kind of barbarity mindset, deep hatred is there?

I mean, the Israelis went in and leveled the place, the pizza parlor, you know, like good for them.

But the.

They lie.

They lie.

I was listening to Fox interview the people on the street, and they said

there was no civilian casualties.

None.

We don't do that.

And there is some, there is now a

revision about the 40 babies that were beheaded because the soldier or two who said that they can't find and

there's no question that babies were murdered and burned.

But because of that, now people who are on the street saying, see, it's all a lie.

Yeah, let's get our facts straight.

But

they're in complete denial.

They do not want to accept that.

Because to accept that means that I'm on the streets of New York applauding people who go into innocent civilians' homes, shoot them, desecrate their bodies, rape them.

And

I do support that.

That's what they do.

They do support that, but they can't say they support that.

So they just say it's all a lie.

And it's very, you know, it's different than Germany.

The German civilians knew more or less what the German army was doing in Russia, and they knew about Dachau, was right in, you know, near

Munich, even though it wasn't a full-fledged death camp with the ability to kill like Auschwitz or Birgenhau and that.

But they knew.

So they either said they didn't know

or they couldn't do anything about it, but they opposed it.

But this is different.

The Gazans don't make that effort.

They don't say,

I don't know what happened.

Those guys are heroes in Gaza that did that.

They're martyrs.

And they don't say, well, I would have stopped it had I known.

No, if they had known, they would have joined.

They would have said, oh, you're going into Israel to kill babies?

Can I come?

That would be the attitude.

And so there is something that's strange

because

Hamas threw the Palestinian Authority out.

They've been there for since 2006.

They steal all the aid and use it for themselves, both for their own comfort and then their labyrinth of hell underneath the city of Gaza City and the tunnels.

That's their whole GDP.

And that's why everybody says, well, wait a minute.

We gave them a trillion dollars the last 20 years.

Where did it go?

Well, it went to, look at those tunnels.

That's where it went.

There's a whole underground.

Or probably Swiss bank accounts, too.

Swiss bank account as well.

But,

you know,

the people knew what was going on.

Everybody said, well, they couldn't stop.

I saw captives on videos that were released, not by Israel, but by sympathetic people in the Middle East.

And they were desecrating and spitting and kicking dead Israeli soldiers and a young woman that was half naked.

And I didn't see anybody in the crowd that was repelled.

Victor, it might be interesting.

And

we're at the end of the podcast here, but at some point, you're right, or we talk about on a future podcast.

Historically,

what groups really detest others?

What people, because I wonder historically, just how

what other

ethnic groups compare to

these Palestinians in the hate, pure hatred for other

people.

They may rank at the top of the top of the list in history.

They're right up there with the Houthis, what they did to the Tulsis.

Oh, yeah.

Yeah,

they have adopted a lot of the same tactics.

They're up there with Turkey and the Armenians.

Armenians were kind of similar in the sense that they were the only Christian.

I mean, in terms of religion, they were a Christian, just as Israel is a Jewish atoll.

They were a Christian, landlocked atoll surrounded by Turkic tribes.

And there were two genocides against the Armenians.

And they did many of the same things.

There were beheadings, there were mutilations.

And

they often just marched them out in the desert and said, see you, no water, no food, let them die.

And the same thing with Greeks.

If you look at the history of the Ottoman Empire,

I don't even have to quote what they did on May 29th, 1453, but in the years subsequent, and you look at what they did in 1921, 22, 23

on the coast of Turkey, especially at Old Smyrna.

That was pretty, and what they did in Greece during 400 years of occupation.

So that hatred.

And today, Erdogan, I mean, today,

they just ethnically cleansed 100,000 Armenians from disputed territory.

And there's a real danger, as we talk, that

drunk on victory, that these surrogates of Turkey are going to go in and slice off more land inside Armenia.

And nobody's helping them.

I mean, Armenia, you used to turn to Russia, but Russia's,

you know, because it was Orthodox.

And Russia is now in league with Turkey.

And it's bogged down in Ukraine.

So they have no patron at all to stop this.

It's a very small population.

And the expatriate community has been assimilated a lot.

So there's not a lot of first or second generation Armenians anymore that remember what happened and are have the wherewithal to send to them.

So they're kind of on their own.

And the same thing is scary about Greece.

You know, Greece's population has one of the lowest fertility rates, and yet it's a far-flung country.

They got 50,000 square miles, and they have all these Aegean islands

right on the coast of Turkey.

And you've got a guy, an Islamicist, Ottomanist president who said,

quote, you know, that you're going to wake up one day and missiles are going to be falling on you from Turkey in Athens.

Right.

And so there are these hot spots around the world.

Iran is another one.

If Iran gets the bomb,

I think

they will use it.

I really do believe they will use it.

And you can see what happened

in southern Israel is what they want everywhere in Israel.

And so

and here too, probably.

Yeah, so probably

I don't quite understand one thing.

I'll

finish today and shut up.

I don't understand this,

that here is this monster, Vladimir Putin, sitting on 6,500 to 7,000 nuclear weapons.

And for the last

two years, he's been saying, if you keep this up, well, his surrogates are saying it.

Now he's saying it.

We have the right to use nuclear weapons.

We're going to use, we're going to do things you won't believe.

And we say, liar, liar, pants on fire, more boilerplate, ha, ha ha we're going to send a drone into the kremlin we're going to sink their biggest ship yes but at some point that is a real danger but

when you hear iran that doesn't yet apparently have a deliverable nuclear weapon and it threatens just like putin everybody takes it seriously oh my god we can't do that oh my god

They might use it.

Well, yeah, they might use it.

And yeah, Putin might use it.

But why would you discount Putin, who has a lot more capability than Iran, and you're terrified of dealing with Iran?

It doesn't make any sense.

They're both killers.

One has a lot more killing power, but yet you keep pushing it and you discount it and you think it's impossible to occur, and the other doesn't have the power yet.

But you say it's very likely and it's too messy, and we would never do that.

So

I don't understand it.

I really don't.

Well,

Well, Victor, you've

shared your usual

big slice of wisdom here today.

Appreciate that.

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about a week ago

regarding the outbreak of the war, please do listen.

It's called a hard rain will fall.

And David

commented on this on that episode on your website, Victor, and he he wrote, outstanding, out, friggin' standing.

If a candidate was to say that VDH would be his or her concigliary

and would use his suggestions first, that would be enough to get my vote, maybe even campaign money.

Thank you, David.

And then another comment.

This is from iTunes.

This is from Dear.

12343.

Love this guy.

So refreshing to hear the truth with the wisdom of history behind it.

Thanks for your precise and timely comments.

I agree with you just about 100%.

I'm not looking for confirmation bias.

I'm looking for another soul seeing the same things I'm seeing and coming to the same conclusion.

And the conclusions are not nice and comfy.

We are in a world.

of hurt right now.

That's dear one, two, three, four, three.

Thank you for that.

Thanks, David.

Thanks, everyone else.

Leave a comment.

Victor, thank you.

Hey, oh, yeah.

Jack Fowler writes civil thoughts for the Center for Civil Society for Amphil.

You can sign up for it at civilthoughts.com, free weekly email newsletter of about a dozen or so recommended articles I've come across in the previous week.

Do check that out.

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Thanks, Victor.

And thanks, everyone.

We will be back soon with another episode of the Victor Davis Hansen Show.

Bye-bye.

Thank you, everybody, for listening.

See you next time.