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Today's guest is a rapper out of Dallas, Texas.

He has his new album, Take Care, which he's on tour with right now.

He has hit songs, Texas, Whip It, and others.

We're grateful for his time.

Today's guest is Big X, The Plug. Where'd you just come from? From touring? I'm going to move this down and you're in touch.
Where'd we just come from?

From touring?

I'm going to move this down and you're a touch.

Where'd we just come from?

Louisville, Kentucky.

Oh, yeah.

Yes, sir.

How was that?

All right?

Yeah, it was good.

It was good.

I mean, I didn't think.

Was it sold out?

No.

It was packed.

95%. Yeah, it was crazy.
They They got a lot of horses up there too. I've been to the horse track up there.
Yeah, I was just going to say, don't they do like derbies and stuff? Yeah. It's nice.
Some of the horses are strong. Some of them aren't that strong.
What else has been going on? Yeah, I was just up in Montana. We had some shows up there.

Met some Native Americans up there.

Okay.

You ever met any Native Americans?

Like a real life one?

I don't think so.

I don't think so.

We met a couple up there.

They're pretty cool, man.

We was up at – we were at AutoZone up there,

and they had a couple Native Americans up there, and we met them.

And, yeah, they're just wild. And they have a lot of good weed, too, a lot of times up there, and we met them.

Yeah, they're just wild, and they have a lot of good weed, too, a lot of times.

Oh, okay.

Yeah, I probably would have bumped into a few if I was.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

But I heard this beautiful out there, Shibuza, that's one of my close friends,

and he was just out there shooting video, and he was like,

bro, I'm going to move out here.

It's crazy out here.

He's so nice. I got to make sure I stop by there for sure.

Yeah, it looks like you're on this planet but on it just like on the best parts of it you look out there and they got all kind of exotic animals too out there that's why i think yeah yeah native americans have the best weed i've always heard that i've never gotten to smoke any with them they got that that'll bring your dead relatives back you know got that real, they got that soothsayer gas on me.

Do I want to smoke that?

Good point.

If they bring your dead relatives back,

do you want to smoke that?

That's true.

I mean, I guess if you owe somebody some money,

maybe you just let them be where they're at.

Yeah, for sure.

Yeah.

And they had the best pets, too.

Think about it.

Native Americans had the best pets, man.

Falcon,

buffalo, eagles. I'm scared of all that type of stuff.
Really? I'm scared of any animal that's, for one, bigger than me. So, like, horses, cows, I'm terrified of them.
Yeah, that makes sense. And then just eagles and all that stuff, like, you can't really do nothing about those.
So if they fly down and grab you and rip skin off, you can't do nothing to them. So, you know, I don't do bugs.
I don't do exotic lizards. I don't do snakes.
I don't. Really? I could see you with a nice bird, man.
With a bird? Yeah. I do have a bird.
My daughter's name. Her nickname is Bird.
Oh, yeah? That's as good as it gets. I was terrified right there.
Oh, wow. Yeah, I was terrified.
Why? You sound far away I am from Norwich? Oh, it is? Yeah you kept your distance Did you even FaceTime with that thing first? Or they just brought him straight up? They just brought it Yeah that kind of stuff is a lot man Horses make me nervous too They're just so big and you don't trust them And I don't trust anything that I only can see out of the side of its head that too that too you know that's how i really feel about a lot of animals but did you ever have any pets growing up uh yeah a lot of dogs oh yeah what kind of y'all have rott wallers right now i have a cane corso i have two pocket bullies i got a frenchie but just yeah yeah yeah that actually looks just like like my dog Sasha that's at the house right now with the white patches and everything. And does y'all have a chain on it? No.
No. She's horrible.
She's bad. Oh, really? Yeah, yeah.
Can you even pet her or nothing? Yeah, no. You can pet her or whatnot, but she just if she don't know you, she's going to go crazy.
Oh, God. But once she's smearing you and she's good, then you locked in.

I wouldn't even risk it.

See, I get scared getting high around dangerous animals.

That's one of my big things.

You know, I would have sometimes trouble smoking with the brothers when I was young

because a lot of them would bring a dog with them.

And if we got high, it just made me too nervous.

Man, I had to get out of my own car and leave everybody in there one time. Damn.
Because I couldn't handle it. Well, you might want to stay away from that weed in Montana.
Yeah, I'll stay off that native stuff, man. Thank you so much for joining us, bro.
No, for sure. It's a blessing to be here.
Yeah, congratulations on all your success, man. Yes, sir.
Appreciate you. It's exciting.
Yeah, I love listening to your songs. They all have this beginning that kind of creates this, it almost feels like it's a start of a movie.
It's like before you come in with the lyrics, it's like there's this, each one has this ambiance that gets going. Who makes that? How do y'all make that choice? Like, how does that happen? But I just,

I've been with the same producers

for about two, three years now.

Bandplay, Tony Coase.

And so we kind of just know each other's,

like, souls at this point.

And so they just, you know,

they go based off of what they feel like

I would miss with in a song.

And then they go from there.

Tony pick out the sample. Bandplay do the 808s, all the beatings on it, and it just goes.
They know I like the – I'm a build-up person. So that beginning, that's my build-up.
Yeah, it almost feels kind of romantic in the beginning. A lot of shit.
It gets you in the mood. It gets you ready.
It makes you want to hear what I'm about to say. The video with the skydiving.

Did y'all really skydive in it?

No.

I would never skydive in my life.

Really?

Oh, you'd go down quick.

Skydive, bungee jump.

I'm one of those people who believe in like, I just feel like I would have a heart attack

before I got, you know, I would faint or something, so now I can't pull my string.

So I'd just rather not do it. I'd just rather not do it.
Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
I don't know why some people do it. I wonder if they have a lot of...
Yeah, the video, that was so tough, man. How did y'all shoot it, though? Did you guys have like a fake chopper or something? A fake plane, a lot of air, and great acting.
Anybody want me in a movie? There you go. Yeah, you could be in like a paratrooper movie, man.
For sure. And it don't look like I fell that fast.
It actually like I fell at a... At a decent rate.
There it go. There it went.
I would drop fast right then. It did seem like you were...
Because I was kind of when I was watching that, because usually people are really flying. You see the cheeks going like that.
And I was like, man, it seemed like he's kind of going at a casual speed. But that's when you know you got a vibe, bro, when you can skydive at a casual speed.
Yeah, yeah. When you can do it your own way.
Yeah. What's happening in Texas, man? Still hot.
How has your life changed over there? Like even in the past two years probably i mean for me it hasn't really changed i still do the same daily stuff i would do if i was home yeah but of course it's everybody know me now so now instead of going to walmart i now have to do curbside pickups now you know it's just stuff like that but as far as me and my home and my family, ain't nothing really changed. We still everybody kick it when we can.
You know, if not, I'm at home with my kids chilling. You know, nothing too major.
I don't, I'm as basic as it gets. I don't, you know, treat myself like a superstar and nothing like that.
Does it feel overwhelming sometimes with people knowing you as much? Is it sometimes a little bit like, what is it like? Does it feel kind of like alarming sometimes? Does it feel like what you thought it would feel like? Because a lot of people don't get to have that much popularity, right? So it's interesting when it does happen to somebody because it's just a rare thing, right? I mean, as far as like, I was popular in school. but then it's like after that era faded out I started doing stuff that it's like

you know It's a rare thing, right? Yeah, I mean, as far as like, I was popular in school,

but then it's like after that era faded out,

I started doing stuff that it's like you kind of don't want people to know,

like to know who you are.

And now it's like I got to let people get this close to me before I know if they're friend or foe.

So, of course, it bothered me, but, I mean, it come with the job.

Yeah.

I just got to keep big guys like him around me, so. Yes, sir.
Yeah. Yeah, that's a good choice there.
And, yeah, is it more dangerous? Because I think, like, it's funny. Sometimes if you're just, like, a regular guy, nobody will try to shoot you.
But then when you're a rapper, people try to shoot you. Yeah.
Yeah definitely and i it's just a lot of you know just like it's god in the world it's devil you know it's the devil too man you know the paths that some people decide to take it's not always the right one so you know you just got to kind of be prepared for it yeah you're a target because everybody feel like you got all this money, all of this. People don't even know.
A lot of these major artists, all they have is that chain and that watch. They don't got no money.
You just did what you did for a chain and a watch. Me, I try to treat everybody as equal.
When a person walk up on me, I'm going to give you that picture. I'm going to talk to you as if you're a normal person because that's what makes somebody want to get you when you nah i'm good i don't you know that's what set when you when you show them that separation yeah that's when they want what you got you're too fancy yeah exactly exactly yeah for rappers it just feels like it just feels a little bit more dangerous i feel like you know like do you have to keep like a emt with like like do your people know cpr and your team and stuff like that or what is it like uh i ain't gonna lie fellas if i if we get to that point don't y'all put y'all lips on me don't y'all put y'all lips on me y'all find the nearest woman and y'all teach y'all teach her how to do it but don't y'all put y'all lips on me.
Bro, you're going to have some girl sitting there watching a YouTube video. Yeah, yeah, I can't.
No, I can't go through that. Bro, you ain't going to feel it, bro.
You're going to be just. But when I come to, that's a question you got to ask.
You know, when you come to and you say, what happened? There's going to be that guy that's in the back of the room like, you know, and I don't want to deal with that. Yeah, that's true.
You're going to have to look him in the eyes. You have to.
You don't know whether to say thank you or let's fight. Hey, chill, bro.
Exactly, exactly. Hey, next time, ask first.
And then my partner's so funny that they ain't going to do nothing. I'm going to make a joke about it.
I almost died, and y'all talking about some, but y'all kids know. Y'all kids.
You alive, but you a little zesty now. Just find the nearest woman.
Find the nearest woman for me. I don't care how old she is.
Just find the nearest woman, please. Yeah, that's what I just wonder.
I think I would keep, if I was in the rapper, I would have somebody bow and arrow, somebody with a couple choppers on them, everything. Dracos, everything.
Guns, fucking. The little ninja thing.
Yeah, fucking. Hell, bro.
Magic metal, fucking ninja stars, all of that shit, boy. I mean, you just pray for the best.
X, I would have everything, bro. I'd have somebody just walking around, look like they were in one of those video games where they have all the weapons behind them like that.
Like when they get ready to go to war, they pack all of the weapons, but then they don't use none of them. Yeah, I know.
Even cops now, they got so many things on them. They got a taser.
They got a gun. They got a slingshot.
They got a pepper spray. They got a fucking thing of marbles.
They got all kind of shit on them, bro. You'll see.
I've never seen an officer with a bag of marbles. But they got so many things now, bro.
He got a camera. They got a little spatula.
You know, a thing of just breath mints. Dude, he's just shooting Mentos at people.
You know, they got... I couldn't even imagine running around with all that stuff on me now.
Yeah, they do. They got to chase people down.
Yeah, that's crazy. On top of the vets.
That's already happening. Yeah, they're built like a 7-Eleven, and they got to run around and chase everybody down.
It's too much. Everybody would get away from me if I was the police.
I'll catch you eventually. Hey, I'll catch you in the future.
Yeah, now let me see you again. Because I wouldn't, you know.
Did you, what was like a first job that you had man my first ever job was taco cabana i was 16 i was getting paid seven i was supposed to get paid 725 but when i started working my first day he said 725 no you're too good of a worker i pay you 750 really and i just thought i was that guy. $750? Woo! That was my first ever check.
My first check was like $200, two weeks work. Bro, when you got that first check, it was nice, huh? No, I was so upset.
It was like $200, $300, two weeks of work. Yeah, I was so mad.
But I kept going. I kept going.
And how long were you in over there at the Cabana? Maybe like a month, a month and a half. Damn, you didn't keep going at all, man.
I've never had a job over four or five months. Really? What was it about it, you think? Did y'all have some, like, was it contractual issues? What was the deal over there? As bad as it sounds, it's just something about somebody telling me what to do.

You know what I'm saying?

Especially in that aspect, it's like you're not even the big dog.

You work for them just like I work for them, and you're sitting here telling me what to do.

Exactly.

I just always felt like I watched my mom and my pops growing up.

They were entrepreneurs, so they was their own bosses.

And here I am working at Taco Cabana getting paid $ when I would rather be my own boss yeah so I think that's probably me having that first job is probably what made me start wanting to do stuff to just be my own entity my own boss because that was horrible having somebody telling you when to come in telling you what to do at the job job. I just, I couldn't do it.
Yeah. I couldn't do it.
And was any of the food pretty good, or was it like? Yeah, yeah, they used to have this little, I don't even know what the bowl was called, but it's like a bowl shell. Like, it's a bowl, but it's like the bowl is a shell.
And inside of that, you got like your meats, your guacamole, your, beans I like all that you can just crush the bowl exactly hey whoever's doing that is doing a great job oh we about to pay that dude $7.50 an hour I'll tell you that we keep it in get a new job that does look good that's like a little magic hat or something filled with a down.

A little Thanksgiving and a little Mexican Thanksgiving in there.

That was my, every time I would leave work, that's what I was taking with me.

Yeah.

Cabana bowl.

And what y'all had dessert choices up there too?

Soapapillas.

Oh, yeah.

Soapapillas.

God, bro.

With ice cream with them?

Not ice cream, but like it's some little icing at the head.

I love those.

But yeah, soapapillas.

That was my first time ever having a soapapilla was at that job.

Thank you. with ice cream with them? Not ice cream, but like, it's some little ice cream at the head.
I love those. But yeah, so for me, it's gonna, cause that was my first time ever having a soap opera was at that job.
And my favorite thing to make there. Yeah? You just gotta drop it in some grease, come out, like the little perfect little square thing, dip it in the sauce, you could.
Oh yeah. And y'all could smoke on the job, was that allowed or not? No.
And this was, I was a football player at that time, so wasn't really just smoking i ain't i was i was on the hose mode other stuff see whenever i had jobs is when i was kind of like on a different path whenever i didn't have a job it was a different path i was trying to be my own boss at that time so what was uh you said one of your folks they had their own had their own business. What was their business they had? I mean, it wasn't nothing that you could write off on your taxes.
You could do taxes and whatnot. Yeah, yeah.
And they paid the bills. They got the bills paid.
Nobody fell out of W-9. Nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah.
Nah. But the bills was paid.
It was closed on my back and it was, you know, it was a roof over my head, so I can't complain about it. Yeah, not at all, man.
Are your parents still married or no? No. They was broke up before I even came out the womb.
Oh, wow. But, you know, they're still good friends.
They both helped take care of me. Made me the man I am today.
So, I mean, it worked out for me. When you had, because you have how many children? You said you have one daughter.
Yeah, I have a newborn little girl. She's about to be eight months.
And I got a little boy. He's about to be six.
Nice. Yeah, yeah.
Oh, I think I saw one of your videos maybe. Yeah, my little boy, yeah.
That's my dog right there. Is he cool? Yeah.
Yeah, what does he like to do? Cause havoc. So my little boy got autism.
So he's just real. He's him, you know? He's the one.
He'll sit here and be quiet one moment, and the next moment he trying to take something from you and run around with it. He just, he a character, man.
He's his own entity within himself. Yeah, Carter.
Oh, he's a handsome guy. Just like his daddy.
Yeah. But yeah.
What, if he has, so autism, does he have like, is it almost really interesting having a child with autism? Because it almost seems like it's more of a complex relationship or something. they're actually, they're actually some of the smartest kids in the world, smartest people in the world.
Oh, yeah. Elon Musk had all those guys out of autism, the guys that are making all the machinery now.
You've got to have autism to even get a damn job at somebody's joint. So with him, it's more like his speech.
I could tell him, turn on the TV. I could ask him what you want to watch.
He can point it out. It's just his speech.
It's like his words are out of the way to you. But if you tell him, I love you, he'll say, I love you.
watch, he can point it out, it's just his speech, like his words are not auto-indicated. But if you tell him I love you, he'll say I love you, like he can repeat anything you say, whether it's good or bad he can repeat it.
It's just like he can't put it all together himself, you know what I'm saying, but he's normal as could be, he's smart as I don't know what. Any kid that knows how to jump a fence, you see what I'm saying, to go get in the pool That knows how to say I want to go to dad's house And then when he gets to dad's house Say pool Like I only came here for the pool That's the only reason I came He knows how to get in I done had to put thumbprint codes On my pantries Cause when he was with his mommy He eats like a lot of organic foods And you know when he come to that house you got the good snacks so now he know how to get in my pantry and climb up yeah he Carter is a character but that's my dog man that's my dog were you scared about having children when you was gonna have them like cause I you know I would like to have children I don't have any yet but I would like to have some but sometimes I'm like man is it just is it just going to be such a big change? I mean, you got to leave a legacy.
I grew up in big families. So on my dad's side, whenever we did Christmas together, everybody was spending the night at Grandma's house.
My granny got, I got what, one, two, three. My granny got five kids.
My dad got six kids. You know what I'm saying? So that just, it's just big over there.
And on my mom's side, everybody just got kids. So I just grew up in a big family.
So I knew I always wanted a big family. I didn't think I was going to start as early as I did.
But I really feel like I'm doing better because my mom and my dad, they was, was 15 my dad you see what I'm saying so yeah a lot of we had in our yeah in our town a lot of the young a lot of the sisters they got a little bit pregnant early yeah yeah yeah you didn't even we didn't even know we thought a lot of them just got kind of thick or whatever like one summer or whatever and then we were like damn everybody's thick all of a sudden yeah everybody got that baby yeah and everybody had it then they all had a baby yeah they had a lot of them babies in our area um yeah i think that would be the wild thing dude so were you already rapping when you when you uh had your son no wow so was it kind of nervous like how I'm going to take care of him or it wasn't like it was? I was sleeping. I was at my granny house sleeping on the couch.
I had just got a job at UPS. Oh, yeah.
They got good benefits over there. No, man.
Not unless you're a manager or like something to that sort. Or you got to work there a certain amount of time.
It's not good. It's not good.
But, yeah, I had just, I was staying in Austin, Texas. Whenever I went to school, got kicked out of school, I went to stay to Austin, Texas with the mother of Carter.
And, I went to jail, got out. Where she was staying at, I was, I wasn't supposed to go to no more.
Oh, you had a restraining order? Yeah, I had a restraining order from the apartment complex because what I had did was in the apartment complex. Okay.
So when I got out, we did what we did. The one last time I left to go back to Dallas, she caught me three months later telling me that she was pregnant.
Wow. I said, I'm asleep on the couch in my granny house.
All I could tell was, all right, babe, I'm finna move you out here.

I'm on somebody's couch right now.

You can come sleep on this couch with me, but I'm going to get this right.

Yeah.

She came.

I think she slept on the couch with me maybe two, three weeks.

Damn.

And then I had her cell apartment.

There wasn't no furniture.

The first week or two we slept on the- Oh, she don't need to tell the lap.

What?

On a pallet on the floor.

I'll be the chair.

You'll be the chair. Take turns.
Exactly. But we made it work.
Wow. That's wild, man.
That takes some commitment, huh? Yeah, that's why she's forever taken care of. We're not even together now.
She got everything she can think of. You know what I'm saying? Tom's 10.
You have a lot of respect for her at 7th. For sure, for sure.
If it wasn't for her, I probably wouldn't be here. Yeah.
And that's just me being honest. What did you go to jail? Did you say you went to jail? What did you go to jail for? Well, how about this? What were the holidays like in jail? What holiday did I spend in jail? Did I spend the holidays? I think I spent, no, I did.
I spent Thanksgiving in jail. Oh, yeah.
What's it like? Do people get up early? Is there anything special like on that? You know what? I think about it though. I was in solitary confinement though for that Thanksgiving.
So boom. No, no, no.
Yeah, yeah, I was. I was.
Yeah, I was. So it was just a bunch of screaming from door to door.
Would you just hear people's voices? Do people at least sing like a...

I mean, there's people that sit there that's actually crazy.

You know what I'm saying?

So they actually do scream and do all the other stuff.

But they scream anything special because it's Thanksgiving?

That's what I'm wondering, I guess.

Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

I was screaming something special on the day I got out.

It was a Tuesday.

The day I was supposed to go to court, it was a Tuesday.

So when I woke up to take my shower, I was just, I was singing. Singing.
Tuesday. Tuesday.
Like if you've ever seen Norby, he was in the shower knowing that he had to go to the water park with an old girl on a Tuesday. That's exactly how it was.
Everybody that was in that room was just dying laughing. It was a happy day.
Yeah, it was a happy a happy day. Wow.
So, yeah, Thanksgiving. What about Halloween? Were you in there? Nah.

Nah, Halloween I was out.

Thanksgiving, yeah.

So, do y'all get a special meal or like is there any...

I mean, yeah, they give you

a little scoop of dressing and that,

but it's just not the same as...

Do y'all go around the table and say what you're thankful

for or anything like that? Nah.

I doubt that's how it went. You see, there you go.
Aw, who are those guys? I don't know them. Oh.
I don't know them. Yeah, look, I mean, it definitely, yeah, it seems, yeah, I guess it wouldn't be the best, like, it wouldn't be the best.
Like, really, holidays in jail, I feel like they're not really celebrated because that's the time where everybody wishes that they was with their family. You know what I'm saying? So that's when everybody – it's kind of intense because everybody is upset.
Everybody want to be with their kids, their moms. You know what I'm saying? So everybody just kind of try to get through the day.
Yeah, that's a good point. I've never thought about that.
You kind of almost pretend like it's not that day. Exactly.
Did they have, of gay activity in jail Did you see any of it Or you hear about it Sometimes on the internet There was one gay Experience for me in jail And it was an older dude That had He was in there From stealing a bunch of Wood from Home Depot Damn Probably gonna build him A little gay hut I don't know But he had been in there A little cess shack He had been in there I don't think nobody knew that he was like that or whatever, but you could tell he had been down a lot. He done went to jail a bunch of times.
Yeah, yeah. And there was a guy that came in there that was a dentist, but he was a member of the LGBTQ community.
Okay. And he came in with nothing.
He was from, this is right when. He was a dentist? Yeah, but he was illegal dentist.
You see what I'm saying? Like, so he knew how to do teeth, but he didn't have. He didn't have a storefront.
Or the paperwork or anything. He just, you know what I'm saying? Exactly.
He just knew how to do. But he was from, he was from Mexico.
This is when they were, this is when the whole ice situation was going on and they were catching a bunch of the illegals and sending them back.

And so my pal was a bunch of illegals, and he was one of the illegals, but he just happened to be a part of the LGBT, you know what I'm saying?

Right, he was a gay gentleman, but he also did dental?

He did dental.

And he would do dental in the?

No, no, no, that's how he got arrested.

When he got pulled over, he had a bunch of dentist equipment and dentist stuff in his trunk, and there was no license. Wow.
Yeah. So that's what got him.
But then on top of that, like I said, he was illegal. Yeah.
But yeah, he didn't have nothing. And the old school, he had some stuff.
And so he just basically took care of him him and he had to take care of him. So it was just kind of like a prison, kind of a love story almost.
Exactly. And we weren't even in prison.
We were just in jail. But that messed me up, though.
Yeah. That messed me up.
Yeah, but even then, at least you get to see somebody having some romance. I guess that was almost...
I didn't see anything. Yeah.
Or you get to, or I guess it's, yeah, I don't know. I didn't see anything.
I just, you know, you kind of put two and two together. But you start to put two and two together.
Exactly. But I bet some people get a little bit envious.
Like, at least he got somebody, you know? I mean, I, hey, I don't know. I didn't think that way.
Yeah. I just, you know.
Me neither, dude. I just, but if, yeah, but that's love is love though love though yeah if people are in for a long time I could see how if somebody's in for a long time and they're not going to get out they say I'm just going to have to figure this out over here and call I mean if you're in jail for the if you're in prison for the rest of your life no I can't even say that because then that insinuation if I was to ever go to prison For the rest of my life Yeah yeah so I don't know We're here now Yeah yeah Happy Thanksgiving Happy Thanksgiving Wow man Yeah I guess I wonder What the holidays are like In there and stuff like that But Is there anything that you missed Wait what's the difference Between jail and prison I've never been to prison So i can't really tell you how how bad prison get but from what i've heard it's just i mean you gotta it's it's see jail you possibly going home you know i'm saying like you you can go home prison you know you're there for a little bit so that's when it's more hostile it's more gangs know what I'm saying? That's where that stuff takes a play in.
Like the gang wars and then the racial stuff, that stuff is real in prison. I would hate all that.
Some people say that the feds is better than prison just because I have the strength. It's for one, I guess a lot more people with money there.
So there's just a lot more stuff there like tablets you know I mean everybody got tablets now even in prison they got tablets but it's just you know what I'm saying for a while swings, recess type shit, outdoor stuff. I've never been to prison I've never been to the feds so I don't know I'm just going off of what I've been told but I know if jail suck prison gotta be worse And the feds gotta be worse than that

Damn

But if I ever go down and do some time

I'd rather go to the feds

Because they just look like they're not free

But they're freer

A little more relaxed

I don't know if I'm gonna ever go to prison or not

I mean

Overall I would hope I didn't

But don't fucking try me

Yeah no for sure

So, let's go. don't know if i'm gonna ever go to prison or not i mean i you know overall i would probably i would hope i didn't yeah but don't fucking try me yeah no for sure so that's how i think about some of that they say first impressions are important what about lasting impressions that's where blue chew comes in blue chewer helps give men longer lasting and stronger erections so you can perform at your very best, big boy.
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Like what do you think gave you like such a good like at least kept you some motivation so you said like you learned that okay i don't really like working for somebody else right and um i know that you played football for a while when did you like think like then rap is something i have to do did it just kind of turn on for you i mean i think you're obviously a good communicator so you have that that was built into you when did it start to become lyrical for you? I mean, I think you're obviously a good communicator. So you have that that was built into you.
When did it start to become lyrical for you? So, remember I told you I was in solitary confinement for Thanksgiving. I had missed my son's first birthday, being in jail.
And so when I got out, I knew I never wanted to work a real job, obviously. And on top of that, when I got out,

I just couldn't do what I was doing no more.

Like all the street activity I was doing,

I had made a promise to my son that like,

you'll never not see your dad again.

I'll never miss another birthday.

I'll never miss another anything,

even though I kinda told a story,

because here I am here and he's in Texas,

you know what I'm saying?

But this is me doing what I gotta do to benefit him.

You know what I'm saying? But, yeah, yeah, so I got out, made the promises to him, and so I just had to figure it out. He's not my artist, but he also my cousin, and was just a good friend at the time.
He just was like, he'd been rapping since he was nine years old. He's your real cousin? Yeah.
And so he had been telling me forever, you need to rap, you need to rap, because we would do like little freestyle sessions and whatnot, and I would freestyle, and it would be a group of us. But he would just look at me and be like, bro, you need to rap for real.
But I'm like, bro, you've been rapping since nine years old, and you ain't blew up yet. Why would I do that? Yeah, we're not going to listen to you.
Exactly. But whenever I got out, and I just really't have nothing else, you know what I'm saying? Like what I was saying, I was really trying to live up to that promise that I made to my son.
So whenever he was like rap, I was like, all right, babe. And I tried it, did maybe like three songs.
I liked the feedback I got from, you know what I'm saying, just from our friend group. Then it went past that to just people that we knew from school.
Then it went from that to people that we didn't know. And so I was just like, okay, just doing something.
So you just gave it to friends first? Was it even like close friends? Or do you have like enough confidence? You're like, all right, I'm going to put this. I'm going to.
I mean, of course, I just, I didn't even know how to drop music. Ro told me DistroKid, I just went through distro kit.
But like I said, when I was dropping them, I was just telling my immediate friend group. But then when I started noticing that I was getting tags and stuff from people that I didn't know.
That's wild, huh? Yeah, I was like okay, it's doing a little something. It's doing a little something.
Then just to walk around my own city and everybody know me. I go in any club.
Everybody knew me. I was like, all right, this is really happening.
That's crazy. Yeah, then I got my first deal in like six months, my first distribution deal.
It was under six months. So once that happened, I just went from there.
I just, I seen I had made a little bag off of it.

Because I done touched a lot of money in my life, but I ain't never touched nothing.

Like, I've never had $100,000 sitting in my hand at one point in time.

Yeah.

And when I did that distribution deal, I had that.

And so I was like, me doing something non-illegal, I just touched $100,000 at one time.

You must have been like, dang, this is it. Yeah.
And then like three months later, I was broke. Would you get a water slot or something? No, I just was, you know, doing for everybody.
Everybody buy some wild shit when they get a little bit of money. I didn't have no big chains.
I didn't even want no chains. To this day, I wouldn't have this chain if they wouldn't tell me, bro, you got an image that you gotta uphold.

You're the biggest rapper in Texas.

You can't, but I don't,

I never cared about none of that at first.

I kind of got addicted after I started paying for it.

Oh yeah, you get some nice carpet or whatever.

You get a rug, a nice table.

You start buying all kinds of shit and lamps.

Exactly, exactly.

Silverware with your name on it.

Yeah, yeah, so with my name on it, it's crazy.

But no, yeah.

So I had the smallest chains.

Thank you. kind of shit, lamps, silverware with your name on it.
Yeah, yeah, so with my name on it, it's crazy. But no, yeah.
So I had the smallest chains. I just was doing for people around me.
I go in the mall. I couldn't even find nothing for me to wear in the mall.
I would go to the mall to buy shoes and just tell my friends, hey, y'all get whatever y'all want. Oh, that's good.
You know what I'm saying? Like my mama, anytime she would ask for anything, giving it to her, my pops, anything, I was just doing it. You know what I'm saying? Then I looked up one day and I was down to like $25,000.
I was like, oh shit. It goes fast too.
And you got to pay taxes. You don't even think about that.
And I didn't think about none of that. I didn't think about none of that.
And so I just had to, I really just put my foot down and grind it and I got it all back. And then next thing I know, that 100 went to – we went crazy after that.
So I'm independent, so all my money come to me. Hell yeah.
We did good. Yeah, that's the same.
We work for ourselves here too. It's inspiring.
I see a lot of guys out there like that. Lil Russell, you ever see him? Yeah, he go bro his bars are good man and he's so like inspirational he's got this whole thing man he does half the shit in his back he already he's sewing half the sweaters himself that he's slinging man he puts it together he's really inspiring i like watching him um do you see that trump thing that happened with the guy made the joke yesterday yesterday? I have not been in a debate situation at all, actually.

Well, this is a comedian. They just had him in yesterday.
This is Tony Hinchcliffe.

He's a friend of mine, and he just said they put him up at Madison Square Gardens last night in New York City.

They put him up to speak, and then this was a joke that he told us.

Everybody's going crazy about it today.

I don't know if you guys know this, but there's literally a floating island of garbage in the middle of the ocean right now yeah i think it's called puerto rico okay so that's the joke he told right at like a madison square garden rally i guess so people are up in arms about it because a lot of people are puerto rican in new york yeah yeah that was that was you know a very crazy statement yeah i just see yeah that seemed like a unique choice to me but i don't know i've made some poor choices but i haven't made that one that's i think we've all made a poor choice oh yeah once before i've made a ton do you guys do you feel like texas rocks with trump or you feel like, are you a political guy? I'm not a political guy. I just, listen, I keep my head down.
I make the money that I can make how I can make it. As long as I keep taking care of my kids, I don't care about what, you know, everything.
Hey, we got to go to war. We got to go to war.
We don't, we don't. You just got to be ready for whatever comes.
Yeah. You be a paratrooper, dude.
Looking at that video of yours,

we'll send you in.

And I feel like I'm to the point now where they wouldn't even ask me.

You know?

Like if the world was to end,

you know how like in all the world,

in the movies,

there's always like those two ships

or two boats.

I think I made it to get on one of those now.

Like I'm on the list.

Right, they're going to keep you.

Exactly, like plus two.

Yeah.

So.

And you have to bring your children probably.

Yeah, obviously, obviously.

Or do I bring two women so that I can repopulate?

Start more children.

Yeah.

One kid, one woman. And the other kid.
No, no other kids no no i gotta take both my kids i gotta take both my kids that's the best answer to end on i think for that um yeah people bet on it now two people betting on the election they have uh you ever seen this so this because a lot of it is it's like well where's people's money at because that's's where they're really, that's where you follow the money everywhere. That's where you really learn things, I find.
And they have Calci. This is a website where people bet on the election.
And it's, yeah, Trump's at 62% now there, and Kamala is at 38%. What else do they have on there? Trevin, if you can bring something up.
Oh, how many number one songs this year on Billboard? But you can bet on all types of stuff. Grammy nominations for album of the year.
Who's that? Cowboy Carter. Casey has 93%.
Casey Musgraves, Chris Stapleton. Will Big X win a Grammy, right? You could bet on that.
You could bet on anything, you know know and they probably have some of it on there but what is he at right now what's it at right now go back oh it's trump 62 and the money that's been bet 86 million dollars that's crazy that's crazy bro that is so crazy um like as your life has kind of taken some new turns you've had new opportunities have you

have there been any new mentors that have come into your life or like people that you start to see like this person i feel something that they're doing is interesting or i could learn from it yeah and then you kind of have created relationships with yet uh I keep my head down

I mean I just recently did a

interview with uh you know the million dollars worth of game wallow and gilly yeah i saw some of it but i mean it's i don't really i don't know i'm not a big industry person man i'm not gonna lie to you i don't like i keep relationships that are meant to be kept. I'm not gonna

overextend myself.

It's just gotta be genuine. And a lot

of this stuff is not genuine.

I just kind of stay to

myself.

I feel like if

anything, my biggest mentor is

my son.

You know what I'm saying? Just because

I feel like you go through everything you're going through and you still, you get up and you smile every day. Even though you might not know what's going on, you just, you know, you get up and smile every day, not even knowing, you know what I'm saying? So I have to say my, him.
Yeah, yeah. Everybody else, I feel like, I don't know, I did everything that I've done to get here, I feel like I do it on my own.
Yeah, you need, I guess, an industry. Yeah, maybe you're your own mentor.
That's interesting. Your son could be your mentor in a way.
Because it really is. A mentor is just kind of a source of inspiration.
No, for sure. Because there's days that I don't want to get up.
I don't want to do none of this. You know what I'm saying? But if my son can get up every day and go to school and have the biggest smile on his face and have good days.

Why can I not?

Do you ever listen to Jelly Roll?

You ever met Jelly Roll?

Man, I've never met him,

but I've heard that he loves me.

Man, I love Jelly Roll.

Y'all would make us sick.

Y'all could put something together.

I don't know if you do that kind of stuff.

You have some collabs, right?

For sure.

Yeah, bro.

He's one of the most genuine dudes.

I'm supposed to be doing a country tape next, and he's supposed to be on it. Yeah? Yes, sir, yes, sir.
Who else will be on it, you think? Shaboozy, maybe? Shaboozy, for sure. That's my dog.
I think I got an unread text from him right now on my phone. I just texted my body.
What's he like? I got to sit near him at a, we went to a women's basketball game. Don't tell anybody.
So. But we went.
And, but it was the Las Vegas Aces and they played good. I had no idea Shabuzi was 29.
You're old, buddy. You, you, you, you're old.
You're old. I thought he was my age.
Shabuzi, 29. He a damn adult.
I didn't know he was a tourist, though.

His birthday two days before mine.

Oh, he's a damn tourist as well.

Yeah.

Wow.

But no, he's, like I told you,

it's not a lot of genuine stuff in this industry.

Him and L.A. Chopper,

as far as rappers, that's really just it.

But they're the most genuine guys. I can call N.L.A.
Chopper right now. He just called me the other day and thanked me because whenever he was going, whenever he transitioned to that, if I was a bad, like, he was on the way to go to Rolling Loud because, you know, the first time he performed it was at the Rolling Loud.
I had just left Rolling Loud, so we had the same hotel. We had already done a song before then, but we was chopping it up, and in the back, you could hear the song playing.
He had somebody in the back specifically holding a speaker to play that song. And a lot of people just didn't really understand what he had going.
They didn't see where it ... I didn't even see the vision.
He's set. But I just knew, you know what I'm saying, at the end of the day, as long as you comfortable with doing what you're doing and you know your reasons behind doing what you're doing and why not do it? Like, you young.
Yeah. At the end of the day, they doing all this other crazy stuff why you can't do it? And so he just basically thanked me the other day for just, you know, basically accepting, you know what I'm saying, what he had going, basically believing in what he had going.
Like I said, that's my God, man. I got to get him on.
He just reached out and said thank you? Yeah, I swear. Oh, that's nice.
I was getting my haircut at my house. He called me.
He was in Tokyo. He was in Japan.
They getting him over there, I guess. It was broad daylight.
Japanese, they love everything. Yeah, it was broad daylight where he was.
Now, it was dark where I was. You know what I'm saying? He was just calling me.

He had just got to shower.

He was like, yeah, man, I just want to let you know I appreciate you.

I thank you.

But yeah, Shabuza, that's my dog.

I was just with him in New York.

I was trying to bring him out to the show today, but he in L.A. now.

He's all over.

Yeah, we sat next to each other at a game.

It was pretty good.

Watching the Vegas Aces is good, man.

Yeah, I got to go see a women's basketball game.

I feel like it's more intense. I can relate to their games because i can't dunk they can't exactly exactly i feel so every time they trying to dunk and they can i that's ryan you feel it yeah i feel it i feel it i'm like i got i know what these women are going through i actually can't dunk my manager just didn't get footage of it really because he you know he almost got fired that day as well But I was just recently shooting a Pride Speaks commercial Big shout out to Pride Speaks And I dunked a bow He really? I'm lying We won't say what he said No he said I'm not lying You're not lying I dunked a bow Wow really? They don't believe it See this is why You needed the footage I believe it I believe it This is why you needed The footage So that's all I'm saying Drewski was there Funny Marco was there Wait was Sketch there too Yes Yeah Sketch Drewski was there Yes sir Oh yeah how was that I heard it was good It was all for prize job, bro.
You're right there, bro. Yeah, I seen it before I said that.
Respect. Yeah, no, they're all great guys, man.
Everybody's just genuinely funny. From Spice Adams, that guy's hilarious.
Spice Adams, I don't know him. That's the...
Bring him up. Yeah, bring him up.
There you go. Let me get a look at him.
Spice Adams. He's a chef? No, he does like the old basketball.
When you see him, you... Oh, wait, did he do the...
That's Anthony Adams. But he goes by Spice.
He goes by Spice now. I thought that was Anthony Anderson, actually, for a second.
I think that's a movie artist or something. Yeah, it is.
Anthony Adams. You got to pull up one of his clips, one of the basketball clips.
Yeah, let's see if you can get one of them. I didn't even know he played professional football.
Me neither. Hell, I didn't even know he was.
Spice Adams. Go to the video, down to the right, far right, right there.
This is, oh. Oh, dang, bro.
We tried. We tried, Spice.
Oh, there he is. He was a funny guy.
Come on now. You didn't do that now, did you? What was he doing, mic apps? he's just saying this how old This how older guys laugh How old his laugh at Glucose mama jokes Like what But yeah he a character man Drewski everybody Everybody know Drewski A character sketch Drewski's a vest, man.
I did a, me and Drewski did a fake movie. It was like a fake movie that we made.
This shit was messed up. So the family is called The Diggers is their last name, right? Drewski wrote it.
Okay. So we're at the one of them.
The dad dies. It's Drewski and his sister.
They own, they're inheriting a funeral parlor. And then I'm married to Drewski's sister.
Okay. And so I'm getting part of the funeral parlor.
Okay. And they're not happy about it.
But anyway, we're at the funeral of the dad, the guy that died. And the last name is his name was Nathan Digger, right? And so I had to make a speech in front of all these people and it was like, man, I don't know if I can say this right now, but I was like, man, this is the best Digger we ever had in the whole world, right? And it was a room full of black folks who didn't, I didn't know any of them.
And Drewski and them are in the back just howling,

bro. And I'm just having to keep...

I had to do it like 15

times. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Finally, I was like, man, I can't do this anymore.

Yeah, it would have got awkward after a while.

Yeah, bro. Right in before.

Even if I know that you're saying

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Dude, it was... Yeah, it got really scary even for a little while um but they it was drewski's hilarious dude the video where he gets out of prison that's demon home you see yeah the demon oh yeah that's little ray that's little ray what do a mechanic and an auto shop owner in georgia a taco restaurant in Arizona, and a life-saving medical innovator in Tennessee have in common? They're all small business owners, and they're all thriving on TikTok.
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Plug, they're sending a lot of people to space. Would you ever go to space? If you, if we needed you out there, a lot of people would have to go before me.
Like you would have like a group of people would have like, not the astronauts that like you would have, cause they said it's supposed to be building a hotel up there. So yeah, somebody got to go stay in that hotel for a week and come back safely and they gotta check all their blood, you know their vitals, and if everything good, I'd go on like the third or fourth group trip, you know what I'm saying, I'd go on that, I would.
That'd be wild if you were out there. It would, because I would be lighter.
Yeah. That's really where I wanna go.
Lean with it, rock with it with it boy Exactly I would make I would I have so many captions When I come back Man Yeah and I wonder If you could write different bars If you were in space Because it would affect you differently My mental right Yeah I can't say nothing About standing on business Because I'm floating on business I see what you're saying That'll be hard We gotta We gotta get Gotta get us some space man First album written in space that'd be tough

I'm on some Soulja Boy stuff now

First rapper to write an album

In space

Yeah I wonder man

Big extraterrestrial

You could meet an alien out there

Do a lot of you believe in aliens

Do you believe in aliens my friend

I don't know

Cause you gotta think man

Thank you. Do a lot of You believe in aliens Do you believe in aliens my friend I don't know Cause you gotta think man They got a lot of space out there They do Do I believe that there is another Like planet out there With life on it Of course I think so Aliens I think they might look just like us I think they might look just like us.
I think they might look just like us. They might just speak different.
And, yeah. I ain't gonna say they just look like boo, boo.
I'm not gonna say that, but. Yeah, like a Teletubby or something.
Yeah, they might look like, yeah, I'm not gonna do that. But they might look like the guy with the ears.
Yeah. Him down there.
Down there, right there. They might look like that.
Oh, damn. He look like he cut his own hair.
That guy cuts his own hair, man. What if they don't have to cut their hair? That's just how their hair naturally is.
They just snap and it falls off how they want it to be. Wow.
That's as alien as it'll get for me. We used to have a bus driver.
He'd cut everybody's hair. He was the barber in our town.
So like once a month, he'd pull the bus over. $2, everybody get cut up.
$2? I don't know if I would want their hair cut. Oh, it wasn't a great cut, but it was the only cut they had, man.
But it's like, what can you get for $2? I mean, you get what you get. He was just sitting in a bowl like I hear it, just cutting around it.
Well, he could do it off a site. He didn't need a, you know, a dishware or nothing, but he could.
He did it. He didn't have that much faith in himself, though, because $2, that's, you get $2, that don't even get you no dip.
That don't get you nothing. But this was, was 25 years ago 22 years ago Oh okay okay So he had Yeah he really I thought he did a pretty good job But he pulled that bus over Bam everybody 22 years How old are you? I'm 44 Really? I'm an adult man I'm gonna die soon I'm an adult Man you look good It's the end Thanks.
I feel good, but I'm just getting older. I got to get a wife soon.
Yeah. You don't have to.
I know. You don't have to.
You don't think? Man, it's like part of me feel like this. I don't know, man.
I got two women right now. And I just feel like I probably would be better with none right now, you know? Yeah.
You know, because it's just like as you get better, it gets worse. Yeah.
But there's something also admirable about a guy that's able to make that work, though, too, I think. If I see that and a guy's able to make it work, that he's able to take care of his wife or ex-wife, I feel like there's almost something a little bit admirable about it.
I struggle every day. Yeah.
I struggle every day. They see it.
Every day I struggle. But, you know, I feel like it's making me a better person because now I like, I feel like the past me didn't know how to treat women.
Now that I got a daughter it made me want to treat women better and it will happen right when I have two women so now I'm treating them both like queens obviously but it gets to a point where that's another combo. Yeah that's another combo man.
That's something else bro. Definitely take as much time as you need because once you get married,

it's a wrap.

You there.

It's a wrap.

My dad just told me he's going to propose

to his girlfriend

on the Dallas date.

Wow.

On stage.

Uh-uh.

And what song are you going to play

a special song for him

if she says yes?

I mean, he's the voice on Texas,

so I'll probably just play Texas. First off, will you marry me? Dang.
If you got to meet some aliens, what songs would you play for me, you think? Mm-hmm. Yeah.
Mm-hmm. I'm from Texas.
And what about some other artists? The biggest, the largest. Yeah.
I would play that for them. They would like that.
But if they pull up with a big-ass, large-ass alien, you're going to have some competition, though. He's going to like the song, though.
He's going to like the song. That's all I know.
But I definitely would play, got to play some Lil Wayne. I would play...
Yeah, dude. You got to play some Lil Wayne I would play yeah dude gotta play some Lil Wayne we used to live not far from Juvenile and he chased a woman down the street one night in our neighborhood we just gonna say she did something wrong oh I'm assuming she did yeah and we can probably take that out I don't wanna hurt the guy's feelings i don't know if that's still pending either um what uh yeah i'm trying to think of what else man you've had so much success this year do you start to feel about different goals or you just stay you just kind of stay in in the pocket you're in like what do you feel like do you feel a responsibility to keep up with your own success now because that's Once you start to have some success, you almost set the bar for yourself without even realizing it, right? You're just trying to achieve some goals.
But then you set a bar kind of. I mean, like I said, I didn't come in this wanting to be the best rapper ever.
I didn't even want to be a rapper. I had to do something to take care of my child.
And so it's just to the point where it's like as as long as I'm taking care of my child, I'm good. I still don't feel like, I'm treating this as the NFL, because like I said, I wanted to, I thought I was gonna be a football player.
The NFL stands for not for long. So I gave myself five years, and I tell them every day, man, I can't wait to retire in this rap.
And they be like, yep, you got like 10 more years. And I be like, no, I got two.
And they be like, no. I'm like, yeah, I only got two.
Because after that, I'm just, I feel like movies, you know, like I'm just setting myself up for other things to bring more revenue to my family. When I'm gone, my kids are going to be so rich they ain't got to do nothing.
But it's going to like, I'm going to have, I'm going to have been done so much, like as far as music, movies, commercials, voiceovers, whatever. You know what I'm going to have I'm going to have been done so much Like as far as music Movies Commercials Voiceovers Whatever You know what I'm saying It's going to make them want to Do something You know what I'm saying Man my dad did all of this I got to go do this I got to do something To make my own name I want my kids to want their own name Yeah So it's like Everything that I'm doing right now I'm basically doing it To make it hard on them I see what you're saying because if they're if they're as competitive if they have that competitive spirit and i don't know that's in me because it got passed down from my dad my brother this is how it's just i know i know that's that's gonna be there exactly yeah and so when they when they when they nice and ready i just know they're gonna they're gonna put their best foot forward when they're gonna figure it out amen but if they don't they got piles of cash to sit on If they don't What about a Christmas album man Are you going to do something like that For everybody Man I did do a Christmas song one time I feel like it went crazy I just dropped it at the wrong time When are you dropping it in the summer? No it was cold It was cold I actually dropped it right around Christmas It just was early in my career So I had less that's what you're saying.
So, like, when I had less eyes, you know. Yeah.
But I think it's over a million-something right now that I've become who I've become. Maybe it could pick up then this year.
Yeah. Yeah, I think we got 1.5 a year ago.
And would you ever do a mall Santa or something like that, like, for children or for charity? I would. I would.
That's actually a great idea. That'd be sick, bro.
That's a great idea. Yeah, dude.
If you got to be a mall Santa, that would be pretty good. Yeah, I don't know if we can listen to it or not because we'll have to, it'll get claimed or whatever.
What's your show like, man? What's the show like? I might pull up tonight. You up tonight You should You should Nah it's more like Now At first my shows Was just like Turn a Lot of dancing A lot of People shaking a towel And all that Shaking a towel There's always that one guy That's just who The towel guy or whatever Like on the rap stages Is that one dude And he just Oh you talking man.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I guess Ro is my hype man.
It's good though. You got to have him.
No, but we're more like put together. Like, I don't know what it is.
Me and Ro, we've been performing together since my first ever performance. He was on stage with me.
So, I don't know. It's just the chemistry is there.
We know we wouldn't. Everything that we done put together, it just happened.

It wasn't nothing that we said.

Like we just for the first time did rehearsals before this tour.

And we done did three tours before.

Like my tour, Kevin Gates' tour, Key Glock tour.

We never rehearsed nothing.

It was just we went on stage and it just happened.

Wow.

So now we finally rehearsing it.

So I just feel like that made it.

Like now he come out on stage in a FedEx uniform,

you know what I'm saying, like it's crazy,

we just put more to it.

My, yeah, yeah, it's just, you should come.

Yeah, I'm gonna come.

To see a big guy my size move the way I move,

and to, you wouldn't even think that it was an hour,

I do hour sets, and you wouldn't,

if I wouldn't sweating so bad,

you wouldn't even know I was tired.

I don't know, it's just kind of like I wasn't sweating so bad, you wouldn't even know I was tired.

I don't know, it's just kind of like second nature to us down there.

We were football players,

so we done always been under the lights,

you know what I'm saying?

And so, I don't know,

it just makes you want to put on more of a show.

Do you have some ballads in there too,

some love songs like that?

I guess I used to, but now,

so the Take Care Tour is basically, I mean, it's off of the album, you know, it's based off the album. And my album wasn't more of a it wasn't a turn up album, it wasn't a for the women album.
It was just me speaking on me in this industry, you know, speaking on me in the now. And so like now I feel like my shows are more like personal.
Like a lot of people That come to my shows now They come because They feel the same way They feel the same way Exactly And so Like I did it myself I've been doubted Exactly And I still believed enough In myself to get things Exactly So now I speak Like now I perform with What's that What is the thing called That you sit the mic on Mic stand Yeah my fault

I had a brain fart

My fault

But yeah so now

I come out

Mic stand

Like

I show you my intro

Now you'll be like

Okay yeah that's crazy

That's crazy

If you can pull my Instagram up

You actually can see it

Yeah let's pull it up

And I'm gonna come see tonight man

And we'll get you out of here

Yeah make sure y'all follow me

At Big Extra Plug

Oh yeah

As well

Wow bro

That's so exciting man

It's really awesome

To see all your

To see just you

Have so many neat opportunities

That first one right there Thank you. Big extra plug.
Oh, yeah. As well.
Wow, bro. That's so exciting, man.

It's really awesome to see all your,

to see just you have so many neat opportunities.

That first one right there.

There you go.

Shout out to my cameraman, Trey Soles, man.

Wow. Wow I should have rapped bro Damn I should have That's crazy I should have got in I had a little bit of a chance but I didn't.
Hey it happens.

If you ask me

this is the easiest thing I've ever

done in my life. No cap.

If it wasn't for all the extra

stuff that come with it this is

the easiest money I've

ever made in my life.

It's different

when you gotta lie and make

up stuff because now that's a whole

another process you gotta do.

But when you just talking lie and make up stuff because now that's a whole other process you got to do.

Oh, yeah.

But when you're just talking about what you've done, what you've went through, that's just coming off my head.

I don't got to think, oh, what would sound?

Like, you know what I'm saying?

I don't have to do that.

Well, if you're staying true to your own life, then you don't have to manipulate anything.

Exactly.

And it's just so much easier.

You can go in the studio.

You're basically writing a story about yourself. Yeah.
easy man that's a great it's uh it's interesting i think people can understand what you're talking about too they can they can uh you just communicate so well that i think it just it reaches a lot of people yeah you know um x congrats on all the success man appreciate you yeah congrats on the tour I have them out now man Y'all make sure y'all keep Running that take care of We got Only three days in the tour We still got 29 more Dates And a lot of these Are sold out by now Yes A lot of these are sold out So y'all try to get in Where y'all can fit in Huh Oh Definitely get those Meet get those meet and greets. Oh, do people, yeah.
How do you guys do that after the shows? I try to do them before the show because after I'm all sweaty. Yeah.
So I like to do it before, but I don't know. I also feel like after it's more like genuine.
You know what I'm saying? Before I feel like it's me. It's just kind of like trying to get it and this is coming from this is me being honest about me yeah before it's kind of just feel like it's like i'm going through the like oh sound shake and meet and greet and but after the show it's like it's just more genuine because you tired and it's just the real you now right you've had the show already exactly and they've gotten to see it too exactly exactly so it's like whenever they like whenever they come up, like I had a guy, a grown man last night

walk up on me and tell me,

bro, I love you.

I appreciate you because of what you got going.

You helped me.

I love you.

Tell me you love me twice.

You know, so it's like that's real love.

Before, if we would have did the meet and greet before,

he wouldn't have went through the show.

He said, I might love you.

Yeah, yeah, hey, great job. You're on this side of the guy, but he listened through the show.
He said, I might love you. Yeah, yeah, hey, great job.

You know,

that's all the guy,

but he listened to the show,

he listened to the lyrics.

Yeah, after that,

the energy's been there.

There's been that connection.

I think a lot of people,

you don't think about it

from their perspective,

though,

they're just excited

to get to see you.

Some people,

it's like you want to hear

their music,

but also I think

you just want to be

in the same building as them.

And I think that's

some of the energy

that you have, I think.

Yeah, for sure. Some people, it's just their songs.
Yeah,, I wanna go listen for their songs. I don't know if I really have a sense of them as a person, but to me it feels like, and it's just my thoughts, that there's something else where people are like, I also wanna be in the same room as him.
I just, you know, I feel like it's... And it's different when you got like,

when you're actual,

like when you're genuine,

like you're humble.

It's, you know,

it's just you.

It's actually you.

It's not no...

Right.

You know what I'm saying?

When you're just taking a picture

and getting them out the way,

you know,

you enjoyed the show.

How did you like the show?

What was your favorite part of the show?

I appreciate you coming out, man.

People love that.

That makes them feel like

they're a person

and you're a person.

You know what I'm saying?

Yeah.

When you're a person.

You know what I'm saying? When you're taking the picture

and moving them on out the way,

it just makes it seem like you're a robot.

The machine

is running you.

And these days, some of the

best artists is just everything that's outside of the machine.

The machine's dirty, man.

That's why I feel like everything that we're doing right now

is historic because

it's all this. We're doing it completely

And then, best artists is just everything that's outside of the machine. The machine's dirty, man.
That's why I feel like everything that we're doing right now is historic because it's all us. We're doing it completely independent.
Who's your team? I mean, I know a lot of them right here, but just... Okay, so I got a distribution deal through United Masters.
Okay. So they don't do nothing but distribute my music.
I mean, they gave me a small marketing budget, you know what I'm saying? Nothing too major. Like they pay for everything you know what I'm saying this tour I paid for out of my pocket like the bus $200,000 on a bus I know dude that bus is damn expensive I'll take the old bus Greyhound was $60 $60 bro to get to Rochester that's smart or FedEx youEx.
You mail yourself overnight. Not different.
I don't know, but I just feel like, I don't know, I'm kind of glad we did the best stuff because you know, it's just. No, you have to do it.
Yeah. You have to.
It's hard to start to spend that money on yourself. Like we, tour with comedy, we just got back from Montana or some different places, but it's like, you just, because at a certain point you're your own, you have to be comfortable.
You can't show up like you're rattled. Because you have to put the show on.
No, you're right. Not trying to preach at you.
I tried to nickel and dime. We fucking was on motorbikes one time.
We was on all kind of shit trying to save money, man. We had a camper.
We had all kind of shit. Now of shit now yeah i mean this was cheaper than flying everybody everywhere so yeah and we just i just i went through the sprinter experience and i just couldn't do that again it's hard man yeah we did all that van sprinter and then finally you just have to make sure you're comfortable enough to show up wow well what a journey big x thanks for just letting us enjoy your music man I love Yeah just how humble you are man And just Yeah People to people man That's all That's all we all are really doing You know Take care Tour And you can get the album You still have If it's sold out There may still be meet and greet tickets available For sure And I know you're just gonna keep adding more dates man You're gonna be a busy man yes sir we working we working yeah i'm glad i got to catch you today man yes sir i appreciate you for having me all right blessings

now i'm just floating on the breeze and i feel i'm falling like these leaves i must be

cornerstone

oh but when i reach that ground i'll share this peace of mind I found.

I can feel it in my bones, but it's gonna take a little while.