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Mr.

Brinton, who is a very...

controversial and colorful and flamboyant appointee of the Biden administration.

He is quote unquote gender fluid.

He sticks it in your face.

But he also, when he travels, seems like he leaves Washington without luggage and he returns home to Washington with luggage.

He's been arrested

for two

acts of somewhat serious airport thievery in Minneapolis and in Salt Lake City.

So

he's a minor, maybe not minor, mid-level

Department of Energy appointee, very much an appointment very much made

because of what it symbolizes.

We're hiring this flamboyant

trans,

whatever, LGBTQ plus character.

But it seems

he's not fireable.

He's done some very very egregious things, felonious things, and he is yet to be fired.

Victor, any thoughts on Mr.

Brinton, what he's done, and maybe what it more symbolizes on behalf of the Biden administration?

Well, I thought the whole point of the civil rights movement was that people wanted equality of opportunity.

And when the civil rights movement expanded beyond the binary of white, black

and to include women and Hispanics and Native Americans and homosexuals and now transsexuals or transgendered, then the point was that everybody just wanted to make that incidental, not essential to who you were.

But it turns out that didn't happen.

So this character,

that's who he is.

He wants to, on social media, he wants to saturate pictures of him in a dress.

He likes the idea that he's feminine and masculine or whatever.

He's fluid.

I guess he at various times identifies with one or the other, or neither or both

sexes.

And he's supposed to be in charge of our nuclear waste in the Department of Energy.

So you would think that the degree that he engages in social media, it would be about

I'm the new deputy secretary for waste, nuclear waste removal, and this week I'm going to talk about

ceramic Codinet.

This week, the salt mines.

Just give us, you know, that's what you do.

He went to MIT, and he's always bragging about his credentials.

But that's not all he, so now when we talk about him, he gets in your face and he does these pictures and he says that he's got a dog fetish.

So he likes to either dress up as a master or a dog.

And that has some, I don't know quite what the sexual connotations or the acts are, but it's supposed to,

I guess, give us the willies.

I don't know what it is.

It's supposed to shock us.

Okay, so, you know, you want to get, you want to make that your

primary identity.

We don't want you to.

We're not asking you to.

We're not prejudiced.

We don't really care what you do in your private life.

Or we don't even care in your public life.

We want you as our energy deputy secretary to talk about energy, but he won't do that.

So now we we find out, and this is a little murky, that

he's a thief, he's a kleptomaniac.

So he goes, and I don't know what the mechanics are, Jack, I've heard both, that he goes and spies people who check in and fixates on somebody with a

wardrobe

or a piece of luggage that meets his standards and then he goes to the you know he sees the connection and I don't believe that but then he he just goes in and he steals it or he goes to the baggage claim and looks for feminine type luggage and steals it but that doesn't really matter because

he's a thief he's a thief and he's taking things that are not his

and some of them are very valuable and then he's a liar because when he shows up on videos and they know from the videos where he went in a car and they talked to him in his hotel room.

He says he didn't do it, or he might have, then he says he might have done it inadvertently, but he'll return, and he doesn't.

He takes the bag and he keeps using it weeks later.

And then it's not an isolated

incident.

Whether it's in Minneapolis, it turns up in Nevada.

So, this is a serial thief and a serial liar.

And he chose to bring attention to himself

on the basis of publicizing his fetishes and his fluidity that he said were inseparable from his competence on the job.

So now people are going to say, okay,

I guess that's what we have to do.

We have to say that maybe your lifestyle is connected with your job, and maybe your lifestyle is connected with stealing things and lying about it.

And then we get into the final act of this pathetic fable,

play or whatever, psychodrama.

All of the above.

All of the above.

And we're asking ourselves, why isn't this man fired?

He's under, he's been charged with felonies.

And he's on temporary,

I guess you say, leave, but we want to know if he's being paid.

That's what I don't understand about the federal government.

When they put you on leave, while they investigate you, you're not working.

So it's kind of better than working, right?

You get paid.

I mean, you're under suspicion, but that's not due to anything in your job.

But you brought that on yourself.

But you kind of say,

you know,

eight to five, you don't even have to show up, but we'll pay you your full salary.

I don't get that.

So they won't announce they being the Biden administration, whether he's on paid leave or not.

But

he should be suspended without pay until they find out whether he's guilty or not.

And I think by his own admission that he took it, he's guilty.

And this finally brings up

one last

aspect to the story, and that is we see this with Brittany Griner: that

she has identified not as a woman basketball player,

but as as a black homosexual woman basketball player who then

is, I guess, posing as opposed to American traditions and customs, i.e., she doesn't want the national anthem.

She says it's not fair that she has to listen to that, nor should other women have to listen to that, although she may change her views when she gets

back in the United States for a while.

But my point is, this is that,

again,

if you want to

pose

and use your lifestyle and get that acclaim and all of that attention, and that's what she's getting because each story is about her struggles and her pride and all of this.

And then

you say things or you do things that are embarrassing to

your job.

And I think it is embarrassing to go over to a foreign country known, known

for being autocratic at a period of hostilities with the United States.

I don't know why anybody right now would go over any time to Russia.

But if you did go over to Russia and you knew what the Russians are thinking and operating,

then the last thing in the world, you'd bring CBD oil and give them any flimsy excuse to railroad you into a prison sentence.

Just like if you were transgender

and you're putting things on the internet to brag about the superiority of your dresses or all of your lifestyle, then the last thing you want to do is be stealing women's clothes.

And you get, you know, we as a society can't say anything.

Our propagandist enemies do.

Vladimir Putin's having a field day with these stories.

Right.

I have to think

of.

Anyone he could have

arrested, any American,

I don't know, I think he must have thought two or three steps ahead that somehow or other, if I pluck this one out,

of course the Biden administration is going to try to make some swap for her because she,

in American terms or American cultural terms, she checks off any number of boxes, right?

Woke boxes.

So very, I have to think this was a very calculated

effort on Putin's.

or he does I mean the new Sammy and I talked about that the NBC story was suppressed and it basically said that Biden was lying that Biden said we either had to get Britney and or we got nobody no

Putin's not that stupid he's evil but he's not stupid completely stupid And what he said and what NBC reported, which is probably true, is he said, I tell you what, it's going to be to one.

I want my global terrorist arms merchant to do more damage and kill more Americans.

But in exchange, you have a deal now.

Would you want Brittany, the person who won't stand at your national anthem, or do you want this ex-Marine that we trumped up charges?

And he didn't take drugs in, but

we think he's a security operative or something.

And that's who you get.

And so

the Biden administration apparently lied about that and said we had no choice.

No, they had a choice and they took Brittany, of course.

And so Putin then has got his Cheshire grin and he's saying, hmm.

And as Sammy and I talked there, I looked at Russian TV and I, you know, it's this United States doesn't like white males.

It doesn't like Christians.

It doesn't like patriotic people.

It prefers people who

will not

salute or support the national anthem to people people who have served their motherland.

I think they use the word motherland.

And this is who we're dealing with.

And

the sad thing about it is this is we're getting into we now we're learning this week about revisiting the Libyan bombing, Lockerbie, and looks like we're going to maybe find some Iranian fingerprints on it.

And Iran is really upping its

surrogate war in on the northern Israeli border.

They're getting close because they have nothing but contempt for the Biden administration to

a bomb.

They want us to go back into the deal so they can extract more concessions.

They're having this turmoil.

And one of the things they're going to do is they're already doing is take hostages.

And so when

Mr.

Bao was exchanged, everybody around the world is saying, hmm,

if they're going to give up the world's greatest arms merchant who sells terrorists to kill Americans, they must not care about Americans very much unless

they have a certain profile.

So, as a would-be hostage taker who wants maybe like the Taliban people they got for Bo Bergdahl or her, let's see, hmm, let's take hostage a deserter.

Let's take hostage somebody won't stand for the flag, gay, black, female, but let's not take hostage a white male because you get nothing for them.

Whether it's Mr.

Fogel, the high school teacher, or Whedon, the Marine, you get nothing.

So we're going to take a quote-unquote marginalized person or somebody who feels like we do that they don't particularly feel comfortable with the United States, and we're going to get somebody of his caliber.

And that's what the legacy is.

And I think we're going to see a lot of hostage taking.

That's going to be a lot of political hostage taking.

It's going to cause a lot of internal dissension because

the diversity, equity, inclusion racket has now gone to hostage taking.

Right.

And

whether a hostage person is

traded for or swapped for will depend on their diversity, equity, inclusion profile, a fact well known to our enemies.

Amen.

Damn.

Well, Victor,

let's move on to some other people who have low views, Americans who have a low view of America.

And that's the 51 Intel agents who signed that infamous letter before the 2020 elections.

That Hunter Biden's laptop

had all the earmarks of Russian disinformation, et cetera.

So Kevin McCarthy, who, as of today,

and we discussed this on

a recent podcast, still unclear of whether he will have the 218 votes to become the speaker, but let's discuss him as the presumptive speaker.

He has come out.

Here's a headline from Daily Mail: McCarthy vows subpoenas for 51 Intel agents who signed a letter saying Hunter laptop story was part of Russian collusion.

And, well, that's about it.

That's it in a nutshell.

I think

none of these folks have shown, not a single one of them, Victor, has shown any

the slightest

admission of

wrongdoing, even after the facts have come out.

What do you think about what Kevin McCarthy is doing here?

And Victor, if you have any other things you want to say about Kevin McCarthy and his speakership potential, go ahead.

Well, not one of them has apologized.

In fact, a couple of them said, well, we didn't quite sort of maybe not said it was.

Remember, it said they look like it looked like.

So they had that little catch.

But then it was, remember, John Brennan cooked it up.

He'd already lied once under oath, and then about, as I said, staff for computers and the Senate.

And then he lied again when he said there was no collateral damage and drone attacks.

And then he got another liar, Clapper.

to go on and then they got i think even people like leon panetta so they got 51 people to say that probably could have, should have, should have, maybe is Russian disinformation.

I think it was in mid-October.

It was right before the election.

And guess what?

It fed right into

Joe Biden.

I think it was the second debate in which he said when Trump brought it up, oh, no, no, 51 experts, CIA directors, director of national intelligence.

So it was designed.

How it worked was

Joe Biden called them up, or his operatives called him up and said, that crazy damn Hunter, he's under one of his wild binges again.

And the sucker went in and he left his laptop.

He does, he loses everything.

And this guy's got his laptop.

And it's got Hunter naked.

It's with prostitutes.

And it mentions Joe Biden getting a cut from all of these payoffs.

And we got to squash this, but the damn thing is authentic.

We know it is.

And so you guys in the FBI, go get that.

And they did.

And then

get us some cred.

Call up all of our left-wing buddies and say that it's Russian disinformation.

I know the Mueller thing blew up, but let's try it again and just lie and say that the Ruskies did it, just like they did the Steele dossier.

And we'll get the New York Times and this.

And then, you know what?

Get Michelle and Barack and everybody else to call their friends at Twitter and make sure that they go after Trump and they keep this thing quiet and get the FBI calling Twitter each week and get this handled so that Joe can get up there and say that it's not Hunters.

It's a complete lie.

So that's what they did.

So that's why Trump got so infuriated because after the election polls, listen, a lot of people heard all of that.

They heard Joe Biden on national TV say this is a fake Russian disinformation.

And I know it is because 51 experts said that it was, that we called up and begged them to lie.

And that's how it happened.

And they have no remorse.

And Kevin McCarthy is trying to bring attention to it.

But you know what's going to happen?

They're going to call these guys up, Brennan and Clapper, and they're going to do either a James Comey 245 times.

To the best of my memory, hmm.

Not sure that

I remember that.

Ah, you want to know on what basis did I ever see the laptop?

You know, I can't remember whether I did or not.

Well,

did you make any forensic investigation?

Yes, I did, but I just can't remember when it was.

And that's what they're going to do.

And they're going to say they're no more going to charge me with perjury than they did Fauci or anybody or Jack Dorsey or anybody else.

And so, yes, bring them up there and make them say that and have this

show to us what horrific people they are, but they're not going to lead anything, not until nothing's going to change until you have power.

And power in our system is defined by 60 senators if you're the out party or 51 senators and in control of the house and a president in your party.

Then you can do something, but not now.

I mean.

And so as far as Kevin McCarthy, he has one argument that I find somewhat persuasive, and that is

that when everybody's demanding new leadership, I understand it'll be so.

He's saying, well, you didn't take the Senate.

You didn't gain in the Senate again, again, again.

And

when I been House Minority Leader,

we picked up seats.

And we picked up seats even in 2020 when Trump lost.

And we didn't lose as many as we thought we would in 2018.

And now that I'm the House Speaker,

you can go blame the people who are in each state.

We lost two governorships.

We lost a Senate seat.

But guess what?

We picked up 10 House seats.

So why are you after me?

That's his argument.

And he's got a point.

And I think when you're looking at people in the House that are pretty conservative, like a Jim Jordan and others, they're pretty much behind him.

And so the renegades, Matt Goetz and all the rest of them, bigs or whatever,

they don't have a viable alternative.

And if they were to, you know, touch the third rail and go over to the left and see if they can get votes, that would be the end of them.

And so you've got people like Mark Levin, who's making a good argument against them and said, okay,

you want to destroy Kevin McCarthy?

You don't want him.

Who is your speaker that can win the election?

And There's nobody.

And so

if this whole ploy of dragging it out was to send a message to Kevin McCarthy that you better be a lot more conservative than Paul Ryan was, then maybe it'll work.

We'll see.

Victor, you mentioned our friend Tony Fauci,

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Lots of patents, lots of patent royalties.

He wrote today in the New York Times, again, today, the 11th.

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The United States is reminded of the importance of continued investments in basic and clinical biomedical research.

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Decisions about public health measures such as wearing masks and being vaccinated with highly effective and safe vaccines have been influenced by disinformation and political ideology not business of which my fingerprints are all yeah i mean he just that was very good because he just described what he was so take mask you know one mask nah we're not going to wear a mask wear one mask one mask nah wear two

cloths okay no cloth's not okay don't wear cloth herd immunity yeah that's going to be i don't know 50 60 no 70 no 80 no 90 nope natural immunity is not as good as vaccination.

Hey, get a vaccination.

You know why?

Don't worry about the other guy.

It's 96%

gold standard.

It's going to protect you.

So if you go get a vaccination, you will not infect your family and you can't get infected.

Now, if there's some yokel over there who's an ignoramus, a Trump supporter, who knows what, and he doesn't want to get vaccinated, that's his problem.

But you are protected.

Everything that he said that I just recapitulated was a lie.

And when he says it's completely safe, we don't know that yet.

And I say that because

I don't know.

I think Germany has a pretty advanced scientific community.

They just announced that males between the age of 1 and 18 are not going to be given these Messenger RNA vaccinations.

And they went further and said, contrary to Dr.

Fauci, that they can't find a recorded case of a male 1 to 18 who died of COVID, but they can find a lot of myocarditis cases and some deaths from 1 to 18 males who were vaccinated.

And all that stuff doesn't register with Fauci.

So then he says misinformation.

And we have him right after the COVID

pandemic reaches our shores.

And we have mention of the Wuhan lab.

And he's already saying that travel bans are not that important, and then they are important once we enact them to the criticism of the international community.

And Donald Trump is to be

praised for that.

But then he says it's a bright, shiny object in these private Francis Colin emails to worried scientists of gain and function research.

And they're basically saying to him,

we hear that

the CDC and the National Institute of Allergies and Infectious Diseases has been subsidizing gain of function, gain-in-function research that's outlawed the United States.

And they got around the law by going to their buddy Peter Dosix, Echo Health,

who then channeled the federal cash to the Wuhan lab where the virus escaped.

And that can't be true.

It's what he told us.

And now we're learning from somebody who worked for Echo Health, Dr.

Huff.

And we heard, we had on our show Peter Quay,

very astounding.

He was terrific.

He was wonderful.

And we are hearing all of these experts, and they're saying the viral sequences, the genome, the circumstances, it's Nicholas Wade, the science writer.

All of them are saying now,

it looks pretty certain that this thing escaped from the lab.

Now, what I'm trying to say is very important.

I'm not accusing him of anything, but

why is he

so erratic?

Why is he so self-contradictory?

Why does he say one thing on Monday and refute it on Tuesday?

Why does he go after his enemies to such a degree?

Why, why, why?

And I think the reason is deep down in his heart that he knows that he made a decision to give money to a third party who even after he rigged an investigation with Lancet could not hide the truth that Dr.

Fauci and his comrades in the federal health apparatus gave money not a lot of money not you know not millions of dollars that did this and that the French built the lab so they're culpable as well but we gave them some money and that some money was aiding a particular researcher to construct an artificial virus that had a propensity, as we're learning,

to mutate in a way that we probably haven't seen before with these types of viruses.

And it has an ability to get into the lungs.

It has ability to confuse and destroy the immune system, create long COVID.

It's killed

well over a million Americans.

It's sickened probably 200 million.

It's causing right now untold untold ammonia.

And if you think about it logically, it goes back to Dr.

Fauci, not the whole responsibility, but he is culpable

for funding and subsidizing the research that led to this virus.

And that is something that we can't still quite grasp.

Given the violation of

a restriction on that, also.

Yes.

That would be the greatest story,

I should say, greatest

crime in the history of modern medicine, that a U.S.

virologist in charge of $50 billion

in grants, and one of the key kingpins of all policy as it pertains to epidemics, was sending money to conduct research in communist China in a lab overseen by the People's Liberation Army that was engaged in a type of research deemed far too dangerous in a far more sophisticated United States with far more guardrails.

So he basically gave money for them to pour gas on fire and it blew up.

And I think that's the key to the whole persona of Dr.

Fauci.

He spent the last two years not engaged necessarily in doing the following.

Hey, I'm having a symposium on Zoom.

Here's mask.

So I want the view of all the people's researchers says it's an ironclad preventative.

I want the next group to come in and say, no, it works in some cases depending on the mask.

And I want the other group to say, you know what, as much as it seems crazy, it doesn't work.

And then lockdowns.

I want Scott Atlas and Jay Bachari and John Yanise to come in here and tell me that the Swedish model, when it's all said and done, will have a lower total death rate than the countries that lock down

because they will have fewer suicide, spousal abuse, drug abuse, and their economies will be much more robust, and they will have a normal health care system where people get checked for cancer.

I want that view, and then I want the view that said, no, you got to lock it down.

And we're going to aggregate this and hash it out.

And then we're going to try to all of us contribute to the majority opinion.

And I will have published a minority opinion.

He didn't do any of that.

Instead, they just went after, as we saw from the Twitter revelations, about

Jay Bacharia, one of the nicest guys you could find, one of the most talented people you could find, and Scott Atlas, wonderful person.

And we find out that Dr.

Fauci's, was it his daughter, Jack, working for Twitter?

Yeah.

Yeah.

I mean, it's uncanny.

And so I think he doesn't look well.

He looks waning.

I think he dodged the bullet because Rand Paul will not be a chairman of a Senate committee.

He's not in the majority, but he will be vocal.

But

he cannot tell the truth.

And the reason is, why would somebody with 40 years in charge of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Disease, what's wrong with him?

What's going on?

And I think what's going on is that

he and his God know that he had a role in subsidizing a type of research that was outlawed in the United States, was too dangerous, and was especially insane to allow that to take place in a lab under the Communist Chinese directorship.

And it leaked out, and then he panicked.

And ever since then, it's been one effort after another not to allow that to be known fully.

And he says, well, you know,

He says on Monday,

it's from a pangolin or bat.

Everybody knows that.

And then on Tuesday, he said, I didn't say, I have an open mind.

You know, there's some conspiracies.

It might, you know, it could be from a lab.

And that's what he does.

He says he's not going to make fun of people who thinks it's from the lab, even though it's the majority of you now.

And then the next day he does.

And so he's got to go.

He should have never been there.

He's been there

40-something, maybe close to 50 years, closer to 50 than 40.

Man's got to know his limitations, and he doesn't.

And

he's not, he's not.

If we had somebody, if we had Jay Bacharia or John Ianidis, or even

somebody who was Trump's advisor, like Scott Atlas, any of those three,

if they were in charge of this policy, it would have been a much different policy.

We would be like Sweden like now.

We'd have no more dead, probably a lot fewer dead.

We wouldn't have destroyed the economy.

We wouldn't have these cancers and spousal abuses and kids, special needs kids that are in wretched wretched condition and all these people that lost two years of schooling and this crime rate.

And

I keep going back to this woman in the bank who said to me,

I am terrified because when I have had one time in my life, a person came in with a mask and now everybody does.

Meaning, I saw a criminal with a mask.

It's almost a little game and every night in Fresno County, you look in the news or there's a story and there's somebody that walks into a liquor store with a mask, right?

And they're not surprised.

And then the person robs them or pulls out a gun.

So we live in abnormal times and it's time to stop it.

And stopping it means he's got an exit stage right.

Where he came.

Yeah, his exiting, though, he leaves behind a sort of a religion of...

of COVID religion.

In this sense,

you've suffered greatly for COVID, and millions of other people have all kinds of different

issues.

Here's one, and we don't have to elaborate on this, but it's just like one case of

what are the manifestations, what are the consequences of what Fauci has done and what he's created.

This is from a headline from the Daily Mail to date, and this is from Duke University Hospital.

Hospital condemns girl to death over COVID jab, mother of adopted 14-year-old pleads for help after Duke Hospital refused to perform life-saving kidney transplant because, why, Victor?

Because she is not vaccinated.

She's not vaccinated.

He made that into a religion.

He's made that into a religion.

And you can't,

and now that everybody's either almost all Americans have had COVID, And I've had it twice, and I've had two Moderna vaccinations.

And I can tell you that I got Delta over a year ago right after they told me he announced that don't worry about Delta.

We know that that Moderna shot is ironclad.

And then they said, if you have antibodies from the shots, from Delta, you cannot get Omicron.

I got Omicron.

And then they said, you know,

it's...

It's not as serious as Delta.

I still have long COVID, and it's bizarre, the autoimmune response.

So I'm just saying that all the information that he didn't express a doubt in disseminating turned out to be false, all of it.

So if you heard him in March of 2020, when he was telling people to go on cruises and dates and travel bans wouldn't work, and there's no need for mask, and then all of a sudden he just flipped.

And then he was giving pontificating about herd immunity and vaccination.

It was all wrong.

And then his subordinates and he himself were praising the Chinese when we know that they had basically run a criminal enterprise and squashed the truth.

And they rigged all of the investigations and destroyed evidence.

Yet he had the audacity to tell us that they were doing a good job.

They were a police state.

They were locking, welding people into their

welding the locks on their doors.

And they were nightmarish or welling.

They were horrific.

And he acted as if they they were a partner with us.

In the very beginning, they were threatening to withhold protective equipment if we didn't back off our accusations.

And remember how he operated?

And he operated with this huge pot of money as the highest paid employee of the federal government.

And every conference, every convention, everybody knew that if you got on the wrong side of Anthony Fauci, he was going to shut down your lab.

And so they were terrified, they being the medical research community.

They should have said,

and then people, I can, I get really angry about not because I had, I have this long COVID that I'd like to get over with much more rapidly than I am, but more importantly, I had colleagues.

I saw, I knew Jay Bacharia, not well, but I know Scott Atlas fully well, and I know exactly what happened to him.

And when you go back to those dark days of, my gosh, you go back to September, October, November of 2020, and you walk across the Stanford campus with Scott, or you're at Hoover, and you read what people are saying and talking.

They treated him like he was a criminal and they misquoted him.

And that was all sort of directed by Burks and Fauci.

And read Burks'

memoir, it was.

They went after him.

And they went after him because he basically said there's no scientific evidence that your mask wearing for younger people or vaccination for younger people is going to do much good.

And you're just taking all of your resources and you're having a scattershot, unfocused approach.

And we need to focus on people over 60 and rest homes especially.

Get them vaccinated.

Get them protected.

Do not shut down the schools.

Do not shut down the medical facilities.

Do not shut down the economy or you're going to kill more people than COVID.

That's what he said.

He never said what they,

what I got the anguish about, Jack.

On the Stanford campus, the doctors and everybody said what he didn't say.

They kept saying, well, he wants everybody to go out and get infected and get natural immunity, and he's going to kill people.

He never said that.

He said that

if the older, elderly community is protected and isolated, then the younger community, especially children, if they're infected, they're probably not going to die and they're not going to be seriously ill.

And that was absolutely correct.

And

it's just one of those things I look back at.

And they really,

you know, they really took

a gifted doctor's atlas and they tried to destroy his character.

They really did.

And the Stanford community,

the reason I'm so angry about this is that When I look at the Stanford community and I see those doctors in the medical school that signed that petition, basically asking him to be fired or his license revoked, I read the letters in the Stanford Daily or I saw the way that faculty were treating him or I saw that he had to have a security apparatus

system at his home.

And I thought, wow, they're doing all this to them.

Are they the moral superiors?

And I thought, wait a minute.

When Ben Shapiro came to Stanford, there were kill the bug signs all over that they put up like Holocaust imagery almost.

They didn't do anything to them.

Well, wait a minute.

Stanford coaches were selling admissions to get into Stanford.

Well, wait a minute.

A person in the English department started a Stanford Antifa chapter and bragged about it.

And earlier, a few years earlier, took kids out of the San Mateo Bridge and got them arrested during rush hour.

and shut down 13 minor accidents that could have been very serious on the Dumbarton Bridge.

And no one said anything about it.

No, wait a minute.

We had a business school big scandal about sexual harassment.

Wait a minute.

The current president right now of Stanford University, who's a scientist, is being accused.

I don't want to prejudice that judgment, but he's been accused of doing something that Scott Atlas has never been accused of.

And that is doctoring information in a scientific article.

And so that's those that that community then says we are morally superior and we're going to go after Scott Atlas, who didn't do anything

except the cardinal sin of working for Donald Trump.

And that was what it was all about.

If he had said that, if he was working for Obama, and remember when

the H-1N flu came up and killed, you know, it killed 60,000 people, and Obama said, we're not shutting it down, we're not having a pandemic.

And then when the Ebola thing broke out and there were people in Africa, and he said, we're not going to have a travel ban, if God had said that, they wouldn't have, they say he would have been a popular hero.

And

later people said, we really blew it with HN1, you know, that the flu.

We could have stopped that.

But his sin was one.

One thing that he couldn't get over, and that was the president of the United States called him up.

I like your editorials.

I like your position papers.

I would like you to advise me because I don't trust my current advisors.

Would you come to Washington?

And he followed the call of the President of the United States, and that was a mortal sin, especially in the election year 2020, especially from a liberal university.

Well, the enemy of my enemy is my friend, and the friend of my enemy, how's that work?

Yeah, the friend of my enemy is my enemy.

And that's what happened to Scott.

Hey, Victor, we have time for, well, I hope two more topics, but one

broader topic, and that's safety.

That's a word we hear a lot, safe, unsafe, safe spaces.

And I'd like to get your thoughts about this right after these important messages.

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Victor, I'm prompted by the incident last week in Virginia.

There was about 12 to 16 people who work for a pro-life, pro-family, non-profit were going out for dinner at a restaurant, had made reservations, and an hour or so before

were called,

they were called and told, reservations canceled.

The reason, and this has been on Fox and other places have reported, the reason is the wait staff felt unsafe.

with the presence of such Neanderthals who believe, I guess,

that abortion is wrong.

They could not serve hamburgers to such people.

Victor, that concept of I don't feel safe,

or the concept of safe spaces, and we had talked earlier before the podcast about a piece

you've read on the college fix about Pomona College and where safe space mixes with race.

But it's a, it is,

I guess, when first used, a lame-o weenie kind of excuse for I don't want to discuss issues with you, but it has become a weapon too.

Yeah, it's a violation.

It's the way you violate the First Amendment.

And you say that if somebody is going to speak or visit or have,

you just say you're scary.

And it's sort of like the Jim Crow Confederate argument when you'd say,

I can't have that black person come into this lunch counter because I don't feel safe.

I just don't feel safe around white women.

Or

I believe in free speech, but I'm not going to have a mixture of the races.

That's too dangerous.

I don't feel safe.

That's what they said, crazy as it sounds today.

But it's an argument to suppress free expression by saying that it's a Supreme Court, you know, you're yelling fire in a crowded theater argument.

It's just completely bogus.

And that's what people do.

They say, I need a trigger warning.

I can't read Mark Twain.

I need a trigger warning.

I need a safe space on campus.

What does that mean is I want a place where I can go, and it's racially segregated.

This is what the white supremacist in the 1920s and 30s and the apex of the Klan,

third manifestation of the Klan did in the Deep South.

We need places, segregated, where we feel safe.

And we feel that black people don't like us and we don't like them and we want to feel safe.

Well, that's what's happening now.

The only difference is it's the quote-unquote good people that are doing it, so it has to be good.

But you look at the methodology, it's basically Jim Crow,

as Joe Biden says, 2.0.

Because if you're down at Pomona, as the college fix reported, and you want a safe space lounge, Well, then how do you keep white people out?

You got to get a car, Jack, so you have people that are in the the following people of color communities, and they put in the little, I guess, the little machine that lets you in.

You don't have the card because you're white.

You don't go in.

And you don't go in a place

at a major university because it's a safe space segregated.

Or you're down in the college, Claremont Colleges.

I think it was one of the Pomona or maybe it was Pitzer.

And you can pick your

your college roommate by race.

Now we had a fair housing, but you don't feel safe.

So all of a sudden, let's say it's 1960 and they've just integrated California colleges and a white person says, I don't want any black people being my, I don't feel safe.

Well, that's what the argument is now being used.

I don't feel safe having a white roommate.

I don't feel safe having white people around me.

And if you're a professor at

Berkeley in education, that's where usually the rot is, and this is rot that they're peddling.

How do we get rid of whiteness?

We have to get rid of whiteness and destroy whiteness and to white people.

And it's just, it's non-stop.

It's non-stop.

It's apologetic.

There are no consequences now to say that we want segregated spaces.

We do not want these people around us.

We want to exclude them on the basis of their race.

And it's all based on this idea that we've been oppressed, even in California, that wasn't a slave state.

And we're oppressed by white people.

But when you look at per capita income, they always say, well, you have to, the left says, well, black people can't be, or marginalized people can't be racist because they're victims.

Well, is Oprah a victim?

Is LeBron a victim?

And is the oppressor, the guy, you know, in Modesto who's changing tires on his back all day that makes $15 an hour, who's never gone to college, a white guy?

Is he the victim?

Or the victimizer?

No.

So this thing is getting absurd, and we're turning into the former Yugoslavia, and it's very dangerous because

any historian will tell you that once you re-tribalize and you start going down that tribal route,

then everybody goes out, just like nuclear proliferation.

So there'll come a time when everybody is going to say, okay,

you want racially separated spaces.

Okay.

Go ahead.

That's fine with me.

That's what they're going to do.

And

that's going to put us back into a a pre-civilizational era.

They should realize one thing.

Each civilization that prospers and matures

has one thing in common.

They destroy tribalism.

So, in ancient Athens, for example, they destroyed the tribal system, and everybody became in the Trite system a member of a political union, not their first cousin's union.

In Rome,

you know, tribus means three.

There were were three different tribes.

That's where we get the English word tribal.

And the Roman Republic transcended that and mixed them up, and people could not then be represented

on the basis of their tribe anymore.

And that is an evolutionary modern process that makes your tribe

incidental, because it's a very strong affiliation.

And yet we're trying to go back to a pre-civilizational situation where we identify by our tribe.

And the one thing that I think Barack Obama, to be candid, brought it in because he took the old word diversity and he

inflated it and resurrected it and said, diversity now means that you're not white.

And that means everybody, man,

you can be Pakistani, you can be Arabic, you can be black, you can be Asian, but you all have one common thing.

You're not white.

It's white supremacy and white privilege.

And he started that.

And he said, now it's not 10, 90 or 12, 88%.

It's 70, 30.

And he really got into that.

If you don't think that's true, just remember that just collate what he said about the Cambridge break-in with Professor Gage.

You know, police are always doing that, attack the police.

And then Trayvon looked, Trayvon looks like the son I might never have.

Or my grandmother, my grandmother, when she saw somebody, she was a white person and she just got scared when a black man, all of that,

never been proud of my, all of that Obama verbiage, which was covered up and contextualized by the media, set the stage to greenlight what had otherwise been an irrelevant and esoteric and silly little dead end,

such as critical race theory, critical legal theory, the views of Kennedy, all that crap.

And they mainlined it and they brought it into the center of American politics to divide people.

And boy, it's like taking gasoline and smoking next to it.

It'll blow up in your face.

And

you can really see it when people are getting very tired.

And when you get somebody like Jory Reed, and night after night after night, she goes on to on white people and white people and white people.

And you get the view, and those crazy people do the same thing.

White privilege, white privilege, white privilege, white privilege, white supremacy, white supremacy, whiteness, whiteness, whiteness, toxic whiteness.

And you get it in the universities.

And it's not good.

People are going to finally say, I'm sick of it.

And I think they've already said that.

And then

how you define sick of it, Jack, because they're going to still do it.

You say this.

I don't care anymore.

I'm not a racist.

You can call me anything in the world.

Call me racist, racist, supreme.

It has nothing.

It has no effect on me anymore.

You're the racist.

And when you meet that magic moment, when conservatives and Republicans and Independents, traditionals say, you know what?

You're the racist.

You're the one obsessed.

You, Oprah, talk about race all the time.

You, Megan Markle, are nothing without race.

You, LeBron, can't let it go.

You always have, you, Colin Caperna, keep bringing it up.

You're all got one thing in common.

You're all very wealthy.

You're all very successful.

And you're all functioning very well in a non-racist society.

And don't keep playing it.

It has no effect.

And then you'll have to have a, if we finally get into a race irrelevancy, then people will have a...

You know, if Cardi B wants to sing something and it's got the most toxic lyrics in the world with the N-word, somebody will have the guts to say that that's just pornography.

Talking about the female genitalia in a violent manner that degrades women, talking about African Americans with the N-word.

I don't care.

That's just,

that is just awful.

And they can say that without feeling that they're going to be called a racist.

Just like you'd say if it was a country Western white guy saying.

But until we get there,

it's not going to be good because it's the last refuge.

Calling somebody a racist is the last refuge of a rogue.

And when everything else is exhausted, you say racist and you say racist more and all, more and more, and it loses its currency.

It's also the first thing

for many to label someone else with.

Victor, I have to say,

my gut would be the butcher and the baker would be less caring, probably the more.

I don't care anymore what you have to say.

Call me whatever the hell you want.

versus leadership.

I know here in Connecticut, where I'm going to dabble in Republican Party politics, my God, that is the great fear of many a state rep that they would be called a racist.

Well, you're going to be called a racist.

See, I think that's a very important point, Jack, and that is there's 330 million

people.

And most of them people just get along and they don't care.

They're intermarried.

They're assimilated.

They're integrated.

Every family is multiracial in some aspect.

But then we have this bicoastal elite

and

people that are not white, that function very well.

It's kind of a, I don't know how to say it,

it's a civil war between elites.

It's Don Lemon getting mad that he's relegated to a bad time spot.

It's Colin Kaepernick wanting a better Nike or Adidas contract.

It's Oprah thinking that she can leverage Megan Markle.

It's the view,

it's that competition

where people who say they're not white are in competition with other elites just like themselves who are white.

So they say white privilege, white privilege, and those people get very, because

they're very sensitive to it and they get guilty and it works with them.

But for other people, who have no white privilege, the majority, it has no, it doesn't, it doesn't register.

They don't care.

And so I think that's the problem right now is that you're right.

You say wealthy white Republicans, that's a very effective tool against them,

but it's not a very effective tool against a

long-hauled trucker down the 99 freeway in the Central Valley.

Right.

If you see him in a truck stop and you say, hey, you've got white privilege.

And he's covered with dirt and he's on his back trying to change a tire.

He said, what?

And, you know, that's, I'm not a diversity equity inclusion czar.

You know, I don't make $200,000 trying to spot something that doesn't exist.

So it doesn't have any resonance with them.

And so I have some sympathy when people say that the other white elite have privilege because they both have privilege.

And what's happening among university professors, universities administrators, media grandees, magnificos in politics, Hollywood actors trying to get better roles with one another, et cetera, Silicon Valley

administrators trying to do all of those people

that run everything, one general versus the other general in the military.

All of them are squabbling to, you know, it's a lobster bucket and they're all trying to climb out of the bucket and grabbing and snapping at each other.

And for the minority, it's a you're a racist, you're a racist, you're a racist.

And for this white privileged person, it's,

I feel really guilty, I feel really guilty, but my best friend or my dad or my grandfather is going to call and help me out.

So they feel we're part of the Brahmin class and we're part of the entrenched and we have certain expectations about our kids and me and we're going to get there.

And then

the people who say they're not white and don't have those traditional leverages, then they use the racist and the state and diversity and proportionality.

And it's one big squabble among the same class.

Right.

Victor,

the greatest privilege I think we all have is that we are Americans.

That historically,

I mean, we've all won the lottery.

And for folks to destroy that, to destroy Epluribus Unum is

nuts.

Now, my friend,

I know we're going long here, but I want to see if I can get just five minutes on Victor the military historian to talk about a little Second World War business, and that would be about the Philippines.

And this is prompted by my watching the other day for probably the 50th time, the great John Ford movie, They Were Expendable, Robert Montgomery and John Wayne, and it's about P.T.

boat squadron in the Philippines upon the invasion of the island by the Japanese.

And I know, Victor, you're not a great fan of the PT boats as military weapons.

And

I think I encourage folks to read, get your book, The Second World Wars, and read about that and read about hundreds of other wonderful observations you make in that book.

Regardless, the point is, it's a movie, an American movie about the Philippines.

And there's one or two others, Baton and

Corrigidor.

But, you know, in the minds of Americans who are into military history,

often through movies,

there's been very little attention paid to the Philippines beyond the initial shocking attacks by the Japanese.

I'm just curious,

two things.

Oh, wait, I do want to say, having watched the movie, I decided I got to read a little more about what happened in 1944, 45 when American, you know,

MacArthur, who

doesn't really stand up

well in your critique,

when we came back to the Philippines, and it was brutal.

It was what happened in the Philippines, the Battle of Manila, is just savage.

I know we know the savagery of the bombing of Dresden and Berlin, etc., but I think most Americans are aloof to just what happened in the Philippines, which was a part of America at that time.

So, Victor, your two thoughts

in a few minutes, if you don't mind,

why

does America historically seem aloof to what happened in the war in the Philippines after a certain point?

And then

anything you want to say about

America's strategy in in recapturing the Philippines?

It's hard to know because

it was sort of like Wake Island on a larger scale.

Right after Pearl Harbor, you could have made the argument that the Saratoga or they were able to save Wake Island, and especially how bravely they later fought in defeat.

And we just decided we couldn't do it.

So in the case of the Philippines, right after December 7th and was bombed on the 8th,

MacArthur and his staff had been warned, and yet they had just gotten not too earlier a fresh squadron of B-17s.

They had some P-40 fighters, I think, and they had submarines.

They had a pretty large force, and they were caught on the ground.

And I'm not saying they would have been able to hold out, but

they didn't quite realize the Japanese would do kind of what they did at Singapore.

They would come through the jungle and then Corregidor's guns, we can argue back and forth, were misplaced and they were supposed to protect the harbor at Subic.

But the point I'm making is

it was sort of like a hostage crisis.

It was from December 8th all the way into April that these Americans were surprised.

There was the Bataan death march, and then they were all holed up in Corregidor.

It was supposed to be,

you know, impregnable, but they were trapped.

They couldn't be supplied.

They surrendered.

They were treated horribly.

Then MacArthur fled on a PT boat and then to a submarine.

Then he flew and he got over to

Australia.

And so here he is, and he said, I shall return.

Everybody had been concentrating on there were two big American bases.

There was

Manila.

Subic Bay, and there was Pearl Harbor.

And they were both gone.

And everybody thought to win the war, you get them back.

And so that was the strategy.

And you got MacArthur, and he's the senior ranking Army officer, and he's going to return.

But as the war started to progress

and evolve, it didn't start with Guadalcanal in the fall of 1942.

And then you go and you see the big base at Rabaul pretty much bypassed.

And the force, the center of gravity starts to

change, and it starts to be more a marine Nimitz campaign.

And it wasn't perfect all the time, but

when you look in

Tarawa, and then you start to go up to Iwo Jima, and then Okinawa, the Marianas.

And so when you get into late 1944,

what do you want to do to Japan?

Do you want to bomb them?

Okay, you've got the Marianas.

And they're bombing them.

Finally, in March of 45, they're bombing them.

You know, it's fire raids, but they were doing it earlier

in January after they took the Marianas in late 44, 45.

So my point is, and then what do you do when you get Okinawa?

That's the point.

You're right near them.

But MacArthur had been very successful in the other route from Guadalcanal.

Instead of going straight to Japan, it was you know, going into the Dutch East Indies and Pelelu, and then always to go into the Philippines.

But when you start to look at the map, the Philippines isn't quite on the trajectory to going to Japan.

So that we split our forces because, you know, so we had MacArthur do his offensive, and then we changed the name of the task force.

And then it went with Nimitz and the Marines, and then back to the Army, and then back.

Not that there wasn't cross-fertilization, but

there were people by October 1944 that said,

look, the British are not going to go back into Burma and they're not going to go back into Singapore.

I know that it was the greatest base in the world, in the Pacific, I should say, and it's iconic and they lost it, but they have more pressing strategic goals.

I shouldn't say Burma, but into Malaysia.

They have more strategic goals in protecting India and supplying China and not going back into Malaysia and

trying to retake Singapore.

And people said the same thing to us.

If you look at it, going back into the Philippines and re-fighting that war that we lost in 1942, now that they're dug in and we're going to have to land and there's hundreds of islands and we're going to it's a mess.

So that is a detour and we shouldn't do it.

And McCarthy said, I said I would return and I'm going to keep my bargain with the Filipino people.

But as you say, it led to 100,000 of them getting killed.

Plus, because it was street fighting, the Japanese utterly destroyed Manila.

And you could argue that one of the reasons that we don't talk about, and that's a Wendy reason, is that.

And people say,

well, what if they had just united in a united command and not split their forces and had a huge, overwhelming trajectory right after Guadalcanal and just mapped out a stepping stone campaign right all the way to Okinawa and then

not worried about what was on the laterals or to the rear and just isolated them, isolated the entire Philippines like the British did with Singapore.

Maybe that would have been a more economical way of fighting because they did split their forces and they had overwhelming numerical superiority at these islands, but maybe they could have even enjoyed a lot more, especially at places that went bad like Iwo Jima and Tarawa.

And then the other issue is that movie was a great movie of John Ford.

They had a big competition with PT boats, as I remember.

And

they had this, it was the World War I engine, I think it was a Packard engine, big 12-cylinder.

huge, three of them, I think.

And they went really fast.

And

they came up with a pretty good design,

35 miles an hour, 30 miles an hour, 25 miles an hour.

And the idea was it would have three or four torpedoes.

They finally upgraded the.50 caliber to the Borfor's gun with 37 millimeters.

And the idea was that right now at this point, we can't match the Imperial Navy, which has dozens of light cruisers and destroyers, heavy cruisers.

But if we have these PT boats, they're very quick.

They're very easy to make.

We make them out of mahogany and plywood.

And And maybe

they can just zoom in and launch their torpedoes and take out cruisers and battleships and zoom out.

Well, the problem was that the torpedoes initially weren't that good.

They had trouble in rough seas.

And they did some good things, but that movie tries to exaggerate

in a good way because it was filmed during, I think, 1945, during the war.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So it's, and there's some good performances, but but it didn't quite pan out partly the japanese destroyer to be frank was the best destroyer in the entire world war ii theater their destroyers were fast they were well built they're heavily armed they were like french destroyers which were really good too and it was very hard for you know to sink them and to to do anything with them even if you had good torpedoes japanese had better torpedoes and um

so so it was a very hard thing that they were asked to do.

I think part of it was John Kennedy, PTO 109, and that movie that really made PT boats prominent in World War II history.

But when you actually go

down to what new type of naval weapon really changed the Pacific naval theater,

you can make a much better argument that what they call jeep carriers or not light carriers, but escort carriers 7 000 tons

to a light cruiser hull they put a flat you know right runway on top and they made dozens of them i think they made over a hundred of them and then it was brilliant because when you came up and you upgraded to the corsair or uh

the

helcot fighter all of these other planes that you you know the wildcats and the spt torpedo bombers then you could instead of going to the

just junking that second tier of 42 to 43 aircraft, they put them on the Jeep carriers.

And they, you know, mopped up and they fought on island support.

And then they created this destroyer escort, which was a much better idea than the PT boat.

And they were cheap, smaller than destroyer, but they had all-metal frames.

And so the destroyer escort and the jeep carrier were American inventions, and they were really brilliant, and they really made a big difference.

But the Philippines, we don't talk about it much because

it was kind of like

an island, but it ended up like Stalingrad, you know what I'm saying, or Verdun.

It was just a slog,

and it was long, and

it was a mess, and

it didn't really change the course of the war.

When we took

in 1945, when we took the island, we were still a long way from Tokyo, and nobody there was going to aid the

trajectory.

The reason that we took Tokyo was because we took the Mariana Islands earlier than the Philippines,

and they were bombing very successfully the Japanese mainland, and they destroyed by, I don't know, May of 1945, they destroyed 45% of the urban core of Japan, and they had mined all of the harbors.

And this was with the fire and conventional raids, and they destroyed the industrial output by about 70 percent.

And then we were having Air Force bases, fighter bases on Iwo,

and Okinawa was a disaster, 50,000 in that campaign, naval, army, marines, 50,000 casualties, 12,000 dead.

Probably, and it was conducted very poorly tactically, but there was a logic to it, that that was the next island closer to Japan, and you could make it into a huge floating permanent aircraft carrier, and you could put five, ten thousand bombers.

You had them.

You had B-17s, B-24s, Lancasters, new B-29s, all coming from factories in the United States or from the European theater.

But that didn't apply to the Philippines.

So people say, wow, it was bloody, but

how did this strategically fit in with the idea of knocking Japan out as quickly as possible?

Well,

a lot of bodies to satisfy,

I guess.

That was one of the arguments.

One of the arguments was,

as MacArthur said, you just, well, what do you do?

You just bypass everything?

So you go up and you

take out the head of the snake and the snake's body dies, or that these bodies are all over the Pacific and they're well stocked and they're dug in and they're killing innocent people and they're occupying it and they're not going to give up.

And so we say, oh, we won the war.

We bombed Tokyo.

We were in Tokyo Bay.

And they say,

we're still taking control of Manila and we have enough supplies to last two or three years.

And then you just sort of say, well, we'll just put the war on hold, just kind of putter around and let them starve or let them.

That was MacArthur's argument.

His argument was

anywhere where there are large Japanese forces and they're in control of strategic ground and they have allied populations under their brutal sway, we have a moral and military rationale to go in there and stop them and kill them or make them surrender.

because they won't surrender just because Tokyo tells it is fallen.

That was the idea.

Well, Victor, thanks for all of that.

And I just want to repeat on about the

They Were Expendable.

It's just a great movie.

I'm not an advocate myself personally.

Yeah, Robert Montgomery was in that movie.

I really liked Robert Montgomery.

Wasn't he Elizabeth Montgomery, The Witch and Bewitch's dad?

Oh, was he?

Yeah, he was.

Oh,

yeah.

They had a

that family had a.

Remember how she tragically died?

I thought she was

very young.

She's a beautiful lady, right?

She was just stunning in a very strange, exotic way.

Yeah.

Very beautiful actress.

And he was a very, that whole family died early, as I remember, cancer.

I just said, I say that often, and I know that some listeners are going to say, no, Victor, you're wrong.

But when I had a mother and her grandmother and her two sisters, and her nieces and her first cousins and my daughter, all of these people in the family had a cancer gene, and they died very young, at least much sooner than they otherwise would have.

And

when I was going through all that, because

they were dying, I'd always see if that was anywhere.

And I remember reading about the Montgomery family that I think Elizabeth Montgomery and her sister died in their 50s or 60s or 40s, 50s, 60s, maybe.

And he died, I think, in his 60s.

He was an underappreciated actor.

Yeah, I think he's terrific.

I think he was in Lady of the Lake, also this movie that begins,

like he's in the background.

You're looking, it's being filmed from his perspective for quite a while.

But,

well, anyway, Victor, we've gone way over, but well worthwhile.

More words you and wisdom you share.

I'm sure

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You just said that.

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