995 - The Numerology Guys feat. Alex Nichols (12/15/25)

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Hello, everybody. It's Monday, December 15th, and this is George Chapo.
In today's episode, it is me, Felix, and Alex is back with us. What's up? And

let's kick things off today.

A good weekend for bad news. We've got a mass shooting in Australia, a mass shooting at Brown University, and the murder of Rob Reiner and his wife, apparently by their son.

And that's where I'm going to begin today, because this tragic event has produced one of the most insane things Donald Trump has ever said. And it's what everyone's talking about this morning.

So I'm just going to read President Donald Trump's statement posted on Truth Social about the murder of Rob Reiner and his wife. A very sad thing happened last night in Hollywood.

Rob Reiner, a tortured and struggling, but once very talented movie director and comedy star, has passed away together with his wife, Michelle. Reporting.
Where did they go?

Rob Reiner and his son, whatever happened there? Whatever happened?

A tortured and struggling. I mean,

I don't know if tortured and struggling would ever be words anyone would ascribe to Rob Reiner. I mean, maybe, maybe I don't know.
Maybe he was really going to be a little bit more.

He was 78 years old. He was 78.

He's not a peak capability.

He wasn't like doing heroin at Chateau Mermont.

If he was, he could have bonded with his son.

He was like doing fundraisers for like Chaston's new book that's struggling, but like not in the way that Trump men's. This, the whole thing is like really funny in light of like the Erica Kirk thing.

Well, we'll get to that.

I was going to get this is just a segue. Yeah.
It's a great move. Wait, maybe, maybe tortured and struggling was referring to the Spinal Tap sequel that was not all that great.

Apparently, it wasn't blowing the tours off.

But yeah, so

he says here, okay.

But a once very talented movie director and comedy star has passed away together with his wife, Michelle, reportedly due to the anger he caused others through his massive, unyielding, and incurable affliction with a mind-crippling disease known as Trump derangement syndrome, sometimes referred to as TDS.

He's just taking credit for it. He's taking credit for it.

This is what you want to do if you're president, if you're really like any type of public figure.

If you're us, if you are a defendant at another murder trial, if there's like a horrible, tragic, grisly double murder that's like totally unrelated to you, you should like make fun of it in a way that makes it sound like you, you ordered it, basically.

Be like, hey, everyone, I offered his son a Graham.

I mean, or it makes it sound like a Trump supporter was the one who killed them. Yeah.
I mean, it just, it's a fucking awesome move. Yeah.

Even the people like, you know, dope pedophile 12 are like, this is kind of fucking nuts. Yeah.
Like, this is not a lot. It's so unforced.
Yeah.

And it's a guy that the young Republicans don't really give a fuck about. Like they're not mad at Rob Reiner because why would you be? It's like raging about like Jeff Tiedrich.

Yeah. If he's 78, he just posts corny boomer shit.
So like, I love the idea that a Trump supporter would kill him. and it would be awesome.

It would be based on this 78-year-old guy who, like, nobody really listens to. He just has generic Hollywood opinions.
It's like one more of those guys.

It's like, I don't know if Tony Danza is a MAGA guy, but like, if he was and he, like, got hit by a train and Joe Biden was like, another stupid day go down.

Scott Bayo, you're next, asshole.

Finishing this statement, yeah, he says, he was known to have driven people crazy

by his raging obsession of President Donald J.

Trump, which is, which with his obvious paranoia reaching new heights as the Trump administration surpassed all goals and expectations of greatness, and with the golden agent of America upon us, perhaps like never before.

May Robin Michelle rest in peace. Okay, okay, good.

I'm glad he blasted off at the end, you know? Yeah, yeah.

I was worried for a second, but he really

don't come across as crass and

insensitively laughing. You murder victims.

Jesus fucking Christ.

A day after.

Not even. It was like six hours.
Six hours after the Erica Kirk TV special, where, by the way, I've never seen a woman do this, but Erica Kirk.

I don't know if it's because she learned how to speak English by watching some shitty show like Castle when she was 31, but her like, her, her slow speaking pace and her like crazy, the crazy, like fucking fucking snakey look in her eyes uh she reminds me of one of those enormous children in middle school that thinks that if they concentrate hard enough that they get mad enough they can like telepathically blow up someone's mind like it's sanner's but i've never seen a woman act like that that's pretty nuts i that's Charlie, you can tell how stupid fucking Charlie was because he always thought he thought Erica was like the smartest person ever.

And she's a real dunce. I mean, yeah,

that's the next thing I want to talk about. Certainly in light of the new standard that we're all adhering to, which is that you can never make fun of anyone who gets murdered.

And the Barry Weiss Erica Kirk interview on CBS. I was doing gangbusters this weekend.
And, you know, to echo your sentiments, Felix,

Erica's not really ready for prime time. Like, she's not good on camera.
She's really not good on camera.

Charlie Kirk said one time on the show, you know, actually, my wife's more extreme than me.

Did he mean extremely socially anxious because that's the vibe i'm getting erica take a klonipin you're freaking me out

when she said um this is the first murder that took place in the age of social media what did we get a fact check dum dum

uh it's just like like her very clipped manner of speaking uh chris you made a good point about this where you said that like She knows she needs to perform this kind of serious grief with a political angle, but all of her like media training experiences come from comes from being a beauty pageant contestant.

And like, she wants to talk about, like, you know, hate rots your soul, but like, it comes across like she's saying, uh, now I'm ready for the evening gown competition.

Yeah, her pace of speaking is so fucking weird. It really, like, if you watch one of those shows, like Rizzolian Isles, that's how the characters talk.

We need to solve this case.

I mean, the other incredible thing to me was that, like, okay, like, this was promoted so heavily by the new Barry Weiss CBS News. And the idea that they were like, this is what America needs to hear.

You know, an exclusive interview with Charlie Kirk's widow after she was heard of person

of the last couple months.

She's done like 16 podcasts in like the week leading up to this interview. She's not a hard get.

This is from the CBS News

write-up of the interview.

It says here, Erica kirk says some of her late husband's controversial comments shared widely in the wake of his assassination lacked context and that he should not be deteriorated to a few sentences

i mean is this not a person who learned english well into her 30s by watching tbs they don't want any of charlie kirk content out there it's so bizarre Like when Martin Luther King died, they put the speeches everywhere.

They teach every school child the speeches he gave. But Charlie Kirk, like, you can't say anything.
The only thing you can talk about is his coffee. The mint majesty with two honeys.

That's all you can talk about.

Weiss asked Erica Kirk about some of those much shared comments that some

gun deaths are worth it to protect the Second Amendment, that the Civil Rights Act of 1964 was a mistake, and that if he sees a black pilot, he's going to be like, boy, I hope he's qualified.

While acknowledging that's not who I am, that's not what I believe. Erica Kirk said she'd love for people to watch the full clips instead of taking comments out of context.

Well, yeah, Alex, to your point, let's see the full clips. I don't want to have his words be deteriorated any further.
Yeah, I have seen the full clips.

It's sort of a fair point that he was just saying that

once affirmative action exists, there's that kernel of uncertainty.

that someone might have been promoted without actually being qualified to meet a quota and that breeds suspicion, which is like, I guess, sort of true, but it's not really that much better of a point.

You're still just being a dickhead.

Yeah, and then

what were the full contexts for the Civil Rights Act was

a mistake? Oh, he just said it was good for black people.

He said they were very happy.

They were smiling about it and he didn't like it. Going on, she says in the interview, Charlie didn't care what skin color you were.
He didn't care what religion you were. He loved excellence.

adding that his favorite word was earn. He loved knowing that people worked hard to earn what they got.

She said that she didn't know the context of the gun deaths quote, but there's a lot more to that than just one little sentence. My husband is not to be deteriorated to two sentences, she said.

He's not. He is a thought leader, and he was a brilliant man.

So that's fine if you want to take the words out of his mouth or out of context without the whole thing in perspective, but that's the problem. How many words do you think Erica Kirk knows?

I've seen her say thought leader like 60 times. It's fucking crazy.
I have not, I haven't heard someone unironically use that term since like 2013. Do you remember that Shingy guy?

That was the last person I heard say thought leader.

They're not even going to address like, let's not deteriorate my husband into a few words. Like that's, I mean, that is just, that's in the stupid dialect.
I understand that. But

she, I don't know, can we, can we get her like a cocoa type thing? Could she like point at pictures of Charlie and be like, Charlie, good speech, earn freedom.

Sorry, I misquoted her.

I'm taking, I'm deteriorating her words. She says here, my husband is not to be deteriorated to two sentences.
He's not. He is a thought leader and he was brilliant of a man.

Oh my God.

Can we get a bonobo to teach her to write a sentence or something? I mean, wasn't this guy famous? Like, why does his ex-wife have, or his widow, I guess? His ex-wife,

it was an act of God that she became his ex-wife. Um,

like, why does she have to explain who he is? Yeah, yeah, I thought he was the most influential conservative of all time. We all know who he is, right?

Has any other celebrity gotten this treatment where it's like they die, and it's like, I hope you fucking love his wife because you're getting her every day.

Who is Tom Seismore married to when he overdosed?

How come he didn't interact with me? How come Barry Weiss?

How come Barry Weiss didn't interview the surely of age person he was married to? This is Barry's big debut. And it's weird that

someone from the, I don't know, like the management class of CBS would be putting themselves in front of the camera.

Usually news organizations don't work like that. But I will say in the

YouTube clip that the YouTube video of the interview

that was that CPS put up on YouTube. I'm going to just look at this right now.
This is actually the free presses video of Barry's sit-down with Erica Kirk full full interview.

As of today, this currently has 78,000 views. Yeah, it's not that interesting.

Like that stuff's popular as viral AI content. Like fake songs of Erica Kirk and J.D.
Vance singing a song together. Or like a fake M ⁇ M song about celebrating Erica Kirk.

Shit like that goes viral.

Those fake stories about like Bob Dylan finding out that Charlie Kirk was shot mid-song, then he starts crying about it and like giving a speech.

Like that stuff does get hits, but those people don't want to watch an actual sit-down interview on a talk show format with Erica Kirk.

That's not how this works. That's not what they're looking for.

And I don't know, I feel like I've talked about this before, but like, you remember like in the weeks after Charlie Kirk's murder, like the right was really feeling themselves because they thought they had their kind of Reichstag fire moment and they were like, you have no idea what you've done.

You've unleashed like, you know, 10 million, you know, like the next generation is all going to be Charlie Kirk's.

And it really seems like in the months that's past, the only kind of major cultural impact that his murder has inspired is just like thousands of memes of people using AI to like turn him into a black guy or just like Kirkifying random people.

I did it to Rob Reiner. I think I was the first person to do it.

It's also that we are Charlie Kirk song.

Okay, that's really good. Okay,

Spencer just sent me this. It's a YouTube, a song on YouTube.
It's an AI of Erica Kirk singing, Rest Well, My Lovely Cusband. This has 1 million views.

Yeah, it's so. Just by way of comparison to the interview with actual Erica Kirk.
The amount of fake songs is fucking crazy. And it's by people, I guess it sort of makes sense.

some of it's just bizarre like rihanna you see a lot of fake songs from rihanna who i don't think would comment on this like you can imagine how a dumb guy would think eminem would do a song

because he's sort of in like the pantheon for dumb guys him and like john cena but rihanna like it's weird but there's just so much of that that's like so much ai do you think do you think there's like a trump guy who's like i love mitzky but she would never do a song about charlie kirk but now that we have AI,

I've always wondered if there's like a...

Just by like sheer numbers, there has to be like at least like 100 Mitzki fans who voted for Trump and are like sent money to Trump.

I was listening to YKS recently, and Jesse was talking about how on a recent Joe Rogan show, Joe was talking about how much he likes AI generated music and was talking about like his favorite AI music is like, as he described it, a mashup of soul music and 50 Cent.

And he said, that drove me fucking crazy. He said if it was real, it would be like the best, it would be like the top of every chart.

It would be the biggest, it'd be the biggest musician in the world. Because it's just 50 cent lyrics over a soul background.

And it's like, there's so much overlap between those two things because it's putting rap in a style of music that was the source of all the samples for rap. for like 30 years.
Yeah, yeah.

And also there are plenty of old soul songs and blues songs and stuff about killing a guy, getting drunk and like killing a woman, going to jail.

It's basically like saying that you want to hear 50 Cent over like

Kanye production before he like

went crazy on the micro lipo. Yeah, which I'm pretty sure exists.
There has to be like one song like that. Yeah, there's plenty of that stuff.
90s gangster rap that samples 60 soul.

That's like, that's like one of the huge sub-genres of rap. It's just so pointless.

Going on here,

also featured in the Bowardy Weiss interview town hall was

the kid who was debating Charlie Kirk when Charlie was shot. And it was Kozak.
It says, Kozak was the last person to debate Charlie Kirk before he was shot.

Since that day, Kozak, a self-professed liberal, has continued to call for civil political discourse. I think that one of the few things we can all agree on is this necessity for a conversation.

I think we need to remember that we all still have to live with each other. These are still our neighbors, he told 60 Minutes correspondent Scott Pelley after the shooting.

He attended the CBS News Town Hall, where he again took the microphone, this time to ask Erica Kirk a question.

Will you condemn the violent rhetoric of Donald Trump, the most powerful and influential person on earth? Kozak specifically. What do you think, Parl?

Kosek specifically referenced President Donald Trump accusing six Democratic lawmakers of seditious behavior, punishable by death, and then reposting, hang them. George Washington would.

Top Democrats called for Mr. Trump to be condemned forcefully over the social media remarks.
Erica Kirk didn't mention Mr.

Trump by name in in her response, saying the issue is so much deeper than one person and that it starts at home.

Yeah, get Donald Trump's parents in here.

I blame his parents. I blame the parents.
Who is that like crazy woman, Annalyn McCord or something, when Putin invaded Russia, or sorry, Ukraine, and she was like, I wish I could breastfeed you

to prevent this.

Maybe if we show Donald Trump a video of Erica Kirk breastfeeding him, he'd be like, oh, okay, I'm cured.

I started home. She urged parents to look in the mirror and reflect on how they're raising their children.
You can choose to have evil in your heart or you can choose to have light, she said.

What you consume and what you absorb from the outside world will manifest itself. Weiss asked, do you think our political leaders have a responsibility to turn the temperature down right now?

Well, I think everyone has a responsibility to do that, and I'm doing my part, Erica replied. I'm not in control of other people.

It really is a beauty pageant interview. Yeah.

It's like one of the ones that went viral in the 2000s. I think all U.S.

women of all time. I think all U.S.
Americans need to turn down the temperature on heated political discourse and violent rhetoric. I guess

another thing that's kind of hanging over these whole proceedings, and by the way,

I keep seeing like CBS News has promoted this so heavily.

And like Barry went on CBS Sunday morning to talk about the interview she did again and like they had like the full panel quizzing her about what it was like to talk to Erica Kirk and basically she said she's a powerfully religious woman that like is bearing witness in a Christian sense and like the audience was really moved by it she was like everyone in the room was blown away by the power of this woman it's like being the last person to interview someone with a book out like that's what she's bragging about the person that's been on TV non-stop for two months I finally got an interview with her her and she said the same shit.

Yeah, right.

Like, if Barry had, like, again, like, Will, you've pointed this out. This is like, they're not trying to make money or like get viewership.
But, like, if she was

and she was like, so are you seeing anyone?

That would be like, Erica hasn't talked about that.

Yeah.

Or yeah, yeah. So, like, yeah, buzzing out.

Maybe they could have cracked 100,000 views if she was just like, I'm glad he's dead. He was an asshole.

I'm on vacation now. This is great.

I inherited all his money. I'm spending it like

I found a guy who's going to teach me how to blow up people's heads

with yours because it's so big. I like you, but I really want to see that thing pop.
Well, actually, like, I mean, you bring up the

sort of the business angle to this, and Variety has a piece about like basically how for some reason CBS chose to air this on Saturday night which is like the worst oh no yeah I was it well it's like it's like that's the time that no one watches the news is Saturday night I was at an or I was at an orgy and we all stopped when this came on

The event marked it, this is some variety, it says here, the event marked a new offering from CBS News.

The organization does not typically host town halls or debates on trending issues with newsmakers.

And the choice of Weiss as a moderator also raised eyebrows because in most modern TV news organizations, senior editorial executives remain off-camera rather than appearing in front of it.

More may be on the way.

I hope so.

We did another interview with Erica. I have a lot of unanswered questions.
Yeah.

During the program, Weiss told viewers that CBS is going to have many more conversations like this in the weeks and months ahead. So stay tuned.

More town halls, more debates, more talking about things that matter. That would suggest CBS is planning to devote more hours to the programs.
The news special aired at 8 p.m.

on Saturday, one of the least watched hours in broadcast TV. And that may have contributed to the relative dearth of top advertisers appearing to support the show.

During the hour, commercial breaks were largely filled with spots from direct response advertisers, including the dietary supplement Super Beats, the home repair service Homeserve.com, and Carfax, a supplier of auto ownership data.

Viewers of the telecast on WCBS, CBS's flagship station in New York, even saw a commercial for a Chia Pet, the terracotta figure that sprouts plant life life after a few weeks.

So yeah, like,

not exactly blowing the doors off, but I mean, like, I don't know, like, how about just give her her own show? She, like, why, why is Barry Weiss doing these interviews?

Erica Kirk should be interviewing people. I kind of want, I like them together because they're both like,

they.

Felix, they should do a Rizzoli and Isles style show. That's how they already speak.
I mean, you know, like, Rizzolian Isles, by the way, a show, a show with a very prominent lesbian fan base.

So, you know, like, Barry, Erica, this is like the perfect matchup. And one of the, I forget if it was Rosolia or Isles, who Angie Harmon plays, already a conservative.
Yeah.

And I always wished, you know, I've talked with my friends in the Rosalie and Isles fan community. We wish they were both conservative.
Now they're, now they both are. They both talk that way.

Fantastic. I mean, there is sort of a, there's another worm in the apple here in this story, and that is

basically all of the strife and anxiety that is being caused by Candace Owens. So like just sort of,

she's making

their efforts to deify Charlie Kirk and sort of promote Erica and like to as part of a political project.

She keeps making that hard because she has a huge audience and she keeps focusing on the fact that Charlie was killed by the French government to cover up Bridget MacCron's both both her the fact both the fact that she is a trans woman, but also that she was involved in the Sanford prison experiments.

How did Charlie know about that?

I mean, did he like, did he like walk in on her changing? I just like, I don't, I mean, I support Candace in all this. I love what she's doing.
It's hilarious.

I love how mad everyone is at her, but I really, like, it doesn't make a lot of, or really any sense.

I don't recall Charlie

ever talking about anyone involved in the Stanford prison experiments. But maybe it was, maybe that was like his,

that is what he was going to shock that liberal kid with for the question about

trans mass shooters, I think. I don't know.
It just,

as

nonsensical as her thing is, I do kind of, like, she, out of all the people who memorialized him, I believe that she was his friend more than any of them.

Those pictures are, that made me a little sad, to be honest. They reminded me a lot of like

sort of like a vivacious guy hag combo that I would always see at the bar I worked at. She was the other one of his two honeys.

And it says here that

Erica Kirk is planning to have a private meeting with Candace Owens. This is after Turning Point USA challenged her to a public debate.

But it says, Weiss asked Erica Kirk about Erica Kirk about Candace Owens, a former Turning Point USA employee and one-time friend of Charlie Kirk, who has recently been peddling conspiracy theories about his assassination.

Owens has also made unfounded allegations about the nonprofit. The Treasury Department last week confirmed that none of the tax-exempt entities Erica Kirk runs are under investigation by the IRS.

What does Erica Kirk want to say to Owens and others making these unfounded claims? Stop. That's it.
That's all I have to say. Stop.

But

I don't think Candace Owens is going to do that. And, you know, I was fascinated by

the Stanford Prison Experiment

angle to this because Dave Weigel shared a video of Candace talking about this from a while ago. And it begins with her talking about how important numerology is,

which is, you know,

always a good sign.

But then she basically goes through how, like, each of these Stanford prison experiment subjects were assigned numbers. And then she analyzes the numbers and is it Gematria?

She says that the numbers correspond to military bases and that one of the military bases was

like owned by France or something. I don't know, but my favorite point of the video that Weigel pointed out is one of the participants in the Stanford prison experiments was a man named Walter Hubble.

And that is Hubble spelled H-U-B-B-E-L-L.

And

she speculates that he might be involved with the Hubble telescope, spelled H-U-B-B-L-E.

Wit Hubble, we've been having trouble finding anything about Wit Hubble, so we are unsure about 7258. Somebody out there will be able to let me know.

We have had trouble even establishing who his family is, if he's connected to the Hubble telescope. So we just have nothing but question marks when it comes to Wit Hubble.
What if he was?

You never, I mean, I don't know. Stanford student worked for NASA.
Yeah. Yeah, I guess so.
Like, you know,

Candace Owens is,

like I said, she's becoming something of a thorn in the side of the sort of post-Charlie Kirk right. Like, she seems to be,

I don't know, fomenting this schism in the, I don't know, the turning points in the broader online conservative media entertainment sphere. And I just want to read a little bit from Will Summer, who

wrote this up for the Bulwark a little while ago. And it says, here,

Erica Kirk went on Fox News on Wednesday to mark the three-month anniversary of her husband Charlie's assassination. But her goal wasn't just to commemorate the tragic moment.

It was to staunch the cataracts of conspiracy theories that have been promoted by Candace Owens, who's earned tens of millions of YouTube views for her wild, unfounded speculation about Kirk's death.

Sorry, I'm just thinking of Barry's YouTube numbers again.

It says here, without naming Owens, Erica Kirk jabbed at an unnamed person making hundreds and thousands of dollars every single episode going after people that I love.

My message to them is to stop, to stop, Kirk said, turning directly to the camera. So she gave the same interview to Fox News several weeks ago.

Barry got scooped like a million times before this CBS town hall. Erica's even recycling her lines for Barry.

But it says here, as the segment ended, Kirk held up her late husband's new posthumously published book and

said said its title, giving it an imperative intonation to reinforce the apparent message to Owen. Stop in the name of God.

By the way,

Charlie Girk's posthumous book is called

Stop in the Name of God, How Honoring the Sabbath Can Change Your Life. Oh my God.
Buddy, just

hurt.

Well, I mean, like, which Sabbath? You know, there's a couple of them. Does he mean Friday evening to Saturday? Or is he referring to Sunday? Why not just take the whole weekend off just to be safe?

Well, what is the thing about how Erica said he would get home and be like, Shabbat Shalom?

That's not for you.

And Little in This World is.

Summer continues here. If the message rang familiar, that may be because two days earlier, podcaster Tim Poole had launched his own somewhat less rousing salvo against Owens.

Fuming after an unidentified person allegedly fired shots at his rural West Virginia compound, Poole blamed Owens for injecting a new level of mania into MAGA media, even slamming his hand on the table for emphasis.

Describing in detail what he believed to be Owens' own minimal security setup, Poole raged that he, by comparison, is forced to live in the middle of nowhere in West Virginia to deter assailants.

Candace Owens is a fucking evil scumbag, Poole said. She is a degenerate cunt.
She is burning everything down, and she's gloating and smiling while she does it.

Poole and Erica Kirk are parts of a broad new coalition coalescing on the right with the goal of stopping Owens and her conspiracy theories, many of which targeted Charlie Kirk's friends and the organization he founded, Turning Point USA.

Their efforts are a testament to the tremendous clout Owens now wields, but timing is a major factor, too.

TPUSA's big annual AmericaFest conference in Phoenix is kicking off next week, and prominent conservative figures have been open to that they fear that the proceedings could go sideways because of Owens' claims.

Personalities as disparate as pro-Israel commentator Ben Shapiro, anti-Semitic white nationalist podcaster Nick Fuentes, and even the Internal Revenue Services have all attempted to debunk Owens's claims this month.

The Gripers and the Evangelical Trad Moms have united in distaste for her.

I know Candace Owens has like a huge audience, but like,

how do you guys conceive of like the typical Candace Owens fan?

I think it's kind of obvious. I mean,

I like she's not, she's not as like bombastic a performer as like Alex Jones

or as polished a broadcaster as Tucker maybe,

but I do think she has like an every stupid woman appeal to a lot of these people.

I don't know how many people you've met who are like addicted to things you can buy at the gas station, but there's like a lot of people like that in this country. Like a fucking lot of them.

I would say probably over a hundred million. For those types of people, they may have like voted for Trump like maybe three times, but they don't like fully consider themselves Republicans.

They're not fully,

they're not fully acclimated to the, the, um, con ink or the party infrastructure or any of that.

And, um,

they just, they like the idea that, like, a fellow dum-dum is like, hey, everyone, I found some numbers that, like, you know,

prove that, like, Starburst have fucking AIDS in them.

I think

she's still kind of like that.

Yeah, yeah. She's still keeping up the Edge Lord shit, which the rest of them aren't really.

Like, they're doing the Safe Edgy shit, their version of Safe Edgy, but they don't really want to poke the bear. They don't want to kick the hornet's nest.
They're saying, like, calm down, calm down.

We're just going to, we're going to talk about Robb Reiner. We're going to talk about Rosie O'Donnell and Whoopi Goldberg.

We're going to have a safe level of people getting freaked out and pissed off, but we don't want to go too far. We don't want to attack Erica Kirk.

I mean, it kind of is the same phenomenon of when someone triangulates to

preemptively cut off their right flank in like a real estate or something why wouldn't you go with the real thing like if it's like oh you know okay um we you know we could say that rob reiner died of trump derangement system syndrome but we we you know we we draw the line at erica kirk i you know if i was into that i would rather have the woman kicking the synagogue nest yeah it's not like they're running for office Yeah.

It's just two different TV shows. And why would you want the one that's sanitized for CBS? She's also like a real wild card.
Like she is, like she's, you know, she does all this like,

you know, Jew stuff sometimes, but then she's also like, but I'm also friends with the worst Jewish guy ever, Harvey Weinstein. Like you really, like, you don't know what she's going to do.

It's exciting. Like I said, like, I think after Charlie Kirk's murder.
There was this, I don't know, there was this implication or like

a wish that was being projected onto the public by the right that this was going to change everything.

And the reality is that, like, it really hasn't amounted to much. And, like, I think there's an anger that not enough is being done.

Or, like, you know, the guy that they arrested, it's just, I don't know, maybe it's not satisfying enough.

But if you're mad about people not doing anything about Charlie Kirk's death, I suppose you'd prefer the TV show that's trying to explain it, even if the explanation is completely insane. Right.

And also, like, at this point, at this point, even with like Con Inc., the mainstream Republican Party,

how can you say to your voters, like, okay, like we draw the line at investigating Charlie Kirk's death. That's unacceptable for some reason.
Why that one?

It seems very arbitrary to probably like a huge chunk, if not a majority of their voters.

Will Sommer writes on here, it says, Owens at first shied away from explicit attacks on Erica Kirk.

In fact, she said early on that the widow was the only person, aside from Owens' own husband, who could tell Owens to stop looking into Charlie Kirk's murder.

But after Erica Kirk slammed her on Fox News on Wednesday, Owens made clear that on her own show that the widow would now be fair game too.

She compared Erica to Megan Markle, a reviled figure on the right, and said, you don't get to be widowed into the position of chairman and CEO. Megan Markle,

I mean, I suppose I can understand like,

is she still reviled on the right for what, like breaking up the royal family of Great Britain? Or

are they met at suits? I don't know. Or just because she's mixed race.
I guess Erica Kirk is part Lebanese. Maybe she is the Megan Markle of Charlie Kirk.
I don't know.

There's secret Lebanese all over Con Ink. It's really nuts.
You know, Benny Hinn?

Oh, yeah, the Reverend Benny Hinn. I love him.
Owen's cavalier attitude and the audience she has grabbed with it has been a green light signal to others of that ilk.

Provocateur Milo Yiannopoulos has also began raising questions about the Kirk assassination, including where he was buried.

It prompted Erica Kirk to acknowledge in her Fox News appearance that decisions about her husband's body are being kept private.

An understandable disclosure, but no one, but one that could end up fueling even more conspiracy theories.

Is she going to give it to that German guy who like, um, you know, he like replaces the fluids with plastic and makes the bodies do all that crazy stuff?

Like the uh like

the bodies exhibition, right? Yeah, yeah. Uh, I mean, well, what if that's what Charlie wanted?

Actually, uh, she donated it to one of those programs that like test artillery for the military.

They're strapping his skeleton to a new Israeli spice bomb.

If the TPUSA showdown doesn't demolish Owens, Fuentes, a one-time Owens fellow traveler, who has so far stayed away from her conspiracy theories about Kirk's killings, has vowed to put Owens in a coffin, metaphorically speaking.

If they don't do a good enough job, I think I'm going to have to step up, Fuentes said on his show, and I think I'm going to have to expose Candace Owens for what she really is.

There are a lot of reasons, I think, to think that this won't work. For one, Owens may have a bigger audience than Fuentes and almost all of of her other critics.

For another, pushing back can be a difficult because of many of Owens' conservative critics do not always operate in the realm of reality themselves.

As Poole raged against Owens on Monday night, his guest was Gary the Numbers guy, a sort of manosphere numerologist who provides astrology readings for macho far-right figures.

Poole asked Gary the Numbers guy for his thoughts on Owens. I think Candace Owens is born in 1989, the year of the snake, Gary said.
And 2025 is the year of the snake.

And I think that's why she's number one right now. That's the least masculine shit of all time.
I know, bro.

You could not come up with something less masculine than using astrology, talking about 1989. Someone said that exact sentence about Taylor Swift.
I guarantee you.

Well, I mean, I guess it'll make America Fest interesting. I'll be looking forward to that next week.

You know, what's next for Erica Kirk? Because, like, I really think she needs her own TV show. And, like,

she's become kind of the figurehead of TPUSA. But

where's she going? Where's she going now? What's next for Erica Kirk? That's what I want to know. She needs an angle.

There has to be some sort of angle because they kind of ran out of the rage and the clicks and the engagement on just saying, they killed Charlie Kirk. He's dead.
What the fuck? The left did this.

The left created this climate where he was murdered. Like, no one wants to click on that anymore.
That's why they're switching to conspiracies. And you can't really go back because

once you've trained all these people to expect constant conspiracies and just constant rage bait and shit, you can't show them that and then expect them to go back to just mourning him in a respectable way.

That's not going to get clicks. That's boring.
That is the funny thing about all of this. I mean, like all the people on like the Tim Pool side of things,

it's basically like they're complaining that they like

they gave their kids meth. and for like a month it made their grades better, but now they're like taking apart the family's car and putting it back together poorly

like but you know biting their own scabs off what the fuck well you gave them meth what do you what what did you think how do you think it was gonna go after like three months

i don't really see a

bright future for erica in the entertainment business um

the her her tenure hosting the charlie kirk show

It's not gone well. Listenership is down.

But

I think that like, if there is any angle at all, and like this has always been my dream job to be like a John Taffer for content creators. Yes.
It would be like

you show her like, you know, AI songs that she's singing with Rihanna about Charlie and be like, okay, you try to do this. Okay.
I'm getting in my content creator brain here.

I'm going to do content rescue here. And I think a great idea for Erica is like, don't get mad.
Get even. You know, start trolling Candace Owens.

And I think a good way for her to do that would be to host some sort of reality

TV show competition featuring the French Foreign Legion. Like, who wants to be the next Foreign Legionnaire? You know, like some sort of like obstacle course or quiz show.

But the idea is to like, you know, I don't know, initiate men into the French Foreign Legion and set them to work. doing assassinations.

Or just do the Stanford Prison Experiment as a reality.

Oh, that's a good one. That's a great idea.
That's a great idea.

A recreation of the Stanford Prison Experiment hosted by Erica Kirk. And

there could be like a message for that. There could be a message in that show about

treating people with respect and looking at them. The students are anti-Semites.

They were at a Palestine protest. It's okay.

Oh, man.

That's another thing that's pretty rich for Barry Weiss to be talking about how no one should ever be killed for their words. Well, you know,

there are a few exceptions that Barry's made in the past regarding that policy.

English words.

I mean, yeah, talk about creating a fucking climate. Jesus Christ.

Everyone's got a role to play. Everyone needs to look in the mirror

and parents. And

the parents need to take responsibility for the climate of hatred that they are raising their kids in. Spend more time with them.
Less time doing interviews. More time with your kids.

It'll bring down the climate. All right, that's going to fun on Erica Kirk, Candace Owens.
I wish them the best, but I don't know.

I think they should have done

the meeting between them for a TV show. I think that should have been on CBS too.

That is another fucking bungle, by the way. Yeah.
Because

if you're confident, which I'm not, but

if you're Erica Kirk and you're like, hey, I know myself.

I know my friends I know the guys I hired to like touch their own foreheads a bunch of times We didn't like, you know, do numbers with the French government to kill Charlie You would like it would be like a publicized thing.

It would be her first like hit in a few months, honestly but doing it in private. That's like

you're basically like winking to all the stupids and gas station substance users and being like, we're not broadcasting this because I'm going to threaten to like, you know, throw her grandmother off a bridge.

That's like the best thing you could do for Candace. Yeah.
What? You think, you think, you think you're going to like shame her in private? That's not fucking happening, lady.

Oh, wait. Okay.
Sorry, I had one more idea of a way that Erica Kirk could get back at Candace Owens. Do a podcast about numbers called Numbers Every Day or Numbers Everywhere.

A show that just describes like numbers that you encounter on a day, and then maybe Gary the numbers guy or like a panel of numerology of schizophrenics can like divine meaning from it.

This is, we do a similar thing for our schizophrenic listeners where like just at random points in episodes, we'll be like 72, 87.

Bam, we're gonna get you, bam!

By the day, it's it, by the way, this week's numbers are 4, 26, and 8. If you see those, you are going to die.
Bam!

I think, you know, that could really work on Candace. I don't know.

I think he has something here.

Oh, well,

this is for Candace.

This week's numbers are de trois. He wasn't perfect.
Nobody is. That's the truth.
But he carried his cross like a soldier of the proof. In a world full of chaos, he was standing for light.

Courting scripture in the dark, holding hope through the fight. Gunshots took him, but they couldn't steal a song.
Cause the spirit in his words keep marching all strong he said well uh speaking of um

uh child child abuse um

there was a new trove of uh epstein photos released and uh you know like uh

nothing too slazzlish in them but like it's more just like the company he keeps and like obviously a lot a lot of a lot of him and woody allen a lot of him and steve bannon ehud barak but the one everyone's talking about is like How much fucking time an email?

Look, I know Noam Chomsky replies to every email if you write to him. But he apparently attends every event you invite him to.
Jesus.

You know, and like, I guess, like, I don't reply to any emails, you know, and like, so

I feel vindicated in that. But, like, Noam Chomsky, Jeffrey Epstein,

I gotta say, this really does ding his overall reputation and legacy just a little bit. Just a little bit.

You know who never met with Jeffrey Epstein, never talked to him, never met with Steve Bannon. John Fuchlsang.
That's right.

The guy who knows Turkey basically ripped off for most of his stuff, especially in linguistics. Also, like, what language did he invent? None of them, apparently.

One last thing I want to get to today.

I want to check in on our boy Rod Dreyer, who wrote a piece for the free press. Back to Barry again.
But

he wrote a piece for the free press titled The Intersectionality of Nick Fuentes.

And I'm not going to read all of it because it's kind of boring, but I just want to read just the beginnings of it.

Rod writes, in the Cohen brothers cult comedy, The Big Lebowski, Walter Sobchek, John Goodman, says, Say what you will about the tenets of National Socialism, dude, but at least it's an ethos.

His point is that when you have no identity, Nazism at least gives you a sense of who you are and of purpose.

I don't think that was Walter's point in that scene.

I don't think I hate Gen Xers, man.

I fucking hate Gen Xers.

It's the most Gen X opening to an article.

Fuck people in their 50s.

He says, it's a funny line, but now that a rising political influencer in America is Adolf Hitler-loving, Holocaust-denying, 27-year-old incel named Nick Fuentes, we ought to take Subcheck's observation.

Wait a second.

Okay.

You can insult Nick Fuentes by saying he's a virgin and an incel, but not if you're Rod Dreyer. He should be

for never having sex.

It would all suck his dick.

If he asked those people for sex, he's a voice. It's his choice.

I can confirm that. Sometimes I pretend to be him, and you'd be surprised what I can get away with.
Like I said,

Fuentes has never, yeah,

he says he's never had sex with a woman, and I believe him.

It says here, Fuentes positions himself as the voice of a generation of lost white males.

And though he comes across, it comes off as a hysterical ranter, he praises both Hitler and Joseph stalin it's a mistake to underestimate him say what you will about the tenets of graperism dude but at least it's an ethos can you watch another i had to repeat that line again

can you quote scarface or something yeah jesus man don't worry donny good movies from that period i mean this is a good movie too but like jesus christ we are really overdoing it here with this generation and this movie don't worry donny these men are incels but he goes on to say what is that ethos fuentes now riding high on the boost Tucker Carlson gave him, laid out his core tenets in a couple of recent clips.

In this one, he says, he is principally engaged in trying to organize whites as a political group to raise the consciousness of an army.

Why is it, he asks, that Jews, Muslims, and racial minorities have political consciousness, but that is taboo for whites.

You're going to get grapers with our white identity politics in the halls of power. That's the endgame, he says.

The free press has reported on Fuentes registering a 501c4 called the America First Foundation, a tax-exempt organization that can engage in lobbying and political campaigning.

Here is Fuentes calling for a kind of Hitler-Stalin pact of the progressive left and nationalist right. The left can have equity and all it wants if it just gives up on immigration and aid to Israel.

And the right, he says, should abandon the free market and, of course, aid to Israel. Then we can all come together as populists and rule for a century.
Nationalist Society. Oh, God.

You really see why Rod is like,

he mostly writes about like different types of genitalia he's seen. Yeah.
Because like any other topic. Yeah, any other topic is pretty dry.

Yeah. Yeah.
He is fucking boring. Well, I mean, like, I'm going to get to get to that.
Buddy, have you gone to any bathrooms recently? Can we hear about that?

I'm going to get to the point he's making here. But it says here, if you are shocked by Nick Fuentes, it shows you have a heart.

But if you were surprised by him, it raises questions about the existence of your brain. Evil though he is, Fuentes is merely following the path laid down by the American left for the half century.

Back in 2019, near the height of the Great Awokening, Stacey Abrams, the prominent black female Democrat who was once thought to be the future of the party, put identity politics at the core of the Democratic Party.

In a speech to the Center for American Progress, Abrams said, the notion of identity politics has been peddled for the past 10 years and it's been used as a dog whistle to say we shouldn't pay too much attention to the voices coming into progress.

I would argue that identity politics is exactly who we are and exactly how we won. Identity politics for me, but not for the white boys.
They really thought this would last forever.

And basically, like, I mean, like, you're right, Felix. Like,

he should be talking about Bluey or bathrooms or his family history. You wouldn't believe how many teletubbies crawled up my asshole in a dream I had last night.

You know, here's what this says about the future of Hungary.

It's like, I've read this article a million fucking times. It's just chat GPT.
It's all clichés. The Churchill quote.
The Churchill quote.

Yeah. I really hate that guy who was...
Who is that rich guy who was like... He was basically paying Rod Dreyer's salary at American Conservative.

And then after the Root Wiener article, he was like, okay, this is too weird for me. Which like...

Yeah, I think it might be. It raises a lot of questions about him because it's like, were you actually a fan? Because that's kind of Rod playing the hits.

But I hate that guy because he scared Rod into just writing like normal substack slop. Yeah, and it's about this.
It's about one of the most repressed gay subjects that you could possibly write about.

But he's not even making it interesting. He's not even talking about penises.
You're so right.

Like two years ago, if you told me Rod wrote like, you know, 5,000 words on Nick Fuentes, I'd be like, yes, let's go. This is going to be great.
He's going to talk about like...

you know, the thigh-high socks and dressing up like maids and stuff. But no, there's a lot of

them off. Yeah, Destiny in the pool.
Yeah, none of that, though. None of that in this.
He's gun shy now, and it's really sad. Wasn't the Root Wiener thing that he was uncircumcised? Yeah.

That kid was uncircumcised. Well, you know who's uncircumcised? Latinos.

By and large,

great. Don't they have primitive root wieners? Very, very, very good point.

He says here, yes, the right has a Nick Fuentes problem, but it has a Nick Fuentes problem in part because for decades, the grievance of Seth's left has demonized the kind of people who are susceptible to the Griper message and who have not internalized the taboos that made older whites too timid to speak out effectively against the left's malicious illiberalism.

Alas, these right-wing Zoomers have a point when they say that straight white men are the only demographic not permitted to have political consciousness based on their identity.

This is the deal with the devil that American political culture made when it normalized essentialism based on race or other characteristics. Like, for instance, being uncircumcised.

Yeah, I don't know. I guess you can argue that 2020, coinciding with lockdown and stuff, that probably did have an effect.
Yeah. Like peak woke.

Just people who were like 16 and they were into Gamergate type shit and just being inundated with that shit during their formative years.

Like, I guess I can see the argument that that would sort of solidify a racial identity, especially when it's being reinforced by the internet and it's like your social group and stuff.

But I think it probably would have happened anyway. It would have come out in another form.
Yeah, I just, I feel like I've been reading this exact article for like I know, I know.

and Rod writes to be clear it is not the case that particular groups racial minorities religious believers LGBT is women don't have a political interest as a group it's more that some that some have come to see those identities rather than citizenship and shared humanity as the basis for equality well Rod like Like I said, I've read this article a billion times, but like with Rod writing it, it's like, Rod, you don't believe that gay people or women should have political equality or rights.

So like, I don't know what this is, is, like, it's just, he's the wrong messenger for this. Like, he says, crucially, Martin Luther King Jr.

advocated for the interests of black Americans in universalist, not essentialist terms.

If one accepts essentialism and makes it the basis of one's politics, a la Stacey Abrams, then you cannot escape the logical conclusion that angry white males have a right to do so as well.

This will mean the death of pluralistic liberal democracy. But like, Rod, you don't believe in pluralistic liberal democracy.
You believe that we should have like some sort of religious king. Like,

you what are you complaining about? Like all this woke illiberalism led to the rise of Donald Trump Part II. Like what are you complaining about? Your side won.

Out of all the people who can like put on the, you know, I'm a classical liberal bullshit act. Yeah, you were the last one who can do that.
Yeah, you're Catholic from Louisiana.

And you love Eastern Europe. That's not liberal.

And then he goes on to say, to be clear, it is nearly impossible to imagine that the left, whose newest political icon, incoming New York mayor Zoran Mamdani, is the incarnation of leftist identity politics, is capable of anything but accelerating the identity politics civil war that the left has been inviting since before Martin Luther King Jr., with his colorblind universalist dream, was murdered in Memphis.

Rod,

you and your whole, your dad was in the KKK, Rod.

I mean, he was engaged in white identity politics a long time before fucking Stacey Abrams got on the fucking scene in the South.

And it's like, Rod, you're opposed to Martin Luther King Jr. and everything he stood for.
So you can't like use his supposedly his dream of universal civil and human rights.

You can't bemoan the loss of that thanks to woke identity politics because you never believed in it or want or desired it in the first place.

And also, I got to say here, when he says, like, he's saying he's rejecting identity politics and like no one that it's evil and no one should subscribe to it.

But then when he describes Ziran Mamdani as the incarnation of leftist identity politics, how?

He didn't run an identity politics campaign. He's just a Muslim guy from a different country.
That's the only thing that you can tag him with as representing identity politics is just his identity.

But he wasn't running on that. That's what I was going to say.

You can more accurately say that like J.D. Vance ran an identity politics

when he ran for Senate or during the 2024 campaign than you could ever say that about Zoran's mayoral campaign, primary or general.

That was sort of the big thing with it, is that he talked about like affordability issues. He was like a vindication of

a more polished Bernie 2016 model adjusted for a municipal campaign.

If you look at that campaign and say that it's identity politics, you might be a fucking idiot. He's an Indian Muslim from Uganda.
Like

you can't be the idpal guy when you're that guy. Because how many other people like that are there?

10?

There's up to 20,000 people like that who have ever lived in fucking America.

You can't be saying Indian, Muslim, Ugandan lives matter.

It kind of has to be universal.

How many fucking Shia Muslims are there in America?

Think about that. Like, Rod, you are fucking dumb.
You are an idiot. You need to get back to the sex stuff because you are a fucking dope.
But the free press is making him dumb.

The free press is accepting this dog shit when they, when, like, he could be, like there's so much better stuff for rod to be writing about and they're letting him fucking degrade they're letting him to use the words of erica curriculum they're letting him deteriorate himself doing recycling this tired old bullshit this is like if um

i think like the same guy owned the white socks and the bulls for a while if he was like okay we're oh we're paying but we're paying michael jordan but only to play baseball

he never stepped foot on a basketball court ever again

Yeah.

He says here,

the assassination this fall of conservative youth leader Charlie Kirk, apparently by a

conservative youth leader. I'll take that as a compliment.

I'm the same age, yeah, early 30s, very youthful. Well, I mean, I think he's saying he led conservative youth.
Not so much that, I mean, well, you know, 30 is still young. Come on.

42 is still pretty young.

Sorry, the assassination this fall of conservative youth leader Charlie Kirk, apparently by a radical young white leftist, eliminated the most important voice on the right for solving disputes through reasoned dialogue.

How the right responds, not only to murder, but to the jeering reaction of the left, remains a challenge. Yeah, cue Donald Trump and what we talked about at the beginning of the show.

It certainly does remain a challenge, you know,

maintaining that moral high ground.

And only weeks after the entire administration bragged and posted snuff films about the fishermen they killed, by the way. Yeah, yeah,

good point. And the associate says, who else is there? Maybe no one.
We are not fated to fall like the Weimar Republic did. Another cliche!

Fuck you!

Who's the editor of this piece?

All of us, whatever our politics, still have moral agency and the capacity to resist, in word and deed, the race-essentialist ideologues of both sides.

Yet in an era which all traditional moral authorities of the center are discredited in the eyes of of the online mesmerized young, the field is open to radicals of all time, just like Weimar.

For all who's looking at it... Oh, God.

How is it like that at all? It's a very specific situation where World War I just ended and they lost and they were occupied by the Allies and they had the indemnity that they had to pay.

It was a very specific set of circumstances that's not at all like America at any point. Nothing like it.
Yeah, you say that, Alex.

You say that, Alex, but in Weimar weimar germany they had like you know cabarets where they did like gender performances and they were like you know fucking and sucking and you know like uh singing songs about

can we take rod out to like a plur experience just to like get his creative juices flowing again

like yeah like send him to a boiler room

you're indulging too much yeah he needs to be more repressed.

You're right.

You know, those guys I love, the guys who get put in a PVC cube? What if we all go to a boiler room, but Rod has to be in the cube the entire time?

He can't leave, and we're all farting into it. I mean,

I think that would mellow him out a little too much. I think that would give him some sort of release.

Here's what we do:

Rod should continue to do his sort of post-divorce, sort of man-about town, traveling, having fun.

But we need to give him some bad acid so he has a really bad trip and like sees demons and he can go back to the real shit, the real Rod shit. Not this, like,

this is like Jordan on the Wizards, Felix.

Jordan for the White Sox, Jordan on the Wizards. Like, no one wants to see or hear this from Rod, man.
This is like the last 10 fights of BJ Penn's career. It's awful.
It's sad to watch.

I really don't like it. I mean, I thought if we could get Rod like

a form of 2 CB that specifically like, gives you schizophrenia and take him to the exact club that Vito went to at the moment's wedding.

It's a joke.

I really felt bad for Vito. It's like, he's been in the mafia, like, 30 years.
Can you at least like

let him try to explain how it's a joke, like, what the joke is?

Maybe Vito had like a secondary thing. Like, he had a passion of being like a practical jokester, like Bobby with the trains.

rod uh sealed inside a uh latex cube it's an ethos guys it's an ethos

yeah i mean yeah i i um if you are an evil 2cb dealer please get in contact with us we have to save this this man's career uh i mean talk about something being important for the future of the west um rod closes out this piece by writing for all his wickedness nick fuentes at least knows who he is and what he believes in sure it's evil

I just like I don't think Rod has done a good enough job explaining why he thinks what Nick Fuentes believes is evil I mean because as best I can tell he believes it's evil for white people to have political consciousness and identity politics because it's all because it's more evil for black people Latinos women and gay people to

have have a political project or an ethos uh on that regard it's also this is such a weird person to say that about.

You know who's not in denial or hiding any aspect of his life? Nick Fuentes.

That guy is not holding anything in.

And in

a culture gripped by what the cognitive scientist John Vervake calls the meaning crisis, it's an ethos with power and allure that we would be fools to discount.

Is that a new thing, the meaning crisis?

Yeah. If you've invested in meaning anytime over the last five years, you're taking a bath right now.

This is like if Christopher Lash gave himself serotonin syndrome. This is just dire.
I hate this. Rod needs another.
Okay.

Content fixer. Content rescue.
Rod needs to have a bad trip, and he needs to convert again.

He needs another conversion. He needs another religious smoke.
Yeah.

Islam would be an obvious choice for Rod, but you know what? I'm going to go a little outside the box here. I'm going to say Shaker.
That's a really good one.

You know, I've never heard of a Shaker who isn't prone to fits of mania. So that's kind of

really great for him. I mean, look, their furniture is fucking fantastic.

So, you know, he could maybe do some woodworking and then start shaking when he sees like a cartoon with a transgender character. I'm going to go...

This may be kind of old hat, but I'm going to say Diobandi Islam. All right.
I think Rod.

Or Sufism. he could spin around a lot.

See, that's what he's been doing in this fucking article. He's spinning, spinning his goddamn wheels.

Yeah,

I think,

I don't know. I think if Rod ingratiated himself in Pashun society, he would be like the, he'd finally be like the right mix of like urbane and like bigoted.
He'd be like, you're perfect. We love you.

Rod, brother, brother Rod, please do better. Please try harder.
Like,

I do not say this ironically at all. Rod, you are better than this.
You are a better writer than this. You are a better thinker than this.

Get out of the rancid

ID Paul fucking gutter of the free press, okay?

They're turning you into an ID Paul. They're turning you woke, Rod.
Rod, they killed your Lord.

Think about your editor

hooking up a basketball hoop on the back of the Holy Cross, however you think it's shaped now it is.

Because that's what they does it have the extra little hash on it. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah.

It looks like the stuff that they used in those NBA jam games.

But

just, you know, think about that, Rod.

Look, we've had our differences, but we are fans of yours. Like, we love what you do.
We think there's no one else like you. And you're just, you're capable of so much greater stuff than this.

And we'll find a new like crazy rich guy to pay your salary. We don't care.

He's out there. Look, there's a fucking guy weird enough out there who will pay for whatever.
We'll find him. We'll help you.
We just, we want the guy that we know. We want him back.

We don't want this guy talking about like,

now, you know, there's more fucking iPads than community bowling leagues. Rod, you don't care about that shit.
Come on. Rod, there are demons in our world right now.

They are walking around with human skin and they're turning America into Weimar, Germany. And you're writing about fucking ID, Paul, about identity politics and how it's bad, brother.

Yeah, Dora the Explorer is like, she's like telling kids to experiment with open relationships. And this is what you're writing about.
Yeah, she could be. I can't understand her.

I'm giving coded messages to my kids.

Well,

that does it for today's show. But before we go, we've got a little bit, we've got a few plugs, got a few announcements at the end of the show.
So I'm turning it over to Chris. Yes, hello.

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And we're figuring out how to, if we can get a free digital copy to the people who have already purchased before,

the physical copy of the book before, stand by for that.

And if you want just the physical comic or the digital copy, those are both 15% off now at badegg.co or globalcomics with an x.com.

And finally, to round out the end of the year and move into episode 1000 in the 10th year of chapo trap house strong we have uh finally expanded our social media presence a little bit uh we are now on instagram you know if you if you've been oversaturated with the wonderful x the everything app and want to get us uh and some other platforms we are on instagram at chapotraphouse underscore uh we'll be posting fun stuff there with uh new ways to promote the show and uh get information out about uh special offers on merch and potentially some live shows coming up.

So, follow us over there on Instagram at Chapotraphouse underscore.

All these links will be, plus, all this information will be written out in a blog post and an episode copy. So,

that's it. Those are some great deals, everybody.
Till next time, bye-bye. Bye-bye.

he would ask.

Take a woman like you

to get through

to the man in it.