Christina Aguilera: Getting Dirty & Talking Sex (FBF)

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Speaker 3 Christina Aguilera, welcome to Call Her Daddy.

Speaker 2 Hi. I'm staring at your nails.

Speaker 3 Oh, yes. What's happening?

Speaker 2 They're so fun. You know, they're,

Speaker 2 you know, it's open to interpretation. Is that a vagina? It could be a vagina, it could be lips, but two in the same, both pleasure points.
You know,

Speaker 2 and then on the, and then there's an actual mouth on the,

Speaker 2 you know, and tongue on the

Speaker 2 thumbs.

Speaker 3 This couldn't be more appropriate for a call her daddy episode. Casual Christina Aguilera is like, it could be lips, it could be my pussy lips.
God bless you all. Up for interpretation.

Speaker 2 It's amazing.

Speaker 3 I need to gas you up for a second, okay? Because just in case anyone fucking forgot, you are a seven-time Grammy award-winning singer, songwriter. You have sold more than 75 million records worldwide.

Speaker 3 No big fucking deal. You're an international pop icon, voice of a generation, fiancé, mother, chief brand advisor, and co-founder of Playground.

Speaker 3 And this is your first ever podcast, and you chose Caller Daddy. And I am so fucking honored.
I'm so honored.

Speaker 3 Dude, I can't believe when I heard you'd never done a podcast, I was like, sit down, baby girl. Let's go.

Speaker 2 I said yes to you because I've seen you pop up on social media, which didn't exist when I was coming up in this business. And, you know, I've been doing this since I was like six or seven, basically.

Speaker 2 So, but you feel safe, and I always appreciate that, you know, because I've been through the gamut of a lot of interviews and people that, you know, I grew up at a time where it was like appropriate to be inappropriate and ask, you know, crazy things.

Speaker 2 But I always feel it's never like the most intelligent way to go because when you make someone feel safe, they want to open up more. And you always do.
And you're so pretty, by the way. Oh my God.

Speaker 3 Right back at you.

Speaker 3 No, I really appreciate that because I agree.

Speaker 3 I think that's what I want to talk to you a little bit about today is just like your journey has been so public and you've been in front of people for so many years that it's like, I almost feel like people feel like they deserve a piece of you.

Speaker 3 Like you're a piece of the public.

Speaker 3 And I think it's important to sit down and like humanize people in those situations because it's like you're a human being, you have feelings, you've gone through shit. Yes.

Speaker 3 You're also like the queen of reinvention. You have had so many fucking eras.
It's like iconic, iconic, iconic. Aside from like the present moment, what is your most favorite era of your own?

Speaker 2 I mean, it's got to be probably stripped and dirty and beautiful and fighter. Can't hold us down.
You know, it was the time when I was turning, you know, I was 20, 21.

Speaker 2 i'd already gotten my foot in the door and my first album was successful but it was still very like play played by the rules and you know very given a you know set by you know label very very label driven and um

Speaker 2 and so

Speaker 2 after that i you know was like, you know, I have to do songs that mean something to me and are valid to who I am and being fearless in talking about anything. And that includes sexuality.

Speaker 2 I felt that there was like a lot of shame and fear around the subject. And especially, you know, as a woman, we're raised with a lot of stigma.
There's a lot of, you know, it's so layered.

Speaker 2 And it's tough to be a woman. So I wanted to really

Speaker 2 be who I was and make it a safe space for, you know, everyone to feel good and make it a conversation.

Speaker 3 That era of yours for women in general, but it's also so funny. We can look back on it, but I know there was pushback during that era,

Speaker 3 which we'll talk about because it's so funny. Like now it's like, oh, go off, Christina, but it's also like crazy to then read the tabloids back then.

Speaker 2 Oh, 100%.

Speaker 3 Well, first, how does it feel like the amount of people that still recreate your outfits, whether it was red carpet, music videos? Like, it's insane.

Speaker 3 Every fucking Halloween, it's like Christina everywhere. How does that feel that that's still so powerful in people's minds?

Speaker 2 It's incredible. I love it so much just because, you know,

Speaker 2 now it's celebrated and it feels good. And even the people that, you know, got it then, but there was a lot of pushback.
There was a lot of, you know,

Speaker 2 double standards with it. And there was a lot of, you know, because I went on tour with, you know, Justin.
We did the strip justified tour.

Speaker 2 And there were things where I was just like, why is it okay for him and not okay for me? You know what I mean? So it was just like, I was constantly pushing back.

Speaker 2 And my way, I mean, it was so inappropriate sometimes, the things that were asked about that era.

Speaker 3 It's so crazy to me.

Speaker 3 And I, again, I agree with you, like that comparison of a man doing the same thing, which we'll get into, because it's like, I'm doing the same thing, and yet I'm being called a slut, and like he's like the boy next door.

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Speaker 3 let's go back to the first time that you stepped on a stage. You were nine years old competing on the show Star Search.
Whose idea was it for you to do a show like that?

Speaker 2 I was at that time raised by my mom and my grandma, so strong women.

Speaker 2 And my grandma specifically

Speaker 2 really was so proud and, you know, really

Speaker 2 pushed it to be like taken seriously as something to be professional because singing all always just came to me as like this release. I grew up in

Speaker 2 a chaotic, you know, upbringing as a very young child and always kind of like feeling like a protector and all that and always felt isolated sort of in my position in my situation.

Speaker 2 And so singing, it was a sound of music that first inspired me to sing.

Speaker 2 And from then I just, you know, it was like just a release and a form of expression for me before I even understood what that meant.

Speaker 2 And then whenever my parents got divorced, moved in with my grandma, my grandma was like, you know, this this could be something. And

Speaker 3 it's so crazy that you're like, I just saw it as like a release where I was using, like, and meanwhile, we're like, we see you as one of the most truly talented singers of

Speaker 3 period, point blank, like hit notes that no one can. But you kind of mentioned your childhood.
And again, I think something in media is like, we see this version of you that's so put together.

Speaker 3 And it's like, oh, it's Christina Aguilera. She has money.
She has fame. You mentioned that you kind of grew up in an abusive household, but

Speaker 3 do you remember like the first moment you realized like this is unsafe or something was wrong?

Speaker 2 Fear. You know, you have to listen to your body.
And, you know, fear is something that,

Speaker 2 you know, you innately feel, you know,

Speaker 2 so right then and there, you know, something doesn't feel good and it's not right.

Speaker 2 And then, you know, having so much

Speaker 2 compassion for for my mother and seeing, you know, when you see someone

Speaker 2 being hurt, someone you love.

Speaker 2 Yeah, that, you know, I still, you know, at 42, I'm still affected by this. It's under the surface.
Trauma never leaves you. You just figure out ways to try and heal it.

Speaker 2 And to me, it's therapeutic to speak about it. And I saw my mom, you know, go through so much that I think that instilled a level of purpose for me in the sense of I

Speaker 2 always want to try and empower

Speaker 2 other people and people in situations where they feel voiceless and unheard and I just have such a deep-rooted need to try and you know use my voice and I would later discover and understand what that meant to me but it never leaves you and and you're triggered when you see movies when I when I you know I just immediately you go to that place

Speaker 2 you know and I've done a lot of healing and a lot of growth and releasing, you know, a lot of anger comes with that. A lot of shame comes with that.

Speaker 2 But,

Speaker 2 you know, it takes a lot for a woman to leave those situations as well. And my heart goes out because some of them don't leave them.
And, you know, and that could vary in a lot of ways.

Speaker 2 You know, sometimes it's financial. Sometimes it's fear of authorities not helping and then it getting worse.
Or, you know, sometimes they're,

Speaker 2 you know, sometimes it feels like there's no way out but you you know my mom luckily you know she really we would do these drives from at the time it was the last straw from jersey to my grandma's in pittsburgh and we would just do these nightly just me her and my little sister and we would just like do the night drive but you know all of that it stays with you but it's become a part of what's important to me is my message.

Speaker 3 When you say you would do these drives, was it while your mom had

Speaker 2 talked about that before? Yeah.

Speaker 2 Yeah, fuck.

Speaker 3 Five minutes ago? No, but I'm like, holy fuck, like, was that when you were still, your mom hadn't left your dad yet, but you were like, or had they left?

Speaker 2 There was some back and forth. There's some back, there's, you know, there's, there was some back and forth.
There's always the tug of like, I'm never going to do it again.

Speaker 2 You know, there's, there's sweet talking involved. There's a lot of shame also in like, well, why don't you just leave? It is so much more complicated than that.

Speaker 2 And it's a mental breakdown of self-esteem.

Speaker 2 And you start to believe someone else's narrative and verbal abuse to you and it it self-esteem is something that can break down so easily even to the most powerful woman executive um it doesn't matter what you do this you know we can go on stage and have these larger than life personas

Speaker 2 but all it takes is for you to believe someone's negative narrative about you. Once it's in there and it's working its way in, that's why I'm like so adamant with my daughter.

Speaker 2 I'm just like, first time somebody ever hits you, the first time somebody makes you feel not right about yourself. Oh, girl, I'm so protective, mama bear.

Speaker 3 And as, but as you should be, because, like you said, like you have that trauma in you that, like, you're like, I watch a fucking movie and I can feel it.

Speaker 3 And I love what you said about the concept of when someone says, why don't you just leave? When people say that, it's such an ignorant statement that like pisses me off.

Speaker 3 I had a loved one that was in an abusive relationship, and you're like, it's so much more fucking complex.

Speaker 3 But to leave, do you remember the moment that was like like your mom was like we're out

Speaker 2 yes officially when the abuse started to really turn onto me you know we were living in japan for like three years so we were super isolated which is where i started singing and looking back that's where i started to kind of i would like sing out of this window i have like a thing about like windows and like they just when you're feeling just you know,

Speaker 2 trapped, I don't know, there's something about the representation of a window and just like there's hope on the other side, you know?

Speaker 2 And so that's where I started, you know, singing these songs from like the sound of music and just to myself. And just that image, I'll always remember.

Speaker 2 It's like a core memory of just like, there's like something on the other side. There's like a bigger world.
There's a bigger purpose. I felt it as at a, as a, at a really young age.

Speaker 2 But yes, it was like a matter of things. And like you're in a foreign country where my dad was in the army, so we're on an army base.
I mean, in a situation like that, too, abuse runs rampant.

Speaker 2 You know, the walls are paper thin, you know, where we're living, and

Speaker 2 you can hear abuse just happening on the other side of the wall. You can hear,

Speaker 2 I mean, you know, it's terrifying, and it's like all you want to do is help, but a lot of times, even when you call the authorities, you don't get the help that you need, and then the door shuts, and you're with your abuser again.

Speaker 2 So, it's so important to try and research all you can, speak to people that you can trust, and really, you know,

Speaker 2 try and get yourself out of these situations because, you know, worst case scenario, you won't, you know, live to tell the story about it.

Speaker 3 Was it hard for your mother to, as a single mother, take care of you and your sister? Like then you started making money. Were you kind of providing for your family?

Speaker 2 Yes.

Speaker 3 Yes, sweetheart.

Speaker 2 Yes.

Speaker 2 Still am. But you know what? In that, in this role too, it comes with responsibility and responsibility that, you know,

Speaker 2 I know is destined destined for me. And I take on and I take it on, you know, well.

Speaker 2 When you're in those situations, you grow up really fast and you become like an immediate caretaker and protector of the person that's being hurt. And so, yeah, this is just like kind of like my role.

Speaker 2 Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 All my dogs are rescues. Like, you know, I'm just that person.
Your mother. Your mother.
Yes, I'm a mother.

Speaker 3 I think back and I'm like 12 years old, you join the Mickey Mouse Club, Brittany, Justin, and I'm thinking about like how wild that time must have been for your life.

Speaker 3 What do you remember like learning at 12 about the industry at that time?

Speaker 2 It's a work ethic. You know, it teaches you work ethic.
You're given a schedule, you know, where you are in a call sheet.

Speaker 2 You know, like it's, it's very disciplined and you either built for that or you're not, you know, and it's a it's something that you realize very quickly if if

Speaker 2 you know you're cut out for that kind of lifestyle. It's hectic, it's chaotic, it's go, go, go, it's on the run.
And that only builds, you know, the more you create.

Speaker 2 And I have to say, and my mom would always say this too, you know, she wasn't like your typical, like I would be around these kids who were just like really forced to do this, you know, and my heart would break for them.

Speaker 2 And my mom would be like, what is wrong with her? Like, you know, because you see these mothers and the kid doesn't even want to do it. But it was just, this is what I was born to do.

Speaker 2 So it was something that we really knew. And

Speaker 2 I pushed, you know, for the performances to happen again, like, but just in the most, I think, organic way to start, just like, because I loved it. Yeah.

Speaker 2 And for the first time, I was around a bunch of other kids who really loved it too. Like, it was just, you know, born performers.
Right.

Speaker 2 And it was really cool to feel that energy because, you know, coming up in school.

Speaker 2 In the town that I grew up, it wasn't really like, you know, it's a sports town, you know, and that kind of thing was very celebrated.

Speaker 2 but like arts and creativity and whatnot you have that in pittsburgh but yeah i just didn't have a lot of kids that truly um

Speaker 2 love doing that and those kids were just

Speaker 2 how talented everyone was ryan gosling like you know the carrie russell there was just so many people that it was just like wow what a what a casting agent you know to get everyone

Speaker 3 together i do relate to like feeling a little bit like you're out of place where you grew up and it only exacerbates the feeling of like wanting to get out and wanting to find like-minded people.

Speaker 3 But it's so interesting, also, hearing you talk because it's like it feels like you were almost made to have to grow up very quickly in many ways.

Speaker 3 Where like your ambition immediately led you to working at a young age, your family situation, you had to grow up quickly.

Speaker 3 Is there anything that you wish that you could have done more as like a child and in your in your younger life that you didn't really get to have a normal childhood?

Speaker 2 That's a good question.

Speaker 2 In really thinking about it,

Speaker 2 probably no.

Speaker 2 No, sometimes I would, you know, because I was was working a lot,

Speaker 2 but it's, I, I wanted to go, you know, I wanted to, you know,

Speaker 2 you know,

Speaker 2 I wanted to, I wanted to work, you know, I've always operated on like fight or flight, you know, in many different ways. And the more successful you are, of course, more is gonna come with that.

Speaker 2 That's very demanding and very scrutinizing.

Speaker 3 Do you think, though, there is the part of you that was really ambitious? Yes. And then naturally, like, we are who we are from like our childhood and nature versus nurture.

Speaker 3 Like, when you say, like, you were always running, wanting to go, do you have you connected that at all to also like

Speaker 3 your childhood?

Speaker 2 It could have been. I haven't really dissected that

Speaker 2 part,

Speaker 2 but

Speaker 2 I always dreamt really big. You know, I always dreamt really big.
And

Speaker 2 yeah, it could be. Looking for some sort of maybe escapism.
I mean, I think half the people that are in this business where we need, you know,

Speaker 2 it sucks because we're the most sensitive people on the planet.

Speaker 2 Yet we're looking for like, you know, but we have this like, you know, alter ego that we have to turn on to get the work done and to, and to, you know, follow a schedule, but also that makes us so vulnerable and in needing some kind of weird validation.

Speaker 3 Totally, totally.

Speaker 3 Your breakout solo, Genie in a Bottle. I was going to say top the charts.
That's like a fucking understatement. It took over the world.
What do you remember about the day that that song was released?

Speaker 2 I was still

Speaker 2 in New York. I was living.
I was on my own pretty early too, trying trying to get a record deal. Um, and so I was like,

Speaker 2 you know, house hopping from like odd places from my manager's house at the time to another manager, like it was very odd and weird. And I would, again, mama bear, like never with my daughter.

Speaker 2 Like, I would be so like protective and overseeing all that, which is a whole other story. But in New York, yeah, was where I started hearing it on the radio for the first time.

Speaker 2 So the album wasn't completely done and out and I was just remember hearing that and I was just like oh my god and it took me back to like driving around the car in Pittsburgh and only hoping that I would like hear my song one day on the radio and just dreaming about it again big dreamer Sagittarius very like you know sky's the limit I'm we're gonna fuck do this so it was the most amazing feeling in the world.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 3 And I think again, it's almost like dissecting like what everyone was watching in the world was like Jeannie Nabottle, Christina Aguilera, like this hot, amazing, talented young woman.

Speaker 3 Then you're saying, like, oh, I'm like living with managers.

Speaker 3 I'm like kind of in sketchy situations where the world probably wouldn't even fucking fathom that Christina Aguilera wasn't like set up and all good.

Speaker 3 But what were you emotionally going through at that time?

Speaker 2 Oh man, that's a loaded question. What was I emotionally going through at that time? I mean,

Speaker 2 looking back, I probably, I didn't have much time to even think about anything. I was given the schedule.
I was told what to do, you know, told what to do.

Speaker 2 My true opinion didn't really matter from everything, you know, like I remember like, you know, being told what to wear, what the image was going to be, and, you know,

Speaker 2 not feeling super comfortable.

Speaker 2 That's also the product of a kid being raised in the business too, you know, growing up and like you're constantly being told by adults and mainly men, you know, how and what to be.

Speaker 2 And you're hearing conversations too of what

Speaker 2 their ideal, you know, woman should be and look like.

Speaker 2 And so, at a young, impressionable age, like, I just remember it was just so, you take certain things on and then you have to like reprogram to think for yourself and what makes sense for you.

Speaker 2 So, um, it is a lot, you know, to take on. So, your dreams are coming true, but you're not quite getting to be the person that you want to be and telling the stories you want to tell.

Speaker 3 It's like so helpful.

Speaker 2 No,

Speaker 3 but straight up, I will be real with you.

Speaker 3 It's, I really think it's so helpful to hear you talk about this because I remember myself sitting at home with my older sister watching these videos and to know that like this first era, not to take anything away from it, but like that wasn't fully you.

Speaker 3 Like, that was like a lot of men in a room constructing, like, let's have her hair look like this and let's like have her wear this, which I get is part of the industry.

Speaker 3 But also, then my like heart goes out for baby Christina because I'm like,

Speaker 3 that age for a young woman to already be dealing with like insecurities and figuring yourself out, and then to have men be like, we need this, this, this, you were like exposed to such a different level of criticism and someone being so fixated on your looks.

Speaker 3 Like, how did that affect your self-worth?

Speaker 2 I mean, it's a lot. I mean, you could only imagine.
It's difficult enough growing up and trying to figure it out away from the camera, but being,

Speaker 2 you know, in front of it and, you know, scrutinized and picked apart and judged. And everybody's got a different opinion.

Speaker 2 That's the one thing I learned really early on: is like, whoa, no matter what I do, like, somebody's gonna be anti-it and somebody's not gonna be happy with it.

Speaker 2 And I was like, and I'd always diaried and journaled and like I always had this, thank God, this core sense of myself and what I wanted my purposes and my messages to do and to help.

Speaker 2 And that's what I feel like kept me writing that core line of like bringing me back to.

Speaker 2 real purpose and to be authentic with what I did.

Speaker 3 Then you decided, fuck this.

Speaker 3 I'm going to add my twist and add actually Christina into the mix of who I am and what I want to be. And you came out with the dirty music video, which

Speaker 3 is so fucking iconic. I was watching it this morning, just being like,

Speaker 3 every time, every time I just get excited to watch it. But at the time,

Speaker 3 the press pinned you as this bad girl. They were slut shaming you.
There were literally celebrities coming out being like, God damn, like she like looks like a whore.

Speaker 3 She looks like a slut, which is so fucking crazy because as I was watching it, re-watching it this morning, I was like, it's such a major celebration of the female body and sexuality.

Speaker 3 How do you remember breaking away from what everyone wanted you to do and making this happen? Slash, then how did those comments affect you once you released it?

Speaker 2 Yeah, so many things popping through my mind. Yeah.
Yeah, let's go.

Speaker 2 Yeah, like 10 answers in there that i could think of but yes um i was actually surprised because like i was so in my zone of just like expressing and creating this album um and and just truly trying to make every facet of it speak of myself as as a woman and i didn't and i didn't want to fit a box of like

Speaker 2 I'm sweet and vulnerable and demure and I'm gonna, you know, do the programmed, you know, pop format, but I'm not any particular one thing or one brand.

Speaker 2 And that's what I did not like about the business is the fact that they immediately try to box you and label it so that it's easier for them to understand.

Speaker 2 But it was hard, you know, being a kid and being like, oh my God, I'm just trying to live my life. I'm 21.
I'm having fun.

Speaker 2 Like these were my college years, you know, this was my moment, except everybody could see it.

Speaker 2 But I was having, you know, I'm an artist at the end of the day. You know, this is how I express myself, you you know.

Speaker 2 And I wasn't just coming with dirty, you know, then we came with beautiful and then we came with fighter, which was a representation kind of of, you know, my past and

Speaker 2 going against the grain of people that I felt really wronged me. Because that's another thing you, you know, people steal from you, people that are so close to you.

Speaker 2 I remember being so devastated about people that I, that really disappointed me to my core that I was like, oh, wow, like. I feel really alone.
You know, like it was, it really like,

Speaker 2 and then you want to retreat and then you want to get defense mechanisms up and then you don't trust anyone like as if i didn't already have trust issues you know from my child i was about to say like layers on layers on layers but but in any case you know it's part of my journey it's it's what i was meant to go through and honestly i wouldn't have it any other way because

Speaker 2 Had I not gone through all these things, I wouldn't sing the way I do. I wouldn't create the way I do.
I wouldn't write the way I do. I was like a sponge.
I just like took it all in.

Speaker 2 And when I was ready to just be like, no more, I don't care. And I remember being quoted saying, you know, I don't care this next record if I sell one record or one million.
Like

Speaker 2 all the cool like accolades and stuff, that's amazing. I'm grateful.

Speaker 2 But at the end of the day, I have to like sit with myself and feel like I'm contributing a bigger thing to the world than just a pop song and a chart and an award. Like it's deeper than that to me.

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Speaker 2 I'm just like sitting here

Speaker 3 a little, not in shock, but I will say like,

Speaker 3 You truly never know what you're gonna get when someone walks in a door and I'm think picturing Christina Aguilera, like grew up obsessing over you, had posters. Like

Speaker 2 you're so fucking normal.

Speaker 3 I don't know where I would be if like at this age I started working and at this age I'm living with creepy managers and then this age people are stealing from you and like to see like you sitting here and having such like a grasp on what happened to you.

Speaker 3 But every statement, you constantly are like, but I'm grateful and like I have perspective.

Speaker 3 And like it's really cool to see how you've kind of taken ownership of what you can don't give any of those bastards like any fucking out though I look back at articles and I feel like there were so many comments on your

Speaker 3 you're like oh the articles you're like sweetie which ones take a sip like is there alcohol in here no were you happy being known as the tiny girl with the big voice like how did you feel about your body as a young woman that the world is commenting on your body it was crazy growing up and then yeah, hearing people talk about, I mean, everything, everything.

Speaker 2 It's, it's, you know, having opinions on everything, your looks, your, your voice, your, your style, your, it's everything.

Speaker 3 Back then, you also exuded this like confidence sexually, like on stage and in your music. And for the world, we were all like, oh my God, like, I want to be like her.

Speaker 3 Like, she's so sexy and beautiful and smart and talented. How did you feel about your sexuality back then?

Speaker 2 I wanted to always own it. You know, it was important to me.

Speaker 2 I didn't, I think also, you know, the older I got and the more, and by that time, you know, for most people, that would maybe be in your like 30s to have that mindset of like, I'm going to do things my way.

Speaker 2 You know, I mean, I'd grown up with so many opinions that I was just like, I'm not going to play by your rules. I'm not going to see myself as you see me.

Speaker 2 I'm going to own my sexuality for myself. Sexuality is a beautiful thing

Speaker 2 and we need to take care of it as women. We need to really make sure that we prioritize it and ourselves and what it means to us because every woman is different.

Speaker 2 And I never wanted to also insert the fact that I was so comfortable with my sexuality and, like, yeah, like we're gonna dance it, we're gonna do, you know what I mean? Like, all this stuff.

Speaker 2 I never wanted to also, you know, even though it did anyway, make some women like, you know, uncomfortable with what I was doing, but I never wanted to make it like, you know, you have to be this way too.

Speaker 2 Like, everyone has their different comfort zone with it.

Speaker 2 and and just because i want to express myself this way like let again let people live totally like let everybody own it the way they need to own it let's talk about it you know and and back then

Speaker 2 you know that's what's cool about what you do what you do uh is is we're able to have these open conversations now now i see women more than ever talking to each other and it's like okay and and so accessible with our phones and like social media that's the positive of it and and and everything is is that we get to like like have more accessibility totally other totally and be like this is happening you too right like are we all the same age girl like totally but I didn't have that back then so yes it was it was very hard and very terrifying and I took so much personal I really did and then you have people in this situation this is why you're my first podcast because you have you know you're so used to creating these like certain walls and defense mechanisms because you're just like people are baiting you and then you're like wait I didn't say that and I didn't say it like that you know how it is no dude you're so right because I feel like your era of coming up, it was like extra hard.

Speaker 3 Yeah, paparazzi, tabloids. I'm like, holy shit, like people so fixated on every single move.
What was dating like for you?

Speaker 3 What was your dating life like as you were like coming up in your career, like late teens?

Speaker 2 I didn't really have time for that,

Speaker 2 but

Speaker 2 I did. Um,

Speaker 2 I always went for things that I would feel safe about. Like, you know, we'd have our, you know, you'd travel and you'd meet certain people, but I was, it's so funny that I gave this persona

Speaker 2 because I probably was like the last person to lose my virginity. And like, you know, I just, I don't know, it was something that was for me.
You know what I mean? And that's, I guess, why my messages

Speaker 2 went the way they did too, is because I owned it first,

Speaker 2 Maybe.

Speaker 2 But it doesn't matter how it goes down as long as you find your way and your path with being comfortable with yourself. But

Speaker 2 we always get like off topic.

Speaker 3 When did you lose your virginity? Bring me back, girl. Tell us.

Speaker 2 It was later than you would think. Okay.
You know, given the girl that was doing dirty and all this, you know.

Speaker 2 But yeah, it's just, it's more of a funny thing looking back where it's just like people thought probably like you were popping off.

Speaker 2 But yeah, it was, I had, you know, I had certain dancers that were like close quarter because you have to like, you know, you're traveling a lot and there's, you're, you have accessibility to only so many things.

Speaker 2 So, you know, it is what it is. And then, you know, like,

Speaker 2 I mean, yeah,

Speaker 2 a lot of things that I'm just like, yeah, maybe I should have realized he wasn't looking at me. He wasn't interested in me, you know, like he's looking at him.

Speaker 2 Christina, there's a lot of things, you know, that I'm just like, oh, sad. Like, I feel bad for like my younger self, like, oh, sad.

Speaker 3 I love you, little PR trained. You're like, and maybe a dancer that was more into men.
And I should have seen the...

Speaker 3 So, okay, so you look, you had an interesting experience. Despite being such an icon, I was looking and I'm like, you don't have too crazy of like a celebrity roster attached to your name.

Speaker 3 And my question is, Miss Aguilera, was that actually because that was intentional? Or were you just really good at keeping things hidden and a little secret that we didn't know about?

Speaker 2 Yeah, I definitely, I've had my experiences, but I also like,

Speaker 2 oh, I mean, my life is hectic enough. And like, this is a very narcissistic industry.

Speaker 2 And like, my anxieties couldn't maybe take somebody that did the exact same thing I did and like ran around and traveled. It's like, I know how this goes.
Like, I'm too, like, I'm too

Speaker 2 too vulnerable for this. I'm too sensitive to like, be so paranoid.
So, like, you know, this business is very demanding. It's a lot.
And, um, and, and, and yeah, I just,

Speaker 2 you know, I, I've definitely like not been into the celebrity thing. Right.

Speaker 3 No, that's really refreshing to hear because it's like you, you see some people like trying to, you, it's, it's, it's obvious on the internet, like, oh, this couple is appearing and it's like to stay relevant.

Speaker 2 And I can imagine how obnoxious like that word is of like being in the industry for so long it's like how does the stress of like managers and people being like we need to stay relevant we need to do this like how does that affect you it's just annoying more than anything else I don't want to be corny and be like it's but it really is to me about intentions you know and if it if it doesn't feel right to me like I just can't do it I can't I have a really hard time forcing myself it wasn't interesting to me I don't know it's so interesting too because I like when you're like guys next door interesting because you know what is so fascinating it's like did anyone ever try to be like hey like look at these people doing couples like this will make your career even crazier yeah yeah I've you know I've had that I just if it's not real to me and authentic I can't do it you know I can't force something as personal as that

Speaker 3 I know you mentioned trust issues is there any because I don't think a lot of us can fathom the amount of cameras and paparazzi back then. Like, is there any paranoia that has lingered in you?

Speaker 2 Oh, yeah, 100%.

Speaker 2 I mean, it's it, I went through a bad period at a certain time where even like the clicking of the camera paparazzi, like, like, just was so like upsetting to me. I'd like have a panic attack.

Speaker 2 And I, I know I've heard other celebrities actually say this too. And then you have really horrible stories that happen whenever you, again, starting to believe a narrative, you know? And then, um,

Speaker 2 yeah, it's a very weird thing um

Speaker 3 uh that kind of attention and that that kind of um that world so yeah that that is a part of too why it's just like you know it's very anxiety riding for me you know um let's talk a little bit about relationships and then we're gonna talk about sex first with relationships i'm curious because i am currently in therapy and i i think it's so interesting of like we're all trying to undo shit that our parents fucked us up with it's just the fact i don't care if you have perfect parents, then you're still fucked up.

Speaker 3 So it's like, are there any patterns in relationships,

Speaker 3 previous relationships that you now kind of recognize that you had to stop and try to break moving forward?

Speaker 2 I feel like bad patterns.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 You know, it's still a process sometimes to really...

Speaker 2 You have to check yourself too. I think there's accountability in, you know, things that even though they're not your fault, you're still conditioned and programmed in a way of fear and paranoia.

Speaker 2 And also sometimes not given a good guideline can really mess you up, you know, because

Speaker 2 then it's like, is this normal? Or is this just like, or is this something I need to leave the relationship for?

Speaker 2 Like, I'm so like into being like, okay, wait, do I need to be taking this shit right now? Or can I walk the, or should I walk the fuck away? Like, you know what I mean? Like, what's normal?

Speaker 2 What's like,

Speaker 2 so it's a constant, I, you know, I'm, I believe in therapy too, the right kind of therapy.

Speaker 3 I know that you mentioned you have like a collection of diaries that you've kept for like 20 some years. Yeah.

Speaker 3 What's a diary entry that makes you kind of sad for your younger self when you read it?

Speaker 2 I think just, yeah, how hurt I was because I was so into this being like one day I'm going to, I'm going to make it and I'm going to, you know,

Speaker 2 you know see myself on MTV and like all this stuff like it was just it was such a dream and coming from such a good place to all of a sudden you're shook by

Speaker 2 all the shit that comes with the success and yeah I think it's like it's sad when I when I see how

Speaker 2 how some like press and articles and some interviews that were just

Speaker 2 so taken out of context or just mean like how hurt I was by that truly like affected and and then yeah it just makes you internalize negative thoughts about yourself and feelings if you can share what was something specific you know back then there was a lot of like you know

Speaker 2 it was a it was a different business where there was a lot of

Speaker 2 you know, female comparisons and double standards with women. And it's just was a constant like pitting against each other.
And like, it just felt like just punches in the face.

Speaker 2 And it was just, you know, yeah, it's fucking hard. It was, it was hard to just constantly feel like, you know, you're making music and doing something you love.

Speaker 2 And then, you know, someone's spinning something so negative about it.

Speaker 2 And it was just, it was really hard because sometimes who you were pitted against, you actually genuinely, you know, loved and like respected.

Speaker 2 So it was just like, you know, know but again then you have people like baiting you and and and and

Speaker 2 do you know what she said about you well you know what I mean and then you're like wait what you know so it's just like and you're too much of a kid to understand like what's happening I hated that shit you know like that's why also like now I'm just so excited to see you know more

Speaker 2 you know, exposed women supporting women because now you're cutting through the middleman a lot more, which is really, really nice.

Speaker 3 Yeah, I think it clearly worked for the tabloids to have characters and ideas of if we pit this person against this person, this is going to be, this is going to sell through because these are two huge names or three huge names or this kind.

Speaker 3 Like, it's so insane.

Speaker 3 But then it's like, I'm an individual. Why can't I just be...

Speaker 3 Christina Aguilera, this incredible singer, and leave it at that and then let everyone also have their own careers because there's so many other people thriving.

Speaker 3 And that must have been very hard to...

Speaker 2 I remember there was, yeah, a headline that was like

Speaker 2 comparing me with another artist. And it was like, it's like Roe versus Wade.
You decide, you know, and I was like, oh my God, you're so dramatic.

Speaker 3 Like, you're like, it's not that serious.

Speaker 2 You're too young to even really understand what that meant. So I was like,

Speaker 2 you can just understand the level of like how young I was being thrust into this world. That was like, wait, what are you saying? What are you saying?

Speaker 3 Dude, the pettiness to compare people to Roe v. Wade.

Speaker 3 Like, let's tone it down a notch, TMZ or whoever the fuck. You know what I mean?

Speaker 2 I know, I know. It wasn't even piecepaper.
It wasn't even like a,

Speaker 2 yeah, it was too much. It was too much.
Okay.

Speaker 3 I love to ask people this because it does give insight.

Speaker 3 What is your biggest insecurity?

Speaker 2 Mmm, girl.

Speaker 2 Girl.

Speaker 2 What is my biggest insecurity?

Speaker 2 Oh my God, I really wasn't prepared for that question. I don't know.
I could think of,

Speaker 2 I mean, every, I don't know, every day it's something different. It's a part of you.
Like,

Speaker 2 what is my biggest insecurity?

Speaker 2 Biggest insecurity.

Speaker 2 I think we all have this where we just don't feel good enough. I don't know.

Speaker 2 In every sense, you know, I think we can all pick different parts parts of ourselves and pick ourselves apart forever. But I really,

Speaker 2 it's something you have to train yourself against.

Speaker 3 When you say you're not good enough.

Speaker 3 Take a sip.

Speaker 3 She's coming back. No, but when you say you're not good enough.

Speaker 2 Everything. Like, you know, I mean, I think this business operates like a business, you know, and it's all self-worthing.

Speaker 2 And then image, yeah, I've been through the gamut of, you know, people growing up in this business, they're going to see you as a teenager, a kid.

Speaker 2 They're going to see you as a young woman coming into your body and expressing yourself. They're going to see you as a grown woman.
They're going to see you be pregnant. They're going to see you.

Speaker 2 go through the gamut of different places and stages of your life where you're different kind of weights. And, you know, we all go through these things as women in general.

Speaker 2 But yeah, it's so hard to just be inundated with different opinions. And everybody has different standards for what what they want but again women like embracing this now more than ever.

Speaker 3 So yeah, not being good enough, I think, is the perfect answer that makes sense of just a culmination of this whole interview is like you wanting to be yourself and being in an industry where it's like picking apart every fucking thing you do, whether it's the people you're working with or the media.

Speaker 3 And it's like, it's never good enough. It's never good enough.
It's almost like

Speaker 2 everyone has a definition of what good enough enough means. And then the same people are that are rating good enough don't feel good about themselves.
And so, like, where is this all like stemming?

Speaker 2 So, it's cyclical, and you have to really isolate your perspective. Because even whenever, you know, someone's comparing you to someone else, you're like, well, wait, should I be comparison?

Speaker 2 Like, you start just second-guessing yourself. And so,

Speaker 2 yeah,

Speaker 2 it's tough out there. It's tough out there.

Speaker 3 And how we get through that is by having sex.

Speaker 3 Not transition. I'm like, no.

Speaker 3 Let's talk about sex.

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Speaker 3 What is your favorite part about sex?

Speaker 2 Getting off.

Speaker 2 I mean, like, but it's not that cut and drive. My favorite part,

Speaker 2 I love intimacy.

Speaker 2 It depends. Every person is different.
And that's what I love about sexuality. I love getting into it and finding out how everyone operates.
You know, how much of a freak are you?

Speaker 2 How much of a, you know, submissive are you? Like, what is your,

Speaker 2 what is your playground?

Speaker 3 How much of a freak are you, Christina?

Speaker 2 How much of a freak are you?

Speaker 3 I would say I actually this is a question because I will answer that. I will say I remember my sex in college.

Speaker 3 I had lost my virginity in high school and I was like, I don't even know what I was supposed to just feel from that. Like what the fuck just happened? Like, um, was that supposed to feel good? Yeah.

Speaker 3 And then when I got to college, I felt like, oh, I'm like having good sex. No, I fucking wasn't.
No, I fucking wasn't.

Speaker 3 I thought, because I was comparing it to high school sex, which was like literally sandpaper and it was like awful feeling.

Speaker 3 So I'm like, then I think as I started to explore my sexuality more like junior, senior year of college, I started to be more confident. And kind of being like, fuck the guy.

Speaker 3 Like, I'm going to get myself off. And that's when I got a vibrator and I started to use lube.
And it's like,

Speaker 3 when you can get yourself off first and you're like, oh, that is what I want to feel every time I'm fucking a guy, a girl, whoever it is.

Speaker 3 So I would say, as I've explored more in the bedroom, I've just naturally become more of a freak because I'm like, I want to feel this. I want to feel this with my partner.

Speaker 3 I want us to like explore new things together, if that makes sense. So it's been like a gradual progression.
But I would say like,

Speaker 3 I wasn't like fucking like great in college and I thought I was like a freak.

Speaker 2 But nobody, you know, nobody is. Nobody knows what they're doing at first.
That's why it should feel like exploration and it's okay.

Speaker 2 But you're so insecure at that age and you see these movies and all that. You just want to have it all figured out right off the bat or you're too, you know, young to speak up for yourself.

Speaker 2 And, you know, it kills me too, whenever you're grown and you feel too insecure to speak up for yourself, when you're not in a relationship that feels safe enough for you to have these conversations or even to compare notes with other women, you know, because it's so shameful.

Speaker 2 But, um, but sex is fun and knowing your body is so important, you know, and you're only going to know your body when you spend time with yourself first so that you even know, so that you even know what to ask from your partner or what you like.

Speaker 3 Do you incorporate toys into the bedroom?

Speaker 2 I do. I mean, like, you know, as you mentioned, the vibrator was a game changer whenever I was, you know, first exploring myself and, you know, first sex store I ever went into.

Speaker 2 And, you know, I was just like, oh my God.

Speaker 2 I literally remember even having like this little like pocket size one I could like pack in my bag on an airplane like I was horny like you know what I mean like are you getting off on an airplane I know she's getting excited just talking about it but that's how we should be yes of course are you kidding me like sometimes sometimes it's an anxiety thing too like a lot of girls like when I'm nervous like I would feel it very early on like when I was like in school like even as a girl if like I felt nervous about something I would be like oh oh,

Speaker 3 you're like, oh, when did you start masturbating?

Speaker 3 When was the first time you masturbated?

Speaker 2 Oh my God, when was? Oh, well, I think we all kind of like start

Speaker 2 as little girls, like when you rub up against things and it feels good. And, you know, like, you know, I think that's also whenever it's just like, you have to be like, it's okay.

Speaker 2 Like, that's for, you know, have your private time. So you're not doing it in front of like company.

Speaker 2 Like, you just, you have to learn these things, and sometimes we don't have good teachers, and that makes us feel safe. So,

Speaker 2 that came early on, yeah. So, it's like you know, some people I think have more sensitive areas, and I just have always been engaged with

Speaker 2 understanding there's things happening down there.

Speaker 3 Christina is masturbating on planes, she's getting off, she's having the best time of her life. What is

Speaker 3 your best skill in the bedroom?

Speaker 2 Oh, wow, oh my god, yeah,

Speaker 3 Like, where do I begin?

Speaker 2 I mean,

Speaker 2 hands down, it's, I mean, it's got to be blowjobs. I mean, I'm a, I love a blowjob, you know? I mean, I,

Speaker 2 and I, you know, I, I know, I, I enjoy it. Like, I had a lot of, um, also, like, male friends who I was always like, and what do you do here? Like, I was literally, I grew up around them.

Speaker 2 So it's like, I know every different part and the sensitive areas and I, I like, I literally, I do enjoy it.

Speaker 2 I hear some women don't like it but i don't know man it's it's it's a turn on you know it is because and i love that you're saying that too because like we're like

Speaker 3 we can enjoy ourselves get off there's nothing better than if a guy actually knows how to eat you out but there's something so hot about pleasuring your partner

Speaker 3 because that gets me off i don't want like him to not be enjoying it because i know i'm going to be enjoying myself Do you have any little tips? Is there any? You're like, I know the areas.

Speaker 3 Like, what areas?

Speaker 2 What do we see in that? Sexuality is a very, you you know, specific thing.

Speaker 2 So, like, what one guy might like, another one doesn't, you know, like, there are some guys that don't like their balls being touched or tampered with.

Speaker 2 There are some guys that like brutal things happening to them. And, you know,

Speaker 2 yeah, there's a lot of different levels, you know, that's why it's important to like be with a partner where you can really just explore.

Speaker 2 And there's still a lot more things that I have not explored yet that are on my to-do list. And, you know, I think, you know, it's hard when you also have kids

Speaker 2 you know sometimes it's been like oh okay

Speaker 2 and you're here okay amazing so it's it's a lot of things and but it's something you have to make time for but yeah I love that and I also like

Speaker 2 I mean I think there's there's something to be said after you put in the hard work. I think swallowing is really, you know, a good thing.
And it's got a lot of protein, I have to say.

Speaker 2 I'm a promoter of the swallow, okay? I like I didn't put in that hard work for nothing, you know.

Speaker 2 We we went in there, I got tugged and pulled, and like, you know, there's things happening, you know, maybe gagged, I don't know, but you know, I mean,

Speaker 2 hey, whatever your pleasure points are, but it's fun, it should be fun, you know, as long as you feel good and safe with your partner, whatever your bag is. But

Speaker 3 I fucking love you, I love you so much. That was fucking amazing.
Okay, top three sex positions.

Speaker 2 Oh,

Speaker 2 I think,

Speaker 2 oh, you're fun. I don't think, you know, like you're actually safe to talk to.
It's not creepy.

Speaker 3 Yeah, like a male journalist like Christina.

Speaker 2 I mean, top three. You're like, I mean, yeah.
Like, I don't have sex anymore. It's definitely a new dawn, new day to be like safe about it.
It depends on the mood.

Speaker 2 Definitely, I mean, I love a lot of positions. Sometimes it's nice, like like early in the morning, like from your side, from behind.

Speaker 2 And it's like, there's like holding involved and like, you know, spooning involved. I like, I love to cuddle.
I love to feel like safe and protected. But then it's like, I get too hot.

Speaker 2 And then I'm like, okay, leave me alone. I just wanted to feel it for a second.
I'm good.

Speaker 3 But

Speaker 3 the morning from the side is also so nice because it's like, we're half doing it, we're not, but it's like kind of a nice wake-up. You can get your vibrator in there.

Speaker 2 And then your ass starts being like, oh, oh, and then you're pulling. I mean, I like it.

Speaker 2 the chairs might become

Speaker 2 because then halfway through you're like doing it from the side and then you like kind of flip on your stomach and then it's from behind the whole thing is so good i mean you know you don't know where it's gonna go sky's the limit but um there's that yeah like some good like doggies sometimes like in the shower there's you know i've been you know there's been some good times you know like there's like the studio soundboard been you know been bent over there a couple times it's it's fun you know use your imagination you know Christina.

Speaker 2 I love that Plane can be fun.

Speaker 2 We've definitely hid some things under the blankets when the seats are big enough to like you know, we've been high, you know, I I can't believe we didn't get caught like so many times in so many situations.

Speaker 2 Like, thank you Lord.

Speaker 3 But I have always thought about that, but I feel like I'm too much of like a pussy that I was like, fuck, I don't know if I'm gonna be able to pull that off.

Speaker 3 Yeah, you gotta be like, are you talking about a private plane, though?

Speaker 2 No, I'm not actually.

Speaker 2 On international flights, you know, when I turn the light off, like the chairs are like, I don't know where you're sitting, but you know, there's always like you know, room for like be get creative, and you use you know, blankets.

Speaker 2 It's like, it's like the position we just talked about, the little spoon. It's like, oh, I feel safe with my partner here.
Like, we're just sleeping together.

Speaker 3 The flight attendant's like, ma'am.

Speaker 2 Yeah, yeah, no, you gotta wait till everyone's like going to sleep. You know what I mean? So, yeah, you gotta, you know, it's setting the mood.

Speaker 3 Everyone's like, note to self, try to find Christina Aguilera on a flight at some point in life and sit next to her. Oh my god, that's iconic.

Speaker 2 Follow these instructions.

Speaker 3 I love how open you are just about all this because again, I think something I've tried to do in my show and I love that you are doing is talking about this. It should not be shameful.

Speaker 3 We should not be embarrassed.

Speaker 3 Like we're celebrating the fact that we've been repressed for so many fucking years to even enjoy ourselves, to even acknowledge like the lower half of our body and what's going on down there.

Speaker 3 And I think it's important for women like us to sit here and casually talk about something because I know how many women are at home being like, if Christina Aguilera can talk and she's casually coming out being like, this is this.

Speaker 3 Like, it just is. It's an exciting new era, I feel like, for women.
And it's like we get to own our shit and be like, fuck you.

Speaker 3 If you want to call us a slut or a whore or whatever, we don't care because we're not.

Speaker 3 We're just enjoying ourselves and doing what we should be doing, which is celebrating our bodies and doing the same thing that men have done forever.

Speaker 2 It's true. It's really, really true.
I think because of generations of like not knowing how to talk about it, being shamed for it,

Speaker 2 it being like, you know, something that's very, you know, celebrated from a male's point of view and objectified, that we don't know where we stand with it.

Speaker 2 But now more than ever, I feel like this generation is like having none of it. And we want to talk about it.
We want to engage. We want to be educated about it.
We want to know what's good for it.

Speaker 2 And we should. Now's the time for that.
And making sure, you know, that's why it's like music and lyrics. You know, I had a song called Sex for Breakfast on my, you know, one of my albums.

Speaker 2 We've never been shy about things, but this is literally, you know, just the next progression for me. And in passing something down to my daughter that she can enjoy and understand.

Speaker 2 Like, this is nothing to be ashamed of. This is healthy, natural.
Put good things on it. You know, vitamin, vitamins for there.
Vitamins for there.

Speaker 3 Okay, talk to me to me about playground a little bit because why did you decide to be a part of this?

Speaker 2 Well, I think the authenticity behind what it means to me being always in the forefront, either defending, you know, or celebrating or opening conversations and doors for women to be able to feel safe enough to talk about their sexuality and what that means for them.

Speaker 2 Because again, everybody is so different and there's no shame in the game. I just want to really just

Speaker 2 now at this point in my life, being a mother who has a daughter who's developing her own relationship with her body and asking me, you know, when she sees, you know, that time of the month for me, like, what's it, what's a tampon?

Speaker 2 What does it do? You know, how am I going to approach these conversations? And, and in making her make sure that she

Speaker 2 feels she's taking care of herself so that she can also engage with a future healthy relationship that's sex positive. Yeah.
Um, sex is very important. I love the product playground.
It's all safe.

Speaker 2 It's all natural. And it just, you know, you know, feels good.

Speaker 2 You know, we've explored with this um you know safe for you and um and it's so pretty it fits in like the pomir i love it because you can put it on your nightstand it's like your bedside best friend is what I like to call her.

Speaker 2 And this is a product that's literally good for you and good for your vagina. And like, why aren't we paying more attention to that for ourselves?

Speaker 3 And I love that you're saying, like, why can't we just walk into stores and be like, I'm going to buy this for my vagina? I'm going to buy this for my armpits.

Speaker 3 Like, it should feel like a whole wellness check that I don't think also women feel like lube specifically has had such a negative connotation because, oh, you're so dry.

Speaker 3 And then a man is like, oh, are you not turned on? And it's like, no, you idiot. That has actually nothing to do with you.
Nothing. Like, what a concept.
It has nothing to do with you.

Speaker 3 Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I feel like there's still this shame around like pulling out lube.
And all I can ever say is, like, if you aren't using lube, you're not having the best sex you could be having.

Speaker 2 Point blank.

Speaker 2 Point blank.

Speaker 3 Sex is 10 times better with lube.

Speaker 2 That's a thousand percent. And it's like, we wouldn't think of like doing things to our face.
Like we moisturize. There's women that do, we do 10-step beauty routines and things.

Speaker 2 We wouldn't think of like going through a drugstore and not hitting that section, not doing something moisturizing for our hair. Like this is the epicenter of power.

Speaker 2 Like we need to be nurturing and taking care of and celebrating this very important part. It literally, yeah, it's the star of the show.

Speaker 2 So we literally need to be giving, you know, nurture, tender, loving care to it. And also, it should be explored and what better to help do this.

Speaker 2 But then, you know, sometimes it's a little get a little something, something down there. Good, yeah.

Speaker 2 Last question.

Speaker 2 In a last, last overall, ready no.

Speaker 2 Wait.

Speaker 3 In a 2018 billboard interview, you told the journalist to write great things about you.

Speaker 3 Do you have any great things about yourself that you want to share with the world that you feel like maybe people don't know about you or misunderstand about you? That you're like, you know what?

Speaker 3 Listen to this.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I grew up at a time again where there was like a lot of

Speaker 2 negativity that was, you know, just always trying to be,

Speaker 2 you know, poked, you know, and I'm, I'm also,

Speaker 2 you know,

Speaker 2 you know, I

Speaker 2 have no time for like negativity. And it's like, I've been in the business long enough to know, like, you know,

Speaker 2 I just want none of it anymore to be a part of like the headline. And it's like something that, you know, as a grown woman, you can have more control over.
But, you know,

Speaker 2 I don't like getting poked under the table because then the clocks come out. You know, we're in an elevated time

Speaker 2 in all of our lives where we are more open and talking to each other. And I'm just, I want peaceful energy, peaceful vibes.

Speaker 2 Like, I don't need to be talking about things that happened, you know, decades ago. Like, let's grow up.
Let's embrace. Like, now more than ever is the time for that.
And so I think,

Speaker 2 yeah,

Speaker 2 just.

Speaker 2 you know, don't poke the bear anymore.

Speaker 2 Like, don't poke, don't poke, don't poke me under the table because I'm still not going to be, you know, I'm still not going to be, I'm not going to be baited anymore, you know, like I a long time, you know, it happened for a long time too.

Speaker 2 This happened even, you know, after I had my babies. It's like a lot of people,

Speaker 2 because they're, you know, they need some attention too.

Speaker 2 They're like, I'll get poked under the table and be like, it's one of those passive, what do you call these people that are just passive aggressive?

Speaker 2 They'll poke under the table when no one's looking, then be like, oh, I don't know why she's so upset. I don't know.
She's crazy. You know what I mean?

Speaker 3 Just leave me alone.

Speaker 2 Manipulative, like, because like, yeah, don't poke me too much. Like, let's not get it twisted, though.
I'm sensitive and all that, but I'm a tough cookie.

Speaker 2 At the end of the day, I truly don't give a fuck. You know what I mean? Like, I just really don't.

Speaker 2 And I, you know, this is why, like, I just don't have time for the petty bullshit or, you know, just, you know, sometimes, you know, the celebrity status stuff. It's just like, I just.

Speaker 2 I want to live a real life and a loving life, you know? I just, I want good things around. My energy space is so important to preserve that.
And, and for my children, you you know

Speaker 3 no i appreciate you explaining that because it's also like i get what you're saying it's like i'm trying to be over here living my life yeah stop trying to have me come back into the bullshit that i was in for so long decades decades grown women shit truly truly involved examples christina

Speaker 3 I honestly cannot thank you enough for coming on. I know you don't do this often and like

Speaker 3 getting to know you truly. I respected you before, but like naturally when you get to know someone, the respect just grows, and you're such a strong, inspirational human being.

Speaker 3 And I just, I am so happy I got to sit with you.

Speaker 2 Thank you so much. Thank you.

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