Rob’s Love Island Tell All (FBF)

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Speaker 1 Rob, welcome to Call Her Daddy. Thank you.

Speaker 2 Thank you. Thank you.

Speaker 2 Rob, Rob, Rob, Rob, Rob, Rob.

Speaker 1 I feel like so many women around the world right now have so many feelings and emotions towards you. So today, we're going to really peel back the onion and we're going to get into it.

Speaker 2 So that's good. That's good.
Good luck. Okay.

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Speaker 1 So you just got off the plane from Fiji. You came directly here after getting eliminated.
How has it been like acclimating to the real world?

Speaker 2 It's really, really strange. One of the big things is like neon isn't on everything, like neon signs, like like the lights there.
I got real used to just seeing that every day.

Speaker 2 I got to my hotel room, and I was like, so dark in here.

Speaker 1 I had to, like, pause. I didn't know what you were fucking saying.
You're saying, like, the way the villa looks is so bright.

Speaker 2 You get used to it. You get used to like just being around, like, literally, there's a neon sign on every surface, like, it's like lights up.
Right.

Speaker 2 And I got out and I was like, it's so dark out here.

Speaker 1 Okay, that's not kind of what I was asking, though.

Speaker 1 I just, I don't know. When you got your phone back.

Speaker 2 Oh, right.

Speaker 1 How did you like handle all of it? Like, what did you first do when you got your phone? I called my family.

Speaker 2 You called your family? I called my family. They gave me my phone on the way to the airport and I knew I wasn't going to have service.
So I called my family in like a group chat FaceTime, you know?

Speaker 2 Yeah. Immediately.

Speaker 2 I saw all their faces and I was really nervous because I was like, I was either worried that they were going to be like, hey, Robert, how are you?

Speaker 2 But they were all like, hey, like, they were so happy to see me. And they seemed like, they're like, we're so proud of you.
Like, you did so good. You were yourself the whole time.

Speaker 2 And I was like, oh, what a relief.

Speaker 1 Well, because you thought there was a chance they were going to be like, you ruined our family's reputation. You dragged our name through the rug.

Speaker 2 Well, like, I just didn't know. Like, I didn't know.
Because, like, it's a TV show, right? Yeah. I know what happened.
I was there. Yeah.
I knew that I was authentic the whole time, right?

Speaker 2 But it can get clipped and it can get edited. And, like, yeah, you know.

Speaker 1 Have you checked your DMs yet?

Speaker 2 Um,

Speaker 1 what's going on in there, Rob?

Speaker 2 It's honestly, like, at this point, like, too much to even.

Speaker 2 It's just a refresh and then it's like a new page.

Speaker 1 Do you have any like celebs in there?

Speaker 2 Um, I had a really good conversation with Noah from Stranger Things. Oh, what?

Speaker 1 That's so random.

Speaker 2 You want to hear what I said to him? Please. I said the funniest thing back.
I think it went over his head, but it was so funny. And then we just talked about the show.

Speaker 2 Like he was just a big fan and I just talked to him about it. Oh, wait.
Should I not say it? Well, he just said, it was fine. He said, I love you on

Speaker 2 Love Island. You stole my heart.
And I said,

Speaker 2 thank you so much. I love Stranger Things.
Thank you, Noah Schnapp, from the hit TV show, Stranger Things.

Speaker 2 I just gave him back like a bot response. I thought it would be really funny.
And he just said, Thanks, Rob. You and Lee should have won.
And then we just talked about the show for a while.

Speaker 1 Is that like so surreal that you have someone like that in your DMs?

Speaker 2 Yeah, it was also worse that I just didn't even think about it. And I was talking to him.
And then my sister was like, What are you doing?

Speaker 2 And I was like, I'm actually having just a casual conversation with the guy from Stranger Things right now, but it was funny.

Speaker 1 Have any women slid in?

Speaker 2 A few, I'm pretty sure.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Any that you're like, ooh.

Speaker 2 Well, I think right now at this point in time, I'm pretty like

Speaker 2 emotionally drained. I don't know if I'm ready for anything.
You're not ready.

Speaker 1 Yeah. But like good to know they're there.

Speaker 2 Whatever you want to call it.

Speaker 1 I saw that everyone was like up in arms on the internet about you got out of the villa and you followed Leah.

Speaker 1 And then eventually you followed all of the rest and Andrea and all of them.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 1 But does it freak you out that like all everyone is like seeing everything you're doing? Or do you love the attention?

Speaker 2 Come on, Rob. Look what you're wearing.
You love the attention.

Speaker 2 i had to wear them okay don't come for the overalls i had to wear them i saw the memes and everything and i was like bro i was like you know might as well okay first talk to me about the overalls for a second so you did bring other clothes obviously but like was this the first thing you packed no i didn't even plan on wearing these so i brought these so uh love island usually the intro is you're like doing your job and you get a text and you're like oh time to go to the villa so i was that that's what these were for oh do you wear these when you wrangle the snakes sometimes yeah

Speaker 2 often sometimes, yeah. So, so, yeah, so I brought them for that part.
Okay. And then I was like, oh, fuck it.
So, I just threw them in the villa bag that goes in. And then I wore them.

Speaker 2 And I was like, dude, this is the move because Fiji's really hot, right? Right. And I didn't have to wear a shirt, basically.
It was like pants, a little bib, but it's very breathable.

Speaker 2 It was comfortable.

Speaker 1 But were you feeling yourself in it too? Like, did you think the ladies were going to love the overalls? No.

Speaker 2 No. Definitely not.

Speaker 2 Okay. They didn't like them there.
Okay. It wasn't a no.

Speaker 1 Are you currently doing D on D?

Speaker 2 Currently, I'm not D on D.

Speaker 1 And what is D on D to people that maybe didn't watch the season of Love Island?

Speaker 2 D on D is dick on Dim.

Speaker 1 And can you talk about that? Because it feels a little bit masochistic. It feels a little bit like rug burn.

Speaker 2 Do you know what? No, no, no. It's not like that.
You should, well, you can't try it, but

Speaker 2 I would encourage anyone out there to try D on D.

Speaker 2 It's, yeah, you're penisless, so it's not going to work for you, but it's breathable and like it's just nice.

Speaker 1 Why did you choose to wear underwear today?

Speaker 2 Well, I'm wearing my lucky underwear.

Speaker 2 I thought I might need it.

Speaker 1 What is your lucky underwear?

Speaker 2 You don't need to show me. You don't

Speaker 2 show me. Okay.

Speaker 1 Okay, so that kind of sounds like a little bit of a kink. Like, you like your dick on denim.
What is some like weird shit that you like in the bedroom that's maybe a little like unexpected?

Speaker 1 I'm not gonna tell you that. Yeah, you have to.

Speaker 2 Oh, okay. Oh,

Speaker 2 I didn't know that.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's what color daddy is. You have to tell me.
What's something like a little like off the beaten path that you liked in the bedroom?

Speaker 2 Off the beaten path? Mm-hmm.

Speaker 2 What? Come on. Come on.

Speaker 1 These are this is what the ladies want.

Speaker 1 But you, everyone in America knows you. You, you just met me.
I know you.

Speaker 2 You don't. You think you know me? I know you.
You know my story. No, no.
You know, I named my story, but you don't know me.

Speaker 1 No, no. I saw you in the heart rate challenge.
I've seen you in your cowboy outfit. I know you're getting up to some kinky shit in there.

Speaker 2 I mean, you're not lying. No.

Speaker 2 But, like, I don't really want to talk about it.

Speaker 1 Like, okay, give me like a little hint.

Speaker 2 I like to have sex,

Speaker 2 Rob. I I like sex

Speaker 1 did it in the beginning of the villa you I think with Andrea you looked at her and you were like I'm sorry like I haven't ejaculated in a really long time like I'm having a hard time like

Speaker 2 that you don't understand I saw a clip of that and and I think that really was a part of why I was so emotional going into love island is crazy you don't understand you're on no sleep yeah you have no alone time, which is huge for me because that's how I process my emotions.

Speaker 2 I have to be alone. Okay.
So I couldn't figure my shit out. And also I was horny as fuck.

Speaker 1 Well, you eventually came. We'll talk about that.

Speaker 1 Okay. Are you enjoying the attention or is it freaking you out?

Speaker 2 It's freaking me out. Okay.

Speaker 1 What is the biggest turn off to you?

Speaker 2 Bad breath.

Speaker 1 Did someone have bad breath in the villa?

Speaker 2 I'm not, yeah, but I'm not telling you.

Speaker 2 No.

Speaker 1 And did everyone know about it? No.

Speaker 2 Only you? No. It wasn't in the villa.
Fuck. I can't say it anymore.

Speaker 1 Okay, moving on. All right.

Speaker 1 How do you think the women, obviously, like everyone's having feelings about you as you've gotten your phone?

Speaker 2 how do you think the women are feeling about you in America um okay basically

Speaker 2 I'm a toxic gaslighter but I'm hot enough that it doesn't matter that's like the that's it that's the consensus I've gotten I've seen so many TikToks of like this man is a red flag he's terrible I hate him I can't stop looking at him I love him so much like it's like just weird How does that make you feel?

Speaker 2 I feel like it's not true, but it's kind of true.

Speaker 2 i'm not like i don't feel like i guess i don't feel like i don't feel like i do but maybe i do i don't know that's exactly how i feel i haven't processed it right like i depth did i do everything right absolutely not right did i make mistakes 100 do i regret things i did

Speaker 2 i think every decision i made i would have eventually made i think i was put in these like small time frames where my issue was my communication Okay.

Speaker 2 And it partly was because I didn't know how I was feeling.

Speaker 1 Okay, to your credit, I will say to you, I feel like you were up front at all times with everyone. And maybe you weren't like

Speaker 1 the most articulate in like long form sentences about it, but you did tell people up front how you were feeling in moments. Definitely.

Speaker 1 Even if it upset people, which I feel like there were other people in the villa that like would skirt around the truth because they knew it was going to hurt someone really.

Speaker 1 It's like, just tell people the fucking truth so you don't look like a piece of shit because all of this is on camera. You know what I mean? Exactly.

Speaker 1 Okay, I agree with you on the conflicted thing. I think people are like, I'm in love with him, but I feel like he'd break my heart.
Slash, maybe he's a little bit of a red flag.

Speaker 1 What is it like to date you, Rob? Take us through the journey. Like, what do you think it's like to date you?

Speaker 2 I don't love people. Okay.
I'm not a people person.

Speaker 2 But I love my friends.

Speaker 2 Hmm. How do I get into this? Okay, let's say, all right, let's say we're going to go on a date.
Okay. Let's just say first date.
Okay.

Speaker 2 I would like prefer to do something where it's just the two of us and like quiet. We get to know each other.
Like, I'm not like a big concert guy. I don't like going to the club.

Speaker 2 I'll go to a bar, but even then, I'm like, there's too many people here. Uh-huh.

Speaker 1 So, what's your ideal first date?

Speaker 2 I would say, like, a picnic. A picnic.
I like a good picnic. Okay.
Go to the creek.

Speaker 2 Go to the river. Go to the beach.
Okay. Bodies of water are typically good for picnics.
Okay. I find.
Okay.

Speaker 1 Okay. I guess if all of your exes were in this room right now, what would they say about you?

Speaker 2 I think

Speaker 2 my last girlfriend would have a lot of good things to say and a lot of bad things to say. The one before that, same.
I think same.

Speaker 2 I think with my last relationship, I mean, I don't want to talk too much because that's her business too. But I think the wheels kind of fell off at the end and it went longer than it should have.

Speaker 2 And I think that was like really...

Speaker 2 It came down to like communication and and I think it was hugely on me.

Speaker 2 And it's like one of my my biggest regrets is like putting her through

Speaker 2 the months of like the end of our relationship. Like,

Speaker 2 yeah, because I did love her. And like,

Speaker 2 I fully believe she loved me too. And it was like, just knowing you did that to someone that you care about.

Speaker 1 What, you just, like, weren't communicating with her how you were feeling?

Speaker 2 I just was like

Speaker 2 depressed. Okay.
And that's not an excuse. Yeah.
When you care about somebody, you still have to like figure that out. But like, I didn't know how I felt about myself.

Speaker 2 And I just couldn't give her what she needed. and I just should have walked away way sooner.

Speaker 1 How long was that relationship? It was about two years.

Speaker 2 Okay, is that your longest relationship? On and off like we broke up, we got back together.

Speaker 1 It was one of those.

Speaker 2 It wasn't a lot. I think we broke up twice.
Okay. But like, yeah, it wasn't like back and forth, back and forth.

Speaker 1 How long has been your longest relationship? That?

Speaker 2 Okay.

Speaker 1 So it was communication?

Speaker 2 Largely.

Speaker 1 Okay, we'll get back to that.

Speaker 1 This was not your first time on Love Island. You were in Casa Moore last season, but you didn't make it out of the villa.
why did you want to go back to the show i just

Speaker 2 they called me

Speaker 2 they said what are you doing and i was literally saving a turtle crossing the road i was in a great mood i was on my way to arkansas to go catch a bunch of snakes i was wearing these overalls like true story i was wearing these overalls i had just caught a copperhead i was on cloud nine i was having a great day and someone called me they're like hey rob what are you doing you single I said why you interested?

Speaker 2 And

Speaker 2 they're like, no, you want to come back to Love Island? I was like,

Speaker 2 I thought about it and I was like, you know what? Like, my plan for the summer was just catch snakes all summer and just like make videos and stuff. And I was just like,

Speaker 2 fuck it. Like, I'm not really doing anything.
Might as well. I'd love to find a girlfriend.
Damn, work out.

Speaker 1 So, you were looking for a girlfriend? Were you looking for a wife, or do you not think you're there yet?

Speaker 2 I'm looking for a girlfriend that I would marry. Okay.
Like, I do, I do,

Speaker 2 I'm like dating to marry at this point. Okay.
And that's why I'm not wasting anyone's time.

Speaker 2 Like, I'm not going to get into something that I, if at any point I don't see that future progressing to that, like I'm gonna get out.

Speaker 1 How many times have you been in love?

Speaker 2 I think once.

Speaker 2 Okay, I told two of my girlfriends that I loved them, and I think I meant it with the girl, yeah, but then I

Speaker 2 realized I really meant it with the last.

Speaker 1 Yeah, do you think that your ex-girlfriend watched the season of Love Island?

Speaker 2 No, definitely not, but she definitely saw stuff.

Speaker 1 Okay, it's time to relive it. Let's go through it.
Let's go through Love Island. Let's don't look so sad.

Speaker 2 Kind of like this candle.

Speaker 1 If for sure, do we have a lighter?

Speaker 2 You don't need one. There's There's a massive.

Speaker 1 Oh, I don't know if you can do how. I don't think it will work.
They're not striking anymore. I don't think.
I don't think so.

Speaker 2 Oh, okay.

Speaker 1 You're trying to set the vibe so you can, like, be calm. Yeah.
I'm just calm. Are you anxious right now?

Speaker 2 Um,

Speaker 2 it just, I'm just uncomfortable.

Speaker 1 Why?

Speaker 2 I don't know. I like you, though.

Speaker 1 Okay, I like you too. Do you want to like

Speaker 2 take your shoes off?

Speaker 1 Nope. Or do you want like a blanket?

Speaker 1 Do you want anything to make you cozier? Don't be anxious. I promise you, you're doing great.

Speaker 2 Oh, thanks.

Speaker 1 You're doing really good. We've got a blanket.
No, it's okay.

Speaker 2 I don't need a

Speaker 2 blanket. No.

Speaker 1 Why are you uncomfortable?

Speaker 2 I just, I just, um, I'm not uncomfortable.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 I'm, I lied.

Speaker 1 Okay. I'm fine.
So you are a liar. I'm just kidding.

Speaker 1 Um, okay, but you're just uncomfortable because this is a lot for you. It's like new.

Speaker 2 It's very fresh. And like I said, like it takes me a while to process my emotions and how I feel about everything.

Speaker 2 And right now, I think some of the things I'm not really, like, I'm not, I haven't processed it. So like, this is, I mean, I just got back from Fiji.
I just left. Yeah.

Speaker 2 And so like, right now it makes me nervous to talk about these things because like emotions are kind of high and like I just don't want to like okay.

Speaker 1 Well, I think it's you know, yeah, I think it's fair that we can say for everyone watching, like to clarify again, like you literally got on a plane, you got your phone on your way to the airport, you got on the plane, you landed here and we're doing this.

Speaker 1 Like

Speaker 1 this is not like a month later or even like a week later, like you have barely had time to like even see all the fan edits on TikTok. You know what I mean? Yeah.
Like this is fresh.

Speaker 1 So I think that's good to clarify. And like when we're talking about this, it's almost like you're still on the island.

Speaker 1 And I'm sure if I interviewed you a month from now, you're going to have a complete different perspective.

Speaker 2 That's exactly what I'm thinking for sure. Like that makes me nervous.
We'll do a follow-up.

Speaker 1 Okay. So we'll compare notes from now to a month from now or a year from now.
Where will Rob be in a year from now?

Speaker 1 We'll talk about it.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 You get into the villa. You're an original cast member.

Speaker 1 And the first person that that you are coupled up with on day one is Leah.

Speaker 1 What was your first impression of her?

Speaker 2 I really liked her a lot. I felt like,

Speaker 2 I think it's pretty obvious that I'm a bit odd, and I can be hard to read. And I think it's hard for people to understand me, especially my humor.
She got it right away. And I loved that.

Speaker 2 I loved that. And I also thought she was really funny.
And obviously, she's gorgeous.

Speaker 2 But seriously, from the first night when I walked in there, we just kept like locking eyes.

Speaker 2 And I was like, man, i really hope that we get coupled up tonight and then we did and how long were you guys in the villa alone together before andrea came in two days well like yeah technically like it felt like a week but it wasn't because liv came in and stole me first right but that was like i mean like i was with like there was never a moment where i thought i was gonna go with liv instead of leah like it kind of got clipped that way but like i was telling Leah the whole time I was like you have nothing to worry about

Speaker 2 because I was shocked when Liv picked me like we all were we all were so sure she was gonna pick kendall yes i agree i was pretty shocked too yeah and then you were like you and leah were pretty upset like you wanted to make your way back to each other kind of and like we could feel that in the beginning i think we could all feel like you guys really liked each other yeah and you guys shared a brain cell can you explain what that means i don't i don't remember how that went down i just know that it was a thing and that we would give it to each other when we were talking because we were like it was a lot i mean like we didn't sleep the first night like we were like it's insane i'm telling you it's an insane experience that's like built to get your emotions up.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Which is like, it's good. That's how it works.
It's like putting a relationship in a microwave. Like, you know someone for a week, you feel like you know them for a month.
Like, it's crazy.

Speaker 1 Well, then Andrea comes in, and I remember you're sitting at the fire pit, and you're like, oh my God, that is the most gorgeous woman I've ever seen in my life. Did I say that actually?

Speaker 2 Yeah, you said that.

Speaker 1 You were at the fire pit, you turned to the guys and you're like, that's the most gorgeous woman I've ever seen in my life.

Speaker 1 You also told

Speaker 2 they put in the whole clip because it was that.

Speaker 1 I said, I hope she has a terrible personality you did say you did yes and then but you also told leah that you weren't attracted to blondes i don't like blondes so then what was different about a blonde she's brunette she has blonde hair but she's not a blonde okay yeah she's got brown eyes dark features she's not a blonde but she's currently a blonde yeah but it doesn't come on it's not the hair no i know i wish that's not what makes you blonde or brunette no to me okay I was just curious because obviously Leah was like, what the fuck?

Speaker 1 He said he wasn't into blondes. And then we have Liv, and then we have have Andrea.

Speaker 2 Well, also, like, I don't follow like a rubric of like

Speaker 2 she has blonde hair, done.

Speaker 2 Like, that's not, I don't really, when people ask me, I say, I don't have a type, okay, but I do typically like brunettes, okay, like my track record, definitely more into brass.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so when Andrea comes in, what was your first impression, like, during your first conversations with her?

Speaker 2 Um, first conversation,

Speaker 2 it was nice, but it wasn't like romantic. Like, I didn't feel I enjoyed talking to her.

Speaker 2 Okay, like, we apparently talked for like a really long time yes and i didn't realize that we were talking that long so like it went really well um but it wasn't like like it wasn't like i was i was still like pre-all in on leah at that point okay

Speaker 2 you can imagine how that's confusing though because you were spending a lot of time with her well we had we literally just had that one combo

Speaker 1 that was it yeah before before the next day she took me on a date but that night we just had one one conversation yeah and so you decided to be upfront with leah that you were kind of feeling Andrea in that moment, which I do think everyone like appreciated that you were upfront about it.

Speaker 1 You were like, I'm really still feeling you, Leah, but I do want to get to know her. And I'd be lying if I didn't.

Speaker 1 Were you afraid to have that conversation with Leah?

Speaker 2 Of course, because I didn't want to hurt her. I still really liked her.
Like, I was like,

Speaker 2 that's something I think that people don't understand. Like, there was never a point where I stopped liking Leah.

Speaker 2 And when, well, I guess we'll get to that, but yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay, but as you can imagine from Leah's perspective, like that sucks to be like, I'm going to get to know someone.

Speaker 1 And it's like, oh, fuck, I'm not good enough that, like, you want to go try something different, obviously. Were you worried that you would lose her?

Speaker 2 Yeah,

Speaker 2 definitely. It was stressing me out.

Speaker 2 Like, it was stressing me out because I was, I told myself that I was going to get to know every girl and I was going to try to figure out who was going to be my best match, no matter how much I liked the girl I was with.

Speaker 2 Okay. Because that's what the love I experience.
That's what you're supposed to do. Yep.
And that, you know, that's what they tell you. And I'm like, yeah, I'm going to do that.

Speaker 1 And so I was like I got it and it was like a good enough conversation where I was like I'm giving this a chance like I'm just gonna see where it goes the love island experience is odd like it's it's not normal like in the real world when you're single you would never do that but are you usually at least talking to like a couple people at once like do you have like a little roster not really I'm not really like

Speaker 2 I don't like talking to people that much. So like it's usually.

Speaker 1 Are you bad texter?

Speaker 2 Yeah, I'm terrible on the phone. Yeah.

Speaker 1 So how do you communicate with your girlfriends?

Speaker 2 Calling, FaceTime,

Speaker 1 much better. Are you a FaceTimer or a caller?

Speaker 2 I'm a caller, but I will FaceTime. Okay.

Speaker 1 Because, yeah. Okay, so in real life, though, you don't usually have like a couple women.
Are people going to come forward and be like, what are you talking about?

Speaker 2 I mean, yeah, like, it's definitely, it's definitely happened.

Speaker 2 Like, I've definitely been, but I mean, that's when you're single, like, yeah, you're going to get to know multiple people at a time, but, like, it's not like.

Speaker 2 I've never, like, dated multiple women.

Speaker 1 Would you consider yourself a romantic person?

Speaker 2 Yeah, I'm a romantic art for sure.

Speaker 1 What is the most romantic thing you've ever done for a girl probably

Speaker 2 took her to catch turtles at 2 a.m do you think that was your dream or her dream i don't know it seemed pretty special to me you went the moon was out and it was like it was really nice i enjoyed it a lot it's quiet it's kind of scary so she's like wants to be close and it's like

Speaker 1 i don't know turtles are cute they are cute yeah that's cute I don't know.

Speaker 2 Most romantic thing. I can't think of that off the top of my head.
I used to, I like making things a lot. Okay, like what?

Speaker 2 um i made a emerald necklace for my first girlfriend from an emerald that i mined in north carolina i think wow that's romantic yeah i like making stuff i'm i'm crafty like that okay yeah that's a good answer okay um back to love island okay the

Speaker 1 love triangle was clearly short-lived and can you walk me through the infamous conversation with leah

Speaker 1 where she goes to basically confront you and is like, hey, what the fuck? Like, I feel like you're spending time with her.

Speaker 1 And then it blows up and the whole thing just, it was basically like the last conversation that ended your guys' relationship romantically.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Oh, wait.
Oh, the one where I jumped in the pool? Yes. Okay.

Speaker 1 That was kind of like

Speaker 1 the breaking point. Okay.
Take me to that conversation.

Speaker 2 It wasn't for me at all. If it seemed that way, that's not how it was, really.
It was like, I don't know. I haven't seen it, so I don't know, but I've seen clips, obviously, like on TikTok and stuff.

Speaker 2 I feel like it was condensed down to like, I don't know how long, but like, it was a pretty long conversation that slowly got worse and worse and worse and worse.

Speaker 2 And it was kind of like Leah was coming at me, like saying what she was saying, which I thought was like perfectly valid. And I kept telling her that.
I was like, I get where you're coming from.

Speaker 2 And like, I'm trying to see from your perspective because I get that this is hurting you. It would hurt me too if I was in your shoes.

Speaker 2 And then

Speaker 2 every time I tried to talk, she kept like cutting me off. and she wouldn't let me speak.
And then it started, I started getting emotional. And then I was like, I just need to step away.

Speaker 2 And then I started crying. And I was like, bro, what the fuck are you doing? And I think just crying induced like

Speaker 2 a panic attack. Like, I was just, I was, I was fully freaking out.

Speaker 2 I was fully freaking out. And then I kind of got it together.
I went back down, sat with her. And she just started talking again, like saying the same things.

Speaker 2 And

Speaker 2 just didn't like, like, what set me off was she just didn't ask me like how I felt which I think that triggered a lot of people they were like it matters more what she feels in that moment and 100% I was the one causing this situation yeah and I was taking responsibility for that I was trying to but also like I just needed someone just to check on me in that in that moment and I and for me up until that moment she was that person and I kind of felt like

Speaker 2 just that she didn't care at all, which isn't true. It was just she was really upset and rightfully so.

Speaker 1 I feel like that was like a classic like you both were so hurt and when you were both speaking to each other you both needed the other one to validate the other one and you both were so hurt that like you couldn't do that because you needed the person to be like no you're right and neither of you could give that because you were so upset yeah but why do you think you had a panic attack like what was it that was causing you so much angst it was everything it was it was knowing that i was gonna have to choose between these two girls one that i just met but i was really like wanting to give a chance and I liked, and then Leah.

Speaker 2 That I've just been so it's been great the whole time. And honestly, like, I had no idea what I was gonna do.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I really, like, I like, and I didn't know it's very short windows of time where you have to make decisions and stuff. And like, I knew Leah wasn't going anywhere.
Yeah, so I don't know.

Speaker 2 I fucked up. I was just like, I think, honestly, had that not happened, I probably would have stayed with Leah.

Speaker 2 I think, because that was after that happened, I was like, I was like, well, that was terrible. And then at that point, like, my head was.

Speaker 2 I feel like after that, my gut was telling me, like,

Speaker 2 you should just go with Andrea. But my head was still, like,

Speaker 2 you really get on with Leah. Yeah.
Like, it's really good. But I was hurt.
And I wish I could have just.

Speaker 2 Something I needed to hear in that moment that I wish someone would have come up into me and said was advice that I gave everyone else later down the road was you need to just take yourself out of Love Island for like 10 minutes and just realize you just met these girls.

Speaker 2 It's not that big of a deal. Why are you so emotional? Like really like pick it apart because I didn't know.
I was like, why am I crying so much?

Speaker 2 I like, and I thought that, but I didn't take myself out of it completely. And I think if I had done that,

Speaker 2 I think it would have been a lot different.

Speaker 1 Okay, but to your guys' credit, like, it's like you guys are in this like experiment box and like you can't take yourself out of it. That's the beauty and the hard part of it.
Like, I get it.

Speaker 1 You're like, wait, if I had gotten to just like go home for five minutes and like talk to my family and hung out, I would have come back in and been like, listen, ladies, like, let's all get to know each other.

Speaker 1 It's not that deep. Whoever picks who, like, we're all still here.
Let's just keep hanging. Like, we've known each other for 24 hours.

Speaker 1 Like, but in the moment, it's so intense because it's also fucking with people's like time while you're there. And can someone almost get sent home?

Speaker 1 Like, it's so many dynamics that like it is heightened.

Speaker 1 You made a pretty fucked comment in that conversation about how there was no sexual connection. I did not say that.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 I did not say there's no sexual connection.

Speaker 1 You weren't feeling the sexual connection between you and Leah.

Speaker 2 Did I say those words? Yes. That's exactly what I said.

Speaker 1 You said, I mean, we can

Speaker 1 look it up. You said basically like you were not feeling the sexual relationship.

Speaker 2 Yeah, it was,

Speaker 2 I felt like our, we weren't like, we didn't know what each other wanted. Like it was kind of like a weird thing.

Speaker 1 Because you guys like, you had made out, right?

Speaker 2 Yeah, we made out like a couple times. And it was good.
It wasn't bad. I was just like, I don't know why that came up, but

Speaker 2 yeah, I was just letting her know. Like, I'm in that it there, like you said, anything you don't say to somebody is wasting their time.

Speaker 2 And like, like, I felt like I needed to be as transparent with everyone as I could.

Speaker 1 And so what were you feeling? Because you clearly have a sexual connection with her, no? Or no?

Speaker 2 Yeah, but it wasn't like, I feel like we didn't click sexually. Does that make sense? Found her really attractive, everything.

Speaker 2 But when we kissed and stuff, it was like, it felt like she was holding back. She told me, and she said she was.

Speaker 2 Like, she said, oh, that's because, she said it was because the first night when we had our first kiss, I said, please be gentle. I was joking before we kissed.
And she said, that's why.

Speaker 2 She said that from then on, she like would like hesitate like kissing me and stuff. And she said, that was why.
And do you think if that, I was like, I was like, well, that makes sense.

Speaker 2 Cause that's what it felt like. It felt like she was holding back.
I couldn't tell if she wanted to kiss me whenever we would, we'd like to make out. And I'm like, does she want to stop?

Speaker 2 Like, I couldn't tell. Like, it was really weird.
And I'm glad I told her because, well, I don't think we made out again after that. But,

Speaker 2 but I, I told her that, and she was like, oh, yeah, I was holding back. Um, because you said that the first time you kissed.
I was like, that was a joke.

Speaker 1 Because I think, obviously, like, that sucked to see because I, on her side, just like as a girl, you're like, fuck. Like, there's no rebuttal.
It's like saying you have no chemistry with someone.

Speaker 2 Yeah, but am I wrong for like telling her that? No, no.

Speaker 1 Yeah. And I think she

Speaker 1 understandably

Speaker 1 was so upset by that comment. And then she slept outside that night because I think she went to Serena after that and was like, I literally feel like, what the fuck? Like, I feel like gross.

Speaker 1 Like, I'm like, oh my God, am I not sexually attractive to him? But that's not what you were saying.

Speaker 2 Not at all. And I told her that.
Okay. You got to understand these conversations.
They're like max five minutes long.

Speaker 2 Yeah. That was at least an hour.
Yeah. At the very least, there's probably more of us talking up there.

Speaker 1 In that moment when I was watching, and you can clarify, it felt also like you were saying that and i could be wrong but i feel like the viewers kind of felt this way and you

Speaker 1 when you shared that with her you use that an example of like why you basically were gonna maybe like try and make things work with andrea i mean

Speaker 2 maybe

Speaker 2 but no like it was more of just telling her everything about us like on the table so if that did happen

Speaker 2 Like she understands where I'm at like I didn't want I didn't want to blindside anyone and I feel like I, I ended up blindsiding her because I didn't get the chance to talk to her before the recoupling thing.

Speaker 2 That was, like, that's one of my biggest regrets is I should have insisted because I wasn't able to get to her.

Speaker 2 And I should have, like, been like, no, we're not, like, I need to talk to Leah before this. Like, because I knew it was going to happen.
But yeah.

Speaker 1 Can you explain that you weren't able to get to her? Like, do they, they physically put you in different rooms and you can't see people?

Speaker 2 Oh, or you're not allowed to talk about it. I can't talk about it.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Really? I feel like everyone knows that. Okay, so I'm going to.

Speaker 1 Okay. I'll just assume that you guys are like it separated.

Speaker 2 I wasn't able to talk to her. That's all I can say.
Like, I didn't get the, I didn't get the chance. Okay.
I didn't get the chance to talk to her.

Speaker 1 And can we just like finish the conversation on how everyone thought that you were potentially crying to manipulate the situation?

Speaker 1 I think a lot of people looked at the situation like, wow, he's in a position of power. He's getting to pick between these two women.
If anyone

Speaker 1 and he's crying, like fucking Leah should be crying if anyone's crying, but she didn't, obviously.

Speaker 1 And so people were struggling to know if the tears were genuine or if they were like a manipulation tactic to like make it look kind of like, oh, I'm, this sucks for me too, and like kind of get you out unscathed.

Speaker 1 What do you say to that?

Speaker 2 That's completely not true. I mean, you can ask anyone that I would never,

Speaker 2 never want to cry. Like,

Speaker 2 no, definitely not. That was completely genuine.
Okay. Unfortunately.

Speaker 2 I wish it didn't happen at all.

Speaker 1 The pool.

Speaker 1 Was there nowhere else to go?

Speaker 2 So this is one of those things I should.

Speaker 2 So in my head, i wasn't planning on going to the pool but i saw it i walked down the stairs i saw it i was like oh i had noticed earlier that day you could go up under the deck and there's no cameras there's no mics i just wanted to be alone i was like fuck this shit and i was like all right i'm going in there and so i took my clothes off i jumped in i went in there and then i got in there and i was like they probably think i'm killing myself or something i was gonna say i was like this is a terrible idea this was an awful idea so then i got out and then i just walked out and that's what i should have done i should have just walked out because i needed to be alone that's what i needed but i knew they were gonna stop me i knew if i walked out they were gonna like stop me whatever but i knew they're, I get in the pool.

Speaker 2 Like, what are they going to do? Fish me out? Like, but yeah, it was a, it was, yeah.

Speaker 2 Hindsight, not the best choice.

Speaker 1 What do you think your biggest flaw is when it comes to dating?

Speaker 2 Probably

Speaker 2 my biggest flaw? It's hard to pick one.

Speaker 1 Oh, okay, Nick, let's list a couple.

Speaker 2 We're here.

Speaker 2 I think I definitely learned from this that I have an issue with letting people in and letting my walls down. I think I also struggle with like communication.

Speaker 2 I struggle with, I think I procrastinate my feelings i think i'm feeling them but i don't i don't process them in my brain until i have to and that is probably one of the biggest things like that's what i think happened with the leah and andre situation where i think if i had just like but then again i was never alone and i have to be alone to do that kind of thing and i think if i was able to do that it could have been so much better i could have communicated to leah a lot better because something about it is like you can recouple but it doesn't mean it's over and i still had those feelings for leah and i think if i could have talked to her about it i don't know what would have happened but like it would have been different why do you think you have such a hard time with letting people in?

Speaker 2 Probably just the way I grew up. Okay.
I was just like...

Speaker 1 Share.

Speaker 2 Kind of. Well, like I'm, I'm a family.
I'm one of four, and I was just always more the quiet one, kept to myself, didn't really.

Speaker 2 I was like the middle child. There's four of us, but I was like, you know what I mean? Like, I just was like

Speaker 2 kind of independent.

Speaker 2 And I think a lot of times I just felt like people didn't care. So like I just didn't ever.
And I still feel like that. I feel like people don't care because they don't.

Speaker 2 Like realistically, most people don't give a shit. Like, they'll ask you, but they don't really care.
So, I just don't waste my time in telling people.

Speaker 2 Like, usually, I just kind of like keep on going until I feel like it's

Speaker 2 something that matters, I guess. Yeah.
You know, that's why I think it's only in one-on-one conversations that I can like actually let my wills walls down on top.

Speaker 2 Because I think I gave every girl a chance and I tried my best. But I like looking back, I was like, damn, especially like after the Andre and Leah thing, it just like tightened me up even more.
Like,

Speaker 2 because I hurt them and I knew that, and it was my fault. Like,

Speaker 2 I fucked up.

Speaker 2 And I just, it was hard for me to keep going after that.

Speaker 1 I think people felt that. You kind of shut off after all that happened.
Do you, are your parents still together?

Speaker 2 They got divorced like two years ago. Oh, I'm sorry.
It's okay.

Speaker 1 What is your relationship like with your mom?

Speaker 2 It's really good.

Speaker 1 And your dad?

Speaker 2 It's good. Okay.
It's good. Yeah.
My mom is a lot like me. She's like very witty and funny.

Speaker 2 She's hilarious. You would love her.

Speaker 2 And then my dad is

Speaker 2 really artistic and he's very handsome. And that's like his thing.

Speaker 1 He's really handsome.

Speaker 2 Yeah. And that's his thing.
You should, yeah, yeah, he is. But well, no, and being an artist.
He's an artist. He's a person.

Speaker 1 You kind of got like a little bit of.

Speaker 2 I did. I got both.
I got both of those things. So that's good.
I got some of their best traits and I got both of their worst traits.

Speaker 1 What are their worst traits?

Speaker 2 My mom is really emotional and sometimes

Speaker 2 says and like thinks things emotionally sometimes, which I do, which I've really worked on, like, I think.

Speaker 2 And then,

Speaker 2 um,

Speaker 2 yeah, I got some stuff for my dad, too.

Speaker 1 You're like, I don't want to say what I got from my dad moving on. That's fine.
I, I respect it. Um, is there a theme?

Speaker 1 I know you kind of talk about communication, but I want to know a little bit more. Like, is there a theme of why every relationship you've had has ended?

Speaker 2 Yeah, I think, I think there is. I don't, this is really going to be sad, but it's just, I don't think that I can, I've, I've been able to let someone all the way in.

Speaker 1 And what do you feel when you like start, like someone starts to get?

Speaker 2 I feel like I reach a point and they keep going, and I can't.

Speaker 1 Why do you think that is?

Speaker 2 I don't know.

Speaker 1 Try.

Speaker 2 I didn't know this was gonna be that deep. Also, I need to turn my phone off.
Turn it off.

Speaker 1 You're not allowed to look at your phone when I ask you a deep question.

Speaker 2 Go ahead. Why do I think that is? I think

Speaker 2 I have.

Speaker 2 Gosh, this is really. I thought this was gonna be more

Speaker 2 fun.

Speaker 2 I don't know. It'll be good.
It'll get fun. I think I

Speaker 2 think I need

Speaker 2 therapy

Speaker 2 to be honest. More therapy.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 I think that's a good answer.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I think I don't love me.

Speaker 2 And I really don't give a shit what people say about me because most of the time I'm saying it to myself already.

Speaker 2 Like when I got out, I saw all the horrible things people were saying about me and I was like, huh, beat you to the punch. Like I've been saying that shit this whole time.
So

Speaker 2 I think I need to get over that before I can like really. And I'm a lot better.
I'm way better than I used to be. I used to be like

Speaker 2 really bad. Like, I'm my number one,

Speaker 2 I'm just hard on myself. And I think that comes with being an artist.
I consider myself an artist. I love creating things.
I love making things.

Speaker 2 And I think that's just part of the mentality: you can always be better. Like, it's never perfect,

Speaker 2 which is not a good mentality to have. Like, you can't be perfect.
It's literally impossible.

Speaker 2 But I know I'm very far from perfect, and I'm starting to accept it more and more. And I think, like,

Speaker 2 I don't know, I've like hurt people in the past. Like, like I said with my last girlfriend, like, I fucking hurt her

Speaker 2 and it still tears me up like and it's completely my fault there's no one to blame but me there's no good excuse for it and it's just like

Speaker 2 fuck

Speaker 1 I just carry it around I yeah I appreciate though and I think a lot of people watching this will appreciate Rob that you're like

Speaker 1 you do take accountability in what you're you're saying you're like i know i fucked up i know i'm the one that up i i want to like figure out my shit. There's so many people,

Speaker 1 one of your friends that we saw this season that like doesn't take accountability and is like acting like, no, I didn't do that. Like, what are you talking about? I didn't do that.

Speaker 1 Like, you're like, no, I did that. And I fucked up.
And I don't know why the fuck I did that. Like, I think that's progress.

Speaker 1 I think that's like the first step to actually like understanding why the fuck you make certain decisions.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Right.
I try to be a good person. I really do.
Do I think I'm a good person? Yeah. Actually, yeah.
I do think I am a good person.

Speaker 2 I think of others often and i try but i'm not perfect and i mess up

Speaker 2 and i want to be better i guess is what i'm saying like i i'm i've never been in a point in my life where i'm like this is as good as it gets i'm like this but no i i always want to keep getting better and i think i have do you think that this process made you realize more that you want to keep working on yourself 100 i mean like i i was working on myself before it but like

Speaker 2 that that's one of the valuable things i got from this is i i was able to look at myself in conflict. Like, how do I react

Speaker 2 when I'm angry? How do I act when I'm really hurt? Like, I can literally go and watch it. Like,

Speaker 2 and that's like super valuable. It really is because you can see, and that's something that Leah got from this too.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 Because Leah was, I mean, she said some awful things about me and claimed to never have said them when she told it, talked to me. Like what?

Speaker 2 That she said that I was a little bitch, and that I gave her the ick because of it.

Speaker 2 And like, just like some crazy shit that I've, I've seen, I mean, i've seen some clips but she never admitted to that once until movie night like she's she said she didn't say that and then at one point she's like i may have said some things and i was like but i fully fully believe leah didn't she didn't like i think she says things that when she gets emotional and then it just never happened like she doesn't actually feel it she didn't say it i think that kind of happens with her

Speaker 2 At least, I don't know, in that regard.

Speaker 1 I feel like your thing this season was like you run when things get a little hard. Like you physically run under the pool.
You would like walk away from things.

Speaker 1 You would go to Soul Ties by yourself and like stand there. And like, I think you, do you do that in your real life?

Speaker 1 Like do you kind of like remove yourself when things are getting a little complicated or heightened?

Speaker 2 I would say, yeah, at times, but also I would say I have to do that sometimes because like I said, I'm serious.

Speaker 2 If you were just sitting in a room with me, I wouldn't be able to think about my feelings. It's really weird.
I'd really need to be alone to process how I'm feeling. And journaling helps a lot.

Speaker 2 And you can, I couldn't do either of those things.

Speaker 1 Oh, you couldn't journal?

Speaker 2 You can't, no, because Beach Hut is your journal. Sorry, I'm not supposed to talk about that.
Oh, okay. It's like the cutaway, right?

Speaker 1 Oh, it's like your confessional is your journal.

Speaker 2 Right, but staring into a camera is a little also like the amount of things I've written in my journal that I don't mean. You just say it to get it out, and then I'm like, okay, I don't feel that way.

Speaker 2 Move on. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like,

Speaker 2 that's just how I process.

Speaker 1 So you then couple up with Andrea

Speaker 1 and you were together for four days. Yep.
And obviously, like, you went from being with Leah to then being with Andrea.

Speaker 1 Like, what did you feel like was the core difference in those two relationships that you experienced?

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Speaker 1 You went from being with Leah to then being with Andrea. Like, what did you feel like was the core difference in those two relationships that you experienced?

Speaker 2 So after like everything that happened with Leah,

Speaker 2 I was like, okay, I made the right decision. Like I just, that's just the way I saw it.
I was like, I was like, this was nuts. Like this, we've not known each other that long.

Speaker 2 We had this whole thing, which

Speaker 2 it was mostly my fault.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Like, I feel like it was mostly my fault that it happened that way. But, I mean, I mean, she'll admit some fault in it as well.
But I feel like it was mostly my fault. But

Speaker 2 it just didn't work. And I thought it was like, okay, our communication styles, whatever.
I was like, I was like, okay, well, I made the right choice. Like, things with Arn Dre are really great.

Speaker 2 And it was. It was an amazing four days we had.
Like, I was like smitten. Like, I really was.
Like, I was having a great time. And you can tell.
You seemed it. You can tell.

Speaker 2 I just thought she was like so much, like, just good. Like, I don't don't know.

Speaker 2 I like talking to her. I love the way she talked about her family, and

Speaker 2 it just felt really romantic. Like, it just felt romantic.
That's like the best way I could put it. I felt romantic when I was with her.

Speaker 1 In the moment of those four days, and I want to clarify, because I feel like a lot of people are like, you fucking knew each other for four days. Like, four days seems like what in Love Island time?

Speaker 1 That's like a month.

Speaker 2 Like, like a week, a week is like a month. It seriously is.

Speaker 2 Like, it feels like you've known them forever because literally you're with, like, usually you date a girl, you may go on a date, you'll see her maybe next week or in a couple of days and you're like, you'll text the whole time, whatever, but like there, you are with them at any opportunity you can and you have to talk about how you feel about everything.

Speaker 2 You're immediately talking about how many kids you want. And then if, so if you like them, that progresses really, really fast.

Speaker 1 That's a good point too. Like

Speaker 1 women, think about this if you're listening.

Speaker 1 Like you get upset after a fourth date if a guy ghosts you and you're because you're like, well, we went on on our fourth date, fourth date, fourth day for you for almost 24 hours of basically hanging out, sleeping together, talking like 20th date.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, okay, so it got super emotional. And then, obviously, when elimination came around, the girls decided to send Andrea home.
Yeah, and the world was fucking shocked.

Speaker 1 Like, people online were like, This is the craziest episode that we've ever seen in Love Island history. Like, what the fuck? Yeah.
And obviously, you were shocked.

Speaker 1 What do you remember feeling when you heard her name called?

Speaker 2 At first, I was just mad. I was like, this makes no sense.
This makes no sense.

Speaker 2 We had the strongest connection of most of the people in the villa at the time, like, let alone who was up for elimination. And I was like, I was just baffled.
I was baffled.

Speaker 2 I was like, how does this make sense?

Speaker 2 And then I was like, fuck it, I'm leaving.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so you immediately stood up. And you were like, now you're sending three home.

Speaker 2 Well, it wasn't immediate.

Speaker 2 That's longer. Okay, but it was like, we're sitting there, we're talking.

Speaker 2 There's a back and forth between the girls and the guys. Okay.
Blah, blah, blah. And then finally, like, I'm sitting there and I'm like, all right, yeah, nah.

Speaker 2 And then Aaron's like, no, no, no, no, no, bro, bro, bro, no, no. And I got up and I was like, yeah, I'm leaving.

Speaker 1 So you say you're leaving. Yeah.
And then you don't leave. Yeah.
I understand your re like, explain your reasoning to maybe people that forget why you didn't leave.

Speaker 2 All right. So once again, that was a three-hour process of me trying, like, wanting to leave.
Okay. And like having conversations with people.
And they're like, no, you you shouldn't.

Speaker 2 Like, they're thinking through, thinking,

Speaker 1 so it wasn't 30 minutes.

Speaker 2 No. Okay.

Speaker 2 No, she, she did have 30 minutes back. And I had that conversation with her, but after she left, I was like, no, fuck it.
No.

Speaker 2 Like, because I had a conversation and they were like, no, you should stay, blah, blah, blah. Like, it's so dumb.
You've only known it for four days. Blah, blah, blah.
And I'm like, okay, fair enough.

Speaker 2 But then right after that, I was like, no, I'm leaving. Like, I'm like, no, like, I'm actually leaving.
And

Speaker 2 I just had a lot of conversations, blah, blah, blah. And they convinced me to stay the night.
And then the next day, I calmed down and I was like okay yeah like

Speaker 2 i came here to find the best connection it was going amazing with her and i think like you know like the honeymoon stage of her relationship we were at that we were at that point where i was like this girl could do no wrong

Speaker 2 i was just like so keen like i was just happy

Speaker 2 gone and i was like fuck like i don't know like it was just a bad time like literally the next day I could have been like, oh, like, I don't know about this. You don't know.
But, but I,

Speaker 2 I was like, who knows knows who else might come in here? Like, you know, because it was still early days. Yeah.
And so I was like,

Speaker 2 I mean, yeah, it does, I don't want to get out of here, get with her. It doesn't work out, which statistically, very high probability that we would not work out.

Speaker 2 Um, and then I'm like, damn, what could have been?

Speaker 1 Do you regret the way that you responded, though, in that moment? Because you obviously got Andrea's hopes up.

Speaker 2 Yeah,

Speaker 2 100% I regret it. I wish I wouldn't have said it, but in that moment, that's what I was doing.
Like, I was set on leaving. Like, I, and for a while after that, I was set on leaving.
Even the next day.

Speaker 2 But yeah, of course, you don't see any of that.

Speaker 1 Had she not got sent home, do you think that you guys would have gone to the finale together?

Speaker 2 I don't know. I don't, I don't know.
I don't know if it would have worked out. I really don't.
It was really, really great, but like, it was still early days. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Like, we had a lot to learn about each other.

Speaker 1 And, you know, have you seen the TikTok that's trending that like you sat up there and you thought, like, you said, oh, you're sending three home. Now you're fucking in your overalls.

Speaker 2 But now, bitch, yeah, I've seen that. It's kind of iconic.
No, yeah. No, Leah's hilarious.
Like, I, I love, like, Leah's great.

Speaker 1 She's amazing. Yeah.
So

Speaker 1 after the elimination of Andrea, she's gone. And Leah basically told you that she took a back seat in that decision of the process of sending Andrea home.

Speaker 1 And this caused so much fucking drama between you and Leah. You called her a liar.
It caused drama between Leah and all the women. Yeah.
Now looking back, what do you actually believe happened?

Speaker 2 I think it was a lot of miscommunication. Okay.
From the girls to me, from me to Leah. And so,

Speaker 2 first of all, I did not think Leah was capable of lying to me. I really thought that we had, I thought we had something special.

Speaker 2 And I did not think she was lying to me at all until that conversation that she had with me. It was up on the upstairs thing.
She told me, like, and once again, I haven't watched it.

Speaker 2 I don't remember exactly what she said, but I, she basically said, like, she didn't talk shit about me and Andrea, or she didn't talk shit about me, or like, shit, like that.

Speaker 2 And I knew that wasn't true, and I was like, damn. And then she said, I took a back seat in the

Speaker 2 decision, and I was like, interesting. And the point of that conversation was not about that at all.
For me, it was more about, is this girl lying to me? Because, like, I still had feelings for her.

Speaker 2 And, like, I was thinking at this point, I was like, okay, maybe I should give this another shot. That's what the point.
You remember when I pulled Liv and

Speaker 2 what's it? Yeah, I was not trying to like.

Speaker 1 You can't even remember Kayla's name.

Speaker 2 Kayla. Sorry.
I can't remember Kayla's name. Kayla, I love you so much.
Like a sister to me. No, no, you're fine.
You're fine.

Speaker 1 I'm interested to talk to you about all that.

Speaker 2 Yeah, okay, okay.

Speaker 2 Yeah, when I pulled them, the only reason I did that is because I didn't want to like, I knew Lee was going to get upset and I just didn't want to have the conversation at all.

Speaker 2 If they were like, oh, no, she did, I would have been like, okay, cool. And I would have dropped it.
The only reason I pulled them is because I just wanted all the facts. I wanted to know the truth.

Speaker 2 before I went into it. Also, if she had been lying to me, I knew she was going to lie.
And she did kind of deny everything when we started the conversation. And And I was like, oh, okay.

Speaker 2 And then I just kind of felt lied to. And then they just kept yelling at each other.
And I was like, I don't even want to be a part of this anymore. That's not what I wanted at all.

Speaker 2 Also, people were saying that we teamed up on her. I talked to Leah by myself and she called Live Over.

Speaker 2 I think she kind of thought Liv was going to be on her side. And she just wasn't at all.
And then it was like bad. It was, I hated that moment because it was just like

Speaker 2 Leah.

Speaker 1 was just in the between two people that disagreed with her and it was just it just wasn't fair for her at all no i agree I think like understandably Leah, when she called Live Over, thought that Liv was gonna be like, oh yeah, we got your back girl.

Speaker 1 And then Liv was like, no, I'm gonna be real and this is how I feel about it.

Speaker 2 What happened?

Speaker 1 And then in that moment, it should have been like, okay, I didn't know that. So Liv, you and Leah need to have a conversation alone.
Let's you and I finish our conversation.

Speaker 1 Because I agree, it became ganging up, but then it was also tough because it's like, yeah, but you asked Liv and Liv's telling.

Speaker 2 Yeah, exactly. She asked for that.
Yeah. And

Speaker 2 she was trying to team up on me. Yeah.
But I wanted the conversation to be really calm. Like I was trying to be really, really calm.
Yeah. And then she just kept like saying these things.

Speaker 2 And I was like, this is not true. And that's when I like lost my shit.
And I was like, can you just wake the fuck up? Like, we, like, just be real with me.

Speaker 1 It's interesting because this isn't even a question for you. It's a question for production.
And I think everyone on the internet is feeling it. It's like, why will they not just air?

Speaker 1 the clip just air the clip of the girls in the huddle and they never did they never did oh i thought i would get to see it no we've never seen it. No one ever aired it.

Speaker 1 And I think a lot of people have a conspiracy that like Leah was getting a bad edit.

Speaker 1 So maybe it completely clears her name and they don't want to put it up or like, I don't know what the fuck happened in that huddle, but like they have never aired it.

Speaker 2 Based on what the girls have told me, I don't think it does that. I don't think it clears your name.
Really? No. But that's, once again, he said she said, which I don't want to talk about that

Speaker 2 in a negative way towards anybody.

Speaker 2 I don't like talking bad about people at all.

Speaker 1 No, but I get it. Like you're in the middle of this drama and everyone, it's like this one thing.
Everyone's like, what the fuck was the decision?

Speaker 1 And understandably, everyone's going to like say their piece, but I just wish, show us the fucking footage. Just show us the footage.
Yeah. Just play.

Speaker 1 And I thought we were going to get that on movie night and we didn't. We're like, just play,

Speaker 1 clear everyone's names. Get the truth.

Speaker 2 I don't know. Production.
I would have loved to see that as well. Maybe they should have.

Speaker 2 I heard like, I heard what was said.

Speaker 1 You heard what was said. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Did they ever hear that? No. I was told specifically what she was saying.
Why not? that, share it with the class. I don't want to because I don't know if it's true.

Speaker 1 Who told you?

Speaker 2 I don't want to say that either. Okay.

Speaker 1 But you got spilled.

Speaker 2 It's just drama. You got spoken.
To me, that's drama. I like to know facts.
And if I know facts, I will call you out on it. And I'll be like, hey, let's talk about this.

Speaker 2 But I'm not going to start something over something I don't know is true or not. That's ridiculous to me.

Speaker 1 No, that whole thing just became so much bigger than it was meant to be.

Speaker 2 And it became about the decision that I wasn't, I was just trying to talk about how honest she had been with me.

Speaker 2 and I feel like the way she reacted made me feel like she wasn't being honest at all well also at the end of the day no matter what Leah said in that circle there were three what three or four girls making that decision no her say it wasn't all on her so and I and I didn't care about that like that wasn't she made the decision the what she just like you know I just wanted to know if she was being honest about taking a back seat it I think that's what it became about it was never about that even if she was full like we need to get Andre out of here I wouldn't have been mad at her like I would have just liked to know if that was the truth.

Speaker 2 I just wanted honesty. Okay.
That's all I wanted. I wanted to know that I could trust her.

Speaker 1 And you don't feel like you got that.

Speaker 2 No, I didn't. I felt like I couldn't trust her at that time.
I was like, and like now, like, looking back, I don't know. Cause I think it was really getting twisted around.
I agree. By everyone.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 But myself included. I think that I didn't remember things right from our first conversation.

Speaker 2 But like, I think everybody involved in that had a different narrative. And then there was the truth.
And none of us were on it. I don't think.

Speaker 1 I know. Play the fucking

Speaker 1 talk. They should air that as like a bonus episode, and it's like a two-second glitch.

Speaker 2 Or it'd be like $2.99. Right, right.
They'd make so much money.

Speaker 2 Like an OnlyFans link for that glitch. I would fucking pay for it.

Speaker 1 In the real world, do you have an easy time trusting partners?

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Speaker 1 In the real world, do you have an easy time trusting partners?

Speaker 2 When I first start something with someone, I fully trust them. That's like, I'm not going to date you if I don't.
And that's why I was like, okay, well, I guess I'm not going to date Leah.

Speaker 1 Have you ever gone through someone's phone?

Speaker 2 Yeah, once. Well, like my first, so my first college girlfriend, that was the most toxic relationship I've ever been in.
Okay. On both sides.
I was toxic. She was toxic.

Speaker 2 We could not stay away from each other to save our lives. Broke up a million times.
Got back together a million times. Of course.
Craziest Craziest things.

Speaker 2 Also, we're drinking all the time because it's college. So the, like, that's the most awesome relationship I've ever been in.

Speaker 2 It was, it was crazy. But yeah, I went through her phone for sure.
She went through my phone too. I would wake up and she'd have my phone.
She'd be like, you motherfucker.

Speaker 2 Like,

Speaker 2 I have the craziest stories between us.

Speaker 1 Did you find anything incriminating?

Speaker 2 Yes. I know.

Speaker 1 So have you been cheated on?

Speaker 2 I mean, we weren't together at the time.

Speaker 1 Right. It was the toxic college thing where it's like,

Speaker 2 yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 Do you want to share a funny, crazy story with us?

Speaker 2 No, no, no. Why?

Speaker 2 Because she's a good girl, and I wish her the best. And we both grew up.
You know, people can change, and I don't want people to be like, you did that. You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 2 Do you think people will know who she is? Yeah, definitely. Oh, I didn't know that.
Everyone from my home down will know who she is. Oh, and then it will come out.
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 I like wish her the best. I think she's about to get married.

Speaker 1 Oh my god. Yeah.
Definitely don't share the story. Congrats.
Congrats. So proud of you.
Out of that toxic shit with Rob. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Onto healthier things. No, I think a lot lot of my ex-girlfriends are about to get married.

Speaker 2 I like prepare them. I'm like,

Speaker 2 I'm like, the stepping stone.

Speaker 1 How does that make you feel?

Speaker 2 Sad. No, Rob.

Speaker 2 Sad.

Speaker 1 You're going to find your person. Maybe.
Are you the jealous type?

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 100%. Okay.
100%.

Speaker 1 Like, how jealous?

Speaker 2 Jealous.

Speaker 2 I'm like more of like a protective jealous, but like when I'm dating a girl, like, I, like, I'll kind of make it now and like, I'll put myself in between her and whatever the situation situation is

Speaker 2 um

Speaker 2 yeah that's kind of like that okay

Speaker 1 um can we talk about Aaron your boy your boy Aaron throughout this season online sometimes people would joke that like you guys were the strongest couple in the fight

Speaker 2 a lot of that a lot of that well how would you describe your friendship I think like at first I was like, I'm not so sure about this guy.

Speaker 2 He's like kind of the opposite of me in the way that he's like really loud and like loves to like, he's just silly and like goofy.

Speaker 2 and uh and i'm like that too but like only when i'm like really comfortable with people um but then like i got to know him and like he felt like family like he he's like really like he's really sweet and he really like cares about everyone like he really did like like he would get sad when anyone was sad like specifically you though yeah yeah well like we we like became really really good friends like like he seriously felt my like my brother okay during casa more now we like we really need you to give us some information okay?

Speaker 1 To clarify this, we don't have to speak about this again. We watched Aaron basically cheat on Kayler with Daniela.

Speaker 2 Yeah, okay, well, they were open.

Speaker 1 Okay, they were open, but it was like pretty fucking slimy.

Speaker 2 I'm not going to lie, when I saw the clips, I was shocked. Okay.
I was shocked. And I was shocked the day that I saw him kissing her on the beanbag.
I was shocked. Okay.

Speaker 1 When it was time to return to the villa,

Speaker 1 you brought his girl Daniella back in with you. Right.
And he returned as single so that he could present as loyal basically to Kayla and he's like I want you

Speaker 1 What the fuck happened?

Speaker 1 Do not lie to me.

Speaker 2 Tell me what happened. Well, I wasn't really getting on with any like I got to know all the girls.

Speaker 2 They were great girls Sidney so funny like I thought they were really great girls, but I didn't see like long-term relationship type things with most of them.

Speaker 2 And Danielle had been talking with Aaron most of the time.

Speaker 2 And we have like similar type as far as personality.

Speaker 2 And the first conversation I had with her, I really liked. And he was telling me the whole time that I should talk to her.
And I was like, I was like, what?

Speaker 2 And he was like, yeah, like, I think you guys really get along. And I'm like, but because he, I think he knew he wasn't going to take her back.

Speaker 2 And at that point, he was like, you should, you should at least talk to her and see.

Speaker 1 Even though he loved her.

Speaker 2 He loved her?

Speaker 1 He told her that he loved her twice.

Speaker 2 Daniela?

Speaker 1 Yes. You have seen this.

Speaker 2 He said that he loved her? Uh-huh. I haven't haven't seen that.
Okay. Did they show that at movie night? No.

Speaker 1 That's what's been so crazy online is everyone's like, why the fuck was that not played at movie night? I don't know if Kaylor even knows that yet. She probably does now that she's out.

Speaker 2 Definitely does.

Speaker 1 I didn't know that. Oh, it was like the biggest thing on the internet.

Speaker 2 Really? I haven't even seen it on like anything. I haven't seen it clipped or anything.
Yeah. Oh, well.

Speaker 2 What was the question?

Speaker 1 Anyways, so how the fuck did you come back to the villa with Daniella?

Speaker 2 Well, yeah. So I literally didn't get a chance to talk to her that much at all.

Speaker 2 and then I did, I talked to her, and I was like, well, it was like, I liked her value, I like where her values were, and I liked, like, once again, like, she's very family-oriented, like me, and

Speaker 2 she loves animals, she wanted to be a vet. I was like, okay, I could see something here, so I was like, my, and, like, what am I gonna do? Go back single to no one to live.

Speaker 1 You did say you liked her right before you got her.

Speaker 2 I was actually really close to doing that exact thing. I was really close to going back single and just being like, Liv, what's up? You want to hang out?

Speaker 2 Yeah, I was, I was really close to doing that.

Speaker 2 I seriously thought about it, but I was like,

Speaker 2 like, our, like, Liv and I both knew, like,

Speaker 2 we get on and like, we get each other's humor, and like, I find her really attractive, but like, it was like, it's more of a friendship for sure.

Speaker 1 Like, so, did Aaron ask you to bring Daniella back?

Speaker 2 No,

Speaker 2 hell no, hell no, he didn't want me to bring her.

Speaker 1 Oh, actually, he did. Thank you.

Speaker 2 He did.

Speaker 2 But then, after that, right, like immediately after that, he was like, terrible idea. Don't bring it back.

Speaker 1 Right. Okay, so he did.
So he did articulate that.

Speaker 2 That's true. I forgot about that.
Thank you.

Speaker 1 Can you please tell us about the conversation?

Speaker 2 Oh, fuck. I don't really remember that well.
But he was like, he, he

Speaker 2 pulled me for a chat and he was like, oh, yeah. She took it really, really well.
The way that when he said that he was done, like he wasn't going to take her back, whatever. She took it.

Speaker 2 He said, like, she took it with like such grace and like she was so kind and she just said really nice things about him and stuff. And he was like, oh, dang, like, that was really cool.

Speaker 2 He's like, you're going to like her a lot. You should hang out with her.
But, like, yeah. And he was like, you should take her back.
Yeah. Yeah.
I forgot about it. I forgot.

Speaker 2 I totally, but it's because the reason I forgot about it is because

Speaker 2 maybe 10 minutes after that conversation, he was like, please forget everything I just said. That's an awful idea.
I'm going back to Kayla and I really like Kayla. Like, that's just.

Speaker 2 Don't bring her back at all unless you really want to. And I was like, okay.

Speaker 1 And just for like anyone who, for some reason is watching this and never watched love island basically the point is aaron was coupled up with kayler goes into a new house with all new women is making out with this new girl and then basically asks rob to bring that girl back into the villa on his accord so that like well he did not say he said only if you see something with her is like if you want to bring her back do it but like it was like

Speaker 2 yeah it was like i guess implied like that he thinks that she's cool but i don't but i'm telling you, literally, 10 minutes after that, he was like, freaking out. Everything I said, so wrong.

Speaker 2 I don't know what the hell I was thinking. Yeah, I'm a dumbass.
Do not do that unless you really want to. And then I was like, I got to know her, and I was like, I was like,

Speaker 2 there's enough there that I want to see where it goes. Yeah.
We didn't have a lot of time.

Speaker 1 Did you feel like a dick doing that to Kayla?

Speaker 2 Um, yeah,

Speaker 2 I did, because I care about Kayla. She's like a sister to me, but I also thought about it like, okay, well, at least, like,

Speaker 2 she's going to know, like, and i was wrong but at least she's gonna know that he's being honest because she'll tell him everything and then she didn't i've seen that as well it's

Speaker 2 yeah i know i know but that was like my silver lining i was like i was like okay yeah like this is gonna be weird and it sucks because like aaron's my best friend and Kayla is his girl and like I want to be able to hang out with them all together but honestly like Kayla really took it with Grace like and and she got along with Daniela enough that like we could all kind of hang out but like I don't know things yeah yeah Aaron

Speaker 1 is kind of in the doghouse on the internet. I know, he's kind of the villain of the season.

Speaker 2 I know. Well, yeah, yeah, and I, and I think he's gonna be okay because I think

Speaker 2 what I've just told him over and over again is you fucked up, you got to take accountability, and as long as you keep doing that, I think it's gonna be okay.

Speaker 2 Because I promise you this: he loves Kayla, he really does. Wow, he cares about her so much, and it was killing him even in Casa.

Speaker 2 Like, he was like, I remember one day specifically, it was after he kissed her. He sat in the room for like hours and just stared and was like, what the fuck have I done? Blah, blah, blah, blah.
Um,

Speaker 2 and he really cares about her a lot. He really does.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but he gets really emotional for you. There are so many clips of like his emotions towards you versus everyone else, even Kayler.
Like he was sobbing when he thought you were going to leave.

Speaker 1 It's kind of cute. So for the rest of your time in the villa, you obviously kind of like didn't find that connection that was as strong as Andrea or Leah.

Speaker 1 And I don't know if you've seen all the fan edits. You have seen all the fan edits of you and Leah.

Speaker 2 I've seen a ton. I mean, how can I not? They're fucking everywhere.

Speaker 1 The entire world like wanted you guys to end up together. Would you ever try to make it work in the real world?

Speaker 2 Um, I think

Speaker 2 after everything, I think

Speaker 2 we will be amazing friends. And I think I'd rather just focus on that for now.
Like, like,

Speaker 2 love love being around her she's an amazing person she's so fucking funny like i'm like laughing the whole time i'm with her usually um

Speaker 2 but like i mean i think i also think miguel is a really great guy i love miguel and we're actually really similar uh which i didn't see coming at all like some of our some of the way we think

Speaker 2 um but yeah i think

Speaker 2 I don't know what's happened, obviously, but I mean, no, I mean, I'm going to respect them and

Speaker 2 her. And like, I just, I just don't think that that's like necessary at all.
I think that we're great friends, and that's like a great spot to be. And I'm happy with it.
Like, I'm content in that.

Speaker 2 Like, I would be content being friends with her.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 I don't think people like that answer.

Speaker 2 I mean,

Speaker 1 that's okay.

Speaker 1 No, that's the honest truth. That's the honest truth.

Speaker 2 Yeah, like, I'm okay with being friends, and I want to be friends.

Speaker 1 Why do you think America is rooting for you and Leah, even though she has something good with Miguel?

Speaker 2 Probably all the edits. Probably all the fucking edits you guys have made of us looking at each other.
and like

Speaker 2 i mean and we care it's like it's not built on nothing like we care for each other for sure i like i feel that she cares for me and i care for her um

Speaker 2 but yeah after everything like i just i think it would be really really hard i mean it's kind of like the aaron kayler situation like that's gonna be such an uphill battle for them to get through And I think like the best thing for us is just to like move on and be friends.

Speaker 2 Like seriously, I think that's just the best thing.

Speaker 1 Was it as epic in the villa, the like feelings that you guys had as compared to like these fan edits? Because you guys had this like

Speaker 1 it feels like this like unsaid, like insane attraction. And it was this whole whirlwind.
And like, did it feel that way?

Speaker 2 Most of the time, no.

Speaker 2 Rob.

Speaker 2 What? I love that answer. Most of the time, no.
There was definitely some moments where I was like, damn. Like, I cannot lie.
There was definitely some moments where I was like, damn.

Speaker 2 But most of the time, like, a lot, like, I've seen a lot of them. I'm like, I'm like, I don't even think she was looking at me in that.
Like,

Speaker 2 some of them I'm like, okay. But yeah, like, other times I'm like, yeah, I mean, that was a nice moment for us.
Right.

Speaker 1 But the edits have made it really like.

Speaker 2 It's definitely like hype, hyped up a lot. Right.
Yeah, for sure. For sure.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay. Yeah.
And I think she would say the same thing. How do you think Leah feels about you now?

Speaker 1 Obviously, we saw your your like

Speaker 2 grand final moment with her where you run up so funny didn't feel like that at all like really i mean in the moment it did but like i literally just wanted to say bye and like let her know that i cared about her i thought she was great and i'm i'm glad that we got to get back to that point that's all i wanted to say but then it was like

Speaker 2 i don't know it was so much more emotional than i thought it was going to be like in my head i was like this is not a big deal at all i'm just gonna let her know these things and then i let her know and then i was like oh that was kind of crazy like a little bit not it wasn't that crazy but like it seems a lot crazier on TV, I think.

Speaker 1 So producers did not make you do that.

Speaker 2 No, they didn't make me do that.

Speaker 1 Because everyone was like, oh my God, that felt too perfect that it was like produced. No.

Speaker 2 No, like other than like the lines they wrote me. No, no, I'm playing.
No, that was.

Speaker 1 Well, and it's like music goes into it, which like

Speaker 1 exactly, exactly. But you both did, you say, like, love you, which I feel like not an I love you, but a love you is pretty friend zoning.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Because it's like, once you say love you to someone, it's like, ooh, wow. Because if you were really going to be in a romantic situation, you'd probably like save those words.

Speaker 2 Yeah, yeah, yeah. If you say that, it's like, I love you as a friend.
Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 1 But you just said, you guys are friends.

Speaker 1 Okay, I'm curious.

Speaker 1 Andrea,

Speaker 1 she said after she left that she would love to rekindle things with you. This probably was a while ago.
I know she's been like posting a lot.

Speaker 1 Would you want to give your guys' relationship a shot in the real world or no?

Speaker 2 I don't. Yeah, I don't.

Speaker 2 I mean, I've been talking to her a little bit, but it's not like... I think, I think, once again, like, it's probably better if we just kind of like keep our distance for now.

Speaker 2 Like, kind of, like, it's a lot has happened, and

Speaker 2 she's been, like, posting a lot. A lot.
Yeah, which is, like, I'd be lying if I was like,

Speaker 2 I was kind of like, oh, it's a lot of things to post about,

Speaker 2 which sounds really bad, but, like, I do think she's a great girl. And I think she got, like, I think the reason she did that is, like,

Speaker 2 was she went in there and did what she was supposed to do she did nothing wrong literally did nothing wrong and she was always kind like she when she left I don't know if it was I haven't seen it but I don't know when she left she was in a position where she could have said a lot of mean things and been like yeah y'all are some bitches for doing this blah blah blah did not say a word all she said was like how much she cared about me and then left like i thought that was like so good and like i thought she handled herself so well the whole time which is why i was kind of surprised like she was like posting a lot of stuff but but like i get she was she got like the most hate from anyone from the show so did you reach out or did she reach out when you got your phone i texted her i texted her i just said hey how are you like and then i called her

Speaker 2 well she yeah we called we facetimed for a little bit didn't talk about like anything like crazy just like wanted to see how she was doing because at this point i hadn't looked at really anything online And I was just like, how are you doing?

Speaker 2 Like everything. You know, I was thinking about you a lot.
Like, blah, blah, blah.

Speaker 2 Told her my, because I knew once she left, she didn't know what happened and i think it was made to look like she left i was like i'm leaving i did it and then i didn't give a yeah that was not the case yeah i was like you can ask as any person in there i was like

Speaker 2 i was so like for that week after that like it was tough but like i did i did get better and i got over it like

Speaker 2 towards the end so like and i told i let her know like all that and i was just like because i felt guilty i felt really guilty about it and i and at times i was like i should have just left Like, I'm such a bitch.

Speaker 2 Like, I don't know. I mean, you like I said, I tear myself up.
Like,

Speaker 2 but rightfully so. Like, I, it was such a lose-lose situation at that point.

Speaker 2 Like, I, because I got emotional and said that, but but yeah, I just kind of let her know, like, how it went, how I was feeling, and everything.

Speaker 2 And she told me, like, a little bit about what was going on with her, and then that was it. And then we've texted a little bit, but I did start to see like

Speaker 2 all the stuff that she was doing. And I was like, that's something that I did not see coming from her.
She just seemed very no-drama, like in the villa, so drama. Like, she, like, she said that, like,

Speaker 2 yeah.

Speaker 2 And I just was really kind of set back by that when I saw that. I was like, oh, interesting.

Speaker 1 It is interesting because I feel like that must be weird for you. Of like, everyone was a certain way in the villa.

Speaker 1 And now that everyone's going to be done and it's coming out and everyone, you're going to see everyone. Like, I wonder if you're going to feel the same type of way.
Have you thought about that?

Speaker 1 Like, once you see them in the real world, like, will you feel the same type of way about them as you did with like these kind of blinders on in the villa yeah it is like it's like when you're in the villa it's like tunnel vision and you get outside the tube's gone you know it's like if you're just a girl

Speaker 2 you still be like down to hang with her right or is she like not the vibe because it's yeah but it's not like the reason i'm having those thoughts it has nothing to do with me being out it has to do with me seeing what she's been doing while i was out like yeah i was like um interesting and but i will just like last thing on it like i will give her like credit like i do get why she would be doing that if like people were coming at her but it was a a lot.

Speaker 1 Okay, I'm gonna say the names of women that you connected with on like the um season, and I want you to describe your relationship with them in one word.

Speaker 1 You have enough paper, sorry, one word, yep, or if you want to describe your relationship, no, one word. That's great, you got this.
This is a Rob thing, yeah.

Speaker 1 That's why I said one word, one word's good. Okay, ready,

Speaker 2 I guess. I mean, think do I know that? Okay, okay, Cassidy, Cassidy, shy, sex.
No, I had sex with Cassie, Cassie, But Cassidy.

Speaker 1 Did you?

Speaker 2 Didn't have sex with her.

Speaker 1 You couldn't hold out anymore.

Speaker 2 It had been a really, really, really long time. And I was, it was, and, and like, after, I was like, fuck, Rob,

Speaker 2 you made it this whole time. You didn't have sex on TV.
Your poor mother, you're like, everyone's going to be like, he never cared about any of those bitches. He's just going to fuck, you know?

Speaker 2 And I was like, and then I was like, you know what? Like, I'm an adult. She's an adult.
It felt right in the moment. Like, it happened.
Like, it's, and I don't regret it.

Speaker 1 It's like, it just happened. Did you do it in the bed when not everyone's in the room? Yes.
Rob.

Speaker 2 That's a yes. I didn't say shit.

Speaker 1 No, you did because this is a podcast. That's bad journalism.
No, people. Yeah, you just gave me a yes in your eyes.

Speaker 2 I didn't say shit. Because if you, if it wasn't, you'd say no.
I'm about to onion back up, bro. No, no, no.

Speaker 1 We're not onioning. We are so fucking peeled down.
You're doing so good.

Speaker 2 You really have. You're good at this.
I will give you credit. You're pretty good at this.
Thank you.

Speaker 1 You're a hard one to crack. Like, I will say, everyone at home that's like, why aren't you asking this? I'm trying, but we have gotten progress.
Okay, so you did it in the room.

Speaker 1 Did you come like just on the sheets? Did housekeeping have to clean that up the next morning?

Speaker 1 Robert.

Speaker 2 You used my full name.

Speaker 1 That's some tea. You've said nothing.

Speaker 2 Fully.

Speaker 2 That is tea. I've said no words to what you're saying.

Speaker 1 Okay, did your, did any of the people on the island know what happened until she said?

Speaker 2 no one knew that was the funniest part I don't know how many conversations they put in but Miguel like I think it was literally the next day he was like he was like yeah bruv

Speaker 2 I just don't think that I could have sex in here like it's just not something I'm gonna do and I'm like dude me either bro and Cassie was sitting right next to me I was like I was like dude me either like especially like in the room with everyone could never do that he's like he's like yeah bruv like I mean, honestly, if someone did, I would rate it, but like, it's just something I wouldn't do.

Speaker 2 And I was like, I was like, yeah, bro. Couldn't be me.

Speaker 2 And I looked at Cassie and she was like,

Speaker 1 You're like, I feel light as a feather right now. God, you had been waiting for that.

Speaker 2 No, I wouldn't say I've been waiting for it.

Speaker 1 Not sex, I mean to like

Speaker 2 release.

Speaker 2 Okay, Daniela, one word.

Speaker 2 Um,

Speaker 2 I'm trying to

Speaker 2 uh, you can use a couple words: affectionate, live, strong, Andrea,

Speaker 2 understanding, Leah,

Speaker 2 lovely.

Speaker 2 Oh,

Speaker 1 now you got us all making like clips of that. Think about how many fan edits are going to be.
It's alliteration.

Speaker 2 No. Lovely, Leah.
Like, come on.

Speaker 2 Chill the fuck out.

Speaker 1 Oh, I want you guys to be together.

Speaker 2 Stop. You're just saying that because of the edits.
You watch the edits. They worked on you, and that's what you wanted.

Speaker 1 They did work on me. And I should know better.
I like know this shit can be.

Speaker 2 Come on.

Speaker 2 Come on. Okay, okay.

Speaker 1 If you had to go into the hideaway with one person from the season,

Speaker 1 right now, who would you go with?

Speaker 2 That's nuts.

Speaker 2 That's nutty.

Speaker 2 Ariana. Anyways, next question.

Speaker 1 She looked fucking amazing this evening.

Speaker 2 She looked so good.

Speaker 2 She was always wearing see-through clothes. I was like, what's up with her not really wearing clothes all the time?

Speaker 1 How many times did you guys think she was a bombshell walking in?

Speaker 2 Once, but also I thought she was an islander when we, because she was sitting there with them when we walked in. And I went around and shook everyone's hand.
I shook her hand.

Speaker 2 I was like, nice to meet you. I'm Rob.
And then I was like, oh, you're like, oh, my God. Yeah, it was really embarrassing.

Speaker 1 There's a clip of like Cordell at one point, and everyone's like, It's Ariana, it's Ariana. And Cordell comes out, he's like, Who the fuck is that?

Speaker 2 He's blind as a bat, he can't see shit. It's so funny.

Speaker 1 Serena and Cordell are so cute now. I love them.

Speaker 2 I love them both individually. Yeah, so it makes me easy to like them as a couple.
You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 2 Like, they had their struggles, they're really dope, but that's why I think they'll, they'll be good, I think, because like they had a hard time, they got through a lot, yeah. But, like,

Speaker 2 yeah, they're both dope.

Speaker 1 Okay, who was the best kisser of the season?

Speaker 2 Um, Andrea.

Speaker 1 You guys did seem like you had a good little

Speaker 2 yeah, I was Andrea.

Speaker 1 Um, okay, I need you to clear something up.

Speaker 1 During the body count game, your answer was mysteriously just completely skipped over. Really?

Speaker 1 They didn't air it. They didn't air it? So, what is your body count, Rob?

Speaker 2 It was probably because it was boring.

Speaker 1 What was it?

Speaker 2 25.

Speaker 1 Is that a fake number? No. That feels fake.
It's not fake. That feels fake.
It's not fake.

Speaker 2 It's not? No.

Speaker 2 It's a good estimation.

Speaker 2 Estimation. It's good.
It's 25.

Speaker 2 It's 26 now.

Speaker 1 Lucky number.

Speaker 2 Is it? Oh! No, it's not. 23 is a lucky number.
Fuck. Passed it.

Speaker 1 Is 23 your lucky number?

Speaker 2 When I go to the casino, I put it on red 23. Okay.

Speaker 1 Do you go to Vegas a lot?

Speaker 2 I used to when I lived in LA.

Speaker 1 You lived in LA?

Speaker 2 I mean, you could hardly say that. I was here for a year.
Why?

Speaker 2 Um, work. Work.
Yeah, which which one thunder.

Speaker 2 What? Just kidding, it was a joke. Wait, that was a joke.
So, Connor, yeah, yeah. So, so the picture they took for me for like my picture, everyone thought I looked like a porn star.

Speaker 2 And so, Connor came up with the name Rob Thunder. That was like me.

Speaker 1 You kind of are giving porn star right now. Like, I'm waiting for you to like gyrate on the chair.

Speaker 2 Not gonna happen, you're not gonna do that, though.

Speaker 1 Anyways, um, okay, what is the weirdest place that you've ever had sex?

Speaker 2 Airplane, airplane, maybe

Speaker 2 like, yeah, that's a good one. Library.
Library. Yep.
Shh.

Speaker 2 Everyone's reading.

Speaker 1 Well, clearly you can be quiet. No one knew in the villa that you had had sex.
Okay, are you actually taking a break from dating? I know you keep saying it.

Speaker 1 Like, you're thinking, like, you got to chill on that. Like, you're going to have everyone as friends.

Speaker 2 I just can't. I can't imagine, like, trying to get to know someone right now.
I can't imagine, like, giving someone my full attention and, like, actually being able to be present.

Speaker 1 Like, what are you thinking right now?

Speaker 1 You need need to like run home to alabama and like get in your bed and like no like get in the woods and like leave my phone at home i need to go in the creek and like yeah i'm not kidding like i really need that segment therapy when you pick up your first snake what are you gonna do to it kiss it no no oh have you ever kissed a snake yeah of course

Speaker 2 if it feels right

Speaker 1 if the mood is right if the mood's right we'll give them a little little cutie okay so you're ready to get back to the woods yep are you going to continue to be a snake wrangler are you gonna like start popping up are you gonna do the reality stuff are you gonna go back on another reality show like what do you think's the vibe i have no idea they like they've asked me a lot like what i want to do from this because like the show

Speaker 2 did the best it did it's number one it beat every other show in america yeah it was the number one streaming insane uh which i did not see coming so like yeah like

Speaker 2 i think i'm just keep catching snakes

Speaker 2 i mean like if i get a really good opportunity like Maybe like I said, I'll be like, ah, fuck it, whatever. Like, that's kind of how I live my life.
Like, that's why I went on Love Island.

Speaker 2 That's why that situation had. Like, I didn't apply for that.
You know, like, right.

Speaker 2 So, yeah, something that comes across, like, I would like survivor. Oh, I would do that.
Like, some shit like that.

Speaker 1 Are you going to see everyone for the reunion? Isn't there a reunion? There's a reunion coming up. Are you excited? Are you nervous?

Speaker 2 I would say I'm nervous. Why? I don't know.

Speaker 2 I don't know. Just when I think about that, the stress chemical in my brain comes out.

Speaker 1 What stresses you out?

Speaker 2 I'm procrastinating, thinking about it.

Speaker 1 No, we have, we're almost

Speaker 1 like basically the last question. I promise.
We have two more questions. Okay.

Speaker 1 So we'll take our time. What are you stressed about going to this reunion?

Speaker 2 Well, I feel like, I feel like,

Speaker 2 I don't know. I'm just interested to see who's still together and

Speaker 2 how everything is going for everyone. And just everyone together again.
Like, I think

Speaker 2 a lot of people went to the internet and maybe some things have been said that are not great about other people.

Speaker 2 And

Speaker 2 that's going to be a thing for sure i mean

Speaker 2 but you have been kind of not causing drama i'm just being honest like anything i've said i'll be like yeah i said that i meant that so you have nothing to be worried about now no no i just the situation in general

Speaker 2 yeah that's just gonna be like not just me no not with me i'm thinking about other people like i'm like how the is that gonna go like um

Speaker 1 why who do you okay will you tell me off camera who you're the most nervous about i'll tell you off camera Okay, okay.

Speaker 1 Okay, but you're going to go and you're going to be like drama-free because you kind of,

Speaker 1 what if Miguel and Leah aren't together?

Speaker 2 I'd be like, damn, sorry, guys.

Speaker 2 I'd be like, damn, that sucks. I was really rooting for y'all.

Speaker 2 Take their hands. Okay, Rob,

Speaker 1 closing statement. What would you like to say to the ladies of America who love or hate you?

Speaker 2 Hate is the closest emotion to love.

Speaker 2 I'm just kidding.

Speaker 2 Thank you.

Speaker 2 I don't know it's confusing i'm confused you know something i kind of saw myself like after obviously there was a lot of drama at the beginning but after that i just thought i was kind of a background character uh-huh like i didn't really feel in the show anymore um so i just was kind of like yeah whatever i'm just chilling and then i was surprised when i came out it was like a lot of buzz about everything about me and what do you think this episode is evoking like what do you think we're giving today i don't i blacked out i don't really know i could have blacked out too

Speaker 1 i was i feel like i had to ask you the same question over and over to get you to answer. And then we just kept going.
And I think we got a lot of answers, right?

Speaker 2 You did all the like, the stuff I thought, like all the like drama stuff. Right.
All that stuff.

Speaker 1 It's all good. Like, I'm, and I know you're not going to answer the questions of like, who did you not like in the villa? Would you answer that? No, exactly.
You're shaking your head.

Speaker 1 For those of you that are listening, driving to work, he's shaking his head.

Speaker 2 I mean, I mean, why would you want to talk about that? Why would you want to focus on the negative? I'm not.

Speaker 2 I know, I know. You're saying you're not.
I know.

Speaker 1 But you know that people are going to be be like, why the fuck did you guys not ask certain questions?

Speaker 1 Like, when, okay, the one move moment from movie night when you saw Leah making fun of you crying.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 1 And then she apologized, and it seemed super genuine. Yeah, it was great.

Speaker 2 Like, that, oh, yeah, that was okay.

Speaker 1 So, uh, how did you feel about that?

Speaker 2 So, so, after not leaving, after Andrea left, I was like kind of regretting it a lot. And that moment made me the most happy I was about staying.
That moment was

Speaker 2 so great for me, like, and for us, I thought, which I really liked.

Speaker 2 It gave us closure, and it was in front of everyone, which I loved because I'm not the kind of person that, like, I feel like there was weirdness in the villa about Leah and I, but I'm not the kind of person that's going to go to everyone and like give my side of the story, blah, blah, blah.

Speaker 2 Like, I'm just going to let my actions speak for themselves. Yeah.

Speaker 2 But in that moment, I was given the opportunity to talk with her and stuff. And I thought it was really good for us.
And then we had a great conversation after that.

Speaker 2 And yeah, we just like got back to being friends and like it was good.

Speaker 1 The heart rate challenge? Did you get a little excited?

Speaker 2 No.

Speaker 2 You did. I did not.

Speaker 1 You got excited for Leah.

Speaker 2 I got excited.

Speaker 1 Oh, you mean like a boner? No, I'm just saying like you got the most.

Speaker 2 The way you get a little excited? That's how you said it. You said it like a boner.
Like, don't make me wink.

Speaker 2 You thought it.

Speaker 2 You said it like that. You said you get a little excited? You winked at me.

Speaker 1 You got a little excited. Like, your heart rate went up the most for her.

Speaker 1 Crazy. That's why the fan edits are popping off, Rob.

Speaker 2 I don't, I just did it.

Speaker 1 No, I actually think Miguel is an awesome guy. And it's going to be interesting to see.
This is the fascination around the show. It's like, he, what, he lives in the UK, right?

Speaker 1 And she lives in Calabasas. It's going to be interesting for people.
And same with Aaron, right? Like, he doesn't, he's going to.

Speaker 2 He's moving to America.

Speaker 1 Where does Kayla live?

Speaker 2 Pennsylvania.

Speaker 1 Oh, my God. I'm from Pennsylvania.

Speaker 2 She's from a town of 6,000.

Speaker 1 No, no, no.

Speaker 1 Is Aaron going to move there?

Speaker 2 Truly not.

Speaker 1 No, they're going to move to L.A.

Speaker 2 Aaron will hate L.A.

Speaker 1 I don't know. Aaron seems to love those flashy lights.

Speaker 2 He will hate L.A. You think? I hate L.A.
That's why I moved. No offense.
It's great for other people. Too much concrete for me.

Speaker 1 Too much concrete. Yeah.
You need the woods. Okay, Rob, is there anything else you want to say? Like, do you feel like you got everything off your chest?

Speaker 2 I'm sure after this, I'm going to think of a million things. I'm like, damn, I should have said that.
But, like.

Speaker 1 Let's leave it for now. Yeah.
I'll see you in a year. We'll catch up.
We'll check in. See how you feel about it all.

Speaker 2 Whatever you need.

Speaker 1 Thank you, Rob, for coming on.

Speaker 2 Thank you.

Speaker 1 This was lovely. Yeah.
This was a nice time.

Speaker 2 It was good. I was like, it was good.

Speaker 1 Like, you didn't feel like, was it harder than you thought it was going to be?

Speaker 2 No.

Speaker 1 Was it more fun than you thought it was going to be?

Speaker 2 Yes.

Speaker 1 That's good. You came in here nervous.

Speaker 2 Yeah, definitely. I'm still nervous.

Speaker 1 Do you want to call Dave Portnoy?

Speaker 2 Yes. I love Dave Portnoy.

Speaker 1 Wait, you're a bar stool guy?

Speaker 2 Not really, but I like him. He's just like...
Cool. I know people hate him, but like, I like him.
Dave is Dave. He's just Dave.
I like genuine people. It was the same.
Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 I like genuine folk. I like people that are just themselves and they don't really give a fuck.

Speaker 1 Dave is honest. Dave is very honest.
Even if it hurts your feelings, he's honest.

Speaker 2 He's going to be honest. He's going to be Dave.
I like that about him.

Speaker 1 Okay, let's go call him.

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