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former colleague, friend, you know, well, Andy McCarthy has a piece in the National Review today on the, you know, the 11th.

It's titled Contempt Charges Should Be Just the Start if FBI and DOJ officials defy House subpoenas.

And at the end of this piece,

he has a fiscal consideration if they do defy.

But defying subpoenas, Victor, we've talked about that in the past.

It seems like it's inappropriate, depending on your

inappropriate if you're Republican or conservative, meaningless if you happen to be a Democrat.

The subpoena requests that have been issued by these House committees are being treated callously, and Andy's words,

snippily by the Department of Justice and the FBI.

And Victor, if you give your thoughts on that, and then separately, after we do that, I'd like to talk about some of the FBI actions in

Richmond, Virginia,

targeting.

Roman Catholics.

Anyway, Victor, let's start your thoughts in general about how DOJ and FBI have been responsive, their responsiveness to these subpoena requests.

You've got to remember that the left does not believe in reciprocity.

They do not believe in it.

They believe that they're singularly smarter than we are and they're more moral.

And therefore, they get certain leeways and exemptions.

So

they have to do what they have to do.

Again, John Kerry's got to get on that.

Gulf stream.

You can't use your leaf blower because he is morally superior and he's here to change and save us.

And that's what that same principle applies to these subpoenas.

So, if during the Trump administration, and especially

during the close of it,

there were things that hadn't been done before.

So, they started criminalizing subpoenas.

Usually, they negotiate with the person, et cetera.

But

Peter Navarro put him in Lake Chich,

arrested Steve

Biden, excuse me, let me do that over, arresting

Steve Bannon, and they tried him, and they convicted him.

And they went after John Eastman.

And remember, the House Ways and Means Committee for months wanted Donald Trump's tax records.

And they lied about them in the same manner that Harry Reid had lied about Mitt Romney's in 2012.

And they got them.

And that was a precedent that you could take a president's IRS confidential returns and you could explore them in Congress.

They found nothing.

They found that he was, they went from he's a very clever, sneaky businessman that screwed us out of a lot of money people to, my God, he's an utter idiot.

He lost all this money, so he didn't pay income tax on them.

So

that's where they were.

But they set precedents.

And the precedent was,

If the House took over, they could do what the Democrats did.

So now they're subpoenaing and they want tax records.

And all of a sudden, it's, you can't ask for the tax records of the Biden family.

He's president.

You can ask him for Trump when he was president, but Biden's better.

Come on.

And the same thing about subpoenas.

You're not going to criminalize a subpoena.

We're not Steve Bannon.

We're not Steve Bannon.

And so they have this.

We're not, you know, it's back to Eric Holder.

Eric Holder said, I'm not going to go test.

I'm not going to turn over anything to you people.

Fast and furious.

So what?

I'm not going to do it.

And Obama protected him.

And so they pick and choose how to enforce

a statute and it's fluid.

And the Republicans have to press on, on, on, on and make their case to the public.

But they rely on the judiciary that's, I guess, especially in the eastern seaboard, is 75% liberal.

And so they have a lot of resources.

But

we have to get

symmetry back.

It's very important.

And the only way you can get symmetry back is deterrence.

And the only way you get it deterrence is you make it clear to your opponent that it's a very dangerous thing to cross you and to break a protocol because you're going to use that.

And whether we're talking about ballot harvesting, our third party, or ballot curing, or non-election day voting, or we're talking about

kicking

members of the minority party off particular key assignments, then you've got to do that.

And that's designed to tell these people you can't do what you're doing.

I mean, they had,

Jack, they had Jonathan Turley of all people.

I mean, he's a law professor.

He's an old liberal Democrat.

He's a good guy, and he's trying to be disinterested.

And they

brought him, when he was up there and he was testifying to the overreach of the FBI and government agencies and their contracting of Twitter to circumvent the First Amendment.

He thought, I guess he thought, that these people as ACLU types would be applauding him.

But they smeared him as a near-Russian puppet.

It was incredible.

So, and that was Debbie Wasserman-Schultz, who has a checker record herself.

And so

you've got to really stick it to them.

As far as the FBI, very quickly, and then I'll stop.

We thought Mueller was bad.

We thought Comey was worse.

We thought McCabe was even worse because Mueller had a record of massaging evidence.

He had ignored certain warnings when he was in charge

at Boston.

There were certain things he did on the Bolger matters.

When he ran the special investigation,

he let Andrew Wasserman basically take it over.

He lied in Congress.

I think he lied.

I think most people would say if he didn't know what

the Steele dossier or fusion GPS, he's either a liar or he's an idiot.

Take your pick.

He shouldn't have been the special counsel.

And then we know, no need to get into James Comey,

you know, telling the president he's not the object of an investigation, which he knew he was, leaking deliberately

memorializing a private conversation with the President of the United States on an FBI

device and on FBI

time and then leaking it to the media to a third party.

Andrew McCabe

ips a dicks it.

He just lied four times, according to Michael Horowitz to federal investigators.

But Christopher Wray is worse.

He's much worse because he is doing things they did not do.

When he went after

the parents of the school, children that were forced to be indoctrinated on the prompt of Merrick Garland, I guess that they were were domestic terrorists.

Or

he went after in the way he did James O'Keefe, or he staged that SWAT raid performance art of Roger Stone, which was unnecessary.

Or he wanted to humiliate Peter Navarro.

Or he went after, sent his guys after that poor parent.

Remember that, Jack?

The guy that at an abortion clinic, somebody was berating his son.

He was protesting.

And he pushed the guy, said, said, don't touch, get near my son.

And he swarmed his house.

By the way, Victor, that guy's lawyer said, okay, we're going to come in peacefully.

But that was not, they wanted the performance on it.

No, they did.

And they went after, they did not have to do what they did to Donald Trump.

They approved that, that they could go into Joe Biden's garage without doing that.

And believe me, Joe Biden's garage was a lot, much more vulnerable to being broken in or tampered with than the many layered security parameters at Mor-Lago.

Today, if I, let's say a month ago, if I wanted to, before all this conundrum, I probably, and it put it this way, I could have gone into Joe Biden's vice presidential garage much easier than I could into Mor-Lago.

And so my point is that he is doing things that we haven't seen the FBI do, and we haven't seen them do before.

And so when we learned that

he was hiring Twitter as a contractor,

a private contractor for $3 million, and then turning over a list of names, this journalist, this organization, we want them shadow banned, we want them canceled, we want them kicked off.

And then he was serving, his agency was serving as a doorman.

So he got the word out.

And if you're in the DOD,

Pentagon,

if you're in the CIA,

you got your list.

You got your guys.

We want you to kick off social media.

Just give them to us.

We've got to deal with Twitter.

We'll just go in and give them the name.

So, you know, don't use the name CIA.

That's against the law to interfere with the free expression of Americans or surveillance.

We'll give you a phony name by their government organization if we have to, but we will get.

Twitter to do it.

If you have that

crazy guy, Roth, I think that's his name at Twitter, who is about as left-wing as you could get, and he's shocked and overwhelmed at the requests coming in from the FBI to ban,

censor, ostracize, et cetera, that's pretty bad.

And that was the U.S.

government doing that.

And this was under Christopher Wray and the FBI.

And so then it was very, and when having these hearings and you tune into them,

gosh, it's just incredible to see these left-wing people start praising the fbi

for surveilling americans and violating their constitutional rights they love it they're just and then they're the commentators of joe scarborough or claire mccaskill

it's just you know calling donal uh jonathan turley as she did claire mccaskill the commentator i guess she's on msnbc or cnn

it's just incredible and this is all christopher ray this is the guy who looked at the Senate

Grassley.

I don't know.

I think it was Ron Johnson or Grassley.

He said, you know what?

I can't continue.

I got an appointment.

Sorry.

Yeah,

appointment

with a lake.

Yeah, I got

my vacation home.

I need to get my private Gulf Stream that is under the FBI.

It's going to fly me.

So bye, see you.

Wouldn't want to be you.

That's his attitude.

I think his attitude is after me the delusion.

His attitude is,

if I survive Trump, and I will because I'm leaking to the media like they all do, and they all love me now, and I can get into the Biden administration.

I got four years if I just do what they want.

And I can be a private retrieval service.

Lose a laptop, I'll sit on it, not

let one person

know that it's authentic.

And I will allow my former colleagues in the FBI and their friends in the CIA, and they'll sign a letter that Joe can use during the debate saying rushing disinformation, even though I know that's false, and even though I won't let anybody look at this thing, that's what I'll do.

And that will affect an election.

That's what he did.

Ashley Biden's diary is missing.

Another Biden lost item, we'll go get it.

Hunter's gun missing.

That was an earlier FBI and Secret Service.

Laptop, diary,

you name it.

He'll go find it.

Classified documents.

Hey, Joe, it's November 2nd.

You lost some documents.

They're classified.

No problem.

Let's just sit on it until the midterms are over.

And then your lawyers can talk to my lawyers, and we're not going to do any more logo,

be assured.

That's what he's doing.

And he is destroying the reputation of the FBI.

And he's destroyed it, along with Comey and McCabe and Ulrich.

So when you say FBI to to 70% of the country,

they don't have a positive reaction.

Right.

And they're having trouble getting FBI agents.

And they've had to lower the standards, just like they do in the military.

And people are afraid of the FBI.

And there's good reason, because if you go to an abortion clinic and peacefully protest,

and somebody

goes after your son and you say, keep away from my son, they're going to swarm your house.

And you know that if you go to a pro-choice demonstration and they are surrounding a church or something,

and they're going to give them a free hand, they're not going to do a thing.

The FBI is not going to do anything.

And everybody knows that, that it's not symmetrical.

So that's just the way it is.

Excuse me, Victor, you've seen the French movie Z about the Greek.

And I was thinking just the other day, I watched it for the first time.

Like, look at all these law enforcement officials standing aside while

democracy or

politics.

Yeah, I lived in Greece in 73

during the dictatorship.

And that was, I think that movie was, what was it done in 69?

It was right after the coup of 67

in Greece where the colonels, they were not generals.

They were Papadopoulos, the colonels, and they had taken over from the parliamentary government with the aid of the United States.

Unfortunately, the CIA was involved in that.

Not to a great extent, but they greenlighted it because they wanted Greece to stay in NATO, and they were afraid that the socialist government would be pro-Soviet, etc.

Well, equal justice of the law doesn't always apply.

Hey, Victor,

I'd like to get one more thing about Andy and then back to the FBI, as I mentioned before with

the Latin mass.

But so Andy ended his piece.

Let me just back up one other thing.

If the

leadership, Garland and others, just continue to thumb their nose,

what can be done.

There's no prosecutions of a failure to

appear as subpoenaed.

There is one recourse, and that is the budget.

And here's how Andy ended his piece.

Just a decade ago, at the height of its Obama-era activism, the Justice Department managed to get by on a budget of about $27 billion, i.e.

$11 billion less than what Biden and Congressional Democrats just poured into its coffers.

Meantime, the government is $31 trillion in debt.

Anti-woke dissent.

is the Justice Department's preoccupation while actual violent crime surges in our cities, and the FBI is spending its lavish resources suppressing political speech on social media and interfering in presidential elections.

Do you think the Justice Department is worth $38 billion?

Yeah, Victor, I think that's the recourse if the party has the guts to do it, is to cut off a significant amount of funding.

Yeah, that's the only thing they can do.

And

they should cut off all funding for the new FBI building.

That should not go through.

They got some huge plot out.

I think it's in Virginia, Alexandria, somewhere out there, and they're going to build this monstrosity.

And it's just going to further focus and centralize and aggregate FBI power in Washington.

Exactly what the problem is.

They should be building maybe $10 million local satellite headquarters all over the United States and break it up.

But

that's the only thing they can do is to

cut back on the funding.

I don't know what happened to Merrick Garland.

He tried to sell himself as some kind of moderate when he was not given what he considers a chance to show that he was disinterested.

But

I always thought he was what he is now.

And I think he's very bitter and he's on a crusade.

And he hates people for denying him a Supreme Court birth.

So he's going to try to make life miserable for anybody who's conservative as the DOJ.

The only thing he hasn't done is he hasn't done what Eric Holder said and be overt about it by saying, I'm Obama's wingman.

He hasn't quite said that.

But

if you look at the way that that DOJ has been conducted, it's just not that it goes way back to the whole Trump administration.

We had that Sally Yates was in there on a holdover, and they went after Michael Flynn on that ossified Logan Act.

Then you had Rod Rosenstein threatening the Nunes staffers that if

you don't stop asking me for documents, I'm going to surveil you guys and I'm going to wear a wire with Andrew McCabe.

And then we had Bruce Orr.

Remember, he was at the DOJ.

It's just out of control.

It's out of control.

I have these professional

Ivy League law grads, the kind of people that went into the Mueller Super Team or Super Bowl of Lawyers or the Dream Team or the Hunter-Killer team.

They were all bragging about them.

So

the DOJ is, I don't know, it's scary.

scary.

All these things are very scary.

And I think people

don't want to admit that.

And I don't want to admit it because I was a big supporter of the law and the FBI and the CIA and the

DOD, even the IRS.

And they've been taken over by these left-wing zealots.

And they feel that they're an arm of the revolution.

And they're going to go after people.

And they keep pushing, pushing, pushing, pushing, pushing.

And they can go after you.

And it's scary.

there's nowhere to hide, or you know, silence is

what is silence?

What's that slogan again?

Silence is defiance, or some no, no, silence is defiance, something like that.

I mean, you can't not genuflect.

Speaking of genuflecting, though, and I look, we kid around about Catholic stuff in the past,

and but this is serious.

And even if you're not Catholic or don't care about Catholicism, or even if you hate Catholicism, this is still not unimportant.

There are Catholics who still

desire to worship

through the Latin Mass.

The Latin Mass was for centuries how Catholics around the world worship.

And then when the Second Vatican Council happened in the 1960s, the vernacular was permitted.

And

it wasn't supposed to kill the Latin Mass, but it essentially did.

A lot of people left the church over that, but a lot still think that that Mass is something sacred about it

but uh and and so it's very important to them as it is well it it should be i'm i don't go to latin mass but i i you know i'm i'm very uh i admire my friends that that do and i do have a lot of friends that do so here's what the fbi has done

uh its richmond bureau has put out put out an eight-page memo uh in this january and this is you know is everything wrong with the FBI just in the headquarters in Washington?

No.

This is the title of

this memo.

Interest of racially or ethnically motivated, violent extremists in radical traditionalist Catholic ideology almost certainly presents new mitigation opportunities.

So think of that.

If you happen to be a Catholic that still worships through Latin Latin Mass,

you are a target for the FBI because you must be a racist.

You check all the presumed boxes of being a white supremacist, et cetera.

Now, this has been,

once this was outed, the FBI was embarrassed.

BS line about this doesn't,

it's not the exacting standards that we expect, et cetera, et cetera.

But somebody felt empowered enough within the FBI leadership, at least in one bureau in Richmond, to

do this.

Yeah, when you hear these stories, like the Stanford University euphemism list that you can't say American or citizen, you ask yourself, well, how is this possible?

And I can tell you how it's possible.

So they create a culture top-down that rewards wokeism.

So you get a bunch of FBI bureaucrat mid-level administrators and think, hmm, I really want to get promoted.

So what white

right-wing group can I, you know, defame and get, I'll write a memo that we should go after these people.

And then I'll put on my resume.

Special agent Smith was the one who organized the surveillance of this dangerous, racist, homophobic.

That's what they're doing.

Same thing at Stanford.

Well,

we've got everything we want.

How am I going to get known?

What can I, oh, maybe I can go after words.

That'll be new.

And so

the climate is the fish rots from the head.

And that's what Ray is doing.

He's creating a climate where certain FBI agents will be punished and certain will be rewarded.

Same thing with DOD.

This is very important.

Same thing with everything.

I mean, we've had, just to get off topic a minute, we've had two, what, major, major aircraft near misses.

And we had one today again.

I think we had a hit today in LA where a cargo plane hit another one on the tarmac.

And that all of those are reflective of poor air traffic controller and poor pilot error, or mostly air traffic controller, I think.

But the point is, you've lowered standards for all of these occupations that are essential to the country.

And people then take advantage and say, oh, I got an idea.

I will be promoted if in my section of the FAA,

I had the best diversity diversity statistics of anybody.

Or if I'm a colonel in the Army, it's not my

artillery brigade or if a one-star, maybe it's a division commander says,

we didn't have the best

artillery

accuracy record, but

we have more women and transgendered and gay and blacks and Latinos than any other group.

So I want to be promoted.

And he will.

It's like it's very similar to the commissariat.

What's ironic about it is: if you go back in literature as it pertains to the military,

people would say the reason that we're going to defeat the Nazis and the reason that we're different than the Soviets is they have commissariats.

The Nazi ideology is essential if you want to get promoted.

And they're passing over a lot of the most talented of the old Russian, Prussian military class, officer corps, that weren't sufficient.

They were mostly Catholics, many of them.

And they weren't, some of them, the Prussians were more

Protestant, but they passed them over.

And the same thing until 42, 43 in the Soviet Union.

That's what we're doing in our military.

And that's what we're doing in all of these investigatory agencies.

We're using criteria that's not merucratic and it's ideological.

In our case, it's race.

and gender.

And

there's going to be a price to pay.

You're going to get,

I don't want to predict it because somebody will say, oh, you were happy, but we're going to have a major airline collision.

Because I've been flying, you know, I've started to fly again and I see things at the airports that are pretty incredible.

I see people go right up to the desk and insult and scream their lungs out at the counters much more frequently than before.

There doesn't seem to be any enforcement.

You know, you'll be on a plane and they'll say, this is a Canadian region or 200.

There will be no roller.

They will not fit.

Rollerbags will not fit.

Do not bring them on.

And people will just say, screw that.

I'm bringing them on.

And then they'll hold up the flightway.

And then when you go out and look, you'll see people that don't know what they're doing when they're flagging planes to leave.

And you look at some of the pilots, you think, wow, they're 18 years old or something.

So I think when you're doing this, you should be expecting that

most of the world works that way on the basis of tribalism.

We were the exception, not the rule.

That's why we had such a high standard of living.

But this ideological crusade that has ruined the FBI, it's ruined the DOD, it's ruined the DOJ, it's ruined the CIA, it's ruined the NSA, and it's ruining the FAA.

It's ruining everything.

Victor, the ideologues who run these

agencies, et cetera,

that's what they want to hear back is ideology.

And Yosol Zenitsyn wrote about this in the Gulag Archipelago.

And there's one little anecdote about some guys who thought, well, they were in the Soviet Academy of Chess, something like that.

Like, at least we can be safe here, you know, because

how could ideology, how could Marxism come to chess?

Guess what?

It came to chess.

It comes for everything.

I think our listeners know that.

But

besides, you know, Latin mass using that as an example, but there's no hiding from the ideologues they will find.

It's very important to see what DeSantis is doing because he's ignoring the criticism.

And

as I understand it, as I observe it from a distance, his attitude is these people are ideologues and they're indoctrinating people and they're hiding under the veneer of free speech.

Don't dare tell me that I can't teach.

that America's racist and my students should feel guilty in white supremacy.

That's just free speech.

You can't.

So he's gone in and then barred some of that.

And

that's very important what he's doing.

There's a group, it's called the American Freedom Alliance.

I think there are 700 professors.

I signed on.

And one of the original members is Josh Rao from the Hoover Institution.

He's an economist and business professor.

And I don't know if you saw that Wall Street Journal article he pinned about this, but his point was that the Freedom Alliance, quote-unquote,

non-partisan, disinterested, bipartisan, whatever term, they condemn DeSantis.

We're for free speech and it's pure form.

No, you're not.

If you see,

under that, you're allowing these people to go off topic and indoctrinate people.

That's not free speech.

How do you know who somebody's free speech is another censor?

No, you have to know it when you see it.

And so he wrote a good article about that.

Yeah, what do they think these DEI

bureaucracies are about?

It's about suppressing speech.

Well, if you've got 16,000 administrators, excuse me, 15,000 administrative personnel, I should say, at Stanford, and you've got 16,000 students, one per one,

you've got to have something to do.

And if you don't have anything to do, you've got to invent it.

And if you're going to invent it, you've got to go after things like vocabulary, or you've got to go after

somebody who objects to woke indoctrination and smear them as anti-free speech etc whoopi goldberg on the view saying they want to erase black history did she really believe that black history didn't exist i mean i was a freshman at uh

uc santa cruz jack in 1971

and jay herman blake somebody listening will know that name he's an african-american professor and he would get up and it it was, you know,

he would just

go into it.

It was pretty tough about racist America and white supremacy and you people in the audience.

And that was

almost 50 years ago.

And so Whoopi Goldberg says, oh, he's going to eliminate, we don't have any black.

No, he's talking about indoctrination.

which is all of these hyphenated studies courses.

They're all indoctrination.

And,

you know, I was once on the general education committee at a state college, and it was for critical thinking.

And we were going to, can you believe that?

That liberals and left-wing people actually passed things that students were not thinking critically.

And so each course in the general education had to be redefined, or they would be dropped if they didn't have a critical thinking component and explain it.

And so the women's studies head came in and she showed the syllabus.

And I just said,

you say that the purpose of your class is to convince people that America is now a sexist country and always will be.

That's not critical thinking.

You can come to that conclusion, but you're deductive.

You're starting with a premise and then you're making examples fit.

You've got to bring in fair number of examples and then find out what the inductive conclusion is.

And she said, I can't believe you're doing that.

But my point is this, a group of very, I was the only conservative on the committee and they voted to deny that class until she rewrote it.

Think about how things have fallen.

There used to be people in the United States that were liberal that believed in free speech and inductive empirical thinking, and now there's not, or they're afraid, they're hiding somewhere.

But one thing, you know, that I think it's not off topic, but have you noticed that they're starting to cannibalize their own people?

And people,

I can't believe that

Andrew Sullivan, who used to write Ecomia to Obama, remember how he just said he was brainwashed on the Iraq war and the neon cons and how wonderful Obama was.

He got, I think he was on a visa and he got busted for marijuana.

And the Obama people took care of that for him.

And he was just, he's writing now about how dangerous this woke stuff is.

And then Bill Maher used to be, ah, that guy was just obsessed with Trump.

Now he is worried that it's racist.

And Dave Chappelle used to be pretty left-wing, and now he's been hounded out.

And J.K.

Rowan was really left-wing, the Harry Potter author.

And, you know, everybody loves Barry Weiss, but I used to read her columns.

They were pretty left-wing.

Yeah.

Richard Dreyfus.

I don't know if you've seen him come out of the woodwork.

Glenn Greenwald is conservative now.

I know.

And so

that hasn't happened on the political level.

We don't have one single major Democratic politician says, I'm not woke.

I'm sorry.

But you can start to see that whether this is matters of conscious

consciousness, you know, that

they're saying to themselves,

I can't adhere to this anymore.

It's anti-American.

It's anti-empirical.

Yes.

anti-civilizational or

man they're going to eat me pretty soon and i either fight back or I'm going to be cannibalized, swallowed by these people.

I don't know whether it's self-interest or what, but you're starting to see a lot of people push back.

Yes.

And you have to because we're in a revolutionary state right now.

We are indeed.

We are.

They don't kid around.

They want to destroy people.

Hey, Victor,

there's a speaking of destroying someone.

And there's some stuff going on in Virginia, also in Richmond, but in the state capitol.

And it has to do with education

and

the left, Democrats, going after a woman of color.

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It has to do with education.

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So, Victor, mentioning again

things Virginia, Richmond.

Here's a story from the Daily Signal, and I hope our listeners will indulge for just a second.

They may not know about the story.

It's headlined: Democrats should be ashamed.

Youngkin Condemns Removal of Parent from Virginia Board of Education.

Virginia Democrats, and they control the Senate.

The Republicans control the House in Virginia, but Democrats control the Senate.

Virginia Democrats who voted to remove concerned parent Suparna Duta from the state's Board of Education on Tuesday this week should be ashamed, according to Republican Governor Glenn Youngkin's office.

Quote, in an appalling show of partisanship, The Democrats said the quiet part out loud.

Parents aren't qualified to advise on education in Virginia.

Yunkin spokesman Macaulay Porter told the Daily Signal.

Suparna Dutta immigrated from India, exemplifies the American dream, and is a Fairfax County public school parent who has continually advocated for parents and students to have a voice in their education.

Long story short here, Victor, the other day,

the Democrats voted her off

the board of ed because they found she complained about too much teaching of socialism in schools um and they just said she does not have the qualifications like essentially that she's a layman or a laywoman and uh such people should not be on state board boards of ed victor um she reminds me a little of uh you know george um oh now i can't remember george uh the the the um the guy down in florida who killed

who had that fight with the with the black kid who obama said

he i know his name began with Zimmerman.

Zimmerman, yeah, who was called a right?

Was he called a white Hispanic?

White Hispanic, and he was half Peruvian.

If he had just done what he was supposed to do and Latinized his name to Jorge

Mesa, his mother's maiden name, then Jorge Mesa would not have been a white Hispanic that preyed on Trayvon Martin.

He would be a Hispanic that Latino who was fighting for his life in a

mixed-race fight.

But once he wanted to assimilate and integrate and become an American and just use his father's last name, as most people do, and Americanize Jorge into George, he was done for.

Well, this woman,

Mrs.

Duda,

you know,

she's a dark, she's a woman of color.

She's from, she, isn't this the time where we have a vice president who is

the left?

Now, isn't she the same?

Doesn't that give her any status, any cachet?

I guess not.

The left, and especially the white, bicoastal white upper class, upper, upper, upper class.

They have a particular dislike of what they call people of color that don't appreciate their white liberal efforts on their behalf.

So you remember that this poor school board member was supposed to think, oh my gosh, thank you so much

that I am a person of color, Ms.

Duda,

and I'm so emboldened, so I won't dare question any of this ideology because you're doing it for me.

And without you, I wouldn't make it.

And that's the trap that affirmative action identity politics goes.

So if you're Thomas Sowell and you're smarter than 99% of people on the planet, then you are, and you're conservative, they're going to go after you.

Shelby Steele, they're they're going to go after you.

And they do it also because they send a message, kind of like the Commissars in Russia.

Do you want to be on the winning team and have a pretty good life?

Or do you want to get kicked off the school board?

Which is,

and so most people, being cowardly, will always think that they're on the winning side.

So it's very, again, this is a reminder: we have to be on the winning side.

And that means you have to have the majority of public opinion.

You have to fight for recontrol and to recapture these institutions.

But

it's,

we were talking sort of about, you know, people who have converted.

Did you see this story this week where this Congresswoman, Craig, she's Asian American and she's gay and she's a congresswoman.

I think from Minnesota, I'm not sure, but she was in her apartment and she was attacked by this African-American.

I guess he was kind of a thug.

And she threw hot coffee in his face and survived and got away.

And then very shortly, she was one of what, less than 30 Democrats to vote with the House Republicans to not accept the Washington, D.C.

effort to decriminalize.

violent crime, criminals, you know, just not charge them with the crimes that they should be charged with.

And so,

and it was very funny, though, because she was criticized.

And

we live in this alternate universe where

a lot of,

I think a lot of the Asian community

should realize that there's a lot of

upper, upper, upper class left-wing

condensation.

and patronizing.

And there's a lot of anger coming from Latinos and and blacks at Asians that they're the quote-unquote good minority that are used by the white supposed

conservative group to say see anybody can make it in America and the result of all that is that

if you're in that group

being a liberal doesn't make any sense at all.

And I can, you saw this example of somebody from that was an immigrant quite dark and wants to restore school standards and empirical education, and they think she's an enemy of the people.

Or Congress,

we keep hearing every time an Asian American is attacked by a person of color, and if you can believe FBI crime statistics,

I know at least in 2019 we had Fool that they are, along with Jews, the most likely to suffer an interracial crime.

dubbed a hate crime.

And they are African Americans are the most disproportionate group that commit them.

And yet you can't say anything about that.

And then when you looked at the scandal, I think that was in Virginia, but also in Maryland, where the schools were systematically not apprising national merit scholars.

Actually,

yeah, this woman, I'm pretty sure, from Fairfax County,

is that's the epicenter of

this in Virginia.

And it did, yeah, it was happening in Maryland also, but the denial of the, I think over a thousand students.

Yeah.

And so they ruined their, basically they study very hard, they work very hard, they got a national merit scholarship, which is a guarantee of a scholarship at a major university.

And the schools didn't apprise them of that.

The national merit testing people did, but that I don't know why they don't contact the student directly, but they don't.

And they contact the school and then they interrupted that chain of communication because they felt that it was somehow not fair or would reward hard work and achievement.

And from what we can tell, that was aimed a lot at Asian Americans.

It was absolutely aimed at.

So

there is a war on the part of the left on Asian Americans because they feel that they

upset the identity politics affirmative action narrative.

That they,

even though they are not white and even though they have experienced a lot of discrimination, they overcome it.

And if they can overcome it, then anybody else can.

And I think we're going to get to the point very quickly where Latinos are going to be targeted as not sufficiently.

Was it Maria Flores that the Washington Post just went after?

That, you know, that Maya, what was her name?

She's a congresswoman from Miami.

And

she, she was just,

you know, that, yeah, she was

she was targeted by the Washington Post.

And I read this

bio piece on it, you know, Myra, I think her name is.

And it was incredible because she's conservative.

She was one of the people, wasn't she, that opposed Kevin McCarthy at the beginning.

And they said, you know, she didn't, she, she doesn't, she didn't speak English with an accent.

And she didn't identify with the Latina when she was in the military.

She didn't join the Latina group.

And so therefore, now that she's a Latina, she's, my God, it was desperate.

But I think they're going to start doing that as well.

And I say they,

who are they?

They are the upper white bicostal cognitive elite.

They really are.

And

we've discussed that before why they do this, to try to defy people by race, but they do.

And I think Indian Americans should be wised up that they're in their crosshairs.

Yeah.

Victor, I just want to be clear about that.

That when we say Asian,

and at least as it applies to some of these education scandals, I do think how I would think of when you say Asian, I think, okay, this is

what term are you going to use?

Be careful.

Well, no, I'm just thinking China, Japan, Korea.

What term do you use?

And now, but also, well,

why do we use Asians for people that are wholly of different civilization appearances.

Yeah, I mean, what does someone from Korea and India have

to do with each other?

But why do we do that?

Because

we were told that Oriental

and Occidental were racist.

In fact,

they're both Latin terms, and they

follow through with the Greek idea that if you're in the Greek peninsula or Italy and you look up, and you see the sun rising,

that's Oriens, the word to rise.

and when you see it set in the west, it's called Okidas, the falling.

And so people to the west of Greece were called

Occidentals, the people who live in the falling sun places.

And people to the east, the Persians, were called the Oriens people, the Orientals.

And then I guess

that

non-racist terminology was deemed racist because of British imperialism imperialism or something.

So you cannot use the word Oriental anymore.

I don't know if you can say Occidental or not.

There is an Occidental college in Los Angeles.

I don't know what they mean by that.

Western, I guess.

But

yeah, that's the problem.

But to be fair, a lot of Indian people from India wanted that rubric because they felt that

that was entree into the 30% of the diverse community.

And it was very successful because that old binary of black, white that was expanded to Latinos, that was expanded to, I could say, Oriental people, if I can,

that has now been

expanded to almost anybody who's not white as a victim.

And so I can tell you at universities,

when I started at a state university, if you were from India, you didn't get anything.

And when I left, you did.

That was called diversity.

And people would say, you know what?

I have a program.

I have a department.

And there's 10 people.

And guess what?

Only five are white, just five.

And it didn't matter what the others were.

They were in some new collective that Obama had created.

Right.

I had mentioned, and we don't have much time.

We have time.

We have time for one subject.

I mentioned maybe we talk about Chris Ruffo and New College, but I think we should do that

on another show because this is

a very worthwhile subject of immigration and the cost of it.

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my friend, I'm sure, I guess he's, is he your friend too?

You know Mark Krikorian.

Yes, I know him very well.

I've known him a long time.

Yeah, I love Mark.

He's a great guy.

I do too.

He's doing wonderful work at the Center for Immigration Studies.

Right.

All right.

We've had him on when I was running National Review Cruises.

He went on a bunch of them.

He's brought his kids.

Lovely, lovely family.

Mark has a piece today about the

cost of Biden's border madness.

It's $200 billion.

And

let me just read this quickly.

The reason it's in the post is it bounces off Mayor Eric Adams complaining, like, oh, this illegal immigration is going to cost us $2 billion.

Quickly updated to $4 billion.

It's crazy how much.

But that's just on the New York City level.

But on a national level,

Mark writes that: here's what he wrote: adjusted for inflation, the lifetime cost to taxpayers of each illegal immigrant is over $80,000.

Under Biden's orders, Homeland Security has released into the United States nearly 2 million illegal border crossers so far, meaning their lifetime cost to taxpayers will be close to $150 billion.

Add in another 1 million gotaways,

and that brings the lifetime cost cost for taxpayers soars past

200 billion.

I know, Victor, you think it's

much larger because that's the concrete identifiable, but it's not the damage to the environment down along the border.

It's not the inconvenience.

And I'll just give you,

I just got back maybe four hours ago from a food market.

I won't give the name of the town.

I won't give the name of the food market.

But I just wanted two bags of dog food.

That's all I wanted, Jack.

I just wanted to go in the day before the Super Bowl, and there was a huge crowd, and I was in a line.

And of course, those snap cards and EBT cards, and you can buy junk food.

So the woman ahead of me had, I guess it was the day before the Super Bowl, 48 cans of Mountain Dew and Coke.

I'm not, not diet.

Not diet, just regular, and then food, chips, et cetera, junk food.

Yeah.

All junk food.

And she pulled out her first EBT card, electric banking transfer card.

And the old day you had stamps, remember?

And we thought that was too cruel and that was self-incriminating and that was mean.

So now it just looked like a Visa card.

And she pulled it out.

And I think they have about $950 a month per family.

And it didn't work.

And of course, the line is getting bigger and bigger.

And she pulls out the next one and it didn't work.

And she pulls out the third and part of it.

And then she gets an argument.

And

people go to the, I went to the next line.

And I was there.

And the person ahead of me did not speak English and was trying to cash a check and had no ID.

And this went on.

And then the next person had the EBT card.

And they had, I think it was a snap card for, or a WIC card, a green one, women, infants, children.

And she was trying to put Coke and the stuff that was on her EBT card, who has run out.

So she was trying to put on the WIC card.

And that was held up.

And then,

you know,

this was coming after I had the day before gone to the

local drugstore.

I won't mention the name.

I won't mention the town.

And I was in the line of cars and I waited about 40 minutes.

And the the person ahead of me, I thought something was wrong because it didn't move.

So I got out of the car just to walk up to see if I could help.

You know, I thought her car was dead.

She didn't speak a word of English.

And the Spanish she was speaking was very hard for the person who was speaking Spanish to understand, which means it was a partly indigenous dialect.

Right.

And then I came home and I decided to take the dogs for the walk around the ranch.

And I spied a new trove of trash, i.e.,

the car seat, the wet garbage, the throne.

And then

I,

you know, I walk, I just, it's not on my property, it's on the neighbors now.

And then I'm just thinking, this is just in one day, right?

Just in one day.

And when I'm at the airport with all these different language, you know, before when you want to hear an announcement, or when I want to get something fixed and I call and I get a pre-recorded sound

or I went to a specialist not too long ago in Fresno and there was nowhere to sit down and which had been very easy to access four years ago and no one except me spoke English there.

Everybody spoke Spanish.

So what I'm getting at is when you take 5 million illegal entries and they swarm the, and they have not been to a Western doctor or a dentist or have a means of support, and they're coming from a very different culture and they don't know English and they're not legal.

And it's not a diverse group and it's not meritocratic.

And you just dump them in these communities and they keep coming, then that costs things.

And what do I mean by cost?

That means that if you want to go to the store and buy a bag of dog food, it can take 30 or 40 minutes.

Or if I want to go to a Home Depot,

I have to kind of say, no, no, no, no, no, I don't want to buy your strawberries.

I do not want to buy your

milkshake that you're selling that you made right there in the spot.

Or if I drive near my home, I would say there's 5,000 people every Sunday morning at a mart.

Swap meet, it's huge and nobody's collecting sales tax.

And if I can buy anything, if I get up in the car right now and I want a shovel,

I want a pair of pants.

I want a bicycle, all I have to do is go to the proper rural crossroad and I can go pay cash, and there's no sales tax.

And so, when you put all of that cost of the inconvenience and the slowing down of the system and the overtaxing of social services, which by the way hurt poor people more than they do me,

and

the robbing the government of revenue by at the same time adding to the cost of government,

then you can see

why California has a 13% tax rate

and and it's $25 billion in the red.

And there's not enough people that are following the rules and are trying to make things expedite.

On the garbage side, Victor, you wrote about that.

I know this is a slice, but there's one point you made, and I think anyone might understand this.

If you're not vigilant about that on a daily basis, if you don't get rid of that car seat and other crap you came across the other day, within two days, there'll be a mountain of crap there.

There's two different theories about it.

Yeah.

So my renter, I won't mention his name.

He's a wonderful guy.

His theory is you let one car seat there.

The word gets out.

Hey, over there, you can drop your, and then it turns into Mount Trashmore very quickly.

Or around the corner, and I took a picture of it, is that farmer's idea is he's on a corner.

I'm just going to let the sofas and the refrigerators and the washer and the air conditioners

and

the

paint cans and the old oil drums.

I'm just going to let it get up and it's going to get so gross and so disgusting that everybody in the community is going to say, we can't tolerate this.

And that's his theory.

So he doesn't have to do anything.

But when you drive by his farm, it looks like an open cesspool.

And I think he's got the right idea, but he doesn't understand that people don't care.

There is nobody in the community that says, oh, my God, our community is turning into a slum.

I have to stop it.

And there's nobody in government that says, you know, this is unhealthy.

They have wet garbage and retainers that, containers that retain water and stuff with mosquito season coming up on us.

So it's...

It's just a problem.

And the idea, the left is going to come in and say, you know what, we're the party of ecology and we believe in pristine areas and we don't like this particular constituency who comes here illegally throwing trash and doing these things no they don't care they don't if you did i'll tell you this is a very funny anecdote i was driving into stanford university three or four years ago and i got behind an immigrant let's say

And he was obviously very hardworking because he had

shovels and things in the the back of his pickup, but it was smoking.

I mean, I almost died of carbon monoxide poisoning.

Can you imagine in Palo Alto of all places?

So

I,

I mean, it was just like a smokescreen, and I could not believe it.

And I mentioned this to someone when I got there.

I said, this is kind of funny.

It looks like my hometown.

The cars are, and the person said they had called and reported, but they had already been preempted by a lot of people.

In other words, if you do that one moment in Palo Alto, they will pull you over and they will get so angry.

But yet their policies on the border bring in millions of impoverished people that have no alternatives but to, you know, drive crappy cars that nobody wants.

And so you import poverty, but then you outlaw poverty's expression in your own neighborhood.

And you hope that they go down to Fresno or Visalia or Bakersfield or Sanger or Readley and that's your problem.

And you can't, what we discuss is taboo.

And so there's so many things that you can't discuss.

And like,

obviously, no one ethnic group has a monopoly on obesity, but we have a crisis in California because, first of all, if you look at UN statistics, the most obese country per capita in the world is Mexico.

They have the greatest crisis of overweight people.

So what we're seeing is when people come from traditional cultures that have that problem anyway, and they have a westernized diet of junk food or fast food.

So we have in the Hispanic community one out of four people, or maybe it's one out of three that's admitted to the hospital for any reason whatsoever is found upon admittance to be diabetic.

Diabetic, wow.

Wow.

And it was part of the Latino La Raza

advertisement of the 70, 80s.

Oh, we're the young we have the youngest per capita age group we're the

demography that's going to take care of these old frail fading calcified white people right

and the white people are not having children and they're aging they're dying off yes that's probably true if you look at the statistics on fertility but it's not going to be that the young Hispanic community coming up from Mexico is going to be the people who provide care.

They're going to need care in their 30s and 40s and 50s because they have an epidemic of diabetes and obesity, more greater per capita than other constituencies, whites or Asians.

It's predicated on economic levels, obviously, as well.

But my point is this: that when you go into the supermarket like I did today, and you see people who are morbidly obese,

and they have 48 cans of, what, 140-calorie Coke and Mountain Dew that's not diet.

And they're paying for that.

And I didn't think they could do that, but I think you can pay because you have Snap Coke.

Oh, my gosh.

You've been able to do that for years.

Yeah.

So where was Michael Bloomberg when you, because you could do it.

Where was he then?

You're subsidizing that type of corn syrup, right?

It's corn syrup.

And it's one of the worst things in the world for your health.

And yet, if you were to say that there's an epidemic of, you can say there's an epidemic of diabetes, that's fine right but you can't say there's an epidemic of obesity that's inordinate to the Hispanic community the first or second generation right

and these things matter Victor they matter during COVID right

very expensive and so but see what I'm trying to get at I want to be very careful here yeah because I live in a Hispanic community and I have members of my family that are Hispanic, et cetera, et cetera.

But what I'm saying is that when you censor empiricism, you can't talk about it, then bad things happen.

So you can't say that there's a problem in the Hispanic.

So then when COVID comes in, it just devastated our community and it targeted Hispanic men that were obese and in ages of 40 to 55 and even younger.

And

so

You can't discuss that, but then what does the state do?

The state says that California failed the Hispanic community because their incidence of fatal COVID

deaths was greater than their 43% demographic in the general population.

Yes, it was,

at least in particular counties.

And therefore, it's racist.

But no, there were contributing factors like diet and exercise that people can't talk to.

And it's tragic.

I was at another doctor.

I won't mention the type of doctor or the town because people be very quickly.

And a young Hispanic girl from Mexico was very nice and very competent.

And she was telling me that she had come from Mexico at eight and she was doing well.

And she was at college.

And she was illegal.

She was telling me that.

And she was kind of kidding me about Trump and everything.

Very nice and very competent, but she was very heavy.

And she took my blood pressure.

And I was 124 over 60 something.

It was kind of low and my heart rate was kind of always too low.

It's 52.

Oh my God, your blood pressure is too low.

I said, no, 124 is not too low.

Believe me.

60 borderline, maybe it's 110 over 70.

And she goes, well, I'm really working on mine and I've got it really downright, just perfect almost.

I said, what was your blood pressure?

Well, it was 190 over 100, and now it's only 150 over 95, 150 over 95.

I said, that's very high.

And she goes, well, I don't think it is compared to what it was.

And my point is that no youth that age should have corrected blood pressure that high in a doctor's office.

And

there's an epidemic there, and it's going to be very important to the country that people address that and be very honest and say the Hispanic community.

is being sold a bill of goods on advertising from beer and soft drink companies and junk food.

And maybe when they come from Mexico, their diets have radically shifted.

And this is not racism.

And even if it were racism, you're not going to be prone to racism.

And you can be self-help.

And I know that there's, I don't want to short, there's doctors and health groups that are trying to get the message out, but we have a problem with one out of every three to four people

has diabetes at any age.

Right.

And so it's going to be a net.

That is also

when people are coming from one of the poorest places in the world that has the highest obesity rate of any UN nation of the 190 nations,

and there is no audit at the border, health checks, or anything.

And when you come across the border, you come into the most sophisticated system in the world that has a high emphasis on social parity.

Well,

all the better.

And when a person steps one foot in, you say, oh my God, they don't have parity.

They have health problems.

They have

diet problems.

They're not going to have the same chance as this guy over here, this white man, 68 years old.

We failed.

We're going to, this is all racism.

That's pretty much where we are.

And I don't know how you get out of that until somebody says that we love human life and therefore we're worried about our Latino U.S.

population.

And we can't absorb 5 million illegal entries in 24 24 months.

Well, then.

Let's shut the border down.

If you want to come to the United States, you have to apply legally.

And we have the right to ask you, do you speak English?

Do you have a high school diploma?

And do you have work skills that will be productive when you arrive?

And if you don't, we're going to let people first that do.

Well, if

a La Raza that mattered, that really cared about people would try to internally address some of these important issues.

I doubt La Razza would ever do anything about the border, but

the poor health generally of the Hispanic community.

Why isn't

a national Hispanic organization concerned about that?

Well, there are, but

they don't get much play.

And to the degree they do get play, they are joined at the hip with the racist industry.

So everything I said,

if you were listening and you're a Laraza chauvinist, you would say, yeah, old white guy, you're right about that.

The data is there, but why do you think that we're fat?

Because we don't have enough money to go to Whole Foods and buy lettuce and organic food.

No, that's not true.

I just went to this food market.

It's a warehouse food market, and there is...

lettuce and there's all sorts of fruits and vegetables and nutritious food there.

And kids are going to get meals at school, too.

I mean, it's not like there's a lot of this stuff like this food deserts or

food.

The weird thing is that it's the most expensive so when you look at these frozen foods and frozen pies and all this it's really expensive processed food yeah and yet people are buying it and

you know and i don't know

when you look i don't want the awesome let me just interrupt i don't want my tax dollars buying mountain dews no matter what situation isn't that just crazy in itself or fast food fast food yeah it is and

what's sad is that when you get to a civilization,

this is a Roman theme that when the medicine is worse than the disease, then you're done for.

So what I just said, that the effort to correct this problem is considered worse than the problem,

then you're all through.

Or if you say, we're having a number of near misses,

three of them, one hit and two near lethal misses within the space of about 80 days.

And there's something wrong with the FAA.

And we've got to make sure that our hiring and retention is based on complete merit.

And if you can't discuss that, then there's nothing you can do.

If you're going to destroy merit, and the corrective for the discussion of merit is you're racist.

And

the same thing with

inordinate African, we've talked about that before, black crime.

If you say it's a legacy of slavery or it's race, it doesn't matter what cause, but you have to accept the data.

And it's directed at people

in terms of when it's hate crimes.

There's

an inordinate amount of black males far greater than their numbers in the population that are attacking two particular groups that are way overrepresented as victims, Jews and Asian Americans.

And if you don't want to talk about that, you can talk about the reasons, but if you're not willing to talk about it and even to raise it is considered racist, there's no hope.

There's just no hope.

Victor, we discussed in the past, I really would hate to think in 20 years or 30 years

who might need brain surgery or heart surgery when you don't have a society of meritocracy and who's going to be building the buildings that collapse when you don't have meritocracy and engineers.

It's already happened.

All you have have to do, Jack, is just walk right down

from my farm, get in a car,

drive five miles, and you can see Stonehenge, the high-speed rail.

It's 15 years.

It's just a monument to the lack of meritocracy.

Nobody knows what they're doing.

It's cost overrum.

Nobody knows what they can do.

It's just an example of what this civilization has become.

When I look at it, I say, where is the old Robert Baron, Leland Stanford, and Collis Huntington and Mark Hopkins and Charles Crocker, the old big four that built the Transcontinental Railroad, they could get this thing done and, gosh, they could do it in three years.

Yeah.

Well, but

not in our lifetimes will that train ever run, I think.

Yeah, it's it's so what's happening when people are aware of this,

even the people who created this, they're cocooning and they are finding enclaves where they can escape this.

And so they don't want to fight it.

So if you don't have the means, you go to Florida or Tennessee or Nevada or Texas, if you're a middle-class Californian and you think you can escape it on the state level.

And if you're very wealthy, you stay in California, in Carmel or La Jolla.

or Monterey or Palo Alto or Napa, and you have enough money to insulate yourself from the lack of meritocracy.

But ultimately, you don't really, because you do have to get brain surgery and you do have to get on the airline and you do want your child to go to

SAT camp and Stanford prep camp and get a 4.5 and a perfect SAT score.

So you can say that

Johnny and Jill, like you, went to Stanford, and that's going to be entree to all of your network of high-powered friends and jobs and advancement and they're not going to get in they are not going to get in not with 23

acceptance of whites and 12 at most of white males so you can't escape is what i'm talking about right the assault on meritocracy it's everywhere and i i don't know if it'll if it'll have any upside maybe

i don't know maybe if you get

the idea that you're just going to drop standards everywhere and then you deny deny that you're doing so.

It's going to, I don't know.

Well, Victor, I'll see it in the armed forces very soon.

I have my suspicions that when the entire

army contingent dissolves in a matter of, I don't know, 48 hours in Kabul

and just hands over, somebody makes a decision to hand over billions of dollars of sophisticated, expensive weaponry to terrorists, and then they brag about how successful the evacuation was.

Right.

People are falling off the plane and they're bragging about their ethnic food they provided all of their refugees.

And they call that success.

You can see what's happening to the military.

And I think Laura Ingram got in trouble the other day.

She said, can anybody remember when they won a war?

Just, you know, it was.

Grenada.

Well,

they win every battle they fight.

Yeah.

The soldiers on the ground are really good, but the officer corps and the people who put them in those situations can't translate tactical victory into strategic resolution.

And

I think it's because they're incompetent.

And I'm not just talking about race.

I don't know.

I think it's ideology.

How Mark Milley ever became chairman of the Joint Chiefs, I don't know.

But at some point, somebody should say to him,

wait a minute.

You're the guy that lectured us on white rage with no data, and you're the guy that called his Chinese counterpart up, and you're the guy that broke the chain of command and said the theater commanders report to you, and you're the one that put Professor Kendi on your reading list, and you're the one that said a photo op of the president of the United States was, I don't know, a mistake.

You're the guy that you told us Kabul was safe and sustainable.

You told us that Kiev would fall very quickly.

And you're still chairman of the Joint Chiefs, and you're in charge, I guess, an advisory campaign

role about giving opinions about balloons and such.

And a balloon came from China and crisscrossed the United States.

And you said it wasn't, we're not sure it wasn't a weather balloon.

No, check that.

It was a spy device, but it's a very primitive one.

And so it didn't really get any information.

Check that.

It does have some advantages of satellites, but we protected all of our incidents.

Check that.

We couldn't shoot it down because

we didn't want to hurt people.

Check that.

The Aleutians only have one person per square mile,

but we wanted it to fall in the ocean, but check that.

But we couldn't let it fall in the

northern Pacific because it was too cold and deep.

So we let it, that's where we are.

Mic Terre, in your next life, you are coming back as a stand-up comedian.

So much of what you just said,

I'm not even going to call it a rant, is repetitive to things that have been said on previous podcasts but that leads us into this end of the podcast um

note where we do thank everybody for listening we thank those who leave ranking ratings on iTunes slash apple podcasts we thank those who also leave comments and we read them and here is one it's titled repetitive because it is necessary.

Found Dr.

Hansen four years ago when I also became aware of Thomas Sowell.

I've been a supporter ever since.

Victor addresses the same issues over and over, not because it is enjoyable, but because it continues to be necessary.

I'm appreciative when he weaves in the message a current event or a little-known historical perspective, which continues to keep my interest.

I hope someday, soon enough, people come to understand his reasoned analyses so that he can deviate into sharing optimism, fat chance, about how our newly adopted path will continue what has been I'm very optimistic.

Thank you.

I wouldn't do this if I was not.

I believe the people who are listening are

that's one thing the conservative traditionalist side has.

It has people who are very, very capable.

Well, and we believe back to the Latin massers that despair is a sin.

So we have to.

The problem is that

we're all Marcus of Queensbury rules people.

Yeah, well, I don't know, Victor.

I think it's going to get, get,

I'm getting some brass knuckles.

But, you know, yeah, we're going to be, one thing I like to say is that Sammy and I are going to be talking now and then about wars in historical sense.

So I said to her the other day, why don't we just start with the Persian War?

And I give an eight to nine minute

synopsis of why you should study it.

And we'll just work.

down through history to Vietnam and we'll do it you know that'll be true Peloponnesian War War and Punic War

and the campaigns of Belisaurus, and the Macedonian Wars, and earlier Alexander the Great.

We'll just do it in chronological order.

And I think each one will have some interest, but we'll do it very short.

But it will give us more of a historical perspective.

Well,

that would be extremely popular, I'm sure.

We're going to do that

each broadcast.

Well, I'd just like to finally mention the person that wrote this was called Q-Ball, and that's Q as in line.

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