Hailey Bieber (FBF)

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Speaker 2 Hello.

Speaker 1 Haley Bieber, welcome to Call Her Daddy.

Speaker 2 Hi.

Speaker 1 How did you pick your outfit for today?

Speaker 2 I just wanted to feel comfortable and I feel like I just wanted to wear like jeans and a t-shirt and be cozy.

Speaker 2 But like still cute.

Speaker 2 Still like a little vibe.

Speaker 1 I feel like that's your entire vibe is always being comfortable looking and then having like a tinge of like super like sexy and cute, but like still like you can.

Speaker 2 I can't stand being uncomfortable. I like I'll do it for a certain amount of time.

Speaker 1 Time. Sorry.

Speaker 2 Amount of time.

Speaker 1 She's burping.

Speaker 2 Yeah, like I'm throwing up.

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Speaker 2 Sorry.

Speaker 2 When I say I will do it for a certain amount of time, I mean like if I have to like go be on a carpet for a second and it's just like the look is the look and there's like something like stabbing me in the side.

Speaker 2 Like I'll endure it for a second or a few hours and then.

Speaker 1 I need to tell you, one time I went to a fitting and this woman was like, oh my God, try on these heels and i was like whoa like those look aggressive and like they're the hailey bieber heels like they're the classic ones she always wears and i was like are they jimmy chu i don't even know haley i don't know i was like oh okay i guess i'll try them off haley wears them haley

Speaker 1 They were the most uncomfortable shoe I've ever put on in my life. I was like, what the fuck? How does she walk in these? It's the one, you know what I'm talking about? It's the one.

Speaker 2 It's the platform.

Speaker 1 Yes, but it's the, it's basically just the bottom of a shoe and then the string goes around your fucking.

Speaker 2 I used to be a ballet dancer and like dance on point.

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Speaker 1 So I think that the reason that really high heels don't bother me is because my foot is just like used to being like it doesn't care it's a gift because when i tell you i couldn't walk after i wore those i was like okay haley we're not on the same playing field she clearly knows what she's doing if you could trade closets or a sense of style with any of your friends who would it be

Speaker 2 It's so interesting because I feel like me and all of my friends have such different style that I think I'm trying to think of who I feel the most similar to.

Speaker 2 I think Kylie has a very amazing and fun closet that is just, I mean, who wouldn't want to share like trade closets with her? I'll trade houses with her too if she ever wants. I'm like, you know what?

Speaker 1 I think I agree.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 I think I'd take Kylie. We're also the same shoe size.

Speaker 2 What size are you? An eight.

Speaker 1 I don't want to overstep, but so am I, Handy.

Speaker 2 So if you have any hand-me-downs. So if we want to exchange shoes,

Speaker 2 it's not your heels. So, it's, I think it's so funny that I'm like thinking about, who can I actually like wear all their stuff? Like, well, she's an eight and I'm an eight.

Speaker 1 Right, I'm like, it's actually just a game, like, it, but you're like, no, a logistically, no, yeah, I'm such a logistical thinker.

Speaker 2 I'm like, but if I was to trade with this person and she's a size nine and a half, then I can't have any of the shoes. Like, Haley, this is not real.

Speaker 1 It's fantasy, it's a game. We can pretend.
Like, okay, but I love it. Okay, so, Kylie, hit us up.
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Speaker 1 You came in here. There's paparazzi taking photos of you.
It's a lot. How do you handle the pressure of being photographed for the world to see almost every single time you step outside?

Speaker 2 It's really funny because I was thinking about this coming over here and they were like following me in the car, which is like, it happens all the time. Whatever, like,

Speaker 2 I know that's going to happen if I'm in LA. There's not very many ways to avoid it.
They just sit at the bottom of like my street. So it is what it is.

Speaker 2 But I was driving and like sometimes when there's paparazzi following me, I have a flash in my head of like getting out with a baseball bat and literally destroying their car. Like

Speaker 2 I literally sometimes it like it makes me just so annoyed that I'm like, one of these days, I swear to God, I'm going to get out of the car with a fucking baseball bat and I'm going to like destroy their,

Speaker 2 this is a hypothetical situation, by the way.

Speaker 2 She's being hypothetical. I just like, and driving over here, I was like, I literally, like, that's my urge right now.

Speaker 2 And I'm like, at the same time, do I want to give anybody the power to like disturb my energy like that? No, but it's just like a feeling of

Speaker 2 it's just annoying. It's the feeling of like hitting a breaking point of like, I just, I can't stand it anymore.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 And

Speaker 2 some days are totally fine though, and some I can avoid it. And like I sometimes like get really lucky and like sneak different ways to like do it.

Speaker 2 But I think what I've come to terms with is like, that's going to happen in LA. Right.
You know what I mean? This isn't the like middle of nowhere, like, you know, where there's like actual privacy.

Speaker 2 It's like the land of where everything happens. Totally.
There's tons of people here. It's also like, I'm not the only person that deals with this.

Speaker 2 It's like so many people deal with it and it comes with the territory. And it's not like, I hate when people are like, well, you asked for this because it's like, I don't think that's like a

Speaker 2 real thing to say, I didn't ask for grown men to follow me around with cameras, but I do understand that it comes with the territory.

Speaker 1 It's hard to make friends when you're in a position where you don't know people's intentions, right? Do you have a hard time trusting people?

Speaker 2 Sometimes, sometimes. I feel like

Speaker 2 I'm the type of person and I've always been this way where I'm like, I trust people until they prove me wrong, which is like, I guess sometimes can be a dangerous way to be. I'm a people person.

Speaker 2 Like I love to connect with people. I love meeting new people.

Speaker 2 Sometimes I have a hard time with like becoming like friends with someone or close to someone, but like I love being cool with people and like being social and meeting people and knowing their story and like where are they from.

Speaker 2 I think that I have a lot of my friends that I'm very close to are people I've been close to for a long time. Some newer friends, some not, but I just think,

Speaker 2 yeah, I think there's sometimes that that aspect of like

Speaker 2 the distrust of like, I don't know what you want to be around for.

Speaker 1 Have you ever had someone take take advantage of you and your situation and like kind of love that it's like, oh, I get this lifestyle around her and like, how do you deal with that?

Speaker 2 My personality is very like,

Speaker 2 I don't do well with confrontation. I don't like to like confront awkward situations.
I'm trying to work on it. I'm trying to be better at that.
But I never want to like,

Speaker 2 I've always been the type of person where like, I don't want to like end things on like a sour note with a person because, especially if there's someone like in an industry where I have to see them, or like, if we're going to be out somewhere and I got to see you, like, I don't want to walk into a room and feel like I have beef with someone.

Speaker 2 Like, that stresses me out big time crazy.

Speaker 1 Even if it's so you can stick up for yourself.

Speaker 2 Yeah. We're working on that today.
Yeah. We're working on that today.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Even if it, that's something I struggle with.
Even if it's for me sticking up with myself, I just want to like, because I think there's a way to stick up for yourself and still be cordial.

Speaker 2 I've had situations and or a situation where I feel like there was like a lot of stuff I found out about the situation.

Speaker 2 And then I knew if I confronted the person, they were just not going to own up to any of it. So it's like, what's the point? Right.

Speaker 2 If I'm going to go to you and be like, here's what I found out, I know that it's true. I've seen the proof.
I've too many people have said something to me about it.

Speaker 2 And they're just going to be like, I can't believe you would believe that about me. Like, that's just not true.

Speaker 2 Why am I going to waste my breath with somebody who's just not even going, who's not in the place in their life or like the type of person that is going to even receive the confrontation at all?

Speaker 2 Because I can do confrontation if it's in a calm, appropriate,

Speaker 2 I'm not a yeller, like I'm not going to like freak out and like, I'll get fired up when it's something that I'm really like passionate about or defensive about because like I've had that happen to me before.

Speaker 2 But I still always want to end it on like a,

Speaker 2 how did we move forward from here? Not like, and sometimes

Speaker 2 the reality I've had to face is that, like, sometimes that's not possible. Like, sometimes you just can't be around that person or be friends with that person.
And, like, it is what it is. Totally.

Speaker 2 You just have to move on.

Speaker 1 So many people in the world are fascinated by you and fascinated by your life. And I think the public can kind of feel that from you: of like, you don't like confrontation.

Speaker 1 You rarely will speak out on things if there's drama, which I think so many people do respect you for. But how much does that then weigh on you of things piling up on you?

Speaker 1 That it's like, when is gonna be a good moment for Haley to just kind of like speak her truth?

Speaker 1 And you've done it a couple times on the internet, which I think people were like, oh, fuck yes, like Haley, let's go, which we're gonna get into.

Speaker 2 Well, I think based on what you're saying, like, one of the, I think, issues with that is that then you get stuck having to explain yourself for every little thing.

Speaker 2 And

Speaker 2 I had to get over that because I was in a place at one point where I felt like I wanted to like explain the narrative and explain myself, and like that's also exhausting.

Speaker 2 So, if it's like every single time I do an interview, or if I say something, and there's gonna be something that people are like,

Speaker 2 why would she say that? Or like, she's wrong for saying that, or that doesn't make sense. You said marriage is hard work, and then I said that, and everybody was like, That's not a good sign.

Speaker 2 If you think that it's like hard, like it's like no matter what I say, I'm always gonna have to be explaining myself to people, which is why I actually hate doing interviews where they're like, it's like a blurb of a longer thing that I said that's just so out of context.

Speaker 2 And then I'm going to feel like, I'm explaining myself.

Speaker 1 What marriage doesn't have ups and downs? And in a good way, you get it.

Speaker 2 But also, what I meant when I said hard work is just like there's compromise, there's sacrifice.

Speaker 2 I feel that way in most relationships in my life, even friendships, even work relationships, like they can be tough sometimes. I didn't mean it just overall.
Yeah, like it's hard and it sucks.

Speaker 2 Like, that's not what I'm saying at all. It's literally the best thing ever.
The whole sentence of what I said was like, he's my best friend. I love coming home to him.

Speaker 2 But like, yeah, it takes work because I'm 25 years old and I have a life and I have a career and I have my own friends. So trying to balance making my

Speaker 2 wants and needs and hopes and dreams work while meshing my life with another human who has his hopes and dreams and career.

Speaker 2 And like we're busy people and we want to be in a marriage so we're making it work and sometimes it's hard how is that not make sense people don't want it to make sense people really want that statement to be like the marriage is ending like here we go but people have been saying that since the beginning so that's why at this point I'm not as I was more sensitive about it I don't really feel sensitive about it now because I'm just like

Speaker 2 Totally no matter what I say, it's like the marriage is ending.

Speaker 2 Every single time I say something

Speaker 2 about my own relationship, it's like, there's something wrong with it. So it's like, I just don't care.
People have been saying this now for four years.

Speaker 1 So let's get into it.

Speaker 2 You are married. I start sticking my feet.
You're like, oh, fuck. Here we go.
Alex, just go.

Speaker 2 She's literally burrowing in. Look at my hand.

Speaker 2 Okay.

Speaker 1 You married one of the most famous people on the planet. Justin Bieber.

Speaker 1 What are the best parts about being married to Justin?

Speaker 2 Well, I think the best parts are that he's my best friend, and there's nothing better than being with the person that makes you smile the most, makes you laugh the most.

Speaker 2 Like, he's just literally the best human to me ever. And

Speaker 2 I think that he's a person who has been through a lot and shouldn't have gotten gotten to the other side of a lot of what he's been through.

Speaker 2 And he has, and he's overcome so many different things in his life for being famous so young.

Speaker 2 And the fact that he's as normal as he is, he's literally just, to me, I feel like he's a very like normal, regular guy.

Speaker 2 I guarantee you someone takes this and they like fucking chop it up and make it sound like I said something different.

Speaker 2 But

Speaker 2 I've known him for a very long time. We were friends for a long time before anything else.
And like, I just love him.

Speaker 1 You can see it with the two of you, even though we only see stuff. I mean, I remember when I saw you guys on the beach in Santa Barbara and I grew up, I watched Justin Bieber.

Speaker 1 I was like, oh, like, I didn't know what to expect. Like, I was definitely intimidated by you guys because we had only met once.
I was like, wait, why are they so normal?

Speaker 1 Justin's like, hey, what's up? Gives me a hug. You're like, what are you guys doing on your trip? I'm like, you guys are so, so normal for what, how crazy your life is.

Speaker 1 And it's unfortunate that people don't get to see that side of you guys. Yeah.

Speaker 2 He's also like,

Speaker 2 he just has the kindest, sweetest, most like gentle heart and soul to me. And I've always thought that about him.
Obviously, he's gone through phases in his life where

Speaker 2 he was being,

Speaker 2 you know, a little out there. I didn't want to say like fuck boy because it's like not, yeah, but like yes and no.
I don't know.

Speaker 2 I don't know how to describe it, but like he was just in a different space in his life and was like, I think ultimately when people are like acting out, it's just because they're hurting.

Speaker 2 And he was just in a space in his life. I mean, we're all hurting every single day.
But I think sometimes we go through a season where it's like, we're hurting a lot more.

Speaker 2 We're going through a lot more. So we're just

Speaker 2 a different version of ourself. That's not really who we are.
Um, but like to me, he's just the best, the most fun.

Speaker 2 Like, I have the most fun with him, he understands me more than anybody ever has in my whole life, and I think that goes both ways. And he's just my guy.

Speaker 1 How has

Speaker 1 being married to someone with that level of fame impacted your identity?

Speaker 2 Where do I start? Um, Well, I think even for starters,

Speaker 2 even me talking about him or talking about our relationship, people will take that and be like, all she ever talks about is her relationship with him.

Speaker 2 And

Speaker 2 even something like that, I'm just like,

Speaker 2 well, we are married and he's

Speaker 2 a huge part of my life. And obviously, people are very interested in like

Speaker 2 our life together. And he's a humongous public figure.
So it's like, it's a little bit unavoidable at times.

Speaker 2 And I do try to, you know, have my own thing, but it's like our lives are completely meshed together. So I don't know.
I'm like, what do you want from me?

Speaker 2 Like, of course people are going to ask me about it. They're going to ask him about it.
Like, I just don't see. how that's like avoidable.

Speaker 2 And sometimes it is because it's just not necessary to talk about, but like, even in a situation like this, yeah, we're married. I have his last name.

Speaker 2 Like, I don't know how I'm supposed to avoid like talking about my life. Like, that's my life.

Speaker 1 This person that you happen to be married to happens to also be one of the most famous people.

Speaker 2 Nobody would be asking me about him if he was someone who had a different type of job or, like, you know,

Speaker 2 a nine-to-five. Like, I just, the reality is that it, it is what it is.

Speaker 1 From your point of view, can you explain why the internet was so angry over your engagement to Justin?

Speaker 2 First of all, I think one thing is that we're both really young. That's, I think honestly, that's for starters, which I totally understand.
When we got engaged, I was 21 and he was 24.

Speaker 2 Yeah, 24 and 21. I personally never thought I was going to get married that young.
Like, I always thought... I would be maybe getting married now and I'm 25 now and I still think I'm really young.

Speaker 2 I think the timing was obviously very rapid and very fast, which now being four years past that, looking back on it, I totally get it.

Speaker 2 I'm like, yeah, that seemed really drastic and really crazy because, but that was what we felt was a decision between the two of us and

Speaker 2 it felt correct for the two of us at the time and clearly we were right because here we are four years later. And I think just given

Speaker 2 the timeline of like where he was at before we got back together and what was going on and

Speaker 2 there was just a lot happening. Yeah.

Speaker 2 But I will say too, like the only people that really know the truth of the situation and what the timeline really was and how it happened and how it went down are like me and him.

Speaker 2 Perception is a really tricky thing because when you're watching something from the outside, you can it one way when it may not really be the reality of what happened behind closed doors.

Speaker 2 And that's a big challenge, I think, of being

Speaker 2 somebody who is in the spotlight or being famous is that I know how we got to where we got, period. Like that's, I just know how it happened.
I was there and I was living it every day.

Speaker 2 So there's just, yeah, there's a lot that I can understand why people were so like,

Speaker 2 what is going on? Like, this seems crazy.

Speaker 1 Your husband was in a very public relationship. They were kids.
People were obsessed with the idea of them. People were confused on the timeline you're talking about of like,

Speaker 1 is she a homewrecker?

Speaker 1 So I guess my question is, Haley,

Speaker 1 were you ever with Justin romantically at the same time as her?

Speaker 2 No.

Speaker 2 Not one time. When him and I started hanging out, like, okay, let's just put it this way.

Speaker 2 When him and I ever started like hooking up or like anything of that sort, he was not ever in a relationship ever at any point.

Speaker 2 I would never, it's not my character

Speaker 2 to

Speaker 2 mess with someone's relationship. I would just never do that.
I was raised better than that. I'm not interested in doing that, and I never was.

Speaker 2 I think that

Speaker 2 there are situations where

Speaker 2 you can

Speaker 2 still kind of have like back and forth with someone, but even that was not the situation. Like, I can say period point blank, I was never with him when he was in a relationship with anybody.

Speaker 2 That's the end of it.

Speaker 2 And I

Speaker 2 had

Speaker 2 been

Speaker 2 involved with him since I was 18.

Speaker 2 The the timeline also that I think sometimes is in question of like us getting together and getting engaged and

Speaker 2 him having been spending time with his ex before that.

Speaker 2 This is so crazy. I've literally never talked about this ever.

Speaker 2 I understand again how it looks from the outside and there's a lot of perception there, but

Speaker 2 that was a situation where I I know for a fact that

Speaker 2 it was the right thing for

Speaker 2 them to close that door.

Speaker 2 They were not in a relationship at that time. But of course, there's a very long history there and it's not my relationship.
It has nothing to do with me. So I respect that a lot.
But I know that

Speaker 2 it closed a chapter. And I think it was the best thing.
that could have happened for him to move on and

Speaker 2 be

Speaker 2 engaged and get married and like move on with his life in that way.

Speaker 2 And it's hard for me to talk about this because I don't want to talk on either one of their behalf again because it was their relationship. And I honestly respect that very deeply.

Speaker 2 But I just know what was going on when we got back together and I know what had to happen for that to come back together in a healthy way.

Speaker 2 And I think it was the most healthy, mature decision that he could have made. And I respect that.

Speaker 2 As a woman, I would never want to get into a relationship with someone and be engaged to them and be getting married to them. And think in the back of my mind, I wonder like

Speaker 2 if that was really like closed for you. And like, and I know for a fact that the reason we were able to get back together was because it was very much completely closed.
And that is respectful to me.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 let's talk about your experience with there's been a lot of hate on the internet. I know you don't like to talk about this stuff, but you've never it literally makes me so uncomfortable.

Speaker 2 I see that. I see that.
Yeah, I'm like, I'm like, can't stop moving and I'm like crawling because I just feel like

Speaker 2 there's like a little bit of that like anxiety of like

Speaker 2 people will probably take it the wrong way or like I just don't want to say something that is like being disrespectful or like bringing up something that can like stir up feelings for someone that like I know that we're just just all so far moved on from like any type of drama, and I'm so happy for that.

Speaker 2 So, like, I get nervous about talking about it because I'm like, I don't want to like stir anything up or like bring anything up that is going to be like a thing.

Speaker 1 And I get that. And I think the reason, unfortunately, is you guys aren't completely normal human beings.
There is a complete world out there that is obsessed with all of you in different ways.

Speaker 1 And then there are people that hate you for who your husband dated back in his past.

Speaker 1 Take me through how your husband's past relationship still to this day affects what people are saying about you and to you on the internet.

Speaker 2 Well, I think like one of the things that we already just covered is that like the timeline of things and like a lot of the hate and the perpetuation comes from like, oh, you stole him.

Speaker 2 And I guess maybe that just comes from like the fact that they wished that like he had ended up with someone else. And that's fine.
Like you can wish that all you want, but that's just not the case.

Speaker 1 In December of 2020, a person posted a video encouraging haters to comment on your Instagram live with nasty messages announcing their allegiance for Justin's ex and just like fully harassing you on your live.

Speaker 1 What do you remember feeling? on that Instagram live when you saw those comments start popping up.

Speaker 2 I don't.

Speaker 2 Well, I think there's like a certain like, almost like numbness that you get where you're just like,

Speaker 2 you just know it's going to happen. It still happens to this day.

Speaker 2 This is, you're talking about something that was two years ago now, almost three, and it's something that's, if I was to go live on Instagram right now, it would still be happening, probably less, which is nice.

Speaker 2 But you just reach a point where you just like, you have to just like ignore it and be like, okay.

Speaker 1 And didn't Justin came publicly to your defense and like said something.

Speaker 2 Well, because I know that for him, that's hurtful. Because

Speaker 2 if we have moved on, why can't you? Like, that's kind of just the whole thought process of like, it's just hurtful. It's hurtful.
It's bullying.

Speaker 1 It brings me back to the Rob Pattinson and Kristen Stewart, the...

Speaker 1 Miley Cyrus and Liam Hemsworth, their first love, right? And people are obsessed, I feel like, with this concept of like your first relationship.

Speaker 1 somehow It's being pushed onto you as like get the fuck out of the way like let them get back and you're like if I wasn't even here They're that's not gonna happen So like let us just live our lives and now you go find your partner and you be happy, but it's it's hard I have had this conversation with a psychiatrist with a therapist before because I'm just like I hate comparison.

Speaker 2 The whole point of this conversation is that we're talking about how my relationship is being compared to something else or I'm being compared to another woman and you know get the fuck out of the way type of a thing so where I'm at and the position I'm in it's not it's it's not for everybody but everybody has a purpose but that doesn't necessarily mean that you're supposed to also be 25 and married and doing this or

Speaker 2 I'm I'm I could have nothing figured out right now if in an alternate situation, in an alternate life.

Speaker 1 And I think Hilly, he was America's bad boy sweetheart. And so I think there's ownership people and fans feel over him.

Speaker 2 There totally is. And there's also this like, why is it you? There's so much of that that I feel like, why, why you, though? Like, and I'm like, I don't know.

Speaker 1 Right? Like, I just fell in love. He fell in love.
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Speaker 2 And, like,

Speaker 2 I think there was times where, like, I'd be, I can confidently say I don't think we knew it was going to be each other several times.

Speaker 2 So, like, I can't say that, yes, at 18 years old, I knew 100% that that was my husband. I don't fucking, I didn't fucking know.

Speaker 1 You You almost can't live up to the idea of who they think belongs with him.

Speaker 2 It would have, nobody would have,

Speaker 2 this is the thing. If it was any, if it was another person, it's like, because so many people have adored him for so long, nobody in their mind would have ever been like the person.

Speaker 2 And here's the thing, too: is like, we're talking about a lot of like the negative side of it. There's also so many people who have made me

Speaker 2 feel so embraced and so encouraged and so loved and

Speaker 2 obviously it has brought me a newfound audience and a newfound um

Speaker 2 you know

Speaker 2 there it it just there I want to like give credit also to the people who have like supported and been so kind and like so amazing and so great I think everyone in the world almost knows that you have been bullied and harassed on the internet for almost four years now like that's a fact and it's But I do think it has changed.

Speaker 2 Okay. I will give credit to say that I do think that four years ago,

Speaker 2 three years ago, two and a half years ago, because of how intense it was, it made me just very like closed off and like not want to share anything really of myself on the internet.

Speaker 2 I didn't really want to be open. I would get a pit in my stomach doing interviews because I'm just like,

Speaker 2 I can't like,

Speaker 2 I, I'm, it's like, it's like being like traumatized, kind of like you're too scared to, like, speak or open yourself up or say the wrong thing.

Speaker 2 And then you start to become, I've had, I had moments where I, I felt like I was becoming very, like,

Speaker 2 not like, like a robot, but like, I had to be very meticulous about what I was saying and very agreeable and can't say the wrong thing.

Speaker 2 And, like, and it just starts to become this very, like, weird way of feeling. where you feel like you just can't be expressive and you can't be yourself.

Speaker 2 And then that was where it came in with like wanting to do YouTube and

Speaker 2 trying

Speaker 2 to have a space within this age of the internet and this age of social media where I can say, this is who I actually am.

Speaker 2 Take it or leave it, like me or not, this is who I am. And I felt like actually taking the step to

Speaker 2 even though at times it was really uncomfortable for me, taking the step of being like

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Speaker 2 a girl from fucking New York. Oh my god, this is gonna sound so cringe.

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Speaker 2 again,

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Speaker 1 You are starting to share more.

Speaker 1 And even in the video that you made where you basically asked people to stop harassing you and you're like, leave me alone.

Speaker 2 Just leave me alone. I was like half joking, but I was being half serious.

Speaker 2 Like it was supposed to be something that was like light and funny, but I was also being serious because I like woke up one day and I was like, I

Speaker 2 can't believe we're still doing this.

Speaker 1 Because what, you like, read a comment?

Speaker 2 Yeah, like, I was, I, which again, like, I have to stop myself from doing all the time because we know that the internet is a toxic hole and like comments are a toxic hole.

Speaker 2 But I was just like curious about something. And then I'm like, reading, I'm like, are we still talking about this? Like, we're getting to

Speaker 2 this has been four, it's been years now, like, four years we've been together. Like, come on.
Let it go. Let's all evolve together.
Let's hold hands and really like,

Speaker 2 okay, we're done. Like, that's how I wanted to, that's how I felt in that moment.
I was like, are we serious that this is what we're still doing? Like,

Speaker 2 we're still going to harass me about this

Speaker 2 shit. There is so much that I could have said.

Speaker 2 There was so much that I, at times, was like this close to saying. And I just felt like

Speaker 2 there's

Speaker 2 so, there's so many things that were happening where it's also like

Speaker 2 there is a time and a place, and there's also a time and a place to

Speaker 2 let other people express what they need to express and like go through their

Speaker 2 feelings and emotions. And like,

Speaker 2 I just felt like there were certain times if I was going to say something, it was going to make things way worse and not be beneficial.

Speaker 2 Again, it was going to be my word against someone else's, against a bunch of other people, and it would just not be beneficial. And

Speaker 2 I've struggled with that for, I had struggled with that for a long time.

Speaker 2 Like I would talk to my therapist and be like, but it's, it's not fair that people think that this is what happened when this is really what happened.

Speaker 2 And then you get into a cycle of like, again, feeling the need to explain yourself. And for me, it's not even about explaining myself.
It's about people knowing the truth. Because there's a truth.

Speaker 2 There is actually the truth of something that happened and there's the truth of what didn't happen.

Speaker 2 So I think for me, when people, you know, make up stories about me online, I'm just like, but that's not what happened. That's not the truth.

Speaker 1 Is the crux of it the homewrecker thing? Like, is that what really bothers you?

Speaker 2 I think there's a lot of timing and timeline stuff that like just wasn't true. And

Speaker 2 that's also just the internet making up their stories and like taking little bits and pieces of something they're looking at from the outside.

Speaker 2 And there, and by the way, it's not even, it's so many different things. The internet can make up, they can literally sit here and say that I threw up on you.

Speaker 2 I know she did, but that's not

Speaker 2 Haley threw up on me. It was really crazy.
And then I would read that on TMZ and I'd be like, that did not happen. Do you know what I'm saying?

Speaker 2 There's just stuff that happens all the time that I'm like, hello?

Speaker 1 Can you explain what happened when you were taking photos on the red carpet carpet with your husband at the Met Gala in 2021?

Speaker 2 Oh, and people were screaming?

Speaker 2 So,

Speaker 2 yes, I could hear everyone screaming.

Speaker 2 And

Speaker 2 again, I think there's a certain part of you that has a numbness of just like, I was like, really surprised.

Speaker 2 I could kind of hear it, but I didn't know if that's what was really going on until I saw the video after. The whole thing of everybody being like, oh, he's trying to tell her not to cry.

Speaker 2 um that was not true it wasn't making me cry um although it's a very disrespectful thing to do towards anybody I felt like I had something in my eye that was see that's just what goes to show you how out of context things can be seen when he's like trying to help me I'm like I feel like there's something in my eye do you see something in my eye and I'm going like this and he's like no no no you're good And as this is happening, everyone's chanting,

Speaker 1 I don't even know if it was their relationship name or or just her name.

Speaker 2 I think I do both.

Speaker 1 So then you take the sunglasses. Yeah.

Speaker 2 And everyone. The sunglasses were just part of my look.
They were just part of my look. I knew I was going to wear the sunglasses regardless on the carpet for some photos and then some without.

Speaker 2 But yeah, I did hear people yelling.

Speaker 2 It wasn't making me almost cry.

Speaker 2 I think seeing the video back after

Speaker 2 made me like, damn, like, that sucks that that's the energy people are like putting out into, like, like that you would even spend your time camping out standing outside and doing that.

Speaker 2 I just felt like it was it was disrespectful to me to my relationship. It just was period the end.
But I think I've endured so much

Speaker 2 disrespect and I still do to this day that there was like a part of me that was just like another day,

Speaker 2 another negative sleigh.

Speaker 1 It's like so depressing. I know.
That, I know. See, that's like a very public example, I feel like, of you having to go through that.

Speaker 1 Is there anything that comes to mind that was supposed to be a happy moment for you, for you, and Justin, whatever, and it was ruined by harassment or bullying or this concept of his past?

Speaker 2 They've never ruined anything for me. They've never, they've never, they're not ruining my life.
They're not ruining my happiness. And that, I think, is really the win of the whole thing.

Speaker 2 You're actually not taking anything away from me. So

Speaker 2 that's what I just keep stepping forward with. It's like, you can't take this away from me.
You cannot take away my happiness, my relationship,

Speaker 2 my business, my career. Like, you just, you can't.
You can try and you can be mad about it, but it doesn't change anything is my point.

Speaker 1 Haley what do you think the internet wants you to do?

Speaker 2 I don't know.

Speaker 2 I legit don't know.

Speaker 1 Like, if you were trying to get under it, like,

Speaker 2 I'm like, sometimes I joke around. I'm like, would they be happy if I like just moved away and like locked myself in a house and just like, I don't know.
I don't know. I don't know what the goal is.

Speaker 2 That's what's so funny is I'm just like, I don't try to understand like what is the goal. I think I would say a lot of the time it's attention.
I think it's attention.

Speaker 2 I think a lot of people sometimes they do things and they say things. in hopes to get a response out of you and to get a rise.
And I've seen it happen with a lot of other people too. Like you're ugly.

Speaker 2 And and then like you respond and you're like

Speaker 2 i wish you the best like i'm sorry you feel that way and they're like oh my god queen i'm sorry i actually love you i was just being silly

Speaker 2 you're like that was that wasn't funny that wasn't funny at all calling me ugly like

Speaker 1 i guess it is kind of funny because look at you so fuck off no it's just like

Speaker 2 what was your point so then the point is like they get the attention that they thought i think a lot of people think you'll not respond and i've had that happen before too that i didn't think you would see it i'm sorry and i'm like so why are you saying that?

Speaker 2 Are you just bored? Like, I don't know.

Speaker 1 Can you try to explain

Speaker 1 what does it feel like

Speaker 1 to have millions of people

Speaker 1 against

Speaker 1 your relationship? Like, what does that feel like on a day-to-day basis to you?

Speaker 2 I guess the biggest thing is like, I think it's sad. I think it's sad to be against someone's happiness.
I think it's sad to not wish somebody well. Who am I supposed to be that would be acceptable?

Speaker 2 And then that means that I'm living for other people and that means that I'm being a people pleaser, which I struggle with a lot. I do want people to like me.
It does bother me when people

Speaker 2 just don't like me simply because of the rumors they've heard or the ideas they've come up with or things that they've seen.

Speaker 2 Like, it makes me sad, but I think I've had to come to the point and the realization of like, there is no way that you exist as a person, especially not as a person with a platform or in the public eye, where everybody loves you.

Speaker 2 And that's even in life in general. Even if I was

Speaker 2 just in a normal situation,

Speaker 2 not everybody's going to like you. I'm just existing in front of a lot of people.
So it's very easy to make up your like make decisions about how you feel about someone

Speaker 2 especially when there's so much access to look at them and see what they're doing, and there's social media, and there's photos, and there's just like life.

Speaker 2 So, I don't know. I think that sometimes it feels really heavy.

Speaker 1 What has been your lowest moment since all of this began?

Speaker 2 When things can get really dark, and you can start having thoughts of like

Speaker 2 it not being worth it anymore, or not wanting to be here anymore, which I have had before in the past. And

Speaker 2 coming out of that, I think it's really important.

Speaker 2 A support system is like the most important thing, for sure.

Speaker 1 Maybe if you could talk about like the shame of having those feelings, because I bet a lot of people listening have had those thoughts and you're

Speaker 1 you're you're really alone with them and how to even like comprehend them is a is a process in itself.

Speaker 2 Sometimes I don't think we can comprehend them on our own because because then you just throw yourself back into like a vicious cycle.

Speaker 2 I do think sometimes you need to express it and you need to go to someone who is going to feel safe for you and support you in those thoughts, not make you feel like you're crazy or that you're wrong for feeling dark and deep and heavy.

Speaker 2 There's also this like kind of weird twisted thing where I'm like,

Speaker 2 I don't get to feel that way because I have an amazing life and I'm so blessed and I'm so fortunate. So like, it's almost like my, my dialogue in my head feels like, get the fuck over it.

Speaker 2 Like you don't get to feel that way because there are people in this world that are, that are really struggling and you're not.

Speaker 2 Like that's sometimes how I feel like I talk to myself because I'm like, get over it. Like you're fine.
That kind of a thing. And I've had to really try to be

Speaker 2 more gentle with myself and like allow myself I'm somebody who like I hate crying in front of people. I don't do it.
Like

Speaker 2 just don't like it. And it's been since I was a little kid and I've never understood.

Speaker 2 I mean, I've started to a little bit more in therapy and stuff, but I'm like, why do I find it so embarrassing to cry in front of people when it's like everybody cries and it's such a vulnerable thing?

Speaker 2 But I'm like, it feels so awkward and like cringe to me to cry.

Speaker 2 in front of people and it's always been such an uncomfortable thing for me. So like I have when I say I'm like shy and stuff like that, like I have been guarded

Speaker 2 emotionally in ways since I was like a little girl.

Speaker 2 So I think going through the process of also trying to understand why we have some of the tendencies we have since childhood, like what are the things that have happened to me when I was a little kid that have like brought me to the place of feeling like I have to have the self-dialogue of like,

Speaker 2 you don't get to feel that way. Get the fuck over it.
People are way worse off than you, which is also like true. There are people who are going through a lot

Speaker 2 different struggles and different things, but it's the sense of not invalidating the way that I feel.

Speaker 2 And I'm still working on that and I'm a hundred percent sure that I will be forever working on that. In December going into the new year, I went to this place that was a like therapy intensive.

Speaker 2 I was there for seven days. no phone, literally therapy, like hours and hours a day.

Speaker 2 And that was something that we spoke about, about like tiptoeing around the way I feel or like not sticking up for myself.

Speaker 2 Because again, it kind of boils back to like, I've never enjoyed confrontation. And I think a lot of it comes from my mom is a very sweet woman who is just like an angel.
But she,

Speaker 2 as far as I can remember, she never liked confrontation. And she, I feel like, didn't stick up for herself.
And at times, still to this day, doesn't say what she wants.

Speaker 2 And is like, I don't want to do this I want to do that like she is a very just gentle kind of reserved pulled back woman and there's so much about her that I like super respect but I think it's just a pattern that I watched growing up of just she was just very um

Speaker 2 non-confrontational and there was a lot we didn't talk about there were subjects we danced around and as I've as I've gotten older and had

Speaker 2 open conversations with my mom and she's expressed things that have happened to her in her life and things that she's gone through that I never knew about, it made me understand why she might be like that.

Speaker 2 But it's a pattern and it's like a learned behavior, I think, a little bit that I am trying to move past and work past.

Speaker 1 To close out. Kind of the chapter of what everything we were discussing.
What would you say to her fans?

Speaker 1 Like just coming from your heart, they're all sitting listening to you, having an open mind let's pretend they had it what would you say to her fans

Speaker 2 i think i would say

Speaker 2 the first thing i would say is you're not obligated to like me

Speaker 2 but

Speaker 2 i believe that no matter what there can always be mutual respect between people

Speaker 2 and to me that means

Speaker 2 just that You don't have to say anything. You don't have to like me, but you don't have to say anything either.
Because behind

Speaker 2 this person that you're looking at on a screen is a person with a brain and a heart and emotions and issues that I face, and

Speaker 2 so do you, and so does Alex, and so does every single person in this room. So

Speaker 2 you just, yeah, I think just mutual like respect and decency and

Speaker 2 know that what you say can have impact and

Speaker 2 know that,

Speaker 2 yeah, I guess that's what I would say.

Speaker 1 Oh my God, I think I would have been a little nastier, but I love it from you, Haley.

Speaker 2 I mean, what I want to say would be,

Speaker 1 no, I'm just kidding.

Speaker 2 No, like that, I always made the joke of like,

Speaker 2 I think if I sat down with any of those people and they would walk away being like, you know what?

Speaker 2 I get it. Like, I respect her for that.
I think we will always have more in common than we don't. That's like where everything comes from for me.

Speaker 2 So, when I see people being nasty and like attacking me, I'm like, we probably like a lot of the same things.

Speaker 1 One of my last questions on this topic, because I'm just trying to get all of it just like, let's wrap it in a bow. Yeah.
So, you never have to talk about this again. You're like, yeah, I wish.

Speaker 2 No, I literally never will. No, I'm like sweating.

Speaker 1 At any point, did Justin or any, literally anyone, ever ask his ex to help put an end to the harassment that her fans put you through.

Speaker 2 No

Speaker 2 What I will say is

Speaker 2 that she has been in this industry much longer than I have and maybe there's something that she knows about like it wouldn't fix anything.

Speaker 1 I think like a nice little heart on your TikTok could

Speaker 1 end it all.

Speaker 2 The thing is too is like I think that like all everyone is just trying to like create separation, even though there's clearly like not always separation.

Speaker 2 I have no expectation. I would never expect someone to do that for me.
Like, she doesn't owe me anything.

Speaker 2 I don't owe, neither of us owe anybody anything except like respect. I respect her a lot.
And

Speaker 2 I think that like, there's just no expectations. If that was something that she felt was necessary, then that would be amazing.
But I, I just,

Speaker 2 yeah, I respect her. There's no drama personally.

Speaker 1 Have you guys ever spoken?

Speaker 2 Yes.

Speaker 1 And then like recently. No, I don't guess not recently, but like after your marriage.

Speaker 2 Yes.

Speaker 2 So that's why I'm like,

Speaker 2 it's all respect. It's all love.
That's also why I feel like, well, if everybody on our side knows what happened and we're good and we could walk away from it with... clarity and respect, then like

Speaker 2 that's fine.

Speaker 1 As long as you know you're good, that's really all that matters.

Speaker 2 Which had brought me a lot of peace.

Speaker 2 And I'm like, hey, we know what happened.

Speaker 2 It is what it is. You're never going to be able to like correct every narrative.
And there's going to be new ones that come.

Speaker 2 It's never going to end. And that's why I get to the point where I'm like,

Speaker 2 that's why I didn't speak about a lot of this stuff because I'm like, there'll be something new. There'll probably be something new from this interview.
Oh, of course.

Speaker 1 Then I'm just like, you don't want to know what's going to come from this interview?

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Speaker 1 Haley Bieber. Yes.

Speaker 2 Welcome to Call Our Daddy. You're like, we've been sitting here for an hour.
She's like, we're starting over with scrapping the whole thing. No.

Speaker 1 I need to give the fans what they want, right?

Speaker 1 We need to just give them a little, a little taste, right?

Speaker 2 Walk me through.

Speaker 1 Walk me through step by step your sex with Justin Bieber.

Speaker 2 Oh my God.

Speaker 1 I was going to try to do it so, like, so straightforward. You're like, these girls me fucking psycho.
No, I was wondering, did anyone ever ask you about your sex life?

Speaker 2 No, actually.

Speaker 1 We're the first ones over here.

Speaker 2 I don't think so.

Speaker 1 Are you a morning sex or night sex people?

Speaker 2 More so night.

Speaker 1 Me too.

Speaker 2 But I do like morning too. It's so funny because I talk about this stuff.
And the reason I get weird about talking about it is because I'm like, my parents are going to listen to this.

Speaker 2 There's something that feels so cringe

Speaker 2 about your parents.

Speaker 1 Hopefully they don't make it this far.

Speaker 2 Your parents are probably really progressive and like true, Haley, but I grew up fully Catholic.

Speaker 1 Okay. So my parents like really, it took Caller Daddy really like, I went from zero to like, oh my God, what is she doing?

Speaker 2 Yeah. But they get over it.

Speaker 1 This will, see, this will be your introduction to like.

Speaker 2 I also

Speaker 2 hear that people like don't care about married people's sex.

Speaker 1 I'm sorry, you two are the hottest people in the world. Absolutely.

Speaker 2 I feel like I'm like, I don't think anybody cares. Oh, I care.

Speaker 1 Okay, so your night sex people, we love that. Okay, this is so graphic, but I'm saying the words.
Okay. For the rest of your life, you have to pick one of the two.
Okay.

Speaker 1 From Mr. Bieber.
Are you going to be fingered or eaten out for the rest of your life? You can only take one.

Speaker 2 Hmm. That's very hard.

Speaker 2 Because I feel like it's always a combination.

Speaker 1 Has anyone ever tried to have a threesome with you?

Speaker 2 Like in our relationship?

Speaker 2 No.

Speaker 1 Would you be down? No.

Speaker 2 It's funny because

Speaker 2 I feel like those ideas can be really fun and like sound really exciting. I think at the

Speaker 2 point that inside of R, it doesn't work for the two of us. We personally, like, that wouldn't work for this.

Speaker 2 Because I think sometimes for some people, it does. So I've, so I've heard.

Speaker 2 Some people are in like open relationships and like it works for a time but I feel like in the end it always doesn't end up working so I think the second you make the decision to do that there is never going back from that and I just don't know that I would ever be willing to like

Speaker 2 we've worked very hard

Speaker 2 we've worked very hard to like be in the space that we're in now and like

Speaker 2 trusting each other and there's like such a beautiful trust and bond that I just don't think that's something I would be comfortable with

Speaker 2 or him for that matter.

Speaker 1 Can you expand a little bit on how you guys built that trust and that bond?

Speaker 2 He's really honest. Like brutally honest, overly honest.
I could ask him about any person, any past girl, anything, and he'd be like, oh yeah, like this, this, this, and this.

Speaker 2 Like, he doesn't have a problem being explicit. And I think that made me trust him a lot because I'm like, there's nothing I don't know.

Speaker 1 Because you can tell when someone's being shady.

Speaker 2 And then when you're like, if they dance around it or like, he's had people like DM him and it'll be like, oh, like, show me the DMs.

Speaker 2 Like, do you, and it'll like be like, do you think that, like, this person's trying to be nice? Or you think this is weird? And I'm like, I think it's weird.

Speaker 2 No, it's like, he knows he's just saying, like,

Speaker 2 do you think like this person is like genuine? Like, cause it'll come across like super friendly. And I'm just like, there's just no reason.

Speaker 1 There's no reason you need to have a relationship.

Speaker 2 There's no, yeah, that's cute.

Speaker 2 But I'm also someone where like I really encourage female friendships because I think that you have to be able to have like healthy, opposite sex relationships that are friendships,

Speaker 2 or else you're like closing yourself off all the time, and it's like, But you're not like having Instagram models like walk around your house, no, of course.

Speaker 2 I'm just saying, like, of course, there's boundaries with everything, but totally, I'm just saying, like, don't be afraid to have girlfriends, totally, right?

Speaker 2 Because it's like, if you can't, it's like, oh my god, like, if I could, it would be like, if I couldn't have friends that were guys, I think you control

Speaker 2 what the limitations are in any relationship, in any friendship, in any work relationship, like you can have self-restraint, and yeah, yeah, yeah. For sure.

Speaker 1 Do you have people still in your DMs?

Speaker 2 No.

Speaker 2 You're like, I am just, I am just a married person. I don't have people hitting me up like

Speaker 1 my DMs.

Speaker 2 Got you.

Speaker 1 Okay, do you and Justin have the same favorite positions?

Speaker 2 I think so.

Speaker 2 It's not like I'm like, I strictly like this one thing and he strictly likes another thing.

Speaker 1 Can you give us like one or two

Speaker 1 or five?

Speaker 2 it's always different. Okay, yeah, it's always something different.

Speaker 1 You're moving it around,

Speaker 2 yeah. Well, no, I mean, like, one day it might be one thing, one day it might be another.

Speaker 1 Oh, I actually didn't even mean that, too. I was like, you're doing 10 positions in one night.

Speaker 2 He's like, he's flipping you upside down one second.

Speaker 1 So, you guys have, like, you guys are not set on one position. Like, you guys have a couple go-tos.
No, no, no, no. I feel like with my boyfriend, I have now like our go-to, like

Speaker 1 three. I feel like every couple has those, like, go-tos.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Do you want to give us one? And it can't be missionary.

Speaker 2 It's definitely not missionary. I

Speaker 2 really like doggy style.

Speaker 1 You heard it here. That was beautiful, Haley.
What is the sexiest thing Justin does to turn you on?

Speaker 1 Hmm.

Speaker 2 You know, it can be so many different things. It can be like a connection thing.
It can be a physical thing. For me, kissing is a big deal.
Like, that's a big thing for me.

Speaker 2 It always has been just like in my life before I was married. So, I would say that is probably the most.

Speaker 1 What is the sexiest thing you do that turns him on? Or what's his thing that he always says, like, oh god, like, Haley, like, he like gets him going?

Speaker 2 The connection point is very important to him. Of, like, we could literally just be like laying down talking before, and like, just having like a really fun conversation, and like, that is really

Speaker 2 important for him. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay, I'm gonna tell you something that I think is super sexy about you that turns me on is voting.

Speaker 2 Yes. Woo!

Speaker 2 Voting is hot.

Speaker 1 Yes, voting is so sexy. Yeah.
So sexy.

Speaker 2 Justin can't vote here, but

Speaker 1 well, he'll be supportive of us both voting.

Speaker 2 Yeah, he's very

Speaker 1 and there are so many people that listen to this show, and this airs in September.

Speaker 1 We have a huge election in November, and I just think it would be great to use the end of this episode and use this platform and our platforms to just emphasize why it's important to vote and just how much everyone needs to get out there.

Speaker 1 So, why is voting in this year's election important to you, Hale?

Speaker 2 It's important to me because I think, as everybody knows, we're in a very scary state in our country.

Speaker 2 We, as women, are living through a very terrifying reality right now.

Speaker 2 And I think what we've learned,

Speaker 2 what I took away in a big way from the overturn of Roe v. Wade was the people that we elect in our states in our cities in our counties

Speaker 2 they are so important

Speaker 2 um

Speaker 2 and that was something that i was like

Speaker 2 shit like

Speaker 2 we got this is really the reality we got to get on it um i felt very passionate the last election about just

Speaker 2 please get him out of there like that was like it felt like legit like life or death. And it was in so many ways.

Speaker 2 And I still feel that even more now because you've seen,

Speaker 2 there's still so many

Speaker 2 terrible, scary things happening within our country. But I do think there's a chance for like change.
And I always think there's an opportunity for change and there's an opportunity to

Speaker 2 come together and stand up and make a difference.

Speaker 1 You've been open about the fact that people in your family have different political views than you. And I think that's probably the most relatable thing we'll talk about on the podcast today.

Speaker 1 And I think so many people can relate to that. How did you navigate that? Because it can get heated.

Speaker 2 Yeah, it was tricky,

Speaker 2 especially very personally, like my dad, my parents.

Speaker 2 It just got to a point where I found that we couldn't discuss it, which I think is okay.

Speaker 2 I believe what I believe. I am a fully formed woman now.
I'm 25, turning 26. I know what I believe in and what I don't.

Speaker 2 I know what I stand for and what I don't. And obviously, it's disappointing that the people that raised you could think so differently than you and have such a different perception that sounds crazy.

Speaker 2 And you're just like, how did I come from you then? I just don't get this. But it would, it just causes too much disturbance and turmoil and

Speaker 2 argumentative back and forth that it's just like

Speaker 2 it just can't be talked about.

Speaker 1 You're not going to change people.

Speaker 2 And it's funny because me and my sister have the same exact point of view, which is like nice because at least I'm like, at least I got you.

Speaker 1 Like, at least, thank you.

Speaker 2 And then my mom, like, I'll try to talk to her about something. She's like, I'm from Brazil.
So I'm like, okay.

Speaker 2 My mom's from Brazil, by the way.

Speaker 1 Oh, my God. No, I appreciate that.
I think it's always good to just, one, normalize people are going to have different views. But I do think, regardless, like, just get out and vote because

Speaker 2 it is so important this year specifically for sure so and it's not something that I even you know the last election I was super vocal about it I plan to do that every single time

Speaker 2 it's something that I'm passionate about for sure so I appreciate you bringing it up Haley Bieber Thank you so much for coming on Caller Daddy.

Speaker 1 I really appreciate you opening up. You don't do a lot of long-form interviews, so I appreciate you trusting me and sitting down with me.

Speaker 2 Of course. Thank you.
I think I had an expectation where I know coming on here with you, you're going to go there.

Speaker 2 That's just the reality of the situation. I wouldn't have agreed to it if I didn't know that was the case here.
I think there's a lot that I've avoided speaking on for a long time that it is my life.

Speaker 2 So I should be able to like...

Speaker 2 say what I want about it.

Speaker 2 You go there in certain contexts where it's like I've not gone before and I think that that's like a personal challenge to myself that I want, I wanted to like push myself to like, you know,

Speaker 2 it's okay to be uncomfortable. Like, I was uncomfortable multiple times in this conference.
My feet are inside of the couch because I was like, How many like protective body positions did I get into?

Speaker 2 I folded like a pretzel.

Speaker 1 What happens in New York, Kelly?

Speaker 2 To be honest, I really was always a very level-headed young person, but I definitely had my moment where, like, I went to New York, I started going out to the club. Like,

Speaker 2 that's just what happens when I, I mean, I guess it's not just what happens. You move to New York, you're going to the club, but I got introduced to like nightlife and going out and drinking.

Speaker 2 And you know, I definitely had my moments of that. That was like my time, probably like 18 to

Speaker 2 I swear by the time I turned 21 I was like ugh I'm overdrinking do you remember the first time you got drunk was it as after

Speaker 2 the first time I got drunk I was like oh my god this is so funny I was 16 Yeah, I think I was 16 and I used to be a dancer like I've I said before

Speaker 2 and I think we had like a recital and one of my friends who I danced with she had like the best house for like sleepers because she had like the dope basement.

Speaker 2 So we would go in the basement,

Speaker 2 shut the door, the parents would never come down. So we would take like all the alcohol and

Speaker 2 just get drunk in the basement. The two of you? No, it was like multiple girls.
Like all the girls from our dance school.

Speaker 2 And the first time I like really remember getting drunk, I didn't throw up, which is like surprising.

Speaker 2 That one time I didn't throw up. Thrown up multiple times from drinking but

Speaker 2 that one time I remember like crawling on the floor because I like could not walk like could not stand up straight and I was just mixing everything because I didn't know what to drink so I

Speaker 2 can never if you made me smell sirok birthday cake vodka right now

Speaker 2 or like svedka birthday cake

Speaker 2 pinnacle pinnacle pinnacle and you would just mom if you made me smell that right now i would proceed to fall into a dark hole. Like, I would trigger me.

Speaker 1 I feel like that was what we were drinking.

Speaker 2 And then, like, mixing it with like a beer and like a Mike's heart and like all this crazy. Like, the fact that I didn't throw up is a miracle.

Speaker 2 But I remember waking up the next day and I was so hungover.

Speaker 2 And I called my cousin who was like staying with us at the time, who I was really close to. I am really close to.
And I was like, hey, she was older than me.

Speaker 2 I was like, can you pick me up from her house? I don't want my mom to like pick me up.

Speaker 2 because I had moments with my mom where I'd like go to a party or something and I would have had like a couple sips of a drink and she would get in the car and she would smell my breath so I'm like I can't have my mom pick me up right now like she's gonna know and my friends asked me to take all the empties

Speaker 2 and find somewhere to throw them out because she didn't want her mom to find them so my cousin comes to get me I take all the bags of empties we pull over into an olive garden parking lot and find a dumpster throw it in the dumpster and I'm like sitting in the car with her and I was like,

Speaker 2 I need you to take me to church. Like I have to go to youth group.
That was like where I thought I needed to be because I felt so,

Speaker 2 what? I just felt bad. I felt like I did something so wrong.
Like I got like wasted and I'm hungover. I just felt like hell.
So I was like, I need to go to God. I need Jesus.
Like I need to go.

Speaker 2 And that's like legit how I felt. I was like, I got to go to like church.
And then I remember I went.

Speaker 2 to like youth group and I was so hungover at the youth group that I was like, oh my God, I gotta go home. Like, I can't be here right now.
And that was like what my instinct was. Like, I gotta go.

Speaker 1 I gotta go to youth group after I get hammered for the first time in the basement. It's a classic.
Classic. I feel like you are the sweetest angel.
And then.

Speaker 2 That's what's so funny about like me moving into New York City. It would be like Friday night.
I was like in up and down taking shots.

Speaker 2 And then I was like going to church on Sunday, which I think is like so fine. I don't see like a problem with that.
It's just the juxtaposition is really funny.

Speaker 1 The fact that you just referenced up and down in New York, I think I've had the most disgusting, disgusting, ratcheting, amazing, awful nights of my life in up and down.

Speaker 1 Like one had to ruin your life, but also like great night.

Speaker 2 Many, many a traumatizing moment and great moment in up and down.

Speaker 1 I had a couple of awful nights at Marquis, but like up and down specifically, you're like, God bless. Thank you.

Speaker 1 Oh, Marquis.

Speaker 2 What was the one on the roof PhD?

Speaker 1 Oh, PhD. Hilly, you're like a normal human going to the ratchet spots.
I'm obsessed.

Speaker 2 From, I lived, that was where I was from. I lived there.

Speaker 1 Do you and Justin like go out and have fun still? Are you able to do that?

Speaker 2 Okay.

Speaker 2 We went out last night

Speaker 2 to Delilah. Oh, which was fun.
There you go.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I think definitely both of us do not turn up the way we used to just simply because it's never worth the way you feel.

Speaker 1 Absolutely not.

Speaker 2 I feel like now I get hungover by accident. Like I wasn't trying to.
It was just like that last glass of wine. You shouldn't have done it.
I, it's hard for me.

Speaker 2 When I was 18 to 20, I felt like I was drinking four times my body weight and was fine.

Speaker 1 A full like water bottle of vodka would be in my system, and I'd be like, I'm cruising through the night.

Speaker 2 I would wake up the next day, give me a bacon, egg, and cheese, and a blue Gatorade, and I'm fine.

Speaker 1 That was, did you like rip that for me? Because that is my order, please. And thank you.
In New York, you go to a fucking go date.

Speaker 2 I'd get a bagel and a blue gator. It had to be blue.
Blue Gatorade. Always.

Speaker 2 The only bacon, egg, and cheese on a croissant, blue Gatorade. You're back.

Speaker 2 You're fine. Thriving.
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