Cheryl Hines | Club Random with Bill Maher

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Speaker 1 oh yeah i'm just going to say this to you because it's just the two of us in this

Speaker 1 um

Speaker 1 no one's listening

Speaker 1 i just wish bobby could stop saying the things i can't defend you know what i mean

Speaker 1 you have something

Speaker 1 And Cheryl, I know, is here. Hi.
Don't get up. Don't get it.
Okay, I won't get up. I'm all pinned.
I adore you from here. You look awesome.
How are you? I'm good. How are you?

Speaker 1 Look, I tried to find Halloween colors because it's right before Halloween. Oh, your book.
I knocked over your book already. Well, we get right to the plug.
Yeah. Unscripted.
Okay, we will get to it.

Speaker 1 I'll just hold it up the whole show in front of my face. Thank you.

Speaker 1 But this is as close as I. I don't have any orange clothing.
Well, I think orange would be too much.

Speaker 1 I think it's always too much. As clothing?

Speaker 1 Orange? Orange?

Speaker 1 I do not like red on women. You don't? No.
And I've had a number of women over the years that have been a lot of women. Did I impress you with red?

Speaker 1 Well,

Speaker 1 they think men are like a bull. Yeah.
And, you know, if you wear it. It attracts

Speaker 1 like blood-red lingerie, such a turnoff to me. I did not know that.
Well, why would you?

Speaker 1 Well, we've never talked about it until now, but I'm glad to know. I am glad to know.
But that's odd because I wonder if, but there, because lingerie stores, it's mostly black and red, no?

Speaker 1 Well, no, there's like powder blue, you know, I like those kind of pastel something soothing,

Speaker 1 right?

Speaker 1 To even out my

Speaker 1 intensity,

Speaker 1 Exactly.

Speaker 1 No, I don't know that that's why, but I just like, you know,

Speaker 1 I don't like thick

Speaker 1 loud clothes on women. Like, I don't like leather or...
Oh, I'm wearing leather awkward. No, no.
I mean, it looks great on you.

Speaker 1 Backtrack. Okay, thank you.

Speaker 1 No, it's sort of like funny. But like a SNM type of a...

Speaker 1 No, you like that. No, I'm just someone who I might be touching during the night.

Speaker 1 You know, like you're at a. You don't need this in the middle of the night.
It's just

Speaker 1 too, it's too thick. You know, like you can't touch.
You want to feel somebody. The woman.
You want to feel the woman.

Speaker 1 You want to just. I totally get you.
I totally get you. I know you do.

Speaker 1 And I'm so glad you're here.

Speaker 1 I'm so glad to be here. I've been dying to talk to you.
I feel like we have a lot to talk about.

Speaker 1 We certainly could. We certainly could.
We have a lot in common, I think.

Speaker 1 And,

Speaker 1 you know,

Speaker 1 you gave me a great

Speaker 1 subject

Speaker 1 about a year ago to talk about. Oh, my God.

Speaker 1 They attacked you, and I was more than happy. I really appreciate that.
It was a labor of love. I really appreciated.

Speaker 1 I mentioned it in my book. Oh, great.
Yeah. Oh, that's fantastic.
The book, are you talking about Unscripted by Cheryl Hines? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Wow, you really held up well. You look fantastic, both in person and on the cover.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you look just the same as in the cover. Thank you.
This is on the book.

Speaker 1 And that has to be. Something.
And we live in an age of

Speaker 1 hairbrush.

Speaker 1 The least of it. I'm talking about filters and,

Speaker 1 you know.

Speaker 1 Yeah. And then you see someone in person, you're like, whoa, whoa.
The things that young girls

Speaker 1 find

Speaker 1 they must find attractive, because i i know you know not too recently but not crazily long ago i remember some girl i knew and she was on the younger side and would send me pictures of herself that were like

Speaker 1 i'm like wow you think this is attracting me that you look like a fucking science project oh yeah like two

Speaker 1 yeah like like

Speaker 1 I don't think it's something she actually did to herself, although I don't really don't remember.

Speaker 1 I didn't know her very well, but I think it was just more like the filter or like whatever, but whatever it is, it was like

Speaker 1 a real person. Right.
By the time he gets to you, yeah. And obviously, I'm thinking, obviously, you think this is attractive.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 But you'd like to see a poor

Speaker 1 or a

Speaker 1 human. Yeah, that's fair.
You know, and women are beautiful.

Speaker 1 We don't need to like, I mean, and they do it so young. I know.
That is, it is sad, right? Sad. But I think it is because of social media, right?

Speaker 1 I don't know. You have a kid around that age? Yeah, I have a 21-year-old daughter.
Oh. Yeah.

Speaker 1 21 is an interesting age for women. Yeah.
I feel.

Speaker 1 Having known many at that age. I bet you do.
Yeah. No, over the years.
I'm saying. I'm not saying right now you're in.

Speaker 1 I'm not saying I'm not. I'm not saying anything.

Speaker 1 I'm not pinning. But it was like, I feel like women have a brief period when they're wild

Speaker 1 uh you know girls just want to have fun remember that song i do that

Speaker 1 yeah

Speaker 1 that's true

Speaker 1 but it ends like fairly quickly like by the time they're 25 they know what's up they know what's up

Speaker 1 i got better things to do Right, and I'm not experimenting anymore.

Speaker 1 And I'm maybe thinking about, you know, the one and suddenly. you know, it's like

Speaker 1 they get to be a mature person and adult by 25, a woman. Whereas a man is a boy until 25 years.
Could be until he dies.

Speaker 1 Who wouldn't know better than you?

Speaker 1 With that, I'll take a sip.

Speaker 1 No, I'm just saying.

Speaker 1 There's some men in your life who are,

Speaker 1 I mean, Bobby was here. I love him.
Yeah, he loves you. I hope so.
He does. You know, I've done my jokes.
I know.

Speaker 1 i've also done a lot of things in support that most people have not that's true you know yeah um i think he has some amazingly good ideas and he's gutsy like i like almost nobody else is is you know as far as like i will lose my family yeah for what i believe in yeah i will lose friends

Speaker 1 you know i said to him when he was here i said I don't think your father would agree with you on everything you're saying, but I think he'd be very proud of you for the way you stand up for what you believe in.

Speaker 1 I agree, yeah.

Speaker 1 And I, and, you know, one of the points I made in the thing I did about you was that, you know, she made it plain that she doesn't agree with everything.

Speaker 1 That's got to be enough when you're in a marriage. I know.

Speaker 1 It was, it was, I mean, it continues to be sometimes, but yeah, when

Speaker 1 a lot of people are just mad that I'm married to Bobby. They're just mad, Cheryl.
They're just mad. People are just mad.
They're just mad. I know.
It's you today. It's something else tomorrow.

Speaker 1 It's just.

Speaker 1 They just, you can tell in their vitriol.

Speaker 1 You know, what made that piece, I thought, so much better was that it just happened to be after the Democratic Convention.

Speaker 1 And Obama, that week,

Speaker 1 and the person I went after hard was Bradley Whitford,

Speaker 1 who was just what a, and I, like I say, I thank you also because it gave me a chance to, you know, say, this, you know, when people ask me, why should you think about the left these days?

Speaker 1 I'm like, well, I'm not a Republican. That's not going to happen.

Speaker 1 But this level of obnoxiousness that did not exist in the old liberals that I remember. You know, this level of vitriol.
And it was right after Obama and Clinton had got up at the convention and

Speaker 1 made their plea by saying, I forget Obama's exact words, but it was like, we have to stop scolding and shaming.

Speaker 1 We have to stop seeing people as the worst of what they are if we just disagree on one issue.

Speaker 1 I mean, it was, and I remember saying in the piece to Bradley Woodford, did you go to the bathroom when he was, because it's almost like he's speaking directly to you for what you said about Cheryl, which is, you know,

Speaker 1 she must burn in hell because.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it was weird. I mean, I talk about it in the book because I was trying to stay off social media.
I try to, but you know, you get sucked in every so often.

Speaker 1 But I woke up and people were texting me like, whoa,

Speaker 1 this guy's such an asshole. And I thought, oh, you know, I had a lot of guesses who the asshole could be.

Speaker 1 I did not,

Speaker 1 I did not think it would be Bradley Whitford. I was like, whoa, why is Bradley Whitford coming at me?

Speaker 1 Because that he, it could have been, it was him, but it could have been, and was other people. I mean, this town is a bunch of people like that.
Yeah. I mean,

Speaker 1 I get basically the same thing in different forms.

Speaker 1 They are not big thinkers. I'm sorry.
I say it all the time here. People in show business, their talent is awe-inspiring.
Yeah. They're not that bright, with notable exception.

Speaker 1 But they're just, they're not, and they think they are because they're very talented. The problem is, but, you know, somebody sitting in their chair thinks that they could do better

Speaker 1 on the hill. It's like, well, then go on the hill and try to make change, but you're just sitting here criticizing everybody else.
It's, it's,

Speaker 1 yeah, but acting like you, you know better, you would do better. They're all hard jobs that people are doing in D.C.
They're really hard jobs. Yes, and a lot of them are sincere.
Some of them are not.

Speaker 1 But even Trump, you know,

Speaker 1 do I agree with most of it? No. And I hear from him still,

Speaker 1 complaining and bitching and moaning, even after I had, you know, I got the same kind of shit you did when I went to dinner from your TV husband, especially. That was...

Speaker 1 Have you talked to him since then? It's none of my business. I haven't.
That was crazy that he came after you. That was such a...

Speaker 1 Well, a Hitler, like...

Speaker 1 Once you play that Hitler card, first of all, you've lost me. I know.
I mean, first of all, it's from a Jew. It's so insulting to anyone who was actually affected by the Holocaust.

Speaker 1 And I see now that Jimmy Kimmel has offered, he said, I would love to have Trump on as a guest.

Speaker 1 Is he a Hitler talker, too?

Speaker 1 Is now Jimmy Kimmel?

Speaker 1 It's like,

Speaker 1 besides the fact that, you know, you could have waited until you saw how I reacted after the dinner, which was I never stopped criticizing him.

Speaker 1 I have the tapes to prove it. But the fact that you shared the same error was enough to make people crazy.
Shared the same error is the perfect phrase for it. That's exactly what it is.

Speaker 1 And that's, to get back to this point, it's exactly my problem with the left these days. That fucking attitude.
I think in the piece I call them liberals in theory.

Speaker 1 I

Speaker 1 define liberals in theory as liberals are supposed to be compassionate.

Speaker 1 That's their big thing. And accepting everyone

Speaker 1 as who you are. There was nothing compassionate about what he said about you.
Or the simplest kind of compassion, which would be to understand that in a marriage,

Speaker 1 not everything the other person does or says is going to be what you do or what you approve of. And to make the marriage work, you sometimes have to just...

Speaker 1 What marriage doesn't go by that rule. Right.
You have to compromise. You have to step back and talk and listen and say, okay, that drives me crazy.

Speaker 1 And sometimes just eat it. I know.
That's what I remember too about your monologue. It really made me laugh.
It's like, sometimes when you're married, you just have to eat shit.

Speaker 1 And I was like,

Speaker 1 you're not wrong.

Speaker 1 And everybody who's ever been married knows I'm not wrong. I've never even been married and I know I'm not wrong.
Because any relationship. Because any relationship.

Speaker 1 If you have kids, if you have a boyfriend, girlfriend, whatever it is, it's like at some point, sometimes you just have to say, okay,

Speaker 1 we'll get through this moment. And

Speaker 1 we know who we are to each other. And that's what really counts.
But that's what was weird, too, about his tweet where he said a great, what is something about like great.

Speaker 1 Great job, Cheryl. Great.

Speaker 1 Great job. Wait a way to wait away.
Good example for the kids. Yeah, for the kids.
You know, it's like, I shut the fuck up. For the kids.

Speaker 1 It's just, yes, another, one of their liberals in theory, they hate bullying. It's just the worst thing in the world, except when we're...
When they do it.

Speaker 1 Except when we're putting your head in the locker.

Speaker 1 Then it's always acceptable because we know what the truth is. So it's whatever we do to the other person.
Yeah,

Speaker 1 it was all very odd. It's just ugly.
Ugly. But I really appreciate it.
Oh, my God. Oh, yes.
No, no.

Speaker 1 At the time, I was like, wow,

Speaker 1 this is so crazy. And, you know, it got a lot of pickup.
People were writing about it and talking about it. And I, you know, I didn't want anything to do with it to begin with.

Speaker 1 But when you came out, I was like, oh, my God, Bill, I love you.

Speaker 1 I love you back. And I hope I'm not the only one.
I'm sure I'm not.

Speaker 1 I

Speaker 1 think it would be a tragedy, although I wouldn't be surprised if it's the case, that you would lose jobs because this is

Speaker 1 it's a funny it's a town that loves to romanticize the period in the 50s when there was a blacklist and as they should because it was a terrible blacklist but they have their own kind of blacklist now.

Speaker 1 It's not like they

Speaker 1 aren't sort of recapitulating that when it was a witch hunt about communists. Now it's a witch hunt for people who aren't woke enough.
You know, it's not like we're conservatives.

Speaker 1 That's the thing. It's like,

Speaker 1 that's what's going on. That's what's so obnoxious.
That's why I feel like I have a lot in common with you because,

Speaker 1 yeah, that's who I have always been. And I've always been,

Speaker 1 I don't know, I try not to judge people and I am curious about people. And if somebody has a different opinion, I'm interested in listening to it.
But

Speaker 1 these, a lot of people do not,

Speaker 1 like you said, if you're sharing the same air with somebody.

Speaker 1 but again, people who are basically on your team. Like I always say to my woke friends, we voted for the same person.
You're just why she lost.

Speaker 1 I mean, the whole election was cuckoo birds. Yes.

Speaker 1 I was the first one to point that out about Trump, but he's not. You see, this is the thing he signed when I went to

Speaker 1 that.

Speaker 1 Insult he's ever said about me publicly.

Speaker 1 I had him

Speaker 1 printed out, and he signed it, God bless him. He's

Speaker 1 immediately sick. But I earned every one of those.
You know,

Speaker 1 it's not like I was ever deceived before or after I had dinner with him. And I want to have dinner with him again.

Speaker 1 I think he needs more people,

Speaker 1 and he likes talking to people. He does.
That is exactly what somebody was just asking me about when I met him. what surprised me the most.
And I said,

Speaker 1 I was surprised that he really likes likes to listen to people he what he's very curious and what they hated when I said that again because I'm just telling you what happened what should I lie I guess so I guess right he kicked me in the balls under the table and then like I knew he would he threw the spaghetti against the wall when I raised the subject of tariffs no

Speaker 1 no

Speaker 1 yeah he listened

Speaker 1 yeah he I think he actually wants more people around him for a stimulating conversation. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I was very surprised at, and mentioned it again, they hated me for it, that as opposed to so many important people I've met who, when you talk to them, you don't feel like they're really listening.

Speaker 1 They're kind of like,

Speaker 1 you know what I mean?

Speaker 1 And then when they answer you, it doesn't quite track.

Speaker 1 They're just waiting for their turn to talk. Yes.
Or they're just on this different level. I mean, these are soap people, too.
I've had that.

Speaker 1 But I didn't get that with him at all. No, I got a guy who looked in my eyes,

Speaker 1 was listening to what I said, waited until I finished, even when it was contradictory. When it was an he never got blustery or mad about it,

Speaker 1 you know, he said some things that I don't agree with and some things that I think are just, you know, plainly not right, like, you know,

Speaker 1 third term. Yeah, I think you could do it.
I'm having people look into it. No, you can't do it.

Speaker 1 And you could have people look into it from now until the end of time. It's like 12 words in the Constitution.
You can't do it.

Speaker 1 But he didn't get mad. Right.
And then I also made the point that, you know, I went home that night and I was getting into bed in 60 minutes.

Speaker 1 I taped it and there he is in 60 minutes and he's like ranting and raving. I'm like, who's this guy?

Speaker 1 Yeah. This is not the guy I met.
Yeah. And so I'm just the reporter here.
I'm just telling you. This was my experience.
If this is Dr. Jekyll and Mr.
Hyde, find a way to work with Dr. Jekyll.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Or Mr. Hyde.
I forget which one. Yeah.
One of them you want to work with.

Speaker 1 One of them's nice and one of them's not. And I couldn't tell you either.

Speaker 1 But yeah, I think it's,

Speaker 1 you know, it's a matter of style, his leadership. A lot of people

Speaker 1 hate it so much that no matter what he accomplishes, like the day

Speaker 1 the hostages were freed,

Speaker 1 I, Bill, I thought,

Speaker 1 I thought, I woke up, I turned on the TV because I wanted to see if it was actually happening. And it did.
And they were all released.

Speaker 1 And I thought, this is the thing that's going to bring people together because

Speaker 1 everybody wanted that.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 I didn't hear

Speaker 1 people celebrating it. Oh, I did.
And got shit from a lot of media for it. I forget who said their headline was something like, Bill Maher spent six whole minutes praising Trump for it.

Speaker 1 Okay, well, it was a panel with two other people so three of us were talking six minutes on the subject isn't really that outrageous it was kind of the big story of the week it's

Speaker 1 a huge story it was still a huge story it was mark cuban yeah and andrew ross sarkin two really smart guys and me

Speaker 1 and yes we were all kind of in agreement credit where credit is due

Speaker 1 not be in agreement with that because it's it's about their feelings

Speaker 1 it's about how they feel cheryl yeah even about what really happened i know how does it make them feel?

Speaker 1 Not good, because Trump did something good.

Speaker 1 And it's like, I just don't, I'm not going to live in that world.

Speaker 1 And it wasn't just something good. You know, this was what people have been

Speaker 1 fighting for. They've been trying to do this forever.
They've been. Yes.
You know, I was reading Kamala Harris's book and.

Speaker 1 Would you lose a bet? That really made you do a spit.

Speaker 1 Seriously? That really made you do a spit. There's a sentence I never never heard after Pass Me the Anvil.

Speaker 1 I was reading Kamala Harris's book. And they say you're not liberal enough?

Speaker 1 People.

Speaker 1 She's reading Kamala Harris's book, Give the Woman a Break.

Speaker 1 But she was talking about, you know, the hostages and the whole situation.

Speaker 1 She was basically saying it's impossible.

Speaker 1 We tried and it's

Speaker 1 it's like, well, right. But it seemed impossible yet.
Well, and then it happened, and both sides were released. It wasn't just, oh, this side got fooled.

Speaker 1 And that was when I really lost a lot of respect for some people. I lost that respect a while ago.
But to that point,

Speaker 1 you know, if you're in the wing of we don't breathe the same air, and how dare you talk to the president? Right. Why? What am I going to elevate him?

Speaker 1 Oh my God, what's he going to become president of the United States? Right.

Speaker 1 There's no there there to their argument. And here's a very good counter argument.
The Middle East deal shows that, especially with him, everything is personal relationships.

Speaker 1 If you don't get that about him, you're just screaming into the wind.

Speaker 1 I hate Trump more than you do.

Speaker 1 That's all they have.

Speaker 1 Wow, you win the beat a dead horse contest.

Speaker 1 Well, it's true. It is even like the Middle East.
He is, and you're right. And it goes back to when you meet him in person and he listens and

Speaker 1 he really does want peace.

Speaker 1 That's one definite plus with him. Yes.
I learned that at the dinner. Yes.
But you also see it in the actions.

Speaker 1 He really hates war. Yes.
Now, look, I mean, I'm an Obama guy. When Obama said, I'm not against all wars.
I'm just against stupid wars. That's more my position.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 I hope that Trump, you know, first of all, you know, I was not for his plan with Ukraine, which was, I can get a peace deal. Yeah, surrender.
Give Putin everything he wants. And it still didn't work.

Speaker 1 It just shows it worked someplace. Now he just come back from China.
You know, I think, I don't think he's handling China right.

Speaker 1 I think he thinks we have more leverage with China, and China has all the leverage. But in the Middle East, it worked.
And part of the reason why is because they did have those personal relationships.

Speaker 1 Jared Kushner, you know, I mean, I know some of these deals with Bahrain and whatever are probably a little sketchy, and they're going to make a lot of money for the family. Okay, I get it.

Speaker 1 But you know what? We're living in the world we're living in. And the people who like are on their high horse, I mean, look, the head of Saudi Arabia did chop off a reporter's head.

Speaker 1 It's no doubt about it. And for a year, Biden was, I don't talk to you.
And then he had to. Because it's Saudi Arabia.

Speaker 1 It's bad that he should cut off a guy's head, but he's also modernizing the country. And these are the kind of mature,

Speaker 1 yes, difficult kind of compromises that mature people make. And Biden was there a year later fist-bumping the guy that he said he wouldn't talk to because you have to, because it's Saudi Arabia.

Speaker 1 They have the oil. Yeah.
And they're the counterweight to Iran. We need to talk to them.
And the Trump crowd is, they just don't play that game.

Speaker 1 They don't pretend about anything. Some of it goes too far, and they sound semi, or sometimes a little more than semi-racist.

Speaker 1 And lots of stuff I fucking hate that they do. I said when he got elected, I said, I'm not going to pre-hate anything.
And then two weeks later, I went, here's a list of things I hate.

Speaker 1 There's things I hate.

Speaker 1 That must be true with every president, though. No? Not to his degree.

Speaker 1 His sins are much more existential, mostly about democracy and ignoring court orders and like, you know, I don't like ICE, zip-tying children and throwing them in vans.

Speaker 1 There's plenty to complain about. And I have, and he's noticed, you know, and

Speaker 1 I'm not going to go into what's going on, but, you know, I hope to have dinner with him again. And,

Speaker 1 you know, he definitely doesn't like it when you

Speaker 1 critique him and thinks you're being unfair, but he is willing to listen.

Speaker 1 And he totally is not, because I had dinner with him and then didn't become a Trumpist, he will yell at me, but does not want to cut me off.

Speaker 1 He does not want to cut me off, which is something I cannot say about the left.

Speaker 1 They want to cut you off. Well, that is true, because

Speaker 1 the Republicans have been very kind to me from the beginning. Even from the beginning when Bobby was running as a Democrat,

Speaker 1 they weren't mean. No.
And they never have been. No.
And

Speaker 1 I can't say that for the Democrats. I agree.
And it's a... It's sad because it's not the Democrats we grew up with.
Right, yeah.

Speaker 1 And that's the difference that people don't, I think, see. They're like, why did you turn on the Democrats? Well, first of all, I didn't.
Like I said, we voted for the same person.

Speaker 1 But I'm not going to pretend I don't notice

Speaker 1 how different they are.

Speaker 1 How mean they've become

Speaker 1 and also like often just bereft of the facts. I mean like you don't get it about Israel for sure.

Speaker 1 You know, I mean there's some real terrorist happy people in the party that's supposed to be. I always say just the fact that the social justice warriors do not make gender apartheid

Speaker 1 their number one issue. The fact that so many women in the world, yes, mostly Muslim, but not all just Muslim, are beyond second-class citizens, just chattel, really.

Speaker 1 The fact that that isn't your number one issue,

Speaker 1 you already lost me.

Speaker 1 Israel, has it made mistakes? I'm sure it has, blah, blah, blah. Lots of it.
But

Speaker 1 if we're talking about who is oppressing and being oppressed the most in the world that you should care about and be protesting about, that would be it.

Speaker 1 Women who are basically treated as second-class citizens at best.

Speaker 1 And instead, what do you think they're focusing on? Israel. Right.

Speaker 1 Somehow the Jews are. It's.

Speaker 1 One thing can unite the left and right. Got to keep an eye on the Jews.

Speaker 1 15 million people in a world of 8 billion, but boy, they get a lot of attention.

Speaker 1 And, you know, it goes back to the president who is

Speaker 1 willing and able to speak to both sides, to wants peace, wants to

Speaker 1 figure out solutions. I mean, not necessarily in the women's rights department.

Speaker 1 I would say that is

Speaker 1 his bane and his boon. I mean,

Speaker 1 yes, he's a guy who looks at things that are amiss,

Speaker 1 at least in his view, view, but I often agree with what he assesses as something that needs correcting. The border needed correcting.

Speaker 1 Well, now even the Democrats, Bernie Sanders was out there in the news, and Pritzker, the guy who's going to run for president, governor of Illinois, both saying

Speaker 1 Trump was right. Biden fucked it up, and he got in there and he fixed the border.
I mean, that's pretty amazing when you got people like that. saying, okay, you did the right thing.

Speaker 1 So most of the other things, like I agree,

Speaker 1 are colleges insane? Have elite colleges gone out of, yes, that's the mouth of the river for all this crazy woke shit that that's where it comes from.

Speaker 1 And lots of other things where he just, NATO did need to pay more. You know, he identified a problem.

Speaker 1 Mostly, you know,

Speaker 1 or at least largely, he

Speaker 1 has done things which I wouldn't do as the solution. You know, was government bloated? Yes.
Should we bring in Elon Musk with the chainsaw? No.

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 1 That was not the idea. He didn't like the style of that.

Speaker 1 I didn't like that people were killed

Speaker 1 for no good reason. No.
And that's just not the way.

Speaker 1 And if there was any silver lining to that one, it was that we found out that actually

Speaker 1 a lot of the administrations have, when they got in, really took a hard look at where the waste is. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 it's not as much as we thought.

Speaker 1 It really isn't. Oh, when other people looked at the waste or

Speaker 1 what Elon did. There's a lot of waste.
Yeah, but not where they cut it. The waste is like in the Pentagon.

Speaker 1 Not necessarily. Really? Where do you think it is?

Speaker 1 It's all over the world. You know, it's

Speaker 1 funding that we are funding for other countries, you know, that

Speaker 1 there's some. Oh, there's some crazy shit.
Yeah, there's some crazy shit. No, I I remember, I think Bobby did testify about this, and there was stuff in the HHS book.

Speaker 1 And that's an enormous bureaucracy that's health and human services. He's not just head of the CDC or the FDA.
This is health and human. This is what, $180 billion or something in this?

Speaker 1 These are lots of agencies. Yes.
I mean, but that is a sprawling budget. I mean, he must come home with like fucking tons of work.
He does. Yeah, he does.

Speaker 1 Does he take it home?

Speaker 1 he's pretty good at um

Speaker 1 i don't want to say leaving it at the door because that's not necessarily true but what time does he come through the door it depends on the day

Speaker 1 it really but you know there are calls and things going on all hours of the but you're living in washington for the most part yeah

Speaker 1 like in a great place in georgetown or something

Speaker 1 yeah

Speaker 1 georgetown's awesome it's so great i remember

Speaker 1 I I stayed there for a month when I was making the Academy Award-winning movie DC Cab

Speaker 1 I'm sorry I haven't seen that but now but now I'm curious

Speaker 1 it was a big hit though 1983

Speaker 1 Mr. T

Speaker 1 I love Mr. T.
Gary Busey love Gary Busey

Speaker 1 some very very very fine people in there were you guys cab drivers we were cab drivers exactly in Washington DC and what did you know everybody's secrets Because they were talking on the phone.

Speaker 1 No, people didn't have cell phones then. No, but Cheryl, what haunted us was the idea that maybe

Speaker 1 whatever dreams we had for another life were not going to come true and maybe we really were cab drivers. Ah, that was funny.
I wanted to be a musician. But you couldn't.
Well,

Speaker 1 you couldn't. You know what? At the end,

Speaker 1 you played the guitar. No, at the end, I realized it's not so bad to be a cab driver.

Speaker 1 because we were a family oh you died cab drivers yeah

Speaker 1 how would you when would you see each other at the station absolutely just hang out till you got a car of course that's exactly how it went

Speaker 1 now they're making DC uber

Speaker 1 it's it's different people don't know each other and will never see each other they text

Speaker 1 exactly

Speaker 1 yeah but I stayed in Georgetown for for a month. It was really beautiful.
I really loved it. I mean, that's just such a cool neighborhood.
Yeah. It's a beautiful city.
I mean, it's high-end,

Speaker 1 but there's also something a little bohemian about it. Yeah.
You know? Yeah, it's a little... You can wear jeans there.

Speaker 1 I find in D.C., a lot of

Speaker 1 it. And Jetta is not a jeans town.
Absolutely not. That's been tough.
I mean, we're trying to get Fetterman into jeans.

Speaker 1 It can be a step up from the shorts.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it is

Speaker 1 a buttoned-up town. Oh, sub-buttoned-up.
I used to love playing it for the show because the crowd is politically hip. But after the show, I never found the party.

Speaker 1 Maybe it's a little looser now. I've seen some

Speaker 1 type of party, let's be honest. I remember doing the correspondence dinner one year in the 90s, you know, when you're the new American block.
And it was just terrible because half the audience

Speaker 1 just can't be seen laughing at something that

Speaker 1 you're making a joke about their work. Their team.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 it's just a shitty crowd.

Speaker 1 And every year they try to get a political comic and every year it's a disaster. And they should, not every year.

Speaker 1 Stephen Colbert, who I do not like and he doesn't like me and that's fine. But The year, I give him credit for that.
The year he did it in front of Bush was a genius performance,

Speaker 1 a great use of true satire.

Speaker 1 But generally it's a disaster. They should just get a juggler or somebody who's apolitical.
Right, right. They think they can put, they can shoehorn politics into that.
But it doesn't work.

Speaker 1 It's really. But it's not funny.
It's like, no, I tried to get that bill passed for two years and you're making fun of it yet. Right.

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Speaker 1 I know because now, like an insider,

Speaker 1 you know, I see things from a different perspective. And it's

Speaker 1 like what?

Speaker 1 Oh, just,

Speaker 1 you know, counting votes and

Speaker 1 do we have your support? The minutiae. Yeah, and it's like, we, we, and even like the human trading.

Speaker 1 Yeah, horse trading. And

Speaker 1 tomorrow, a lot of stuff is like popping off every day. Like, tomorrow we're making an announcement.
Bobby has to do that.

Speaker 1 Like, he has to do that kind of horse trading with senators and congressmen to get their support on shit um I wouldn't say he does horse trading but uh but

Speaker 1 you know something like

Speaker 1 favored nations drug pricing

Speaker 1 you know that that was not easy to do

Speaker 1 favored nations drug pricing yeah so the president and and Bobby

Speaker 1 It was really important to the president that Americans don't pay more for pharmaceutical drugs than other countries. So we've been paying sometimes

Speaker 1 100% more, 500% more. There's no laws about it.
No. It's crazy.
And so

Speaker 1 to get that to happen. What to happen? So we're fixing that.
Yeah. Oh.
Well, we've had

Speaker 1 big

Speaker 1 pharmaceutical companies come in and say, yes, we're doing it. We're not going to charge Americans more than we charge other countries.
Yeah, I read about Pfizer. Yeah, Pfizer.
I mean,

Speaker 1 what that's amazing that they you know that these companies are coming forward and saying yes we'll do it because

Speaker 1 you know

Speaker 1 it's gonna be I don't want to say a loss for them but

Speaker 1 when you know a drug price was $1,200 and now it's going to be $200 right like some somebody somewhere is having to shift

Speaker 1 so things like that you know where it's you're but we're really doing that that's gonna happen

Speaker 1 It's already happening. Okay.
Yeah. And it's going

Speaker 1 well, that's another one. Right.
I'm gonna be mad about this.

Speaker 1 Not just not mad, but how about Gib credit? Celebrate if they did it. Because that certainly has been on the Democratic wish list forever.
No. As it should be.

Speaker 1 I remember when Obamacare was first getting off the ground, the first thing they did.

Speaker 1 was have the pharmaceutical companies in because they understood if we don't have some support from these motherfuckers,

Speaker 1 nothing is happening after that.

Speaker 1 And so, people, of course, the purists,

Speaker 1 always the cowardiest people in the world, because it's so easy to be a purist. We're like, oh, he's making deals with pharmaceuticals.
Yes, he's making deals.

Speaker 1 That's how it's done because nobody gets everything. And Obamacare, you know, we should have had a public option.

Speaker 1 We should have, shoulda, shoulda.

Speaker 1 And this is what's practical. This is what's what was possible.
The art of the possible is what they say politics is. I mean, it passed by one vote.
Well, that's what I'm talking about.

Speaker 1 That's what I'm talking about, you know, being an insider looking good, where it's like

Speaker 1 this person needs this to happen to say yes to that thing.

Speaker 1 And, you know, calls are going back and forth that sometimes you don't even know if it's going to happen until the press, you know, conference and you're.

Speaker 1 Can you see this because he's like on the phone while you're in the room

Speaker 1 well i see it because i know

Speaker 1 uh

Speaker 1 that

Speaker 1 it's on the table i mean it's not a secret you know that that's not a secret that they that it was really important to give favored nations drug pricing for americans but also politicians famously

Speaker 1 and i'm not saying it's a bad thing talk to their wives you know i think i think trump talks to milania a lot i think she's quite influential I don't have any like hard evidence of that.

Speaker 1 I just, first of all, there's just been a huge change you can see

Speaker 1 in the fact that

Speaker 1 they like each other again. There was a period where, you know, remember the slapping of the hand? But by the way, I read Melania's book, and there was a reason for that.

Speaker 1 The slapping of the hand. Because she said that they were walking on a you know, pathway on a sidewalk, and then it became narrow.
And she wanted him to go ahead of her. And he tried to hold her hand.

Speaker 1 And she, you know, was just like, no, I'm going to walk behind because there's not enough room on the sidewalk. So she talks about that in her book.

Speaker 1 And she talks about, yeah, but people came after us and said, can you believe this? And

Speaker 1 it's like, what if she,

Speaker 1 you know, if she spent time addressing every thing that people said. And, and, and she also talked about,

Speaker 1 you know, she supports a woman's right to choose, and

Speaker 1 she said a lot of things in her book that, of course.

Speaker 1 I think he talks to her a lot. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I think he really,

Speaker 1 I think it's very unreported, and I'm just guessing, but it's sort of my impression is that he actually goes to her for counsel and that she is a

Speaker 1 moderating influence, as is Ivanka, probably.

Speaker 1 I would, I would, I mean, you know, it's good to have women around you. It's good to have women around you.

Speaker 1 Oh, that's why I came on your show, Bill. I want to tell you that.
It's always good to have women around you, whether they're wearing leather or red lace. You know what? Just let them be.

Speaker 1 Red clothes are even worse. You know who used to?

Speaker 1 Well, all I can think of is Nancy Reagan.

Speaker 1 Oh, well.

Speaker 1 Republican women

Speaker 1 iconically wear red. Oh, so even just you looking at a red dress, you're like, well, Republican.
No, this is way before MAGA. I didn't like a red dress.
I just feel like a bull.

Speaker 1 I'm telling you, it's like, oh, you're going to run at this. It's like, I don't know what you're saying.
Look over here.

Speaker 1 It's just not a sexy color.

Speaker 1 I think you might be alone in this.

Speaker 1 I don't care.

Speaker 1 Why should I care? We're all alone in our taste. We are.
And we should be. As we should be.
And we shouldn't be judged for it, like I'm judging you right now. I'm not.

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 1 I mean, it's color? Who gives a shit?

Speaker 1 It's like saying, why don't you like mustard? Because I don't. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Because I don't. Get off my back.
I know. I thought about that, too, when Bobby was announcing, as he was running.
I really thought, oh, what color am I going to wear?

Speaker 1 Because do you have to think about it? You mean for the announcement? Yeah, for his announcement. Oh, there's a lot you have to think about.
Yeah. I mean,

Speaker 1 you cannot walk out of the house without your armor on, I'm guessing. I mean, psychologically.
Am I wrong? Oh, you're right. You have to be be like

Speaker 1 because you know the press i i know people think they're nice they're not your friends and they're not trying to be your friends their motto is i didn't come here to make friends yeah i came here to get a scalp on the wall and if it's yours

Speaker 1 so be it it's not my problem i'm doing my job man i'm just a hunter with a rifle and you're just a deer in the headline

Speaker 1 and you knew you were walking out in the field and you knew it you knew it right it was a risk you took and absolutely how it worked out.

Speaker 1 No, it's true, it's true. You know, when you don't know,

Speaker 1 I'm not even a politician, you know what I mean? I'm not even a politician, and people well, when you're the wife of Bobby Kennedy, you are

Speaker 1 de facto

Speaker 1 involved to a degree. You are a politician.
You just, you know, you can sing the song What I Did for Love.

Speaker 1 What I Did for Love. What show is that from? Oh,

Speaker 1 it's a great song, right? Is it the you sing it,

Speaker 1 What I did for

Speaker 1 love.

Speaker 1 I can't, I'm too stoned to sing because I can't hear it in my head. No.

Speaker 1 But it's a great, you know this story. You know, what song?

Speaker 1 It must be from a Broadway show. I feel like it's definitely from a Broadway show.

Speaker 1 Somebody here must know, no? Well, we don't, we don't

Speaker 1 let them in. We're the only ones here.
Thank you. That's what I love about this show.
We're the only ones here. I know nobody's around.

Speaker 1 You know, this is, we're going back to the time when people didn't look things up. You just have to do it.

Speaker 1 If we don't know what Broadway show,

Speaker 1 then we don't deserve it. If we don't know it by now, we don't deserve to know.

Speaker 1 It will come to us. It'll come to us.
It will come to us. Let us.
I know. Now I feel like I need to know.

Speaker 1 I'm going to let it go. What's it all about, Alfie? No.
But

Speaker 1 it would fit you. You could sing that song because you've given up a lot for love.

Speaker 1 Well, I think we all do.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 1 this is a very particular situation.

Speaker 1 This is very specific. But I didn't see coming.

Speaker 1 Any political wife gives up a lot for love. Or husband.
Or husband. Yeah.

Speaker 1 You mean the almost first gentleman?

Speaker 1 Did you know him?

Speaker 1 No, no, no.

Speaker 1 Doug M. Hoff.
That sounds right.

Speaker 1 I know, and I just read the book. I think that's his last name.
Somehow,

Speaker 1 I think Doug M. Hoff has heard the words.
That sounds right about him many times in his life. Anyway, Doug M Hoff,

Speaker 1 who, look, I'm sure he's a very nice guy.

Speaker 1 I don't know why I have to bring this up, but we're talking about it now. But he was credibly accused of sexual

Speaker 1 mispeasants, shall we say, during the campaign. Oh, I didn't know.

Speaker 1 Really? That never got on your radar? No, there was a lot of other crap on my radar.

Speaker 1 Well, that just shows you when the left-wing bubble wants to close the wagons and make you not see it.

Speaker 1 No, look, I'm not saying he did anything that should have disqualified her in any way, but they just did cover it up, and it was very similar to other things that they have blown crazy out of proportion.

Speaker 1 It seemed credible. It was in Khan.
He was on a date. This is before Kamala.
And

Speaker 1 he just acted like in a terribly rude, horrible, misogynistic way. And it was just like, no, no, he's her husband.
We don't see that. You know, they did him on Saturday Night Live in sketches.

Speaker 1 And it was just like, oh, kind of boring, you know, Doug

Speaker 1 Douglas. Doug, sweet dog.
And like, that thing was just when they want to disappear a person

Speaker 1 or an idea.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 They take that very seriously.

Speaker 1 I know, you know, Trump disappears people into vans, and I'm not for that. But you can disappear an idea.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Well, especially if you control the media.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and look, they have a lot of the media, too. It's just that we each have our own media.
Yes, and that's all people watch. They watch the one that they like to hear what they're saying.

Speaker 1 I know. It was really during the.
What do you guys watch?

Speaker 1 You know, I like News Nation.

Speaker 1 I like News Nation because

Speaker 1 it's my boy Cuomo. Cuomo.
Yeah. Love him.
I do too. Pretty.

Speaker 1 And I I like that they,

Speaker 1 you know, talk about both sides.

Speaker 1 Exactly. And the free press does that.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 I love that. Yeah.

Speaker 1 It is very hard to get both sides.

Speaker 1 I look at, you know, I read the New York Times and the New York Post.

Speaker 1 Because, like, it's just amazing. It's only when I read them both where I'm like, okay, now I fully understand the situation.
No, that's what I have to do when I watch the news.

Speaker 1 I'll have to watch CNN and then I'll have to watch Fox News and then I'll have to figure out, okay,

Speaker 1 what's up? No, watch my show because I will give you both in one show. By the way, that's what I love about you.
Yeah, thank you. I love you.
I will give you both in one show.

Speaker 1 You're like, here's what's happening. You might

Speaker 1 hate hearing this. Right.
But here's the real. What's happening? Here's the real on both of them.
Yes. There's a lot to be said about both of them.
And

Speaker 1 yeah, and it's odd that

Speaker 1 there's not more of that.

Speaker 1 It's odd that there's not more of somebody just reporting the news instead of

Speaker 1 a lot of feelings in the news. There's such a cognitive dissonance between

Speaker 1 the news

Speaker 1 and our actual lives. Like, if you absolutely could block out all the news, if you didn't even know who the president was,

Speaker 1 I would guess your life is pretty sweet.

Speaker 1 You live in Georgetown. You're married to an exciting guy.

Speaker 1 That is true.

Speaker 1 He is. He is.

Speaker 1 He's fascinating. And exciting people are going to be flawed.
That's true. You know,

Speaker 1 I mean, Hillary never left Bill. I always thought she was great for that.
And she, there was some point along the way, and they asked her when she was talking about it. And she said, yeah,

Speaker 1 you know, I think she literally said the words, he's a hard dog to keep on the porch.

Speaker 1 Which is awesome, if it's true. And even if it's not, it's still awesome.

Speaker 1 But it doesn't sound like something she'd say.

Speaker 1 She doesn't strike me as somebody who says, like, my mama used to always say. Well, she did live in Arkansas for a long time.

Speaker 1 We could look it up, but we're not going to do it now.

Speaker 1 But we're not going to. And

Speaker 1 by the time we're done with this, we're going to not think about the porch and the dog. It'll both be canceled by the time we're done with it.

Speaker 1 That's true.

Speaker 1 They're not going to let me back in D.C. either where we're done with it.
But she said, Bill, she said, you know,

Speaker 1 it was a long time ago. I don't want to mangle her words, but the essence of it was, I've never met a more interesting person in my life.
So, you know what?

Speaker 1 Go fuck yourself. I'm going to stick with the person.

Speaker 1 There's nobody I'd rather talk to shit about.

Speaker 1 And I think what she was thinking is like, you know, in time he will calm down.

Speaker 1 What?

Speaker 1 I like that you're. I like that you spend so much time thinking about what Hillary Clinton.
I like that you really like, you took those words in and you're like,

Speaker 1 I know what she's saying. Because I think it applies to me.
In what way? You know, I think in time he will calm down. Have you calmed down? You calmed down.
Yes.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 there's someone who I give a lot of credit for thinking that about me.

Speaker 1 That you calm down? That I would calm down. I never said I thought you would calm down.
You're the one that just said that. No, I'm just saying.
I give a lot of credit to someone who had that faith.

Speaker 1 I think at some point he will calm down.

Speaker 1 But you don't want to be completely calm because then you're boring. That's right.

Speaker 1 So I'd rather have the interesting part. I mean, life's short enough.
And

Speaker 1 let's be there for the interesting parts. And like I say,

Speaker 1 reading the news, you can get yourself into a lather of anxiety. But your actual life,

Speaker 1 if you didn't know, you're wearing great clothes. I love the leather.

Speaker 1 Don't back that up.

Speaker 1 It does really look good.

Speaker 1 It's a great outfit.

Speaker 1 I don't like women in leather. It's a great outfit.
You meant like a leather bikini. I meant like,

Speaker 1 yes, like a leather

Speaker 1 that's... I'm not really thinking about this.
Okay.

Speaker 1 No, I do have a good life. I have a great life.

Speaker 1 A lot of people do, and many don't, and we care about them. Yeah.
And that's compassion. And that's like, you know,

Speaker 1 the Republicans definitely lack a certain chip for compassion in general. They do.
Which is strange because that's what I always thought that was the backbone of

Speaker 1 Republicans? No, Democrats. Democrats.
Democrats.

Speaker 1 That is the backbone. It's not feel, but it doesn't, it's not feeling like that.
Their head is up their ass on so many things that

Speaker 1 their goal is compassion and they wind up doing the reverse. Great example.
We live in California.

Speaker 1 They were very compassionate about the environment and so they made it a law that you couldn't like fuck with this some kind of shrub that was going to be endangered if you.

Speaker 1 And it was like brush for the fire. And the fire caused actual more pollution.

Speaker 1 I don't know if you have one of those little dials in your home that tells you the quality of the air, but this week it was horrible. Oh, really? Yes.

Speaker 1 I mean, like when it's fine, it's a little man who's green, grinning.

Speaker 1 And then if it's pretty, if it's getting a little worse, it's like he's yellow and like

Speaker 1 in orange.

Speaker 1 And what are you supposed to, you're not supposed to? Well, I don't know what that's from.

Speaker 1 Is that but the fires? I've read the stats. The pollution from the fires was worse than like anything.

Speaker 1 Worse than all the cars and and it reversed like 20 years of progress that we did by you know affecting the car situation or making it better.

Speaker 1 I mean, so like you can just stupid your way to the opposite effect, you know. And there's a lot of that because it's just very important to these people that they are seen as the good people.

Speaker 1 So they just wind up having the reverse effect, I think, often, well-meaning as they are. But it's just very, very, very important to them to be seen as the good people.

Speaker 1 And what they're willing to do to get that reputation sometimes is counterproductive. It's true.
And

Speaker 1 they can

Speaker 1 be very judgmental.

Speaker 1 I mean I guess both sides can, but of course. Yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 1 But if it's somebody who's who all your life is telling you they accept everybody no matter who they are. They're perfect the way they are.
And then suddenly it's like, except

Speaker 1 you're not great. He's not great.
Don't talk to that person. They're not.

Speaker 1 It's very hypocritical about heterosexual relationships

Speaker 1 that are age inappropriate for the people who are supposed to be.

Speaker 1 I was born that way.

Speaker 1 This is what my body is telling me to do.

Speaker 1 Do people give you a hard time? You don't have to answer. Yeah, they do.
And I don't give a fuck if they do. I'm sure you don't.
This is what my body is telling me to do.

Speaker 1 I'm honoring my body. And by the way, it's what 90% of men's bodies are telling them to do.
You're just acting on it. Get with a 20-year-old.
That's what their bodies are telling them to do.

Speaker 1 If you can.

Speaker 1 If you can.

Speaker 1 And no, no. But I'm just saying, you know, I don't know what I'm saying.
No,

Speaker 1 you were saying that this group is saying that they accept everybody that they are.

Speaker 1 You're dating a younger

Speaker 1 woman and it's like the most judgmental people in the world. Again.
And which is okay, but then don't act like you're not. This is what's

Speaker 1 so frustrating about the times we live in. Like, politically, I am more with the Democrats and the liberals,

Speaker 1 especially on the issue of, you know, democracy and

Speaker 1 trying to preserve it.

Speaker 1 But on the other issues,

Speaker 1 they just... they just get under my skin, the left, so much.

Speaker 1 Whereas the right, you know, you could have this conversation and, you know, all my friends on the right, Kid Rock, who brought me to the White House, people like that, Dana White, Trump himself, all these people, you can have these conversations.

Speaker 1 Charlie Kirk was here. All these people, you can have these conversations and come to that point.

Speaker 1 I remember when Dana was here, when all of them were here, probably, we get to that point where we're kind of yelling at each other.

Speaker 1 And then I always take it back down.

Speaker 1 And by the time they leave, we're all great friends. Yeah.
And they're okay with that.

Speaker 1 The left isn't that way. No.

Speaker 1 They're more like, no, if you're not with me, I fucking hate you. And you're a deplorable, or you're with the deplorables, or you're talking to the deplorables, or you had dinner with Hitler.

Speaker 1 I know. And it's just like, it's like, you people are so, you're such babies.

Speaker 1 You're so

Speaker 1 not sophisticated people. To quote another show on our network, you are not serious people.

Speaker 1 Serious people talk to each other and they accept that you're going to get to this point where you don't agree.

Speaker 1 Again, the marriage thing,

Speaker 1 it's very comparable to politics. There are things you're just going to go, I don't know.
No, I agree to disagree. What the fuck, but can we fix this together? Yeah.
And can you not hate me?

Speaker 1 And if you don't hate me, maybe I'll, you know, let's just, you know, let's just, I see that

Speaker 1 we have Marjorie Taylor Green on our show Friday. That'll be interesting.
Very on Halloween.

Speaker 1 By the way, I've met I've met Marjorie too and I she was very nice.

Speaker 1 I mean you know that people are gonna be mad at me for even saying that but she's like my line is everybody's a monster till you talk to them. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Well, no, I don't know I'm not saying she's a monster either, but yeah, but I'm saying

Speaker 1 she's a monster till you talk to them. And then they're not.
And then they're not because they're just people. Because they're people.

Speaker 1 You know, during the election, I remember

Speaker 1 when you know the primaries right before the primaries and

Speaker 1 and it wasn't clear who was going to be the nominees right especially Republican although at one point it was like oh very clear it was going to be Donald Trump and I remember talking to one of my friends who said can you believe it and I said I can

Speaker 1 and I said and I said and and I think what we should be talking about is

Speaker 1 half of the country really supports that really supports him so what why do they

Speaker 1 and she was like

Speaker 1 looked at me like I just had given her

Speaker 1 a little tablet of poison

Speaker 1 I saw I said have I said have I said something and she was just like

Speaker 1 How could you even say that? I know. I was like, oh, well, aren't you curious? Like,

Speaker 1 why aren't you curious about, are you, are you curious? Do you think there's any part of that answer that might be in the mirror

Speaker 1 is what I would say to the, you know, any part of the answer. Not the whole answer.
Yeah. I agree.
Yeah. But just any part of that answer that might be in the mirror.

Speaker 1 Because I remember after the election, and, you know, I won't say who, but a very respected editor, iconic even.

Speaker 1 And his comment was, well, we're not as good at people as we thought we were.

Speaker 1 Half of our people are bad people.

Speaker 1 I mean, that was the

Speaker 1 paraphrasing.

Speaker 1 That was the takeaway from the election. Half of our people are just bad people.
We're the good people. Right.
And we know who the good people are. Right.
Okay. But

Speaker 1 we want to make sure that they... Right.

Speaker 1 And what we have to do is make sure that the good people own and destroy the bad people. See, both sides think that.
They don't want to compromise. Both sides.

Speaker 1 I just want to own you and destroy you, which is a great strategy, left-wingers, until they're the ones who completely own and destroy you, which they now have. I mean, there's no checks on Trump.

Speaker 1 Okay? So you,

Speaker 1 yeah, somebody got owned and destroyed, and it was you.

Speaker 1 So maybe that wasn't the greatest strategy. Right.
But now they're doubling down on that, you know?

Speaker 1 Who is doubling down?

Speaker 1 The woke people who will, you know, the people who thought it was great that

Speaker 1 Larry said that I was Hitler for having dinner with Hitler or whatever, whatever. I didn't even read it, but I got the gist of it.
I'm Hitler or I'm having dinner with Hitler.

Speaker 1 You're having dinner with Hitler. We're fine because he's a good person.

Speaker 1 To the people who just want to beat the dead horse of I hate Trump more than you, and that makes me a better person, great. Again,

Speaker 1 I have the thing with 56 insults, so I think

Speaker 1 I can come to this fight. Did he read those?

Speaker 1 No, I read some of them to them at the time. And I'm sure he laughed and also said he.
Oh, he did.

Speaker 1 Don't say that.

Speaker 1 You know what he said?

Speaker 1 I was having some of these.

Speaker 1 You know, another thing, he does laugh. Oh, I know.
He never laughs in public, but he does laugh. I mean, like, he was laughing when I was, you know, dopey, dumb, dummy, trouble,

Speaker 1 terrible student, not considered smart, no mojo, nervous, low-life dummy, so-called comedian, not a smart guy, better than somanex, feel like a dog, fired like a dog. I mean,

Speaker 1 the fact that somebody would have in their head, if I tried to come up with 56 different ones,

Speaker 1 I couldn't do it. No.
And he just went, you know, it was different times.

Speaker 1 And you said it was yesterday. The last one's from yesterday.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 He's really

Speaker 1 humor, which, by the way, I'm sure that. Also, he said something in the press,

Speaker 1 not a lot of coverage, coverage, but I thought it was very telling and I thought it was very real about six months ago. And he said, what people don't get about me is I have no permanent enemies.

Speaker 1 And when you think about it, a lot of the people he fired, he brings back. You know, they've been on the outs, they're on the ins.

Speaker 1 For all his bad points, he's very flexible. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I mean,

Speaker 1 there's a bad side to that, but like, there's also a good side to that. Yeah.
And, like, I think he's right. I don't think he has permanent enemy.
I'm a perfect example.

Speaker 1 Like for years, it was just this, you know, this thing. He would talk about it at the rallies.

Speaker 1 Like, there's this lunatic, there's this low-life dummy, this highly overrated, increasingly boring comedian in court. I'm sure he talks about your ratings.
He's a befuddled mess. His show is dead.

Speaker 1 Guy. Oh, right in the heart.
And, you know, he says that I'm not going to give up power. And then, of course, he didn't give up.

Speaker 1 Didn't faze him at all.

Speaker 1 The thing he was complaining about actually happened.

Speaker 1 You think he's going to run in 2020 80? They

Speaker 1 keep talking about

Speaker 1 we're going to find something. It does seem

Speaker 1 highly unlikely.

Speaker 1 But also.

Speaker 1 How's Bobby getting along with him these days? He gets along with him really well. Still, so there was no,

Speaker 1 I mean there was for a minute there was talk in the press that

Speaker 1 something I forget what it was but something maybe it was just they made up a story that Trump was like oh he's gonna but that never was never close.

Speaker 1 No no

Speaker 1 I mean that's the other thing too about being on the inside and looking at it they

Speaker 1 people create little stories and they

Speaker 1 And then they catch fire. And then that's a news cycle.
And so you really do know what's going on, what's not. And the thing about all they care about is clicks.
That's all they care about.

Speaker 1 That's all they care about. Does not matter if it's true or not.
This is like a distant force to

Speaker 1 do it. Clicks.

Speaker 1 It can drive you insane.

Speaker 1 Do you read it?

Speaker 1 I don't. It depends on

Speaker 1 it. Day-to-day.
Do you not?

Speaker 1 I don't know if I would even know how to get on any of these things anymore. Really?

Speaker 1 I usually don't. I mean, I really.
The likes I get. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And this, I mean, like, sometimes I go home Friday night. I'm like, oh, wow, that was such a great show.
And I'm like,

Speaker 1 yeah, I guess I could go on Twitter, but then I'd see the people who hated it. Yeah.
So I, you know, like, any like I get is like texting. It's like a personal

Speaker 1 person I know. Yeah.
Well, that's. And that means a lot to me.
It's like somebody who I respect and know is like, wow. you hit it out of the park.
That was a great thing.

Speaker 1 Yeah. And it's, you know, it's not as many likes as you would get uh

Speaker 1 um but to me it's more meaningful yeah you know I heard somebody say once um

Speaker 1 you shouldn't take

Speaker 1 uh criticism from somebody you wouldn't take advice from

Speaker 1 and it's like yeah wow that makes sense so you have people that don't know you commenting on how awful you are and it's like oh

Speaker 1 you should do a show That's what you should do now. What kind of show? You know what? Fuck fuck the acting thing.

Speaker 1 You know, that You are never going to convince the 90% of the cowards in this town who I'm telling you, very talented, not that bright.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 they're very afraid of being on the wrong side of an issue.

Speaker 1 So it's just easier just to like, just get behind Professor Mark Ruffalo. He knows everything about Israel.

Speaker 1 You know, so just do that. And you're always going to be safe doing that.
There's always going to be safe attacking you.

Speaker 1 That was always going to be the safe choice because you're on the wrong team now. So just attacking you is very safe.
We don't have to look into it more and we don't want to because we're actors.

Speaker 1 We're not readers, okay? If we were readers, we'd be different categories. We're actors, okay? We read the part that makes us sound good.

Speaker 1 And if that part is saying, we must stop genocide, yeah, well, you don't know what genocide is. You've got your facts wrong.
You don't know your history. You get everything from TikTok.
But I get it.

Speaker 1 It's a better speech. It's a better speech than 400 million women around the world can't dress the way they would like to.

Speaker 1 I mean, can you imagine just not having the choice to dress the way you want to?

Speaker 1 Taking leather out of the situation. Yeah, no, I would be, where would I be without my leather pants?

Speaker 1 No,

Speaker 1 it is hard to imagine what's going on in some countries, really hard to imagine. I think that's the way to, I just really, I think that's the way to frame that issue, to get women involved.

Speaker 1 Can you imagine living in a society where you did not have the freedom to choose what you wanted to wear?

Speaker 1 I mean, by the way,

Speaker 1 it's more so not having the freedom to get an education. That's...
True. Yeah.
So, I mean, there are a lot of things we can put on this list.

Speaker 1 There are more places and countries where a woman can get an education.

Speaker 1 They're not all Afghanistan where you can't. That's the far end of the spectrum.
But where you also still couldn't dress the way you wanted to.

Speaker 1 You certainly couldn't leave your pretty blonde hair showing. I know.
It's really hard to. It's just a choice.
I feel like that should be a choice. The fact that

Speaker 1 some on the left have taken the, you know, the head covering as a sign of liberation, it's like, wow, your head is really up your ass.

Speaker 1 If you think that's a sign of liberation,

Speaker 1 you know.

Speaker 1 I almost did a spit take. What? I almost did a spit take.

Speaker 1 And ruined that leather.

Speaker 1 I want to ruin my leather. At least it wasn't red leather.

Speaker 1 Oh, that would drive you crazy. What if you walked in? It was like red leather head to toe.
You would have walked right out. Yeah, but if the girl was hot enough, I could forget.

Speaker 1 You get over it. You'd be like, guys are like that.
Yeah, it's like, okay, tonight's. It gets into a whole bit about like, you know, especially when you're younger.

Speaker 1 If you wanted to get late, no matter what a woman said, you didn't ready. I steeled myself to some really bad personalities way too late in life.
Let me ask you this: for how long can you do that?

Speaker 1 Let's say you meet a girl and she's really hot, you're very attracted,

Speaker 1 and let's say you have sex with her on the first night.

Speaker 1 Oh, I like where you're going.

Speaker 1 So,

Speaker 1 if

Speaker 1 like if the pillow talk is, you realize, whoa,

Speaker 1 whoa, we do not have anything in common, then are you still the next night like, hey, you up?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 No, you're describing a different guy. Okay.

Speaker 1 Not look, I never got married, and that's for a reason. Yeah.
Some people, you know, don't get married because they don't like girls at all. Some people don't get married because they like them a lot.

Speaker 1 That's your category. Right.

Speaker 1 But I was never really like that um first night guy really i'd have liked to be

Speaker 1 you just didn't have the option you didn't have the game i mean it's happened sometimes but um first of all when it could have happened more i i was i was stupid about um as men are like i did not really understand who i was very well

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Speaker 1 Were you famous?

Speaker 1 No, I mean. Okay, this is when you were not famous.
But did it make a difference after you? But I'm still not famous to any woman usually under 30.

Speaker 1 Interesting. They have no idea who I am, which is great.

Speaker 1 You have to work harder.

Speaker 1 No, it's just like...

Speaker 1 You have to say, you want to watch my show?

Speaker 1 That sounds like it's going going to be good. It isn't.
But it never is because then they're, I mean, people who are like fans, then they're like too nervous. Right.

Speaker 1 When you go to have sex, they're like,

Speaker 1 they're just frozen. I'm telling you.
Yeah, yeah, it's happened more than once. They just like, they're too like.
You're like, I can't believe I'm doing it.

Speaker 1 I guess so.

Speaker 1 I guess so. But it's like,

Speaker 1 it's so much better to have somebody like,

Speaker 1 first of all, yes, you know they're like you're for you. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And they're not like overwhelmed by the experience. Yeah.

Speaker 1 You know, which is,

Speaker 1 you know, that's not exactly a pussy wetner being overwhelmed. You know, so.
I like that you want to keep women underwhelmed.

Speaker 1 That's what I'm hearing you say. Underwhelmed by my celebrity, overwhelmed by who I am.
You know, okay. I thought you were going to say your skills.
No, but I'm not out there. I'm not, look,

Speaker 1 that's not who I even am any.

Speaker 1 I'm not out there trying to find women. I'm totally.

Speaker 1 No. But there was a day when you were.

Speaker 1 Oh, definitely. There was a day.
A few days. Many days.
And so you have calmed down, settled down.

Speaker 1 Totally. And I don't like to reveal

Speaker 1 too many specifics about my real life. I don't think that's ever productive in show business, but I'll just say I'm extremely happy.

Speaker 1 I'm very extremely happy. So that's a good idea.
Okay, and you don't have to answer this question.

Speaker 1 Are you extremely happy because you have someone that you like to hang out with?

Speaker 1 A yes, that one.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 That's so, see, is it that

Speaker 1 it's so nice? It's so nice. Oh, I mean, nice.
It's like you hit on different, on different levels, not just like one person. I hit on different women.

Speaker 1 But now you're not. No.
No. No, I don't want to.
And I'm too old to. And

Speaker 1 no, everything came out in the wash. But,

Speaker 1 you know,

Speaker 1 I

Speaker 1 have probably more regrets about that part of my life than any other part of my life because

Speaker 1 the fact that the stupidity reigned so late.

Speaker 1 Just no look.

Speaker 1 No, I'm taking it in. I'm taking it in.
It said it all.

Speaker 1 I didn't need any comments. I don't know.

Speaker 1 No, I was just thinking. No, Bill, I was just thinking because.

Speaker 1 But it does. Yeah, because

Speaker 1 you want to to have somebody.

Speaker 1 It's nice to find somebody who

Speaker 1 you can share your experiences with. Right.
And

Speaker 1 if it doesn't, if you don't find the right person, then it's not, then it doesn't work. Then you might as well just fuck around.
You know what I mean? There's only two real pleasures in life.

Speaker 1 I can't wait.

Speaker 1 I think.

Speaker 1 No. There's doing what we're doing.
Just talking, having an awesome time, connecting mentally, like having a couple of drinks, smoking, and just that's just nothing like mental ping pong. I agree.

Speaker 1 And fucking. Everything else is kind of secondary.
I mean, yeah. You're just filling time till you get to do it again.

Speaker 1 No, there's something wonderful about, you know, taking a bath and snuggling up and watching a movie and like, you know, bowling. This is very intimate because you don't do that.

Speaker 1 You're doing dinner with friends, but it's nothing is as good as this or fucking.

Speaker 1 because it's intimate you're because you're truly connecting with somebody i've said to people i've said i i i i hate that i have to decide between kissing you and talking to you oh that's very sweet and sexual that's a very sweet but it's true that's true it's been true that's a very sweet sensation yeah well try getting it though I mean, it's not like that grows on trees.

Speaker 1 No, I know. That feeling with someone and having that with someone.
And sometimes you have it and then you don't have it. And, you know, I mean, it's like, that's a feeling that's

Speaker 1 that's a high you're always chasing that's true you know so if you catch it you need to feel like you should hold on

Speaker 1 well you shouldn't it up you shouldn't it up that's i mean that's what men's usual trip up is love to fuck it up

Speaker 1 they don't like it they can't pick a hit we don't want to i know you don't you're not trying to we're not trying to but at least give us that i wouldn't give you that you're not trying we're not trying to we can't have but once in a while, you're not thinking

Speaker 1 two steps ahead.

Speaker 1 If I do this thing, then this thing might happen. Yeah.
That's true. I must say,

Speaker 1 in my

Speaker 1 second half century of life, post-50, I would say, around there,

Speaker 1 I feel like I did finally absorb that one.

Speaker 1 Like, there is a tomorrow.

Speaker 1 Like, would it be great to fuck this person? Yes. But then

Speaker 1 what are her expectations going to be?

Speaker 1 And even if I said to her in words,

Speaker 1 here's a sophisticated thing I learned late. Even if I said to her in words that, you know, I am who I am and this is not going to be blah, blah, blah.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 And the kind of growth that you, you know, would hope would have happened earlier. Yeah.
Well, you know,

Speaker 1 a lot of times that happens. You don't have kids, right? Not to my knowledge.

Speaker 1 But call in if you're watching.

Speaker 1 You do a lot of these bit takes. I'm going to tell you, you and I are going to be hosting a morning show at some point.
I have a feeling that I am going to be the richest

Speaker 1 in your Kathy Lee. No one's going to learn one thing, but we will tell it like it is.
I am going to. I'm telling you, that is a show.

Speaker 1 Okay, let's do it. If you think you've had a good TV husband before,

Speaker 1 I'll give you a better one.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you're talking a language.

Speaker 1 You really know how to do it. No, I'm telling you, I think that's what you should go to.
Because they're not going to give you a break in this town. They're just fucking assholes.
They are.

Speaker 1 They really are. And

Speaker 1 they're just such a bunch of fucking teenage girls who don't want you to sit at their lunch table.

Speaker 1 And I just don't think that's going to change. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Well, you know, it's been. But you could do a show.
Yeah. You know, I mean, you could, you'd be really great at that.

Speaker 1 All right. You got the wardrobe.
I love this. This is a perfect.

Speaker 1 I'm not joking. It's because you're a great person.

Speaker 1 It's a great. No, because when you, so when we started out with that, you just one guy.
Don't go by me. This is a great, if I was the producer, I'd be like,

Speaker 1 this is a great.

Speaker 1 uh first show outfit okay this is exactly what we want to be selling to the people because you want somebody you're like i feel like women's TV has been like either an overweight lesbian you know somebody who's not threatening to us at all or Tyra Banks I feel like we need something in the middle

Speaker 1 that's not like a hot be a supermodel but yeah you know like somebody who's

Speaker 1 well she's like like she is the aspiration for us at that age to be if we could be as hot as her at that age we've you know we're

Speaker 1 really far because we're watching daytime TV. So, you know, we're obviously also eating funyunions.

Speaker 1 But, okay.

Speaker 1 But somebody who can talk, and, you know, you've had some pain in your life. They love that.

Speaker 1 You know, you've had pain. They love that.

Speaker 1 And they, you know,

Speaker 1 you're still here. And you're still here.

Speaker 1 Exactly. Like, you've done, you've been through some.

Speaker 1 And that's when you go into what I did for love.

Speaker 1 What I did for love.

Speaker 1 That's it. Yeah.

Speaker 1 That's it.

Speaker 1 What is that? It's a great show.

Speaker 1 What's it all about, Alfie? No?

Speaker 1 Wait, was that a music? No, no, no, no. Much later than

Speaker 1 Alfie. No.

Speaker 1 Was that a Broadway show? No. Was that a musical show? No.
Yes.

Speaker 1 Was it all about?

Speaker 1 No. I think it's a no, it's a movie.
They remade it badly.

Speaker 1 But the original one was Michael Caine. Alfie.

Speaker 1 He's a CAD. He is.
Yes.

Speaker 1 He's a bounder. I didn't know that.
Yeah, that's who Alfie is. Oh, Oh, Alfie.
I thought you meant Michael King.

Speaker 1 He has sexual intercourse and relations with women with no intention of making an honorable missus out of them. Scoundrel.
He's a scoundrel. Yes.
And, you know,

Speaker 1 but he falls in love.

Speaker 1 What's it all about, Alfie?

Speaker 1 I don't know.

Speaker 1 I don't know what happened.

Speaker 1 It's questioning that sort of scoundrel life and saying, you know, like, get in love with it. It's worth it.
Oh, the thing that I was going to say.

Speaker 1 What I was talking about you,

Speaker 1 you know, realizing, oh,

Speaker 1 tomorrow, there is a tomorrow. There might be consequences.
I do. I should think about that for a moment before I do this one thing.

Speaker 1 I think a lot of people learn that lesson when they have kids.

Speaker 1 Because before you have kids, you don't care what you're, you don't care what you're doing. But Bobby's got plenty of kids.
Bobby's got a lot of kids.

Speaker 1 What's his excuse?

Speaker 1 What's his excuse?

Speaker 1 Let's call him. You can't blame that on on that kid.
He's on the phone right now, Bobby. Let's go to line two, Bobby.
You can't blame that one on kids. No, no.

Speaker 1 But I know what you mean, kids. Right, because then you think

Speaker 1 because you're thinking about somebody else. Of course.
It's like the first time in your life you start thinking about somebody else before you think about yourself.

Speaker 1 So even what you're talking about, that's what you're doing now. You were

Speaker 1 in your second century, no, second half century. Half

Speaker 1 you are thinking about somebody else. Bill, this is very sweet.

Speaker 1 No, I

Speaker 1 actually

Speaker 1 was thinking about me

Speaker 1 having most. I mean, yes, I sometimes I'm thinking about another person.
That's true. I'm being facetious.
But I'm also thinking about self-preservation.

Speaker 1 The last thing in the world I want is a woman who is mad at me. Really?

Speaker 1 It seems like

Speaker 1 you would

Speaker 1 be able to take that pretty well.

Speaker 1 No? I have

Speaker 1 many times, and it's still not enjoyable. You don't still not enjoyable.
No. Well, that's sweet.
I said something.

Speaker 1 You know the old Shakespearean phrase, hell hath no fury, like a woman scorned. So it's not so much about the feelings, it's about the wrath of the woman.
That is a big part of it.

Speaker 1 I'm not going to lie. Why?

Speaker 1 You're not like... Well, it's both.
It's both. It's one of those nice things that is both.
You're doing the right thing, but you're also doing the right thing for you. Because, and it's so easy.

Speaker 1 Like, how do you get women not to hate you or be mad at you? Don't lie to them ever. Yeah.
About anything.

Speaker 1 Don't take them down a primrose path and then like ghost or just not be that guy who they thought you were. Don't pretend,

Speaker 1 you know, you, oh, you know, maybe I would want to get married someday. No, just be honest from the beginning.
Yeah. And I I mean, I like that you never got married.
I like it too. I mean, I think

Speaker 1 you like it.

Speaker 1 Let me tell you, sister. You were like,

Speaker 1 I can tell you a few things. I can write a book.

Speaker 1 And you did.

Speaker 1 You know what? I love it the way we, I'm telling you, we are destined for a morning talk show. Unscripted by Cheryl Hines.
It's so good. I read it while this interview was going on.

Speaker 1 That's what a badass I am. I can read and do an interview with the speed radar.
Oh, it's got pictures. It does have pictures.
Oh, now I'm fucking sold. It has pictures.
Wow.

Speaker 1 Look at these pictures.

Speaker 1 You're always with good-looking men. I know.
Those were my gay husbands. Your gay husband.
Stop it.

Speaker 1 Really? Paul and Eddie. Yeah.
No, there's Richard Gere. I know.
I talk about Richard Gere for a moment in the book. So you fucked all these guys?

Speaker 1 No, they were all. I rate them.

Speaker 1 As you're flipping through,

Speaker 1 it starts with.

Speaker 1 Hey, what's this Jodi Foster at the end?

Speaker 1 You know, she ranked. She was up there.

Speaker 1 One of the, I feel like I've known you for a long time, although we haven't really done anything. We've been in the same circle.
Yeah, we've been in the same circle. And we were at a,

Speaker 1 maybe a vanity fair party after the Oscars. Sure.

Speaker 1 And we were both at the bar at the same time.

Speaker 1 I don't know why, Bill. I don't know why I asked you.

Speaker 1 Because this was the rumor rumor for so long

Speaker 1 was that you would masturbate into a sock before

Speaker 1 a sock. I love the way things get embellished.

Speaker 1 They did print an article in, do you remember there was a magazine called

Speaker 1 I'll never forget that magazine called

Speaker 1 Entertainment Weekly.

Speaker 1 I think it's still happening, no?

Speaker 1 Happening is definitely not the word to describe whatever's going on with Entertainment Weekly, happening is not it. Okay.

Speaker 1 You think that still exists in some form?

Speaker 1 Well, it existed when there was newsstands. Right, right.
And you would walk by the newsstand.

Speaker 1 I haven't seen anyone refer to it or seen it itself in, I don't know. I mean, and I also don't know

Speaker 1 if that's true. Anyway.
But it's still existing. They printed,

Speaker 1 it was a, you know, when magazines were, you know,

Speaker 1 people would pick them up at the airport.

Speaker 1 Yeah, exactly. It was like People magazine just for the, I don't know how it was different.
Anyway, I guess it had box office results. Anyway,

Speaker 1 they said that I masturbated before the show in the dressing room. Why did they say that? Because I did.

Speaker 1 How would they know this? Not often.

Speaker 1 Not often, but you had to. You know what? Here's the thing.
Tell me. This is the 90s.
Okay.

Speaker 1 I mean, we taped every day. Yes.
Or three days a week or something like that. You know, it was an everyday show, politically incorrect.
The sign right behind you. Yes.

Speaker 1 And I mean, I was just like a wild person then. I mean, and I would be out at night.

Speaker 1 You know, I would be, I would be, I would, you know, and be sometimes

Speaker 1 and become. Because you might be talking to

Speaker 1 an entertainment weekly. Well, no, no.

Speaker 1 I think what it was was

Speaker 1 I'd be come in and hungover.

Speaker 1 Not hungover.

Speaker 1 But just like, did I get enough sleep? No, because I was out late

Speaker 1 drinking and clubbing and whatever.

Speaker 1 And then,

Speaker 1 you know,

Speaker 1 this wasn't a lot, but yeah, sometimes I was. And so, like, I could always get a nap if I jerked off first.
Okay. And I think one time I forgot to remove the jergens from the

Speaker 1 dressing room?

Speaker 1 No. Yes, from the toilet area.

Speaker 1 And then somebody. Okay, so you did it in the bathroom.
That's reasonable.

Speaker 1 That's what I said to Bill Clinton after the Monica Lewinsky scandal. You did it reasonably.

Speaker 1 Yeah. So

Speaker 1 what? You got me. So somebody.

Speaker 1 So I think

Speaker 1 somebody dropped a dime.

Speaker 1 And said, I think that's a good idea. Well, I mean,

Speaker 1 it is damning evidence. Why else would you have jergens in the toilet area?

Speaker 1 I mean, moisturized hands.

Speaker 1 If you're a lady, you know.

Speaker 1 Cheryl, I can't sell that. I just can't sell that.

Speaker 1 It's just better to admit it. Where does the sock come in? You don't have to do that.

Speaker 1 They just made that up because that's what they do. Writer's embellishment.
Right. It was a sock.

Speaker 1 Right. And I was thinking about Putin.
You know, whatever they want to say. Of course, they're going to...
But

Speaker 1 I'm telling you the truth and owning it. You know what? At that night,

Speaker 1 I said,

Speaker 1 I asked you about that and you said, yeah,

Speaker 1 I do that sometimes or whatever.

Speaker 1 see, I'm consistent, yeah, it was very refreshing.

Speaker 1 And then I asked you,

Speaker 1 I shouldn't say this either,

Speaker 1 but I had this like this dress on, and my hair was sort of buffant and like not, I wasn't really, wasn't the buffant hair I was hoping for that,

Speaker 1 like Priscilla Presley,

Speaker 1 kind of, yeah. Wow.
Well, no, that sounds exciting. No, it was more like a, like a, you know, more of a political

Speaker 1 thing.

Speaker 1 Not the Cameron Diaz jizz in the hair thing.

Speaker 1 No, this is more like, who could I, uh, oh, uh,

Speaker 1 like maybe Sarah Palin?

Speaker 1 Like, like, really dunno. Oh, okay, sure.
And. Beehive.
It's sort of beehivey. And I said, and I said to you, we were waiting for our drinks after I asked you about the sock.

Speaker 1 Why would I ask you about the sock? Icebreaker.

Speaker 1 Icebreaker. And I said,

Speaker 1 Hey, I hear you're so horny.

Speaker 1 You can't wait for nighttime and you do it in a sock in your dressing room. And I said, Here's my card.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so nice to meet you. I know.
Why would I ask you that? I don't know. But I think I must have met you before that moment.
But I don't know where. But anyway, I said,

Speaker 1 I said, do I look like a senator's wife with this

Speaker 1 hair? Little did you know.

Speaker 1 Who knew. Wow, what foreshadowing.
I know. And you said,

Speaker 1 if you're asking me if you're, I'll say breasts, not what you said. If you're asking me if you're breasts look great, they do.

Speaker 1 You look great. And I was like, oh,

Speaker 1 thank you. I was asking about my hair, but

Speaker 1 I'll lean into that.

Speaker 1 I can't believe at this point we have to make this statement clear, but I'm always an honest person. If your tits look great, I'm going to say your tits look great.

Speaker 1 If the left is driving me crazy, I'm going to call them out. If Trump is doing crazy shit, I'm going to call him out.
But, you know, tits are no exception. Yeah.

Speaker 1 If your tits look great, and they do, I am not going to hide it from the public. That is my choice.
Thank you. That is my declaration.
That is my pledge.

Speaker 1 That is why I am a one-issue candidate running for the mayoral of New York City. Titsville.

Speaker 1 I'm going to come in at the last minute and unseat Mandami on an issue of if your tits look great, let's say it. Let's just say it.
Let's just fucking say it. And by the way, I was like, okay.

Speaker 1 That will be the name of our talk show. Your tits look great.

Speaker 1 Now you get out there and face the world. So I hear you had a crazy weekend with your new husband.
Looks great.

Speaker 1 David Ellison.

Speaker 1 Bill, I do think we could cover a lot of ground and territory. But do you want to get up early in the morning?

Speaker 1 Of course not. We'd have to shoot at the night.
We'd have to shoot it the night before. We We can do it at like three in the morning.
People know what's going on in the world.

Speaker 1 They care. You could do a show that's a year late and it would

Speaker 1 hold up. Exactly.
Really? No, actually, that would be a great twist on the morning show. It's like we do it the night before.
Yeah. Here's what we think is going to happen tomorrow.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and it's not going to be that different. It's not right most of the time.
It's not going to be that different. No.

Speaker 1 How often does,

Speaker 1 you know,

Speaker 1 an amazing event

Speaker 1 happen from from 3 to 10. 8.12 in the morning.
Never. Oh, wait, 9-11.

Speaker 1 Oh.

Speaker 1 Wow, you really brought it down.

Speaker 1 What time did that happen at? 8-12.

Speaker 1 I mean, how do you know that? I just remember it. Do you remember numbers like that? I do.
I remember birthdays.

Speaker 1 That's interesting,

Speaker 1 now people can, like, easily remember birthdays because, like, it's in your phone or some shit

Speaker 1 for all those years. I did it for everybody.
For some reason, I'm not good at math. I'm not a science person.
Really? No, but numbers stick in my head. Like I will remember.
Oh.

Speaker 1 That was funny. That was God.

Speaker 1 Exactly.

Speaker 1 But I remember like

Speaker 1 dates. Like you can say, oh, remember that thing? And if

Speaker 1 a lot of times I will not remember at all. But if I do, I could say, oh, yeah, that was April 7th.
But because you

Speaker 1 do you visualize the numbers? No, I'm not crazy like that. I just somehow remembered it.
I'm a history person. That's why maybe I'm a history major and I love history and I love the money.

Speaker 1 So you know all the dates of the battles and the wars? I know everything.

Speaker 1 Everything about history. Ask me anything about history and I will know.
By the way, I always thought that was the bullshit.

Speaker 1 History. is bullshit.
It's the ultimate non-bullshit. If you don't know history, you don't know how to guide the present.

Speaker 1 History was,

Speaker 1 in my classes, only memorizing what dates the wars started. Well, they taught it to you badly.
History should be about the significance of what happened before we were here.

Speaker 1 One of my biggest problems with the younger generation is when you mention something that happened before they were alive, they're such little fucking narcissists that they don't think they should know because I wasn't alive for that.

Speaker 1 I remember once Megan McCain was on the show and she said something like that, and Paul Bogala almost brought her to tears when he said, you know, I wasn't alive for the French Revolution, but I know about it.

Speaker 1 By the way, I really like Megan McCain. Should you put your

Speaker 1 shoe on? I'm not sure.

Speaker 1 You were just saying in that moment. I mean, I don't know if this is bad for your shot.
Oh. Can you reach it?

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Let's fucking doing it. It is weird that it just popped off.

Speaker 1 I'm a Marine.

Speaker 1 Were you a Marines now?

Speaker 1 I was like,

Speaker 1 I would be worried for the the company. I'm only a Marine compared to Gen Z.

Speaker 1 Compared to them, I am a Marine. And I'm not even a Marine.

Speaker 1 Have you, did you ever think about joining the military? No, I was very lucky. I

Speaker 1 came of draft age the year before they stopped the draft.

Speaker 1 The year before? Yeah, 1973, I was 17,

Speaker 1 and kids were still going to Vietnam, although we were wrapping the war up. But not at 17.

Speaker 1 But I would have had had to have registered the next year for the draft.

Speaker 1 Normally, you had to register for the draft at 18. They stopped it the very year I turned 18.
So I came very lucky. I came of age right when you didn't have to do it.

Speaker 1 Were you panicked about it or stressed?

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 1 You were just thought this is what it is? No, because by 73, we were only withdrawing troops. We were not sending new troops.
We had signed the treaty. Nixon

Speaker 1 was the best salesman before Trump, who ran in 1968 on the pledge of I will end the war in Vietnam and did not, and then ran again in 1972 on the same pledge, but then did,

Speaker 1 or it just came to an end. No, he pulled out.
And then, of course, the Vietnamese took over, the North Vietnamese took over, so the whole thing was pointless. But

Speaker 1 I was not worried about it at that age because we were drawing. So it was winding down.
So it was just the perfect age. You want to become military fodder right after a war.

Speaker 1 Because it's going to take a while for a generation.

Speaker 1 Generations usually take a pause before they go back. Again, one good thing about Trump, he really, really does not like war.
Which I love that about him. I kind of do because I don't want war either.

Speaker 1 And most of them are unnecessary. I agree.
I mean,

Speaker 1 He took a long time when I had that dinner with him talking about the pictures he sees coming from Ukraine, the stuff that doesn't get out on the news. It's like raw footage of bodies in the field.

Speaker 1 Yes. And you could tell it really moved him.

Speaker 1 He's like, I do not want to see this, and

Speaker 1 I'm the kind of guy who can fix this. At least, you know,

Speaker 1 he's never not going to be Trump. So, of course, he's like, I solved nine wars.

Speaker 1 You know, okay, even if it's half that, it's still good that we're solving them and not starting them.

Speaker 1 That's the thing that I find

Speaker 1 that I really like about

Speaker 1 President Trump when he talks about wars and talks about Ukraine.

Speaker 1 And he talks about

Speaker 1 Ukraine and Russia,

Speaker 1 and he will say

Speaker 1 they're losing

Speaker 1 people on both sides. And it's not just

Speaker 1 Ukraine is losing people. It's not just Russia is losing people.
He sees like both sides, this is a lot, a true loss for both sides. And you can feel it from him

Speaker 1 when he talks about that loss.

Speaker 1 I mean, I do. The problem with that one is that he's up against truly the devil.
You know, Putin is as close to Satan as you can get. I mean, he's just, he's a cold,

Speaker 1 dead-eyed shark in the water. And he just, he...
plays Trump. He's like, oh, sure,

Speaker 1 let's have a peace meeting. You know, Alaska, sure, great.
What a great place to meet and have lunch.

Speaker 1 And he left before the lunch. Did you know that? No.
And Trump. But I doubted that he would, he's flying to Alaska to have lunch.
Like, I can't wait to get there to see what they're serving for lunch.

Speaker 1 That was probably like last on his

Speaker 1 list of things to do there. Yeah, but I mean, he was supposed to stay for the lunch.

Speaker 1 That just tells you something about Putin and how he thinks of the United States and how we can deal with them, which is like, you know, I'm going to do what I'm going to do.

Speaker 1 I'm going to take a piece, if not all, of Ukraine, and I'm going to string you along, and I'm going to go to your summit meetings and we'll pretend to talk. And then I won't even stay for the lunch.

Speaker 1 Trump stayed for the lunch. He said to the waiter, How's the blubber? And the waiter said, We serve everybody.
Belmont.

Speaker 1 No, but by the way,

Speaker 1 if I can just see like journalists out there going, Belmar Maher said,

Speaker 1 I'll stay for the blubber.

Speaker 1 Of course. Like,

Speaker 1 when you're talking to people, are you thinking about it? They're just the worst. They only, because they don't, I just did a whole piece on this

Speaker 1 because the Fox News and the New York Post printed half of an editorial I did.

Speaker 1 They went all over town on how great I was to take on the left and completely left off the part where I was taking on the right. And that's what they always do.
That's every week. So

Speaker 1 if I started to work.

Speaker 1 It goes both ways. I said,

Speaker 1 because by the way,

Speaker 1 I was with my niece, Kayleigh, and we were looking at headlines and whatever. And

Speaker 1 some people are still talking about the view. And it's interesting the coverage of that appearance on the view because

Speaker 1 a big part of

Speaker 1 people's criticism of Bobby is that he's not a medical doctor. And on the view, I said 90% of secretaries of HHS have not been medical doctors.

Speaker 1 So you can see when somebody prints an article, if they don't print my response, but just print, you know, whoever said your husband's not qualified, he's not even a doctor.

Speaker 1 You see, oh, okay, they're only printing that side. They're not printing the response that it's just like what you're talking about.

Speaker 1 I mean, I did a lot of editorials during the pandemic that the woke did not like, that were more on Bobby's page.

Speaker 1 Okay, I just did another spit tape.

Speaker 1 I was not on,

Speaker 1 I mean, I am not an anti-vaxxer. He sat here and we talked for a very long time about

Speaker 1 very many topics. He cried.
He cried when he was here, yes. Why? Talking about his father.

Speaker 1 I mean, I didn't purposely, as you can see, I have no agenda or a thought put my head beyond that. No, you don't plan.
Don't you just

Speaker 1 You're you've not planned anything. It's obvious.
No,

Speaker 1 when I did this, I said, I have a show where I do, where I plan. This is no play.
No, this is. So, I mean, I don't know how we got under that, but I mean, he was very real, and it was very.

Speaker 1 But, you know,

Speaker 1 I did say to him, you know,

Speaker 1 something anti-vaxxer, and he said, you think that's what I am? And I'm like, well,

Speaker 1 I could show you

Speaker 1 things you've said that would certainly make a person to think that.

Speaker 1 But I also

Speaker 1 was

Speaker 1 on the page during the pandemic that we were overreacting to something that could have better been...

Speaker 1 Certainly, we should not have been an outlier country as far as not acknowledging natural immunity, which we were. That's crazy.

Speaker 1 And that does, to me, look like people who are saying, look, no matter what, we will get the vaccine in you. Yeah.
Whether you get it. No matter what.

Speaker 1 We don't care if you've already had COVID and you have natural immunity. You are getting this vaccine

Speaker 1 for the sake of everybody. That was the.

Speaker 1 But just scientifically, it's wrong.

Speaker 1 I mean, there's nothing more sort of bargain-basement medicine than natural immunity is the best. Well, that's why Bobby and I have, that's where we

Speaker 1 sometimes go.

Speaker 1 You don't think natural immunity is? No, I do. Oh.
But I'm always saying to him, you have to think about people's feelings when you're talking about this. And,

Speaker 1 you know, if somebody has,

Speaker 1 let's say for this, not that this natural immunity came up, but

Speaker 1 if somebody already has natural immunity, but somebody, the government is telling them you still have to get the vaccine, their feeling is, I still need to get the vaccine.

Speaker 1 I said, so let's look at the feeling of that person. And he's like, this is the science.
They don't need it. They already have immunity.

Speaker 1 I know, but they have

Speaker 1 feelings about it. It's like, it doesn't matter.
Well, this is what I said about

Speaker 1 politicians talk to their wives. Yeah.
The good ones. Because they, you know, I've never quite been on the page of, you know, men are from Mars, women are from Venus.

Speaker 1 But sometimes they are. Yeah, there's a difference.
We are. You know why? And you kind of have to hear it.
Because, well,

Speaker 1 women by nature

Speaker 1 women by nature are nurturers. Yes, yes.
And we,

Speaker 1 you know what?

Speaker 1 We bear the children. We feel the responsibility.
Not that men don't,

Speaker 1 but we are connected to the universe in a way that

Speaker 1 men might not be.

Speaker 1 We feel the weight of that.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 we feel the

Speaker 1 um

Speaker 1 we feel the intensity of of other people's feelings and i'm generalizing people are already going to town

Speaker 1 um

Speaker 1 but generally because we have we're think about the children we're thinking about our our family we're how is this going to affect the whole family how is this going to affect you know so and

Speaker 1 I'm generalizing, not some, but not all. Okay, but I don't know what you can do when I say that.
But I don't need need to keep off.

Speaker 1 I just want to say, mature people

Speaker 1 understand that no comment about anything important is done without some generalization.

Speaker 1 That's what mature people do.

Speaker 1 Immature people

Speaker 1 find the one outlier and try to make that a thing. How dare you? I'm a single dad, and I have.
Mature people do, or serious academics do.

Speaker 1 They have to go by majorities and statistics. Yes, majorities and statistics.

Speaker 1 I just wanted to get that shot in at those assholes. I fucking know.
But I know. It just sucks.
Because those are the people that are like,

Speaker 1 you don't know my situation.

Speaker 1 Bad faith. You know what bad faith means? It means you don't really believe it yourself, but you can get idiots to believe it.
That's bad faith. People say it loud enough.

Speaker 1 But people say it loud enough. Or enough times, then people will believe it.
But smash some shit tonight.

Speaker 1 But, yes, men and women's different opinions because, you know. I started with a comic named Mark Sunder.
He had a great joke. He said,

Speaker 1 yeah, every Sunday night I can go to bed with my girlfriend and we make love and then watch my favorite show, 59 Minutes.

Speaker 1 No, okay, I get it. I get it.
Yeah, that's it.

Speaker 1 Yes, it's important that you watch things together that you like or that you like.

Speaker 1 That you vibe on that time of togetherness. It's true.
Because it's very often before you go to sleep. Yeah.
And you want to unwind.

Speaker 1 And you just want to be on the same page.

Speaker 1 It's not a time for fighting. Like, oh, can we watch this? It's like, I don't want to negotiate.
No, I know. I keep trying to get Bobby to watch murder.
And he doesn't want to.

Speaker 1 He's like, why do I want to watch murder? I said, I don't know. It's relaxing.

Speaker 1 Yeah, now that is a female thing. It is.

Speaker 1 Why are we, you tell me. Okay, I'll tell you.
Why are women so fucking interested in murdering?

Speaker 1 I'll tell you why, Bill.

Speaker 1 Because

Speaker 1 I think

Speaker 1 when it's presented to us,

Speaker 1 you know, in an hour form or even a mini-series, people call it that, no, limited series.

Speaker 1 It's like, here's what's,

Speaker 1 here's what happened. That's usually a guy, let's be honest.
Am I usually a female murderer? No. Usually a guy.
Oh, because in life it is. It's a guy.
Yes.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 it's a super weird guy. Men are murderers.
Who murder. Let's just say it.
Who men are.

Speaker 1 Not all men are murderers, but if you are a murderer.

Speaker 1 You're probably a man.

Speaker 1 A hundred percent. And women are nurturers.

Speaker 1 So I'm not saying who's better, but it doesn't matter.

Speaker 1 But so.

Speaker 1 So, okay, so

Speaker 1 somebody's serving up murder in an hour form, right? Or two hours. Like, it's, but it's a, it's a,

Speaker 1 what are they, what's one of them? Not nightline, prime time? No. Primetime? No.
2020 or something like that. And they're like, here's.
Dayline. Dayline.
Thank you. You're like, here's what happened.

Speaker 1 Yeah. There was a murder on Elm Street.

Speaker 1 Like you've never seen murder. Who was it? You don't know.
Could have been a husband. We don't know.
And you're watching going, it was

Speaker 1 always the husband.

Speaker 1 And then you watch it, and the husband thinks he's getting away with it, and he doesn't. And it is always the husband? Almost always.

Speaker 1 It's almost always.

Speaker 1 Almost always. Well, that's how the police view it.
Right, of course. The police view it that way.
Not just people in show business. The police are going to say.

Speaker 1 First thing,

Speaker 1 check out the husband. Yeah, or the ex-husband.
They're on a cruise. Or the lover.
Somehow she fell overboard.

Speaker 1 They're speaking my language. This is a Friday night for me, and I'm just like, ah, she fell overboard.
She didn't fall overboard.

Speaker 1 Well, we know that, that, like, on cruise ships, a lot of the accidents.

Speaker 1 I think now with cameras, it's less likely, but like for there was a there was a

Speaker 1 for murderers, there was a golden window of time

Speaker 1 when you could like get away with a definitely take your girl on a cruise and be like tell her honey I love you so much I want to take you on a cruise yes and then you go look at the moon

Speaker 1 can you believe this view

Speaker 1 kill her

Speaker 1 I'm king of the world yeah

Speaker 1 you're queen of the bottom of the sea bitch

Speaker 1 and then

Speaker 1 2020

Speaker 1 not what did you say it was called primetime no lent nightline no nightline Nightline. Yeah.
Nightline.

Speaker 1 Dateline. Dateline.
Dateline. And then dateline.
And then it's like women got wise.

Speaker 1 Like, why are you taking me on this cruise? And why do you want me to look at the moon at the end of the boat? And why are you sitting behind me? I would like to see you,

Speaker 1 you know, so it's like. Well, if you're already at the point where you're not suspicious.

Speaker 1 If you don't want your man to stand behind you while you're looking at the moon, you've got bigger problems. Not a good relationship.

Speaker 1 But that's like, that's why women like like these shows because it's like

Speaker 1 he did it.

Speaker 1 We found out he did it. And

Speaker 1 you guys are not getting away with it anymore.

Speaker 1 And you go to bed feeling like, great. And Bobby's like,

Speaker 1 how do you feel good about the murder?

Speaker 1 You don't get it.

Speaker 1 You're a guy. Will you make him watch that? No, he won't watch it.

Speaker 1 I secretly,

Speaker 1 I don't keep it a secret from him, but if he's doing something else,

Speaker 1 then I will. That's for you.
That's fair.

Speaker 1 That's my joy. Murder is your private joy.
Murder, let me have murder.

Speaker 1 You should have murder. Yeah, I don't need you sitting next to me being angry about murder when I'm just relaxing to it.
Yeah, it's like asking him to share the vibrator.

Speaker 1 I mean, like, that's your thing. Oh,

Speaker 1 my God. It's your thing.

Speaker 1 Why would. Oh, my God.
I really did it this time.

Speaker 1 I really.

Speaker 1 you sound like Lucy.

Speaker 1 Oh, I really did it this time.

Speaker 1 Lucy, you really did it this time. I mean, I really did.
To the moon, Lucy.

Speaker 1 That really got me. Don't you love 50s TV where you could threaten to punch your wife in the face and it was considered acceptable? I was cute.

Speaker 1 Alice, if you annoy me one more minute, I'm gonna punch you. To the moon.

Speaker 1 I feel like.

Speaker 1 Is my mascara running enough? Yeah, you look fantastic. Would you know if I didn't?

Speaker 1 What do you mean? If my mascara was running in your state of mind, do you feel like you'd be like, well, it is, but it still looks okay?

Speaker 1 Or would you feel like, no, it is, Ian?

Speaker 1 Honestly, and I'm not saying this to blow smoke up your leather, but you are one of the few people I've ever met who like looks better in person than you do on the screen.

Speaker 1 Not that you don't look good on the screen, but like you look different in person.

Speaker 1 And it's not worse. It's very rare.

Speaker 1 Usually

Speaker 1 they use the artifices to like, you know, enhance it. Make it look b better.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Well, that's interesting. You look thinner.

Speaker 1 Interesting. Well, they say the camera does add ten pounds.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Well, that

Speaker 1 yeah.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 sometimes people may even think I look taller in person. 'Cause you don't know how tall somebody is when it's just like head and shoulders.
Hello to Tom Cruise.

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 1 I mean, but he's kind of diminutive, right? I don't know. I've never met him in real life.

Speaker 1 And by the way, it doesn't even matter because he's diminutive. No, but he is.
I think he is

Speaker 1 short. I mean, I'm 5'8.
I think he's shorter than me.

Speaker 1 Have you ever met him, though? Yeah, once at a party. I told him how much I loved

Speaker 1 Night and Day.

Speaker 1 Oh, I remember Night and Day with Cameron Diaz. So great.

Speaker 1 It's just such a great kind of overlooked movie by the.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, like, the snobs didn't like it for some reason, but it's just like a great sort of romantic caper kind of movie. Yeah, I remember.

Speaker 1 It's just two old pros who know how to do their job in movies and doing it well and a great sort of fun,

Speaker 1 you know, it's just escapism. Yeah.
But on an elegant level. Yeah.
You can do it elegantly. Yeah.

Speaker 1 You know, and

Speaker 1 he's always pretty elegant. I love Tom Cruise as a movie star.
Yeah, because he... Oh, he's amazing.

Speaker 1 He takes the responsibility. Very much so.
Yeah, seriously. Yes, for the whole planet also.
You don't think that about Christian, like a Christian actor, you don't feel like...

Speaker 1 Whoa, huh? Like,

Speaker 1 well.

Speaker 1 I would like to see,

Speaker 1 I would like to rewire their brain to get that one thing different. Oh, I see what you're saying.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 But you feel that about.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's a very good point. I mean, it's just, because it is just as nutty.
You're right. It is just as nutty to think that Jesus was...
I mean,

Speaker 1 if he even was a historical figure, which is not certain but possible,

Speaker 1 it's like a 50-50. Okay, say he was a historical figure.
There was a guy, Jesus. Yeah, to think that he reanimated after he was dead, that is as crazy as Zeno.
You're right. You're totally right.

Speaker 1 And what? We're just used to it. Yeah, we're just used to it.
We're just used to it, and it's more mainstream. Right.
So who cares what we're doing? No, I'm not for actually

Speaker 1 doing lobbying

Speaker 1 on people, but

Speaker 1 you know, I mean,

Speaker 1 it's just such an it's such a different idea that it's hard to

Speaker 1 me is a little worse because it came much later. Christianity, you could make the excuse, like Judaism and Islam.
Yeah, and

Speaker 1 you see the artwork that goes back to the... Well, it came at the pre-scientific era.

Speaker 1 The scientific era only started about 400 years ago when people believed in science, when they stopped thinking the sun revolved around the other planets. What if that is the truth?

Speaker 1 What if the science

Speaker 1 is the truth? Now, this is Bobby talking.

Speaker 1 I mean,

Speaker 1 we definitely should always be debating what the science is. That's one thing.

Speaker 1 Are we talking about religion now or are we talking about something else? We're talking about both. Okay.
Because they both apply. But you're saying we should always be debating.

Speaker 1 That's what science means, debating. That's where I'm with him.
Okay.

Speaker 1 But it's always changing, too. It's always changing.
Well, who's to say that this has been settled? Exactly. No, that's where I've always had his back.
And

Speaker 1 I've taken the shit from doing my editorials about it, especially during COVID.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 even before COVID, they hated me as an, they called me an anti-vaxxer. And I was like, I'm not an anti-vaxxer.
That's not what I am.

Speaker 1 I'm just a pro

Speaker 1 skepticism about anything medical. Yeah.
Any medical intervention. Why can't we ask questions? I'm very specific.

Speaker 1 Yeah, especially since you've got, my thing was always like, don't look at me because you're wearing a white coat with your name on. printed on it in stitching.

Speaker 1 Like, I have, I'm God, and I have the answers. When have we ever been wrong? Because my answer is a lot.
A lot. You've been wrong a lot.
So, am I going to listen to Bobby Kennedy? Absolutely.

Speaker 1 Does that obligate me to believe everything he says? No. But I don't believe everything you say either.
Yeah. Let's see.
Let's see.

Speaker 1 Because I have a lot of evidence in the past, more than about him, about how you were wrong. Yeah.
I mean, big tobacco. Oh, we've got big pharma.
Big pharma.

Speaker 1 I mean, they paid $8 billion to the Sackler the Sackler family did who were you know obviously you can buy a lie

Speaker 1 in big pharma and kill a lot of people and get away with it by paying a fine yeah but don't come to me with the when have we ever been wrong right and and a lot of it most of it is not because of corruption that is uh corruption is part of it most of it is just because they just don't fucking know well i was just talking about this the other day about

Speaker 1 pregnant women getting x-rayed back in the 50s

Speaker 1 because that was

Speaker 1 leading technology and they could see where the baby was and

Speaker 1 wealthy mothers were doing it because it was the best health care you could have. And then,

Speaker 1 you know, there were studies done. It's like, oh, there's a link to wealthy women and children's cancer.
But my mother drank during her pregnancy because of course she did.

Speaker 1 She helped me get me through this. Right.
What is LM's? And did it affect me? No. Not a bit.
Look at you. No.

Speaker 1 But that had nothing to do with it. But yeah, I mean, you know, look.

Speaker 1 But yeah, and then so,

Speaker 1 you know, then there was a connection made.

Speaker 1 Radiation from x-rays is causing

Speaker 1 childhood cancer. Right.
And then when they came out with that, which makes sense.

Speaker 1 Makes sense, but people were

Speaker 1 outraged at the finding. And they said that can't be true because we're doing the best we can for our patients.
The mothers were doing the best they could for their babies.

Speaker 1 And it took 20 years until the U.S. and Europe stopped doing it.

Speaker 1 Because they just couldn't get their

Speaker 1 they couldn't imagine that they're just they're doing something

Speaker 1 I just wish Bobby could stop saying the things I can't defend so that I could more vociferously defend the things I want to you know what I mean yeah do you have something in mind or is this no but you know in general

Speaker 1 you know what I mean well

Speaker 1 because some things I can't

Speaker 1 and

Speaker 1 he goes too far for me and

Speaker 1 and it's a sh you know like in the in the big picture yes

Speaker 1 do I think we needed a big shake-up and should we re-look at it and a lot of the precepts that he is signed on to have been parts of my whole life because you know I got with a holistic doctor 20 something years ago and it just changes your way of viewing it and what you think is you know I mean I've I do not want to have

Speaker 1 certain products that have been homogenized or pasteurized, for example, because I want live bacteria.

Speaker 1 I don't want to kill the bacteria, the good bacteria with the bad bacteria.

Speaker 1 I agree that it would make it completely safe because you've killed all the bacteria, but then you're denying the healthful factor part of it.

Speaker 1 And as a free citizen, I should be able to say, well, I will take that risk. I want that bacteria.
Because I want that bacteria. And you don't know

Speaker 1 my personal health background and what I may have gone through because I don't ever publicize that shit. Lots of other people do.
And I don't think that's a bad thing. I'm not judging them.

Speaker 1 Like their health situations are.

Speaker 1 Absolutely. Wait, come here.

Speaker 1 I feel like you have a little.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we'll get rid of it.

Speaker 1 I don't know what. Oh, I know what it is.
Probably ash. Wait, don't go anywhere.
Yeah. Mine made it worse.
Here, can I do this? I wouldn't say, yeah. Sorry.
Mom.

Speaker 1 I'm being a total mom. Okay, yeah, I think I get it.

Speaker 1 I went to a pot dealer, and it's like his wife did not want him to be doing it. He's like, I can't, you know, be cool because my wife's, you know, she thinks I'm still doing the whole pot thing.

Speaker 1 And she came in and she was yelling at him for potty. She said, Honey, I don't smoke pot anymore.
She said, Peter, there's a leaf in your teeth.

Speaker 1 I can see it.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Pod edge. You had a little ash.
But, you know.

Speaker 1 No, I know. Listen.

Speaker 1 It's hard to be a,

Speaker 1 I think it's hard to be a

Speaker 1 change speaker. Totally.
Nobody wants change.

Speaker 1 Nobody wants change.

Speaker 1 It's scary and it intimidates people and it's the unknown. You know, it's hard for people to

Speaker 1 say, no,

Speaker 1 we don't want to change. We've got this thing going.
And it's like, well, what if it's not a great thing that you've got going? Like, we have to make change. And so,

Speaker 1 and, you know.

Speaker 1 But he is kind of perfect for the Trump administration because he kind of fits in with what I think of the template, which is

Speaker 1 got the right idea about a bunch of things that need reform.

Speaker 1 But the way you're doing it, I can't go on. I mean, I can go on part of the way and then you lose me.
But that's not your thing. We don't have to talk about that.
But it's okay.

Speaker 1 I mean, it's interesting here. And

Speaker 1 once again, I think it's interesting being on the inside looking out, right? Because I'm seeing it from a different perspective. Right.

Speaker 1 Because you only have so much time to make change. You're right.

Speaker 1 And so

Speaker 1 when.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah, I'm just going to say this to you because it's just the two of us in this

Speaker 1 no one's listening.

Speaker 1 But when Biden was in

Speaker 1 with president, you know, we didn't see him. I didn't see him.
I didn't, I wasn't feeling any sort of

Speaker 1 movement or movement forward. And I thought,

Speaker 1 and I thought, oh,

Speaker 1 maybe that's where we are now.

Speaker 1 Our president is just sort of a figurehead, like

Speaker 1 the Queen of England or the King of England. Like, it's just a person that's like, this is who we voted for.

Speaker 1 And so, I

Speaker 1 sort of got used to that idea of, oh, this is a person in the background. So, then, and by the way, I,

Speaker 1 until recently, I couldn't have told you one name of a secretary of HHS.

Speaker 1 Never in my life have I ever been

Speaker 1 concerned myself with

Speaker 1 the Secretary of HHS?

Speaker 1 But now I know

Speaker 1 names, I know what they've done,

Speaker 1 I know their history, I know their qualifications.

Speaker 1 But so when President Trump got into office again,

Speaker 1 you know, he's a change maker. Bobby's a change maker.
And they are like, we only have a certain amount of time to get stuff done. We're going to get it done.

Speaker 1 And whether you like it or not, a lot of people don't like it. A lot of people love it.

Speaker 1 They're making changes, which is hard to do in politics.

Speaker 1 It's hard to do in policy. Inertia is

Speaker 1 more

Speaker 1 relevant usually than either party. No, and by the way, we've all known red dye, what is it, red dye 20?

Speaker 1 The red dye in food. Oh, red dye number two.

Speaker 1 Is it number two? Yeah.

Speaker 1 That it is,

Speaker 1 it's been known to cause cancer. We've known this for a very long time.
You know what?

Speaker 1 I mean that whole thing I'm with him totally, but I got to say the idea that I would ever eat anything that had red dye number two in it is just like

Speaker 1 I don't need this this fucking law

Speaker 1 because I'm not going to eat red dye number two products anyway. But you know why?

Speaker 1 And I'm not finger pointing, but it's because you don't have kids. When you have kids,

Speaker 1 it's a responsibility that you have to do. That's one reason I don't have kids, because you can't raise kids, unfortunately, in a vacuum.
You raise them in society.

Speaker 1 And so you have to live by the mores and the ideas of the other people in society who their kids are going to.

Speaker 1 But that's why you have to.

Speaker 1 I would just be the bad parent with the scissors in my hand who's going to stab you. You are your leather pants.

Speaker 1 Because you were like... I'm a damn leather pants.
Because I can't raise my kid the way I want to

Speaker 1 because everybody else gets to fucking say in it, which was not the way I was raised. No.
Nobody else got a say. No.
No. It's just that everything, nobody ever stops in the middle with the pendulum.

Speaker 1 It always goes to like.

Speaker 1 No, it really. Right? Yes.
Isn't that the biggest fucking thing?

Speaker 1 And that's what happened in the last

Speaker 1 administration. It really

Speaker 1 swung really far. And

Speaker 1 Biden really

Speaker 1 affected my feelings about age. Because I always have been about age.

Speaker 1 Yes, because I've, for a very long time,

Speaker 1 been,

Speaker 1 I think, a voice against ageism. I think this is a very ageist country.
Yes. And my point was always,

Speaker 1 I'm not saying there's not a time to go off into the great pasture or whatever, but it's a case by case. And that is still my point.
Yes. So don't automatically make a rule like at 75.

Speaker 1 Some people at 75 are

Speaker 1 Barbara fucking Eden here.

Speaker 1 Right there. I dream of Jeannie.
She's 94. Really?

Speaker 1 She looks like you and she talks like you. There's no betrayal of age at all.

Speaker 1 Okay. And some people are old at 50.
I've known people who are old at 50. Right.
Who've given up on life. Right.
And just like turn on the TV and just like, I'm just gonna

Speaker 1 do this until I die physically also yeah I mean just like my age yeah you can look people look a lot worse than me at 70 because they stayed in the sun

Speaker 1 let me swallow before you

Speaker 1 I can't I can't

Speaker 1 take another uh oh okay you were you both make a joke

Speaker 1 finally no I thank you Jesus thank you I found one okay go ahead what were you saying no what were you saying? No, I... It was important.
No, I did not want to do a spatiq.

Speaker 1 No, we were talking about ageism. And you were saying...

Speaker 1 And we were talking about Biden, and we were talking about...

Speaker 1 Oh, because I have always been, I would say, this

Speaker 1 avenging angel against

Speaker 1 ageism, and I still am there.

Speaker 1 But the Biden...

Speaker 1 experience showed me

Speaker 1 that

Speaker 1 it's easy when you're you know in highfalutin positions of power which I am not the president but you know I am God in my universe in a show on a

Speaker 1 yeah I mean I'm yeah I could see people like trying to like keep me yeah

Speaker 1 like weekend at Bernie me you know you can still do

Speaker 1 right yeah I get a mortgage and for that reason I am acutely aware of my own prowess or lack of it so like when the time comes, I will be the person. Who will be the person to tell you that?

Speaker 1 I don't need one. I will be that person.
That's what I'm saying. No.
I do know. Because Biden.

Speaker 1 I do know.

Speaker 1 Because Biden. Well, I'm just saying Biden made it acutely aware, made me acutely aware that

Speaker 1 you can

Speaker 1 really get to this place where

Speaker 1 you're just...

Speaker 1 I always said,

Speaker 1 he can't run for president. Could he be president? Yes, he wasn't crazy or senile.
He could make decisions in small rooms of advisors, which is what a president needs to do.

Speaker 1 But at a certain point, you are also the president who needs to

Speaker 1 have a public face

Speaker 1 and show the people they have a leader. Trump, you may hate him.
You may hate every policy. He does not look tired.
No, he is out there.

Speaker 1 He is out there. I mean, he's televising his cabinet meetings.
I don't know that anybody has done that.

Speaker 1 Well,

Speaker 1 he's kicking ass and taking names.

Speaker 1 This is who I am. This is who I am.
This is who you got.

Speaker 1 And this is the shit that's been festering for a long time that I am not going to keep let festering. That's the part that's appealing to people.
Maybe that should be the name of our show.

Speaker 1 Let's not keep

Speaker 1 festering.

Speaker 1 I like just festering. I don't think we need the other part.

Speaker 1 I think if Gil's Galilee,

Speaker 1 I think the word festering is always

Speaker 1 attractive to people.

Speaker 1 Start your day with festering.

Speaker 1 Just festering.

Speaker 1 Gil and Cheryl. Hey, everybody.
It's 3 o'clock in the morning. We're taping this early.

Speaker 1 Nothing's going to happen from 3 to 6. We all know that.
I think we should start every Monday broadcast with asking about what was festering in your weekend.

Speaker 1 You know what? I would do this in one second. We could start a week.
No, no, that is what you actually should do next. You should do a talk show.
I don't know where.

Speaker 1 Like a morning show or just a... Like,

Speaker 1 I'm not even talking about

Speaker 1 podcasts. And, you know, they're great.
I'm talking about old fucking TV.

Speaker 1 I think that old fucking TV still lives on. I know it's not the newest thing, but you know what? It's still, you know, it's like...
Like murder. Well, like murder.
People love it. They tune in.

Speaker 1 Warren Buffett,

Speaker 1 the smartest investor ever, and he was always like, okay, you guys make fun of me. And then I always invest in things like railroads and toilet paper while you're chasing the latest high-tech things.

Speaker 1 And I'm like, yeah, but

Speaker 1 people still need to wipe their ass.

Speaker 1 And they need something to get it to them that'll let them wipe their ass. So I'm going to invest in that.

Speaker 1 So TV is not dead. I agree.
TV is not dead.

Speaker 1 People still want Kinect.

Speaker 1 I mean, I couldn't live without without a TV. I know I like TV.
It's a big thing at the end of my bed. Yeah.
I like it. I like it.

Speaker 1 Are you like... No, I'm

Speaker 1 Bill. I meant.
Are you hoping that I will say, oh, a big thing at the end of my bed? I don't know. I only meant it literally, and then that's why I realized what I said just about it.

Speaker 1 And you're like, now that I saw it. It's a big thing at the end of my bed.
And I want it to be big, and I want it to be at the end of my bed. I feel like

Speaker 1 appointment television,

Speaker 1 that's

Speaker 1 a laurel that few people can like put around their neck. I have a little bit of that left.
There are still people who really want to watch my show

Speaker 1 when it comes on on Friday night, like as it comes on.

Speaker 1 It was live for almost all its run.

Speaker 1 The pandemic made us

Speaker 1 not do it live because it was too dangerous.

Speaker 1 Too dangerous. I mean, it was so stupid.
To get together.

Speaker 1 There was so much material in the pandemic. I mean, there was so much stupidity and so much hypocrisy.
I mean, it was a fucking, if you couldn't hit that with a comedic arrow, it was a barn door.

Speaker 1 Right. Like the

Speaker 1 restaurant shit. Remember going to restaurants in parking lots? Like, I'm in a parking lot?

Speaker 1 And then I found out

Speaker 1 because once.

Speaker 1 Soon after the pandemic, I had to take a commercial flight. I know that sounds like I'm spoiled.
I'm sorry that happened. I know, me too, and I'm going to write a memoir about it.

Speaker 1 That's what my whole book is about. My private plane got broke, and so I had to fly on a commercial airline.

Speaker 1 And when I saw how much they pack the people together, and I thought, you mean, during this whole pandemic, when we were all like going to the restaurants in the parking lot and wearing masks when we go to the bank, during this whole thing, you were letting the planes fly because I was on one of these planes and I saw what it was like and there was no and you could take the mask off to eat because

Speaker 1 it's so ridiculous

Speaker 1 that you think you were and then people get off the plane and disperse. You could not devise a better method to make sure the virus wasn't spread around the country.

Speaker 1 And yet I'm eating in the parking lot. Yeah.
No, I know.

Speaker 1 It's also in my book. I talk about that in my book because it was like, because at that time during during the pandemic you know that's when Bobby was really questioning

Speaker 1 these types of

Speaker 1 protocols ideas yeah protocols and

Speaker 1 distancing distancing I mean all of it was proved to be a bunch of bullshit now some of it was yes at the beginning we didn't know what it was

Speaker 1 but

Speaker 1 there definitely was a point at which we could have been like pivoted pivoted right because at the beginning because at the beginning, nobody knew, and it was like, we've never seen this before, and everybody was on board, and it's like, wow, we have never seen this before.

Speaker 1 And then

Speaker 1 as time went on, you could watch some of the governors, which once again, insider looking out, learning about, you know, I really am understanding what governors do as opposed to.

Speaker 1 So you watch some of the state-of-the-art governors have the power. They really do.
So state to state, you watch them make decisions about their state. Right.
We're going to stay locked down, Newsome.

Speaker 1 We're going to stay locked down.

Speaker 1 Everybody, you know,

Speaker 1 social distance, we're going to keep the schools locked down, the businesses locked down. And then you had other governors, and I only know this.
I went to Florida

Speaker 1 as soon as I could. And so meeting.
And it felt like a different world. California, I felt like I was in Attica.
That is. Like boarded up windows.
And it's like, please. I know.

Speaker 1 Eating in the parking, the parking lot. Yeah, this is going to change a lot.
I'm in the parking lot, you fucking assholes.

Speaker 1 Well, the same. I went to Florida because my whole family lives in Florida.
And when I got there, like my sister and I went to, I don't know, Target or something like that. And I got my mask out.

Speaker 1 And she said, what are you doing? I said, I'm just, you know, getting my

Speaker 1 mask out. She goes, nobody, nobody does that.
Like, you don't have to do that here. And I was like,

Speaker 1 Really? That's crazy. And, you know, I walked through and some people had a mask on, which is fine.
If that's what you want to do and that makes you feel more comfortable, then do that.

Speaker 1 But the difference between, you know, DeSantis and Newsom

Speaker 1 was like stark, right?

Speaker 1 And you have, and even people on the beaches in California

Speaker 1 beaches were busy.

Speaker 1 No, but people were still required to wear masks. I understand.

Speaker 1 And in Florida, it was like, no, go out to the beach and like get some sun. And sun and air.
air

Speaker 1 as opposed to staying inside and day drinking and the

Speaker 1 which is going to make everybody put on like 15 pounds. The worst thing in an epidemic that killed two kinds of people, old and fat,

Speaker 1 old and fat. And that's what was weird.
It was like, so you would think in that moment that people be, or the country or you know, the governors or whomever would say,

Speaker 1 oh, okay,

Speaker 1 people need to be at a healthy weight to survive COVID, to survive anything.

Speaker 1 I suggested make it a national challenge. You love challenges on TikTok.
You know, hey, here's the stick something up your ass challenge. Great.
It's what all the kids are doing here. You know, eat

Speaker 1 horse manure challenge. Okay.

Speaker 1 And do that. How about,

Speaker 1 you know what? We're in a pandemic which kills obese.

Speaker 1 The fatter you were, the worse chances you had. Let's all lose 15.

Speaker 1 And they never even mentioned it.

Speaker 1 So don't expect my respect for you, government, if you can't even mention a key factor. I did editorials about that.

Speaker 1 Of course, the usual suspects hated me for that because we were still in the age of body positivity. Was there ever a more Orwellian idea than that fatness is positivity? It's, you know, like,

Speaker 1 it is, uh,

Speaker 1 you know, that being said, as a woman

Speaker 1 who's not fat.

Speaker 1 What? Okay, but

Speaker 1 you know,

Speaker 1 the idea that you're judging somebody by how they look. I'm not judging them.
I know.

Speaker 1 But if somebody's a, right, if somebody's a. Beauty's in the eye of the beholder.
Science is not.

Speaker 1 Wow, now you sound like Bobby. Because it's like.
Science is not in in the well, I would say.

Speaker 1 Because Bobby's like, uh,

Speaker 1 if only he would always go by the science.

Speaker 1 He does. I know he doesn't.

Speaker 1 Not always.

Speaker 1 But we don't get into minutia.

Speaker 1 But, but, um,

Speaker 1 no, I mean, beauty, yes. I mean, absolutely.
Everybody should enjoy what they enjoy. Yeah, you don't have to be.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 1 that's... Talking about the pendulum swinging.
So the pendulum was swinging to body positivity. Like, I weigh 300 pounds and I'm okay with it.
So you should be okay with it.

Speaker 1 I'm just saying when the pendulum was swinging to body positivity and somebody said, I weigh 300 pounds. Oh, okay.
It shouldn't bother you.

Speaker 1 It doesn't. Right, it doesn't.
But is it healthy? I don't know. But no, that's what I mean about the science is not in the eye of the beholder.
The science doesn't care about your feelings.

Speaker 1 The science is.

Speaker 1 And I did an editorial about this before COVID. I said this was like a year before COVID and James Corden attacked me viciously.
Very similar to the way

Speaker 1 Who's has attacked you. Very similar.

Speaker 1 Like a real nasty

Speaker 1 yes. Like, you know,

Speaker 1 he should like, you know, he's worrying about the shit we put in our mouth. He should worry about the shit that comes out of his mouth.
You know, kind of like...

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 it's such an easy argument to make. And all I was doing was presenting the facts.

Speaker 1 I was saying, this was during the, I think, the 2018 campaign of midterms and the Democrats were debating each other and the big issue was health care. And I just said,

Speaker 1 you can talk about health care until you're blue in the face and which person has the better program.

Speaker 1 It will never get solved until you enlist the help of the people themselves in making their health better.

Speaker 1 And the fact that you don't even, won't even mention

Speaker 1 the obesity issue because it would offend people.

Speaker 1 Then you have no, I don't respect you. And then I gave the statistics.
It's like, even before COVID, obesity affects everything in your health really badly. Yeah.
From eyesight to depression.

Speaker 1 Like everything is affected.

Speaker 1 So of course when a pandemic came around,

Speaker 1 it was going to take the fatties first.

Speaker 1 I'm so glad I was not drinking while you said that.

Speaker 1 Thank you.

Speaker 1 Thank you. This is a show for truth.
This is a truthful show.

Speaker 1 And the very old, you know? And if I was a fat old person, I would get the vaccine too.

Speaker 1 Which, by the way, people that were vulnerable,

Speaker 1 those are the people that should have gotten the vaccine. And people

Speaker 1 who had

Speaker 1 natural immunity, who already had it, who were in great health,

Speaker 1 who, you know, maybe they maybe we should have taken a step back and said you're already healthy you're gonna be okay you don't need this and it's not even saying you're against it right what the the mature answer is that of course medical interventions especially of the last hundred years are valuable i don't want to live in a world without antibiotics i also don't want to take antibiotics If I don't have to.

Speaker 1 But if I don't, yeah, right.

Speaker 1 But if I have to, I'm very glad they're around. Right.
I don't don't want to have a vaccine unless I really think.

Speaker 1 I have to. There are things out there that I would like fight you for the vaccine.

Speaker 1 You know? But COVID. How many bad are you? COVID.
No, I'm just.

Speaker 1 That was a bad joke at your expense.

Speaker 1 I love a bad joke at my expense.

Speaker 1 That's what makes this show work.

Speaker 1 That's why we're number one in the morning.

Speaker 1 Number one. What is it called? Oh, what is it? Number one.
That's what it's called. Number one, later on.
No, what's the name of our show? It's a terrible name. A fester.
Oh, fester.

Speaker 1 Don't let it fester. Just fester.
We had another name before that. Yeah, we had another name.
But, I mean, we'll never know because

Speaker 1 Drunkenstone. And

Speaker 1 when we review the tape,

Speaker 1 wrap it up. Here's what we're going to know.
When we watch this tape back, which neither one of us will do ever.

Speaker 1 We're going to know that we're going to have

Speaker 1 a morning show. It's only gonna be on Mondays for some reason no Mondays

Speaker 1 and it's gonna be and we're gonna

Speaker 1 Mondays is the day that we ask

Speaker 1 how if your weekend included any festering festering but you know that's your just idea no

Speaker 1 great ideas we're gonna shoot it at three in the morning because we we figure that nothing is gonna happen from three till six nine the next day and we're gonna predict what's gonna happen the next day and we're gonna say

Speaker 1 here's what's probably happening today

Speaker 1 Here's what's probably happening today, and then we'll give our best guesses, which will probably be right. It's actually a good idea, you know what I mean? It's actually a great idea.

Speaker 1 It actually I wish I could remember the name of our show to just let it fester, don't let it fester. This is what festers.
All right, I'm going to squash the fester part of it. That was

Speaker 1 not attractive, it's not, but the first one was more attractive. I don't remember what that one was, but it was

Speaker 1 like it's on tape somewhere,

Speaker 1 but um,

Speaker 1 spit take, we could call it. By the way, there were three spit takes in this show.

Speaker 1 That's why I know it was a good time. Well, thank you.
I've kept you here, I'm sure, longer than I should have. I would love to just keep talking.
I would, too. I just

Speaker 1 could feel the crew getting.

Speaker 1 If we go home, we have to go to the bathroom.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I could do it all night.

Speaker 1 I know we could. That's what I've heard about you.
Good night, everybody. Hey.

Speaker 1 Okay. All right.
Oh, and if you haven't heard by now,

Speaker 1 Unscripted by Cheryl Hines, it's

Speaker 1 so

Speaker 1 engrossing. I read it while

Speaker 1 you have not. But you know what?

Speaker 1 I just got it. I'm going to read it.
I'm not going to read comedy. You know, there's a.

Speaker 1 There's an audio version too if you just want to listen while you're coming to the bottom. I would never do that.

Speaker 1 Really? I like, you know, you like the words. I like them, you know.

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