BEST OF NFL Week 16 Part 1: Jerry Jones' FAILURE, & Puka Nacua needs to CHILL!

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Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson deliver the Best of the NFL as they rip Jerry Jones for his continued failure to lead the Cowboys to the playoffs, and react to Puka Nacua landing in hot water after his heated run-in with referees.

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0:00 - Bengals Def. Dolphins
9:27 - Puka Nacua calls out refs in Rams loss
21:11 - Patriots Def. Ravens
31:25 - Steelers Def. Lions
46:26 - Cowboys eliminated from playoffs

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Speaker 3 Chants echo.

Speaker 1 Drum beating.

Speaker 3 Everybody showing that school pride.

Speaker 6 Game like this?

Speaker 7 Yeah, it calls for an ice-cold Coca-Cola.

Speaker 8 Ah, crisp and refreshing. That's a game changer right there.

Speaker 1 Mmm, yeah.

Speaker 3 That taste always hits the right note, just like a band at halftime.

Speaker 4 And just like that, we're back at it.

Speaker 6 Passionate fans, school colors everywhere, and an ice cold Coca-Cola.

Speaker 7 That's a winning combo.

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Speaker 1 The Bengals beat the Guppies.

Speaker 43 Oh, take your time when you talk about it now.

Speaker 1 45-21. Chase Brown stats.
He had 66 yards rushing, a touchdown.

Speaker 1 And he had 43 yards receiving. He had three total touchdowns on today.

Speaker 1 Joe was dealing today.

Speaker 1 Chase had a day.

Speaker 1 T got off to a hot start.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 1 it's just disappointing. I mean,

Speaker 1 I kind of empathize with Joe because I kind of know what he's feeling. He's like, look,

Speaker 1 Ocho, 25 or 32, 309, four touchdowns. No picks.

Speaker 43 Yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 1 No picks.

Speaker 1 45 yards rushing. We had 313 yards passing.
And guess what? We five and 10. Yeah.
Hey, the best we could hope, OJo, the best we could hope for is seven and ten.

Speaker 43 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. With all that,

Speaker 43 you're right. But hey, sometimes, sometimes you're going to have seasons like this, huh?

Speaker 43 Sometimes, you know, you look around and what you got offensively and you look at what it should be on paper. You look at what we did offensively last year.

Speaker 43 But you understand, listen, we didn't get what we wanted. We put the work in in the offseason, training camp, preseason, and it just didn't pan out the way we thought it would.
You know what you do?

Speaker 43 You get your ass back to the drawing board, and you get right back to work.

Speaker 43 You take some time off, get your mental reset, you play these last two games, get away from the game, and you come back ready to do it again. You don't complain.

Speaker 43 You don't fuss.

Speaker 43 You know, you don't you don't you don't try to jump ship because you know it ain't selling the way you want it to sell and you get back to work. That's what you do.

Speaker 43 You be a professional, as you would say.

Speaker 43 That's it. That's all to it.
That's all to it. But them goddamn bangles look good today, boy.

Speaker 43 I'm mad they beat my dolphins. But it shows it show look.
It's like, you know,

Speaker 43 when your current girlfriend, your current girlfriend catch your ex, you know, they get into it.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 43 Yeah, that's what that was today.

Speaker 43 That's what that was today. And the ex, the ex done whooped up on the, you know, the ex done

Speaker 43 the ex done whooped upon the on your new girl? That's all it was.

Speaker 1 Quinn Ewes was 20 or 32.60, no touchdowns, two pits.

Speaker 1 Devon A. Chan ran the ball 15 times for 81 yards in the touchdown.
Jalen had, he was told to, yeah, he's over a thousand yards, I'm sure. As a matter of fact, I think James Cook might be in the lead.

Speaker 1 He might have the

Speaker 1 rushing lead now.

Speaker 43 Wait, he's patting Jonathan Taylor? Yeah.

Speaker 1 He got to be over 1,500 yards now. James Cook.

Speaker 1 He's at 1532. 1532.

Speaker 1 So he's almost 100 yards clear, Jonathan Taylor.

Speaker 1 Taylor does.

Speaker 1 Who does any play? Oh, they play the

Speaker 1 Niners. Right?

Speaker 1 Colts play the Niners tomorrow.

Speaker 1 Man, OJo.

Speaker 43 What's wrong?

Speaker 1 They're They're going to blow this whole thing up in Miami.

Speaker 43 They worry about blowing it up. They better figure out what they're going to do at the quarterback position, huh?

Speaker 1 They blowing it up. He's gone.

Speaker 43 Yeah, I mean, they could blow it up, but what's the answer? Where are we going?

Speaker 43 Where are we going?

Speaker 43 How are we going to compete in the AFCEs?

Speaker 1 It just goes to show you when owners step in, when you hire somebody to do a job, let them do the job.

Speaker 43 Let them do it.

Speaker 1 Because Brian Flores,

Speaker 1 and they would have taken

Speaker 1 justin herbert

Speaker 43 they would have been dealing boy

Speaker 43 they would they would have been dealing

Speaker 1 they've been dealing now now you set the franchise back because guess what ocho you got to go back into the market and try to find another quarterback

Speaker 1 and you got a lot of issues you got a lot a lot of issues defensively you got to get some coin you got to get a cornerback uh you need some uh you know i like brooks

Speaker 1 Brooks had another phenomenal day. I think he's leading the league in tackles.
He had another 14-tackle day today.

Speaker 1 But you need some corners. You need probably offensive line.

Speaker 1 Hey,

Speaker 1 Darren Waller come back. He got life.

Speaker 1 I think there's more than a 90% chance that he's going to be looking to come back. He's played well.
He made some plays.

Speaker 43 Oh, yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 1 And now he got a whole year, you know, probably a whole full offseason to train and get his mind mentally prepared to come back and play football.

Speaker 1 I think he can help the Dolphins. Listen or help someone.

Speaker 43 Yeah, I mean, let's see,

Speaker 43 I'm assuming he'd want to be back here in Miami, but Miami needs to go to the bathroom. Go to Denver.

Speaker 43 Go to where?

Speaker 1 Denver.

Speaker 43 Nah, nah, ain't anybody trying to go away up there in the cold weather. You want to be right here in Miami, man.

Speaker 1 You played in the cold weather.

Speaker 43 Yeah, because I enjoy the cold. I have an appreciation for the cold.

Speaker 1 You don't enjoy it that much. You live in Miami.

Speaker 43 I mean, because it's where I was born.

Speaker 1 I don't got nothing to do with it.

Speaker 43 You want me to move?

Speaker 1 love the cold if you love the cold so much there are plenty there's there's a lot of places right now where it's cold you like the warmth right i know it's that's not what it is because guess what tennessee is a no state tax so you want to if you want to say a no state tax you can go to tennessee

Speaker 1 but hey i have kids they here in miami that's okay no it's not it's not okay let me ask you yeah when the kid when you was playing football where were the kids With me in Cincinnati? No, they weren't.

Speaker 43 Yeah, they were. No, they weren't.
Where do you thought they was at?

Speaker 1 They was in Miami. No, they was with me so all your kids was in school with you in cincinnati yeah i homeschooled oh

Speaker 43 oh

Speaker 1 this man for one time just tell the truth oh cho the kids was in miami it's me my kids right here they'll tell you they here right now your kids no no no

Speaker 1 when i came to interview you were with the kids so how the kids stayed with you when you was in when you was staying at the bingo's facility Well, they weren't me the first two years.

Speaker 43 I'm talking about after that.

Speaker 1 It was with me. Okay, when I came to interview you, where were they? I didn't see them.

Speaker 43 No, they were downstairs. You ain't hear me.

Speaker 1 I was downstairs.

Speaker 43 No, they were downstairs making all that noise.

Speaker 1 There ain't what no noise there. You do realize I came to interview you, right?

Speaker 43 Yeah, that was you?

Speaker 43 That was you?

Speaker 1 This man here.

Speaker 43 Hey.

Speaker 1 No, you got used to liking the cold because you say, you know what?

Speaker 43 No, no, no. I always liked the cold.
I always liked the cold. I have to.

Speaker 1 How you like the cold when you never played in the cold? But you, wait.

Speaker 43 Hey, you don't know, you don't know where I used to be at. Uh, you know, what I used to do, I used to be making some runs out there in the cold.
Now,

Speaker 1 you look, the only time you played in some damn cold, you played one year in Oregon, and you probably had two games cold.

Speaker 43 Hey, it was cold up there, too. It's not really that cold like snow, but it gets about maybe 40, 50.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 it'll get cold like Cincinnati.

Speaker 43 Nah, oh, hell, nah.

Speaker 43 Hey, that raven, hey, that Ravens game, boy, with 10 degrees.

Speaker 43 I was so happy. I love that that, boy.

Speaker 1 I think this is what got Joe frustrated because he sees what they do offensively. He sees the 45 points.

Speaker 43 Yeah, but see, he can't worry about that, huh? He can't worry about that. You can't worry about what's going on with the defense.

Speaker 43 You can't.

Speaker 43 You got to just be able to do your job because if you start looking at everybody else and what's not going right in the other areas of the team, you just got to focus on you got to focus on Joe.

Speaker 1 I think the thing is, the Ocho, he said, but what about the times ocho when i scored 44 and we lost 45 44. yeah you tell me don't worry about the defense when i score 38 we lose 41 38.

Speaker 1 when i score 34 we lose 35 34. he says i'm i'm gonna do my side but do i trust you to build me a defense that's comp that's that's

Speaker 1 I'm not saying they need to be the Broncos. I'm not saying they need to be the 85 Bears or the 2000 Ravens.
But just get me a middle of the pack defense.

Speaker 1 Just get me somebody that doesn't give up 400 yards a game and 30 points a game.

Speaker 43 Give me somebody that says okay they give up 350 and they give up like 17 to 20 a game yeah can we do that yeah matter of fact 2021 when they made that run and went to the super bowl the defense they wasn't they wasn't top five they definitely went at the bottom they was right between 18 and 20.

Speaker 1 Yes, they were already

Speaker 1 think about the turnovers, the turnovers that they created.

Speaker 43 Yes, they accumulated a lot of turnovers as well. And you put the ball back in Burroughs' hands that 2021 season, or they were putting up points like a goddamn mamma jammo.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so now you're giving up, you know, you're giving up 400 yards a game, you're giving up 30 plus points a game.

Speaker 1 It's hard for you to win, especially go far

Speaker 1 because

Speaker 1 you know, one turnover or one situation where you don't get, you know, you go three and out, or you don't get points, the other team is going to make

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Speaker 2 What a matchup we got, y'all.

Speaker 4 This is that classic HBCU vibe.

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Speaker 6 Game like this?

Speaker 7 Yeah, it calls for an ice-cold Coca-Cola.

Speaker 8 Ah, crisp and refreshing. That's a game changer right there.

Speaker 1 Mmm, yeah.

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Speaker 4 And just like that, we're back at it.

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Speaker 1 If you pay, oh, Joe, just moments ago, Puka tweeted, Can you say I was wrong? Appreciate you, Stripe, for your contribution, L-O-L, off the hill. I mean, think about it, Ocho.

Speaker 1 Now, he just said, I mean, he just did a gesture. I didn't see it, but I guess he was on Aiden Ross's live stream, and Aiden talked him into doing a gesture.
And I guess

Speaker 1 it's deemed anti-Semitic. I didn't see it.
So, chat, I'm the last one to speak on it, but he apologized for that earlier today.

Speaker 1 You would think after having apologized for doing something that I don't believe he knew what it was.

Speaker 1 I don't, I don't, and I could be wrong, but I don't believe he knew the gesture that he was doing would be viewed as anti-Semitic, or that's how that the Jewish community, that's how they view the gesture.

Speaker 1 So I'm saying I don't believe he knew that, but to come out after the game and just say, Appreciate you, stripes, Puka, you don't get it, bro.

Speaker 43 Wait,

Speaker 1 go ahead, Ocho.

Speaker 43 I mean, the reference in Appreciate You Stripes, was that in reference to the refs?

Speaker 43 Oh, okay.

Speaker 1 I guess he said he appreciate them for, I guess, call. I don't know what it was, but bro, just let it pull you.

Speaker 43 Yeah, see, I mean,

Speaker 43 I need better context and perspective. I don't want to just jump to conclusion of what that actually means.

Speaker 1 I appreciate you, Stripe, for your contribution. I guess, because he's like, you know, remember he said, Ocho, these guys have regular jobs and they want to get on TV also.

Speaker 1 So sometimes they throw flags and say, hey, look, you can see me on TV. Puka, come on, bro.
Okay. Puka, you're too good.
You don't have to do all that.

Speaker 1 You don't.

Speaker 7 Okay.

Speaker 1 You would have thought

Speaker 1 after the gesture.

Speaker 1 Did they find him? Did you find him yesterday? Oh, this happened yesterday. Okay.

Speaker 43 Hey, hey, and the funny thing about it, too, when you think about it,

Speaker 43 I mean, there were no flags ever thrown that really.

Speaker 1 Yeah, there was really, really no passing appearance. I mean, you got the one on jsn which was really was a pass interference oh that

Speaker 1 was great position you don't need to twist him you're there

Speaker 1 oh joe he's there

Speaker 1 yeah yeah yeah oh joe you can't he played it you knew what it was running for the simple fact basically he walked off the line so you know either it's a double move which you got help over the top or it's the slant yeah you played it perfect there is no reason for you that means you're unsure you're not trusting what you saw on tape because if you trusted what you saw on tape,

Speaker 1 you wouldn't have felt the need to grab his waist. Because you're like, well, I got to do this just in case it's out and up.
But you didn't have to, bro. You got it played perfect.

Speaker 43 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Look,

Speaker 1 if I could talk to Pool guys like Pool Could, you don't have to do this, bro. Just go play.
Your game speaks loud. It speaks really, really loud, bro.
You don't have to do this. Don't get to that.

Speaker 1 Look, look. Because here's the thing, you know,

Speaker 1 these refs are human. Now, all of a sudden, now you start getting held, and they don't get the call, and you wonder why.

Speaker 1 There's a human element. People like, well, do you dispose it? No, you can't.
You that those refs are humans.

Speaker 43 Yeah,

Speaker 1 some that's you understand why some NBA players get calls and some don't sometimes.

Speaker 1 Some get teed up quick. Baseball, you keep arguing and say, okay, that ball might be right down the plate.
Ball,

Speaker 1 You look, bro.

Speaker 1 Just for me,

Speaker 1 just

Speaker 1 take it down a notch, book.

Speaker 1 Everybody knows who you are. You don't have to garner any more attention by, you know, saying outlandish things.

Speaker 1 I'm going to concede the fact, Ocho, that when he was on that stream, he did not realize what he was doing would be viewed as derogatory or whatever the case may be.

Speaker 1 I didn't see it, chat, but I'm saying

Speaker 1 because I didn't see it, the mere fact that he apologized let me know that he, somebody informed him that he had done something wrong or what he did was viewed as wrong. Go ahead, Ocho.

Speaker 43 Hold on, he's apologizing because it had to be backlash for whatever it was. I mean, no one apologizes unless there's backlash and

Speaker 43 you're informed from those around you, you know, those who are in position, you know, that help you in what you're doing. Hey, listen, this is something that you did on stream.

Speaker 43 You know, certain people aren't taking it well. You need to come out and apologize.
So they write some up for you. You know how they do it.
They write some up for you. That's not in your words.

Speaker 43 And you post it and hit send. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I like, look, I like, I've been around him a little bit. You know, he was in the, I coached the all-star game in Indy one year, NBA All-Star game.
And I like Puka. I love his game.
I love his game.

Speaker 1 I love the physicality in which he plays with.

Speaker 1 I don't know how long you can play that style, Ocho, when you get that many targets and you think about all the bubble screens and all the stuff, the inserts that he runs. You see what happened.

Speaker 1 You actually think about it, Ocho. When you really go back and think about it, you know, Cooper Cup only had one 1,000-yard season.

Speaker 1 It was that historic season.

Speaker 1 Ocho, let that sink in. And after he had that season, what happened, Ocho? He broke down.

Speaker 1 So he's catching a lot of stuff that's the physicality. Now, he's a little bigger than Cooper, but Cup ain't no small guy.
People don't realize Cooper Cup likes 6'3.

Speaker 43 Man, Cooper Cup taller than

Speaker 43 300.

Speaker 1 See, I think people think they think Slot, they think Julian Edelman, they think Amandola.

Speaker 1 They think Brandon Stokely. They think Wes Welker.
Nope. Yeah, now them boys.

Speaker 1 The Ram slot receivers are big, big men. I mean, 6'2, 6'3, 210, 215, 220.

Speaker 1 And you have to be that size because you're going to take a lot of collisions. Hold up, let me see.
Puka had 16 targets.

Speaker 1 He caught 12 up for 225. So you know, Ocho, when you catch that many passes and the rotten, and the amount of passes that he catches behind the line of scrimmage.

Speaker 1 So, you know, a lot of times, D-lineman hitting you from the back, LB's hitting you from the side, safety's coming downhill.

Speaker 1 But,

Speaker 1 look, I know everybody's going to say, man, that two-point two-point conversion. That's why you play snap the whistle.

Speaker 43 Right.

Speaker 1 That's why you a

Speaker 1 Seattle, I mean, it's like it was like

Speaker 1 the Rams didn't realize it. They thought it was just tipped.
It's like it was incomplete. They didn't realize it was a backwards pass.

Speaker 43 Yeah,

Speaker 43 I didn't realize it was either.

Speaker 43 I didn't.

Speaker 43 Everybody on the field stopped. So when everybody on the field stopped, I thought I thought.

Speaker 1 Guess who didn't stop?

Speaker 1 Charbonneau.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 But that's what, remember, OJO? It's like, okay, the ball, and you see guys all the time scrambling for the ball.

Speaker 1 Sometimes, like, well, that was a forward pass. Well, I'm going to make sure it was a forward pass.
I'm going to pick it up and head the other way.

Speaker 1 Because if it wasn't a forward pass, it's about to be a touchdown or it's about to be our ball.

Speaker 43 One or the other.

Speaker 1 And the officials, all they did was this. Wasn't no whistleblow.
Ain't no whistleblow.

Speaker 43 It's so funny. The officials was on top of it, and the officials don't even let you know it's a live ball.
They just sit there staring, just waiting. just waiting

Speaker 1 i can't tell you

Speaker 1 you might want to see i know i shouldn't have listened to you ocho man you had a man rashie he had 91 yard last week guess how many passes he catch ocho

Speaker 1 how many

Speaker 1 everything else though you but you bulljo look what you call him puka got a touchdown uh Kyra Williams had 70 yards what what else the only one we missed was that I mean he I could I'd have felt better if he'd have 10 yards 15 yards well hold on hold on hold on now that is not that bad because everything else i told you to go i mean it was it was a green light now what you missed one that bad because we don't get no money

Speaker 1 at all

Speaker 43 damn

Speaker 1 and we don't get nothing nothing

Speaker 1 but look

Speaker 1 i'm anxious to hear what uh uh sean mcvay said because maybe sean mcvay said well we heard the whistle blow.

Speaker 1 Well, if the whistle blows, it doesn't matter if it was a backwards pass, the ball's dead.

Speaker 1 Whistle blows means plays over.

Speaker 43 Over, yeah.

Speaker 1 Anything that happens after that is null and void. So it's gonna be interesting to hear.
I'd be interested to hear, chat.

Speaker 1 I don't know what y'all, if y'all watch the press conference or listen to what the press conference had to say. Oh, Joe, did you see

Speaker 1 A.J. Barner's route, that seven route that he caught?

Speaker 1 The touchdown?

Speaker 43 No, you should should like the post-ponder, the post-porn post, no, the corner post.

Speaker 1 That's the route that Travis Kelsey was supposed to run against Derwin James. You know why? Because Travis Kelsey does sometimes run a far cross.
So now you sell it.

Speaker 1 So you're going up like this, and then you look like you're going up a far cross. Guess what he's gonna do? He's gonna try to undercut you.

Speaker 1 And in the process of undercutting it, now you bend it back to the seven.

Speaker 43 Back to the corner, yeah.

Speaker 43 That was that was a nice little route.

Speaker 1 A great route.

Speaker 43 hey, I thought he, I thought he was gonna drop it the way he had to refer that.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but I thought he overshot it.

Speaker 1 I definitely thought he overshot it, but I read a I read a seven just like that against San Diego on a boot. Yeah, read that thing, Ocho.
I hit like three steps to the post. I look,

Speaker 1 I said, Oh, boy, you'd have picked that off if I was going to the post. But unfortunately for you, I'm going to the seven.

Speaker 1 You went back, you went back.

Speaker 43 Hold on, hold on, John. John rode left and no, it was uh

Speaker 1 it Jake Plumber.

Speaker 43 Oh, so Jake, I mean,

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Speaker 1 Okay, okay, okay. I said, yeah, I said, it sucks for you, bro.

Speaker 43 You scored?

Speaker 1 For the third time.

Speaker 43 Okay, okay, okay.

Speaker 1 All right. But look here, I know the Rams lost tonight.

Speaker 1 I don't know who wants to see them.

Speaker 1 Even though they lost, I still think, I think if they play again, they'll beat them.

Speaker 43 Yeah, probably.

Speaker 43 Well, you know what? I don't know.

Speaker 1 The games are close because you got to realize, I think the Rams kicked the field goal to beat them. It's going to be a close game.
Oh, Joe, it's a division rival. They know each other.

Speaker 1 I know you. You know me.

Speaker 43 Know me.

Speaker 1 Seattle is probably saying, hold on, guys. If we don't turn the ball over three times, we had three turnovers.
Remember, Cooper Cup fumbled.

Speaker 1 And they could have got three points, three points, or maybe even a touchdown out of that.

Speaker 43 Out of that.

Speaker 1 Yeah. So Seattle's thinking, bro, we take care of the ball.
Hey,

Speaker 1 we good. If I'm the Rams, it's like they're looking at the opportunities that were squandered, especially early.

Speaker 1 He overshoots Cooper. I mean, excuse me, he overshoots Puka.

Speaker 1 Lineman comes in. He's blocking down the field.

Speaker 1 Takes a touchdown off the board. You end up having to sell it for three.

Speaker 1 They go for it on fourth down. It's fourth and an inch, and they don't get it.

Speaker 43 Yeah.

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Speaker 43 Hey, you know what you should feel like right now?

Speaker 1 You know what you should feel like?

Speaker 43 I probably, like, honestly, I'm not sure if you've ever had to talk, you know, I'm not sure if you ever had to to take the walk of shame you know dealing with an older woman and they always put you out the house that's how you should feel you you should feel like that right now like you should feel empty you should feel used um

Speaker 43 uh abandoned i'm not sure what other words i can think of to to to kind of but that's the only

Speaker 43 huh i feel let down yeah yeah yeah you should you should you should because hey the way you've been boasting and bragging about your broncos have i not had something to boast and brag about on your damn i mean but listen y'all listen, y'all had a one hell of a season.

Speaker 43 Y'all, y'all gonna.

Speaker 1 What you mean, the season ain't over, we 12 and three.

Speaker 43 I know, but I'm saying y'all had y'all 12 and three. That's what I'm saying.
You had one hell of a season still.

Speaker 43 I'm not saying, I'm not saying anything. Y'all still going.
Listen, y'all still going to the playoffs.

Speaker 1 Absolutely.

Speaker 43 Listen, tonight, tonight, it's all about tonight. We ain't talking about the future.
We ain't talking about the future. We talk about tonight.
Boy, y'all got y'all ass. You know what?

Speaker 43 I'm not even going to curse tonight.

Speaker 1 Okay, we're going to get to that game, but let's get to the game that we just

Speaker 1 watched. The Patriots beat the Baltimore Ravens Ravens by the score of 28 to 24.
Drake made 31 to 44, 380, two touchdowns. He had the one pick, but he was sensational.

Speaker 1 They ran the ball 23 times for 79 yards. Lamar Jackson got injured again, left the game.
Seemed like he took a knee to the ribs. He did not return.

Speaker 1 Tyler Huntley came in, played well, 9 of 10, 65 yards. Derrick Henry, 18 carries, 128, two touchdowns, but somehow he's got to find a way to protect the football.
Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 If Zay Flowers, you would think by now the Ravens players would know that to protect the football, but the M.O. is out on them, Ocho.
Yes. Derrick Henry, one guy's going to tackle you.

Speaker 1 The other guy is going to try to get the ball out. Get the ball, yes.
Zay Flowers, you watching camp. Ocho, how many times have we seen the drill, the defense run?

Speaker 1 Somebody throws the ball and the entire defense sprints and goes to the football. The D line, the D ends, the D tackles, the no's, whatever you run, they chase the football.
Zay.

Speaker 1 Did you really think that you're five yards from the line of scrimmage, that you're going to start and stop, stop and nobody's going to come from behind? Yeah. Nobody.

Speaker 43 Hey, Uncle When you make those kind of moves, they're as shitty as Zay Flowers is, he has to understand you got time for one move. After that, knowing the journey's over.

Speaker 43 Know when the journey's over because pursuit is coming. You got to know it.
You got time for one move. You catch, you make one move, you either get your ass down.
Or you go for it.

Speaker 43 You don't have time to make two. He tried to make a second move, huh?

Speaker 1 Oh, Cho, and you can see two. Oh, Cho, there's a minute and 45, minute and 50 50 seconds on the clock, and you got three timeouts.
Yeah. You got plenty of time.
That's the equivalent of three minutes.

Speaker 1 If you get out of bounds, no time, you don't even have to use your timeouts, but you got enough time to use your timeouts. There is nothing to be in a rush about.

Speaker 1 Hey,

Speaker 1 be fast, but don't be in a rush.

Speaker 43 In a hurry.

Speaker 1 In a hurry, yeah. That's it, Ocho.
I don't get it. Zay Flowers, you got a problem, bro.
Yeah. You remember in the AFC championship game?

Speaker 1 We've seen him have that problem again this year.

Speaker 43 Dee Henry, you got a problem bro yeah that's that's the guy's gonna one guy's gonna tackle you the other guy's coming to get the ball out henry yeah i'm just telling you what it is now bro yeah you're right listen d henry d henry his problem was obviously on he was wearing them goddamn sleeves and you can't feel the goddamn ball when you got them sleeves on remember he had the double sleeves on and i said on the show i guarantee you the rest of the season he's gonna take them damn sleeves off so he can feel the ball underneath his skin you got to be able to feel that pig skin and then obviously tonight it was it was unlucky somebody wrapped him up and listen, he hit the ball at the right place.

Speaker 43 He hit the ball in the right place, and it came out. Zay got to understand.
You got to know when the journey is over, young boy. You got to understand.
I know you want to make a play.

Speaker 43 We know you're shifty. We know one person ain't going to make a tackle or be able to bring you down.

Speaker 43 But in that situation, you got to know, get all you can and get your ass down so you guys can do what you need to do and continue in that drive.

Speaker 1 If you don't mind me asking, where did Derrick Henry have the ball? Did he have the ball high and tight or did he have the ball right here?

Speaker 43 A little low. It was a little low.
Exactly.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it was a little low you now you now you see now okay he came back he started carrying it high but sometimes he relaxed and you know in football you can't relax ocho no absolutely not you got to be on high alert at all times but look nate wiggins had a chance to seal the game he guessed right they ran a slant he played it perfect ocho yeah yeah yeah they blitzed you gotta close the deal yeah you gotta close that deal oh cho he You can't play it any better, Ocho.

Speaker 1 He started creeping inside. He beat him to the point.
Ocho, you end the deal. That's a pick.
You got to hit your head on the goalposts.

Speaker 1 Now you run into the end zone and jump and slide down the goalpost like you're a virman. Yes, sir.

Speaker 1 When he didn't make that play, I said he lost the game. Yeah, he almost got it.
It always happens like that.

Speaker 43 Go ahead, OJo. I say, I say he almost got it.
Listen, he read it right. He understood there was a bits coming.
And obviously, when the bits is coming, that goddamn hot, it was two by two.

Speaker 43 You know, the slant is coming every single time.

Speaker 43 You watch him film and he knows that. And he understood the sign and he just wasn't able to make the play.

Speaker 1 No, no, no. You got to make.
Oh, Joe, you gotta make the play. Yeah, because guess what happened?

Speaker 1 They go down and score a touchdown. Yeah, because the whole thing, what we say, Ocho, if they make a mistake, we've got to make them pay the ultimate price of pick six.
Yes, sir.

Speaker 1 If we make a mistake, quarterback, just hold on to the ball. Wide receiver, if the ball is thrown up there, just break it up.

Speaker 1 Get a PI. Just don't let them get.

Speaker 1 You got to make that play, son.

Speaker 43 Yes, sir.

Speaker 1 I can't. I can't.
We got the perfect defense on. We got the right call on.
And guess what? The bliss is coming. You know it's ojo.
He took one step and he starts creeping inside.

Speaker 1 If they run a slugo, he dared to write. But you know what?

Speaker 43 He done. He done.

Speaker 1 Cause it's, son, if they run a slugo, that's on me.

Speaker 43 That's on us. Yes.

Speaker 1 If they run that slant, you be there to take it to the house. Yes, sir.
I'll be damn.

Speaker 43 Yeah. Hey, they goddamn Drake mate, huh? Boy, that goddamn Drake mate, you hear me? Hey, I don't know what it is about Robert Craft.

Speaker 43 I don't know who does the goddamn drafting there, but boy, they've been lucky. Boy, they have been lucky.
Obviously, you didn't hit with Mac Jones his first year. His first year, he was phenomenal.

Speaker 43 Yeah. His first year, he was a major.

Speaker 1 Tell the people who his offensive coordinator was.

Speaker 43 Josh McDaniels.

Speaker 1 Okay, who's the Drake Mays' offensive coordinator?

Speaker 43 Josh McDaniels.

Speaker 1 Okay, Bill Belichick tried to get cute. He's going to have Matt Patricia and Joe Judge to be his offensive coordinator.

Speaker 43 Yeah, yeah. Matt Patricia is a defensive specialist, huh? Matt Patricia is a defensive specialist.
You know, I know that.

Speaker 43 Those who understand the game and been around the game long enough understand that's his specialty. There's no reason Matt Patricia should have been calling anything offensively.
There's a reason why

Speaker 43 Mac Jones, I mean, Mac Jones, there's a reason why Drake May looks the way he does. Not only does he have the right supporting cast, not only does he have the right supporting cast,

Speaker 43 led by Stephon Diggs and brother Mac Hollins

Speaker 43 and Boute and the rest of them young boys. They have a great running game.
They have a great running game.

Speaker 43 And that goddamn Josh McDaniels is playing to Drake Make Strengths. He's playing to Drake Make Strengths, and it's making things easy.
They're making it look easy.

Speaker 43 I mean, the Patriots are back, huh? They in the playoffs now.

Speaker 1 They are back.

Speaker 1 They got a chance. They got a chance

Speaker 1 along with look.

Speaker 1 The Patriots, the Broncos,

Speaker 1 the Jags, all have a chance.

Speaker 1 The Chargers all got a chance at the number one seed. Oh, yeah.
Absolutely. The inside track, basically, it could be the Jags because the Jags have beat the Broncos.
They beat the Chargers.

Speaker 1 They beat the 49ers. They beat the Chiefs.

Speaker 43 Yeah.

Speaker 1 How is that for an impressive resume?

Speaker 43 Yeah, very impressive. And matter of fact, you know what? The Ferrari is still in the garage.

Speaker 43 The Ferrari for the Jaguar is still in the garage. I'm assuming he's out for the season, right?

Speaker 1 Who that?

Speaker 43 Travis Hunter.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 43 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Listen, listen.
I mean, listen, the Ferrari,

Speaker 43 as I like to call him, he's still in the garage. So they were able to do what they've done this year offensively without Travis Hunter, your number two pick.

Speaker 43 You know, someone who's special, who's been a, who's been, who we know can do some things on both sides of the ball. And they've been, they've been phenomenal all year long.

Speaker 43 And with the Jaguars, what, 11 and 4 or 12 and 4?

Speaker 1 Yes, 11 and 4.

Speaker 43 Man, listen. Duval,

Speaker 1 man, Ocho.

Speaker 1 they might as well just go ahead and shut Lamar down.

Speaker 1 Yeah, well,

Speaker 1 he has not been the same since he's came back. And, Ocho, and you know, I don't really advocate for anything like this, but it might be time for the Ravens to get a new voice.

Speaker 1 They're moving further and further away from getting where they want to be.

Speaker 43 Right.

Speaker 43 Hold on, wait, wait. Take your time.
Take your time real quick now. It's Sunday.
So, if you're going to preach, I'm going to need better context and to give me a little bit more perspective.

Speaker 43 Now, I think they need a new voice, a new voice.

Speaker 1 Yes, a new, yes, they need to go in a different direction. First of all, they've allowed this team to get old and slow.

Speaker 1 They got no pass rush. Drake May had all night.
And when you brought pressure, that sacrificed your back end. Yes.
Marlon Humphrey's a little older now.

Speaker 1 He's not the same Marlon Humphrey that he once was. Although he had great, a great coverage on Williams, it was just a perfect throw.
But you cannot allow the guy to pat the ball.

Speaker 1 Drake May was just patting the ball. Just patting the ball.
Just patting the ball all night long. And when you brought pressure because they're not good in coverage, he's just picking them apart.

Speaker 43 Yeah.

Speaker 1 And I look at the Ravens right now. There's not one Baltimore Raven fan that can tell you that they have a realistic chance if they were to make the playoffs.

Speaker 1 Even if Lamar came back, they got a realistic chance of getting to and winning the Super Bowl. They're further away now.

Speaker 1 They've gotten further and further away from the Super Bowl than what they were a couple of years ago.

Speaker 1 the Steelers beat the Lions 29-24. Jerry Goff somehow scored an eight-yard rush touchdown as time expired, but an offensive penalty nullified the game-winning score.

Speaker 1 Head referee Carl Chepers explained because the penalty was on the offense that Goff's touchdown was nullified.

Speaker 1 By NFL rules, an offensive penalty when time expired does not trigger a replay for a previous play. So the Steelers walked away with a crucial late season victory.
Oh, Joe, at some point in time.

Speaker 43 Yeah, talk to me.

Speaker 1 What's the coach name?

Speaker 1 The Lions coach. Oh, Dan Campbell.
Dan Campbell. Yes, sir.
At what point in time, Ocho, is he going to take points?

Speaker 43 Oh, instead of just going forward?

Speaker 1 So now, if he take the points in the first quarter, but he got the ball bracked down to kick a field goal. Guess what he gets to do now, Ocho? Walk it off.

Speaker 43 Walk it off, yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 You did that last year, and it worked for you.

Speaker 43 Yes.

Speaker 1 Just like the Chiefs. Ocho, the Chiefs' record in one-score games last year was what? Now look at them this year and one-score games.
It's the complete opposite.

Speaker 1 If you think what you did last year is going to carry over and translate to what you do this year, you're fooling yourself.

Speaker 1 It weighs out. There's no way you can be

Speaker 1 30 wins in one

Speaker 1 score games. You can't keep going for Dan Campbell on fourth down.
You're putting too much pressure, too much pressure on your team.

Speaker 43 Yeah.

Speaker 1 And he's going for it on fourth and four. Oh, Jordan, it ain't fourth and one.
Yeah. It's fourth and four.

Speaker 43 Yeah,

Speaker 43 listen,

Speaker 43 that's extreme confidence in your team. That's extreme confidence in your offense, extreme confidence in your game plan, your schematics, and everything you have going on where you feel.

Speaker 43 Hey, fourth and four,

Speaker 43 man, F analytics, I don't care what analytics say, we're going for it because I believe in my team. This is the guns that I stick by, and I'm going to stick by them.

Speaker 43 This is what I've always done, and I'm going to die on that hill.

Speaker 1 It takes you have to be special, Ocho, to be confident and not delusional. You got to be careful.

Speaker 43 I like that. That's a good one right there, boy.

Speaker 1 That's a skill in and of itself to be confident and not delusional.

Speaker 1 Just look at your team.

Speaker 1 Is your team the same, is your team offensively and your team defensively the same as it was last year?

Speaker 43 No, defensively, they're not. They are depleted defensively.
I'm talking about completely depleted. Offensively,

Speaker 43 you still there.

Speaker 1 You still got a point that they need. Look at your defense.
I think both of your corners are out. Your safety is out.

Speaker 43 Safety is out. Yep.
Brian Branch is out. Kirby Joseph.
I mean, that's both strong and free, huh?

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 43 Yeah. So, yeah, they're depleted.
Matter of fact, the damn Lions have the same issue they had last year.

Speaker 43 Defensively. Yes.
Everybody was hurt. Everybody was banged up.

Speaker 43 The onus of winning games was on the offense, which is why you had to go for it sometimes on those four downs and that might be the reason why he is doing it because he didn't what he doesn't want to put the ball back in aaron rodgers hands we got to go for it hoping we can get it because our offense is that good i trust in jamison i trust in my quarterback jerry goff to make the right decisions with the ball

Speaker 43 i got jameer gibbs i got david montgomery i got you know So he's going for it, trusting that his team is going to do what they need to do because I don't want to put my defense back out there.

Speaker 1 I think you got to tip your hat to the Steelers' defense, OJo. Yeah, they played great.

Speaker 1 Detroit ran the ball 12 times for 15 yards. They played better than that.
When have we seen somebody hold this

Speaker 1 Lions rush attack

Speaker 1 to 15 yards with Gibbs and Montgomery?

Speaker 1 Puts a lot of stress on Jerry Goff, and he was good. He was 34, 54, 364, three touchdowns.

Speaker 43 Nope, no picks.

Speaker 1 No picks.

Speaker 1 I'm surprised that they called that on Tesla. But, bro, you got to make it seem you just can't run in there and put your head down.
They're going to call it.

Speaker 1 Ocho, you got to make, ocho, all you got to do, you want to make the guy bubble. Just go down there and turn around right quick like you're looking for the ball.
Because

Speaker 1 St. Brown is going to be right off your hip.
You can't run into the guy. They're going to call it every time.

Speaker 43 Every time.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 I bet your doorknob to a bucket of commoner. His position coach has gone over with him that, gone over that with him numerous times.
Son, you just can't run into the guy.

Speaker 1 You got to make it look like you're running a route.

Speaker 1 If you run into the guy, that's not running a route. They're going to think you're blocking him.
And they're going to call it every time, son.

Speaker 43 Yeah, I'm sure

Speaker 43 you know it's coached like that. You know it is.

Speaker 43 Because that co-coaches are going to be thorough on plays like that because they know if you don't do it the right way, you know the flag is coming out. The flag is coming.
You know it's coming.

Speaker 1 The Lions' playoff hopes are slim to none now, Ocho. Detroit leads the Packers to lose their last two games against the Ravens and the Vikings.

Speaker 1 And the Lions need to win their last two games against the Vikings and the North leading Chicago Bears in order to keep their playoffs hopes alive.

Speaker 1 It's not looking good. The Steelers,

Speaker 1 same thing with the Steelers. The Steelers are in a commanding position.

Speaker 1 They would need to lose their last two games and have the Baltimore Ravens win their last two games. And I don't see that happening.

Speaker 1 The Ravens,

Speaker 1 that's over. Yeah.
That's over. But back to back to Detroit.

Speaker 1 Aaron Rodgers was 27-41, 266, one touchdowns, no interception. He was sacked twice.

Speaker 1 Jalen Warren, 14 carries, Ocho, above 43.

Speaker 1 10 yards of carry. They had 230 yards rushing.

Speaker 1 Kenneth Gainwell was unbelievable. That catch that he made, I still don't know how he caught that.

Speaker 43 That was nice. Listen, you talk about the football guys being on your side, the ball bouncing in your favor.

Speaker 43 That's all that was. That was nothing but the football guys on Brother Gainwell's side.
You know, and the fact, hey, he's such an awesome dude, threat honk. He can run the ball.

Speaker 43 They can line him up outside. He can come out the backfield, you know, run, oh, man, run diagonals.

Speaker 43 He can run deep. I mean, he's really, he's been a great acquisition to that offense for Aaron Rodgers.

Speaker 1 I love what Aaron Rodgers said. Aaron Rodgers said, we got him on the cheap.
He said, my job is to get him paid. He said, I'm going to get him paid.
He damn sure going to get him paid.

Speaker 1 I don't know if he's going to be in Pittsburgh, but somebody can use that. He can return funds.
He can catch the ball out of the backfield. He can run the ball.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he's small, but Darren Sprolls played a Darren Sprolls played damn near 15 years, and he was smaller than Gangwell. So I don't want to hear nothing about it.
I don't care nothing about no size.

Speaker 43 And

Speaker 43 what's important also is Gangwill going to a place where they're going to use him to his strengths.

Speaker 43 The Steelers are using him to his strengths, you know, finding the mismatches, putting them in position to be able to make those plays where they know you're not going to be able to stop it.

Speaker 43 You know what it reminds me of? And

Speaker 43 chat, please forgive me. Young Bull was so good.
He played with the Atlanta Falcons. He wore number 84.
They put him at running, but he was a little bit more.

Speaker 1 Cordell Patterson.

Speaker 43 Boy, he reminded me of Cordell Patterson because Cordell Patterson was your elite Swiss Army knife that can do everything.

Speaker 43 He could do everything.

Speaker 43 You know what else is like that a little bit?

Speaker 43 Played with Joshua Cribs.

Speaker 43 Josh Cribs went to Florida fast as hell.

Speaker 1 Oh, Percy Harvey?

Speaker 43 Percy goddamn Harvard. Yeah, Percy was like that too.
They lying Percy up any goddamn well. Come and get it.
However, you want it.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 The Steelers, I commend the Steelers because the way they played today, they went on, and that defense was sensational. Yeah, they was on the defense.
They were stopping the run.

Speaker 1 They did an unbelievable job at stopping the run. And they got enough pressure on

Speaker 1 Detroit,

Speaker 1 but they had an opportunity to win the game, late late in the ball game, to get a PI call.

Speaker 1 Tesla just got to, you got to be smart, son. You got to be smart.
You can't run in there and duck your head because to the officials, it look like you're blocking.

Speaker 1 You got to look like you're going in there to catch a pass. If you do that, you win the ball game.
Yep.

Speaker 1 But they're going to miss the playoffs this year, Ocho.

Speaker 43 Yeah. I mean, listen, it happens.

Speaker 43 It happens. Something

Speaker 43 when you lose certain players, when you lose key players on your defense and all the pressures on your offense to do everything right,

Speaker 43 now Dan Campbell, he has to be a lot more aggressive than he wants to be. I mean, it's something that he's used to doing, but I don't want to put my defense back out there because I understand

Speaker 43 that I'm putting us in harm's way. We're not very good at stopping people because some of my better players, my key players and key positions are not available.

Speaker 1 Oh, Joe, but what overshadowed the Steelers' victory was DK Metcalf being involved in an altercation with a fan at Ford Fields during the second quarter.

Speaker 1 In an angle of the incident posted on Instagram, DK walked up to a fan, grabbed him by his shirt collar, pulled him closer, and then forcefully

Speaker 1 shoved him back. Now, I read something where the guy said he called him by his government name.

Speaker 43 Yeah, I could tell you.

Speaker 1 Go ahead.

Speaker 43 Yeah, I'm just, I got word.

Speaker 43 Obviously, I'm not condoning, you know, putting your hands on a fan or punching the fan, but he did call him a racial slurry. He called him the n-word and he did call his mom a.

Speaker 43 And I think with those words being exchanged and the fan saying that, I think that's where the

Speaker 43 action

Speaker 43 occurred where he threw,

Speaker 43 I think he threw a punch. I'm not sure if he connected or whatever, but he did call him the N-word and he called his mama mama.

Speaker 1 I guess C-word. Just say the C-word, Ocho.

Speaker 43 Oh, my bad. Oh, that.
Oh, that's bad.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's bad.

Speaker 1 It's terrible.

Speaker 43 Okay, my bad. Yeah, okay.
But yeah, he did that. So he called an N-word and the C-word.

Speaker 43 A bad combination, a bad combination.

Speaker 43 And it caused DK to react. I'm sure

Speaker 43 he would have to deal with some type of discipline. You know how the NFL is, no matter what, no matter what's said.
They want you to be able to control yourself in that situation. But I understand.

Speaker 43 I understand. I agree.

Speaker 1 Because that's not, I think the guy was giving his side of it. He said all he did was call him by his government name.

Speaker 1 And I'm like, I'm i'm sure a lot of people call him by he's heard his government name called before right i i said that's a strong overreaction for someone to call be call you a government name and then you react like that so i i didn't put a whole lot of credence into that no uh i'm sure somebody that was close by would have heard what he said it's going to come out It's going to come out.

Speaker 1 I'm sure those fans, because at the end of the day, yeah, hey, we all Detroit Lions fans, but more times than not,

Speaker 1 when you're wrong, fans will normally come come whether it's a visitor or not

Speaker 43 if fan gets out of line fans normally can't say no that's not what was said yeah you said this this and this yeah this this and this and matter of fact another reason why fans are going to come out especially detroit lions fans they're not going to allow one fan to make the rest of us look bad

Speaker 43 they're not going to allow that listen

Speaker 43 Whatever he said, we ain't got nothing to do with that. We don't feel like that.
Now, he might have been drunk out of his mind

Speaker 43 and said some things that he's probably going to come back and apologize for. But if I'm not mistaken, but you know, they got sound that can catch everything in that stadium.

Speaker 43 Everything, especially sitting that close to the sideline. Now, I'm sure it will come out.
It probably will.

Speaker 43 And I guarantee you, one thing about it, as a player, you're not going to lie about what somebody said.

Speaker 43 Because in order for somebody to catch your attention, for you to walk from the sideline all the way to the station.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 And that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 43 Hey, that ain't no government name, huh? You know goddamn well. But hold on.
You said what?

Speaker 43 Let me holler at you for a little minute, man. And there was another situation like that.

Speaker 43 Remember when Marcus Peters, somebody said something to Marcus Peters, and he walked back there and say, man, hold on, but what you say?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 43 Yeah, don't let this football game fool you, man.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 You're right.

Speaker 1 Look.

Speaker 1 I just hate, look, I get it. Your team cheer.

Speaker 1 You know, be ecstatic. But y'all got to chill with these names, man.

Speaker 43 Yeah.

Speaker 1 I mean, why would you,

Speaker 1 why go to do that, to call somebody a racial slur? Why do you call somebody that? Why would you do that?

Speaker 1 Why?

Speaker 1 I mean, to get a reaction, cheer. But

Speaker 1 you ain't got to call me no racial slur. You ain't got to do none of that.
Now, I want everybody that, you know,

Speaker 1 there's a lot of hate going on.

Speaker 43 Yeah.

Speaker 1 that's being disseminated.

Speaker 1 I'm going to need a couple of the guys that,

Speaker 1 you know, y'all know who y'all are to try to pick up what we said a month ago and try to run with it. I want y'all to cover this too.

Speaker 1 But this right here, man, oh, Joe, when I'm listening, I'm like, well, damn, for DK to go over there and it's like, well, he said, all I said was

Speaker 1 his government name. I'm like,

Speaker 1 that man, well, Ray crossed that just cause you said his government name no i mean you know you know good and well you know and the funny thing about it too

Speaker 43 is they pick up the sound

Speaker 43 those i forgot what those devices are called that they have on on the side they got boom mics yeah the boo the boom mics they pick up all that especially when you're sitting that close to the field they pick it up all that so if you sitting here talking about oh i just said this government name definitely the nfl is going to come out and correct you if you're lying.

Speaker 43 Right. Listen, DK is going to have to deal with his punishment regardless.

Speaker 1 He's going to deal with it. He's going to get fined or he's going to get suspended.

Speaker 1 Something's going to happen.

Speaker 1 And he understands that. But at that point in time, he's like, bro,

Speaker 1 you being wild disrespectful.

Speaker 43 Yes, sir.

Speaker 1 You being wild disrespectful. The NFL is not going to take kind of this, Ocho, because

Speaker 1 even though they say, look, what he said was wrong. Yeah.
But

Speaker 43 you can't touch him, Uncle. You can't touch him.

Speaker 43 You can't touch him. But

Speaker 43 that's one of those situations.

Speaker 43 That's one of those situations where fans are so comfortable being able to say what they want to say because they do they feel protected, you know, they're very comfortable.

Speaker 43 You know, they're sitting in the stands and I can be able to say what I want to, you know.

Speaker 43 And sometimes you can say certain things because you don't know how certain people are going to react to certain things that they hear.

Speaker 43 Everybody don't react the same, right?

Speaker 43 Everybody don't react the same. So depending on what you do say, I kind of understand it, but on the flip side of things, okay, you can't do that.
But I understand.

Speaker 1 Oh, Joe, Justin Herbert. Keep the Chargers rolling right along

Speaker 1 towards the playoff. They won 34 to 17 over the Cowboys.
Justin Herbert is getting more and more comfortable with that broken left hand, and that was heavily protected.

Speaker 1 The Chargers, fourth consecutive win, gave them a chance before week 17 to clinch their second postseason

Speaker 1 in two seasons under Jim Harbach. The Los Angeles would be the 11-4 would be in with a loss or a tie by Indy, which plays Monday night.
L.A.

Speaker 1 would have the tiebreaker over Denver with a season sweep by winning the regular season finale at Denver. Ocho,

Speaker 1 this is what Jerry Jones said.

Speaker 1 I'll admit that Cowboys management has played a big role in the 30-year Super Bowl drought, but seriously, I'm very disappointed that the way we're constructed and my role puts us here tonight.

Speaker 1 I'm tremendously disappointed.

Speaker 1 I'm really better when I'm getting my ass kicked than I am when having success. I would have been have made some decisions.
I've made work.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 1 we get one team that gets to the Super Bowl every year.

Speaker 1 Actually, you get two teams, only one wins.

Speaker 1 Two that gets there, one of those conference champions playoff teams. And I'm looking forward to next year getting back to that championship game, maybe beyond.

Speaker 1 And then I'll be right at the top of the list of how it's been since

Speaker 1 you've been to one. And that's how you do it, right at the top.
And

Speaker 1 this will all go away. Oh, Joe.
You see, the thing is, he gets to say all that, you know, I'm disappointed.

Speaker 1 But normally when people keep disappointing and keep disappointing, what happens, Ocho, they lose the job. They lose a job.

Speaker 43 Yeah, absolutely. Again, again, somebody has to say something, huh? I don't know who it can be.
Maybe it be Stephen Jones. Maybe it be,

Speaker 43 I'm not sure if he has a daughter, or maybe he has somebody that.

Speaker 1 Charlotte, he does have a daughter. He has two sons.
Jerry Jr., Stephen, and Charlotte.

Speaker 43 Okay, well, maybe Miss Charlotte can say something. Or maybe if he has a therapist, maybe if he has a counselor, somebody close to him has to say something.
You know, I don't know who it would be.

Speaker 43 I don't know if Jerry, I'm assuming Jerry has an ego. I'm sure Jerry has pride.

Speaker 43 But if you've been doing something the same way for so long and you expect things to be different if you continue to do it the same way,

Speaker 43 that's a sign.

Speaker 43 That's a sign of, damn, I forgot the word.

Speaker 1 Huh?

Speaker 43 Hold on. The word was

Speaker 43 insanity.

Speaker 43 Insanity. That's a sign.
That's a sign of insanity. I'm going to keep doing it the same way.
And at some point, it's going to work. That's the definition of insanity.

Speaker 1 It's to do the same thing over and over and hope for a different result.

Speaker 43 Bingo. Well, he's doing it the same way over and over.

Speaker 43 Jerry, sit back and relax.

Speaker 1 Kick your feet up.

Speaker 43 Smoke your cigar. Let Miss Charlotte and let Stephen.
take over the reins.

Speaker 43 Let him do it. Let him do it.
Just give it to him.

Speaker 43 Let's see how it goes. Huh? Let somebody else do it, baby.
Let Jerry, let somebody else ride the horse, man. We know it's your team.
We know you're the owner.

Speaker 43 You don't got to be front-sitting all the time. Come on, baby.

Speaker 43 You know what?

Speaker 43 I'm going to go to Dallas. I'm going to talk to Jerry myself.

Speaker 43 I'm going to talk to Jerry myself.

Speaker 43 I'm going to ask for a meeting with Jerry. Because the Cowboy fans deserve it.

Speaker 43 The players that play for the Cowboys, they deserve it. They don't need any more added pressure.
They don't need to hear no more Super Bowl talk at all.

Speaker 43 Jerry, take a back seat. Let Miss Charlotte,

Speaker 43 Mr. Stephen, do what they need to do defensively.
Huh? Let them do what they need to do defensively and building a quality team defensively. You need three good players.

Speaker 43 You need three good players. Matter of fact, actually, they need two.
Get you a middle backer.

Speaker 43 And get you somebody on the back end

Speaker 1 that can be a good idea. What about a pass rusher?

Speaker 43 Huh?

Speaker 1 What about a pass rusher?

Speaker 43 Okay, a pass rusher. Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay.
See,

Speaker 43 I'm thinking about Quentin Williams and Kenny Clark. My bad,

Speaker 1 hey, you need somebody on the edge.

Speaker 43 You need somebody on the edge. You're right.
You're right.

Speaker 1 You know who's the most sacked quarterback in the NFL?

Speaker 43 Who?

Speaker 1 Justin Herbert. Guess how many times he got taken down today?

Speaker 1 This is the first game this season that he didn't get sacked.

Speaker 43 Zero.

Speaker 1 This is the first game the year that he didn't get sacked. He's the most sacked quarterback in the NFL.
And the Cowboys couldn't take him down.

Speaker 43 That's crazy.

Speaker 43 And that says a lot. That's ten.

Speaker 1 Wait a second. But they got better.
Remember, he told his fans, and the fans says, I'm glad. Now, which guy, who has the most sacks on their team? Probably Javian Clowney or

Speaker 1 Ziggy.

Speaker 1 They got two first-round picks.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 43 now, listen, those two first-round picks, are are they going to be impact players? Are they going to come and make an impact right away?

Speaker 43 I mean, you know, no, first-round pick, hey, that's a toss-up, huh?

Speaker 43 Some pan out, some don't.

Speaker 1 So the lead sackers have five sacks

Speaker 1 and four sacks.

Speaker 1 Hey, that's a

Speaker 1 dumb for the year, and he had 12 and a half.

Speaker 43 That's crazy.

Speaker 43 Hey, just think of the difference

Speaker 43 in skill and quality of players.

Speaker 43 Miles Garrett has 21 and a half.

Speaker 43 And the most by a cowboy player is five.

Speaker 1 Miles Garrett got more sacks probably than the Hamle Cowboys whole team.

Speaker 1 Oh, but see, here's the thing. But see, you missed this part when he said he says, I'm looking forward to next year to getting back in that championship game and maybe beyond.
And then I'll be.

Speaker 1 Right at the top of the list of how it's been, how it's been since you've been there. I'll be.
not will be I'll be you see we missed that the first time on Joe I like

Speaker 43 always always has always will be about him and there lies the problem I'm glad you said that I'm glad you pointed it out I'm glad people can now see now you have a little bit more context now you have a better perspective on why things are going the way they are because you have someone who's running the team who's calling the shots he gives a green light and the red light on what goes and what doesn't go and he wants all the credit.

Speaker 1 He wants all the credit.

Speaker 1 I mean, I'll admit the Cowboys management has played. What you mean, Cowboys management? You, you, the Cowboys management, has played a big role in this 30-year Super Bowl drought.
You,

Speaker 1 you said you make every decision. Chad, am I lying? Cowboy fans, is that what Jerry said? Did Jerry say he makes every decision? The Bucks start with him.

Speaker 1 So I'll admit the Cowboys management has played a big role in this 30-year Super Bowl drought. But seriously, I'm very disappointed the way we're structured.
You structured it.

Speaker 1 Oh, Joe, how do I build a house? How do I design the house? I build a house, and they're not going to say, I don't like this.

Speaker 1 Bro, you hired the architect to draw this up. They built it to the specifications that was on the blueprint.
Yeah, and now you don't like it. You put it together, Jerry.

Speaker 1 Well, how are you disappointed with something you put together?

Speaker 1 I'm confused.

Speaker 43 Hey, hey, Jerry funny,

Speaker 43 Jerry funny at this point. And he be dead serious, though.

Speaker 43 Hey, he be dead serious.

Speaker 1 That's man.

Speaker 1 Ah, man.

Speaker 1 How you build, you build, you mad about something that you, you paid an architect, because that's normally how it works, Ocho. You design a home.
You pay somebody, architect, to draw up a blueprint.

Speaker 1 You want this many many square feet you want 33500 500 whatever the case may be draw it up this is what i like i need a i need a my you know my wife need a sitting area you know she wants to like to do her hair and makeup you know she wants one of those things one of those stations like she had a beauty salon you know all your put the the hot curve the curling out and all that stuff in the wall yeah she want all that yeah she want a walk-in closet that look like a chanel shop that you pull the rack that you don't you don't take the stuff you just pull it out just like you do at a salon right wants all that she want her side i'm gonna need my side right

Speaker 1 everything

Speaker 1 i want me a little i want me a little theater room hold by 10 people okay something like that i want an island i want you know i want signature appliances sub-zero uh a uh stove top you know other arrangements yeah

Speaker 1 okay a little fire pit on the black side so you know if i got people over we outside we talking and laughing damn

Speaker 1 oh my god oh you're i love what you've done with the place you know we having a good old time oh, Joe.

Speaker 1 Oh, Joe, we and you old Cambodia. You should come see Helen and I open that ticket.
We'd love to have you. You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 43 Right, yes, sir.

Speaker 1 And then I go in there like, man, this is some bullshit.

Speaker 1 Well, Mr. Sharp, this is what you commissioned.

Speaker 1 I can't blame them.

Speaker 1 All they did was build to the specifications that was on the blueprint. Jerry, don't say no management.

Speaker 1 They did exactly what you instructed them to do. Right.
So it's not management, it's you.

Speaker 43 Damn, that's crazy. Hey, I gotta say,

Speaker 1 hey, we get one team, we get to go to the Super Bowl. So I guess he's talking about the NFC.
Only one team gets to go from the NFC. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And two that gets to those Conference Championship playoff games. I'm looking forward to next year to get him back.
Now,

Speaker 1 if

Speaker 1 Clark Hunt said this,

Speaker 1 got no problem. Right.
If, if, if uh, uh, uh, Jeffrey Lurie said this, no problem. They don't make the, you know, hey, if Clark Hunt came out and said, look, there are some things that we need to do.

Speaker 1 I'm looking forward to getting back to the championship game. Okay.
Bro, when you ain't been to the championship game in a generation, you don't get to say you, bro. Stop it.
Kansas City can say that.

Speaker 1 If the, if the, uh, uh, uh,

Speaker 1 if the, no, if the uh, the Eagles, if they don't get back, because they've been recently

Speaker 43 twice at that. Mr.

Speaker 1 and Mr. Kraft.
They get to say that. You don't get to say that.
You have not been to a championship game in three decades. A whole generation.

Speaker 1 A whole generation.

Speaker 1 That's on you, Jerry.

Speaker 43 Damn. And you know, matter of fact, and speaking of making a splash, you know,

Speaker 43 knowing that Jerry likes to make splash, he likes to be in the headlines.

Speaker 43 He can make a big one in the offseason. You know,

Speaker 43 what's the the one thing?

Speaker 43 No, what's the one thing you said they need defensively? They need a what

Speaker 1 they need your edge, they need a rusher.

Speaker 43 Yeah, it's it's a it's a nice, it's a nice old rusher down there in Cleveland. I can that but sure look good with a star on his helmet.

Speaker 1 They ain't letting him go.

Speaker 43 You heard me? Hey, chat, what y'all think about that?

Speaker 1 Miles there might be a chance that you can go get uh uh uh Max Crosby, Miles Garrett to the Cowboys.

Speaker 43 What y'all think? No, yes, no.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah, absolutely. I mean, Miles Garrett makes anybody better.

Speaker 43 Right.

Speaker 1 But right now, he's your only selling thing that you have in Cleveland. Until you get a franchise quarterback, the only thing you can sell is Miles Garrett.

Speaker 43 Oh, shoot. Boy, that's crazy, bro.

Speaker 43 Hey, somebody said with what money?

Speaker 1 Oh, you have to. Look, they're going to do something with Dak.
Dak Dak today was 21 of 30, uh, 244, two touchdowns.

Speaker 1 Javante, they ran the ball. They didn't look, they fell behind.
Uh, uh, uh, pick had seven for 130 in the tub, CD was six for 51. Uh, Jake Ferguson was three for 19.

Speaker 1 They just, they just, they just could not get off the damn field. Yeah,

Speaker 1 they just could not get off the field. They go for no fourth down, and

Speaker 1 we're putting they were coming.

Speaker 1 Uh,

Speaker 1 they gave up 450. They were

Speaker 1 the Chargers were 7 of 11 on third down.

Speaker 1 They had 452 yards, 23 of 29. They had 152 yards rushing.

Speaker 1 They had 300 yards passing. They possessed the ball almost 10 more minutes.

Speaker 43 Hey,

Speaker 43 that goddamn George George Pickens, boy.

Speaker 43 Man,

Speaker 43 man,

Speaker 43 Dak threw that deep ball, right?

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 43 On the left sideline.

Speaker 43 And this motherfucker,

Speaker 43 this dude hit another gear to make sure he got to it.

Speaker 1 I just don't know how he catches the ball. I don't know how these guys catch the ball, let the ball drop down here to catch the gold ball, Ocho.

Speaker 43 Oh, yeah. Well, you like to catch a high?

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 1 Hell yeah.

Speaker 43 Yeah.

Speaker 43 Yeah,

Speaker 43 he late-handed. He late-handed.

Speaker 1 CeeDee Lamb has the record for the most receiving yards in Cowboys history. He had 1749.
Then Michael Irvin has the next three at 1603, 1523, and 1396.

Speaker 1 Deus has 1382. Right now, George Pickens has 1,342 yards.
T.O. is seventh on that list with 1,355 yards.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 George Pickens got a chance to move up into the top three.

Speaker 43 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 43 Absolutely.

Speaker 1 Who the Cowboys, who the Cowboys have? They got,

Speaker 1 I know they got the Giants. Don't they have the Giants once? And Commanders and Giants?

Speaker 1 Commanders and the Giants. Commanders at Giants.
And Commanders at Giants.

Speaker 1 They're on the road the next two.

Speaker 1 So I'm giving them 100 in both of those games.

Speaker 1 The question is,

Speaker 1 is Jerry going to play Dak?

Speaker 43 Yeah.

Speaker 43 Dak ain't going to want to sit down.

Speaker 43 Dak ain't going to want to sit down. Dak ain't listening to that.

Speaker 43 I done played the whole season, but no issues.

Speaker 43 I am not sitting down these last two games. I'm going to finish this season off strong.

Speaker 1 Right. I'm going to.
And he got a chance to lead the league in passing because where is he right now? Is he in front? Did he overtake Stafford again?

Speaker 1 Because

Speaker 1 150 yards behind, so he's probably in the league with like 4,300.

Speaker 1 Stafford's at 41, what?

Speaker 1 50?

Speaker 43 They must be good. They're going back.
They neck and they go neck and neck.

Speaker 43 They're going back and forth.

Speaker 1 Uh-oh, Stafford is four yards in front of him, right? So 4,179 to 4,175. That player.

Speaker 1 Hey, I led the the league in passing. I want that on my resume.

Speaker 43 Oh, yeah, absolutely. I need that.

Speaker 43 Hey, listen, every little bit counts.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 You don't think, oh, at the time, I mean, I'm saying, honestly, I don't remember at the time thinking about like,

Speaker 1 because they didn't really keep all these, like, all these stats now. Well, you know,

Speaker 1 Shannon, you got the most, you're the tight end with the most 150-yard receiving game. That ain't nobody tell that.
Because I had some times I had 140 and come out.

Speaker 1 I went and took my ass back in there to get try to get 150.

Speaker 43 Right, right, right, right, right.

Speaker 1 Or some games that, oh, I had like 90s. Yeah, I'm in the mid to high 90s.
Well, I might as well go back in there and catch me a five-yard route and get 100.

Speaker 43 100, yeah.

Speaker 1 But,

Speaker 1 but, oh, but in this situation, yeah, that player, um,

Speaker 1 the Rams got the 49ers

Speaker 1 and the Cardinals, right?

Speaker 1 Rams have Falcons and the Cardinals. Rams have Falcons and Cardinals? At Falcons.
At Falcons.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 He's going to light the Cardinals up.

Speaker 1 Falcons got a pretty good defense, especially at home. They can get out there now.

Speaker 1 People talk about

Speaker 1 that eating a dunk truck load of empty calories. I don't care.
Ain't nobody going to remember.

Speaker 1 Nobody's going to remember. Yeah, but thank you for Bryce Young threw two touchdowns.
The Panthers finally beat the Bucs 23-20 to take over first place in the NFC South.

Speaker 1 Carolina could wrap up the NFC South next Sunday with a win over Seattle and a Tampa loss to Miami.

Speaker 1 However, if the Bucs beat the Dolphins, Carolina would need to beat Tampa in their regular season finale to end the Bucs' four-year reign as division champs.

Speaker 1 Remember, Ocho, we said last week, we talked about

Speaker 1 Carolina, you let one slip away with New Orleans. Yeah, you had them.
You had them 17-7. Yeah.
And you let them come back and get you. And now it's been over.
They won the division.

Speaker 43 Yeah. Yeah.
But listen, we're going to win the division anyway.

Speaker 43 You remember what I said? I said we're going to win the division anyway.

Speaker 1 They're going to beat Seattle and Carolina.

Speaker 43 And we're going to win the division anyway. I want you to say something.
I want you to do something for me real quick. With that.
Chat.

Speaker 43 Chad, I want you to do something with me real quick you know i'm at like we in kindergarten i just want you to repeat after me like we like we in the prayer line you hear me yeah

Speaker 43 all right just say what i say keep pounding keep pounding

Speaker 43 that's all it is right there that's all you need to know that hey that's all you need to know you hear me i told y'all and i'm gonna tell you again i told you before the season started I told you what the Panthers was going to do.

Speaker 43 A lot of people laughed at me. He, he, ha ha.
chad don't know what he's talking about he's a fool he joked too much nah i told you okay now i'm not cleo

Speaker 43 i'm not a crystal ball i just understand

Speaker 43 what they had bryce young what he looked like after getting benched

Speaker 43 he's gonna be something special i understood that was gonna carry over you know

Speaker 1 It was going to carry over into the next season.

Speaker 1 Bryce Young was 21 of 32, 191, two touchdowns.

Speaker 1 They ran the ball 20 times for 101 yards.

Speaker 1 Tet McMillan, six catches of 73 yards and a touchdown.

Speaker 1 Jatavion Sanders had a touchdown,

Speaker 1 and they picked Baker off in the waning minutes. Baker was 18 of 26, 145, one touchdown, one interception.
Bucket Irvings had 19 carries for 71 yards. Baker had four for 49.

Speaker 1 Rasheed White had five for 45. So they ran the ball really well.
They ran the ball for five yards of carry, 33 carries, a buck 69. But the Carolina defense was exceptional today.

Speaker 1 They did an unbelievable job. Unbelievable job today.

Speaker 43 You know what the funny thing about it is, is when you look at the Panthers, the Panthers as a whole,

Speaker 43 I'm just going to talk about them offensively. Their defense is playing really good ball, but as a whole, offensively, goddamn Bryce Young,

Speaker 43 they're not even in their bag yet. They're not even using everybody at their disposal like they should.

Speaker 43 And they still pulling off these wins and upsetting teams, teams that most of the time, if you was a betting man, you would bet the other team is going to beat them because it's the Panthers.

Speaker 43 This ain't the same old Panthers no more, man. I'm telling you, listen to me now.
And it's going to be like this going forward, okay?

Speaker 43 As long as Bryce Young is at the helm and making the right decision with the ball and not putting the team in harm's way, making the play, though, the supporting cast, everybody plays so well off of each other.

Speaker 43 It's phenomenal to see. It's great to see.
And Panthers fans should be excited.

Speaker 43 I'm just happy. I'm just happy for them.

Speaker 1 And I'm a Panthers fan. It'll be an unbelievable turnaround, Ocho, for them to win the division.

Speaker 1 Give those fans in Carolina something

Speaker 1 to get excited about. They got a very promising future.

Speaker 1 Canalis has done a great job

Speaker 1 of making this team and getting them heading in the right direction.

Speaker 1 And I'm excited for Bryce Young.

Speaker 1 He's a little on the smallest side, though, Joe, but I'm afraid he ain't going to get much bigger than what he already is.

Speaker 43 And you know what? He's a little on the smaller side, and he doesn't take no punishment. He doesn't take no punishment.
He does everything the right way.

Speaker 43 Matter of fact, we need to have Bryce Young talk to Jackson Dart.

Speaker 1 Nah, Jackson Dart say y'all tried to take his competitive. Nah,

Speaker 1 don't worry about it. You just keep on doing what you're doing.

Speaker 1 And let me know how that worked out for you. I'm going to circle back with him in a couple of years.

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