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So, Victor, pretty simple.

Donald Trump announces as he was expected to.

The only expectation was that he didn't announce before the midterm elections.

He held off

till after.

What did you think of his announcement and or the reaction to the announcement, particularly the political

reaction to his announcement from Eric Garland, the thing which the Biden White House said they knew nothing.

They did not know that was coming.

Victor, big ball there to...

Yeah, well,

he...

He gave a speech, I think he was told, or he himself decided that

about five things had to be in it.

One, he would not be loud, accusatory, tone-wise.

Two, he would not mention steal, the stolen, so-called stolen election.

Three,

he would tell people to go out and vote for Herschel Walker.

Four, he would dispassionately or passionately but systematically review, do it in four things.

One, review the Biden dismal record.

Two, remind everybody that what Biden inherited that was working,

three,

tell everybody what he was going to do if he were to be re-elected, and four,

just comment on what the hell happened to the United States, sort of emotional stuff.

And he did all that.

But it was over an hour and he's in a matrix that he's created or a paradox, I should say, that

Fiery Donald Trump is what gets people out to rallies.

But this was sort of, I I don't know, sluggish, inert.

But part of that getting people out of

rallies is he's completely wild and undisciplined.

He can say anything at any time, anywhere about anything.

And when he doesn't do that and he's quiet, he's not a Trump.

And so it'll be very interesting to see that he did.

I mean, even people like Lindsey Graham or the Washington,

the New York, excuse me, the Wall Street Journal, they all like that.

So now the question is:

we've got Ron DeSantis as the favorite of the never-Trump people.

I don't mean that as never, never Trump, but the people within the party who have voted for Trump, but now would prefer DeSantis.

And we've got Trump, and supposedly Pompeo, and Haley, and

Scott, and Pence, and then Jumpin, and maybe some more.

And the question will be:

can Donald Trump restrain himself

and not respond to provocation as he always has in the past?

Specifically, will he not say that Glenn Young has a Chinese name or Chow, Chow, or whatever,

or Mitch McConnell's wife or dissent and sanctimonious, that type of stuff?

Because

he's got the critique of Biden down, he's got the solution down, he's got the record down, but now people feel that there's choices other than Trump, unlike the 2016 candidates like Jab

or others that would not close the border or

they didn't believe in cracking down on China or they weren't interested in

just going full war on energy.

So his mega agenda is institutionalized.

We're not going back to Romneyism and McKenneyism.

The never Trumpers, the never, never Trumpers, they're never coming back.

But we're going to have a primary and we're going to see if Trump can be disciplined and we're going to see if DeSantis is Ronald Reagan or Scott Walker.

And that's where we are.

And

may the best person win.

I believe in primaries.

I believe that people decide.

I got very angry during the primaries when people said Trump shouldn't have picked that candidate.

He shouldn't have picked Blake Master.

What do you mean?

He didn't pick Blake Master.

He didn't say you're going to run or Alf.

Blake Masters ran him.

He endorsed him.

That's a free country.

And he can win or lose.

And if you think Blake Masters was a good candidate, they voted for him.

If Dodd is a bad one, he didn't.

And that's the way it goes.

And

the candidate is what people vote for.

They voted for J.D.

Pence, and they didn't advance, and they didn't vote for Masters.

But it's a free country.

So bring the primaries on.

I think this is all healthy.

But one last thing, Jack.

You asked why

the announcement timing.

Well, it's the same thing with

this slobby, slovenly character,

Sam Bankman Free.

Everybody knew from the SEC to the DOJ to the DNC that got over $60 million this cycle, that this guy was a total fraud.

He was a Ponzi scheme.

He may make Bernie Madoff look like small potato.

It's a $40 billion meltdown and actual real money, and it might have been $11 to $12 billion.

It's not accounted for.

Destroyed a million people's investments, probably destroyed lives as well.

And we'll talk about it in a bit.

But my point is they knew that before the mid-tune, and they deliberately delayed in cahoots with the media.

The media did not break that story, and they knew about it, just like they knew that Merrick Garland was going to have a special prosecutor.

And the special prosecutor, just to continue that very quickly.

Yeah, talk about that please.

That brings up a lot of questions because the first is the what about him and the quality or

quality under the law.

So there's two aspects of that.

If you're going to say that Donald Trump needs a special prosecutor, and we're told he does for two reasons.

One, the Mar-Lauder rate.

But while he was crafting that, we learned from leaks from the FBI or maybe even the DOJ that there was nothing in the Mar-laughter rate.

That there were not, quote-unquote, including secrets, no bombshells.

They were, and there were not things that, as the left said, he wants to peddle and make money.

They were just mementos, like every president.

And every president has a little bit of beef where the line stops between this guy gave me this as a personal gift, not as a president of the United States.

So he brought letters and stuff.

That's not going to fight anything.

So the other half of it was he was

inciting insurrection.

And there's two problems there.

One, he has been

washed, spun, dried by the January 16th.

All the bombshells have come out, and there's nothing there that shows that the President of the United States organized or

planned or encouraged an insurrection.

If he disagrees with the vote totally and he wants things to be done, then he's doing what Hillary Clinton did.

And she said,

this president is not legitimate.

Joe Biden, if you lose the popular vote, I do not want you you to concede, resist, I'm part of the resistance.

That's what she said.

Then Stacey Abrams toured the country for two years saying this was illegitimate.

This vote was fraudulent.

I am the real governor.

So people

in and out of office do that all the time.

Yeah, and if I may, Victor, as we know, several members of that committee

themselves, Raskin and others in the past, had also been election deniers.

Raskin, I think, wrote a book about Vic Cheney cheated in the election.

And I think Benny, what's his name?

Johnson?

Benny, the chairman?

Yeah, he was a 2004 election denier.

He voted not to accept the results from Ohio and said that the computers, along with the 30-something other Democratic candidates.

So I don't think they're going to find anything.

So what will be the result of?

Well, there's going to be a couple of results.

One,

people are going to get so sick of this, the Mar-laugh gateway, the Mueller investigation, the two impeachments, the impeachment after he left, the Alpha Bank folks, the Hunter laptop folks.

So they're either going to, they may have empathy for Trump, or maybe, you know, he's, once, again,

he's Wiley Coyote, and he's Roadrunner, and they're Wiley Coyote, or

They're going to shoot themselves in the foot because some of the polls are starting to show that DeSantis and a one-on-one with Biden would run better than Trump.

That's so preliminary, it's meaningless.

But my point is, they are so fixated on Donald Trump and they hate him so much.

And this obsession is so destructive to him that they may do what a lot of the Republican establishment want done, but they don't know how to do it.

In other words, make Donald Trump a non-viable candidate to open the way for another candidate.

Don't you think, Victor, that he also, an immediate visceral reaction from any number of people, not necessarily political junkies, could be, what?

Another prosecutor?

This seems like, I don't like Trump, but they clearly have a vendetta going after him, our government.

So there's a sympathy creation there, I think.

I think there is.

That's what I said.

It could really help Trump.

And more importantly,

These people are so

self-absorbed, narcissistic.

They don't understand that there's going to come a day once upon a time that there will be a Democratic loss of the Senate and a Democratic loss of the House and a Democratic loss of the Presidency.

And they have set up precedents.

And what are those precedents?

Tear up the State of the Union and put it in the face of the President if you don't like him.

Tell those squad members, tell anybody that you, the House minority leader, that they can't appoint anybody, that I'm not going to approve them as Speaker.

So, you know what?

No squad members are

maybe they're going to say, you know what, we don't like impeaching a president in his first term, and especially twice.

But the next time we control the House and we lose a president, we're going to impeach a president twice.

And maybe that will be as soon as this next January.

Who knows?

And maybe just, maybe when a president leaves office, he will be impeached.

And maybe just, maybe we'll raid his house.

So they are setting, and we're not even getting into

pack the core,

get rid of the fuel ball.

So they are doing things of short-term, apparent utility to them that have long-term damages to

the nation, and maybe we'll boomerang back on them.

Right.

They better be very careful what they're doing.

And not to be macabre, but it could happen sooner than later.

I mean, if Herschel Walker wins his special election,

and it's a 50-50 tied Senate.

Many a

close

Senate majority

has been affected by the death of a member.

What if there's a Democratic senator from a state that has a Republican governor who appoints a

things could happen.

Or Biden could get so bad that Joe Manchin thinks that he's down the tubes when he's running for Senate next cycle.

He might flip.

And Herschel Walker can win because those 70,000 libertarian votes, when that guy pulled out, he didn't really pull out early enough because of mail and ballot.

And he could get 40 or 50,000 more of those votes.

And if Kemp really wants to, and I think he probably will,

he can unleash that huge machine he has of get out the vote money throughout the entire government of the state of Georgia and help Walker.

And Donald Trump, if he was smart, would not go down there and get on stage with Walker, but he would say, I want him, he said that during his acceptance speech, but he would say, I want Herschel Walker to win, and I'm writing him a check for $10 million out of my pack.

And if he did that,

he would get that entire base that was not there in 2021 in the special election, he'd win.

And I think you're right that it would put a lot of pressure back on the Democrats.

Well, Victor, do you have any thoughts about Merrick Garland himself?

I know this.

I know you do, but for his

posturing

in this last week, calling for the special prosecutor of Donald Trump?

The whole thing is such a lie.

I mean, this all came out of the White House.

Joe Biden was on record whining, you know.

No, it didn't.

Didn't you hear the White House?

It was murder in the cathedral.

We'll not say get rid of that man and what he meant was.

Yeah, rid me of this troublesome priest.

Yes.

Yes.

And we know that he was trashing Garden and saying that he was more of a judge, had a judicial rather than prosecutorial mindset.

So Merrick Gardin has been a broken man.

He's been a broken man since Mitch McConnell broke him.

And he is scared of his own shadow and he does whatever the Biden White House.

He has the same relations Eric Colder did with Bob.

He's Biden's wingman.

He's not an independent attorney generally.

And so he did this, and he timed it not to hurt the Democratic candidates.

We know that.

And the only thing that's kind of troubling about this, if you look at John Durham, special, this is the first time in my memory we have two now special counsel.

But Durham was very different.

He didn't leap whatsoever.

There was no leaks.

You didn't know he was going to indict Susan.

You didn't know about Chashinko.

You didn't know any of that.

Even Eric Kleinsman, you didn't know any of it.

And he was completely smothered and cut out of news coverage.

The New York Times, the Washington Post didn't say a word.

And he had to deal with a

Northern Virginia or Interior D.C.

jury, which is impossible to get a 12-person left-wing jury to convict a left-wing figure.

But this special prosecutor,

they're going to leak like crazy, just like the Mueller investigation and the New York Times and the Washington Post and the L.A.

Times and the NPR.

They're going to run with every whistle.

The walls are closing in, the latest bombshell leak.

And they're going to pick a jury in Washington that is hardcore left.

And so I think that

they will indict Donald Trump.

They really do.

And if they do indict him,

he can be convicted if the jury is in Northern Virginia or in in Washington, D.C., or he's just cut with a thousand million nicks as he was when the newer investigation.

Right.

And it's really scary because we are really back to Argentina and Brazil-type politics.

And when you go out of office,

then you're a big target because they will weaponize the FBI.

And by the way, talking about the FBI, when you saw Christopher Wray

on that testimony, when he said he could not talk about the informants in January 6th because he had a meeting to make.

That was a few weeks ago.

And he had a plane ready.

Well, what he didn't tell them is he had a private American government plane that he uses for business, but he was using for his personal taxi service to the Arian docks because he was...

He didn't want to talk to Grassell.

What's the difference between that and Steve Bannon saying, I'm a private citizen and I'm not going to go to the January 6th Committee?

He was, yeah, Victor, I think he said, first of all, I have to try.

He didn't say it's the law, but as the FBI director, I have to take the private plane no matter where I go.

And yes, it was on vacation, but it was prearranged that I only had to speak so

long.

And, wow, it's so Jesuitical.

I know.

And he's been,

if you put this in context, look at the last four directors.

We had Robert Mueller, who ran, just didn't know where he was.

He was Biden-esque in his non-composment state, doddering.

He turned it over to this cell at Andrew Wiseman.

That special group of people in cahoots were the FBI, they lost phone records.

Cell phone data was erased.

They had to get rid of...

Peter Strzok and Lisa Page.

They staggered their firing so nobody would know about their text exchange.

They were all biased.

The green team, the All-Stars, the 100-killer team, that's all of the Washington Post columnists giddily boasted about.

Okay.

Then he went before Devin Moose's committee and he said, I don't know what the steel dossier

heard of it.

GPS, Hughes, Glynn Simpson?

Ah, no, I don't know anything about it.

Those were the two, as I've said a number of times.

Those were the two catalysts that started the whole thing.

So he was lying on the road.

Then we get James Comey, who came in.

James Comey went to the committee 245 times, we're told, said, I don't remember, I don't recall, I don't know.

Nobody can do that to a federal investigator.

He lied.

He lied when he said to the President of the United States, you are not under investigation.

He was under active investigation.

Then he took FBI devices on FBI time and what he called memorialized a private confidential conversation with the President of the United States.

And then he leaked it to a third party who leaked it to the New York Times.

Think about that.

And then we come to his successor, and that was Andrew McKay.

He lied by his own admission four times under oath to federal investigators who were investigating who was responsible for these leaks.

He had no consequences at all.

And I'd like, I mean, I'm not a person who doesn't like A.G.

Barr, but my God,

when Barr let him go and said there would be no purpose in prosecuting him, he set an example and said if the highest law enforcement officer of the federal government, the head of the FBI, the director, can lie not once, not twice, not three times, not four times, but four times under oath.

and the Attorney General of the United States will do nothing, then what credibility does he have?

And he let him off.

And then we come to Christopher Wray.

And what is Christopher Wray going to be known for?

For the performance art raid on Mar-Lago, to putting Peter Navarro in handcuffs on his legs, to ambushing people at the airport and taking their cell phone, and

John Eastman, to that anti-abortion activist.

They raided his home and terrified his wife and took him away in chains.

And James O'Keefe, they came in in the mid

wee hours of the night, marched him out of his underwear.

Did they ever indict him for anything?

Why?

Because they had turned into a personal retrieval service for the Biden family to find why.

When Hunter loses, when Hunter lies on his application for a gun and he throws it into a dumpster, as his wife does, they want to find the gun, calling the FBI or the secrets.

Ashley Biden has a revealing diary where she confesses on one page that she was a little bit too mature to be taking a shower with her father.

And it's lost.

Not stolen, but

given that she's a Biden,

and given that she's related to Hunter, she just left it in an apartment in the

hotel.

Didn't she like stick it under a mattress or something?

And the next time, I think it was an extended, you know,

Airbnb

or something.

And the next occupant found it and said, oh,

and so she didn't steal nobody stole it.

And so that's what this FBI has become.

And

so they don't have any credibility.

So if they are going to be the investigatory agency that is going to try to do what?

Tell us what Donald Trump did wrong on January 6th when we know now that there was a number of FBI informants, and Christopher Wray won't tell us how many, but it's already leaked out that there were many in the Crowdboys, 678.

We had Michael Rosenberg, the New York Times supposed expert investigatory reporter on January 6th.

He got caught in a hype, caught mic with James O'Keefe, when he said,

It was a joke.

Everybody was psychodrama.

They were just, oh, I'm afraid.

It was just a carnival atmosphere of a bunch of buffoons.

There were,

I walked out, I saw all the FBI informants I knew.

Remember that?

And so I just, I think the FBI is inert, extinct.

It has no public support.

It's infiltrated the kidnapping,

kidnapping, quote-unquote, plot with the Michigan governor.

That was pretty much half the people were acquitted, and we don't know what will happen to the other one, but they're doing things.

And we're not even getting into the Virginia School Board or going into

LA safety deposit boxes and mifling through them.

They're just out of control and they're weaponized.

And I don't see that ever happening until the next president fires not just the director, Christopher Wray, but the entire hierarchy.

Because you look at, and you know where they go?

MSNBC.

Or

Facebook or Twitter.

Isn't James Baker?

Well, they're right to become head of security for some massive corporation.

Yeah, mostly, you know, mostly the people they worked with while they were in the FBI, i.e.

Silicon Valley to suppress the news and speak.

They will all cash in.

They always do.

Hey, Victor, there's another,

well, we brought it up already, the Hunter Biden investigation, but let's get your thoughts on that right after these important messages.

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Yeah.

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Victor, this week,

I believe it was on Thursday, after there was some,

it was confirmed that Republicans were going to control the House of Representatives.

And as we speak right now, I think they have 219 votes.

As you mentioned, there are three, I think there are three remaining California races as yet undecided.

It may get up to

220, 221.

Anyway, Republicans are controlling the House of Representatives.

And James Comer and Jim Jordan had a press conference where they discussed that

there will be an investigation of Hunter Biden.

And I believe more fully, the Biden family, how involved, what exactly was Hunter Biden doing?

Who was involved with him?

Was the President of the United States involved in this?

So, Victor, not unexpected.

I'm wondering if you had any thoughts.

If you could recommend, well, you can say whatever you want about that, of course.

But I'd be interested if you were advising this committee and how to proceed in a public way, because so many times we've experienced these things in the past.

Republicans have a special committee, they investigate, and okay, there's an adversarial media.

It seems to go nowhere.

This has the same potential of being suppressed by

social media, et cetera.

But is there any advice you would have for the committee on how to proceed?

And if not, what are your general general thoughts about this special committee?

Well, you're going to make a good point because we're going to have two investigations going on.

And one is going to be an investigation by Merrick Barbarin special counsel.

And he's going to have the entire

investigatory expertise of the whole federal DOJ.

And those investigations have unlimited budgets.

They have professional lawyers.

And then we're going to have an investigation by a House committee.

And they're going to be politicians and less adept lawyers that are staffers.

And my experience is that

whether it's the, remember the Benghazi hearing, there's a lot of hype, a lot of expectations, there's a lot of grilling.

But lying to a

House committee, as we saw with James Comey,

we saw with John Brennan with the Senate committee, we saw with James Clapper, I think we saw with Mueller, has very little consequence.

And we're going to see if they can even subpoena because we know that if you don't go to a Democratic committee,

I should say Democratic majority committee, you'll go to jail, as in the case of Steve Brown.

If you say, screw you, the Republican committee, like Eric Colder did, nothing happens.

You get a gig.

You get picked speaking to me.

I would be very surprised if a lot of witnesses say, screw you, I'm not going to go.

And then

they say,

oh, you're going to send a criminally thorough?

Oh, send it to Merrick Darwin.

That's not.

And so that's one problem.

Then you've got a lot of grandstanding politicians that hype what they're going to say and they get loud and they have all these histrionics, but they don't act like

prosecuting attorney.

And they're not as experienced.

Some of them have been, but they've lost their touch.

So I don't expect a lot, except what they need to do is concentrate not on might have, could have, should have, but what actually

happened in the sense of what data they have.

And that's where Bobolinski comes in.

He actually has emails, he turned them over to the FBI

that show that the Biden family monetized Joe Biden's vice presidential position and got a lot of money.

And there's data, apparently, about how much money they had.

And all they have to do is ask, was this money reported to the IRS?

And what was the money given for?

And that's very narrow, is what I'm trying to say.

Don't go branch out into all of these crazy other things.

Just ask yourself, how much money came into the Biden syndicate?

Who distributed it?

And did they pay federal income tax from it?

And so, because this is going to be also, besides the special counsel against Trump, there's going to be, there's also an ongoing tax

not a special, I mean, they're just federal attorneys looking at his tax records.

So

we'll see.

But I don't have a lot of expectation because the House or Senate investigatory committees never turn out to be as powerful or have the resources or the expertise of these special counsels or the regular

DOJ investigation.

Yeah.

To me, Victor,

despite the suppression of the Hunter Biden story for the last two plus years, I kind of find it difficult to believe that any American that follows the news really hasn't heard of it by now, one way or another.

I would be surprised.

Hunter Biden laptop?

I've never heard of that.

I doubt that would be the case.

I kind of think there's,

as can happen in politics, I've been there, done that.

didn't didn't we already deal with that or it's been around a long time nothing's come of it but

and maybe there's something i really don't care personally i don't care about hunter biden i care about the big guy getting his not only getting his 10 percent but as bobalewski uh tony bobalewski when he was on um tucker carlson several weeks ago i mean there was a real uh interest the belief that these this family was going to cash in i don't even think millions i think think they thought they were going to cash in for billions.

Well, pretty bad.

And

with China.

I mean,

while he was vice president, I know.

When you look at the number of homes, that big, beautiful estate they have by the ocean, and they have, what, three homes, four homes, and the lifestyle, ask yourself,

can you afford the maintenance or the acquisition of these things?

Right.

Either as a senator or as a vice president or in just a mere four years as a citizen, which is during the Trump years, is when he really cashed in.

He cashed in as vice president, but he had to be a little careful about Hunter's activity directly enriching him.

But my God, I don't think he was trying to say he had a lifestyle that was not commiserate with a federal salary.

before he became a private citizen.

But in that four-year period, that's when

can nod, I'm going to be president someday, therefore monetize me even more.

But I don't think he could have made that much money in four years as private citizen to justify all the things he was enjoying.

And so,

all they have to do, it's not easy, but all they have to do is find

deposits, deposits, deposits.

Right.

The money is of such a magnitude it couldn't have come in cash.

Where's the money?

And did he pay income taxes?

That's all he has to do.

And then he needs to look at how much money he gave back to Hunter.

Because I think it's the federal law now is what, $17,000.

Right.

Everything over that is 50%

tax.

Yep, tax.

Yeah.

So we'll see.

But the thing about this whole discussion that we're having, there's a simple principle that the Democratic Party and the progressive left and the neo-socialists have all saturated the media, social media, NPR, PBS, network news, celebrities, academia, the whole culture malu with the idea that we are for equity, we are a equality of result party, we are empathetic, and therefore from time to time we go a little bit overboard, we bend the rules a little bit because we're so generous.

And you can really see that as when we get into the discussion of Franklin Pri.

He's on record with saying, hey,

I

these Wooksters really got fooled when I did that.

And basically he said, I mouthed all this diversity at ESG, right?

And I was a bandit.

And so that's what this whole thing is about.

And for a Republican to do the same thing, they are blasted because they're hyper-individuals.

All they care about is capitalists getting money for themselves.

They get no margin bear because they're greedy baskets.

But us,

sometimes we're sloppy, sometimes we're distracted, sometimes you can even hear this argument from Bankman Feed's mother, the Sanford Law professor with this pack that was channeling dark money from Silicon Valley stealthily to candidates.

Oh, I resigned.

It was just, it was, it was kind of on, you know, it was kind of confusing.

And that's how they operate it.

Yeah.

We're going to,

just to let our listeners know, we record two episodes when we do record.

So we're going to talk about

the man, my wife says,

Bankman Freed.

She says Bankman Fried.

It sounds one of these

morality names from a Victoria novel.

We'll talk about that on the next podcast we record.

We've got a couple other political things to talk about on this one, Victor, and we'll wrap up the show with these two topics.

One is

Nancy Pelosi and Stenny Hoyer are stepping down from the House leadership.

And then the other item is Lee Zeldon, the King-Close Republican candidate for governor of New York, is considering taking on the chairmanship of the Republican Party.

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So Victor, Nancy Pelosi has announced she

will not be the Democrat leader.

And Steny Hoyer, who has been the number two for ages, I think even

he's been in the leadership, whether or not Pelosi's been in it or not, I think.

Musteny thank Hoyer.

He is standing down, too, as a leader.

It's time for a new leadership.

I don't know why they didn't say this before the elections.

And Hakeem Jeffries, who is a congressman from New York City, Brooklyn, and Queens,

he looks to be the presumptive Democrat leader.

Victor, any thoughts on the end of the Pelosi-Hoyer era,

E-R-R-O-R or E-R-A?

Yeah, I was really shocked about

these people who,

you know, they all almost act as if she was

Henry Clay or somebody.

They just went on and on and on about how wonderful.

She's, I mean, she is,

just look at what she did the last few years.

She gave all these lectures.

about mask and mask and mask and mask.

And then she sneaks out to her hairdresser and breaks the quarantine.

She talks about sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice.

Then she issues a video about her $25,000 twin subarctic refrigerators and her $11 a pint ice cream that's delivered to her door.

She says that we shouldn't bus migrants northward because they're necessary to pick crops.

And

you add her husband in, this mysterious car wreck, and then all of this news about the break-in of the Pelosi house, it has one common denominator.

I don't have any idea what happened, but I do know that every single news cycle has a new iteration.

He didn't answer the door.

He did answer the door.

He did go with the police.

He didn't go with the police.

The police knew they were there.

They didn't know who was there.

They called the 911.

Well, the police who arrived didn't know if it was the Pelosi resident, but they did know it.

And all of that stuff.

And then,

you know, she'll be known also as the only speaker of the house who tore up the state of the union on national TV.

And, you know, January 6th was an excitable moment, but she's on tape saying she wants to punch the President of the United States in the face.

And she wishes he would come right there.

And then her daughter, remember, using her maiden name, Pelosi,

rather than her married name, so that everybody knows the Pelosi feeling, right after Rand Paul was seriously battered, collapsed lung, lung,

broken ribs, soon-to-be pneumonia.

She gloats and said, I think the neighbor's right.

And so I'm not, I don't, she's part of this zip code, this Diane Feinstein billionaire

whose late husband had heavy investments in China, who had a Chinese spy as her chauffeur for 20 years when she was head of the Senate Intelligence Committee.

And we just shot Nancy Pelosi that lives nearby at another similar mansion.

She's Gavin Rusom, the creation of the Getty family with all of his inside money.

She's Barbara Boxer, a senator for nearly 20 years who lives down, I guess, in Rancho Mirage or somewhere down there.

She's a registered Chinese agent.

And so

she's the face of all of these people, Elizabeth Polm, Samuel Bankman, Free, all of these people.

They all come out of the nexus between San Jose and San Francisco.

They're all very left-wing.

They all virtue signal.

They all performance art.

They're workers.

And they use their knowledge of government and public service to make a lot of money.

And they are hyper-capitalists and they like nice things.

They like nice things.

They like sub-Arctic refrigerators and designer ice cream and they want you to know about it.

They got big Tahoe estates and they want you to know about it.

And they like to go down to the case of this young man to the Bahamas and have polyamorous relationships and they want you to know about it.

So there's something toxic about that culture that we really haven't explored that kind of a trifecta between UC Berkeley, Stanford University, Silicon Valley.

We can talk about that when we get to banking through, but it's not.

Yeah, right.

Yeah.

As far as the other, you know, the people who are taking

George Will, you remember, did he, didn't he write an article, what a great,

a great young man, and this is going to be the substitution of the Republican Party when we have Hakeem Jeffries who's going to read the, mean that he was a moderate, and he was going to read the Democratic Party to great.

Can I tell you something about, he may have,

this is funny.

Remember the

Claude Pepper, when Claude Pepper ran for Senate and his opponent was, I think, Smathers.

Actually, yeah, and Smathers said, my opponent,

his sister

is a lesbian and things,

using three-syllable words to confuse the electorate.

And Jeffries did something in a weird way similar.

When he first was running for office in New York, he said, oh, you know, I don't want to make any deal of the fact that

I'm a Christian who goes to Baptist church and my opponent is a, of course, a practicing Muslim.

And he did two or three things like that.

And his opponent, this guy, was a Democrat dirtbag, too.

This was Democrat primary for

state house or a city council seat.

But he's, you know, there's no freaking halo around his head.

That said, he may be a presentable candidate.

I just remember him from the column that Will wrote.

And then I remember when Tara Reed came forward and he was,

he, like Kamala Harris, was trying to, I think he was for Kamala Harris at that time or whatever, during that 2020 primary.

But

he mentioned that and said that she should

rephrase that.

What's the senator from Hawaii,

Mises?

Oh, my gosh.

Women must be believed.

And she basically said that about Kerala Lee.

This is serious.

She can't be believed.

And then, of course, with Biden got the nomination, she's dismissed as a liar.

So, yeah, I mean, I don't know what to say, but.

Well, we'll see.

We'll see soon enough.

So, hey, on the other

story I mentioned, Victor, and I will torture our listeners for just a half a minute here.

So, Lee Zeldon,

he came pretty close close to

knocking off Kathy Hochl, but he had a broader success in New York.

He was part of that success.

New York flipped several House seats.

So he sent out a,

I guess people are reaching out to him,

very impressed by what he did or came close to doing.

And

so he wrote the other day to Republican National Committee members, I'm very seriously considering your requests, grateful for your messages.

And this is what he wrote:

the Republican Party should compete in all 50 states, ensure we are driving our turnout with our base.

We also need to go to all communities, no matter how blue they are, show up often, build relationships, and advance our proposals on education, upward economic mobility, housing, mental health, public safety, and more.

This means making sure people know what we stand for and not just what we are against.

The effectiveness and success of this vision is reflected in the red wave that decimated Democrats in New York this cycle, flipping four congressional seats from blue to red, the most in the entire country, and taking out the chair of the Democrat Congressional Campaign Committee, while also holding several key targeted House seats in the state.

The key was to run as one team, top-down and bottom-up.

We organized, collaborated, stayed on message, remained disciplined, and put in max effort every single day, etc.

So

I think he's accurately describing

the broad campaign strategy in New York that showed success.

You know, you wonder, you know,

if the Michigan Republican Party could have had, you know, half of that.

So he's a very appealing figure right now for the party.

And Rona McDaniel,

who is is the current chairman of the party, so she's going to run.

So, okay.

Does it matter?

Do we really care who's the chairman of the Republican Party, National Committee?

Most people don't know or follow it.

I think it's interesting and worthwhile.

And he may be somebody who is consequential in that position.

He's run for something.

He's run for something.

He's conducted a campaign.

He's run as an ounce.

I mean, as a red candidate in a blue state, he did very well.

The margin of his defeat are essentially the number of people who moved down to Florida in the last two years.

So he did a very, and he probably helped keep the House by those New York congressional seats that flipped.

So, yeah, I think he deserved it.

But more importantly, if

you lose in 2000, or you're sorely disappointed in 2022, and you lose in 2020 the presidency, and you lose 40-plus house seats in 2018.

At some point, you need a new leadership.

It's just, you know, the captain of the ship goes down with it if it's sinking.

And so they need to get a new audience.

See, I like her Lauren McGuinness, but it hasn't worked that well on the national level, is what I'm trying to say.

And they need a new person who's an ideal person.

And I would extend that philosophy to Mitch McConnell, although he knows the whole maze and labyrinth of the Senate.

Had he had a different attitude than his attitude had been, I have

hundreds of millions of dollars, and I'm going to be Senate majority leader, and we're going to be Senate majority party, rather than we may or may not get the House, but damn it, I'm going to remain the Senate minority leader.

If he had a different attitude, he would have showered Blake Masters and other people with more money, and that might have one seat might have made the difference.

Had he given Oz more money earlier and more encouragement, and had he given Blake masters money, I think they could have won.

And so

I don't think he should have been reappointed.

Anybody who is in charge when they lose and

they lose in a manner that could have been avoided, I don't think deserves to be reappointed.

I was just thinking, it just came to my mind when you mentioned Hikeen Jeffries.

Get off topic just a second.

That guy was a nephew of Lionel.

I think his name was Lionel Jeffries or Leonard Jeffries.

And he was a,

I got to know him, Leonard Jeffries.

I remember him because I spoke at Wellesley as a classicist, and he was the

Afrocentric person that talked about ICE people and

sun people.

Oh, yeah.

And yeah, I remember him.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And

he had that big lawsuit

that they removed him because he was so anti-Semitic.

He hated Jews so much he could not restrain himself.

And he went after Mary, along with other Afro-Synchrots, he went after Mary Lefkowitz, the distinguished classicist from Wellesley College, who wrote a book called Not Out of Africa, but kind of debunking the whole idea that Greece was a product of a black African Egyptian

origin, which was kind of...

Socrates was black, Plato was black.

It was kind of ridiculous.

They took pictures.

I mean, they looked at statuary from the Roman period of

Socrates in very racist fashion.

They said, look, he has African-American features.

But this guy's uncle was

the leader of that.

And he was a complete nut.

And he was a racist and an anti-Semite.

And he was removed as chairman and sued.

They gave him a ton of money to get back.

And it's

so

that's how I know I can

okay.

What George Will's voice of moderation?

Well,

I don't know.

Victor, you mentioned a couple of episodes.

There's certain people you read and you take the opposite view, people who are allegedly on our side of the ledger.

And when it comes to George Will, who I must admit, you know, I was the publisher of National Review.

He had worked at National Review once at a time, long before I was there.

But

when he started attacking

Whitaker Chambers and when Billy Graham died attacking him and his low-grade, what he called low-grade atheism, which he's an atheist, but has seemed to become more pronounced and

informative of his opinions.

I really

find him quite troubling.

And someone I wouldn't, I really don't give a rat's patoot what he has to say about anything anymore.

But who cares what I have to say about anything?

Victor, you're a good person.

Go ahead, George.

Well, I served on the Bradley board with him.

I like him personally.

Yes.

I could not believe that he

extended his antipathy for

Donald Trump in 2018 to the entire Republican Party and called for the Democrats to get a majority, which they did.

And with the majority that they have now in the Senate, and that majority they picked up in 2018 that allowed for a lot of hardcore left-wing judges it allowed to ensure the open border it allowed that we would not be energy independent it greenlighted another four trillion dollars right and it really negated everything that he had told us for 40 years he was for exactly and that was all that was and that he's not alone i'm not coming to single him out but my point is that

a lot of these never trumpers

they were so consumed and fixated on hatred of Donald Trump, they renounced their entire work, all of their lifelong advocacy, which immediately raises the question, was it ever, what were they,

what were they?

If one person can set you off in a personal spite, and then you...

you just disown everything you've told people, you've raised money, you've sold books, you've spoke, all of that, is then you say in retrospect, ah, forget all that, just vote for the left now yeah it really and that's that's a good question that everybody should ponder because it's going to come up again

uh in this next round because we have been reading in the dispatch from our former colleagues and we've been reading the ball work a little bit more intensely i don't read them but that's what i hear third hand and we know that the David Crumbs, the Bill Crystal, the Charles Sykes, all of those people, the Max Boots, all the people we knew on the conservative side have told us that Donald Trump was a Prince of Darkness and he had polluted the entire Republican Party.

And because they were of such high moral stature, they could not condone or associate with or give their impromature to anybody associated with that character.

And now there's a possibility, 50-50, that the Republican Party may or may not vote for Donald Trump in the primaries.

And if they should not, and they vote for Ron DeSantis, who, according to the standards of these Never Trumpers, would fit perfectly because he is a veteran.

He is an Ivy League

graduate.

He's an athlete.

He's a family man.

He's been a congressman.

He's been a governor.

He has all the requisites which traditional Republican needs.

The curses annoying.

That's what you're supposed to be.

Now, what are they going to do?

What are they going to do if they nominate Ron DeSantis?

Are they going to say,

well,

he still talks to Trump or he still embodies the MAGA agenda?

And that would be he wants a closed border or he wants to reindustrialize the Midwest and carry out.

Yeah.

You know, they're going to be in a really.

Victor, I think, though, we've talked about this before.

I think it's more so, maybe, or in part.

The toothless

Walmart shoppers like him, and that's at the nub of this disdain that many have.

So

Trump will not be, there won't be a never Trump movement

because Trump won't be there to be never against.

It'll just be retitled to never any of the deplorable movement.

Is that a yeah, no, no, yeah.

Never deplorable.

And there's, there's, you know, somebody deserves to be, some historian should go back and look at the, one of the, one of the first real conservative races in America was in 1965 when Bill Buckley ran for mayor of New York.

Okay, it was a stunt, right?

But it was trying to make a point.

And

it did surprisingly well.

I mean, he had 13, 14% of the vote, but surprising for what New York City was.

Do you know where that vote came from, Victor?

That 13% or 14%.

It came from Woodlawn and the Bronx and the outer boroughs.

It came from the outer boroughs.

It came from the bus drivers and the cops and et cetera, who found some appeal in this conservative guy.

The enemy of my enemy is my friend.

And

that has been at the core of conservative voters for years.

And I just,

how the elite conservatives disdain these people is just beyond me.

You know who didn't disdain them?

Was Bill Buckley.

He didn't.

But

the people who

like to claim his legacy have no problem doing that.

That's my rant.

Sorry.

Yeah, well, I mean, when you saw what was building in 2015 with Jeb Exclamation, and he had outspent, I mean, he had outraged everybody, and he had his hands on the reins of all of the donor class.

in the Republican Party, and he was going to be the anointed candidate.

And then you saw who was behind Trump.

That was the first time, I mean, it had a little bit of Ross Perotism or Buchananism in it.

Right.

Yeah.

It's the first time that people who were conservative

really opposed the hierarchy of the McCain, Romney, Bush

control.

And that was what was right.

There were a lot of things that may have been unappealing about Donald Trump.

But one thing that was appealing is

he was not a snob.

And he was appealing to people who were conservative and saying to them, you're not stupid.

That border really should have been closed.

And you're not crazy.

China is a very dangerous place and they have to trade free.

And you're right.

You've got highways, you've got power plants, you've got good workers in southern Ohio and

Liberal Illinois and Michigan.

and Indiana, and we're going to rebuild this industrial center.

And we're not going to get in an optional war overseas.

We're going to be jacksonian with a deterrent philosophy.

That was appealing because that's not what those other people wanted.

All they wanted to do was talk about reducing the capital.

I'm reducing the capital gains.

I don't think I've ever had any capital gains very much.

But

it makes sense to reduce it.

But that's what they fixated on that and privatizing Social Security.

That's not an appealing message for most people.

No, especially, and for people who,

whether you're

a cop on the beat or even a conservative,

let's say, financial trader.

I mean, I do think this cut across

a lot of classes.

You come home at night, you turn on the TV.

This is pre-Trump running.

Baltimore is on fire.

And the commentators are saying, and it's your fault.

You upper-middle-class white guy, It's your fault.

Or

not George Floyd, but Michael Brown in Missouri.

Somehow or other,

this is my fault.

Wait a minute.

I go to church.

I donate.

I volunteer.

And I'm a bad person.

Enough of this already.

I think that a lot into the.

We saw Mitt Romney remember bowing with the BLM.

Oh, my God.

And I thought, wait a minute.

Oh my gosh.

I thought to myself, I live in Selma, California.

I came from middle-class families.

I know middle-class people.

I don't have any.

You're the one.

You're Bayne Capital.

You took the picture with all the money around your neck.

You've got all the houses.

So

don't act as if you represent a guilt-ridden white population.

You represent the people.

You're cutting a private deal with BLM is what I'm trying to say.

If they were honest and truthful, their anger would be directed at people like you with so-called white privilege.

Your father was highly connected in business, etc.

But don't take on the mantle that you are sanctimoniously

on the side of equity and diversity, inclusion, and all the other white middle-class people don't, I don't know, they can't match your empathy or sophistication.

That's what people got angry about, that virtue signaling.

Virtue signaling from the white privileged class, as to say to the BLM movement or the woke movement, hey, exempt,

pass over my house,

not theirs.

Those are the guys that have broken teeth and they smell and they're middle class and they buy win and bagels on time.

Go after them.

But I'm privileged.

And that's what everybody got angry about, the sanctimonious.

Right, and the ratting out.

Right.

That's how 1984 ends.

Not me.

Not me.

She did it.

Right.

Get them.

Hey, Victor,

we're

over time on this episode, so I apologize for that.

And I'm going to read something that's going to make me want to apologize even more.

You know, we end the podcast with

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No matter what platform you're on, of course, if you're on

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And I have to read one, Victor.

This was kind of egotistical, but too bad.

This is from Chipso Tool, Chipso Tool One.

And he writes, Jack talks too much, not saying anything.

And here's what he wrote.

Just an observation.

I'm completely die-hard on BDH.

I'll listen to every word he says forever.

And then I'll replay everything.

However, eight minutes of the beginning of this podcast was commercials, understandable.

And Jack stuttering to get his thoughts out so that BDH could be in his podcast.

Please, for God's sake, Jack, write a note, introduction, and stick with it.

Short, succinct, to the point.

Period.

All thanks to the great BDH.

And yes, Jack, too.

This is from.

It makes you feel any better.

Every once in a while, I'm traveling yeah i'm on a plane or i'm at the airport and somebody comes up to me and says are you the guy and there's something about the person that i know is hostile

i have to confess that i'll say no i'm not yeah and that that person this has happened three times in my life that person then will reveal what he or she thought of me to me to you and she yes i was on a plane from san jose down to los Los Angeles once.

And a woman said, Are you the person that I see's picture in Santa

next to a home?

And I said, You know, that's very interesting.

People have said that about me.

I don't know who this guy is.

Who is he?

Well, he's an asshole, and he thinks he knows everything.

And he writes these things with polysyllabic words.

He didn't say big words.

I am sick of it.

I don't like that guy.

And I saw him once on some stupid podcast or TV.

He's obnoxious and he looks just like you.

I said, I know it.

That's happened to me, but I don't know who he is.

It's happened three or four times.

And then she got very friendly and said, Don't you hate all these right-wing, and she was a person of color,

white people.

And I said, I don't know, I don't know.

But you really get to hear what people think about you.

Yeah, well,

I like to read.

I have my angry reader that builds.

up.

Yeah,

you should collect them as a book.

You really should.

I have a lot that

are building up.

And then I have the not-so-angry readers, the direct email that comes to me.

I get one or two voicemail, you know, F you.

F-U.

And then I get the occasional.

That Sonny, what's that woman's name on the view?

Sonny, what's her name?

Oh, my gosh, the one who said the cockroaches.

Yeah, now she said that white Republican were cockroaches.

She's a racist.

And now she's after Tucker because Tucker exposed how limited she was.

And she says, people, because she was telling everybody to outlaw guns, you know, we've got to get rid of basically the Second Amendment.

And then he said, yeah.

And he just used that as an object of idiocy.

And he said, yes, people who live in big mansions with security guards.

Right.

Then, of course, she played the victim and said Tucker unleashed a lot of hatred toward her.

And now she has security.

And then they found out, of course, that she moved into this historic 10-bedroom, 10-bathroom, man.

Oh, yeah.

And had been bragging about it and showed her on TV or on film her entire layout and bragged.

And she had a security apparatus well before this.

But it was so funny because now she was saying that she was getting threats.

But

all I can tell you, my security detail here is $5.

four

right right and one yeah and and sympathetic fresno county sheriffs that come by once in a while or highway patrol with talk

uh just as they drive by if i happen to be around

yeah and uh

you know eight or nine ancient firearms and i get people that that come by a lot sometimes i had a guy in the vineyard not too long ago and

from the orchard nearby and he kept texting me i don't know how he got my my number, but I'm not leaving until you come out.

I'm not leaving until you come out.

I mean, he was not a neighbor.

He was a

transgressor, a trespasser.

When somebody rings a doorbell, they say, I was driving down the 99, I saw the name Selma.

And I remember, so you were from Selma.

I looked on the internet and found your address.

That was scary.

My road that I'm on is an exit on the 99.

So they just came here.

And then they rang the doorbell on the wall and they said, you know, and it's happened maybe 30 times, but

nine out of 10 times the people are very polite.

Yeah.

And they either want to sign a book or they want to talk or they're sometimes, they're very nice people, but every once in a while there is someone who is combative.

Yeah.

That gets strange.

And I have, there's another person that's kind of stopped

us.

So my point is, I get really,

don't feel bad about that, number one, because I hear it all the time and it's, I don't think it amounts to anything.

And

I get very tired of people who

one of our former colleagues at National Lou used to always tell us about all the hate and that we got and how much people were.

And you're the only person that happens to.

None of us mention it, but it happens to everybody.

I had a guy who wrote me all the time and said, if you're in Washington, D.C., and I see you, I'm going to shoot you and I'm going to kill you.

He did that all the time.

I wrote, he was an angry leader.

I wrote him back.

And finally, one of the readers who was a federal prosecutor wrote, posted and said, if you, I just want to inform you what you've done is a felony.

And

basically said, we know who you are.

So if you were to do that.

Oh, really?

Oh, wow.

Yeah.

Very nice of him.

Yeah, yeah.

When people come up to you and you don't know who they are, and you're, you know,

it's usually a pleasant experience.

They'll come up and say, hi, how are you?

Let me tell you what I do.

I don't like it.

I like it.

But every once in a while, there's type of, you can see what the type of person is

coming up to you and they want to have a confrontation.

Right.

And

a lot of them are quote unquote Karens, you know what I mean?

Ex-hippy women about 70 now.

I just, I'm stereotyping.

When I see one of those people and say, I just want, I had one

two,

no, three weeks ago at the Houston airport, and a woman came up to me.

I was waiting at the baggage claim, and the woman came up to me, not to get a bag, but to get a car.

I mean, find a car to go.

Does she know who you were?

I don't know if she knew my name.

She thought she had see me on Fox TV or something.

Okay.

She came up to me and she just said, I just want to know that everything you think and believe, I think the opposite.

And I just want you to believe every stupid thing that you say and every stupid idiot thing you are, I have a smart answer to.

Oh, my gosh.

And I said, you know what?

We should trade places.

You should be a columnist.

It's a free country.

All you have to do is go on TV and write a column and tell us what your views are.

That's what the system is about.

She says, Oh, I don't think so.

And so, yeah, it happens a lot, but not a lot, but enough to be not unusual.

Right.

Well, but for people, you live in a pretty desolate area.

I mean, Selma is not high density.

And for that many people to be like, stop.

Never buy.

I know, but

it's never, it is never a San Joaquin Valley person.

Yeah.

Somebody driving on the 99 Freeway,

which is two miles from my house in the main north-south freeway in the center of the state, who just sees Mountain View or they see Selma

and they make a detour.

And

it's very rare.

It happens once every three or four months, but after 10 years, it adds up.

That may be rare for you, but I think it's non-existent for most people.

But you have such a loving fan base that the people come from afar.

i have some of the nicest people that i

call uh post letters or emails yeah and they're they're very and i look at the comments i read all the comments they're very nice people and they're very what i'm impressed by is there many of them are much better educated than i am they're very they say you know i really listen liked your podcast but

I think you could have said this or I liked your calling, but you left out that.

And, you know, nine out of ten times, they've gotten really good points.

And I learned from them.

Well, Victor, you said thank you.

I said thank you.

We'll say it again: thanks to our listeners.

And we will be back soon with another episode of the Victor Davis-Hansen Show.

Bye-bye.

Thank you, everybody, for listening.