905 - Roko’s Modern Life feat. Brace Belden (2/3/25)

1h 16m
Beautiful Brace Belden joins us to look at Trump’s tariff’s, possible annexation of Canada, halt on federal funding, and other breaking admin news. We also discuss New York Mag’s party report from the NYC MAGA scene, and Brace briefs us on what we should know about the murderous “Zizian” rationalists, and how they fit in among all the other people who’ve broken their brains online.

TrueAnon’s in-depth coverage of the Zizians here: https://pod.link/1474001390/episode/a778bfc3221464a5eff8d657bc89eb8a

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Transcript

All I wanna be is a jungle.

All I wanna be is a jumbo.

We ain't got a pressures.

All I wanna

Hello, friends.

It's Sunday, February 2nd, 2025, and this is your choppo.

Coming through a day early today, but we're joined by beautiful Brace Belden.

It's Felix and I today.

And I'd just like to start today.

You know, I woke up this morning and like the news feed was just all stuff about Luka Doncicz, the Luka trade to LA, and then the impending collapse of the AmeriKKKN Empire, thanks to Comrade Trump, who is fulfilling his promises to immediately start attacking the foundations of the global imperialist free trade regime.

And CIA cut out USAID.

It's cracker control.

AmeriKKKill, kill AmeriKKKN.

I guess I'll just start there.

I wish I knew something about tariffs or the economy, but what do we think about Comrade Trump's program of hyper-Argentinification for the American economy?

Well, I've been interested watching like the pro-Trump people talk about this.

I mean, not like, not Elon.

They're posting like, you're the man now, dog,

but there's a watermark on it that's like from at videos of moms dying.

Like the Silicon Valley guys, I've...

been paying attention to because a lot of this, it's gotten swept up by the Canada and Mexico tariffs.

But his first thing he did that probably made all the Jamie Dimon type guys think, oh my God, we're going to have to actually kill him this time,

was imposing tariffs on chips from Taiwan.

I've been interested in seeing all these guys rationalize that since then.

That Sean Maguire guy, who he looks like...

a heavily airbrushed Dennis Leary.

He's one of those VC guys who's always wearing a very cool leather jacket.

He said,

well, like, you know, these are probably, these are probably just going to be temporary, but they're like a really good opportunity for us to bolster,

you know, build up our industry in the way that

protectionist countries do, specifically with mining and manufacturing.

And if I know anything about manufacturing, it's that you can, you know, transition your manufacturing sector to being half your economy in like three weeks with no central planning and while you are like just destroying the government's ability to pay for anything, I mean, Trump, from what I read, Trump's logic behind it was just like about the Taiwan stuff was like, if we make it so expensive to build them in Taiwan and ship them here, then they'll just build them here, which is kind of peerless, right?

I mean, it might work.

My thing is like, I don't really get what tariffs are.

I'm going to be completely, I think I do understand them.

And then I'm like, surely I'm too stupid to understand this.

Like, there has to be some other like second second or third order effect that I'm not getting to, like, fully get the picture here.

But I, I do kind of like, Canada, I got to tell you, I am fucking

what, whatever we're going to do to them, we're going to do to them.

And it's, it's, it's time.

Like, there have been tensions, I think, among the Canadian and American people that have been rising for many years.

And if we're going to, if we're going to take out half their economy, I don't know what their economy is, frankly.

My view on the tariffs towards everybody is: I'm just like, let's see what happens.

You know what I mean?

I already have all the podcast equipment I need, I think.

And so I'm like, well, what, you know, how is it going to affect me?

I don't eat.

It's mostly someone that diet these days.

And that's made in America.

So I'm like, what are they going to do?

I mean,

I guess the goal here is the annexation of Canada and Canada is the 51st state.

But my question about that is.

Wouldn't that just be importing 20 to 30 million new Democrat rat rat party voters?

I mean, like, Canadians are not, they're not patriotic.

I mean, they always like, Canadians always say, like, oh, our politics are like getting infected by America.

And, like, we, we basically have MAGA guys there.

But when I look at Canadian politics, like, the most based guy in Canada will be making a speech where he's like, and, and you know what?

I think that I shouldn't have to celebrate Ramadan, but I will.

That's like the most, that's like the, not even the Geert Wilders of Canada.

That's like the Oswald Mosley.

It's a guy, it's a guy who's like,

I don't, I think that we should sing our anthem at hockey games.

I mean, my thing is, like, what do we do about the Quebec Quebecois once we take Canada?

Because, like, I got to be honest, they have been infinitely more tolerant of whatever is going on with that than I think any government would ever, in any other period in history would do.

Because it's like, okay, you are mostly Catholic and want to speak French.

And now every single sign in Canada has to be like half French.

I don't know, every single sign.

I mean, it seems like

I just like, and they treat them, you know, the guy, one of the,

one of like the main proponents of Quebecois nationalism, like, what's his fucking book?

He has some book with a, with a, a rude racial slur in the title.

Oh, where they, the classic political move of calling yourself the N-word in a political argument.

Yeah.

I love that move.

Uh, yeah, the white N-words of America.

The precocious autobiography of a Quebec, a Quebec terrorist.

And it's like,

yeah, I just am like, I would, I'm fascinated to see what that kind of culture clash is because we already have those guys.

We have Cajuns.

Like, we have our own weird Florida stuff or not Florida stuff, excuse me.

Louisiana stuff.

And they're fine there.

They're not like everybody else has got to do like a little bit of what we do.

The Quebecois have had it too good for too long.

I'm not even saying that.

They can keep having it good.

But I'm like, if we take over Canada, we have to deal with that now.

And I don't think that America can handle that.

I mean, I used to kind of think that until we went to Montreal.

And that, like, it's the most beautiful city in North America.

Yeah, it's a good case.

It's like clearly, I don't think it's working for the rest of Canada because Toronto is Toronto is like if the Sears department chain was a city.

It's a great example.

Really, just really awful.

I was, the moment I got into Toronto, they gave me one of those like

sort of glossy, cheaply printed coupon books

where I opened it up and it was like, you know, buy a house for $35 American.

And I just, I threw it on the ground.

But in my like Montreal, gorgeous.

I thought like whatever the fuck they're doing, I really don't get it because they're not speaking actual French.

It's some weird mutant form of it.

George Saint-Pierre, maybe the greatest MMA fighter of all time.

The last MMA fighter who isn't openly

praising Hitler and a rapist.

Montreal is beautiful.

I just, I think it works.

I'm all for it.

I got to say, I'm harsh on them for their separatism, but I got to tell you, I've been to a lot of Canada and Montreal is really, that is a first-class city.

I can't really say, my view on the rest of Canada is if we integrated it into America, it would, it would be, if we just made it, kept it one state, it would kind of be one of our shittier states.

If we split it up, we'd have like four of our shittier states and then like BC and Quebec would be like all right states.

Yeah.

I think Montreal should be maintained as sort of like Hong Kong, like a special economic zone where you can speak French and be in a nice city.

And then everything else of it, just, you know, I don't know, tar sands,

cold.

But so yeah, Canada and Mexico, like two of our biggest trading partners,

you know, like trade war.

I mean, like I said, I wish I knew more about economics.

We'll see how this,

I mean, the thing I've noticed is that like during the campaign, the argument was

Americans will only reap the benefits of these tariffs and prices will not, like, you know, the, the, the tariffs will not be passed on to the consumers we'll actually be paying less for less for things at the grocery store or elsewhere and i have noticed that in the first week or so the argument has subtly shifted to uh yes americans will suffer but it'll be good for us it'll it like it's going to build character i mean it's a hard hard thing to argue against because i i guess if i was taking power i'd probably be forced to say a very similar thing but yeah i i it has been so funny to see them like really change tack very quickly and i think it's because kind of nobody really knows exactly what's going to happen until it happens.

And I think like a lot of Trump stuff, there's like oftentimes, I think in the first term, especially, you hear like a lot of like catastrophizing, they're like, kind of nothing would really happen.

And I am generally like a nothing's going to happen kind of guy.

In this case, I'm like, something might happen.

But I don't know.

I mean, it's funny to hear like Sean McGuire talk about that kind of shit.

Sean McGuire, who has somehow become like a national political figure.

If you work at Sequoia Capital in any kind of leadership or especially partner position, you guys, didn't they give Sam Bakeman Freed like all this money because they saw him play in League of Legends a bunch?

Like,

you are stupid.

You are dumber than a regular fucking person.

If a regular, if you got any asshole off the street and showed them that.

Poor scene freak and was like, look how good at video games he is.

He's also fucking good at money.

They would be like, he seems like he's, you know, a little, he's like simple.

And they would, they wouldn't give him millions of dollars.

Sean McGuire and his friends are like, that's a fucking great idea.

If that, if I had done something that spectacularly and publicly stupid, I would kill myself.

These people have no honor.

Well, yeah, I mean, that is sort of the story of all the all the guys who like became MAGA guys in, you know, 2023.

All of the, the common thread with all of them is that they did something incredibly embarrassing when they were like regular libs.

I've said this a lot that all of modern politics right now is a reaction and counterreaction to 2020.

Part of what that means is that I would say like half of the new prominent

based conservatives are guys who as recently as 2020,

they ran some like bullshit tech firm and they were like, um today what snapchat is honoring the contributions of black americans because they were afraid the deray would yell at them And then, you know, years later, they're like, we were living under tyranny.

And it's like, you didn't have to do that.

You didn't have to give money to Sam Bankman-Freed and like talk about how great effective altruism is.

You just did that.

And now you're embarrassed and

you're becoming based at 60.

I mean, there's really nothing more destructive than the wrath of a former he-him.

I mean, these guys are really, it's crazy.

I I mean, the Zuckerberg thing in particular was very difficult to watch.

Felix, let me ask you this because you take a lot of HDH.

Zuckerberg, do you think this is because of, do you think he's juicing in some way and that's changed his brain?

Or do you think he's servile, kind of like a sub-species of man that is more like in personality or spiritually, like worm-like, where he's sort of just cozying up to the present sort of regime?

He sees which way the winds are blowing.

If Zuckerberg is doing HDH, he's doing a very tasteful amount, which I would commend him on.

I've actually, out of all these guys, I am the biggest fan of one, Dr.

Dick Zuckerberg.

Like, I loved when he was like,

he sunk like something like $200 billion into Habo Hotel for Facebook.

Yeah.

And incinerated.

like $1.5 trillion.

And they were like, stop doing this.

We'll kill you.

And he's like, no, I think it's, I think Facebook's better than ever.

He was going to fight Elon and Elon was like, I'm, I'm a trained street fighter.

I don't know what I'll do.

I'll just black out and kill him.

Never did it.

But this new thing where he's like going on Rogan and being like, I've all like, I actually knew Groiper when I was in college.

It's very lame.

You can tell with Zuckerberg the exact moment when he stopped referring to clothes as clothing and started calling them fits.

And it's horrible to see.

Oh, my God.

The 30-pound t-shirts he's fucking wearing.

My view on that is I think they ran out of like signature looks for guys.

And like his design, his whatever like person, his like cruel angular gay guy that he probably pays who has like a flock of similar but smaller ones kind of around him was probably like, we're going to go back to basics.

Just the t-shirt because you look incredible.

Your body's incredible.

So it's just the t-shirt.

You know what?

There's a new type of men's fashion that you see, especially in these like recent converts to conservatism.

It's

they're getting the swag of a white Latino.

Yeah.

That's what I think happened.

I don't think it's HGH.

I think he went to Turkey to get the white Latino surgery.

It's the surgery that allows you to wear like really tight jeans.

Yeah, you just, you walk in there and you're like, give me the white Latino.

And they're like, what does that mean?

And you're like, fucking Google it.

Figure, what do you think?

Look it up.

He does.

The hair, the hair is, is very, he needs to dye it black.

I think a lot of people are betting on a divorce coming up but i think that i don't i don't think that's in the cards i think that he's i i i i'm i'm not picking that up and i can usually smell that far from from far off i think chan's sticking by him with bill gates it was obvious he was getting a divorce because he like did that interview where he's like um i don't know we should like let trump back on twitter and you knew like you knew that's because like his liberal wife was like i'm you know i'm gonna take half your money and i'm i'm gonna do what um fucking steve Jobs's widow did and give $7 billion

to the Wimex and Puppetry Foundation.

I'm going to pay for articles for the next 300 years.

With Zuckerberg, I get the sense that

they're like Usha and JD, where it's just like they're riding together for whatever disgusting thing they're doing at any given moment.

I've seen the world

done it all.

I'd my cake now.

I am angry.

Well,

you brought up sort of like the new frontiers in fashion among right-wing guys and gals, guys and dolls.

But I mean, I think that's a good segue into

the big New York magazine article about the sort of young Republican gala in New York City.

And, you know, like there, there's, you know, there's a white Latino strain of it too, but I think a lot of this article is basically kind of people who

wish they lived in the Great Gatsby, not the novel, the Boslerman movie.

And, you know, like, and

I think here, like, you know,

this story got a lot of ink, but

I'm just going to go into it here.

This is The Cruel Kids Table by Brock Collier for the Intelligencer.

I'm going to read here.

It says, the party is at Butterworth's,

a new dimly lit bistro that became the hotspot for the right in part of because one of its investors is Rahim Qassam, once the editor-in-chief of the UK edition of Breitbart.

On the menu are theme cocktails with names like American Carnage and the second term.

In the middle of the room is, in a hip-hugging emerald ball gown and a hefty string of pearls, is Tanya Prosybek, the wife of Jack Prosybek, a far-right activist and one-time pizzagate pusher.

She has just arrived from one of the president's three official inaugural balls and is telling me about how splendid her night has been.

She even met Mike Tyson and Conor McGregor.

She's surprised, she admits, that despite the horrible traffic, the below-freezing weather, and the general pandemonium, it's been a no-drama weekend.

I haven't heard anyone complain, she says, almost shrieking with glee.

It's such a positive vibe.

So,

what do we make of the new sort of right-wing party scene reporting?

You know, it's like, imagine being at a party with Mike Tyson and Connor McGregor.

It's such a positive vibe, is how I would feel about that.

Yeah, absolutely.

Haven't like there always been like sort of like tacky young finance guys on an executive track and like you know Zaro-wearing girls who go to these things.

It doesn't seem like a new phenomenon is what I'm saying.

Yeah.

It seems like they're brag, like

this thing where like people brag about having a social engagement is very weird.

Everyone does it now.

It reminds me exactly of the David Shore article.

where he's like, I actually have sex.

Those pictures, man, of Sean McKelwey in the hammock surrounded.

By the way, Sean, if you're listening to this, I've said this a million times in many public places.

Please hit me.

Tell me everything because you are unfortunately probably going to go to prison at some point for something because

you are a criminal.

But yeah, the David Shore party pictures, it's very similar in the kind of reporting.

It's a bit more like meh about them, though.

Yeah.

I think something I've noticed is a trend on the right wing for kind of since like the 2016 meme magic stuff is uh is there's a lot of these sort of like right wing accounts on twitter that are like i i don't know like i guess you would call it like kind of pinterest but like fascist pinterest or whatever and they'll be like uh swedish blonde girl in the mountains nationalism or whatever and it'll just be like a picture of like an ad from like the 80s or whatever of like a woman in in in you know some ski uniform and like they'll have these like it'll be i think it's like really identical to like whatever like fashion tumblers or like anorexia tumblers, I think is kind of more like, and it's interesting because a lot of them latch onto Lana Del Rey, I think in a very similar manner to like, it, it's almost like one-to-one of kind of what I imagine a certain kind of like kind of sad creature's like existence on the internet is of like, oh, this is like, I love this aesthetic.

Ooh, like an old, an old watch or like old money aesthetic or old this whatever aesthetic.

But like now it's so, I mean, the, the, the, the permeability between online and offline is so weak now.

The veil has been kind of, um, you know,

it's, it just basically doesn't exist that like a lot of, a lot of, I think what I see is people essentially like pretending like they're acting like they think adults should act like a party and holding the kind of party that they think adults should have because of like this mismatch of like both like fantasy, like power projection and like, you know, sort of just the idle daydreaming you do after maybe you like consume a piece of media you like um and it's weird because it i think it mirrors a broader trend in society where like kind of nobody seems to like be in charge and like know what's going on and everyone's kind of acting out the roles that they think they should play rather than actually inhabiting those without this sort of like it's it's a very neurotic way to approach things and and i think that like especially i mean the 1920s i think hold a certain fascination for a lot of people me i don't care i i

i have a very modern face so if I ever wear anything like a tuxedo, you know,

I am the, you know, I'm the product of,

I guess you might call me dysgenic if you're one of these people.

But

it makes it feel like a pity, I think, for a lot of people because I think everybody just really wants to be happy.

And like, you know, it's the same way like that people sort of like, you know, whenever you come across like an internet account that's like some, you know, fucked up 20-year-old woman's like thin spo crazy shit with pictures of like, you know, whatever the mentally,

you know, sort of not all there actress Ariana Grande,

like pictures of her or whatever, you're like, oh, I feel bad for you, but like, ugh.

The same thing is mirrored on the right wing.

And it makes me, I don't know, it makes me feel a certain pity.

In this, I thought it was very strange because they like,

it was, I saw this sort of like, I try, you know, I try to kind of ignore these things, but I saw this sort of strange back and forth where people are pointing to these pictures and be like, look how they're lit.

They're actually, did you know that New York Mag is actually making fun of these people?

And then right-wing people are like, look at this chick with big cheeks.

She's the most beautiful white woman in history.

And my thing is, I'm like, these just look like people.

They look like normal people.

I mean, like, I wouldn't say they look like ugly, but like, I mean, yeah, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's this kind of like, it's this notion that like right-wing people are the most beautiful people on earth.

Right-wing Donald Trump supporters are the most gorgeous women on on the planet.

And it's like, you know, like, I didn't see anyone that in that article that looked like really freakish or ugly.

They just looked like normal people to me.

Well, you know, the woman, I'm looking at it now.

The woman above and to the left of the woman that the right-wing people were like all in love with looks pretty much one-to-one like Amy Schumer.

I don't think she looks like Amy Schumer.

I think she looks like Amy Schumer.

But New York Magazine did the same thing to the Cruel Kids Party that Time Magazine did to OJ when he got arrested.

They sort of like heightened the contrast to make them look darker.

But just to return to the articles here, someone said here,

everywhere across the Capitol, people are comparing invitations and wondering, how did that person get into that party?

As usually follows that question, why wasn't I invited?

As one 28-year-old conservative influencer, Xavier de Rousseau, tells me, it's Republican Coachella.

Donald Trump is our Beyonce.

He kept his weekend organized on a color-coded spreadsheet in intervals of 30 minutes.

I mean, like, that's the way people used to attend parties in the grand old era of elegance and wealth.

Like at a music festival, everyone's arms are covered in wristbands.

Have you ever been to Comic-Con?

A Brit named James Layfield, who is promoting his AI software that benefits Elon Musk's Department of Government Efficiency, asked me outside Butterworth.

There's a lot of love here.

Over the weekend, Curtis Yarvin stopped by.

There are

crypto nerds and influencer girlies

and reaching MAGA converts and gays of all stripes, plus your standard fare Rogan-listening bros.

A few of them would call themselves Republican lest they be tarred rhino.

They refer to their political affiliation almost always as the movement.

Some are the black sheep at their own family Thanksgivings, yet they project confidence that they're the relevant ones now.

Many are hot enough to be extras in the upcoming American Psycho remake.

The set's most visible political stance is a reaction to what it sees as the left's puritanical obsession with policing language and talking about identity.

A joke about Puerto Ricans or eugenics or sleeping with Nick Fuentes could throw a pack of smokers outside Butterworth's into a giggle fest.

Pause.

There are many things in the world that could be considered interesting.

This is not one of them.

It just, I think, you know, I feel like I read this article four years ago when it was Deplorable.

And I guess they're like, they're a little more upwardly mobile than the Deplorable people, but it's the same idea.

You know, we're talking about the same things here.

I do like, you know, and this would be, God forbid, another another article coming to this world but if there needs to be another article this would be a good article every time there's like an article or like you know a viral political thing uh right-wing guys are like oh there's a new woman

i've seen like you know 12 of these things happen in the last six months I know they get a new hawk to like yeah it's serious there's there's one lady I love this lady I can't remember what her name is but she went viral for like saying the the N-word or something.

I think it was like

Lily Phillips or some shit.

She's amazing.

I love her.

She's been trying to recapture the magic.

And to me, it's almost like if Hawk to a girl tried to like come up with a new euphemism for sucking dick in a, you know, normal, but kind of crazy way every time she did like a thing, like, you know, she was like,

you know, sit and span or whatever.

Like, she tried to like come up with a new catchphrase.

This woman was just like, just gonna, like, she's, she's finding out.

She's like having to like Google sub-races or like extinct like uh competitors to the neanderthal in order to be racist against them and you don't have the magic honey i love her like if she was like 10 more self-aware she would realize that she could be like the right wing lena dunham but she just she's so she like so kind of like a lib is like i'm a hot girl you know

and it's so like i saw her she was um she posted some selfie and uh some griper guy replied to her a guy from my community.

Um, he was like, um, you look like a fucking Jew.

And she was like, I agree.

Jews look like weak women.

And it was just like, oh,

can I call you guys' attention?

I posted a

website for

Xavier.

I don't remember, what was his last name?

Xavier DuRosse in the in the chat here.

And I want you guys to look at, first of all, he's drinking an Erewhon smoothie with over-the-ears noise cancellation headphones on in his picture.

But his fucking,

his, his merch, this is a right-wing influencer, like quoted at the sort of the top of this article.

His merch is a shirt that has an Erewhon smoothie.

It's $45.

And on the back, it says, walk with me.

And then a red, the one that sold out, $45

Donald Jaquan Trump red hat.

I don't understand.

Is this some kind of like, I don't know, I don't know.

I guess it's just like, I'm black, but it's that sucks kind of thing.

Oh, yeah,

they love that.

Did you say that?

They love that thing where it's like, Donald Trump's a freaking black guy.

Yes.

Hey, Donald Trump got arrested.

He's one of the brothers.

Yeah, he's a fucking black guy.

He's always in court and he has money.

He's like, bling.

Hillary Clinton has killed hundreds of of people and has never been to court.

I'm sorry.

Like, Donald Trump's a bitch because he got arrested.

Clinton ate with human Abedine, allegedly, is said to have eaten a baby.

No jump time.

Nothing.

Sorry.

I like, yeah, I like people who don't get caught.

I'm looking, yes.

Did you scroll over to the $65 hoodie that has the star of David and the phrase, Zionism is demure?

Like, this is all like, this is all TikTok references.

What is

smoothie walk with me?

Yeah, Zionism is the mirror.

That's like Blake Flayton shit.

Yeah, these are the same fucking people.

Everything.

Blake Flaytons are everywhere, dude.

And they're everywhere.

It's insane.

We, I, I, it's, it's, we should make politics only practice.

Like, guys who look like Chris Christie and above should only be able to practice politics.

Like, and because in my head, Tammany Hall could only fit like three guys because politics guys back then were so fucking big.

And now you've got all these skinny little twinks.

Every political ideology.

This guy is like, I kind of respect it, frankly, because he only has a merch.

His entire website is just contact and merch.

That's it.

And I'm like, I don't really know if that's an influencer, but

God bless him.

It's just, it's insane to me.

Like because Zionism is demure.

Like, what is the difference between that and Kamal is brat?

Nothing.

Everything is brat now.

But that's done.

That's done.

Now we're fucking based.

Now we're racist.

Are you guys, have you guys become,

we were thinking of becoming conservative or liberal i think we're doing liberal now but i'm saying this you guys got to become conservative

well yeah i mean like i i'm i'm a non-political griper right now yeah yeah i just think the frog is cute but i could i think i could get into it you know why not i watch i love i mean i watch nick fuentes every night but it's like watching king of queens like i don't want to become like a ups driver or whatever like i'm just watching for the information

i'm just watching to get information.

I mean, I would like to, I mean, I think in my conservative turn, I don't really like the 1920s aesthetic.

I think I'm going to throw parties that are like Oklahoma, the musical-themed, and like the

conservatives like me, we can be the cowboy, and the libs can be the farmer.

But the farmer and the cowman shouldn't be friends.

But we'll have sort of like a square dance style aesthetic at our parties.

We'll be, you know, gingham skirts, things of that nature.

I think that's a potentially potentially fertile ground for aesthetics you have to like you know pick something and you know be like uh that nationalism like my thing would be um you know base hunter nationalism we love the song dota so your your thing could be i don't know you know michael man nationalism some shit like that

yeah i'm thinking of like I'm hoping with Cash Patel getting in there, who I love, who I adore.

I'm hoping that when Cash Patel gets in there, first of all, we reopen the investigation that Shirley existed and also was Shirley squashed into Avici's death.

We look into that guy from either Lincoln Park or the other band.

I can't remember.

I tried so fucking Chester.

Was that Lincoln Park?

Yes,

Mr.

Chester Bennington's suicide.

Oh, reopen that.

Anthony Bourdain.

I saw a new theory from these guys that I'd never seen before.

That Anthony Bourdain saw Adam Schiff eat a baby at Chateau Marmont in fucking 2017 or whatever.

That he saw.

And it was crazy because the whole, I guess there's like some like online thing about the standard hotel because that lady went crazy and drowned herself there.

And like in like the QAnon style thing, it was like, you know, the Chateau Marmont, which is near the standard hotel.

I'm like, I don't think it is.

And I looked at it.

It's like completely across LA.

But like,

it was, I mean, we're back in like 2018.

It had like 50,000 fucking likes on Twitter, and it was, there was people beseeching Cash to reopen it.

And I'm saying, Cash, first of all, Anthony Bourdain did not die.

He is still among us.

He is alive.

He is inspiring us to eat food all the time.

But Cash reopened the cases into all these people because they were making a documentary that they did not want out there.

And they had to kill Avici so the documentary didn't get made.

Reopen it, please.

I love the, like, I love this theory.

I've seen this too.

And it's like such a disparate group was working in the documentary it was chris cornell avici chester bennington and anthony bourdain they were all like let's produce a documentary about how hillary clinton like ate this baby and the as soon as they met all killed uh all killed i do i do agree with you anthony bourdain he is alive And he, it's, it's, it's going to be like an amazing, uh, you know, the liar style moment when it's the trial against Hillary and Huma for killing him.

And he shows up to testify when he gets on the stand and he's like, take life fucking seriously.

Get an appetizer.

Sit on a stool.

Listen to the stooges.

Wear a shirt.

Can you imagine Sean fucking

Hillary's about to win the trial because fucking all the judges are Democrats?

And they're like, the prosecution is like, we're all out of witnesses.

Like, oh, no, they all got killed or something.

And all of a sudden through the fucking the courtroom comes Anthony Bourdain and he's dressed like Sean McGuire and he fucking gets up there and he lights up a fucking You know camel wide which like still he can still buy them because he's been hanging out with the coolest guys in the fucking universe the coolest like Vietnamese guy ever and he's like

Yeah, I saw Adam shift fucking take a bite of the foot and I know you know I'll eat anything You know I'll fucking eat anything.

And he opens up a beer and he's like,

that was too far for me.

And I said, hey, why don't you put a little barbecue sauce on that?

And he looked at me and his eyes blinked sideways like a lizard.

He said, get the fuck out of here.

I'm going to tell Hillary Clinton what you did, which was not eat the fucking baby.

And then, bam,

Hillary's gone.

She's gone.

My question about that is, where has she been?

Where is her leadership?

We've got David Hogg, speaking of people who were, you know, bad childhoods.

And I'm not talking about the motherfucking school shooting because, you know, you could tell something went on with that boy.

David Hoggs, you see that he's going to become a national political figure once again yeah what is he like the assistant to the dnc or something like that what is that what job is that

vice vice dnc chair is like

like sub nothing that is like being the intern for a dog walker that is

i would yeah he's that is ignominious it is sick to see the democrats to be trying to like create like golem create a like left-wing joe rogan or like try to connect connect the youth and having you know that hog is like fucking kids go crazy for hog because he's ready to be like you know what this bill sucks ass

you see that I'm sure I know you guys I'm sure you've talked about they had these like four little twink guys that they were trotting out during the fucking

oh yeah oh yeah yeah

they were all named like Charlie I love those kids.

They all sound like when Phil, you know how sometimes, and you know, and I want to say this right now, you know, I love Filipino people and you know that I politically are very involved over there.

But sometimes you meet a Filipino and their name is like Walter Rogerson, you know,

whatever.

Yeah.

It's like a sweet,

like, like

Sugar Bear, Rodriguez,

all named like Filipino guy names.

It's incredible.

And it's made me, and I've thought, and I've thought a lot about their message.

And this is my thing now.

You guys are fucking fucked up.

I'm liberal now.

Because liberalism, everyone wants to get away from it.

Everyone's like, we're not doing that anymore.

Like, we're going to do another thing.

Not me.

I'm going fucking.

I am a Democrat.

I'm, in fact, becoming one of the biggest Democrats probably ever.

And every, every era, every era, the beginning of the party to now, I'm incorporating all of it.

Kinsey Crat.

Well, I'm just saying, every, it's a big tent in every era of history, which I haven't looked into yet, but I'm sure they're crazy.

You know, I'm trying to just bring understanding to this country.

But the MAGA party,

I want to say this about that.

You can't do party reporting because it makes you sound, if you're mad about a party, it makes you sound like an ass.

It makes you sound like a bitch.

Yeah.

And I just want to get to the crux of the party reporting article here.

It's this paragraph here.

It says,

this is like, she says, recounting her time at one of the balls, a woman tells me she jumped the velvet rope into the VIP section, like a literal Mexican.

She then lets out a cackle.

This is the posture that has attracted newcomers to the cause.

Six months into Biden being president, I was like, I can't fucking do this anymore, says a 19-year-old New Yorker who once quite literally had blue hair and attends Mary Mountain Manhattan, which he describes as 75% women and 23% trannies.

He had supported Biden, but I hate watching the things that I say.

I took a much farther horseshoe around this time.

Later, a former Bernie supporter who looks like the most Bernie supporting person one could imagine with long curly hair and a plaid shirt told me the same.

He wanted the freedom to say faggot and retarded.

And I mean, there was a similar quote in a Financial Times article the other week about an investment banker who is like discussing the sort of the feeling of joy and triumph that comes with being able to call people retarded and pussies again.

You could do that.

Yeah.

When can you stop saying pussy?

I got yelled at for saying pussy, and you know what happened?

I didn't even get fired from being the vice chair of the Groiper movement.

But a couple of things, it says the 19-year-old who says, six months into Biden's president, is like, I can't fucking do this anymore.

Like, you're 19 years old.

Like, you're not paying taxes.

Maybe he's Biden's kid, man.

Or maybe he's a fucking grandson or whatever.

Maybe he was the baby in Frazzledrip.

Oh, wait, hold, hold on.

I just thought of another cool thing Anthony Bourdain could say at his trial.

What?

When Hillary asked me if I wanted to watch this shit called Frazzledrip, I said, Bitch,

is that a new mocha frappa, whatever?

Give me me a fucking coffee, you idiot.

Give me a coffee, Brad.

Give me an espresso, you cunt.

Give me a, you know what?

Give me a black coffee, or as you might call it, Hillary, a super predator coffee.

Oh, yeah.

Oh, God.

I can't wait for this trial.

Dude, Bourdain is going to fucking, we need Bourdain, dude.

We need, you know what?

We need a liberal Anthony Bourdain to come back.

We need liberal, because that's the only thing that can defeat Republican Joe Rogan is fucking badass liberal Anthony.

When Anthony Bourdain was alive and on tv o bungler won ohio and florida by like 7 p.m well because i've never heard of other racists before before tony and like when he showed me that there's not only a whole

he went to all kinds of places and i because i thought there was just three there was there was there was white people

and then he went to asia and there's not only asians but there's a different kinds of them i was like and they have food i was crazy looking at they drink beer like you or me um it's it's it's insane insane.

And like, I would never believe he committed suicide because you know who did that?

It was Hitler, famously.

And Tony is, I'm sorry.

No, no friend of Barack Obama would do anything like that.

Yeah, you know, they want the freedom to say retarded.

And

let me give you a hint of how I've been able to get away with saying it this entire time.

I went to special ed high school

where people called you that when you went to regular high school and you had to go to the public high school that was for other kids who couldn't fucking read.

What up, I'm Jared.

I'm 19 and I never fucking learned how to read.

So I can say it.

People got mad at you for saying stuff a lot in public and what I just did was just ignored them

because I

can.

But I think a lot of people who worked in white collar jobs, this is like a major thing that they have to deal with that I just don't understand.

Like a lot of things that people have been, and I'd say this, I'd say this, you know, with full understanding and love for every single human being ever born in history, including up to the ones in the future.

Uh, I love everybody, but I don't, have never worked in an office.

And I think working in an office makes you go like a crazy person.

Yeah, yeah, that is.

I think it does.

I, I, you know, I think that's it.

Um, you know, to us, woke is like, it's fine.

It means NBC just does a different type of show.

But if you work in an office, I think woke might mean that you have to like, you have to like take a class where it's like, you know, don't go up to someone and be like, let me guess, Ty.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah.

And it's, you know, I see both sides of the argument.

Most people don't have to take those classes.

But the fucked up thing is, there are people who take those classes and they're like, well, there you, I didn't know I wasn't supposed to do that.

There are a lot of stupid people out there.

I think, you know, we need to like gamify woke.

If there was a Duolingo bird to teach people this stuff, that would be fantastic.

One more little thing here.

It says, conservatives used to be uptight, but the left has become the funless, sexless party.

Not the right, now the right, not that the right is the party of sex necessarily.

We have fun, says a 31-year-old influencer, Arianne Wexler.

What does a conservative even look like anymore?

And I guess, like, I don't know, is it a revelation that conservatives like do drugs and have sex?

Like, does that come as a surprise to anyone?

Matt Gates.

Yeah.

I mean, they love to party.

Conservatives love to party,

love doing sex and drugs, just like just like everyone else.

But I guess, like, my concluding thought on the sort of right-wing scene reporting here, I have to credit Ben Mora of seeking derangements for this observation about the New York magazine cover.

And that is, what do you think the J6 defendants think about these like rich kids getting all the credit for the new like sort of right-wing cultural turn.

I mean, like, if you're, if you're like a diabetic 60-year-old who, you know, like, uh, had, had a mild heart attack walking up the steps at the Capitol, only to spend the next four years in prison for, you know, shitting in a garbage can or something like that, or stealing Nancy Pelosi's pen.

I mean, what do you, like, it must feel pretty shitty to see these, like, you know, you know, like these, uh, these, these, these scenes just swoop in and just get anointed like the new cultural, the avatar of Donald Trump's America.

And then that's not, I mean, A, like, that's not new.

Like, the Republican Party has always had the jug hooters and the, you know, Great Gatsby vibes set.

And one has always thought the other is like trash and, you know, beneath them.

But on the other hand, all the J6 people who got pardoned, they seem like the day they got out of jail, they instantly like drank a bottle of Nyquil and like drove headfirst into into a police station.

And even if even the ones who haven't like killed themselves or killed someone else or

molested,

you know, did the classic low IQ move of going to Starbucks and like trying to get like download CP.

That's a big one for these types of people.

Even the ones that are freed for the time being.

Do you think they're reading New York Mag?

Probably not.

But if they are, I don't know.

I think they would be like, these seem like great young people.

I'd love a wife like that.

She wouldn't be talking about all this fucking woke shit.

But if they ever met, it would be like the, you know, the, when Borat tried to put Pam Anderson in the bag.

You know, I think, I think, I think part of it is, is funny because, like, in my head, like, this is what been like, like, frat guys have been like for like forever, right?

Like,

Bush, whatever, 84 t-shirt and like a Budweiser and like slurs or whatever.

And like, but it's funny because no matter if you're like a left-wing New York person or a right-wing New York person, you always, everyone always has to pretend that like New York discovered it.

And so like now it is like a real thing.

And so like, that's what a lot of this feels like is like, I don't know where all these people are from, but like a lot of this sort of feels like New York Mag is like, look, like, Republicans are fucking partying again.

And isn't that fucking crazy?

They're in suits.

And I'm like, this just looks like, I think, I think literally the woman that these people are obsessed with is just like a southern sorority lady.

Like these people have existed the entire time.

But like, it's, it's interesting because I think even people sort of from the, let's say, the periphery in America, like still seek this, like, even if it's negative, they still seek this acceptance from like the New York Libtard cultural core.

That's right.

Because unfortunately, the Libtard, you never escape the Libtard in your head.

It fucking sets the rules.

It's like, even if you hate them, even if you're like, fuck them,

they're fucking drats or whatever, like blah blah blah.

You still want them to look at you and to acknowledge you, even if it's in a negative way.

That's what it is.

NYC continues to be number one.

Now, so that's one scene that's very much feeling itself right now.

But I'd like to transition now

for the rest of the show.

Brace, I just want a brief dossier from you on another scene that's feeling itself right now.

That's the scene of computer science rationalists who have formed a cult and started killing people on both coasts of this country.

I'm speaking, of course, about the Zizians.

Brace, I looked at, I know you and Truman just did like a two-part episode on the Zizians, but like I was just trying to do my own research on this and figure out what they're about.

And as best I could tell, it's sort of this incomprehensible philosophy, like a totally incomprehensible philosophy that I think is, if there's any intent behind it, it's designed to drive you insane.

But it basically is about good and non-good moral codes and dark gods.

Am I sort of nibbling around the edges of this?

And could you talk about the people they've murdered and perhaps why?

So to i want to start by addressing your your claim that this is incomprehensible because i i'm forced to agree with you and i feel sort of like you know when like a new like a new young gangster or like young guy who thinks he's gangster encounters an old real school old school like real mafia type who sort of shows him what it means to be like a gentleman gangster and like puts him down for me that's like i thought i knew like what autistic was and i was like okay like i've been to like a dsn meeting like i understand like what's going on i lived in San Francisco for a long time.

A lot of, and I thought I got it.

And then I got into this.

And I was like, oh, fuck.

Like, I am so outclassed here that like, I can barely understand what's going on.

So, but I do because there is essentially like this, this.

It's called, it's called functional decision theory.

I'm really.

That's just, that's just one part of it.

It inserts an apacausal theory of decisions where you do not make choices between outcomes, but choices between strategies.

It is genuinely like people, it is like, it is, it reads like the deep seek, explain your thinking kind of fucking AI search when you like, like read these people's thoughts because they do not like, it's, I'm, I'm trying to be really gentle here, but like they all basically come from a cult itself, this like Miri rationalist movement, Machine Intelligence Research Institute, Miri, and then like the greater kind of like intellectual milieu that like it comes from in the East Bay, which involves a lot of

like Ayala.

You know Ayala?

Yeah, of course.

Yeah, yeah, the

girl who measures your poop and all that stuff.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Who's always like, would you have sex with one kid or kill two kids?

Like, it's all shit like that.

Yeah, yeah.

No, I think the thing about Ayala is that, like, she always seems to be posing these like moral and philosophical quandaries that, yeah, do seem to box you into this, like, yeah, it would be okay to have sex with a kid.

Yes, that is, that is, well, interesting you say that because that's where some of this comes from.

So, like, that, to me, like, to you or me or anybody, you would just be like, this is stupid.

It's like the trolley problem.

Like when I see a trolley, when I heard about that, I was like, I don't know.

I guess I kill less people.

I try to.

I don't know.

But these people like see that and they're like, oh, fuck, everything's different in my mind.

Like, oh, no, I never thought of that before.

And it drove them crazy.

And so these people.

basically come from this like quasi cult like group that believes that in AI that we have to do AI safety, which I believe in.

I actually am sort sort of probably, I do agree with them on some things that I can parse where I'm like, yeah, we should blow up all AI and make it like, you know, treat it like the equivalent of biological weapons and send out kill teams to destroy it all throughout the country or excuse me, the world.

But, um,

but they also sort of believe that we're going to make God that's AI.

Yeah.

And like they're afraid of it.

And that also drove them crazy.

And in fact, like, there's a side part of this, which we haven't even, we don't even talk about in the episodes, but because we might be working on something else where some people think that that we're going to do that that's a good thing and they like are already worshiping it but um it's like kind of this like goofy thing in the east bay funded by jeffrey epstein by peter thiel you know like all these kind of uh great characters um and enmeshed in kind of the libertarian scene curtis yarvin kind of came up alongside of it in like a lot of the people like the most annoying commentators that you've seen in through in like the the political sphere have their roots in this the zizians these people who've killed um this like offshoot that's killed like six or seven people, I mean, depending on your, how you're calculating it, are a group of

it's hard to say how many there are.

Like, I don't know, maybe six, maybe ten.

Um, I was in their Discords a little bit, and there were some people who were in there that I'm like, you have not been caught yet.

Nobody knows who you are, but it's impossible to know if they met in real life, who sort of like found, who got into this scene, it drove them insane.

And then, because of accusations of sex abuse blackmail payments

and transphobia, because all the people in the offshoot group, not all of the people, but several of the people are trans and then some xenogender kind of things.

I can't say it.

The one that sounds like Xi Jinping, Zhi Jim Xier.

But

they're like kind of offshoot of that comes from like.

the

core rationalist people are transphobic and they are paying sex abuse blackmail payments.

They split off and then they sort of live on these boats and they live in these weird little insular like trucks communities.

They live in box trucks and they go crazy on Discord coming up with DD characters and then are so insane and bad at like doing anything in reality or like actually interacting with human beings that they end up killing definitely one guy in Vallejo,

causing the deaths of the border patrol shootout, which in the border patrol shootout of a border patrol agent, which, you know, no tears here, and one of their members, and then almost certainly killing the parents of one of their members, and then either driving two other people to suicide, or those people, one of those people might not have existed.

It's like it is, there's a lot of parallels to the Manson family here.

And it's interesting because the millenarian impulses from these people are really all to do with technology, like all to do with God and like their alignment towards

the future AI god and how it will view our actions now because it will be all-knowing and be able to reach through time and space so they made they like so like these are people who uh are it's the rokos basilisk thing right yes it's a like they're they're obsessed with that idea and they and like do they want to make it real or are they trying to prevent it that that that's what i'm confused about well i think that they want to prevent it but like kind of seems like they're also like maybe a little worshiping it and like also maybe feeding bodies to it i mean one of the main lead people in this group because it's more like they call themselves anarchists and you know me i'm i'm a hater but i could not really find anything i recognize as like anarchism at all in their writings it's kind of just crazy people stuff but they're like what you could call sort of their ideological figurehead or their center of gravity ziz

was driven insane by rocco's basilisk in like very like no uncertain terms and for those who don't know rocco's basilisk is an idea from the forums that these guys post on that that was deemed so dangerous that it was banned from any mention for many years but it's the idea that there's going to be a future AI god in the future we're going to make and he's going to be so powerful that he's going to come back in time and punish and torture you forever for not uh helping him bring it into existence um

that is like a central belief for a lot of these people but the zizians are different because they it's funny because like People have been trying to ascribe all sort of motivations for a lot of their stuff.

And

I've been open to any interpretation um but really veganism is like a major component yeah they've they describe themselves as vegan siths yes like the star wars bad guys

first of all i love um you know what you pointed out about the autism thing because one of you know this has been driving me crazy Just like people think schizophrenic means

you type the government into Google and take a picture of it.

People think that,

oh my God, I'm the only guy in the world who reads fucking Wikipedia.

I'm fucking autistic.

And I am so glad someone is out there reminding everyone that autism is the bite the teacher.

I can say that.

Correct.

Secondly, you know, I don't support what they're doing.

It's all very confusing to me.

But I do think that America does deserve a kind of vegan ISIS after what we did to the environmental movement in the 90s and 2000s.

Robert Mueller specifically, he is public enemy number one for me.

Yeah, I mean, it's, it's interesting because they have their defenders sort of like on Twitter.

I've been, I've been reading them, and it's, it's, I think I have to give a little bit of grace here because like, listen, if, if, like, you know, if I was part of a very small insular group that talked to each other on Discord all the time and then like six guys from that group or like six people from that group fucking, you know, killed a bunch of people in the name of whatever the fuck we were coming up with in there.

I guess I would, I would do, I don't know what my, my cult would be.

It would probably just try to be white Chinese, but like, uh,

I'm trying.

Can I join now?

Yeah, absolutely.

You can.

Absolutely, you can.

But, like, it's, it's, it's crazy.

I mean, these are probably our first serial killers or like group.

I don't know if serial killer is the right word, but our first like murder group that has one of the people, like the guy, yeah, guy, Max is not, not trans, which i think has been mistakenly identified as such uh who killed the guy in vallejo like you like he murdered this landlord in vallejo uh that who survived it's because they were living in tractor trailers on his property and stopped paying rent during covet and then they killed him when he asked for rent yes well they were they hadn't paid rent for two years and he was like guys like i i he also lived in a tractor trailer he's like you've taken over the entire lot you've put padlocks and everything you're freaking me out like you're throwing rocks at my trailer like can you please leave and then they lured him out to one of their trailers and then stabbed him from the back to the front through with a kitana.

So, like, pierced his, like, the katana was sticking out of the front of his chest, and he still pulled out a gun and shot two of them.

Uh, and he's 80 years old.

They finally actually killed him, he survived that, and they finally actually killed him, a different person who wasn't there that day

about three weeks ago or two weeks ago in Vallejo.

And the guy who did eventually kill him, uh, one of his last posts on Twitter, and in fact, in his Discord, gay, do crimes.

No, brother.

No, brother.

It is apologizing for BDSM-centric erotic roleplay with another member of his Discord.

And I'm sorry, we have not found killers like this before.

And it's interesting because I was not familiar with their game.

I was not familiar with their game.

Not familiar with their game.

And

listen, you know, because I had to explain erotic roleplay, which even I don't really fully understand.

I don't think I get it on a cellular level like some people do, but I had to explain that to Liz and that was a difficult conversation to have.

But these people, like,

it's really like there's a lot of like, you know, going the Discord, getting into their Discords was like really illuminating because like, I mean, it's just, there's talking about, like, I'm like, how did you,

the, the media, the lion media keeps calling them computer geniuses.

And I'm like, that you're wrong.

They're actually just geniuses that's spending a lot of time on the computer, but I'm not seeing like a lot of stuff that they're doing uh that like they're not like coding some crazy thing they're the best at being on discord yeah they're they're geniuses at being on discord and and i was thinking about this in the context of the the the black nazi school shooting like the incel guy that happened recently too like almost the same week and a lot of that was it seems like maybe He knew that other school shooter, like the like the girl school shooter that happened a few months ago from Discord chats and stuff.

And I'm like, we need to, like, there's no reason for Discord to exist because a Discord, as far as I understood it, is like what a team speak or whatever.

Like, you can talk to people while you're playing games with them.

Yeah, you don't need a chat.

You don't need a talk tech texting thing.

It should be directly connected to computer games because it is, there are bad things happening there.

But I guess, Bray's, like, here's the thing I don't understand.

Like,

so, like, yeah, like, uh, this is sort of like an incomprehensible philosophy based around the blogs of a person called Ziz.

Yes.

But, like, the Tumblrs.

What do they want other than to be able to live without paying rent?

And

I just can't discern like what are they trying to achieve?

Like

what are their values?

What are they trying to inculcate in the culture or in some future date other than the dark AI god?

As far as I can understand it, they sort of view the AI gods view of us similar to our view of animals.

And so like we have all these Auschwitz factory farms, which I don't disagree with around.

And so if they don't practice this like militant violent veganism, then they'll be Rocco's basilisk in the future and tortured because they will be like the carnist, you know, genocideires that like everybody else is.

However, the actual murders don't really correlate with any of this.

They haven't like killed any like heads of meat companies or anything.

They've just killed random people.

Or they've like just killed anybody that like they didn't like, it seems like.

And so I think a lot of it is like, it's pretty incomprehensible in terms of like politically, I think that they, that is like so far outside the realm of their understanding because it hasn't been talked about in Steven Universe, but which there are many links to on that blog.

So I'm not, I'm not talking out of

a turn here.

But I think it's like, it's more, you kind of have to view it almost more in religious terms rather than political terms.

And like, I think it is like an apocalyptic, millenarian sort of like fantasy scenario they have where like, actually, even though this apocalypse of the AI might happen like hundreds of years in the future, that AI is so powerful that it can torture those who exist now by uploading their conscious.

I mean, it's just nonsense.

And so they're acting in this way and like in this philosophy, using a lot of this like logical functional decision theory, causal decision theory, whatever like framework in order to justify basically anything they do.

So what they actually are are like kind of like pitiful loser outcasts of society who like can't keep a job and like get kicked out of every apartment they have because of roommate problems, which was unfortunately seemingly the genesis of one of these people's

descent into madness.

But they're using their sort of philosophical framework to justify everything they do after that, if that makes sense.

So like, okay, yeah, we, we are, we are, we are essentially like, like people who live in box trucks and harass an old man on his property in Vallejo.

And and running around through with a katana yeah and like running through with a katana but but we're actually saving the world

and like we're not only trying to save the world but like we're trying to prevent even our own torture in the future by this like basketless ai god that's going to be created and so everything we do actually leads eventually to us saving the world and so it doesn't like like nothing we do is actually constrained by the regular moral constraints of society or like ethical or legal because we're embarked on this like sacred mission.

And a lot of it seems to come from like, you know, reading through all the blogs of these people.

They consumed a lot of really shitty media in the past like 10 years, 20 years.

And so, like, there are a lot of references to the Protoss from StarCraft.

And there are a lot of references to the Sith.

There's a lot of links to Wikipedia.

And like, they sort of view themselves as people who must act in evil ways, although they wouldn't call them that, because they're ultimately doing this good thing.

But they're unfortunately kind of too stupid to actually figure out a master plan, or maybe they have one and haven't published it.

And so have just kind of gone around killing people,

especially over the past like six months.

Well,

that ties that up.

I guess I want to know, Brace, if I join the white Chinese cult, can I justify all of my most evil and selfish impulses in sort of like in terms of supporting China?

Or if I join the white Chinese cult, will it actually instill a sense of selflessness and morality in me?

Well, the white Chinese think in terms of centuries, right?

And so like,

love that about them.

Yeah, that's, that's kind of our whole thing about it.

And like, so anything you do now, as long as it makes more white Chinese or more

white Chinese or more white Chinese, you're good.

Like, because ultimately you're working for good.

And that's the thing is you just got to take a look at yourself and think about it for, I want every listener to Chapel Trap House to think about this for two, literally just two seconds and then never think about it again.

Am I a good person?

And if the answer is yes, everything you do is good.

Because how could a good person do bad things?

That is one of the great paradoxes of our time.

And by paradox, I mean true thin.

Yeah, yeah, exactly.

I mean, so I will say.

One of the, one of the assailants of the old man in Vallejo in 2022, when they originally attacked him.

So like they originally attacked their landlord in vallejo in 2022 ran him through with a katana and then eventually one of their friends murdered the guy for good like two weeks ago but in 2022 one of the attackers was was someone named somnulence ligencia okay pal

okay okay pal

i'm loving it i'm loving but is this what's like i i've been thinking about this man like is this just like maybe this is the world we live in now like maybe like maybe we're we're wrong and outdated for, because we're liberal, you know, True Non's liberal, you guys are conservative now.

Um, and like, maybe we're thinking outmoded and, like, we need to get into like, whatever is going on in Berkeley.

I think that's possible that, like, they'll look at our names and they'll think, they'll think it's the same as being named like, you know, Hortense Gradofer.

Yeah.

Like the types of names that like, you know, a senator would have in 1830.

Yeah.

And, you know, everyone in the future will have like, um, I think, you know, what kind, what kind of names are there?

People always say Star Wars names.

These are not Star Wars names.

These are like

Elon Musk kids' names.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I don't, again, I don't support their thing of, you know, being like, you know, this guy ate jolly bee.

Let's kill him.

But.

If I had to guess what, you know, what are people going to trend to, it's going to be that behavior in one way or the other.

Yeah.

I mean, I think the one thing that I really glean from this is like, and I kind of glean this actually from almost every single new news story that comes out that doesn't involve a natural disaster.

But like the internet drives people fucking insane.

Like it is really like, and that leads me to think, I'm like, I just don't think that like the human brain can handle that much stuff that like that we're like, I don't think that we're meant to like talk to people.

as many people as it's possible to talk to or like view as many things as

it it just drives people fucking crazy.

I know.

Well, you know, it's long been a stance of Chapo Conservative House that conversations should only be had around a cracker barrel or on a farm.

That's

I mean, as far as far as you say, Brace, oh, we should be looking to Berkeley.

No, thanks.

Chapo Conservative House knows Berkeley is a hotbed of loony, loony liberalism.

And

I won't be taking any advice from them

from the gay area.

See, I can say that now because of Roko's basilisk.

Yeah.

I mean, I, I, for me, I, my vision of the future that I want, I'm not even that I want, but that would be preferable to the one that we're probably going to have is like one guy.

No, fuck it.

I'm, I'm liberal.

One woman that looks like GK Chesterton.

And just

stop, stop.

That is just like, that is just pushing buttons.

That's shutting websites off.

That's just putting buttons, push, like, we ban almost every website.

I think there needs to be an upload cap.

I think that we need to ban the front-facing camera.

And I think that you're allowed like a certain amount of text message.

Like, we need some kind of digital rationing, but that isn't necessarily like correlated to the amount of things that we can do, but it's like the amount of data that we can have.

But that is, it's correlated to the amount of data that the human mind can comprehend.

And I think that there's just too much of that.

And

yeah.

But, but for me, my brain's different because I'm a little bit of a cyborg because I have a permanent retainer.

And so I think that like,

I can deal with it, but a lot of people cannot.

Well, I guess I have to offer my conservative opinion.

Of course.

You offered your liberal one.

Will offered our half of our conservative one.

I'm going to offer the other half.

Okay.

We need...

women who are 100 feet tall and 70,000 tons and men being shrunk to the size of ants and

we're being chased around and we have to hide in their toes and we have to cover ourselves in their toe jam.

And they know it's there, and they make it extra stinky.

They do things like wear wool socks and go on the highest resistance on the elliptical.

And then they crush us.

Then it starts over again.

Nationalism.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Absolutely.

I believe in that.

Absolutely.

That's a wholesome pro-America agenda that I think all people of stern morality and good conscience can get behind.

Yeah, you're dysgenic if you don't, if you don't think that's what you're fucking dysgenic, dude.

You're fucking dysgenic.

If there's one thing I've always hated is dysgenic people, I hate them.

You're dysgenic, and your genes are fucked up.

That's how I think about it.

But for me, I love this gen, dysgenic.

And I love this generation of people, of young Democrat liberal activists that are coming up, like David Hogg.

And who's the white man they got in charge of the DNC now?

Ken Martin.

Ken Martin.

What'd they come up with?

It's crazy.

Ken Martin?

Yeah.

Because they kicked the brother to the curb and they had to put in two of the fucking

pastiest white men ever.

Hogg, who, by the way, you still look like a boy.

Because now it's liberal.

Well, no, wait, I'm liberal.

You still look like a boy.

But Ken Martin, this guy is nothing.

This guy is nothing.

They need to get me in the DNC because I'm a Democrat.

I was, I'm a Jamie Harrison fan.

I was on his Twitter a lot because he was always arguing with, with like, you know,

Gurney, Illinois for Bernie 2020.

His bio, I always loved this.

It said, fan of Costco, WWE, Marvel,

and Bojangles, which is some, you know, like bullshit Carolina.

And it's a fan, Marvel, WWE.

My friend Jim said that it was like he googled things to be a fan of.

I don't know if I told you this, Felix, but I sat on the plane next to Corey Booker on the way back from.

Oh, you told me about this.

Yeah, and he picked a girl up.

Like

he was in the aisle seat.

There was a woman in the middle and there was me.

And he picked the woman in the middle up

by saying, among other things, I like Marvel and DC.

But he was like, really, he's way more enthusiastic about it.

I have never seen a game like that in my fucking life.

And then I later found out that he fuck because everyone thinks Corey Booker is gay and he he's allowed he lets people be he lets people you know be mysterious about that but I found out since then that Corey Booker is an animal I mean he is he is drowning in this stuff and that he's particularly he has kind of a I've never read up or seen up in the air I think it's a book too but I know the guy right wrote it is always saying some stupid shit on the internet but he used to work with Walter Kern actually I got to tell you that guy will fall for anything Walter Kern is so funny every day every day every day he's posting something like kill your oldest kid now they're going to kill us for supporting rfk he posts like q anon yeah he is he walter you are not in you are not at the party i'm sorry i don't know what to tell you there's a lot of these guys like that it's like you're not you're not in the club but i but i appreciate you in the line because i love everybody but but corey booker

in airports like nobody's been.

I've never fucked in airport.

Under what circumstances would I?

But I mean, obviously, like a grinder, whatever situation, but I don't fuck with that stuff because just because it's dangerous.

But Corey is like in there and like having women meet him in the lounge, making love to them, and then putting their asses back on the plane.

I'm serious.

Respect, Corey.

They need you to head the DNC so we have more of the women's vote.

Yeah, you told me about this gutter in detail, and I was utterly transfixed.

Amazing.

I loved it.

He, I mean, he, it does appear that he's going to have a significant role because Chuck Schumer loves how he does his TikTok and he's telling them, hey,

you know, that

elderly man that they picked over AOC for oversight?

The guy who has exactly 17 minutes of life left.

We need you to like, you know, do Miles Morales NPC videos with him.

I'm saying they should have Anthony Weiner back up there.

Post a picture of that fucking dick again.

That's crazy.

That's crazy they got him out because gray sweatpants were invented like a few years later.

And it's like what he did.

If Anthony Weiner did that now, I think he would just get off.

Like, I think people would be like, ah, you know, who among us?

You know?

If he had done it through gray sweatpants, it would have been like a law and order thing.

Like he, like, he keeps doing it, but they're like, he's got the sweatpants on.

And it's like, if we're going to criminalize like a dick being visible through sweatpants, that's like a constant, it's a constitutional crisis.

And not to be, you know, not to, not to telltale is out of school, but Huma going from Wiener to Alex Soros, who, by the way, Huma, you can do better than that, honey.

I mean, you can't do better than that because he's one of the richest guys, but we know what you're doing.

He's ugly.

I don't care who you are.

Alex Soros, and listen, I'm a big supporter of his father, George,

for religious reasons, not to do with the bad.

I actually don't like his politics, but Alex Soros is ugly.

I'm sorry.

Alex, if you're listening to this, you need to get reconciled.

You need to do facial surgery to look like a, frankly, to look Chinese, because I think that's going to be really big in the next 100 years or so.

But

you're disgusting.

Huma is delicious.

She is delightful.

Like, I think that Bourdain, if he's in the courtroom there, he'd be like, Hillary's guilty because I saw the fucking video.

Huma, I only saw blinding light.

And I am actually now conservative because I believe in something that I've come up with on my fucking badass swagger walk up to the stand called Huma Abedin nationalism that I believe in.

So I, Anthony Bourdain, am saying we should lock Hillary Clinton up for being a liberal, not for eating the baby because that's legal now.

or that should be that should be legal because of the AI God because a baby will eat more meat, but eventually will grow up.

You know, they grow up.

But I think Huma, Huma to me is fucking gorgeous and beautiful.

And I don't know where I was going with that.

I just am thinking about her again.

Well,

I think we should leave it there today.

Everyone listening to this, please start thinking about Huma.

If you don't start thinking about Huma now, there's a chance that when she becomes

sort of an AI god, she'll torture you for eternity.

So just start thinking about Huma.

Huma.

What can I do to protect Huma?

What can I do to uphold Huma?

Huma nationalism.

Yeah.

Who am I thinking of tonight when I go to sleep?

Ms.

Abedine.

Dude, her name is going to be Huguena Soros.

Oh,

that is wretched.

That's wretched.

Jesus.

If you're in my Groiper group right now, we need you to start posting pictures of Humo with Anthony Weiner and being like, they took this from you because, you know, he like stood up for his family or some stupid shit.

The original J.D.

Vance.

Yeah, yeah.

Yeah.

Everything J.D.

Vance pretends to be for whites, but yes.

Okay.

All right.

We'll wrap it up there for the day, folks.

Thank you to Brace Belden for joining us today.

You know,

enlightening us as usual.

Thank you for having me.

Everyone, listen to Truan.

Okay.

Until next time, everybody.

Bye-bye.

Bye-bye.

I gotta get smashed just like that.

I'm matching my words by

the bound.

I ain't recognized with the land.

Then I get good, then I get smart.

Then you wanna like putting them out.

That's the end of the subscribe and fight me down.

To get some up, control the truck.

I'm on a fire ass with a tough luck.

Gotta gotta figure out.