Mom's Car: Tim Lovestedt

Speaker 1 Hello and welcome to Mom's Car. Today we have another old friend of mine, Tim Lovestead, one of my first friends in LA.

Speaker 1 We did a lot of the groundlings together. He's incredibly funny.
He has an impressively girthy head. He's smart.
He's handsome and well endowed. Please enjoy Tim Lovestead.
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Speaker 1 But now that Pitt did video, I think it's kind of over. We'll just tell people like, well, Brad Pitt did video.
You fucking had Pitt. Yeah, last week.
No shit. So just give me a minute on that.

Speaker 1 Like, sir.

Speaker 1 Let me fire up the app. Did you fucking

Speaker 1 spray? Was he fucking great? He was awesome, Tim. It was so wonderful and all I could have hoped for.
He came in the best mood, so casual. And he mostly just was really happy and having a lot of fun.

Speaker 1 And I was like, even if I don't get anything story-wise new, you've never seen him like this in an interview. He's just having so much fun.

Speaker 1 And did he know sort of your legend with him and all that shit? Like all the bullshit you've talked about? Well, I had to tell him because, you know, I met him in AA.

Speaker 1 He found out I was going to a track day he was going to and he asked if I wanted to ride up with him on a helicopter. And I was like, yes.
I'd fucking go on donkey back.

Speaker 1 Are you fucking kidding? Yeah.

Speaker 1 There's no form of conveyance I wouldn't have joined him. I'd be throwing you on a jackass's back up a fucking hill just to hang out with you.
Absolutely. So I say yes to this.

Speaker 1 And now I have this new fear where like, what if he discovers that my last eight appearances on Ellen, all I've talked about is him. Like, I don't want him to get scared that I'm a weirdo.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 So I did have to say to him, I'm like, hey, you need to know, I do this bit pretty often.

Speaker 1 I certainly have done it a lot on Ellen where I go on and I talk about how in love I am with you, but no reason to worry. And he's like, you had a good sense of humor about it.

Speaker 1 Of course, you wouldn't have seen this. But then I was a guest host of Ellen while she was out of town.

Speaker 1 And when I got there, they said, hey, so we're going to have a surprise for you while the show's going on. Just know that.
We're going to show you a clip at some point.

Speaker 1 And I'm like, okay, so I do the monologue and everything. I sit down and I say, they're about to show me something.
I don't know what it is.

Speaker 1 And then what they show me is Brad Pitt was on the week before and it hasn't aired yet.

Speaker 1 And it's a clip of Ellen saying to Brad Pitt, I don't know if you know this actor, Dak Shepard, but he has quite a crush on you. And then they show him.

Speaker 1 a montage of all the insane stuff I've said about him, getting the painting of me and him together. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I'm like half terrified of what his reaction when they come out of the clip package. And he goes, well, I have to tell you something, Ellen.
I have a pretty big crush on Dak Shepard.

Speaker 1 And they're filming me and I'm the host of the show. And I'm just like laughing uncontrollably.
And I can't believe he said that in public.

Speaker 1 One of the things I brought up with him, I was like, look, I have two of you in my head. I have a dude I know.
And then I have Brett Pitt. And I'm not letting go of that.

Speaker 1 And I just juggle those two things. And they're different.
Do you have that with anyone? And he's like, yeah, I do. I had it with Redford.
He goes, I have it with Sean Penn.

Speaker 1 He's still the dude I want him to be.

Speaker 1 And he's still Sean Penn, but but then he's also the guy I know. And I was like, okay, good.
I'm glad to know

Speaker 1 that it's not just me. That's incredible.
It was lovely, though. And is that a heart out on that? Is it like you get 60 minutes? So they told us hard out at 3.30.
I think it was 2 p.m.

Speaker 1 But I had a hunch they're just being protective. So A, he was 10 minutes late.
So then who knows where we're at in that? But dude, we hit the two.

Speaker 1 hour marker and he was showing no signs of wanting to go or anything. So yeah, it was a good like 220 maybe.
Nice.

Speaker 1 And what a fun, like for him too, because he doesn't do, at least as far as, I mean, I'm not the media connoisseur, but he doesn't do a lot of that stuff.

Speaker 1 So I'm sure you guys were going through all kinds of fun stuff and he probably gets a kick out of it more than anything. Yeah, he just had a great attitude about the whole thing.

Speaker 1 And yes, I was shocked as I started doing my research on him. Usually I have so many different interviews I can watch with people.
And there's shockingly little amount of him in interviews.

Speaker 1 He doesn't go on the late night talk shows really. You know, he's done Ellen.
He did Oprah. I can't think of ever seeing him on a late night.
Yeah. I'm sure he's done him.

Speaker 1 Did you guys talk about Jesse James? No, I knew you would want me to talk to. Oh, my God.
I'd spend two hours just on that movie. Yeah.
You might have not been the right man for the job. No, no, yeah.

Speaker 1 I would have honestly been so specific and weird with my questions. It would not have been easy.
You take a pause mid-word. Not even a beat between words.
Mid-word. I'm having an argument with myself.

Speaker 1 Is that a trout or a salmon underneath the frozen lake when you shoot down at the water?

Speaker 1 Yeah, it would have been bad. But I had read that in a previous interview, when describing where he's from, Springfield, Missouri,

Speaker 1 he says, you know, it's Mark Twain country. It's Jesse James country.
So I do think he definitely identifies with that part of it. God,

Speaker 1 it's a good one. I think Monica summed it up best.
Well, luckily, because all the Formula One stuff was at the end, and once we were talking about cars and motorcycles, he was like ignited.

Speaker 1 Was that sort of the fulcrum of why he came on? Of course, you've always wanted him, but the F1 thing just sort of delivered him. 10 little things, right?

Speaker 1 Like, he had to bring Cooper out on stage for something. At one point, he said, Give me some things about Bradley.
I have to bring him out on stage. And as a thank you, I'll do armchair expert.

Speaker 1 Like, he just kind of threw that out there. And I'm like, yes, here's 10 funny jokes about Bradley.
Like, he's kind of flirted with doing it.

Speaker 1 But then if you're going to go talk about Formula One on a show, I'm not saying we're the best podcast in the world or anything, but you're not going to find a single person in show business that knows as much about Formula One as I do.

Speaker 1 So if you want to talk about how nitty-gritty they got, you really can only come to me. Our net likes F1, but I don't know the specificity of this truth.
Brad did a ton of the driving.

Speaker 1 We've been on the motorcycle track together. So I think that was a big element of it.
That's amazing. I'm so proud of you.
Oh, thank you. When you were airing it.

Speaker 1 So it'll come out on Wondry Plus Monday. Monday.
And then WIDE the following Monday. Let's say you recorded today with your guest.
How long does that take? What's the turnaround on that?

Speaker 1 It really depends where they're at in the schedule. So like we will interview people where their projects may be a full month out or month and a half out.

Speaker 1 Oh, so you sort of time it for she just edits as we need to do the fact check. That's like her finish line of when the edit has to be done so that she'll have had gotten her facts and everything.

Speaker 1 And then also it's going to be coming out within five days. So, all that needs to be done.

Speaker 1 There have been like crazy quick turnarounds where it's like last minute we get a guess and it has to come out in four days. And the dream is when they give me a

Speaker 1 yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, someone just pitched for a book in September.
I'm like, Yes, that's exactly what we need. What was your day, Tam?

Speaker 1 Well, I work in wine, so I was all over Burbank, Glendale, and Eagle Rock, just getting counts because it's the beginning of the month. So, I was getting counts on the floor cases.

Speaker 1 Like, how many have sold in between? No, no, what we have on the floor, like displays. So my rep is in Budapest right now.
Okay. So I'm covering for her.
And then that was it.

Speaker 1 Do you think they couldn't have picked a better person to represent a wine product? Because you have the healthiest relationship with drinking of it. Annoyingly so that I've ever seen.

Speaker 1 It does get crazy when it crosses over into like, so are you a Merlot guy? Are you a Chardonnay? I'm like, yeah, I'm not really into any of it. Yeah, I'm a high life guy.

Speaker 1 If you have to drink some whiskey, I don't know duels i don't know uh you're duelers i'm a dollar but you also will party because when we were first becoming friends which i think we should get into the origin of that you were definitely like hey there's a patrick swayzee semi truck driving movie coming out i'll come over with a six pack let's go to the theater with a six pack and watch this semi movie well i don't mean to step on your toes but they were coors

Speaker 1 banquet tall boys

Speaker 1 this is where my drinking gets a little weird if you make a a tall boy available, I'm in. And especially like at the ball game, the Kings game here in LA.
Your hometown favorite. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 They have tall boys. I don't know if it moderates my drinking because I'm like, oh, I'm just going to have that.
You have plenty. You don't need to rush.
You don't need to panic. Right.

Speaker 1 And I love a tall boy. And that's what we did.
Was that Black Dog? Was that the name?

Speaker 1 I was just about to say Black Dog. With Randy Travis.
What a premise. Every truck driver will eventually see the Black Dog.
Yeah,

Speaker 1 he's too tired to drive. That was like the whole threat of the mind.
That was the whole moment of his mind. But also, so tired.

Speaker 1 Whoever wrote Black Dog, the great thing about any movie involving truck driving, you're just the potential gritty sequel to Smokey and the Bandit. Cause that's the only reason why we were there.
Yes.

Speaker 1 Because we were like, well, it's trucks. But do you remember? First of all, if you had semis in your movie, I was there.
That's also maximum overdrive.

Speaker 1 I don't think I was ever more excited for a movie. I'm like, wait, the semis go crazy? Yeah.
Or Convoy? It's like, yeah, it's Christopherson.

Speaker 1 I don't even know who the fuck that is, but it's trucks and a semi. Yeah.
When you're a little boy, semis are awesome. Oh, man.

Speaker 1 I just remember also, I had at a summer camp, this counselor, we would have to go to like a lake or out to the beach, and you're on the freeway, and he would want us on the opposing traffic.

Speaker 1 He'd be like, guess the truck before it gets close.

Speaker 1 And you got really good at like White Freightline or Kenworth or the Peterbilt or MAC.

Speaker 1 And so you'd be able to pick those trucks out. It was such a weird skill set.
You remember you weren't a boy. No.

Speaker 1 No. I was nine, but you didn't know your big race.
You were a fucking sissy. But what a weird skill set to develop as a child.
So you could do that, though.

Speaker 1 You could eventize like having a six-pack of tall boys and really dial into what is so joyful about that. Zero interest to have more than one or two.
I was always good at moderating my alcohol.

Speaker 1 And the irony that you got a DY and I didn't.

Speaker 1 The notion that I would be going to pick you up.

Speaker 1 And the worst part is, yes, bailing me out and the fact that I was in the jail that my dad worked at. Yes.

Speaker 1 And I'm sitting there. They're like, Lovestead, huh? I'm like, yeah, yeah.
Was he on duty? No, he had retired years ago, but there was probably two or three people who knew him.

Speaker 1 He retired before he died because he died really young, right? He did. He retired in 87.

Speaker 1 At what age? Oh, 30.

Speaker 1 28th. But but he did.
He retired at like 20. 48th birthday.
41 or 42.

Speaker 1 Really, and was that standard back then? No, he had been in for, I would say, maybe 18 years and he had health issues. I mean, he did not take care of himself.
Well, you said he was an LAPD detective.

Speaker 1 I think it's implicit that he didn't take care of himself right now in the 80s. And especially back then.
Was he smoking cigarettes? Smoking and drinking every night.

Speaker 1 And I think it's probably the reason why I never liked drinking too much. We all have the drunk family members that ruin it for us.
I love a tall boy too.

Speaker 1 Well, you know, I'd love it how it came in any size, but I was always doing quick math at the liquor store.

Speaker 1 You go to the cooler and you got a 12-pack, a case that's maybe on sale, three tall boys for five bucks, or something else going on. And I go, all right, how many ounces is in this deal?

Speaker 1 And then I got to add the fucking Michigan deposit on there.

Speaker 1 That's the most thinking you had done.

Speaker 1 really kept yourself sharp by going there and crunching those numbers.

Speaker 1 Yeah, my thing was, you remember when you come see me when I lived in Santa Monica? My hack was I had figured out the 32 ouncers of High Life were $1.19 at Save On. I'm like, you model that out.

Speaker 1 That's a fucking six-pack for three bucks. Like, what are we talking about? You introduced me to the 32-ouncer.
I didn't even know they made such a thing.

Speaker 1 Nor the beer. Yeah, no one wanted it.
So they were always slashing price. People were like, what is that?

Speaker 1 I'll just get a six-pack pack if i want to drink 30 plus ounces of beer my preference of course is the worker now did you and i dub it that or did nate and i dub it that i of course feel like i was involved

Speaker 1 so the tall boy's 16 ounces and the workers 24 ounces two two cans of beer referring to is the worker the worker yeah yeah i like that one the worker is the way to go you got to earn that beer yeah that's made for the big boys who get offer when you get off work yeah i mean you know what?

Speaker 1 You're allowed to have that at lunch. Also, you had to be deliberate with it because if you weren't, it got warm in your hand and the beer tasted like piss by the time you got through.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you couldn't. So you had to really get after it.
There's a time crunch. There's a ticking clock.
Guys, we're on the clock. Yeah.
Okay.

Speaker 1 There we go. That's all.

Speaker 1 That's a juice. It's going to be an all-day.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 That's going to be like six pickups.

Speaker 1 Yeah, this might get messy. Ah, our favorite place.

Speaker 1 We have picked up from here

Speaker 1 about a half dozen times now. What was the store you worked at? Vaughn's.
Vaughn's. And then I worked at Gelson's.
Why do I picture you in there? Well, I worked there forever. I know.

Speaker 1 I'm like, did we see you? Did I see you? You guys might have rolled in there. There's some stories that have taken place at the grocery store that I always tell.

Speaker 1 Like, first and foremost, that Tim blew his ACL out, just standing in the same place. I know.
And then hit the deck.

Speaker 1 It was one of those pains that was so, whatever it was, it was something in my leg where I couldn't move, where it stung me. And I was in the checkstand.
I'm like, what is?

Speaker 1 So then they put me on light duty and I had to sit in the manager's office and like stamp these papers. You know, the punishment was way worse than the pain.
By the way, that food smells fucking.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 Go ahead. Tigle up.
Yeah, that condition is open enough. Can we get a little careful? What are we doing? But it was interesting, like when we were all at the ground lanes.

Speaker 1 So maybe I I want to go chronologically how we get to the ground links, but just the notion that people had all these different jobs. Most people were waiters.

Speaker 1 A lot of people were doing enough commercials that they were kind of self-sufficient, didn't have jobs. I was working at shows and shoots.
And then Tim was in the union.

Speaker 1 Well, no, it was like a clerk and a checker, throwing product, doing all that stuff. But, you know, as you get older and you look back, it's like, there were people that didn't have to work.

Speaker 1 Like, what an advantage to have that kind of capital where you were like, yeah, all I do is audition and I take extra classes and I'm always available if you want to write a sketch.

Speaker 1 My time was so regimented. It was like, look, I can write for maybe an hour and a half in the morning.
Yeah, that had to be really challenging.

Speaker 1 Not just me, but for a lot of people, because you didn't have that clean slate and all that money where your rent was being paid. And it was such an advantage.
Yeah, big time.

Speaker 1 Okay, so we met through Kareem, who we had met in Santa Barbara

Speaker 1 on our road road trip. And then I looked him up when I got here and he had mentioned like groundlings as something.
Like I didn't know how to get into comedy and he was who told me how.

Speaker 1 And then you guys had already known each other from a different comedy.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we were at a theater in the valley where we were doing improv, but I loved Kareem because he had a little bit of a fearlessness to him. I just wanted to hang out with that guy.

Speaker 1 Like he was super funny. Remember he was doing the alternative comedy thing.
And I just remember going like, oh, it's so scary. Like all these guys are so good.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 And he also pushed the limits on that. He was doing things that people back then were like, what are you doing? So then you and I had met.

Speaker 1 And I remember we hung out outside of Kareem, which is always a weird thing. Well, that's the thing I remember.
I invited you over to my house.

Speaker 1 I think eating something simple to watch a movie or something. No, I think I was cooking you spaghetti.
Oh, that's cool. With the carrots in it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It was delightful.

Speaker 1 I'm kind of proud of myself for that invite because it's so romantic at that age. I'm basically like, hey, do you want to come over and I'll cook you dinner? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but again, you weren't scared at all. No, because I'm tuned into the Midwest thing and I'm like, yeah, this guy who I just met is going to make me supper.
Let's go. Like,

Speaker 1 dude, carrots in it. You might have to nap afterwards.

Speaker 1 Tonight, totally.

Speaker 1 We'll go for a lunch walk in there. You're going to see better than you've ever seen.
Throw those glasses right in the garbage. I think you made me like a beet salad.
The Greeks. Greek salad.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 That was when I had gotten the recipe for the dressing, but it yielded like eight gallons. Yeah.
That's what the restaurant would use.

Speaker 1 I was cutting it down as much as could be cut down, but at some point, some of the ingredients wouldn't work. So I did have to commit to like, I made two and a half gallons of this dressing.

Speaker 1 So I was constantly trying to get people to have Greek salad at my house. It was delicious, that Greek salad.
And then we hung out. We hung out a ton.
In my memory. Yeah.

Speaker 1 We became really good buddies. I feel like we were similar in that, like, it did not take much.
Let's get in the car car and go drive around Hollywood and see what kind of weird shit's happening.

Speaker 1 We also sort of weren't invested in it. I know that sounds weird to say.
We liked making fun of whatever was happening for the sake of making fun of it.

Speaker 1 I don't really care that there's other people here. I just want to make that guy laugh.
So we were just making each other laugh the whole time. A lot of nights spent driving around.

Speaker 1 Then a lot of nights going up to Cream's. And then Crane would move throughout the city and he'd introduce us to kind of a whole new way of thing.
Then he was in Hollywood.

Speaker 1 Just like out of swingers, we'd end up going to these parties in the Hollywood Hills that none of us were invited to and you'd take eight cars. It was kind of our gateway.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 I feel like I started Girlings before you, but then I had a big break and you started after. I was thinking about this the other day.
So we were friends.

Speaker 1 I had gone through that advanced part where you basically do two shows. And after those two shows, they're separated by five or six weeks.

Speaker 1 I forget the exact amount, but you do five weeks of classes, then there's a show, another five weeks, then you do a show.

Speaker 1 And based on those two shows, they decide if they want you in the Sunday company. Well, they had decided that they wanted to have me repeat.
And it was really disappointing.

Speaker 1 I loved the people that I was with. Andre Savage was in that group, Jim Cashman, Steve Little.
Those were my people.

Speaker 1 And I was definitely disappointed. And then I got re-ignited into it after a while.
Really quick, was there a battle, though, with your pride at that moment? Like, I can't repeat.

Speaker 1 I don't know if I was like, oh, well, that was a big injustice or whatever. I didn't have that issue.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 But of course you're disappointed because in your mind, you're like, okay, well, those are my friends. I'm going to go up with them and we're going to be in the Sunday company.

Speaker 1 So then what happened is after some time, they had called me and said somebody had quit. from the current advanced show.
Did I want to hop in? You guys had already started.

Speaker 1 And that was your group with with Caitlin and Josh. Which I had had a huge gap between level three and four because I was going to UCLA and whatever other reasons.
Yes. And I knew that you were in.

Speaker 1 It was Mary Jo who called and I said, you know, Mary Joe, let me call Dax. Because my thing was like, well, this is your experience.

Speaker 1 I don't want to be like your buddy showing up in your advanced late doing fucking Tim Lovestead shit, like yelling and screaming at the audience. And you were obviously awesome about it.

Speaker 1 You were like, if you want to do it, I mean, mean, we've already been in for a couple of weeks. It's one of those decisions where I was like, yeah, of course I want to do it with my buddy.

Speaker 1 Who gives a shit? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And we did it and it ended up great.
Like we both went on to Sunday.

Speaker 1 But yeah, it was a little daunting because you guys had already known each other and I didn't really know anybody. Was Larry in our group? Yeah.
Larry, I knew Larry.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I remember being so jealous of Larry because he was in like seven national running commercials at any given time. He like drove Alexis and maybe had a condo.

Speaker 1 And I was like, this dude is fucking right or it's iron. Yeah, Larry, Larry, Larry was definitely in so many commercials.

Speaker 1 Not only did he do a good job with that, but he also handled quite effortlessly our clear jealousy. Everyone there is going to commercial auditions and not getting one.

Speaker 1 He had a great sense of humor and self-deprecation about his raging success.

Speaker 1 We almost suffered from, and I think this would be a problem like if Aaron and I went through together too, which is like, our sense of humor is already 10 jokes down the road.

Speaker 1 It's so specific already. To catch you up to why we started here, it's like you almost needed a year of inside jokes before you would think that was funny.

Speaker 1 But we had that stupid sketch where we were duck hunters

Speaker 1 and all we talked about was how exciting it was about to get.

Speaker 1 And then like we kept checking in with the audience like, right now it's quiet, but in about four to five minutes, things are going to get very exciting.

Speaker 1 There's going to be a fervor of activity.

Speaker 1 i mean we talked about how exciting the excitement was gonna be yeah

Speaker 1 stupid nothing ever happens oh my god also what an innocent era we had a 30 out 6 and a 12 gauge shotgun in the theater in the theater yeah

Speaker 1 i didn't go to drama school like i didn't know you could bring that firearms weren't welcomed in the creative space yeah oh

Speaker 1 and even the notion that we both had some weaponry to bring Yeah, I had like my dad's gun. Yeah, yeah.
Your dad has a gun. I was like, yeah, he's got a bunch of them.

Speaker 1 So this week, the people that we were chatting with, I've been kind of trying to think of like a broader theme. Have you ever met my friend Ryan Hansen? Yes, but like glancing.

Speaker 1 Okay, so Ryan, when I think of him, I think popular. No matter where he's at, he's like the most likable.
He's charming. He can do backflips.
He was an athlete. He's kind.

Speaker 1 He's cute. And so I really want to talk about just like being popular.
The one I wanted to talk about with you, only if you're open to it, feel comfortable with it.

Speaker 1 I have an enormous amount of, I guess you would call it survivor skill from the groundlings. Okay.
Because I have Josh Nathan, who I just thought was. A fucking brilliant genius.

Speaker 1 He was a machine, like a writing machine. Every one of his were pretty damn good.
His consistency rate was off the charts.

Speaker 1 In the gap between throwing something up on Wednesday and it hitting the stage on Sunday, he always had the smallest gap. Yes.
And I'll say he was a better actor than I was.

Speaker 1 Like he just had a lot of skills that I certainly didn't have, as did many people in there. I don't think anyone could really be there unless you're Melissa, maybe.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 And think like, I'm the shit here. Right.
I don't know if you agree. I was just a gnaw of pretty much everyone's talent that was there.

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Speaker 1 And so you feel what? The notion that some people hit the jackpot and some didn't feels terrible on my side. Okay.

Speaker 1 I mean, I'm delighted I hit the jackpot and hit the lottery, but I also just feel like there is just no justice.

Speaker 1 There are a lot of people that certainly deserve to hit the jackpot, if not the same amount as me, more more than me. And I feel bad about that.

Speaker 1 And I was just curious what the experience from being in it and having some people around you pop in really significant ways.

Speaker 1 You know, there's a lot of people in our circle that not only got big, but got kind of massive. I mean, Kristen Wigg was in Sunday company with me.
And when she becomes this thing, it's crazy.

Speaker 1 All in our tenure, like Ben and Melissa, Ben Falcone, and Melissa McCarthy. Yeah.
Even Octavia Spencer, who hung around. There was that one Academy Academy Awards where Ben and Nat were nominated.

Speaker 1 Or Jim and Nat. I'm sorry, Jim and Nat.
Nat Fax and Jim Rash. There's four of us that are at the Academy Awards now.
Nominated. Cause Lynn Olson,

Speaker 1 she's incredibly successful.

Speaker 1 I just think there's so much in the world that I can't control. There's only so much that I can control.
You know, there's a lot of it that's timing and luck. Oh my god, yeah.

Speaker 1 But also what everyone I know is going to become famous, like that's not reasonable at all. I get a kick out out of people getting a kick out of my friends.

Speaker 1 And to me, it was always more about, I wouldn't give that time away for anything.

Speaker 1 And all the other stuff, nobody knows what it was like for all of us to be there late on a Wednesday night with Guy Stevenson putting up another gorilla sketch or robot or like Callie McIntyre on a bike on stage doing a sketch that she had written on a dinner napkin.

Speaker 1 All of those things, those are mine. Yeah, yeah.
And they're way more fun.

Speaker 1 What I would want to say, but then would stop myself because I would be afraid it would sound patronizing, is and I've said it without you present a million times, it never got better.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that was it.

Speaker 1 Being in the Sunday company, yeah, having like a show to do on Sunday, and actual people came and they paid money and they wanted to be there, and it was sold out, and they loved it.

Speaker 1 That's about as great as it ever felt. And that theater sold out every night.
We never had to say, bring friends. My only, because I did two years in the Sunday company, which is kind of unheard of.

Speaker 1 I just wish I knew at the time that two years like swallow it up. There always felt like every six months there's this end game.
And it's hard to enjoy it because you're always a little panicked.

Speaker 1 You're going to get kicked out. Yeah.
And it becomes this competitive thing. And you're counting other people's sketches.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 It's a competitive environment. Yeah.
And only so many are going to get in. What a gift, especially at that time.

Speaker 1 You look at the time we're in now and things have changed so much but in that time you could really let loose you could create to your maximum sounds weird to say but potential no matter how deep you wanted to dig on the weird things you thought were funny you did have a space to do that yeah yeah yeah even more fun was wednesday oh because you're putting up sketches that ultimately the director will go you can't do that

Speaker 1 and that's like what you want to do you pretty much want to write the sketches that you can't and also like watching your friends try stuff

Speaker 1 and then also not try stuff where you're like, you're doing another one of those ones. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So that's how you feel now.

Speaker 1 You never went through a depression or a sourness or anything, bitterness? This is a funny memory, but we went to the Without a Paddle premiere, which was at, was that at Warner Brothers? Paramount.

Speaker 1 Paramount. And they had built a lake.
Flooded the. Flooded the parking lot or whatever.
Yeah, they had a tank that they would film like naval scenes in.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and you can rent like a canoe or something.

Speaker 1 Well, just, yeah, people's seats were canoes yeah and I remember being with Caitlin we were walking to the bar for us it was weird it's like what is this and why is Dax in a movie like this is fucking incredible and why is there a lake there was a lot yes and somebody walked by me that was on the crew of that movie and they were talking to someone else and they said yeah man it's crazy dax has always been that way and i was like

Speaker 1 first of all

Speaker 1 there's no way you've known dax that long but then it also set my mind right as to like the trajectory of how these things go that success or that experience is becoming its own thing and it's not for me to covet like i can't sit and fight against that guy's memory or the way he talks about you it's like yeah he doesn't even know aaron weekly how the can he say dax he's been like that forever right and he doesn't know 10 aaron weekly stories yes so that sort of set me up for that famous friends experience.

Speaker 1 My friends are going to be my friends, not based on the fact that they're famous, but because we are friends. Yes.
So that sort of set me up, that one guy, that grip on that movie.

Speaker 1 And then, you know what, you did a way better job of and that I'm quite envious of because like, as we were saying, the poker game. I just started going to that poker game again.

Speaker 1 I think I've gone twice. And it was like through a series of bumping into

Speaker 1 Ben enough, I guess, where he invited me, which is like, I couldn't wait to go. And it was so fun.
But you did a much better job. Probably the most profound feeling is like getting kicked out.

Speaker 1 I felt ashamed of that. I was embarrassed to have been kicked out of the Sunday company.

Speaker 1 And then in the embarrassment, I was also resentful at whatever group of people I determined were a part of that decision. I just left with a bad taste in my mouth.

Speaker 1 You know, I did not leave on great terms. More than half of the people probably have that experience.
Yeah, it's got to be, right? Because there's so few slots on the main stage.

Speaker 1 through numerous reasons. I both got really busy.
I got to go do movies all over the place.

Speaker 1 I was like starting that whole experience, but I didn't do a good job maintaining those groundlings friendships. And you did, you stayed very dialed into that whole crew.

Speaker 1 And I'm pretty envious of it, especially like when I went to poker. I was like, Oh, yeah, I miss this so much.
This is so fun. You and I stayed friends, I'll add that.
Yeah, you and I.

Speaker 1 But I've always liked being part of a team. I know that sounds really weird.
When it all ended, since I was the sort of senior guy, like whenever we would do things, I had to help organize it.

Speaker 1 I was like being part of a team. So that part of it, I don't know, I just carried on with it.
Right. You know, I wish I could see those people more.

Speaker 1 But did you go through any, like when you were kicked out, what was your experience with that? Well, I mean, I did two years.

Speaker 1 So I definitely was not happy about it, but I sort of pivoted because I felt like after the Sunday company, I had developed a skill set that I had never had in my life, which was like a hardworking, every Wednesday I'm going to have my stuff written.

Speaker 1 Every Sunday, I'm going to perform. I'm going to line everything up.
And so I finished college after the Sunday company because I was like, well, I want a degree.

Speaker 1 So in order to do that, I'm just going to transfer all that hard work and network ethic. It takes you to a writing discipline, which is almost impossible to learn.
And the competitive part was.

Speaker 1 Okay, if I'm going to be doing this, then I need to do it. So that means investing time in the writing, investing time in the other people, investing time in making the show better.

Speaker 1 Because Sunday, I remember having shows where I was only in one sketch and I was like, that just can't fly. Right.
So I got to figure out how do I get on stage.

Speaker 1 Then you can get a little Machiavellian. Like, I got to give so-and-so a sketch.
Or I just yell more. I remember

Speaker 1 next week.

Speaker 1 I remember Josh coming up to me. I think I had four or five sketches.
It was. really great for me.
I did a couple of sketches that I really liked.

Speaker 1 And Josh was like, you're doing like four or five sketches where you yell. Do you think that's too much? And I was like, come on, man.
I'm like, I feel so good right now. You just killed me.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I'm just going to go. Are you concerned about your voice?

Speaker 1 Have you been taking throats?

Speaker 1 You weren't embarrassed when that happened to you. Or were you? No, I was worn out.
Okay. You're welcome to the reprieve.
Meet at door. Oh, you might get to know.

Speaker 1 I like to meet Jacob.

Speaker 1 Jacob sent for a surprise. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Oh, this is so close. This was a a freebie virtually.
Oh, dude. That's a crappie? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Nice little bit of

Speaker 1 ched. Now, a guy can make a living off these kind of deliveries.
That's right. Yeah.
So I guess maybe in summation, minimally, I don't need to carry as much survivor guilt in regard to you. No.

Speaker 1 You don't seem to be mad at me.

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 1 But you've also gotten to witness that now firsthand front row seat to how dynamics change around people who get success. Yes.
I don't know. Is it chicken or the egg?

Speaker 1 Did other people change and then they change or they change at all? Yeah, who changed here?

Speaker 1 Which one are you? Are you leaving?

Speaker 1 Let's talk about Axe. Jesus.

Speaker 1 That guy could not care less, Dax. No, no one can.
Nobody can. It's been a very humble.
No one likes to make eye contact anyone. You're like, just deliver it.
Dope.

Speaker 1 And then the people that do, they're more confused.

Speaker 1 That's that dude, but that's obviously not that dude.

Speaker 1 Why are you doing Those cameras, why does he have that? Now, as you might expect, when Kristen was with us, that took all the guesswork out of it. Yeah.
100% of the people that saw her in the backseat

Speaker 1 were like, why is Kristen Bell in the backseat? Let me ask you, do you resent her for all her success? No, I'm so grateful. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 Because there was a long period of us together where I don't claim that I was ever more famous than her, but I was definitely more recognizable than her.

Speaker 1 Kristen, for years, people would see her, and I'd see them even whisper to their friends like, that looks like that actress Kristen Bell.

Speaker 1 When they'd see me, if they recognize me, they're like, yeah, that's him. He's 6'9, the huge nose, the whole tattoos.
There was a long period where I would get blasted more than she would.

Speaker 1 And so in general, I'm fucking delighted that there's someone that people are more interested in talking to than me, which is unanimous at this point.

Speaker 1 If you bump into both of us, unless you're an arm cherry, you want to talk to Chris,

Speaker 1 like, go get him, girl. I'll be over here checking my phone.
I take pictures a ton.

Speaker 1 I'm delighted about it i got to experience it it's waning i'm less and less famous every day the longer i've not been on tv i you i can feel it and it's delightful yeah i almost feel like it's almost too good to trust like wait you don't get to be and then not get to be or get the perfect amount you want you get into a restaurant but then you're not taking a lot of pictures.

Speaker 1 I've seen from afar even from Michigan, it's definitely the other people that have changed.

Speaker 1 Oh, well, the people comforting you?

Speaker 1 Yeah, when Dax was first starting out on this journey, and must be nice to be on that movie.

Speaker 1 Hollywood, you know, whatever. Like, must be nice knowing how you gotta pay your rent.
He's the exact same. We got in the movie.
This is what we only could fucking wish for any of us, right?

Speaker 1 Or this is why we get excited. He did it because we knew he'd be the one to do it.
I always felt like I was the only one that stayed excited. I'm like, you guys suck, dude.

Speaker 1 And I'll spend my entire life sticking up for it. When I think back at the Crownlings, Caitlin told me one time, she was like, I always knew Dax was going to be famous.
And I was like, you did?

Speaker 1 Got it, right? But based on what? Is lack of headshots?

Speaker 1 Lack of representation. And that's, honestly,

Speaker 1 yeah, that guy in the fucking dip shit I hang out with was originally a pretty big drinking problem, that guy?

Speaker 1 You mean the guy that's collecting quarters so we can buy a tall boy? He's discharging his 12 gauge above the heads of some gangbangers

Speaker 1 racing to his apartment. Maybe it was a mistake, but none of that became tangible where it was like, I'm going to do this to get to SNL.

Speaker 1 Everybody said that, but for me, I was always more present than that. I have in a weird way

Speaker 1 felt like moving here is a blessing in a sense. Because me, Caitlin, we left our family and all of our friends

Speaker 1 to do this thing. So if we left everyone for nothing,

Speaker 1 that was going to be a big miscalculation. And I think for people like Jess lived here, he had his friends from home.
He could eat dinner at mom's house. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And I do wonder if that prevents a little bit of the pressure you would put on yourself otherwise if you moved here. I think there's truth in that.
But hence my devastation when that door shut.

Speaker 1 Like Saturday Night Live is completely off the table. There's no way for me to get there now.
That's over. This whole dream that's been going on for 10 years is done.

Speaker 1 To that point, too, I do remember people would from time to time audition for SNL while we were there. Yes.
And you would find out they didn't make it.

Speaker 1 And I remember thinking like, well, that's just crazy. So that guy can't be on SNL.
So it sort of spelled out a little bit of randomness of it, I guess. Well, that's what's funny.

Speaker 1 As you're even saying it, I'm remembering like, I did not think I would get to SNL. And yet I also was trying my hardest to get to SNL.
Right. Both things were true.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he's like, devastated, I was no longer going to get there, but I never even thought I would get there. I'm learning you're not as neurotic as me.

Speaker 1 I think that's what I'm learning from this whole conversation. Tim's like, psycho.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Totally. The thing he made it, he would have killed himself.
Jesus.

Speaker 1 And I actively was.

Speaker 1 Aaron, you want to take over on that wheel?

Speaker 1 I've got children.

Speaker 1 I think people being angry is funny.

Speaker 1 And I think people getting angry with themselves and embarrassing themselves is funny it always makes me laugh saying things in the worst spot is funny and for good or bad

Speaker 1 i know i was just having this debate with monica and alexander scarsgaard okay it's very swedish so the whole time i was just like all i wanted to talk about was like the difference between swedes and american it's so fascinating right but somehow it came up i'm like well let me get this straight when you guys walk into a room and you see a dude in a wheelchair do you not immediately go like Don't talk about running, don't talk about jumping, don't talk about how much fun you had like on a hike?

Speaker 1 I just start listing everything we got to avoid saying, but that goes for almost anything that's in a room. It doesn't even have to be as extreme as the wheelchair.
And they could not relate to that.

Speaker 1 And I thought that was like a human thing, but it's not. Do you do that? Of course.

Speaker 1 The guy with an eye patch. You're like, don't bring up guns.

Speaker 1 Don't bring up pirates.

Speaker 1 Don't bring up Johnny Dappy in my teacher. yes, guys.

Speaker 1 All right, you got a question? Yeah, Tim. And I'm wondering, because we don't know each other as well as we should.
Well, we don't know each other that well. No, of course, as well as we should.

Speaker 1 Just from today. I don't think you're as petty.

Speaker 1 Oh, man. Yeah, yeah.
I know. I'm feeling kind of bad about myself.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. In a great way.
Anyway, wrote this down beforehand.

Speaker 1 Do you ever brag about things that you were good at, but it's a flat-out lie? And

Speaker 1 that no one knows. Oh, like something that I'm not good at, but I would tell a story about how good I am at it.
Well, we'll go first so that you know the bar. Okay.

Speaker 1 I don't even know how we ended up admitting this to each other, but like I somehow admitted to him that at some point I told Guy from Groutlings

Speaker 1 who was bigger than me and stronger than me. Yes.
And I was trying to demonstrate my bona fides. Yeah, yeah.
And somehow he's, I said, I lived in Detroit.

Speaker 1 He said, oh my God, did you ever go to the Kronk gym? And I go, oh, yeah, all the time.

Speaker 1 I trained there. and I'm locked into this live with guy now going on 21 years.

Speaker 1 I still text him all the time, and he probably still thinks I trained at the Kronk gym with Tommy Hearns, with the Hearns, of course.

Speaker 1 I happen to just randomly say that to Aaron, and then he hit me with this. Yeah, so I told him that so much better.
I have been telling people I was a Marine

Speaker 1 Came with a lot of stories.

Speaker 1 Once you commit, you can't fucking, people want to know because it's a good story. Like, you were the key gone too? Of course I was overseas.
And he

Speaker 1 always knew. Yeah.
And Dax can't just quit with trained at the most fucking famous gym in Detroit. Like, there's more that comes along.
So you keep digging.

Speaker 1 And then I hope it doesn't get to where someone knows me good enough that knows that. So I have to keep it only between a certain group of people.
Do me a favor. Go tell my mom that I was a Marine.

Speaker 1 When he was a Marine, he boxed in the Marine. Oh, yeah, I boxed in the Marines.
Oh, my God. I'm sorry.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 That was the case. Yeah, yeah, sorry.
I boxed in the Marine. Oh, my God.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 It makes, you know, it's funny.

Speaker 1 A, it makes me so happy when you told me that story.

Speaker 1 And then also, like, my guilt and shame over having lied about that is 11 and when i heard that you said it i'm like oh this is adorable this is like a boy trying to be a big man as a marine and his dad was a marine it's so obvious what's going on

Speaker 1 i just told my dad

Speaker 1 he lied

Speaker 1 It's so funny because it's semi-small, but really big for you.

Speaker 1 Do you know what I mean? Like, it's not like I'm. And it becomes almost untenable.
Like, when Guy would bring it up, I'm like, oh, I'm panicked.

Speaker 1 Like, I can't remember what I, I tell him I met Emmanuel Lewis or Stewart or whatever the trainer was. Like, I said I had one.
Emmanuel Lewis. That's one of the most interesting things about you.

Speaker 1 It really is. Have you had Tommy Hearns on the podcast? Especially for Guy.
That was.

Speaker 1 You know, one thing I have lied about. Oh, God.
I loved.

Speaker 1 when I skateboarded as a kid. It was a big deal.
But I didn't skateboard for that long.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 my two best buddies, who I've known both since kindergarten, skated much longer than I did.

Speaker 1 And their stories, I mean, we have a famous story of Aaron got caught stealing wood from a construction site to make a ramp. And it was like at two in the morning.

Speaker 1 Aaron got caught by the cops and walked down the alley that everybody had hid and was like, all right, guys, come out. They know our names.
They know where we live.

Speaker 1 He rolled. And I always tell that story in the first person.
Sure. I was not there.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah. And half of the stories that any of those guys tell about skateboarding, I have adopted my own.
Yes.

Speaker 1 Because I love skateboard culture. I love skateboarding.
I got a job and I stopped skating.

Speaker 1 I've had this moment within the last year where it's like, I'm meeting someone new.

Speaker 1 This is when I would lay out this lie. And I go, when are we going to stop telling people this lie?

Speaker 1 Like, when I met people out here and I wanted to drive fast, I'd just be like, oh, I raced for years in Detroit. Like, just lie

Speaker 1 so that you would trust me to drive like an asshole. Yeah, when you get far from home, you got to keep on going.
Especially how you come out here. It's like, you just write your own story.

Speaker 1 I was a fucking black belt in Taekwondo in Detroit. I worked for the Edison.

Speaker 1 I invented the assembly line.

Speaker 1 I was an electrician. I was like, Mike, mundane.

Speaker 1 Someone was asking me where I boxed. Oh, no.
It never occurred to me where I would be boxing, right? You didn't tell out that part of your story. Yeah, I said I boxed on a ship.

Speaker 1 They're like, so you were on like a Navy ship? I'm like, yeah, exactly.

Speaker 1 The Marines, the Navy. You name our girls boxing loves, Iowa's boxing.

Speaker 1 We're all together. On a balance beam.

Speaker 1 I boxed a guy on an I-beam while building a skyscraper.

Speaker 1 Aaron comes by this naturally. I don't know if I have such an excuse, but the best part was, isn't his dad told us a story when we were working for him?

Speaker 1 His dad owned a roofing company and we roofed for him. He has his uncle Tom, who's incredible.
This is exactly what he sounds like. Man,

Speaker 1 what are you motherfuckers doing?

Speaker 1 Jim, it's that extreme. You're like, is he Cajun? Is he black? Is he

Speaker 1 long, long gray hair? Looks like a biker. So his dad was telling us that one time, they were both in Vietnam and his uncle is a medic.

Speaker 1 His uncle tells this elaborate story about jumping out of a helicopter and he's got his sidearm and he's got to start using his sidearm and then this happens and that happens.

Speaker 1 When I was hearing the story, I was like, I don't think they give the medics that. Smelling some bullshit.
He said he was shooting these motherfuckers with his, you know, machine gun and shit.

Speaker 1 Machine gun. So Aaron's dad hears this story.
It doesn't sit right. He said, I kill women and children.

Speaker 1 Which, by the way, is...

Speaker 1 I'm telling you, it's a smart tactic when you're a liar. You got to add some stuff that's unflattering to yourself to build credibility.
Well, you wouldn't be saying that, right? I killed a woman's.

Speaker 1 Oh my gosh. Oh, children's.

Speaker 1 So, Aaron's dad is at home a couple years after he heard this story from Tom, and he's fucking watching a rerun of MASH.

Speaker 1 And it's verbatim. Every single detail he had told his dad was from an episode of MASH.

Speaker 1 But to your thing with stealing stories, this is the God's truth because we've been together so much since we were 11.

Speaker 1 Sincerely, sometimes I don't know if it's his story or my story, but we were both there or we weren't. Especially on car shows, we were mostly on all the car shows together, but sometimes we weren't.

Speaker 1 It's just straight confusing without even trying to lie. Well, Timmy Love said, I love you to pieces.
Oh, I love you guys. Thanks for having us.
Well, we're like 30 years into friendship.

Speaker 1 It is really crazy. We're still alive.
Still alive. We're going to beat our fathers.
I know. You're in the club.

Speaker 1 How old was your dad? My dad, my dad was 42. Oh, yeah, and that's the new winner.
Yeah, you just took the lead. What's your dad? 54? 54.
Yeah, that's how old he was when he died.

Speaker 1 Yeah, those are insane numbers.

Speaker 1 It was 42. He was retired.
He didn't have any crazy.

Speaker 1 I don't know what's crazy that he died or was retired. Or that he died 10 years into his retirement.

Speaker 1 All right. Love you.
Yeah, love you too. Thanks, guys.