Ari Emanuel on the Future of Entertainment: Hollywood, AI, Creator Economy, YouTube vs Netflix

Speaker 1 Ari Emmanuel, the newest kingpin of combat sports, one of Hollywood's biggest power brokers.

Speaker 2 It's everywhere from the boardroom to, you know, even politics. There was another figure named Ari Gold that many people thought was named after you.

Speaker 1 The straight-talking deal maker has a reputation for getting what he wants.

Speaker 2 I'm back, and you're fired.

Speaker 1 Emmanuel has worked tirelessly to transform Endeavor into a multi-billion dollar behemoth.

Speaker 3 Ladies and and gentlemen, please welcome Ari Emmanuel.

Speaker 3 Thank you.

Speaker 3 Hey, welcome.

Speaker 3 When's the last time we saw each other at that dinner? Exactly. Yeah.
Did you see that panel? Yeah.

Speaker 3 You know Alex? Yeah, I know Alex. Yeah.

Speaker 3 I think he's great.

Speaker 3 I loved his book. Yeah, the book is incredible.
Yeah. So what's your take

Speaker 3 what we just have to cover there on my take?

Speaker 3 Well, let's start at the beginning. Ari, you have had an incredible arc.

Speaker 4 You've built an incredible business. And recently, you've had the opportunity to merge a bunch of assets, and just the thing has just taken a life of its own.

Speaker 4 Can you maybe walk us through the last four or five years of the evolution of Endeavour and your process of first leaving, building a business, then scaling it up, and just all of that

Speaker 4 action, the TikTok of it all?

Speaker 3 So

Speaker 3 March 29th,

Speaker 3 when I first came here, I was making 15 cents a mile when I moved to LA.

Speaker 3 Went to work at CIA, et cetera, then started the company March 29th on my birthday,

Speaker 3 almost 31 years ago.

Speaker 3 Had this idea about where

Speaker 3 content was going from George Gilder, who wrote this book like Haif for Television, and said there's going to be infinite distribution and and then content's going to be really, really valuable.

Speaker 3 And there's going to be many forms of content. And so

Speaker 3 we kind of went out and started growing the business and trying to get into every sector of the business.

Speaker 3 Made a two-horse race with when we

Speaker 3 quote unquote merged with William Morris.

Speaker 3 I think one of my best deals, actually, that merger. And then

Speaker 3 when Teddy Forsman passed away, bought IMG with Silverlake, who had come into the company, and then we were in sports.

Speaker 3 And then we realized it was all in the representation business, and then realized that because of what we built, the infrastructure we built in the global scale we had and the production and

Speaker 3 representation,

Speaker 3 we could start owning some of the assets as opposed to just representing them and kind of put them through our filters and kind of create more value.

Speaker 3 And so the first thing we did is we bought this company called Professional Bull Riley that was I think making

Speaker 3 three million dollars a year in profit we turned it into a really nice business it's still growing and then because of that

Speaker 3 and we had negotiated you know we negotiated every day against networks and studios

Speaker 3 the UFC came up and we said okay let's take a big swing The funny thing is, when we bought IMG, they say we overpaid. It was the cheapest sports acquisition ever happened.

Speaker 3 And definitely when we bought UFC, they were like at 4.5%. At the time, it looked incredibly expensive.

Speaker 3 And all we had to do was kind of make a broadcast deal that then took the multiple down from

Speaker 3 20 times to kind of under 10. We then thought we could take all those assets, my big mistake here,

Speaker 3 a conglomerate.

Speaker 3 The marketplace just didn't understand it.

Speaker 3 And so we tried to take it public right before COVID,

Speaker 3 failed.

Speaker 3 I didn't didn't realize how hard it was to go back out. Finally got it back public.
We kind of rolled all of the UFC into Endeavour. And we still weren't getting any value.

Speaker 3 We then, Vince said yes, and we merged the assets. A pure play was in sports.
Sports entertainment was a better conversation with the street.

Speaker 4 I mean, when you started, we had the traditional cable networks, then we had cable. It was a very

Speaker 4 hierarchical and easy to understand hierarchy. Right.
And then you have the streamers. And now, you know, this afternoon we'll have Neil Mohan from YouTube.
Right.

Speaker 4 Then you have characters like the Mr. Beast of the world who can go direct.

Speaker 3 So it's very chaotic.

Speaker 3 No, it's actually just back to George Gilder.

Speaker 4 It's back to George Gilder.

Speaker 3 There's infinite distribution, many forms of content. People consume podcasts.
People consume

Speaker 3 stuff on Instagram and TikTok. People consume stuff now on the streamers.
And so, and I don't believe that traditional business is going away for a long time because a lot of us sports guys,

Speaker 3 the NFL, the NBA has still sold stuff there, plus also sold it to the Amazons of the world. And so you just have a vast kind of map of where distribution is.

Speaker 4 So distribution has gotten vast, but a lot of people would say, some people would say,

Speaker 4 the kinds of content has gotten a little ossified, calcified, rigid maybe.

Speaker 3 What does that mean?

Speaker 4 Meaning like, you know, you don't see like the broad swath of the content that you would see maybe 15, 20 years ago. People

Speaker 4 but do you see people taking creative risk the way that they used to before?

Speaker 3 I don't know. I think, I think, I think I can't get enough content.
I don't think, I don't know about you. There's going to be more content than there's ever been.

Speaker 3 I think there's incredible voices out there. I think the content that's being made is

Speaker 3 there's a vast majority, and I think it's really incredible. I do.

Speaker 3 Ari, what do you think of podcasts and the general movement of top talent, Megan,

Speaker 3 Tucker? You guys?

Speaker 3 Okay, sure, we're a little bit behind them, but the ability for them to be independent and not affiliated with the network.

Speaker 3 This is something we have not seen in the industry. There were gatekeepers.
You used to have to get packaged, represented, and now...

Speaker 3 You know, people come to us all the time with different opportunities to join different networks. I won't talk about any specifics, but we've decided, well, why would we need them?

Speaker 3 Yeah, why would we need them if we have this amazing audience?

Speaker 3 I think the podcasting business is going to turn into the syndication business that used to be on the broadcast and the station groups. So Oprah was the behemoth.
It was the King World kind of thing.

Speaker 3 Oprah was the behemoth, and then Dr. Phil and Dr.
Oz, she launched a bunch of...

Speaker 3 You'll probably see that reincarnated through...

Speaker 3 People with podcasts, if they want to. We saw that at Barthstool.
Yeah. So you're saying we could then

Speaker 3 get

Speaker 3 a cable slash syndication model through this, through the multiple channels. So we should be a network and we should develop talent.
Yeah. You need some representation, guys.

Speaker 3 You know what? The problem is, Ari, it's like a lot of the representation, to be totally honest,

Speaker 3 we don't, yeah, and we would only consider a peer

Speaker 3 relationship with somebody who has done it before at a high level, if you know anybody. Yeah, I don't.
You don't? Well, Ari looks. Is anybody good? I don't know.

Speaker 3 We're talking about you, Ari.

Speaker 3 One of the things that I've noticed has become a common kind of thread with these big independents is they move from what used to be kind of commercial ad placements to sponsor deals where they got one sponsor to eventually owning their own business.

Speaker 3 Correct. And the value there is so much greater because the multiple, you get a multiple on revenue.
You don't just get advertising, the marketing line. Right.

Speaker 3 You know, Tucker has his Alps product, which JCAL fortunately is not on today. No, please don't put it on.

Speaker 3 You're saying use the promo code often? Well, Jimmy's got his chocolate bar company.

Speaker 3 Is that the future, do you think, for monetization for the big independents? Is that they actually own the equity in what historically have just been sponsors for them, and that's where the value of.

Speaker 3 Well, you're going to own the equity in your podcast, right?

Speaker 3 And then a lot of people, and we started this business, I don't know, about 10 years ago,

Speaker 3 we started at WMU called Talent Ventures, where a lot of musicians, actors started...

Speaker 3 Because, you know, with the broadcast networks and cable channels ratings going down,

Speaker 3 you know, manufacturers had to get to the audience. And so they used to do it through commercials.

Speaker 3 When that rating went down, they started then giving equity or people started launching a lot of different products. Sometimes it was alcohol, sometimes perfume, sometimes it was food, et cetera.

Speaker 3 That will now start happening

Speaker 3 with people like you, other podcasters. What if Paltrow has done an exceptional job?

Speaker 3 That's just a natural evolution because of where broadcast television is and cable television is. Manufacturers are going to have to get to an audience.
You guys have a very big and loyal audience.

Speaker 3 This events and things that you do

Speaker 3 over the air.

Speaker 3 Products will come to you. You will make the decision.
Are you taking the sponsorship dollar? Are you taking the ownership dollar? And that's just

Speaker 3 evaluating the economics and whether you believe in the product. There's a lot of things that go into that.
Yeah. Ari, how much of your time are you spending trying to figure out

Speaker 4 where like all these next-gen AI tools either help you, give give you maybe operating leverage to actually go and be even more creative, own the content versus maybe disrupt some of the legacy folks you've worked with?

Speaker 3 You know, we have a whole program being set up at TKO and William Morris about kind of how AI can help us.

Speaker 3 On the production side, there's a whole nother that the studios are doing and our clients are doing.

Speaker 3 You know, I have I've made a decision. I don't know enough about AI.
I'm not smart enough to know enough about AI. I've made a decision that live is content, is where I'm going to sit.

Speaker 3 I'm really good at that. I'm really good at monetizing that.
So we have a pure play sports, sports entertainment business.

Speaker 3 I just launched, which will launch in October, kind of what I believe is the next kind of live events business.

Speaker 3 You know, you have our sports business, you have Live Nation and Michael Rapinoz and Incredible. That's pure play music.

Speaker 3 And I think there's, when we were a public company, now we're a private company, we had 700 events inside Endeavour.

Speaker 3 I have, it will be completed in the first week in October, bought a lot of those, raised about $2 billion and about $900. And I'm going to go pure play and events.
Because I think it's the opposite.

Speaker 3 If you have AI over there,

Speaker 3 the opposite bet on AI is not data centers. It's

Speaker 4 want connection.

Speaker 3 Keep going back to live. And I think...

Speaker 3 It's kind of like a four-day workweek now, probably going down to three. I was seeing Elon and seeing the robots.
probably three day work week for full employment.

Speaker 3 They're going to be a lot of free time. We definitely all need connections as we can see right here.
And so my whole thesis is live.

Speaker 3 And I think on the William Morris side, which is incredible, there's only two representation business. William Morris is the biggest one of all of them.
And there's going to be more room for content.

Speaker 4 I want to slow down and double-click into this. Just wait.

Speaker 3 So we work Monday through Friday. Saturday?

Speaker 3 I don't think a lot of people work Monday through Friday anymore. But I'm saying like, we used to...

Speaker 4 Yeah, we used to. Monday through Friday.
Saturday, you're schlepping the kids to soccer. Sunday, you get a rest day, watch some football, then rinse and repeat.

Speaker 3 That's all a lie now. That's going away.
No, no, no. Right now, drive times, average drive times in America, 11 to 4.

Speaker 3 So people are doing their chores. 11 to 4.
Doing their stuff that they have to do on the weekends, in the morning or in the afternoon. They have their mobile phones.
They're doing their stuff.

Speaker 3 Thursday, hotel bookings are way up. Way up.
So

Speaker 3 three-day weekends. I'm shocked.
What?

Speaker 3 This is so infinite coffee

Speaker 3 from back there. You should start drinking coffee.
Because if you just look at the data, we're at four-day work weeks now.

Speaker 3 I think it's going to three-day work weeks. Which means more time for entertainment is your key piece to it.
Sachs, you wanted to get in.

Speaker 3 Well, I was going to spill on something Jama said, which is you have so many different things you're involved in. How do you decide how to prioritize your time? Because you could be

Speaker 3 helping William Morris clients.

Speaker 3 Representation could be a never-ending job by itself. You've got TKO.
You could could be looking for new acquisitions. How do you decide how to spend your time? Thank God, I have ADHD.

Speaker 3 Listen, actually, this Friday is two years since we did the merger at TKO.

Speaker 3 We merged at, I think, $100 and then went down to $79. Anybody says they don't look at their stock price, I look at it every like 19 times a day.
Yesterday we hit 200.

Speaker 3 We're doing, I think, everything we said we were going to do with regard to kind of streamlining the two businesses, integrating them.

Speaker 3 We brought over in February PBR on location and IMG, which kind of fills out the suite of what we do at TKO for everybody that wants sports.

Speaker 3 We've made our broadcasting deals, and we're just kind of powering away at what that, you know, focused on what we have to do. Are you personally at this point just kind of out of representation?

Speaker 3 No, no, no. Or do you dip down sometimes and help clients? How do you see that?

Speaker 3 You know, being in the representation business, whether it be Martius Gorsesi or Dwayne Johnson or Mark Wahlberg or Peter Berg or

Speaker 3 a whole host of my clients, Aaron Sork, enables me to make the deals over at TKO because I'm in the conversation

Speaker 3 with YouTube, Amazon, Netflix, all the people I need to be in business.

Speaker 3 And I do that.

Speaker 3 The running of that business now, I'm not in like, you didn't call this person back. I don't do that anymore.

Speaker 3 But in the representation of my clients and the clients of the agency, I'm in it every day because it does help the other businesses. Which platform are you the most obsessed with?

Speaker 3 YouTube, Netflix, all?

Speaker 3 Okay, but which one, if you have a client, do you think is the most important over the next five or ten years?

Speaker 3 Who's going to pay them the most amount of money and creatively enable them to do what they want? Well, let me ask you a question. This is a really important question.

Speaker 3 I was going to ask this of Neil as well.

Speaker 3 I've heard from a number of folks that have historically done production on Netflix that they want to move to YouTube because Netflix, like the margins are compressed, and so they're offering

Speaker 3 and so I've heard a lot of folks say, well, if I go independent, I have unlimited upside. If I publish on YouTube, I just need financing.
Is there an emergency?

Speaker 3 Listen, those are different.

Speaker 3 It depends on where you're at. If it's a YouTuber, Right.
And they want to scale up. And they want to scale up and they have X amount.
They'll probably start start on YouTube or

Speaker 3 start at Facebook or start on Twitter. Once they get to a certain level, they'll make a decision.

Speaker 3 Do they have a product that's right for a half hour or an hour on Netflix or a feature film?

Speaker 3 That's different from what YouTube's business plan is. And Neil will talk to you about that.
So, again,

Speaker 3 you can't generalize that kind of thing.

Speaker 3 Are you seeing a burgeoning of independent financing for production that would go out on YouTube? Like, where folks are saying, I just need production financing.

Speaker 3 Find me some partners, and then you mean for a YouTuber? For YouTubers, yeah, I mean, sometimes.

Speaker 3 That's not something you're seeing kind of scale up right now. I'm definitely not in that space.

Speaker 3 David,

Speaker 3 that's not something I do see. There's people in my company that do, we have a whole division for YouTubers, et cetera, podcasting.
That's a whole group that we've started.

Speaker 3 It's very successful right now. Ari, there was a time when the dream of content creators was being able to own their IP.

Speaker 3 Netflix came in and said, hey, we'll pay you much more, but you don't get to own The Simpsons anymore. You don't get to own this IP.

Speaker 3 Yet. Well, remember, the syndication model as broadcast television started to fade away as this, but there was a, at the beginning, there was a third window, which was Netflix.
Now,

Speaker 3 the cable and the station group window has kind of dissipated a little bit. Right.
Right. But

Speaker 3 when you still,

Speaker 3 when you make a deal at a broadcaster, smaller now,

Speaker 3 you do have a bidding war between Netflix, whether it be if you're at NBC, Peacock,

Speaker 3 we just finished a big, we're finishing up a big deal for the office, which started on broadcast. The new stuff, they're buying out, yes.

Speaker 3 Yeah, so you don't have this opportunity to do what the Simpsons did, to do what South Park did, to do what Seinfeld did. But you yourself are standing there.

Speaker 3 And the last deal I just made for South Park is pretty good for the guys. No, I know, but that seems to be the last generation to get that.

Speaker 3 This new generation seems to be just giving their IP IP over to Netflix. You yourself are saying, I want to own the IP, and you're choosing to buy them.
So what is your advice to the clients?

Speaker 3 Because they can't become billionaires if they don't own IP.

Speaker 3 So there's a client.

Speaker 3 There's a client by the name of Noah Holly. He just had the Alien Earth show that it premiered on at Disney.

Speaker 3 He did Fargo also.

Speaker 3 Incredibly talented guy. I just signed him, right?

Speaker 3 He's going to make a new new deal. Now,

Speaker 3 back in the day, Greg Daniels or Larry David or Aaron Sorkern or Jim Brooks clients made

Speaker 3 an unbelievable amount of money.

Speaker 3 Jim did well. All of those people, I said, did very, very, very well.
Yes, he will not make as much money as they did in syndication,

Speaker 3 but he will do very, very, very well. So if you're really talented and you have success, you will do really well.
And when it gets re-aired and resold, he'll do very, very well. It's not

Speaker 3 if you have a show that goes into syndication and it gets $6 million an episode, you can't make $500, $600 million anymore. But you can make.
Tens of millions.

Speaker 3 More than that, but you can do very, very well. You weren't crying.
You're famous for fighting hard. In fact, there was an iconic character created on Entourage for that.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 Which was your favorite fight? Is it Sherry, Azoff? Was it Justin Baldoni, Mike Ovitz? Which did you get the most pleasure fighting with? Of all these iconic fights you had to do.

Speaker 3 You know, like I just said, all.

Speaker 3 No, I mean,

Speaker 3 when you're at the beginning of your career 30 years ago and you do not have the ability to change price,

Speaker 3 and you have, at the time, you had William Morris, ICM, UTA, CAA,

Speaker 3 and you're the fifth, and

Speaker 3 you have to fight really hard because people just think you're a chump. Right.

Speaker 3 And I don't, yeah, when people don't think, because I'm dyslexic, I remember growing up, anybody that thought I was stupid, they touched the third rail.

Speaker 3 And so when you were growing up in this business and everybody thinks, oh, you're just

Speaker 3 pushover.

Speaker 3 I'm not good there. Any chance, no, but this is a, and this is a serious question.

Speaker 3 Bringing Entourage back. Why hasn't this happened? We love this.
We grew up on it. How many people want to see the reunion?

Speaker 4 You're the guy who can make it happen.

Speaker 3 I'm friends with Adrian Greener. I talk to him all the time about it, and he says, no, I have a choice.
Are you guys having David Zasloff on this panel? No. No, Zasloff.

Speaker 3 I think you guys should call him. I don't know.
Is he holding the strings? Well, yeah,

Speaker 3 HBL. HBO.
But you're RE. You could go and just tell them to do it.

Speaker 3 Let's help that deal happen. Please.
On competition, was Michael Ovitz a mentor to you or a competitor? I worked for Mike.

Speaker 3 I was in the mailroom, then I was on a desk.

Speaker 3 He was incredible. And

Speaker 3 he kind of changed the business. Before him was Lou Wasserman.
They would be on Mount Rushmore. I think Mike did so many things right.

Speaker 3 I mean, he was a visionary for the one thing when I was a young guy looking at it and looking back at it, you know, he started, he took Coke. I think it was from Gray Advertising at the time.

Speaker 3 I think it was gray and I always said to myself at the time like

Speaker 3 he had so much currency at the time why didn't he buy gray advertising and he could have changed the dynamic of the agency he could either take it public

Speaker 3 and so that one and then I was at this company called inner talent they got bought by ICM ICM like had the greatest agents all and it just was bad management

Speaker 3 And then we started the firm. And I just said, you know, I'm not going to have a bad culture like ICM

Speaker 3 and when the opportunity comes I'm gonna go for assets that I could own and change kind of the dynamic of what an agency and what representation and what and that's what no one had done before is think in terms of equity yeah are there any assets that you don't own that you wish you did or would you like to buy a studio would you like to buy sports teams what I don't want to buy a studio I don't want to buy a sports team okay I just started this company.

Speaker 3 I raised about $2 billion. I'm going to start this big events company.
So my plate's really full. I'm loving life right now.

Speaker 3 And

Speaker 3 yeah, I mean, TKO is in a great place right now with all the deals we made. We have a great partner in

Speaker 3 David Ellison. And you saw what happened at the VMAs where our thought process, they put it on MTV, they put it on CBS, and they put it on streaming.
The largest audience they ever got.

Speaker 3 That's going to be the same thing for the UFC. And now Bob Iger and Jimmy Patara are going to launch

Speaker 3 the WWE on ESPN. I think it's going going to be incredible for that asset.
So? Do you think that all sports?

Speaker 3 There's nothing left right now.

Speaker 3 We're launching, you know, we have a big fight this weekend, the Canelo fight with Netflix. So we're in a good place.

Speaker 4 Ari, do you think that all sports continue to do well in the future or will some sports have to adapt for the fact that kids have a shorter attention span, they just need faster action?

Speaker 4 Like, what happens to things like baseball?

Speaker 3 What happens to maybe the slower, more prolonged sports? You know, I think everybody's going to have to adapt. The thing I like about our sport is

Speaker 3 like the UFC, it's fast. It's fast.
Bull riding, eight seconds. You know, you get it.
You can watch it on your phone.

Speaker 3 WWE is family entertainment, and all of them are,

Speaker 3 both the UFC and the WWE are huge global brands. I think all of them, except, you know, I had a conversation with Roger Goodell yesterday.
I was like, how many storylines can you get?

Speaker 3 It was an unbelievable weekend, except for Monday night night when the Bears lost. But

Speaker 3 I think a bunch of them are going to have to adapt. And I think for some of them, pricing is going to have to come down because

Speaker 3 I don't think

Speaker 3 the U.S. domestic market is the right place for them.
As it relates to hockey and baseball, the big ones,

Speaker 3 they've done an incredible job adapting to the kind of new environment.

Speaker 4 I think baseball's cut like 40 minutes off of the average. Yeah.

Speaker 3 They're really. It's incredible what they've done.
They've always been innovative when they launched BAM, and they've been ahead of the curve. What do you think about international markets?

Speaker 3 Obviously, India and China, huge markets. The NBA has done an exceptional job.
They're probably going to have something in Europe.

Speaker 3 The Knicks, my Knicks, which are going to win the chip this year, they're going to be playing in Abu Dhabi, their preseason games.

Speaker 3 How do you view the internationalization of these live events? I mean, just look at the Brazil game for the NFL. Incredible.

Speaker 3 Look at what baseball did when they launched the Dodgers and the Cubs in Japan. Everybody's realizing the value that can happen now.

Speaker 3 We just had a UFC event in Shanghai, which we have a facility in a PI.

Speaker 3 We're going to Abu Dhabi. We've always, in ours, been international.
It's a requirement for continued growth in the sports that you have to go international.

Speaker 3 All of them are going to adapt a little bit and try and figure that out.

Speaker 4 I want to shift and ask a personal question. You come from an incredible family.
Your brother Zeke is an incredible doctor. Your brother Rob worked at the White House, was mayor of Chicago.

Speaker 4 You're an incredible.

Speaker 4 ambassador to Japan now, yeah. You're an incredible entrepreneur and businessman.

Speaker 4 Is there a competitiveness? Has there ever been competitiveness amongst the three of you as you guys are?

Speaker 3 Why do you think one's in Chicago, one's in Washington, one's in LA? These cities are like madness when they come together, like you know, like they explode. Yeah, I mean, really?

Speaker 3 Yeah, where did it come? Where did it wait? But where did it come from? Let me just take something. I'm winning.

Speaker 3 Where did it come from? And

Speaker 3 who did mom love most? You know, my mom mom says this all the time. My rom used to say, you don't love me as much as you love Zeke.
Zeke is

Speaker 3 the doctor and the vice provost of Penn. And she turns to him and she says to all of us, she goes, I hate you all equally.

Speaker 3 So that's where it comes from.

Speaker 3 Still trying to get mom's love. I got it.

Speaker 4 And what about your long-term, you have a long-term friendship with one of our besties, Elon? Yeah.

Speaker 3 How did that evolve? After 9-11, I gave up my Ferrari. I bought a Prius.

Speaker 3 Didn't really like the Prius. I was looking for a better car.
I read the article that he's launching.

Speaker 3 I just call him.

Speaker 3 He picks up,

Speaker 3 comes in the office. I say, I have to have one of these cars.
I think I got number 11. I still own it, the kind of the first model.

Speaker 3 And he and I have just been friends

Speaker 3 ever since. I just actually, on Tuesday,

Speaker 3 you know, I went up to see the robots because I want to do a UFC fight with his robots. And the robots.

Speaker 4 Meaning robots versus robots?

Speaker 3 Yeah. I think it would be incredible.
Yes. And I saw what he is creating.

Speaker 3 The man's a genius.

Speaker 3 The hand is incredible. Their ability to kind of...
He had one, he showed me one that was kicking

Speaker 3 and boxing. And when he talks about it, he talks about, you know, there's probably about 100 million people in the United States that actually are working bodies.

Speaker 3 When you have a robot, it occupies five people,

Speaker 3 works 24 hours a day,

Speaker 3 and there's no HR, there's no issues.

Speaker 3 He says the pro, you know, he goes through the protein, he goes through all the numbers, and it's an incredible argument, and I think he'll be able to produce a million of them.

Speaker 3 It's going to be really profitable. And they're going to cost a dollar an hour to operate.
And when I saw what the hand was doing, I think it was the third or fourth generation,

Speaker 3 I was like, it's incredible. And now the movement and the the charging that he's got down, it's really, he's a special human being in that capacity.
Really special.

Speaker 4 He really is an American treasure. Ladies and gentlemen, our Emmanuel, amazing.

Speaker 3 Thank you, great to you.

Speaker 4 Thanks. Don't crush it.

Speaker 4 Wow.