USMNT vs Uruguay Reaction Livestream

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Speaker 1 We love the game so much and we love you all so much that Landon and I are both on vacation, not in the same place, in different places.

Speaker 1 And we decided we're going to come on and chat to you all because we got got a lot to say. And I think a lot to say.
How's vacation, by the way? How's vacation? Amazing. Amazing.

Speaker 1 We ordered room service tonight. I'm in Cabo.
You're in Salt Lake? Park City. Do you have any

Speaker 1 ordered room service, lobster tacos, watched the game?

Speaker 1 Amazing. I love my wife, dude.
After like, I'm like, let's watch the game together. She's like, yeah, let's do it.
After like three minutes, she walked outside. She's just like, she knows.

Speaker 1 Yeah, she knows. Whatever.

Speaker 1 It was almost over after three minutes, by the way. Yeah.
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Speaker 1 Tampa was good to us tonight, man. Wow.
That was, Tim, one of the wildest

Speaker 1 first halves i've ever seen and i'm not being dramatic i don't like come on here and try to like be dramatic but god it was crazy i was just my wife kept coming and going what what what and i'm like another goal another goal another goal um what a dominating performance i don't know what more you could ask for if you're pochatino you have to be absolutely thrilled it's kind of crazy i i it was it was wild i just thought that like

Speaker 1 it's a bit of anomaly and then and then i thought like urguai stunk god they were.

Speaker 1 And, and, and, and I, I don't often, because then that takes the gloss off off the U.S. Yeah, so that's not what I'm trying to say.

Speaker 1 Very often do I, do I think, like, wow, a team stunk, and yet the U.S., and we'll get into why. I thought played a really good game, and I thought there were some really good individual performances.

Speaker 1 Um, but yeah, such a strange, you know, you get, I know it was a friendly, but like

Speaker 1 you get the halftime, like the game's over

Speaker 1 for for all intents and purposes. Well, it was over some way, halfway between the, in, in the first half, but some great performances.
Pachatino has his team humming.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Both the first team and what you consider maybe the second team.
So that's a brilliant thing. Tim, they made nine changes to the lineup.

Speaker 1 And honestly, I was like, this is a bunch of guys who have never played together. A bunch of guys.

Speaker 1 And it's rare, like people need to understand, it is very rare in a professional soccer game that the game's over by halftime. Very rare.
Like at any level, it just doesn't happen.

Speaker 1 Like sometimes it's 2-0, and you're like, all right, I feel like it's at a, or maybe even 3-0, you're like, all right, that's it. But very rare, do you just say this game's over?

Speaker 1 And this was, these were two, you would say, equal-ish teams, one ranked 15th, one ranked 16th. I was shocked.
I was shocked that that was a 15th ranked team. God damn it.

Speaker 1 Well, in fairness, we were 16 and we had a lot of our second team players. And but look,

Speaker 1 Barholter, we know, you know, start giving a rundown. I mean, Barholter, we know,

Speaker 1 he's got an incredibly wicked set piece delivery. I mean,

Speaker 1 it's special.

Speaker 1 It's not like world-class elite yet, but give him time. This kid's dialed in.

Speaker 1 Really good first goal.

Speaker 1 The fact that he moved the ball. I thought actually

Speaker 1 he thinks beyond his years because

Speaker 1 he took the first free kick, right?

Speaker 1 And he whipped it in. So then my thought process was he'll do the same again.
So at some point between the referee blowing the whistle and saying,

Speaker 1 I don't like this foul. let me put the ball back down here.
At some point, he either made eye contact with somebody.

Speaker 1 I didn't quite see whether he went and spoke to somebody, but he completely changed the script and he played short. And then he and then he had to be on the same page with Serginho, right?

Speaker 1 Because he knew to lay it back, right? Lay it back first time. Yeah.
And I didn't, at first, I was like, Did they work on that? And it just felt like he just said, Hey, I'm going to play it.

Speaker 1 Just roll it back to me and I'm going to smash it. He must have.
And then, you know, and then obviously, Freeman,

Speaker 1 big, big

Speaker 1 standing ovation for you. I didn't know you had that in your locker.
I didn't know. I mean, not not that either slaloman going was that like rena was that christian was that who no

Speaker 1 freeman and then he did it and then he did the business at the back post which where you expect him to be you know in terms of the header obviously luna unsurprisingly pops up for the fourth right like you kind of expect him that's his that's his kind of bread and butter late runs in the box a real cultured finish i mean i'm You can speak to this.

Speaker 1 How often does a guy run onto a ball, his eyes get really big, and like he balloons it or he drags it? Like there was never a chance in that. He just slapped it right in the corner.
Great contact.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 All right. Speaking of Sebastian Burhalter, we have a question from JR.
It's going to pop up here. Lots of questions from you guys.
So

Speaker 1 should,

Speaker 1 I'm sorry, should we design set pieces around Burhalter? That's an interesting question. So I played with someone that we did that for, Mr.
Beckham.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, what do you think? Do you, I mean, he has got to be in the team, obviously.

Speaker 1 I think that was Kenneth asking the question. He was kicking a soccer ball.
It looked like a gender reveal party. It was pink.
So congratulations.

Speaker 1 I don't know when that picture is from, but congratulations on your daughter.

Speaker 1 Girl dad, that's amazing.

Speaker 1 I would imagine if Berholter's in the game, again, we have to figure out what type of game it is, what the lineup is. But yeah, I think he's on the ball.

Speaker 1 I think he's in and around it for sure.

Speaker 1 And generally, Tim, what happens is you design, like when you design a set piece, you're designing it for someone to go attack it, right?

Speaker 1 Someone like Omar Gonzalez, we used to just pick and try to get him free to either score or knock it back across the goal mount.

Speaker 1 But when you have that kind of quality, man, and I watched it closely when I was commentating with Fox during the Gold Cup.

Speaker 1 And after a while, you just go, okay, this is not just like happenstance or like, oh, we got that one good. He does it every time, every corner, every, it's just like up and dipping and whipping.

Speaker 1 And it's really hard to deal with. And

Speaker 1 I think to answer the actual,

Speaker 1 hang on a second. Kenneth said his daughter is due next Saturday.
Amazing.

Speaker 1 Oh, that's awesome. Now

Speaker 1 it's all happening. I think when you talk about designing a free kick,

Speaker 1 the answer to the question we saw tonight, I don't think you need to, you know this. You don't need to, if it's.

Speaker 1 If it's right in and around the box, he's going to curl it and he's going to try and put it up and over the wall or the keeper's side. If it's a wide free kick, well, that's not for him.

Speaker 1 He's just going to put it in a good area.

Speaker 1 Probably for Chris Richards. The ones that you're talking about are the, are the ones that are off the cuff.

Speaker 1 So what you want to do is like tonight, when he's standing over a ball delivering it, you want to have like one or two wrinkles that say like,

Speaker 1 what happened tonight? I'm going to play it and stop it or play it and play it back and I'm going to whip it. So there's not a ton of like,

Speaker 1 you don't really overthink it. It's just giving him one or two different little wrinkles off of a normal set piece that he can go to.
And they obviously have done that because we saw that tonight.

Speaker 1 And give him the autonomy then to make that decision, right? Make that decision,

Speaker 1 You don't want to say you have to do this every time because he saw it and he was like, oh, this is on. Totally.

Speaker 1 You know, we used to, when Bob was coaching us, Tim, when we would go away to Europe, a lot of times, he would say, guys, when people wake up in the morning and they, you know, they went to bed and they didn't watch the game.

Speaker 1 Let's be like, when all those friendly results pile in, let's, let's be one of the teams that people go, oh, my God. They went to Poland and won.
They went to Switzerland and won.

Speaker 1 They went to Germany and won. And this was one of those nights.
Like people are going to wake up. If you were like, oh, it's a friendly.
It's Uruguay.

Speaker 1 It's not, it's the quote B team and all this.

Speaker 1 You're going to wake up and go, what? Yeah. You're going to watch the highlights and go.
And not only was it five, it was not like they scored three in the last three minutes. Right.

Speaker 1 It was over at halftime. Totally.
He's right. Over at halftime.
Shout out to Bob Bradley.

Speaker 1 Always had us prepared. He did.
And it was like a source of pride. Like, we wanted to be that team where people wake up and go, wow.

Speaker 1 All right. Another question about Tyler.
Well, interesting, Jordan. Question about Tyler and Weston losing their spots.

Speaker 1 I didn't say that.

Speaker 1 Have we learned yet that this team doesn't need Weston and Tyler to win? Have they lost their starting jobs? All right. That is from Mike.

Speaker 1 I'm going to have everyone settle down a little bit. We're all excited about the result.

Speaker 1 I want to remind people that in a World Cup, you need lots and lots of players. There's very few World Cups where you use 11 or 12 or 13 players.

Speaker 1 Have they lost their starting spot? I don't know. That's up to Pochatino.
But you take all of this with a grain of salt. You do.

Speaker 1 The games that really, really mattered and meant something-the gold cups, the Copa Americas, all that, you put more stock in as a coach than a friendly. You do.

Speaker 1 And it doesn't mean this wasn't important. I'm not saying that.

Speaker 1 But everyone can settle down a little bit. But I would say this: there are a bunch of guys, Tim,

Speaker 1 that

Speaker 1 six months ago, we would have said, no, they're not going to start over these guys.

Speaker 1 And a bunch of those guys, Alex Freeman, how do you keep him off the field right now?

Speaker 1 So whether it's Serginiodest or whoever's playing that position, Tim Wea, whatever, how do you keep Freeman off the field? I don't know. You don't.

Speaker 1 Arston,

Speaker 1 right? Like, Jedi has been hurt and obviously we're all hoping it gets better. But how do you keep that guy off the field? Yeah.
Right.

Speaker 1 Berhalter, when he's doing this, how do you keep these guys off the field? Yeah. Look, I'll dig dig deep into this.

Speaker 1 Tyler Adams and Weson McKinney, for me, are out and out starters,

Speaker 1 not just based on their

Speaker 1 past

Speaker 1 performances, but I think they're the best players. And I think they give the U.S.
the best chance. What this does, though, is this.
And we haven't seen this. This lights a fire under them.

Speaker 1 consciously or subconsciously to where

Speaker 1 it's conscious. And I've been a part of it where you're the starter.
But by the way, I've got two guys sitting over here that I have so much confidence in.

Speaker 1 And if we get to halftime and you've laid an egg, I'm hooking you. That's right.
We get to 60 minutes and things aren't going well, which happens with players, I'm hooking you.

Speaker 1 And then

Speaker 1 the trick-along to that is if one of these starting players doesn't have a good performance, okay, and they get hooked, and the guy coming in that the manager has confidence in then has a good performance in the the second part of that game.

Speaker 1 Now the manager's got a decision to make in the next game, right? And now in the next game, that player might play. But I think it's a great thing.

Speaker 1 This is competition for places we've been wanting, we've been hoping for, and it's great. And I tell you what, I'd say

Speaker 1 the two players who will benefit the most from all this is Tyler Adams and Weston McKinney, because I think they're great. They're great players.
Yeah. I think they're great players.
And

Speaker 1 I think what makes Tyler and Weston great is that they step up to the plate, is that they understand competition, they thrive in those in those environments. So the more the better.
That's right. And

Speaker 1 Malik Tillman, right? Like guys like this who are watching, now they're going, gosh, I got to get into camp. I want to get into camp because these guys, I don't want these guys taking my spot.

Speaker 1 So, all right, we have a question on if the U.S. won or Uruguay lost the game.
Okay, that's interesting. L and T, did USA win this game or did Uruguay lose the game?

Speaker 1 So I'm going to take a stab at it first. So

Speaker 1 we played in a ton of games, Tim, where for whatever reason, your opponent didn't show up to play. And I also played in games where I didn't show up or we didn't show up as a team.

Speaker 1 And sometimes you get away with it because the other team also isn't at their very best. The problem with Uruguay today is they were shocking.
Like that first half was absolutely shocking.

Speaker 1 That's as bad as I've ever seen Uruguay play. And I've probably seen them play seven or eight times, like live, watching like that in my life.
And that was as bad as I've ever seen and Bielsa

Speaker 1 he will not stand for that so that was bizarre however this US team with nine changes to it were highly motivated yep they were not Uruguay were kind of out there to kind of like let's go through the motions maybe we get a tie like we did in Mexico a few days ago and whatever and you just were like no this is a real game and we're getting after it.

Speaker 1 And if you show up like that, you will get your ass pounded like that.

Speaker 1 And that is what happened. And the U.S.
showed up and absolutely dominated. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I don't disagree. Look,

Speaker 1 I think the U.S. team won the game.

Speaker 1 I thought you were stunk on the night, like badly. But I do think in those moments, and I've seen it before where a team stinks, but they don't get punished for it.

Speaker 1 And so the U.S. had to go punish them and they won the game.
So fair play with them. I'm going to give you a few minutes off if you want to go get some wine because we have a question

Speaker 1 for me. about emotions from goalkeepers.
Tim, do you agree that goalies do not show enough emotion and drive? That has been missing since you left. You let your defenders have it when they messed up.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 I think emotion has gone out of the game. I think that's part of the, that's part of sort of the evolution.

Speaker 1 And I know this for a fact that, you know, managers have tried to take the emotion out of the game. to play better football or whatever, but it comes in cycles.

Speaker 1 You know, just for the record, my, and I think, Landon, you know this, my, my yelling and screaming, shouting or not was all was all manufactured. It was for the moment.
Okay.

Speaker 1 I actually, I didn't know. I was just going to ask you that question.
Yeah. Yeah.
And so,

Speaker 1 so meaning like it depended. If you really look back on it, there were times where a guy would get a shot on goal.

Speaker 1 And depending on what kind of game our left back was having, I might not have a go at him because I know that's going to rattle him even more. Maybe I just say, like, no problem.

Speaker 1 It's my job to save it. And then there were times that we needed a bit of a pick-me-up.
It's just, it's just kind of how it was.

Speaker 1 There were times where, you know, this, you'd have a go at the goalkeeper, excuse me, me, at the referee as a goalkeeper. And you're like, I didn't do anything wrong there.

Speaker 1 I just, I was just trying to get our guys going. So

Speaker 1 it's come out of the game a little bit, but I think emotion in general has come out of the game. Yeah, it kind of has.

Speaker 1 And I, I actually, I mean, the Betsincore red card was really nasty, like a really bad challenge, but at least they cared and they showed up.

Speaker 1 And, you know, some of these friendlies, like, just looks like nobody cares. And so that was, it was scrappy.
I appreciate the emotion. And yeah, definitely.

Speaker 1 I'm not like super into stats all the time, but one amazing stat at halftime, all four goal scorers had come on our podcast. There you go, Tim.

Speaker 1 I'm not saying there's a correlation, I just know there is, guys. When we asked

Speaker 1 me,

Speaker 1 when we asked you to come on the show, there's a reason for the show if you want to score.

Speaker 1 Don't just blank us.

Speaker 1 Um, okay. Question about Ricardo Pepe.
Yeah, bring it to us.

Speaker 1 Question for LD and Tim: Is Pepe not getting any minutes today? A concern for him? Yeah, that's a good question.

Speaker 1 I would say, yeah. I would say, yeah.

Speaker 1 I mean, this is a game where you can't wait to get on the field if you're watching from the bench because you're like, there's going to be chances, especially when they went down to 10 men.

Speaker 1 You're like, fuck, get me on the field. Get me on the field.
And yeah, I don't.

Speaker 1 I can't, I'm not in Pochitino's head. I can't speak for him, but he had a chance the other night that he fluffed and should have scored.

Speaker 1 And it's clear, pretty clear right now, though this thing, this is always changing, but like it goes Balagun and then Haji Wright. And I think Pepe right now is third.

Speaker 1 And that's, you know, that's the way he views it. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I like what I like your explanation. Let me, let me put my spin on it.

Speaker 1 If you're Pepe tonight and you're on that team bus, you're like, damn, you're bummed. Like, like, you're like, you, he personally would be bummed.
And here's why. The math ain't mathing.
right?

Speaker 1 You only have a certain amount of strikers who can play. And

Speaker 1 in this game, if I'm him, right? If I'm going into the game, unless he had a conversation with Pachitino before, if I'm going into the game, I'm thinking,

Speaker 1 we know, those players all know Balagon's number one. So he starts.
Then Pepe comes in, right?

Speaker 1 For him in the game prior, in the power play game.

Speaker 1 Right. So now Peppy's going into this game going, cool.
Flo's the number one.

Speaker 1 Get him on the subs bench. He's not starting.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Get him on the subs bench.

Speaker 1 Oh, Ozzy Wright started. Okay.
Well, that's, that's a bummer. But guess what? That's fine.
I'll come in at 60, 70 minutes and I'll show what I can do. Bang.
Now Balogan comes in. So now Pepe's gone.

Speaker 1 Oh, he's just like, so

Speaker 1 it'll hurt him. And it is a sign because, like I said, the math ain't math.
And like, you didn't get a chance, you know, and

Speaker 1 that it's not great. I don't love it.
I actually felt the same way about Geo, to be really honest. I'm like, he's a guy who I wanted to see get back-to-back starts.
When he doesn't, I'm like, oh.

Speaker 1 But then Gio comes on and does what he does, right? He gets a, he gets a really good assist. He gets a yellow card, which kind of a prerequisite for him, which I love because he's feisty.

Speaker 1 And so, like, that, that was actually then a good camp for him, right? Pepe goes on as a sub, yeah, misses a chance and then doesn't get a chance in the second game. So, you're kind of, again,

Speaker 1 it's and you have to remember with Pepe, so a lot of these guys have been through these camps now,

Speaker 1 and now they know what the expectation is. Pepe hasn't been around a while, and I'm

Speaker 1 solely guessing here. And I'm not saying this is the case, but I'm saying this could be a scenario where he kind of came in and thought, like, I'll get some minutes.

Speaker 1 And the rest of the guys are on edge right now. And they're like, I better get after it every day.
Train. Oh, you mean training? Yeah.
I'm just saying off the field, like he really bought in.

Speaker 1 And, you know, it could be a scenario where maybe just he has to learn that, like, okay, that's what Pochatino wants. I'm not saying that's the case, but that could be, that could be part of it.

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Speaker 1 Okay, question about the scuffle on Saturday's game. We're a little scuffle.

Speaker 1 It's a good scuffle.

Speaker 1 From Alan Potter. Is that a coach or something? Oh, that's Graham Potter.

Speaker 1 LD and Tim, with the lack of fight and fire that has been a complaint for the last year, does seeing the fight in this window mean more to you than it looks like as a fan that is super happy to see it?

Speaker 1 I'm thrilled to see it.

Speaker 1 I'm thrilled to see it in general because Tim just said it. The emotion and the passion has come out of the game.

Speaker 1 quite a bit over the last decade or so as we've focused so much on playing beautiful soccer all the time

Speaker 1 and man national team games that's what this should be qualifying that's it should be a battle like a real battle and it doesn't have to be you can play home to to trinidad and win 5-0 and it's beautiful but sometimes you just go to cuba and the field's terrible and the lighting's terrible and you just go battle you get out of there one-zero and so watching watching the guys

Speaker 1 I think in a smart way, thank God there was no VAR, but like in a smart way, get after it and protect each other is great. I think that's great.
Just don't get sent off.

Speaker 1 I have no questions about this team, this group. And I say that because we saw a lot of fight in the Gold Cup.
So we're like, okay, well, that group will fight and scrap.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 1 the big boys came in, Chris Richards and Ballistic and all these guys, they showed me a hell of a fight last camp.

Speaker 1 And then we see it again this camp. So I think this group as a whole is, again, humming and they're clicking and they're together.

Speaker 1 And again, you talk, I think you and I have been brutally honest when we say, like, look,

Speaker 1 this is an educated guess or this is something we know. My educated guess is that the Gold Cup team set a standard that Poch liked.
Maybe he lit that fire. And

Speaker 1 I tend to think he probably, once he had everybody in, probably said, hey.

Speaker 1 This is what I want to see. I've seen this from these guys.
I need to see it from you. Again,

Speaker 1 that's an educated guess on my part. But either way, whatever.
I don't care what. That wasn't a

Speaker 1 bluff Tim because then he followed up by playing those guys again and playing a lot of those guys and giving them more minutes and more Arston, Luna, giving Freeman, giving these guys more chances.

Speaker 1 Because you can say it all you want. And then all of a sudden, the same old guys are starting again.
Totally. But he followed.
And let's take a second to like,

Speaker 1 let's really... give a lot of credit now to Pochettino for

Speaker 1 just the mental side of how he's played this whole thing because it was ugly in the summer Tim. There was some real stuff flying.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 And I think he's masterfully put this together, pieced it together. Now, was it intentional?

Speaker 1 I have to assume yes, but maybe kind of looked into some of it, made of it, you know, but like I think it was intentional. I think so.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 And now the team, it doesn't matter who shows up and plays, dude, they get after it. And the thing about pressing and running and fighting.
And it's fun to watch. I'm like,

Speaker 1 I'm loving it. Yeah.
I think the thing we have to give, I mean, Pachatino is a brilliant manager.

Speaker 1 He is.

Speaker 1 I think what we have to probably give him a lot of credit for is his experience. Meaning,

Speaker 1 I think he has understood over the course of his coaching career that there's more than one way to get a result from your players. Meaning, he's bided his time.

Speaker 1 He's the biggest name in the room, right? So he could have easily just said,

Speaker 1 do what I do. Do what I say.
But you forget where he's been. He's been at Tottenham with big players, been at PSG with big players.
I don't know i'm guessing he was like i i'm not just gonna go

Speaker 1 give

Speaker 1 lump namar and tell him what to do he probably thought i gotta go around this way to get you know to get performances so he's so he's doing that i digress by the way i saw an amazing hockey fight the other day speaking of tussles

Speaker 1 right from right from the first puck drop they all scattered these two big fellas dropped their clothes i was like yo and they beat the stuffing of each other and then you know what it was a great fight and they were both like patting each other on the back while they were getting that way i was like this is amazing anyway i digressed uh more questions oh this is another goalkeeping one let's see question about matt free's decision making uh in the uruguay yeah

Speaker 1 what are your thoughts on matt freeze decision to come off his line and challenge before the uruguay goal here's what i would think i didn't like it i think i thought it was a bad decision here's the great part when you make bad decisions and your team wins 5-1 it's awesome It's awesome because you get to learn from it.

Speaker 1 Here's what I would say to Matt Freeze, and this is

Speaker 1 what I truly believe.

Speaker 1 If you see the play, he made a decision and he was aggressive with his decision. Aggressive mistakes, I don't mind.

Speaker 1 Whether you're a striker or a midfielder or goalkeeper, if you're going to make a mistake, be aggressive. So we did that.
So credit to him.

Speaker 1 What I would say is when you saw the play, he had two defenders versus one Uruguay attacker. I truly believe in the gospel of let your defenders defend.
Your job, let them defend. That's their job.

Speaker 1 They want to do it. They want to do it.
They want to scrap. They want to get in the right places.
If that breaks down, then it's your job to save the day.

Speaker 1 I thought he came and got mixed up in a play that he probably shouldn't. But again,

Speaker 1 that's great.

Speaker 1 It was an aggressive mistake and we won 5-1, right? If it was a reluctant mistake and we lose 2-1, okay, this is a whole different kettle of fish. But that's kind of my thought process.

Speaker 1 And this is, by the way, this is why he's playing every minute of every game, because as you've said over and over, he needs to get whatever it is, 12, 15, 20 caps, because if you do this in a World Cup, you lose 2-1.

Speaker 1 Right. And

Speaker 1 you cannot do it. So he has to learn.
It was just, it was the same in the Gold Cup with the,

Speaker 1 was it the Haiti goal? Where he made the mistake the back of the election with the best. That's the only, the only way you learn is by doing it.

Speaker 1 And so this is another moment where he goes, you know what, we're up 4-0. It's right before half.
I'm just going to let my defenders defend and deal with what happens after.

Speaker 1 Going back a step, Lennon, and I made a note about it, right?

Speaker 1 What I liked about this group, and they're clearly the second group, right?

Speaker 1 It had filtered into the national team where everything was just kind of like blase guys were just kind of coming and going as they pleased

Speaker 1 and that sets a that sets a precedent and when and when i when the bigger players do it the younger players follow and what i loved about tonight is

Speaker 1 whatever the scoreline was four one five one they kept going they left there was no egos it was like i i'm here to represent this the amount of players that tapped the crest and pulled on their shirt when they scored.

Speaker 1 That to me, they just kept going and that that that the pressing and the fighting and the spirit and feeling like that felt tangible tonight and so uh that was a good sign you know pochatino said at one point in one of his press conferences he said when i got here

Speaker 1 uh guys would tell me he said i talked to christian and they would say we want you to change the culture right and and and his understanding of what of that in speaking to him and other people was i'm not going to change the culture in america right he's like what are you talking about like eating cheeseburgers or french fry like but he didn't really understand what they were saying and i think the the

Speaker 1 what he's done is he's made he's made people proud to play for the team again he's made people really care about playing like not taking it for granted to play for the national team and now

Speaker 1 It's as bad as it was previously and it was spiraling and out of control and it was a habit. Now it's flipped.
And now the habit is like when I get on the field, I run my ass off.

Speaker 1 And it doesn't matter who I am or what the situation really go get after it.

Speaker 1 And now that's that's the expectation. And there's no reason why that's going to change between now and the World Cup.
I think it's only going to intensify. That's right.
And let's dispel the myth.

Speaker 1 Players create culture. That's it.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 All right. We have questions.

Speaker 1 Coaches can too. Can, yeah.
But the players have to implement it. Yeah.
All right. Go ahead.
Lots of questions. Questions about Christian Roldan?

Speaker 1 Talk to us.

Speaker 1 What are your thoughts on Roldan? That's not Roldan. That's a cute dog.
Is that Smokey? Is it Rock Smokey? Rock Smokey.

Speaker 1 I feel like that's a Knoxville thing. But anyway,

Speaker 1 hang on a second. Roldan.
All right.

Speaker 1 What are your thoughts? I mean,

Speaker 1 I think Christian Roldan is

Speaker 1 what it says on the tin. He goes about his job.

Speaker 1 He's an experienced guy.

Speaker 1 I think a guy who would probably be on the fringe to make the World Cup roster, but I think he will make the World Cup roster because of the intangibles, because of, I bet he trains really, really well.

Speaker 1 You know, he's a team guy. He's a winner.

Speaker 1 And he's feisty and can keep the ball moving, create tempo in the midfield. So, yeah, that's my thoughts.

Speaker 1 Here's what's going to happen. So, if it's 26 players, and we're going to, again, we'll get to this soon here.

Speaker 1 Whatever in the next few weeks, months. How do you fill out your roster?

Speaker 1 and there's always a couple guys at the end who are like okay we have enough players in that position but we want this intangible or this set piece delivery or this in the 90th minute a six foot six guy who can go cause that cause havoc in the penalty or whatever so you're gonna have tesman morris tyler adams weston mckinney roll dawn burhalter i don't know if i'm missing anyone where are those forward

Speaker 1 midfielders i'm talking about like central

Speaker 1 midfielders and and tillman you know, he's more attacking, whatever. And maybe I'm missing someone, but you're going to have basically those six guys.
Do you take five of them?

Speaker 1 Do you take six of them? Do you take four of them? Right.

Speaker 1 And if it, if the question, if the answer for Pochatino and his staff is we're going to take five, but now you've got Christian Rodan or Burhalter sitting out there at the end who are amazing teammates, amazing in the locker room, great culture guys, provide something different.

Speaker 1 In Burhalter's case, phenomenal set pieces. You know, you're up a man and there's 10 minutes left.
You have all the ball. You're getting free kicks.
Put him in the game. He can create something.

Speaker 1 What's the decision making? And maybe he's your 26th guy. And I think that's what Rodon has put himself in contention to be right now.
And that's what it feels like to me.

Speaker 1 Okay. Question on the most important moment of the game.

Speaker 1 Most important moment. Gio sprinting all the way back to the top right of the defensive third to shut down the counterattack around the 83rd.
Yeah, I remember watching that play.

Speaker 1 And this goes back, David, to the culture piece, right? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Three months ago, Gio Reyna wasn't doing that. Six months ago, he wasn't doing it.

Speaker 1 Three months ago or six months ago, Christian Pulisic wasn't going into the game with a hurt ankle in Austin to play 10 minutes or 15 minutes.

Speaker 1 There's just, there's been a culture shift, and now guys are desperate to get on the field and desperate to stay on the field. And that's the easiest.
I mean, that's why that happens. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Well, said that's the other question.
Question about the defense being short, LL. Physically short.
Don't know. Don't know.
We're going to find out. I love Jordan's captions in here.

Speaker 1 What was the factor on the U.S. not being able to deal with the ball before Uruguay's goal? Maybe missing freakish height from our center backs or Gooch Omar.
Gooch, Omar.

Speaker 1 Johnny Brooks, yeah. Johnny Brooks.
Yeah. No,

Speaker 1 it's a good question. On that particular goal, it was just sloppy.
It started with the Matt Freeze coming out. They were a little bit disjointed.

Speaker 1 Sometimes when you get disjointed, and I know this is a fact and I see it all the time, time, when you get disjointed as a defense, you lose track of people. And

Speaker 1 there's a certain sort of moxie that experienced defenders have, forget your height, where when you're in a scramble or an emergency mode, you scramble and you're in emergency mode, but then, but then there's a moment to be set.

Speaker 1 And I thought the U.S. actually saw it out, saw the danger.
It was just, it was a header. They had more numbers.
There was more U.S. jerseys in there.
Relax, get a fist to someone's shirt.

Speaker 1 get your arm in someone's chest and then just go head the ball they just kind of lost track of people so i don't think that had to do with physical height. Yeah, I agree with that.
All said.

Speaker 1 All right. So let's talk about,

Speaker 1 you know, now we have 2025 as a whole, right? We have, I think it's 11 wins, a draw and five or six losses, six losses, maybe?

Speaker 1 Man, it's been a weird, it's been a weird year, Tim, because Think about if you go back to the summer and we have receipts on this show of

Speaker 1 what we felt and what this thing looked like. And we were as pessimistic as they come.
And rightfully so.

Speaker 1 And now you end the year and you're like, wow, that was a top 15 team in the world we just played.

Speaker 1 And by the way, the World Cup next year, we're not playing any of the top nine teams in our group for sure. Right.

Speaker 1 So if you get the 20th best team and the 35th best team and the 45th best team, chances are like you're going to be very favored in all those games.

Speaker 1 And so now you look at it and you're like, God, this thing's trending really, really well. Really well.
Yeah. No,

Speaker 1 I'm pleasantly surprised by how the year ended.

Speaker 1 I think the record is good.

Speaker 1 But I think what we're seeing, the eye test, the

Speaker 1 performances with the ball, without the ball,

Speaker 1 the goals that we're scoring defensively, how we're playing,

Speaker 1 that to me is what's most important. It really is.
Now, I like, obviously,

Speaker 1 want the you want your record to show that you've done pretty well and and they have um with those 11 wins but ultimately i think it's

Speaker 1 i think you come out i think you come out of this now

Speaker 1 really confident with

Speaker 1 your 30 players that you're going to pick your roster with that you're going to pick your roster from like i think i think pociatino and his staff can go cool these are our best

Speaker 1 eight players. These are, you know, these are the eight that we think are going to be on the bubble.

Speaker 1 and then everybody in between is confident in fighting for positions and i and i think that that's something that happened very quickly because by the way i i didn't see that 60 days ago yeah definitely not so and who we've beaten in the last few months matters too right because early it was you know

Speaker 1 Haiti and gold cup matches and you know it was it was like okay teams but not great and the last three windows have been World Cup opponents right and the next you know march it the the rumor is it's Portugal and Belgium.

Speaker 1 Those are real opponents, right? So, all right, let's do our favorite game. I got to get to that Portugal game.
Where's it? Where's it supposed to be? Do we know?

Speaker 1 Atlanta?

Speaker 1 I got to get to that. Is that right? When is it March?

Speaker 1 I think it's the end of March. Is the

Speaker 1 March is the end? I got to have Roberto Martinez take me to dinner or something.

Speaker 1 Martinez.

Speaker 1 Roberto Martinez. I want to go to dinner with him.
Maybe come to the Atlanta. Never invite me, pal.
All right. Let's do our favorite game.
So this was year 11 after the October camp.

Speaker 1 Freeze, Richards, Reem, IDK.

Speaker 1 I don't know. He's good.
He's good.

Speaker 1 He's a good player. Jedi, Weston McKenney, Tyler Adams, Weia, Tillman, Pulisic, and Balogun.
Do you want to change any of that now that you've seen two more games?

Speaker 1 Those are the best of

Speaker 1 10 and a half players

Speaker 1 for me. Those are the best for me.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 jedi is the one jedi jedi plays for me if he's healthy right but if he doesn't

Speaker 1 yeah i i'm i'm being bullish here and sticking with it but i do think arsen has put himself right in the shop window jorginho des i i

Speaker 1 i think he's going to be a tactical decision because he's He's a wing back and he's he can play in a four, but they're not really playing in a four. He can play midfield clearly, apparently um right

Speaker 1 so uh he des is definitely in in the in the top 11 but i just don't know what i don't know what form what tactically they're going to do and and then i don't know it at center back what like

Speaker 1 i'll let you i'll let you figure that out because you still got cc

Speaker 1 i'm officially taking cameron carter all right i was gonna say

Speaker 1 erase that um

Speaker 1 just because he hasn't been called in right so of course i think

Speaker 1 that could be a tactical thing, too, right? Depending on the game, like they used Joe Scalley the other night as a really attacking right set, like he was overlapping dest at times.

Speaker 1 So, they were just like, basically, it's two center backs, and you're just going. So, in a game where you're playing

Speaker 1 New Caledonia or someone gets in somehow or whatever, and a team you're going to dominate, you maybe do that.

Speaker 1 But so, my 11 was Freeze, CCV, Richards, Ream, Arfston, Weston McKinney, Tessman, Wea, Tillman, Pulisic, and Balogun. So I think

Speaker 1 yeah, well, assuming they're healthy, Tillman, Pulisic, and Balogun stay. But I will say this, Tim: if Gio Reyna shows up in March and plays two games against Portugal and Belgium and plays well,

Speaker 1 and like everything we hear is that the attitude is right and he's committed and all that, I don't know how you don't play that kid. So I'm not putting him in yet.

Speaker 1 Here's what I would say: yeah, yeah, I don't disagree. Here's what I would say.

Speaker 1 It's gone on record. The world has receipts.
I'm a Gio Reynolds fan. I just think

Speaker 1 with

Speaker 1 the time's running out before the first game of the World Cup, right? That window shutting.

Speaker 1 I think someone has to play themselves out of the position in order for Geo to get himself into the position. Like, I think now Geo can, I don't know if there's going to be enough opportunity.

Speaker 1 Like, Gio's not going to start tonight, start in March, start. Like, there's going to be other players that get an opportunity, right?

Speaker 1 And so the players ahead of him or the player ahead of him who gets the opportunity is going to have to play himself out of the position to open up a door.

Speaker 1 Right now, it feels like that, the only guy is Tillman, right? Because Polistic is going to be on the field. So I don't know who else that is.
Okay. Right.

Speaker 1 So it just, it just feels like if Tillman's not in or not in great form or whatever, it feels like Geo's the next guy. Yeah.
Yeah. I think.
I mean, it could be Luna, but I just,

Speaker 1 just, there's so much quality. So it's hard to keep them off.
It's great. Yeah.
It's great. All right.
So, getting back to mine. So, I'm going to say

Speaker 1 I have no clue who the third center pack is. I don't know.
Who is it? I don't know, dude. I have no idea.

Speaker 1 Go ahead. Yeah, go on.
No, what?

Speaker 1 I was just going to say, because you talked about some of the overlapping runs and all that.

Speaker 1 There's a caveat here, and I'm speaking to someone who's done it at the highest level.

Speaker 1 When the fur starts flying,

Speaker 1 okay? Yeah, you're right.

Speaker 1 And playing we're playing a few of the big boys there's

Speaker 1 probably

Speaker 1 oh jesus i was gonna say 10. there's probably

Speaker 1 eight nine players that i'm going go go sit over there

Speaker 1 keep your boots unlaced you ain't getting on a pitch today this this game this game's too big for you yeah i don't know i i don't know how else to say it because it sounds disrespectful but like some of this stuff is good and we're getting some things from the friendlies but when the fur starts flying, yeah, so you're only picking, you're only picking for it.

Speaker 1 You know what that was for me, Tim? That was watching, well, being there at the World Cup in Qatar in 2022, the group stage games, and obviously England is a good team, whatever.

Speaker 1 But then playing Netherlands, and I was like, oh, this is a whole different level.

Speaker 1 And in fairness to our team at that point, a lot of those guys were very young and inexperienced and much more experienced now, for sure.

Speaker 1 But like, when you have Cody Gakpo running at you and you've got Javi Simones and you have like, these are like real world-class players, right? Some of these guys. And so then it's, no, I get it.

Speaker 1 I get it. And, and you're not going to have 60% of the ball and you're not going to be creating 12 chances a game and all that.
So I get that.

Speaker 1 But I guess to finish up, I think, so I'm going to put Weston McKinney back in next to Tyler Adams. I do think that'll be.

Speaker 1 I think Arston is going to start. That's just my gut.
I can't see Robin. Yeah.
And

Speaker 1 Jedi. I mean, Jedi, I think, is the better player.

Speaker 1 Not by a ton, to be honest. I mean, Arfston, if you put him in Fulham and he was doing the same thing, you'd be saying, oh, damn, he's good.

Speaker 1 Yeah. And so

Speaker 1 I just, I just don't know what's going to happen with Jedi with Disney. So that's that.
I hope he's back, but I think it's going to be Arfston.

Speaker 1 And I honestly think at the rate he's going, it's not recency bias because of tonight is Freeman, I think, is going to find a way because

Speaker 1 he's just been so good. He's just been good.
Everything you ask, you know, players, Tim, where it's a young player and you're like, okay, but let's see if he can do it the next jump.

Speaker 1 And can he do it at the next level? And can he do it? And every time he's passed every test, he has. He's passed every test.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he has. I just, I want to shoehorn somebody in at this, at this third center back spot.
Like, I'm actually like saying,

Speaker 1 you remember on the left side, I said, like, can we play Anthony Robinson at and on the left center back?

Speaker 1 You know, you have two lefties, so that doesn't really work. But then Chris Richardson and Tim Ream somewhere in there.
Now Chris Richards has kind of shown he has to play in the middle.

Speaker 1 Like, could Freeman not play as a right-sided center back with a wing back? Maybe.

Speaker 1 I don't know. I mean, maybe about times right now, I don't know.
I want to shoehorn one of these guys.

Speaker 1 Then you lose his ability to go forward.

Speaker 1 I mean, it seems like you saw what he did tonight. But

Speaker 1 I'm just trying to get our best players on the field. That's what I'm trying to do.
And

Speaker 1 can you play him at right-side center back back and Serginio Dest as a wingback? Right. And then you're getting.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 I don't know. You know, because I'm also think again, this is a, you and I talked about this last camp.
This is also a tactical thing.

Speaker 1 Because if you go into a, into a World Cup game and you've talked about the rankings and we're playing a team where you're like,

Speaker 1 we're dominating here. Then really, you only need two center backs in possession because then you, your third center back can release.
And that'd be great if it could be. JJ Robinson or Freeman.

Speaker 1 Freeman. In a given lesson.

Speaker 1 Right. Right.
Yeah. Anyway.
Yeah, you're right.

Speaker 1 Okay. So there was other qualifying around the world today.
The Scotland. I haven't watched the highlights yet, but I was following on my phone, Tim.
So they were playing Denmark at home.

Speaker 1 I think they were down at one point.

Speaker 1 Anyway, they get into the 90th minute. It's 2-2.
They have to win to qualify directly, have to win. And they score in the 90 plus 3, and then again in the 90 plus 14.

Speaker 1 I can only imagine, they were at home. I can only imagine what the entire country of Scotland is like.

Speaker 1 I mean, Jesus, that, that, hearing like the flower of Scotland anthem at the Euros last year and thinking about next summer, what that's going to be, oh, I cannot wait. By the way, by the way,

Speaker 1 the Scots Travel Well, America. Oh, dude.
Look out. It's coming to a city.
They bring the party, too. All right.
Here's a look. Hang on.
Are we wearing kilts?

Speaker 1 Are we going to wear kilts at our live show? I'm not wearing a kilt, dude. Why not? Come on.
You can wear a kilt. If they're in the semis, sure, I'll wear a kilt.

Speaker 1 Here's a look at all the teams that have qualified. I'm not going to name them all off.

Speaker 1 Jordan also said Panama five minutes ago just qualified. Good for them.
That's awesome. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I don't know. There's not too many left now.
10. Panama should qualify.
14. That's like 40 teams or so now qualified.
So I think only about eight or so left.

Speaker 1 I think Suriname. Suriname worked, but I think

Speaker 1 they were losing 1 miles. They were losing in Guatemala.
That would have been a shock. That would have been amazing.
By the way, this is for another show.

Speaker 1 Well, actually, it'll be over for the December. But CONCACAF could get eight teams in the World Cup.
They could.

Speaker 1 There's something completely wrong with the world of soccer if CONCACAF gets eight teams in the world.

Speaker 1 I'm going to say,

Speaker 1 I'm going to refrain from what I'm going to say.

Speaker 1 Because it's the three hosts, and then three more qualify automatic, right? Yeah. And then two more could go to the playoff and qualify.

Speaker 1 Yes. Yeah,

Speaker 1 that's what it has to be. That would be insane.
That would be great.

Speaker 1 I'm not certain that would be great for the game of soccer i'm gonna get a phone call from someone at concaf but like i we gotta be honest victor's gonna call you the i'm just saying concaf if it puts actually if it pumps more money into concaf that would be great because then i think it's great yeah you love it um okay so coming up so all those teams have qualified there's i think eight or nine if i'm doing my math right there left and that won't be for a little bit but

Speaker 1 We are doing, we will, I will actually be at the draw. Are you going?

Speaker 1 You're going. No, I don't think I am.
Oh, you're not going. We're doing a live stream, but I'm not doing, I'm not going to do it.
We're going to do a live stream right after the draw.

Speaker 1 So after the draw, I think it's the draws, I think, at noon Eastern.

Speaker 1 They do it early. So I'll be there in the room, in the room where it happened.
And then at 3 p.m., we'll be doing a live stream to break it down. Eastern time.
3 p.m. Eastern.

Speaker 1 That's going to be so fun, dude. I cannot wait to like break all that down.
We might be on for a few hours that day, guys. So if you want to turn it off, you can.
Your hair looks great.

Speaker 1 Well, now, but it also looks good on that on that graphic.

Speaker 1 Did they put a oh, they put hair on me? Let's go.

Speaker 1 You know, like now that I have hair, they're doing all my um,

Speaker 1 whatever, like when you do an appearance or you have cards printed or all that, it's all with me bald from before. So, I'm like, dude, we got to get new graphics.
All right. Uh, it's a mess.

Speaker 1 Dan Armelle shout outs.

Speaker 1 What's the kids' game where you could do like the not Mr. Potato Head, but that's actually quite funny.

Speaker 1 You could do like the face, and then you could do like the hat, the hair, and then the beard and the mustache. And I don't know, you don't know.
Shout out to whatever that.

Speaker 1 Sure, this is what people want to hear us talk about. It's fine.

Speaker 1 All right. That was fun.

Speaker 1 Really great night. Really, really great night for U.S.
soccer. Great way to finish the year.
That was an early Christmas present for all of us.

Speaker 1 Thank you all so much for listening.

Speaker 1 This was really fun. We love these live streams.
So we'll be back on the 5th of December, like we said, 3 p.m. Eastern for the World Cup draw.

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