Rob’s Love Island Tell All (FBF)

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What is up, Daddy Gang? It is your founding father, Alex Cooper, with Call Her Daddy.

Rob, welcome to Call Her Daddy. Thank you.
Thank you. Thank you.
Rob. Rob, Rob, Rob, Rob, Rob.
I feel like so many women around the world right now have so many feelings and emotions towards you. So today we're going to really peel back the onion and we're going to get into it.
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So you just got off the plane from Fiji.

You came directly here after getting eliminated.

How has it been like acclimating to the real world?

It's really, really strange.

One of the big things is like neon isn't on everything.

Like neon signs, like the lights there.

I got really used to just seeing that every day. I got to my hotel room and I was like it's so dark in here I had to like pause I didn't know what you were fucking saying you're saying like the way the villa looks is so bright used to it you get used to like just being around like literally there's a neon sign on every surface like it's like lights up right and I got out and I was like it's so dark out here, that's not kind of what I was asking, though.
Oh, what do you want to know? I just I don't know. When you got your phone back.
Oh, right. How did you like handle all of it? Like what did you first do when you got your phone? I called my family.
You called your family. I called my family.
They gave me my phone on the way to the airport and I knew I wasn't going to have service. So I called my family in like a group chat FaceTime, you know? Yeah.
Immediately. I saw all their faces and I was really nervous because I was like I was either worried that they were going to be like hey Robert how are you but they were all like hey like they were so happy to see me and they seemed like they're like we're so proud of you like you did so good you were yourself the whole time and I was like oh what a relief well because you thought there was a chance they were gonna be like you ruined our family's reputation you dragged our name through the rug like i just didn't know like i didn't know because like it's a tv show right yeah i know what happened i was there yeah i knew that i was authentic the whole time right but it can get clipped and it can get edited and like yeah you know have you checked your dms yet um what's going on in there rob it's honestly like at this point like too much to even it's just a refresh and then it's like a new page do you have any like celebs in there um i had a really good conversation with noah from stranger things that's so random i you want to hear what i said to him i said the funniest thing back i think it went over his head but it was so funny and then we just talked about the show like he was just a big fan and i just talked to him about it oh wait should i not say well he just said he just it was fine he said i love you on unlot on love island you stole my heart and i said um thank you so much i love stranger things thank you noah schnapp from the hit tv show stranger things i just gave him back like a bot response i thought it'd be really funny and he just said thanks rob you and leah should have won and then we just talked about the show for a while is that like so surreal that like you have someone like that in your dms yeah it was also worse that like i just didn't even think about it and i was talking to him and then my sister was like what are you doing i was like i'm actually having just a casual conversation with the guy from stranger things right now but it was funny have any women slid A few, I'm actually having just a casual conversation with the guy from Stranger Things right now.
But it was funny.

Have any women slid in?

A few, I'm pretty sure.

Yeah.

Any that you're like, oh.

Well, I think right now at this point in time, I'm pretty like emotionally drained.

I don't know if I'm ready for anything like that. You're not ready.

Yeah.

But like good to know they're there.

Whatever you want to call it.

I saw that everyone was like up in arms on the internet about you got out of the villa and you followed leah and then eventually you followed all of the rest and andrea and all of them yeah but is it freak you out that like all everyone is like seeing everything you're doing or do you love the attention come on rob look what you're wearing you love the attention i had to wear them okay don't come for the overalls i had to wear them i saw the memes and everything and i was like bro i was like you know might as well okay first talk to me about the overalls for a second so you did bring other clothes obviously but like was this the first thing you packed no i didn't even plan on wearing these so i brought these so love island usually the intro is you're like doing your job and you get a text. You're like, oh, time to go to the villa.
So that's what these were for. Oh, do you wear these when you wrangle the snakes? Sometimes, yeah.
Often, sometimes. Yeah.
So yeah, so I brought them for that part. Okay.
And then I was like, oh, fuck it. So I just threw them in the villa bag that goes in.
And then I wore them and I was like, dude, this is the move. Because Fiji is really's really hot right and i didn't have to wear pants a shirt basically it was like pants a little bib but it's very breathable it was comfortable but were you feeling yourself in it too like did you think the ladies were gonna love the overalls no no definitely not they were okay they didn't like them there like okay it wasn't a no are you currently doing d on d currently i'm not d on d And what is d on d to people that maybe didn't watch the season of love island d on d is dick on denim and can you talk about that because it feels a little bit masochistic it feels a little bit like rug burn do you know no no it's not like that you should well you can't try it but oh uh i would encourage anyone out there to try d on d it's uh yeah you're penisless so it's not gonna work for you but it's breathable and like it's just nice why did you choose to wear underwear today well i'm wearing my lucky underwear i thought i might need it what is your lucky underwear you don't need to show me you don't need to show me okay okay so that kind of sounds like a little bit of a kink like you like your dick on denim what is some like weird shit that you like in the bedroom that's maybe a little like unexpected? I'm not going to tell you that.
Yeah, you have to. Oh, okay.
I didn't know that. Yeah, that's what Call Her Daddy is.
You have to tell me. What's something like a little like off the beaten path that you like in the bedroom? Off the beaten path? Mm-hmm.
What? Come on, Alex. This is what the ladies like.
I just met you. But everyone in America knows you.

You just met me.

I know you.

You don't.

You think you know me.

I know you.

You know my story.

No, no.

You know I know my story, but you don't know me.

No, no.

I saw you in the heart rate challenge.

I've seen you in your cowboy outfit.

I know you're getting up to some kinky shit in there.

I mean, you're not lying.

No.

But I don't really want to talk about it. Okay give me like a little hint i like to have sex rob i like sex okay didn't in the beginning of the villa you i think with andrea you looked at her and you were like i'm sorry like i haven't ejaculated in a really long time like i'm having a hard time like that you don't understand I saw a clip of that and I think that really was a part of why I was so emotional going into Love Island is crazy you don't understand it you're on no sleep yeah you have no alone time which is huge for me because that's how I process my emotions I have to be alone okay so I couldn't figure my shit out and also I was horny as fuck well you eventually came we'll talk about that um okay are you enjoying the attention or is it freaking you out it's freaking me out okay what is the biggest turnoff to you bad breath did someone have bad breath in the villa i'm not yeah but i'm not telling you no and did everyone know about it no only you no it wasn't in the villa fuck i can't say it anymore okay moving on all right um how do you think the women obviously like everyone's having feelings about you as you've gotten your phone how do you think the women are feeling about you in America um okay basically I'm a toxic gas lighter but I'm hot enough that it doesn't matter that's like the that's it that's the consensus I've gotten I've seen so many TikToks of like this man is a red flag he's terrible I hate him I can't stop looking at him I love him so much like it's like just weird how does that make you feel I feel like it's not true oh but it's kind of true I'm not I don't feel like I guess I don't feel like I feel like I do

but maybe I do I don't know I that's exactly how I haven't processed it right like I did did I do

everything right absolutely not right I make mistakes 100% do I regret things I did I think

every decision I made I would have eventually made I think I was put in these like small time frames

where my issue was my communication okay and it partly was because I didn't know how I was feeling

Oh, my communication. Okay.
And it partly was because I didn't know how I was feeling. Okay.
To your credit, I will say to you, I feel like you were upfront at all times with everyone. And maybe you weren't like the most articulate in like long form sentences about it, but you did tell people upfront how you were feeling in moments.
Definitely. Even if it upset people, which I feel like there were other people in the villa that, like, would skirt around the truth because they knew it was going to hurt someone.
Really, it's like, just tell people the fucking truth so you don't look like a piece of shit because all of this is on camera. You know what I mean? Exactly.
Okay, I agree with you on the conflicted thing. I think people are like, I'm in love with him, but I feel like he'd break my heart slash maybe he's a little bit of a red flag.
What is it like to date you, Rob? Take us through the journey. Like, what do you think it's like to date you? I don't love people.
Okay. I'm not a people person, but I love my friends.
Hmm. How do I get into this? Okay, let's say we're going to go on a date.

Okay.

Let's just say first date.

Okay.

I would prefer to do something where it's just the two of us and quiet.

We get to know each other.

I'm not a big concert guy.

I don't like going to the club.

I'll go to a bar.

But even then, I'm like, there's too many people here.

Uh-huh.

So what's your ideal first date? I would say like a picnic. A picnic then, I'm like, there's too many people here.
Uh-huh. So what's your ideal first date?

I would say like a picnic.

A picnic.

I like a good picnic.

Okay.

Go to the creek.

Go to the river.

Go to the beach.

Okay.

Bodies of water are typically good for picnics.

Okay.

I find.

Okay.

Okay.

I guess if all of your exes were in this room right now, what would they say about you? I think my last girlfriend would have a lot of good things to say and a lot of bad things to say the one before that same I think same I think I think with my last relationship I mean I don't want to talk too much because like that's her business too but like I think the wheels kind of fell off at the end and it went longer than it should have. And I think that was like really, it came down to like communication and, and I think it was hugely on me.
And it's like one of my biggest regrets is like putting her through the months of like the end of our relationship. Like, yeah.
Cause I did love her and like, I fully believe she loved me too. And it was like, just knowing you did that to someone that you care about what you just like weren't communicating with her how you were feeling i i just was like depressed okay and that's not an excuse yeah when you care about somebody you still have to like figure that out but like i i didn't know how i felt about myself and i just couldn't give her what she needed and i just should have walked away way sooner how long was that relationship it was about two years okay is that your longest on and off like we broke up we got back together it was one of those it wasn't a lot I think we broke up twice okay but like yeah it wasn't like back and forth how long has been your longest relationship that okay so it was communication largely okay we'll get back to that um this was not your first time on love island you were in casa more last season but you didn't make it out of the villa why did you want to go back to the show i just they called me they said what are you doing and i was literally saving a turtle crossing the road i was in a great mood i was on my way to arkansas to go catch a bunch of snakes.
I was wearing these overalls. Like, true story, I was wearing these overalls.
I had just caught a copperhead. I was on cloud nine.
I was having a great day. And someone called me.
They're like, hey, Rob, what are you doing? You single? I said, why, are you interested? And they're like, no, you want to come back to Love Island? I was like, I thought about it, and I was like, you know what? Like, my plan for the summer was just to catch snakes all summer and just like make videos and stuff and i was just like fuck it like i'm not really doing anything might as well i'd love to find a girlfriend didn't work out so you were looking for a girlfriend were you looking for a wife or do you not you think you're there yet i'm looking for a girlfriend that i would marry okay like i do i do i'm like dating to marry at this point okay and that's why I'm not wasting anyone's time like I'm not gonna get into something that I if at any point I don't see that future progressing to that like I'm gonna get out how many times have you been in love I think once okay I told two of my girlfriends that I loved them and I think I meant it with the girl yeah but then I I realized I really meant it with yeah yeah do you think that your ex-girlfriend watched the season of love island no definitely not but she definitely saw stuff okay it's time to relive it let's go through it let's go through love island let's don't look so sad I like this candle if for sure do we have a lighter you don't need one oh I don't know if you can do how. I don't think it will work.
I don't think. I don't think so.
Oh, OK. You're trying to set the vibe so you can like be calm.
Yeah, I'm just. Are you anxious right now? Um, it's just I'm just uncomfortable.
Why? I don't know. I like you, though.
OK okay I like you too do you want to like no take your shoes off no or do you want like a blanket um do you want anything to make you cozier don't be anxious I promise you you're doing great oh thanks you're doing really good we've got a blankie no it's okay I don't know I don't need a blanket no why are you uncomfortable I just I just um I'm not uncomfortable yeah I'm I lied okay I'm fine so you are a liar I'm just kidding um okay but you're just uncomfortable because this is a lot for you it's like new it's very fresh and like I said like it takes me a while to process yeah my emotions and how I feel about everything and right now I think some of the things I'm not like I'm not I haven't processed it so like this is I mean I just got back from Fiji I just left Yeah. And so like right now, it makes some of the things I'm not really like I'm not I haven't processed it.
So like this is I mean, I just got back from Fiji.

I just left.

Yeah.

And so like right now, it makes me nervous to talk about these things because like emotions are kind of high and like I just don't want to like.

OK, well, I think, you know, yeah, I think it's fair that we can say for everyone watching, like to clarify again, like you literally got on a plane.

You got your phone on your way to the airport.

You got on the plane. You landed here and we're doing this.
Like this is not like a month later or even like a week later. Like you have barely had time to like even see all the fan edits on TikTok.
You know what I mean? Yeah. Like this is fresh.
So I think that's good to clarify. And like when we're talking about this, it's almost like you're still on the island.
And I'm sure if I interviewed you a month from now, you're going to have a complete different perspective. That's exactly what I'm thinking.
For sure. That makes me nervous.
We'll do a follow up. Okay.
So we'll compare notes from now to a month from now or a year from now. Where will Rob be in a year from now? We'll talk about it.
Okay. You get into the villa.
You're an original cast member. And the first person that you are coupled up with on day one is Leah.
was your first impression of her I really liked her a lot I felt like I think it's pretty obvious that I'm a bit odd and I can be hard to read and I think it's hard for people to understand me especially my humor she got it right away and I loved that I loved that and I also thought she was really funny and obviously she's gorgeous um but seriously from the first night when i walked in there we just kept like locking eyes yeah and i was like man i really hope that we get coupled up tonight and we didn't and how long were you guys in the villa alone together before andrea came in two days well like yeah technically like it felt like a week but it wasn't because liv came in and stole me first right but that was like I mean like I was with like there was never a moment where I thought I was gonna go with Liv instead of Leah like it kind of got clipped that way but like I was telling Leah the whole time I was like you have nothing to worry about like because I was shocked when Liv picked me like we all were we all were so sure she was gonna pick Kendall yes I agree I was pretty shocked too and then you were like you and Leah were pretty upset like you wanted to make your way back to each other kind of and like we could feel that in the beginning I think we could all feel like you guys really liked each other yeah and you guys shared a brain cell can you fucking explain what that means I don't I don't remember how that went down I just know that it was a thing and that we would give it to each other when we were talking because we were like it was a lot. I mean, like we didn't sleep the first night like we were like, it's insane.
I'm telling you, it's an insane experience that's like built to get your emotions up. Yeah, which is like is good.
That's how it works. It's like putting a relationship in a microwave.
Like, you know, someone for a week, you feel like you know him for a month. Like like it's crazy well then andrea comes in and i remember you're sitting at the fire pit and you're like oh my god that is the most gorgeous woman i've ever seen in my life did i say that actually yeah you said that you were at the fire pit you turn to the guys you're like that's the most gorgeous woman i've ever seen in my life you also told they put in the whole clip clip because it was that i said i hope she You did say.
You did. Yes.
And then, but you also told Leah that you weren't attracted to blondes. I don't like blondes.
So then what was different about. She's not a blonde.
She's a brunette. She has blonde hair, but she's not a blonde.
Okay. Yeah.
She's got brown eyes, dark features. She's not a blonde.
But she's currently a blonde. Yeah, but it doesn't.
Come on. It's not the hair.
No, I was just. i was not what makes you blonde or brunette to me okay i was just curious because obviously leah was like what the fuck he said he wasn't into blondes and then we have live and then we have andrea well also like i don't follow like a rubric of like she has blonde hair done like that's not i don't really when people ask me i say i don't have.
But I do typically like brunettes. Okay.
Like my track record, definitely more into breasts. So when Andrea comes in, what was your first impression like during your first conversations with her? First conversation, it was nice, but it wasn't like romantic.
Like I didn't feel, I enjoyed talking to her. Like we apparently talked for like a really long time.
Yes. And I didn't realize that we were talking that long.
So like it went really well. But it wasn't like, it wasn't like, I was still like pretty all in on Leah at that point.
Okay. You can imagine how that's confusing though.
Because you were spending a lot of time with her. Well, we had, we literally just had that one convo.
That was it? Yeah. Before, before next day, she took me on a date.
But that night we just had one conversation. Yeah.
And so you decided to be upfront with Leah that you were kind of feeling Andrea in that moment, which I do think everyone like appreciated that you were upfront about it. You were like, I'm really still feeling you, Leah, but I do want to get to know her.
And I'd be lying if I didn't. Were you afraid to have that conversation with Leah? Of course, because I didn't want to hurt her.
I still really liked her. Like I was like, that's something I think that people don't understand.
Like there was never a point where I stopped liking Leah. And when, well, I guess we'll get to that, but yeah.
Okay. But as you can imagine from Leah's perspective, like that sucks to be like, I'm going to get to know someone.
And it's like, oh, fuck, I'm not good enough that like you want to go try something different.

Obviously, were you worried that you would lose her?

Yeah, definitely.

It was stressing me out.

Like it was stressing me out because I was I told myself that I was going to get to know every girl and I was going to try to figure out who was going to be my best match, no matter how much I like the girl I was with.

OK, because that's what the love experience. That's what you're supposed to do.
Yep. And, you know, that's what they tell you.
And I'm like, yeah, I'm going to do that. And so I was like, I got it.
And it was like a good enough conversation where I was like, I'm giving this a chance. Like, I'm just going to see where it goes.
The love island experience is odd. Like, it's not normal.
Like, in the real world, when you're single're single you would never do that but are you usually at least talking to like a couple people at once like do you have like a little roster not really i'm not really like i don't like talking to people that much so like it's usually are you bad texter yeah i'm terrible on my phone yeah so how do you communicate with your girlfriends calling facetime usually much better. Are you a FaceTimer or a caller? I'm a caller.
But I will FaceTime. Okay.
Because, yeah. Okay, so in real life, though, you don't usually have, like, a couple women.
Are people going to come forward and be like, what are you talking about? I mean, yeah, like, it's definitely happened. Like, I've definitely been.
But, I mean, when you're single, like, yeah, you're going to get to know multiple people at a time but like it's not like i've never like dated multiple women would you consider yourself a romantic person yeah i'm a romantic art for sure what is the most romantic thing you've ever done for a girl probably took her to catch turtles at 2 a.m do you think that was your dream or her dream i don't know it seemed pretty special to me you went the moon was out and it was like

it was really nice i enjoyed it a lot it's quiet it's kind of scary so she's like wants to be close and it's like i don't know turtles are cute they are cute yeah that's cute i don't know most romantic thing i can't think of that off the top of my head i i used to i like making things a lot okay like what um I made a emerald necklace for my first girlfriend from an emerald that I mined in North Carolina. Wow.
That's romantic. Yeah, I like making stuff.
I'm crafty like that. OK.
Yeah, that's a good answer. OK.
Back to Love Island. OK okay the love triangle was clearly short lived and can you walk me through the infamous conversation with leah where she goes to basically confront you and is like hey what the fuck like i feel like you're spending time with her and then it blows up and the whole thing just it was basically like the last conversation that ended your guys relationship romantically yeah oh wait oh the one where i jumped in the pool yes okay that was kind of like yeah i know the breaking point okay take me to that conversation it wasn't for me at all if it seemed that way that's not how it was really it was like i don't know i haven't seen it so i don't know but i've seen clips obviously like on tiktok and stuff um i feel like it was condensed down to like i don't know how long but like it was a pretty long conversation that slowly got worse and worse and worse and worse and it was kind of like leah was coming at me like saying what she was saying which i thought was like perfectly valid and i kept telling her that i was like i get where you're coming from and like i'm trying to see from your perspective because I get that this is hurting you it would hurt me too if I was in your shoes and then every time I tried to talk she kept like cutting me off and she wouldn't let me speak and and then it started I started getting emotional and then I was like I just need to step away and then I started crying and I was like bro what the fuck are you doing and I think just crying induced like a panic attack like I was just I was I was fully freaking out absolutely freaking out and then I kind of got it together I went back down sat with her and she just started talking again like saying the same things and and just didn't like act like what what set me off was she just didn't ask me like how I felt which I think that triggered a lot of people they were like it matters more what she feels in that moment and 100% I was the one causing this situation yeah and I was taking responsibility for that I was trying to but also like I just needed someone just to check on me in that in that moment and I and for me up until that moment she was that person and I kind of felt like just that she didn't care at all which isn't true yeah it was just she was really upset and she rightfully so I feel like that was like a classic like you both were so hurt and when you were both speaking to each other you both needed the other one to validate the other one and you both were so hurt that like you couldn't do that because you needed the person to be like no you're right and neither of you could give that because you were so upset yeah but why do you think you had a panic attack like what was it that was causing you so much angst it was everything it was it was knowing that i was gonna have to choose between these two girls one that i just met but i was really like want to give a chance and i liked and then leah that i've just been so it's been great the whole time and honestly like i had no idea what i was gonna do yeah i really like i like and i didn't know it's very short windows of time where you have to make decisions and stuff and like i knew leah wasn't going anywhere yeah so i don't know i fucked up like, I think, honestly, had that not happened,

I probably would have stayed with Leah, I think.

Because that was after that happened, I was like,

I was like, well, that was terrible.

And then at that point, like, my head was.

I feel like after that, my gut was telling me, like,

like, you should just go with Andrea.

But my head was still like, you should just go with andrea but my head was still like

you really get on with leah like it's really good but i was hurt and i should i i wish i could have just something i needed to hear in that moment that i wish someone would have came up into me and said was advice that i gave everyone else later down the road was you need to just take yourself out of Love Island for like 10 minutes. And just realize you just met these girls.
It's not that big of a deal. Why are you so emotional? Like really like pick it apart because I didn't know.
I was like why am I crying so much? And I thought that but I didn't take myself out of it completely. And I think if I had done that, I think it would have been a lot different a lot different okay but to your guys credit like it's like you guys are in this like experiment box and like you can't take yourself out of it that's the yeah beauty and the hard part of it like I get it you're like wait if I had gotten to just like go home for five minutes and like talk to my family and hung out I would have come back in and been like listen ladies like let's all get It's not that deep.
Whoever picks who like, we're all still here. Let's just keep hanging.
Like we've known each other for 24 hours. Like, but in the moment, it's so intense because it's also fucking with people's like time while you're there.
And can someone almost get sent home? Like it's so many dynamics that like it is heightened. You made a pretty fucked comment in that conversation about how there was no sexual connection.
I did not say that. Yeah.
I did not say there's no sexual connection. You weren't feeling the sexual connection between you and Leah.
Did I say those words? Yes. That's exactly what I said.
You said, I mean, we can look it up. You said basically, you were not feeling the sexual relationship I yeah it was uh I felt like our we weren't like we didn't know what each other wanted like it was kind of like a weird thing because you guys like you had made out right yeah we made out like a couple times and it was good it wasn't bad I would just like I don't know why that came up but uh but yeah I was just letting her know like I'm in that it there like you said anything you don't say to somebody is wasting their time and like like i felt like i needed to be as transparent with everyone as i could and so what were you feeling because you clearly have a sexual connection with her no or no yeah but it wasn't like i feel like we didn't click sexually does that make sense found her really attractive everything But when we kissed and stuff, it was like, it felt like she was holding back.
She told me, and she said she was. Like, she said, oh, that's because, she said it was because the first night when we had our first kiss, I said, please be gentle.
I was joking before we kissed. And she said, that's why.
She said that from then on, she would hesitate kissing me and stuff. And was why.
And do you think if that I was like, I was like, well, that makes sense. Because that's what it felt like.
It felt like I couldn't tell if she wanted to kiss me whenever we like make out. And I'm like, does she want to stop? Like, I couldn't tell.
It was really weird. And I'm glad I told her because, well, I don't think we made out again after that.
But but I told her that and she was like, oh, yeah, back um because you said that the first time we kissed I was like that was a joke because I think obviously like that sucked to see because I on her side just like as a girl you're like fuck like there's no rebuttal yeah it's like saying you have no chemistry with someone yeah but am I wrong for like telling her that no no yeah and I think she understandably was so upset by that comment and then she slept outside that night because i think she went to serena after that was like i literally feel like what the fuck like i feel like gross like i'm like oh my god am i not sexually attractive to him but that's not what you were saying not at all and i told her that okay you gotta understand these conversations they're like max five minutes long yeah that was at least an hour yeah at the very least there's probably more of us talking up there in that moment when I was watching and you can clarify it felt also like you were saying that and I could be wrong but I feel like the viewers kind of felt this way and you when you shared that with her you use that an example of like why you basically were gonna maybe like try and make things work with andrea i mean maybe but no like it was more of just telling her everything about us like on the table so if that did happen like she understands where i'm at like i didn't want i didn't want to blindside anyone and i feel like i ended up blindsiding her because i didn't get the chance to talk to her before the recoupling thing that was like that's one of my biggest regrets is I should have insisted because I wasn't able to get to her and I should have been like been like no we're not I need to talk to Leah before this like because I knew it was going to happen but yeah can you explain that you weren't able to get to her like do they they physically put you in different rooms and you can't see people oh are you not allowed to talk about it yeah really i

feel like everyone knows that okay so i'm gonna it's yeah okay i'll just assume that you guys are

like it separated i wasn't able to talk to her that's all i can say like i didn't get the i

didn't get the chance okay i didn't get the chance to talk to her and can we just like finish the

conversation on how everyone thought that you were potentially crying to manipulate the situation

I think a lot of people looked at the situation like, wow, he's in a position of power. He's getting to pick between these two women.
And he's crying. And he's crying.
Like fucking Leah should be crying if anyone's crying. But she didn't, obviously.
And so people were struggling to know if the tears were genuine or if they were like a manipulation tactic to like make it look kind of like oh I'm this sucks for me too and like kind of get you out unscathed what do you say to that that's completely not true I mean you can ask anyone that I would never never want to cry like no definitely not that was completely genuine okay unfortunately I wish it didn't happen at all The pool Was there nowhere else to go?

So no definitely not that was completely genuine okay unfortunately um i wish it didn't happen at all the pool was there nowhere else to go so this is one of those things i should so in my head i wasn't planning on going to the pool but i saw it i walked down the stairs i saw it i was like oh i had noticed earlier that day you could go up under the deck and there's no cameras there's no mics i just wanted to be alone i was like fuck this shit and i was like all right i'm going in there and so i took my clothes off i jumped in i went in there and then i got in there and i was like they probably think i'm killing myself or something i was gonna say i was like this is a terrible idea this was an awful idea so then i got out and then i just walked out and that's what i should have done i should have walked out because i needed to be alone that's what i needed but i knew they were gonna stop me i knew if i walked out they were gonna like stop me whatever but i I knew there I get in the pool like what are they going to do fish me out like but yeah it was it was yeah hindsight not the best choice what do you think your biggest flaw is when it comes to dating probably my biggest flaw it's hard to pick one oh okay let's list a couple we're here I think I think I definitely learned from this that I have an issue with letting people in and letting my walls down. I think I also struggle with communication.
I struggle with, I think I procrastinate my feelings. I think I'm feeling them, but I don't process them in my brain until I have to.
And that is probably one of the biggest things. That's what I think happened with the Leah and Andrea situation where I think if I had just like, but then again, I was never alone and I have to be alone to do that kind of thing.

And I think if I was able to do that, it could have been so much better.

I could have communicated Leah a lot better because something about it is like you can

recouple, but it doesn't mean it's over.

And I still had those feelings for Leah.

And I think if I could have talked to her about it, I don't know what happened, but

like it would have been different.

Why do you think you have such a hard time with letting people in?

Probably just the way I grew up.

Okay.

Probably just like.

Share.

Kind of... I don't know what happened but like it would have been different why do you think you have such a hard time with letting people in probably just the way I grew up okay I was just like share kind of well like I'm a family I'm one of four and I was just always more the quiet one kept to myself didn't really I was like the middle child there's four of us but I was like you know what I mean like I just was like kind of independent um and I think a lot of times i just felt like people didn't care so like i just didn't ever and i still feel like that i feel like people don't care because they don't like realistically most people don't give a shit like they'll ask you but they don't really care so i just don't waste my time in telling people like usually i just kind of like keep on going until i i feel like it's something that matters i guess yeah you know that's why i think it's only in one-on-one conversations that I can actually let my walls down and talk.
Because I think I gave every girl a chance and I tried my best. But looking back, I was like, damn.
Especially after the Andre and Leah thing, it just tightened me up even more. Because I hurt them and I knew that and it was my fault.
I fucked up. I fucked up.
And I just it was hard for me to keep going after that. I think people felt that you kind of like shut off after all that happened.
Do you are your parents still together? They got divorced like two years ago. Oh, I'm sorry.
OK. What is your relationship like with your mom? It's really good.
And your dad? It's good. OK, it's good.
Yeah. My mom mom is a lot like me she's like very witty and funny um she's hilarious you would love her uh and then my dad is he really artistic and he's very handsome and that's like his thing he's really handsome yeah and that's his thing you should yeah yeah he is but well no and being an artist he's an kind of got like a little bit of.
I did. I got both.
I got both of those things. So that's good.
I got some of their best traits and I got both of their worst traits. What are their worst traits? My mom is really emotional and sometimes says like, says and like thinks things emotionally sometimes, which I do, which I've really worked on, like, I think.
And then, yeah, I got some stuff for stuff from my dad too you're like I don't want to say what I got from my dad moving on that's fine I I respect it um is there a theme I know you kind of talk about communication but I want to know a little bit more like is there a theme of why every relationship you've had has ended yeah I think I think there is I don't this is really going to be sad but it's just i don't think that i can i've i've been able to let someone all the way in and what do you feel when you like start like someone starts to get i feel like i reach a point and they keep going and i can't why do you think that is i don't know try i didn't know this was gonna be that deep also i need to turn. Turn it off.
You're not allowed to look at your phone when I ask you a deep question.

Go ahead.

Why do I think that is?

I think I have... Gosh, this is really...

I thought this would be more fun.

I don't know.

It'll get fun.

I think I...

I think I need...

therapy. To be honest.
need therapy.

To be honest, more therapy.

Yeah.

I think that's a good answer, right?

Yeah, I think I don't love me.

And I really don't give a shit what people say about me because mostly the time I'm saying it to myself already.

Like when I got out, I saw all the horrible things people were saying about me.

And I was like, huh, beat you to the punch.

Like I've been saying that shit this whole time.

So I think I need to get over that before I can like really.

And I've been saying that shit this whole time so I think I need to get over that before I can like really and I'm a lot better I'm way better than I used to be I used to be like really bad like I'm my number one I'm just hard on myself and I think that comes with being an artist I consider myself an artist I love creating things I love making things and I think that's just part of the mentality is like you can always be better.

Like it's never perfect, which is not a good mentality to have.

Like you can't be perfect.

It's literally impossible.

But I know I'm very far from perfect and I'm starting to accept it more and more.

And I think like, I don't know, I've like hurt people in the past.

Like I said with my last girlfriend, like I fucking hurt her.

And it still tears me up. Like and it's completely completely my fault there's no one to blame but me there's no good excuse for it and it's just like fuck I just carry it around I yeah I appreciate though and I think a lot of people watching this will appreciate Rob that you're like you do take accountability in what you're you're saying you're like I know I fucked up I know I'm the one that fucked up I I want to like figure out my shit there's so many people one of your friends that we saw this season that like doesn't take accountability and is like acting like no I didn't do that like what are you talking about I didn't do that like you're like no I did that and I fucked up and I don't know why the fuck I did that like I think that's progress I think that's like the first step to actually like understanding why the fuck you make certain decisions yeah right I I try to be a good person I really do do I think I'm a good person yeah actually yeah I do think I'm a good person I I I think of others often and I, but I'm not perfect and I mess up and I want to be better, I guess is what I'm saying.
Like, I've never been in a point in my life where I'm like, this is as good as it gets. I'm like this, but no, I always want to keep getting better.
And I think I have. Do you think that this process made you realize more that you want to keep working on yourself? 100% I mean like i was working on myself before it but like that that's one of the valuable things i got from this is i was able to look at myself in conflict like how do i react in like when i'm angry how do i act when i'm really hurt like i can literally go and watch it like yeah um and that's like super valuable it really is because you can see and that's something that leah got from this too because leah was i mean she said some awful things about me and claimed to never have said them when she told talk to me like what that she said that was a little bitch and that i gave her the ick because of it and like just like some crazy shit that i've i've seen i mean i've seen some clips, but she never admitted to that once until movie night.
Like she said she didn't say that. And then at one point she was like, I may have said some things.
And I was like, but I fully, fully believe Leah didn't. She didn't.
Like I think she says things when she gets emotional and then it just never happened. Like she doesn't actually feel it.
She didn't say it. I think that kind of happens with her.
At least, I don't know, in that regard. I feel like your thing this season was like you run when things get a little hard.
Like you physically run under the pool. You would like walk away from things.
You would go to Soul Ties by yourself and like stand there. And like I think you – do you do that in your real life? Like do you kind of like remove yourself when things are getting a little complicated or heightened I would say yeah at times but also I would say I have to do that sometimes because like I said I I'm serious if you were just sitting in a room with me I wouldn't be able to think about my feelings it's really weird I I really need to be alone to process how I'm feeling.
And journaling helps a lot. And I couldn't do either of those things.

Oh, you couldn't journal?

You can't.

No, because Beach Hut is your journal.

Sorry, I'm not supposed to talk about that.

Oh, OK.

It's like the cutaway.

Right.

Oh, it's like your confessional is your journal. Yeah, confessional is your journal.

Right.

But staring into a camera is a little.

Also, like the amount of things I've written in my journal that I don't mean.

You just say it to get it out.

And then I'm like, OK, I don't feel that way.

Move on.

Like, you know what I'm saying?

Like, that's just how I process.

So you then couple up with Andrea.

And you were together for four days.

Yep.

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admit some fault in it as well but I feel like it was mostly my fault but it just didn't work and I thought it was like okay our communication styles whatever I was like I was like okay well I made the right choice like things with on great joy are really great and it was it was an amazing four days we had like I was like smitten like I really was like I was having a great time and you can tell you seemed it you can tell um i just thought she was like so much like just good like i don't

know was like smitten. Like I really was like, I was having a great time and you can tell.
You seemed it. You can tell.
Um, I just thought she was like so much, like just good. Like, I don't know.
I like talking to her and I love the way she talked about her family and it just felt really romantic. Like it just felt romantic.
This is like the best way I could put it. I felt romantic when I was with her.
In the moment of those four days. And I want to clarify, because I feel like a lot of people are like, you fucking knew each other for four days.
Like four days seems like what in Love Island time? That's like a month, like a week, a week is like a month. It seriously is like it feels like you've known them forever because literally you're like usually you date a girl.
You may go on a date. You'll see her maybe next week or in a couple of days.
And you're like you're like you'll text the whole time whatever but like there you are with them at any opportunity you can and you have to talk about how you feel about everything you're immediately talking about how many kids you want and then if so if you like them that progresses really really fast that's a good point too like women think about this if you're listening like you get upset after a fourth date if a guy ghosts you and you're because you're like well we went on our fourth date fourth date fourth day for you for almost 24 hours of basically hanging out sleeping together oh it's like our 20th day yeah yeah okay so it got super emotional and then obviously when elimination came around the girls decided to send andrea home yeah Yeah. And the world was fucking shocked.
Like people online were like, this is the craziest episode that we've ever seen in Love Island history. Like what the fuck? Yeah.
And obviously you were shocked. What do you remember feeling when you heard her name called? At first I was just mad.
I was like, this makes no sense. This makes no sense.
We had the strongest connection of most of the people in the villa at the time, let alone who was up for elimination. And I was like, I was just baffled.
I was baffled. I was like, how does this make sense? And then I was like, fuck it, I'm leaving.
Yeah, so you immediately stood up and you were like, now you're sending three home. Well, it wasn't immediate.
That's longer. Okay, but it was edited.
We're sitting there. We're talking.
There's a back and forth between the girls and the guys. Okay.
Blah, blah, blah. And then finally, I'm sitting there and I'm like, all right, yeah, nah.
And Aaron's like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. And I got up and I was like, yeah, I so you say you're leaving yeah and then you don't leave yeah i understand you're like explain your reasoning to maybe people that forget why you didn't leave all right once again that was a three-hour process of me trying like wanting to leave and like having conversations with people and they're like no you shouldn't like so it wasn't 30 minutes no okay no she she did have 30 minutes back and i had that conversation with her but after she left i was like no fucking no like i had a conversation and they were like no you should say blah blah like it's so dumb you've only known her for four days blah blah and i'm like okay fair enough but then right after that i was like no i'm leaving like i'm like no like i'm i'm actually leaving and i just had a, blah, blah.
And they convinced me to stay the night. And then the next day I calmed down and I was like, okay, yeah.
Like I came here to find the best connection. It was going amazing with her.
And I think like, you know, like the honeymoon stage of a relationship. We were at that.
We were at that point where I was like, this girl could do no wrong. I was just like, so keen.
Like I was just happy. Gone.
And I was like this girl could do no wrong I was just like so keen like I was just happy gone and I was like fuck like I don't know like it was just a bad time like literally the next day I could have been like oh like I don't know about this you don't know but but I I was like who knows who else might come in here like you know because it was still early days yeah and And so I was I mean yeah it does I don't want to get out of here get with her it doesn't work out which statistically very high probability that we would not work out um and then I'm like damn what could have been do you regret the way that you responded though in that moment because you obviously got Andrea's hopes up yeah 100 100% I regret it I wish i wouldn't have said it but in that moment that's what i was doing like i was set on leaving like i and for a while after that i was set on leaving even the next day but yeah of course you don't see any of that had she not got sent home do you think that you guys would have gone to the finale together i don't know i don't i don't know i don't know if it would have worked out i really don't yeah it was really really great but like it was still early days yeah like we had a lot to learn about each other and you know have you seen the tiktok that's trending that like you sat up there and you thought like you said oh you're sending three home now you're fucking in your overall what now bitch yeah i've seen that okay it's kind of iconic no yeah no leah's hilarious like i i love like leah's great she's amazing yeah so after the elimination of andrea she's gone and leah basically told you that she took a back seat in that decision of the process of sending yeah andrea home and this caused so much fucking drama between you and leah You called her a liar. It caused drama between Leah and all the women.
Now looking back, what do you actually believe happened? I think it was a lot of miscommunication from the girls to me, from me to Leah. And so first of all, I did not think Leah was capable of lying to me.
I really thought that we had, I thought we had something special. And I did not think she was lying to me at all.
Until that conversation that she had with me, it was up on the upstairs thing. She told me, and once again, I haven't watched it.
I don't remember exactly what she said. But she basically said she didn't talk shit about me and Andrea.
She didn't talk shit about me or shit like that. And I knew that wasn't true.
And I was like, damn. And then she said but I she's basically said like she didn't talk shit about me and Andrea she didn't talk shit about me or like shit like that and I knew that wasn't true and I was like damn and then she said I took a backseat in the the decision and I was like interesting and the point of that conversation was not about that at all for me it was more about is this girl lying to me because like I still had feelings for her and like I was thinking at this point I was like okay maybe I should give this another shot that's what the point you remember when I pulled Liv in yeah I was not trying to like you can't even remember Kaylor's name Kaylor sorry I can't remember Kaylor's name Kaylor I love you so much you're like a sister to me no no you're fine you're fine I'm interested to talk to you about all that but yeah okay okay um yeah when I pulled them the only reason I did that is because I didn't want to like I knew Leah was gonna get upset and I just didn't want to have the conversation at all if they were like oh no she did I would have been like okay cool and i would have dropped it the only reason I did that is because I didn't want to like, I knew Leah was going to get upset.
And I just didn't want to have the conversation at all. If they were like, oh, no, she did.
I would have been like, okay, cool. And I would have dropped it.
The only reason I pulled them is because I just wanted all the facts. I wanted to know the truth before I went into it.
Also, if she had been lying to me, I knew she was going to lie. And she did kind of deny everything when we started the conversation.
And I was like, oh, okay. And then I just kind of felt lied to.
And then they just kept yelling at each other.

And I was like, I don't even want to be a part of this anymore.

That's not what I wanted at all.

Also, people were saying that we teamed up on her.

I talked to Leah by myself and she called Liv over.

I think she kind of thought Liv was going to be on her side and she just wasn't at all.

And then it was like bad.

I hated that moment because it was just like Leah was just in between two people that disagreed with her and it was just it wasn't fair for her at all. No, I agree.
I think like understandably Leah, when she called live over, thought that live was like, oh, yeah, we got your back, girl. And then live was like, no, I'm going to be real.
This is how I feel about it. What happened? And then in that moment, it should have been like, OK, I didn't know that.
So live, you and leah need to have a conversation alone let's you and i finish our conversation because i agree it became ganging up but then it was also tough because it's like yeah but you asked live and live's telling yeah exactly she asked for that yeah and and she was trying to team up on me yeah but i wanted the conversation to be really calm like i was trying to be really really calm yeah and then she just kept like saying these things and I was like this is not true and that's when I like lost my shit and I was like can you just wake the fuck up like we like just be real with me it's interesting because this isn't even a question for you it's a question for production and I think everyone on the internet is feeling it it's like why will they not just air the clip just aired the clip of the girls in the huddle. And they never did.
They never did. Oh, I thought I would get to see it.
No, we've never seen it. No one ever aired it.
And I think a lot of people have a conspiracy that like Leah was getting a bad edit. So maybe it completely clears her name and they don't want to put it up.
Or like, I don't know what the fuck happened in that huddle. But like, they never aired it.
Based on what have told me i don't think it does that i don't think it clears your name really no but that's once again he said she said which i don't want to talk about that yeah in a negative way towards anybody because i don't like talking bad about people at all no but i get it like you're in the middle of this drama and everyone it's like this one thing everyone's like what the fuck was the decision and understandably everyoneably, everyone's going to like say their piece. But I just wish show us the fucking footage.
Just show us the footage. Yeah.
Just play. And I thought we were going to get that on movie night and we didn't.
We're like, just play clear, clear everyone's names. Get the truth.
I don't know. I would have loved to see that as well.
I heard. I heard like I heard what was said.
You heard what was said. Yeah.

Did they ever hear that?

No.

I was told like specifically what she was saying.

Why don't you share it with the class?

I don't want to because I don't know if it's true.

Who told you?

I don't want to say that either.

Okay.

But you got.

It's just drama.

You got specific.

To me, that's drama.

I like to know facts.

And if I know facts, I will call you out on it.

And I will like be like, hey, let's talk about this.

But I'm not going to like start something over something I don't know is true or not. Like that's ridiculous to me.
No, that whole thing just became so much bigger than it was meant to be. And it became about the decision that I wasn't.
I was just trying to like talk about like how honest she had been with me. Yeah.
And I feel like the way she reacted made me feel like she wasn't being honest at all. Well, also, at the end of the day, no matter what Leah said in that circle, there were three, what, three or four girls making that decision.
No, 100% it wasn't all on her. And I didn't care about that.
Yeah, that wasn't what you were asking. She made the decision.
I just wanted to know if she was being honest about taking a backseat. I think that's what it became about.
It was never about that. Even if she was full, like, we need to get andre out of here i wouldn't have been mad at her like i would have just liked to know if that was the truth i just wanted honesty okay that's all i wanted i wanted to know that i could trust her and you don't feel like you got that no i didn't i felt like i couldn't trust her at that time i was like and like now like looking back i don't know because i think it was really agree.
By everyone. Yeah.
But myself included. I think that I didn't remember things right from our first conversation.
But like I think everybody involved in that had a different narrative. And then there was the truth.
And none of us were on it. I don't think.
I know. Play the fucking clip, Peacock.
But no one knows. They should air that as like a bonus episode.
And it's like a two second clip. Or it'd be like $2.99.
Right, right. They'd make so much money.

Like an OnlyFans link for that clip.

I would fucking pay for it.

I know.

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In the real world, do you have an easy time trusting partners? When I first start something with someone, I fully trust them. That's like, I'm not going to date you if I don't.
And that's why I was like, OK, well, I guess I'm not going to date Leah. Have you ever gone through someone's phone? Yeah, once.
Well, like my first. So my my first college girlfriend that was the most toxic relationship i've ever been in okay on both sides i was toxic she was toxic we could not stay away from each other to save our lives broke up a million times got together back together a million times of course craziest things also we're drinking all the time because it's college so the like that's the most toxic relationship I've ever been in.
It was crazy. But yeah, I went through her phone for sure.
She went through my phone too. I would wake up and she'd have my phone.
She'd be like, you motherfucker. I have the craziest stories between us.
Did you find anything incriminating? Yes. So have you been cheated on? I mean, we weren't together't together at the time right it was the toxic college thing where it's like yeah yeah yeah do you want to share a funny crazy story with us no no no why because she's she's a good girl and i wish the best and we both grew up you know people can change and i don't want people to be like you did this you know i'm saying people will know who she is yeah definitely oh i didn't know that everyone from my own down will know she is oh and then it will come out yeah i like wish her the best i think she's about to get married like oh my god yeah definitely don't share the story congrats congrats so proud of you out of that toxic shit with rob yeah on to yeah healthier things no i think a lot of my ex-girlfriends are about to get married i like prepare them i'm like i'm like the stepping stone how does that make you feel sad no wrong sad you're gonna find your person maybe are you the jealous type yeah yeah 100 okay 100 like how jealous jealous i'm like more of like a protective jealous but like when i'm dating a girl like i like i'll kind of make it now and like i'll put myself in between her and whatever the situation is um yeah that's kind of kind of like that okay um can we talk about aaron your boy your boy aaron throughout this season online sometimes people would joke that like you guys were the strongest couple in the i've seen a lot of that a lot of that well how would you describe your friendship i think like at first i was like i'm not so sure about this guy he's like the kind of opposite of me in the way that he's like really loud and like loves to like he's just silly and like goofy and uh and i'm like that too but like only when i'm like really comfortable with people um but then like i got to know him and like he felt like family like he he's like really like he's really sweet and he really like cares about everyone like he really did like like he would get sad when anyone was sad like specifically you though yeah yeah well like we we like became really really good friends like like he seriously felt like my brother okay during casa more now we like we really need you to give us some information okay to clarify this we don't have to speak about this again we watched aaron basically yeah cheat on kayler with daniella yeah okay well they were open okay they were open but it was like pretty fucking slimy i'm not gonna lie when i saw the clips i was shocked okay i was shocked and i was shocked the day that i saw him kissing her on the beanbag i was shocked okay when it was time to return to the villa you brought his girl daniella yeah back in with you right and he returned as single so that he could present as loyal basically to kaylor and he's like i want you

what the fuck happened do not lie to me tell me what happened well i wasn't really getting on with any like i got to know the girls they were great girls um sydney so funny like i thought they were really great girls but i didn't see like long-term relationship type things with most of um and daniela had been talking with aaron most of the time um and we have like similar type as far as personality uh and the first conversation i had with her i really liked and he was telling me the whole time that i should talk to her and i was like i was like what and he was like yeah like you like i think you guys really get along and i'm like but because he i think he knew he wasn't gonna take her back okay at that point he was like you should you should at least talk to her and see even though he loved her he loved her he told her that he loved her twice daniella yes you have seen this he said that he loved her uh-huh i haven't seen that okay did they show that at movie night no that's what's been so crazy online is everyone's like why the fuck was that not played at movie night i don't know if kayler even knows that yet she probably does now that she's out definitely does yeah i didn't know that oh it was like the biggest thing on the internet really i haven't even seen it on like anything i haven't seen it or anything yeah oh well what was the question anyways so how the fuck did you come back to the villa with daniella well yeah so i literally didn't get a chance to talk to her that much at all um and then i did i talked to her and i was like i was like i liked her value like where her values were and i liked like once again like she's very family oriented like me and she loves animals she wanted to be a vet i was like okay i could see something here so i was like my and like what am i gonna do go back single to no one to live you did say you liked her right before you i thought i i was actually really close to doing that exact thing i was really close to going back single and just being like live what's up you want to hang out yeah i was i was really close to doing that okay i seriously thought about it but i was like like our like live and i both knew like we get on and like we get each other's humor and like i find her really attractive but like it was like it's more of a friendship for sure like so did aaron ask you to bring daniella back no hell no hell no he didn't want me to bring her oh actually he did thank you he did but then after that right like immediately after that he was like terrible idea don't bring her back right okay so he did so he did articulate that's true i forgot about that thank you can you please tell us about the conversation oh fuck i don't really remember that well but he was like he he like called he pulled me for a chat and he was like oh yeah she took it really really well the way that when he said that he was done like he wasn't gonna take her back whatever she took it he said like she took it with like such grace and like she was so kind and she just said really nice things about him and stuff and he was like oh dang like that was really cool um he's like you're gonna like her a lot you should hang out with her but like yeah and he was like you should take her back yeah yeah i forgot about i forgot i totally but it's because the reason i forgot about it is because maybe 10 minutes after that conversation he was like please forget everything i just said that's an awful idea i'm going back to kayler and i really like kayla like this just don't bring her back at all unless you really want to and i was like okay and just for like anyone who for some reason is watching this and never watched love island basically the point is aaron was coupled up with kayler goes into a new house with all new women is making out with this new girl and then basically asks rob to bring that girl back into the villa on his accord so that like well he did not say he said only if you see something with her like if you want to bring her back do it but like it was like yeah it was like i guess implied like that he thinks that she's cool but i don't but i'm telling you literally 10 minutes after that he was like freaking out everything i said so wrong i don't know what the hell i was thinking yeah i'm a dumbass do not do that unless you really want to and then i was like i got to know her and i was like i was like there's enough there that i want to see where it goes yeah we didn't have a lot of time did you feel like a dick doing that to kayler um yeah i did because i care about kayler she's like a sister to me. But I also thought about it like, okay, well, at least like she's going to know like, and I was wrong.
But at least she's going to know that he's being honest because she'll tell him everything. And then she didn't.
I've seen that as well. It's fun.
Yeah, I know. I know.
But that was like my silver lining. I was like, okay, yeah, like this is going to be weird.
And it sucks because like like aaron's my best friend and kaylor is his girl and like i want to be able to hang out with them all together but honestly like kaylor really took it with grace like and and she got along with daniela enough that like we could all kind of hang out but like i don't know things yeah yeah aaron is kind of in the doghouse on the internet i know he's kind of the villain of the season i know well yeah yeah and i and i think he's gonna be okay because i think what i've just told him over and over again is you fucked up you got to take accountability and as long as you keep doing that i think it's gonna be okay because i promise you this. He loves Kayla.
He really does.

Wow.

He cares about her so much.

And it was killing him even in Casa.

Like he was like, I remember one day specifically, it was after he kissed her.

He sat in the room for like hours and just stared and was like, what the fuck have I done?

Blah, blah, blah.

And he really cares about her a lot. He really yeah but he gets really emotional for you there are so many clips of like his emotions towards you versus everyone else even Kaler like he was sobbing when he thought you were gonna leave it's kind of cute so for the rest of your time in the villa you obviously kind of like didn't find that connection that was as strong as andrea or leah and i don't know if

you've seen all the fan edits you have seen all the fan edits of you and leah i've seen a ton i

mean how could i not they're fucking everywhere the entire world like wanted you guys to end up

together would you ever try to make it work in the real world um i think after everything i think

we will be amazing friends and i think i'd rather just focus on that for now like like

Let's go. think after everything i think we will be amazing friends and i think i'd rather just focus on that for now like like love being around her she's an amazing person she's so fucking funny like i'm like laughing the whole time i'm with her usually um but like i mean i think i also think miguel is a really great guy i love miguel and we're actually really similar, which I didn't see coming at all.

Like some of the way we think.

But yeah, I think I don't know what's happened, obviously.

But I mean, no, I mean, I'm going to respect them and her.

And like, I just don't think that that's like necessary at all.

I think that we're great friends and that's like a great spot to be.

And I'm happy with it. Like I'm content in that that like i would be content being friends with her okay i don't think people like that answer i mean but that's okay that's no that's the honest truth that's the honest truth yeah like i'm okay with being friends and i want to be friends why do you think america is rooting for you and leah even though she has something good with miguel probably all the edits probably all the fucking edits you guys have made of us looking at each other and like i mean and we care it's like it's not built on nothing like we care for each other for sure i like i feel that she cares for me and i care for her um but yeah after everything like i just i think it would be really really hard i mean it's kind of like the Aaron Kaler situation.
Like that's going to be such an uphill battle for them to get through. And I think like the best thing for us is just to like move on and be friends.
Like seriously, I think that's just the best thing. Was it as epic in the villa, the like feelings that you guys had as compared to like these fan edits? because you guys had this like it feels like this like unsaid like insane attraction and it was this whole whirlwind and like did it feel that way most of the time now what i love Most of the time, no.
There was definitely some moments where I was like, damn. Like, I cannot lie.
There was definitely some moments where I was like, damn. But most of the time, like a lot, like I've seen a lot of them.
I'm like, I don't even think she was looking at me in that. Like, some of them I'm like, okay.
But yeah, like other times I'm like, yeah, I mean, that was a nice moment for us. Right.
But the edits have made it really like. It's definitely like hype, hyped up a lot.
Yeah, for sure. For sure.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay.
And I think she would say the same thing. How do you think Leah feels about you now? Obviously, we saw your like grand final moment with her where you run up.
So funny. Didn't feel like that at all.
Like really? I mean, in the moment it did, but like I literally just wanted to say bye and like let her know that I cared about her. I thought she was great.
And I'm glad that we got to get back to that point. That's all I wanted to say.
But then it was like, I don't know. It was so much more emotional than I thought it was going to be.
Like in my head, I was like, this is not a big deal at all. I'm just going to let her know these things.
And then I let her then i let her know and then i was like oh that was kind of crazy like a little bit not it wasn't that crazy but like it seems a lot crazier on tv i think so producers did not make you do that no they didn't make me do that because everyone was like oh my god that felt too perfect that it was like produced no no like other than like the lines they wrote me no i'm playing no that was and it's like music goes into it which like yeah exactly which heightens it up while you're fucking saying exactly exactly but you both did you say like love you which i feel like a not an i love you but a love you is pretty friend zoning yeah because it's like once you say love you to someone it's like oh wow because if you were really going to be in a romantic situation you'd probably like save those words yeah yeah yeah if you say that it's like i love you as a friend yeah for sure but you just said you guys are friends um okay i'm curious andrea she said after she left that she would love to rekindle things with you this probably is a while ago i know she's been like posting a lot would you want to give your guys relationship a shot in the real world or no i don't yeah i don't uh i mean i've been talking to her a little bit but it's not like i think i think once again like it's probably better if we just kind of like keep our distance for now like kind of like it's a lot has happened and she's been like posting a lot a lot yeah which is like i'd be lying if i was like i was kind of like oh it's a lot of things to post about which sounds really bad but like i do think she's a great girl and i think she got it like i think the reason she did that is like she was she went in there and did what she was supposed to do she did nothing wrong literally did nothing wrong and she was always kind like she when she left i don't know if i haven't seen it but i don't know when she left she was in a position where she could have said a lot of mean things and been like y'all are some bitches for doing this blah blah didn't not say a word all she said was like how much she cared about me and then left like i thought that was like so good and like i thought she handled herself so well the whole time which is why i was kind of surprised like she was like posting a she cared about me and then left. Like, I thought that was like so good.
And like, I thought she handled herself so well the whole time, which is why I was kind of surprised. Like she was like posting a lot of stuff.
But like, I guess she was, she got like the most hate from anyone from the show. So did you reach out or did she reach out when you got your phone? I texted her.
I texted her. I just said, hey, how are you? Like, and then I called her.
Well, she, yeah, we called, we FaceTimed for a little bit. Didn't talk about like anything like crazy.
Just like wanting to see how she was doing. Because at this point, I hadn't looked at really anything online.
And I was just like, how are you doing? Like everything. You know, I was thinking about you a lot.
Like blah, blah, blah. Told her my – because I knew once she left, she didn't know what happened.
And I think it was made to look like she left. I was like, I'm leaving.
I didn't didn't give a fuck that was not the case yeah i was like you can ask as any person in there i was like i was so fucked like for that week after that like it was tough but like i did i did get better and i got over it like towards the end so like and i told i let her know like all that and i was just like because i felt guilty i felt really guilty about it and and at times i I was like, and I told, I let her know like all that. And I was just like, cause I felt guilty.
I felt really guilty about it.

And I, and at times I was like, I should have just left.

Like, I'm such a bitch.

Like, I don't know.

I mean, like I said, I tear myself up.

Like, but rightfully so.

Like I, it was such a lose-lose situation at that point.

Like, cause I got emotional and said that, but yeah, I just kind of let her know like

how it went, how I was feeling and everything.

And she told me like a little bit about what was going on with her. And then that was it.
And then we've texted a little bit. But I did start to see like all the stuff like she was doing.
I was like, that's something that I did not see coming from her. She just seemed very no drama.
Like in the villa, so no drama. Like she said that like, yeah.
And I just was really kind of set back by that when I saw that I was like oh interesting it is interesting because I feel like that must be weird for you of like everyone was sort of certain way in the villa and now that everyone's going to be done and it's coming out and everyone you're going to see everyone like I wonder if you're going to feel the same type of way have you thought about that like once you see them in the real world like will you feel the same type of way about them as you did with like these kind of blinders on in the villa yeah it is like it's like when you're in the villa it's like tunnel vision and you get outside the tube's gone you know it's like you're just a girl yeah yeah still be like down to hang with her right or is she like not the vibe because it's yeah but it's not like the reason i'm having those thoughts it has nothing to do with me being out it has to do with me seeing what she's been doing while i was out like i was like um interesting and but i will just like last thing on it like i will give her like credit like i do get why she would be doing that if like people were coming at her but it was a lot okay i'm gonna say the names of women that you connected with on like the um season and i

want you to describe your relationship with them in one word you have no paper sorry one word yep or if you want to describe your relationship no one word that's great you got this this is a rob thing yeah that's why i said one word one word it's good okay ready i guess i mean think do i know that okay okay cassidy Cassidy Shy Sex No I had sex with Cassie Cassie But Cassidy Did you Didn't have sex with her You couldn't hold out anymore It had been a really really really long time And I was It was And like After I was like Fuck Rob You made it this whole time You didn't have sex on TV Your Your poor mother. You're like, everyone's going to be like, he never cared about any of those bitches.
He's just going to fuck, you know? And I was like, and then I was like, you know what? Like I'm an adult. She's an adult.
It felt right in the moment. Like it happened.
Like it's, and I don't regret it. It's like, it just happened.
Did you do it in the bed when everyone was in the room? Yes. Rob.
That's a yes. I didn't say shit say shit no you did because this is a podcast that's bad journalism no people yeah you just gave me a yes in your eyes i didn't say shit because if you if it wasn't you'd say no i'm about to onion back up right no no we're not onioning we are so fucking peeled down you're doing so great you really have you're good at this i will give you credit thank you you're pretty good thank you you're a hard one to crack like i will say everyone at home that's like why don't you

ask in this i'm trying but we have gotten progress okay so you did it in the room did you come like just on the sheets did housekeeping have to clean that up the next morning Robert

you used my full name

that's some tea

you've said nothing that is tea i've said no words for what you're saying okay did your did any of the people on the island know it happened until she said no one knew that was the funniest part i don't know how many conversations they put in but miguel like i think it was literally the next day he was like he was like yeah bro i just don't

think that i could have sex in here like it's just not something i'm gonna do and i'm like dude me

either bro and cassie was sitting right next to me i was like i was like dude me either like

especially like in the room with everyone could never do that he's like he's like yeah bro like

i mean honestly if someone did i would rate it but like i it's just something i wouldn't do

and I was like I was like

yeah bro

couldn't be me

and I looked at Cassie

and she was like

Thank you. like he's like yeah bro like i mean honestly if someone did i would rate it but like i it's just something i wouldn't do and i was like i was like yeah bro couldn't be me and i looked at cast and she was like you're like i feel light as a feather right now god you had been waiting for that no i wouldn't say i've been waiting for it not sex i mean to like oh i was like release build up okay daniela one word um i'm trying to...
You can use a couple words.

Affectionate.

Live.

Strong.

Andrea.

Understanding.

Leah.

Lovely.

Aww.

Now you got us all making clips of that.

Think about how many fan edits are going to be.

It's alliteration.

Lovely Leah.

Like, come on. Chill the fuck out.
out oh i want you guys to be together stop you're just saying that because the edits you watch the edits they worked on you and that's what you want they did work on me and i should know better i like know this shit come on come on okay okay if you had to go into the hideaway with one person from the season. What the fuck? Right now, who would you go with? That's nuts.
No. That's nutty.
No. Ariana.
Anyways, next question. She looked fucking amazing this season.
She looked so good. She was always wearing see-through clothes.
I was like, what's up with her not really wearing clothes all the time time how many times did you guys think she was a bombshell walking in um once but also i thought she was an islander when we she was sitting there with them when we walked in and i went around and shook everyone's hand i shook her hand i was like nice to meet you i'm rob and then i was like oh yeah it was really embarrassing there's a clip of like cordell at one point and everyone's like it's ariana it's Ariana. And Cordell comes out.
He's like, who the fuck is that?

He's blind as a bat.

He can't see shit.

It's so funny.

Serena and Cordell are so cute now.

I love them.

I love them both individually.

Yeah.

So it makes me easy to like them as a couple.

You know what I'm saying?

Like they had their struggles.

They're really dope.

But that's why I think they'll be good.

Yeah.

I think because like they had a hard time.

They got through a lot. Yeah.

But like, yeah, they're both dope. Okay.
Who was the best kisser of the season? Andrea. You guys did seem like you had a good little.
Yeah. I would say Andrea.
Okay. I need you to clear something up.
During the body count game, your answer was mysteriously just completely skipped over. Really? They air it they didn't air it so what is your body count rob it was probably because it was boring what was it 25 is that a fake number no that feels fake it's not fake that feels fake it's not fake it's not no it's a good estimation estimation it'sation? It's good.
It's 25. It's 26 now.
Lucky number. Is it? Oh, no, it's not.
23 is a lucky number. Fuck.
Passed it. Is 23 a lucky number? When I go to the casino, I put it on red 23.
Okay. Do you go to Vegas a lot? I used to when I lived in LA.
You lived in LA? I mean, you could hardly say that. I was here for a year.
Why? Work. Rob Thunder.
What? Just kidding. It was a joke.
Wait. That was a joke.
So, Connor. Yeah, yeah.
So, the picture they took for me, for my picture, everyone thought I looked like a porn star. And so, Connor came up with the name Rob Thunder.
That was like me. You kind of are giving porn star right now like i'm waiting for you to like gyrate on the chair not gonna happen you're not gonna do that though anyways um okay what is the weirdest place that you've ever had sex um airplane airplane maybe like yeah that's a good one library library everyone's reading well clearly you can be quiet no one knew in the villa that you had had sex okay are you actually taking a break from dating i know you keep saying it like you're thinking like you're you got to chill on that like you're gonna have everyone as friends i just can't i can't imagine like trying to get to know someone right now i can't imagine like giving someone my full attention and like actually being able to be present like what are you thinking right now you need to like run home to alabama and like get in your bed and like no like get in the woods and like leave my phone at home i need to go in the creek and yeah i'm not kidding like i really need that it's like my therapy when you pick up your first snake what are you gonna do to it kiss it no no oh have you ever kissed a snake yeah of course if it feels right if the mood is right if the mood's right we'll give a little little cutie okay so you're ready to get back to the woods yep are you going to continue to be a snake wrangler are you gonna like start popping up are you gonna do the reality stuff are you gonna go back on another reality show like what do you think's the vibe i have no idea they like they've asked me a lot like what i want to do from this because like the show is so big did the best it did it's number one it beat every other show in america yeah it was the number one streaming insane uh which i did not see coming so like yeah like i think we should keep catching snakes i mean like if i get a really good opportunity like maybe like i said i'll be like ah fuck it whatever like that's kind of how i live my life like that's why i went on love island that's why that situation had like i didn't apply for that you know like right so yeah something that comes across like i would like survivor oh i would do that like some shit like that are you going to see everyone for the reunion isn't there a reunion there's a reunion coming up are you excited are you nervous um i would say i'm nervous why i don't know i don't know just when i think about that the stress chemical in my brain comes out what stresses you out i'm procrastinating thinking about it no we have we're almost this is like basically the last question i promise we have two more questions okay so'll take our time.
What are you stressed about going to this reunion? Well, I feel like, I feel like, I don't know. I'm just interested to see like who's still together and like how everything is going for everyone and just like everyone together again.
Like I think a lot of people went to the internet and maybe some things have been said that are like not great about other people.

And that's going to be a thing for sure.

I mean.

But you have been kind of not causing drama.

I'm just being honest.

Like anything I've said, I'll be like, yeah, I said that.

I meant that.

So you have nothing to be worried about now?

No, no.

Just the situation in general.

Gives you anxiety. Yeah.
That's just going to be like not just me no not with me i'm thinking about other people like i'm like how the fuck is that gonna go like um why okay will you tell me off camera who you're the most nervous about i'll tell you okay okay okay okay but you're gonna go and you're gonna be like drama free because you kind of what if miguel and leah aren't together i'd be like damn sorry guys i'd be like damn that sucks i was really rooting for y'all take their hands okay rob closing statement what would you like to say to the ladies of america who love or hate you hate is the closest emotion to love. No.
I'm just kidding. Thank you.
I don't know. It's confusing.
I'm confused. You know something? I kind of saw myself like after, obviously, there was a lot of drama at the beginning, but after that, I just thought I was kind of a background character.
I didn't really feel in the show anymore. So I just kind of like, yeah, whatever.
I'm just chilling. And then I was surprised when I came out.
It was like a lot of buzz about everything about me. What do you think this episode is evoking? What do you think we're giving today? I blacked out.
I don't really know. I kind of blacked out too.
I feel like I had to ask you the same question over and over to get you to answer. And then we just kept going.
And I think we got a lot of answers, right?

You did all the like the stuff I thought,

like all the like drama stuff.

Right.

You got all that stuff.

It's all good.

Like I know you're not going to answer the questions of like,

who did you not like in the villa?

Would you answer that?

No, exactly.

You're shaking your head.

For those of you that are listening, driving to work,

he's shaking his head.

I mean, I mean, why would you want to talk about that?

Why would you want to focus on the negative?

And that, I know, I know you're saying you're not're not i know but you know that people are going to be like why the fuck did you guys not ask certain questions like when okay the one move moment from movie night when you saw leah making fun of you crying yeah and then she apologized and it seemed super genuine yeah that was great like that oh yeah that was okay so uh how did you feel about that? So after not leaving after Andrea left, I was like, kind of regretting it a lot. And that moment made me the most happy I was about staying.
That moment was so great for me, like, for us, I thought, which was I really liked it gave us closure. And it was in front of everyone, which I loved, because I'm not the kind of person that like, I feel like there was weirdness in the villa about Leah and I, but I'm not the kind of person that's going to go to everyone and like give my side of the story, blah, blah, blah.
Like, I'm just going to like let my actions speak for themselves. Yeah.
But in that moment, I was given the opportunity to like talk with her and stuff. And I thought it was really good for us.
And then we had a great conversation after that. And yeah, we just like we got back to being friends and like it was good the heart rate challenge do you get a little excited no yeah you did i did not you got excited for leah i got excited oh you mean like a boner no i'm just saying like you got the most the way you look excited that's how you said it you said it like a boner like don't make't make me weirdo.
No, you thought it. You said it like that.

So you get a little excited?

You winked at me.

You got a little excited.

Like, your heart rate went up the most for her.

Crazy.

That's why the fan edits are popping off, Rob.

I don't, I just didn't.

No, I actually think Miguel is an awesome guy.

He is.

And it's going to be interesting to see.

This is the fascination around the show.

It's like, he lives in the UK, right?

And she lives in Calabasas. It's going to be interesting for people.
same with aaron right like he doesn't he's moving to america where does kayler live oh my god i'm from pennsylvania she's from a town of 6 000 no no no is aaron gonna move there surely not no they're gonna move to la aaron will hate la i don't know aaron seems to love those flashy lights he will hate la you think i hate la that's why i moved No offense. Aaron will hate LA.
I don't know. Aaron seems to love those flashy lights.
He will hate LA. You think? I hate LA.
That's why I moved. No offense.
It's great for other people. Too much concrete for me.
Too much concrete. Yeah.
You need the woods. Okay, Rob, is there anything else you want to say? Like, do you feel like you got everything off your chest? I'm sure after this, I'm going to think of a million things.
I'm like, damn, I should have said that. But like, let's leave it for now.
Yeah. I'll see you in a year.
a year we'll catch up we'll check in see how you feel about it all whatever you need thank you rob for coming on thank you this was lovely yeah this was a nice time it was good i was like it was good like you didn't feel like it was it harder than you thought it was gonna be no was it more fun than you thought it was going to be? Yes. That's good.

You came in here nervous.

Yeah, definitely.

I'm still nervous.

Do you want to call Dave Portnoy?

Yes.

I love Dave Portnoy.

Wait, you're a barstool guy?

Not really, but I like him.

He's just like...

Cool.

I know people hate him, but I like him.

Dave is Dave.

He's just Dave.

I like genuine people.

It was the same...

Yeah.

I like genuine folk. I like people that are just themselves and they don't really give a fuck.
And he's like that. Dave is Dave.
He's just Dave. I like genuine people.
It was the same. Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I like genuine folk.

I like people that are just themselves and they don't really give a fuck.

And he's like that.

Dave is honest.

Dave is very honest.

Even if it hurts your feelings, he's honest.

He's going to be honest.

He's going to be Dave.

I like that about him.

Okay, let's go call him.

He's a cutie. You want to shoot your shot and your brain, it just shuts down.
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