Deebo & Joe - DK Metcalf SUSPENDED, SNF Reaction: 49ers DEMOLISH Colts, Ravens IN TROUBLE

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Join NFL Legends James "Deebo" Harrison and Joe Haden as they react to Pittsburgh Steelers WR DK Metcalf being suspended for two games after an altercation with a Detroit Lions fan, Monday Night Football where Brock Purdy and the San Francisco 49ers destroyed Phillip Rivers and the Indianapolis Colts, and much more from Week 16 of the 2025 NFL season!

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00:00 - 49ers beat Colts
19:35 - DK Metcalf Suspended
34:20 - John Harbaugh on the hot seat?
36:20 - Truth about playing NFL Christmas Games
39:25 - Jadeveon Clowney's Motivation to keep playing
46:44 - Deebo & Joe Defensive Player of the Week

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Welcome back to Debo and Joe. I'm your host, James Debo Harrison, and I'm here with my co-host, Joe Hayden.
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We got to get to 100,000 before the Super Bowl. How you doing today, Joe? I'm doing great, Brother Debo.
Great, great, great. Another day, another dollar.
another day to watch a good day of football.

Last night, another day to be on the show, holla at my boy. Yes, definitely, definitely.
I ain't going to lie, man. That was a good, terrible game.
You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah.

That was a good, terrible game. No, for sure.
Let's go ahead and hop into it, man. The 49ers jumped on the coach.
Neck. I mean, they really jumped on him late, but...

It was a lot of scoring back and forth, 48 to what, 27? Yes. A lot of times.
He's got the ball. Old man Rivers, man, he go deep on that first one.
That thing was like short on everything.

Yeah, he put his whole heart and soul into it, too. Yeah, that didn't.
I ain't gonna lie, it didn't look good. Next play, they ended up false starting.

I think Taylor got him a nice run about seven, finding the hole, being a little patient, making his way through there.

And then he hit him again on the short crossing route right there. I think they were manned up.
He ended up taking a 19.

Next play,

he fires one to downs. I think it was like 18.
That was a good pass, though. Yeah, no, for sure, for sure.

He gets some out there that look all right, and then he gets something that look like he ain't got it.

It's it's it's the longevity, it's how long he's gonna be able to do it. A lot of his passes, it looked like he was putting his heart and soul into it.

He can do more passes further than 10 yards than I expected. A thousand percent.
I told you, old man, Reuben was going to come through for you, boy.

I think DB made a nice play on that second down, though.

I think they got to third and eight and picked up, up, what was it, 14, but they had an illegal formation that pushed them back to third and 13.

And then he hits downs again. That boy twist and spin his way to a first down for 13.

And then second down, he hits Pierce for 20-yard touchdown, baby.

That was a, he also, that was a, he caught somebody offside. So it was a, you know what I'm saying? They had a free play.
Get it going.

The one thing he does have, though, Philip Brissers, anticipation.

He throws the ball you know i'm saying he didn't have that much power but he's leading the receivers he's able to put it in the right spots so not as much power not as much force but good ball yes no question 7-0

san francisco get out there and i think second down purdy purdy was on all night man

made a nice nice catch for 26.

i think the

the first uh first down they ended up getting uh

what was it, McCathery?

Bro, they walked the ball down the field easily. They scored damn near every, like at the beginning, like they walked the ball at possession.
The offense was flowing, moving, the motions.

Christian McCaffrey, Kittle, everybody. They had people off balance.
Colts couldn't stop them

at all. You know what I'm saying? Oh, it wasn't.
Yeah,

it got ridiculous, but

they kept a minute, man.

That was a little dump pass to McCaffrey. He went for six.
Then he ran the next one for nine. And I think second down is when Purdy hit Robinson for the 22-yard touchdown.

Them boys went down there in like six plays, three minutes,

a little over three minutes, and scored real fast. Yes.
So I'm looking, if you're the Colts and your defense didn't step up for you, you got old man Rivers.

They drove it down, they scored, and then they just made it look too easy, too fast. Like defense didn't even, nobody had a chance to breathe.
Then you kicked the ball off.

Y'all get the the ball, kick off return. Come on, do you unboat a rock? You let the man punch it out.
San Fran recovers that thing. I think, what is it on like the 25 something? Yes, bro.

Dude, first down, Purdy hits Kittle for like 12.

And then back-to-back runs. Like they were supposed to be able to be like, like stop the run.
Like they didn't, they didn't do a good job of stopping the run at all.

They were off balance that entire game. You didn't know what to do.
You didn't know what Purdy was going to do. You didn't know what the offense.
And they're motioning people all over the place.

You know what I'm saying?

That offense, they just look so in control. So like the Colts' defense had to, if you weren't going to stop them.

The two runs that McCaffrey did, man, they put him at first and goal at the

second down. McCaffrey finished it off with a two-yard reception from Purdy, 14-7.
I ain't going to lie, man. Like, the game is still close, bro.
No, it is. It is.

But look, it's only been three drives and they've they've made it look so easy that I'm like, unless you can change my view of making Brock Purdy and them look like they have to hesitate or like start.

But at the same point in time, their defense wasn't looking great. Hell, Indy came back out.
No, no, for sure. You're right.
First play. They fight.
Rivers the Downs.

Second one, I think it was Taylor. He got a little five to finish off for the first down.
Second down, a 10. He hit Ogletree for 11.
He was fighting for that, fighting for that 11.

That next second down, it's Pierce again again for 17.

Following the next second down, Rivers hits Downs for 12. And then they get a holding call, I think it was, and end up third and 16.

And Rivers hits that boy Pierce again for the 16-yard touchdown. His second is tied 14-14.
Dude, it's a fight. It's horrible defense going on.
No,

it's horrible defense. It's right now.
It's great, great offense, too, though. They're hitting it.
Rivers is throwing the ball where he needs to.

Taylor's getting a little bit of runs. You know what I'm saying? Downs is getting busy.
So offenses are making plays.

But in my eyes, I'm not long. Looking at it, I'm like, man, this is just amazing.
I'm impressed that Phillip Rivers and the offensive are being able to see much on the 49ers. I'm like, it doesn't,

it looks a little harder. You know what I'm saying? Like, because 49ers, I'm like, I think their defense is going to get a hold of something.

Yeah.

Yeah. They come back out, San Fran.
i think the first play mccaffrey hit like for 12 again

and then it was uh the second play was reversed to an incompletion and then they ended up being third and 10 and purdy scrambles for nine of it and then i seen the quarterback tush push for a first down

that was yeah that was i ain't think they would do that with him but birdie's he's not even going down the middle he's trying to find a hole he's going down the yeah four four six hole yeah outside mccaffrey immediately immediately after the first down is 18.

Like they're supposed to have a good like run defense. I think they were like, supposed to be like top five or something like that.
Dude, they did not show it. No.
They did not show it then, dude.

Second and nine, I think it was McCaffrey again. He breaked and shaked his way to a 10 for a first down.

Second down, 11-yard touchdown to kittle.

And he threw that thing all the way across his body. I just knew somebody would go grab that.
Blow, No, bro. It's a belief.
He believed. Yeah, he believed.
Yeah, but I'm trying to, listen, man.

Just, yeah, I don't know, man. 21-14, though.

It's good, man. I'm thinking Indy go come back out there and do what they got to do.
And the defense of San Francisco actually does something right.

They force a three and out by sacking Rivers on second down.

They got to punt the ball. San Francisco get the rock back, and it looked like Indy was going to come alive.

First down, they sacking, fumble, but the tight end catches the ball in the air and takes off with it, dude. Like,

luck is on your side, buddy. Yeah, man.
The bump time the ball bounces your way.

Yeah, third down, seven. I think he hit Kittle for 12.

And then the following, I think second and seven, Purdy was.

He hit more for like 20, 23, something like that.

And this, the following second down, I think Purdy hit kittle again for 17 like dude

you got him off balance and he's really moving motions people receive is getting open so it's it's flowing yeah the defense finally held up they were able to hold him hold him to a field goal i guess you know 24 24 to 14.

indie get the ball with just under two minutes left and they drive into field goal range with the help of the pi on the third down and i think they had one 14 14-yard completion.

But he missed that third down throw that could have got them to the tight end. Yeah,

it could have got them more than the field goal.

They go to kick the field goal. They make it.
It's 24 to 17.

First play out the box. I think Purdy comes out and he hits,

what was it?

Broad or board? What was the dude's name? 14. He hit him for 14.
and they end up trying a 64-yard field goal, dude. He barely missed that thing, it hit the crossbar, bro.

Like 24-17 at halftime. Yeah, if he had just got just a little more on that, dude, it could have bounced in.
Yeah.

San Francisco starts the third quarter in the first play out the rip.

Kittle,

15. Kittle was killing.
No.

Third and eight.

He hits Jennings for 21, followed by, I think it was 22 to Kittle.

They first and goal at the four.

Third down, Jennings scores. Three-yard pass from Purdy.
It's 31, 13. I'm really thinking it might be over with.

But somehow, they end up. getting down there.
I mean, that first down, unnecessary roughness really helped them to midfield, though, on Indy.

And then, I think it was second and nine. He ended up picking that up with uh Pittman for 14.
The review, they did it upheld, so they ended up stalling out,

settled for the field goal 31 to 20.

And dude, they

finally found a way to at least slow him down when San Francisco got the ball back. I mean, shit, McCaffrey still, first two plays, I think it was a seven-yard, nine-yard,

followed by, you know, Purdy to Jennings for a nice catch of 19.

And then Robinson, he said, let me get in on this to y'all. I ain't playing no run defense.
I know y'all supposed to be up there, but I can't tell. He get any 11.

Defense finally stands up long enough to hold him to a field goal, 34 to 20.

And then Indy comes out and they go 12 pace.

64 yard for the touchdown, dude.

It is now 34 to 27.

And I'm like, yo, the defense

just got to give you a chance. They got to stand up.
It's a whole more 10 minutes left, bro. They haven't.
They've stopped them one time this game. I mean, once or twice.

I'm not believing.

Dude, it wasn't even a stop, bro. Them boys ain't punt the ball, bro.
That's what I'm saying. Like, it was still a hold them.
It was a whole. I'm like, you got to stop them.
Like, it was a hold them.

San Fran get out there.

Purdy Jennings, 17. third and one mccaffrey takes off on him for 24.

oh next third down it's jennings again he he get 11. they first and goal at the eight

and third down purdy to mccaffrey nine yard touchdown it's 41 27. it's still about little under eight minutes left.
They could do something. It could be something like a nail butter, possibly.
No.

Andy gets out there the defense sacks rivers on the first down put them behind the chains they force a three and out they punt it

these dudes give it back to san fran san fran looked like they well they actually did they completed one first down and it was the second down throw he threw it just a little too high bounced off they done got the ball at the what 29 something like that

like yo this could be a nail biter at the end like it could be.

Rivers hits Pittman for nine, I think, followed by Pierce for 22.

And the next play,

interception. Six.
Or touchdown. Six.

Six. That ended all chances.
That's where the game ended. 48 to 27.

Dude,

San Francisco, Purdy killed them boys, dude.

25 of, he was 25 for 295, five tutties.

That was the bad part. And then McCaffrey, he had 21 rushing, 21 carries for 117 rushing, which

gave their, you know, their play action game more bite because the safeties was running up, leaving guys open. Kittle being one of those people who was benefiting from that.

Seven for 115 and a touchdown. You know, the offense

didn't, like, didn't punt the ball, dude. Yeah.
Like, bro. Their defense was, you know, wasn't there.

And even San Francisco's defense wasn't great, but they closed it out at the end with a 74-yard interception return for a touchdown on the fourth to basically put the game out of reach.

I mean, that's the only thing they really did, did well or did that was, you know, anything really productive. And then Andy's offense, dude, they did a good job.

Like, at least, you know, in the past game, you know, Rivers, 23, 277, two touchdowns. Yeah, I was looking crazy about that part.
I mean, about the, no, about the, yeah, prize picks. Taylor, yeah.

When I faded you, I should have

faded your boy. And then Taylor,

they just never got him going, dude. 16 carries, 46 yards.

I mean, I understood that San Fran had a good, you know, a good rush defense. I think it was like seven or eight, something like that.
And, you know, Andy's defense was, you know, supposed to be good.

I think they were supposed to be like somewhere around like five or six, but boy, you couldn't tell it last night. No boys could not stop nothing to save their life, bro.

And then you add the special teams, they fumbled and then give them a short field where they scored another easy touchdown. It was, you know, it was all over the place, man.
It was,

but, I mean, they got to have a little bit.

Well, it's over with. They ain't really got to go.
So they ain't, they ain't, they ain't got nowhere to go. I mean, the end of the day, you know, they, they missing some players.

They didn't have sauce out there. They playing with Philip Rivers, and he did so much better than I expected.
Very, very proud of him for going out there, throwing two touchdowns.

You know what I'm saying? Throwing for 200 and what, 77 yards. Oh, man, Rivers,

I wasn't expecting it. But some of his passes, like you said, he was, he had like the first play of the game.

he had to javelin throw it out there he couldn't get it there you know what i'm saying but in the in the end zone a couple of those posts that he threw it's on time it's still a 20 30 yard throw but he threw it a little he threw it on time he's smart you can't never get rid of like the the the brains that he has being able to run the offense being able to get them in the right calls so him doing that was a lot better than I expected.

I'm happy that he's healthy. He's able to get out of these games because I was worried about him legitimately if he was going to be able to maintain.
And they're protecting him.

He's not really taking too many sacks. He's getting the ball out quick.
He's smart. So more.
Do you think they hold on to him until

through next year to wait for Daniel to get back? Man,

I don't know, Debo. I don't know.

I don't see him as the long-term answer just because these 40, 50-yard passes look very, very difficult. You know what I'm saying? He's throwing it.
It's like he's about to throw his arm out.

Being able to get them in an offense and run it is so good. I'm happy to see it.
But next year, he's going to be 45. He's not getting any younger.
His bones aren't getting any stronger.

So I don't know about that, but he's definitely did better. And I'm happy for him.
I should have picked him in our prize picks. He went over 154, way over.
I should have looked at that. That's my bad.

With the San Francisco 49ers, wow. You know what I'm saying? That offense, Purdy, the way that they are just moving, motioning, you know what I'm saying? Like just flowing.

They can, but with Kittle being able to go across the middle, with Jennings being able to get open on these passes. Brock Purdy looks so comfortable.
And Christian McCaffrey is a dog.

You can hand it off to him continuously if you want to. You can screen it to him out of the backfield.
Check down for Purdy is to Christian McCaffrey was going to get make people miss.

It's going to get missing.

Their defense. At the beginning of the game, you know what I'm saying, gave up a couple of plays, but they were able to get a pick six, were able to get a lot more stops than the Colts were.

So the offense really, really impressed me. You know what I'm saying? Just the consistency of them being able to to get drives, the easiness.
It just looked easy.

It didn't look like they were stressing. You just get to the McCaffrey.
Okay, Kittle's going to be open. We're motioning people.
We're identifying what's going on. You know what I'm saying?

It just looked like a very simple, flowing offense. And Birdie was putting the ball where it needed to be, and the receivers were catching it.
So I was really impressed with the 49ers. The Colts side.

You know, they're not really going to be into the playoffs. I don't think Rivers is the long-term answer.
No, I'm just not fake. That's not even the thing.
No, no, for next year.

I'm just happy that he's getting out of here healthy because I was not anticipating him playing this well at all. But yeah, I'm gonna stop calling.
Can I call him old man Rivers?

Is that disrespectful to call him old man Rivers?

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Okay. No, no, for sure.

No, yeah, I feel it. I feel it, but

that'd be disrespectful.

See, that's what I'm saying. I'm not trying to disrespect him.

That'd be real disrespectful, Joe. And you ain't go with him.
I went with him. You can call him onk.
I call him aunt. Okay.
I call him on. Okay.
You call him on. Respectfully.
Yes, respectfully.

They done suspended DK for two games. Oh.

Yeah. You see,

this is what I was talking about, man. You can't

put yourself in that position. And when they start using that word of conduct detrimental, that carries a lot of weight in contractual situations.

So now, you know, it's possibly you're suspended for two games, which is a half a million.

On top of that, now it's a bunch of reports that are saying the suspension can trigger void language in the $45 million guarantee that it now puts that at risk.

And, you know, like, like I told DK, man, you can't let him trick us out of the bag.

So the fan just got everything he wanted in this altercation. And possibly, I mean, it's supposed to be like a lawsuit or he got a lawyer or whatever.
So you lost money.

You got to fight something, you know, that.

You wouldn't have had to fight. So the NFL, they obviously had to do what they had to do because they don't want this happening again.
They want to make sure this thing is on national TV.

Everyone is watching it. The league is like, Yo, we got to approach this in a manner that makes it to where future possibilities of this doesn't happen.

And you know, they go from there. But, you know,

when you look at the altercation, you know, and you see what happens

and then come to find out that DK

actually has a history with this same fan.

When they played there last year.

Seattle played at the Lions,

they

he reported this same fan.

So now you get

these things coming out where it's like, okay, well, the fan is saying he said this, DK is saying he said this.

But matter of fact, we got a video.

Can you play the video? I want you to look at this video, Joe, or listen.

Hey, DK, no son.

DK, no son.

He might have thrown him over real way.

so

in that video, what do you hear? You don't hear anything said, right?

So, here's the thing:

I'm, you know, I like, I like to do a little due diligence. I talk to people, I go here, I go there.
I do, I do, I do what I can do. You know what I'm saying?

So,

that video right there was originally posted on a guy's story,

and it was put onto Twitter by this Primo football,

Prem football, okay? And he gave credit to Kiefer underscore Kennedy, IG. Well, when you go look at it, it was a story.

And

it was

nothing on this dude's gram about lions, fan, anything, nothing like that, right? And the original thing said he doesn't like being called his government name.

Now, that was posted way before anything went out, and that was only on a story.

So,

with that being the case, I'd like to follow the breadcrumbs. He had an altercation with this guy last year.

What happened last year that made him have this guy

get thrown out? That he was bold enough to come back this year. This is history, and actually come all the way down

and

have an altercation with him, and just happen to catch it recorded

as he goes to get up to walk over there. The recorder just happens to glance over, watch him walk up over, and then catches everything else.
This, I don't know,

this seems like a little bit of a setup. Maybe these guys, whoever this Kiefer Kennedy is, maybe he's friends with the guy.

that actually got into the altercation with DK. And this is something that they may have been setting up since last year.

This is just a conspiracy theory i'm you know i'd spitball i i i follow i follow things so with with that being said why was he even let back in here after he was reported or dk tried to get him out last year they sound like they got a history going on here and dude is just waiting there recording

as a bystander that's a fan but i look your page you ain't got no fan stuff on there and now all of a sudden your page is private hmm

i don't know i'm just saying i you you know you you follow you follow a blood trail long enough you find a body i think if the nfl go deal with this they need to deal with this from the beginning to the end and see what everything is and make sure it is what it is because it sounds like it might be some ish in the game here

Yeah, I mean, if though, I hear you, Debo, but I'm more to the fact of

get him out of there. Like if he said he came last year and you tried to get him out of there and he didn't get out of there, you don't need to be just eliminate yourself from the position.

Try to get him out of there again. You know what I'm saying? For this game, it's a different game.
It's a dude who that's recording. You going over the joint, just me speaking out of all of that.

I hear you. Don't put yourself in that position.
No question. You know what I'm saying?

Like, like literally, we definitely need to be able to protect the players more, but you going over there, putting yourself in that position and grabbing the dude.

And even what he's saying, no words, he didn't touch you. You know what I'm saying? And you're in there to play a game and I hear he's following you doing all this stuff.

We need to be able to protect the players and get the guy out of there. But just in DK's position, you're in there playing against the Lions.
I hear you, all this dudes talking.

We're making $30 million this year. You know what I'm saying? To go out there and do a job.
I don't need you off of the bench. We sent, hey, security, go get this goofy ass man out of here, period.

You know what I'm saying? I have a job to do.

I'm going to go do this job because all of that walking over behind the bench that's a lot of space debo you know what i'm saying and then going up and reaching up and grabbing the man first you know what i'm saying oh no

so so that's that's why when i understand when everybody got it we got to protect the players the research everything figure out who this dude is why he wasn't out why he's still there the recording with the setup you walking over there though is putting yourself in that recording that setup this is what i'm trying to understand on that recording though you don't hear he called him by his government name but dude posted he called him by his government name no i i in fact listen what that means he actually posted that during the game what that means is he's not some innocent just fan that was sitting there because we can't hear him call dk by his government name we also can't hear what dk said he said So if that's the case, if he's just a fan that happened to record it and the dude walked away and went back up there, how did you find out what was supposedly said that ended up being exactly what the fans said was said

after the game?

So, we did. Look, this is what I'm saying.

People, they're going to be able to hear. Hey, they both got the last name, Kennedy.
I'm trying to figure it out.

Weird buddy, whoever was recording, whoever the dude that's probably, whoever he is, trying to set up DK Metcalf, we got to do the research on him. DK, if you don't

be trying to set him up, though, because people are weird. I'm just saying,

because people are weird. I don't understand what they're doing.

Because people try set up famous people all the time. People named Kennedy just happen to be not knowing each other and then post this.
I don't know, man. Dudes are weird.
Dudes are weird.

People are weird. So they got to like, at the end of the day, people are always trying to say famous people.
Listen to this, though. Celebrities.
Listen to this, though.

They were on the opposite side last year in Seattle when Seattle came.

On the visitor sideline. Whoever this person is needs to be and should be investigated.
That is 1,000% correct. I am listening.
They got cameras everywhere, man. And that's what I'm saying.

We need to know exactly. So with the people are saying, I don't even know why he wore the wig.
Was he trying to cover his face?

Maybe. I don't know.

You know, I get the digging.

All I'm trying to say is, though, at the end of the day,

if DK protect yourself,

not going over there and putting your hands on somebody and that joint is going to be washed. It's $555,000 that you put up, up, you know what I'm saying, in jeopardy.

You're guaranteed money of the $45 million. You don't, none of that is your fault.
You need to be out there playing football. This is because you're messing with this weirdo that's trying to buy.

It's the person that has actually messed with him and two different teams. I understand that, Debo, but now you

understand. Listen, Joe, let me talk here, buddy.
I feel you.

You talk for the first 15 different times that you go. Same city.
Okay. And you are the person that comes there.
And after you get it on video, you look over. Yeah, we got him.
Huh?

We, yeah.

Yeah.

You celebrate. You, you know who you celebrate.
Hey, the responsible thing to do, obviously, go to security and let them know that you got a fan right here that needs to be taken care of. Okay.

And get him out of there. Okay.
But also to me, you can't.

I mean, you can't really hear what the fans are saying. You hear this like background music.
I don't care what

he says. Occasionally, you may hear something, but for me,

but for me, like that motivated me. I want you to hear talk trash, say all this other stuff.

I never had anybody call me out my name, like that, and in that way, shape, or form. You know, you can say, I suck, I suck this, I do that, all the other stuff.

I need all that because your negative comments that just motivates me to want to go out there and smash your team more.

Like we said, though, before, if somebody says the words words to you any if they were to call somebody now it

the investigating part has to get done but you're not don't put yourself in the position to go over there and grab somebody and put hand that's it that we're saying the same thing the weird the weirdo though like who the people that are trying to get you caught up they're people debo that you know just are trying to wait for a car to come across the road jump in front of the car and get hit and set the people up just so they can you know i'm saying

to try to get money so booty can try to get deep to try to get dk Metcalf to punch him to sue him and try to get some money off of him. And I told him you can't do that.

You can't do that.

And I understand that.

Everything DK did was wrong. What I want to know is why is this fan who is named Ryan Kennedy? Okay.
That's involved in the issue.

Same last name as the guy who posted the video on his story saying DK don't like his government name. Okay.
That is Kiefer Kennedy. Are they related? What's going on?

Is this more than

what is the history here? It goes back to last year already. We know this.

They can check on Kiefer. DK can't do what he did.
NFL, make sure you check into what's going on because y'all need to protect the players just like the players need to protect themselves.

NFL PA, where you at?

Yep.

He's goal of pill. He's definitely

so too, for sure. For sure.
But they need to really look at this deeper than just what DK did and find out what led to this. Because this is a history between two individuals.

It's obviously something this dude done did enough of to make him. DK didn't react like that the first time

when he tried to get him out when he was in Seattle. But now,

dude said, I got to take it a step further. Maybe I'm just spitballing.

No, for sure. I don't know.
I hear you. Make sure you look at everything.
That's all I'm saying.

They need to investigate this Kiefer Kennedy because he could be definitely messing with him, trying to get Kiefer Kennedy, Brian Kennedy. Brian Kennedy, Kiefer Kennedy, Brian Kennedy

is the person that

is doing the thing, released all the books. Kiefer Kennedy is the person that put it on his story that happened to get picked up by

prime football and put on Premi Football and put on

X.

Come on now.

And now

your page is your

keeper. Your page is private now.

Saw your story before. You're like,

there was a bunch of people over there, Debo. He had nothing on his page that was

lying fans.

He was cutting down trees, bro. I'm just saying with the media and with everybody, all those cameras, you see the look.

It was a, it was a, it was a lady sitting there with her son that she tried to like move out of the way to see what was going on. I don't think that front row couple was involved.

That lady that was right there, we can go ask her. I didn't say it was the front row couple.
I'm saying

when he said that and saying that DK doesn't like his government name said, the lady that was sitting right there,

a source that wasn't involved at all. You hear what DK said that he said, then this dude says that he said what was said.
Then we can hear the surrounding crew. There was words being exchanged.

Who heard what they said? You know what I'm saying? It's a random source. You know what I'm saying? You can go collect the evidence of who did it.
Like you said, do the investigation.

Figure out who was all in that section. People know the tickets.
People know the seats. So DK, they can do all of that.
They can do all of that. They can do all of that stuff.

So they need to investigate that to make sure that this dude isn't, you know what I'm saying? That's for sure. I'm with you.
A thousand. Investigate this man.

If he's trying to really set up DK, do some weird stuff. We're like trying to hit a lift.
Good thing I screenshotted Kiefer Kennedy's thing because I'm an investigative reporter, baby. No, for sure.

When I need to, baby, I'm going to get down to the bottom. I love it.
I'm

not sure that too. Hey, man, John Harbaugh said he ain't worried about his job security.
He said, I tried to do my job, not try to keep my job. What do you think of that?

I kind of like that response, though.

He's basically just saying, as long as I do my job, I'll keep my job. I can't worry about not keeping my job.

And I think people who actually like worry, like you worry about it, I think you start focusing on what not to do to lose it instead of what you need to do to be successful.

Yep. Yep.
I think that's the correct answer. Cause if you start trying to switch stuff up and start panicking, that's not what got you there.
That's not the leader that you are.

That's not what, you know what I'm saying, made him the coach that he is today.

So doing what he's doing, attacking each day, going about trusting in his process is basically what he's saying has got me here and what I got to be focused on.

Because if I start switching up and acting funny, that's just not me. That's just not what I do.
And I start worrying about the wrong stuff.

My team will notice, you know, I'm saying that's not what it is. So I respect his answer.

It might not be what you want, but legitimately, if he's trying to be what he's like, he believes in what he believes in this process, that's the answer you should get. Yeah, for sure.

And then, you know, he had to hit him back with, you know, my focus has been the last 18 years here

and the last 41 years coaching is to try to do the best job I can today and fight hard as I can so the guys can have the best chance to be successful today

and after today i'm not thinking about

because it's not given to us to think about

so he's saying i got a resume what i look like wearing

That's basically what he's saying.

That's what you said. You say it without having to say it, man.

You say it without having to say it. Man, what is it? Pines Soul,

he said he's not happy about playing on Christmas. He said, I'm going to be rudely honest.
I'm not happy. We already had Thanksgiving.

We already play on Thanksgiving. And the fact that we have to play on Christmas and always is something

I wouldn't want to do.

I ain't got no problem with him saying it. I mean, wouldn't nobody want to play on a holiday or work on a holiday period.
It's a job. Yeah.

I don't think he's bitching or complaining. Somebody probably asked him a question about, you know,

what

he would prefer.

Like, do you like playing on Christmas Day? Right. And then, like, if you want to get, if you want to ask the question and you want them to give you an honest answer, you know what I'm saying?

Not like, oh, yeah, I'd be so happy to play in front of the whole world. No, they're watching.
I just look at you. I can play in front of the whole world the day before.

On Sunday at one o'clock. You know what I'm saying?

So if you want to be honest, if you want to ask the questions, I'm like, honestly, I would much rather wake up at Christmas and be able to be home and chill with the family. You know what I'm saying?

The normal stuff that everybody else does, but it's a job. Like you said, everybody wants to be off on Christmas.
If you ask me, like, would you want to work on Christmas or be off on Christmas?

The only way I'm going to tell you I would rather work on Christmas is if you told me, would you rather work on Christmas or had no job? Yeah, I'm working on Christmas.

that's the only way i'm picking christmas yes yes you feel me yes yes like i ain't i ain't got i ain't got zero nan not a issue with what he's saying here man

like honesty is the best policy and that's why i like when people just say oh do you have a problem what he's asking like this do you have a problem with people answering questions honestly you know what i'm saying right do you want him to give you the uh the PT one like this oh no for sure like no I love it I want to play every Christmas I want to play every Christmas.

Yeah. I never want to wake up at the house.
And I never wanted to play on Thanksgiving or Christmas. I want to watch.
I love that. I want to know.

Like, man, them boys out there hitting. They hit it, boy.
God, I love it.

We get a turkey leg after the game. They already hitting, boy.

Yeah.

The fried that fried that fried. Hell yeah.
Okay. Yeah.

Off the second game. Got that little narcolepsy at halftime.
Waking up. They still hitting.
They still hitting out there? Yep. Like this right right here, third quarter.
Hi, they're hitting.

Let me get another piece of pie. We get some more sweet potato pie.
Yes. Yeah.
Yeah. Get that on around here.
That is way better.

Yeah, man. I guess they asked Davian Clowney.

They asked him a question, and he said he was motivated to play.

What keeps him motivated to play, despite Dallas being out of it? He said,

what you mean motivated? They're paying me. That's enough motivation for me.
I like money. That's not just, that's not just that.
I represent more than the team.

I'm playing for myself, my family supporting me. I'm playing for everybody that's been with me from the beginning.
And I ain't never quitting on nothing. I ain't got, I ain't going to be hard.

It ain't, ain't going to be hard for me to get up and play in no game and do my job.

Yeah,

yo. Debo.
I love it. Debo, there there we go.
I love it. Come on.
Like, there's another, the same question that the same from the previous one.

Do you want us to answer realistically or do you want them to give you

a PT answer, a fake answer? You know what I'm saying? I think this stands for a lot of people. And that's when I say when I was with the Browns too, like, dude, like, are you motivated? Yes.
Yes.

I've been motivated my whole life to be the best cornerback in the world. You know what what I'm saying?

That's what motivates me every day to wake up, to go to practice, to watch film, to do the training, to do the treatment, to not go out. You know what I'm saying?

To not do the other things because I'm really trying to be the best that I can be. I look at this as winning a lottery every single year.
I played football for free my whole life. And now I'm nice.

I'm in the league. I'm at the best of the best.
I'm an elite. And that's what I'm going to do and be able to make a fortune playing it.
So I'm going to stack my chips.

I'm going to make my save my money. And my ionis in the sky don't lie.
The tape is the tape.

Everybody's going to watch this film and you're going to be telling me that just because we're not in the playoffs, you're going to slack and get beat and not hit and not tackle. No,

I'm coming to this game hype. I'm still studying.
I know what's going on because I can still go get picks. I can still go make plays.
I still have to perform to make sure that I'm here.

I continue to be the starting corner for this team. They know I'm not a liability.
You know what I'm saying? I'm a reason why we are going to win and not lose. I'm not the reason.

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You know what I'm saying? Like your job, that is what keeps you in the league for a long time. The great ones, you know, it's not, you don't, you're not up and down.

You're great every week because that's what you expect of yourself. Your coach don't got to tell you.
You know what I'm saying? So coaching him up, like, it's not that hard to get up.

No, you know, your great player is going to be ready for the game because he's great. He expects himself to be great.
And if he doesn't perform, he's madder than everybody.

So like, it's like, oh no, you're dropping the ball. I'm like, this, that dude's pissed because he expects himself to catch that ball.

He expects himself to catch the ball that he's not supposed to don't even, like, it might not be around. He's like, nah, right.
I'm nice. I can go get that.
Those are the players that you like this.

oh, yeah. Like, no, no, that's not my man.
No, no, no. I can guard anybody.
You know what I'm saying? So that answer is like the motivation. It's the money for sure.
It's my family.

It's the name of my back. It's because this is what I do.
It's because I get paid a lot because I'm that dude. You know what I'm saying? So this answer is what I was saying.

Like when you're playing with the Browns, sometimes you're losing. Like, Joe, were you still?

Yes. Yes.
I'm that dude. I'm all pro.
I'm Joe. Y'all are going to see me out there and I'm not the reason why we're losing.

you're gonna have to find another reason it's not gonna be pointing at me you know what i'm saying so you go up on it with it but like that joint make hits home for me because like playing on the teams that's been eliminated i would i would i feel you i feel you

yeah i don't i don't i don't think these reporters really understand or they just need to ask some some stupid questions or just do something like it's his job dude he wants to keep his job he wants to do his job well so that he can continue to have a job.

He's, he has it. He has a name that he represents, his family, everything else that go along with that.

And I think just because like they can't understand, why would you keep playing and you aren't even going to the playoffs because that's my job. That's what I do.
Yes.

You know, that's like a, you're, you're a writer or a journalist. And you know what? You're not in the runnings for the

pulitzer, for the Pulitzer. And now you stop writing you don't have no motivation that's that's stupid you still got to do your job

that's why you out here asking these goofy stupid questions trying to get a headline trying to get some type of clout so that people will look at you and say he is a good writer he comes up with good stories it's the same thing that motivates everybody in a job because this is a job to do well to keep their job

like

stop asking stupid questions. NFL, not for long.
You're not going to like somebody's coming to take the Davion Clowney's job. He's trying to show he can still be a professional player.
Yes.

Yes.

Like, dude, every year,

you're trying to do more

to get more out of your body. Trying to figure out what it is you need to do.
As you get older, you need to do more recovery to get rid of it. Your offseason, for me, has to be it.

It was my hardest thing to do. Like

when I did my offseason work, I was glad the offseason was done because now I got to get into the end. I got to get into season.

There's no way I can grind like that in season. Oh, no,

maintain.

I built up and

keep healthy and as, you know, healthy as possible by. making sure I'm doing the things to recover fast enough.
Cause the older you get, you know, Joe, the longer it takes to recover.

Man, you ain't lying.

You know, that, that, that normal oh i played on sunday i'm a little sore on monday i'm good tuesday oh no that's that turned into thursday damn that turned thursday yes damn thursday

you waiting on friday you waiting on friday uh you know uh walkthrough uh uh fly around practice to get back right fast friday is when i final fast i'm like yes

they don't understand that bro it's it's a it's a hard roll to hold out there

and i and in the good and when you like you said, Jadavion Clowney is getting answers from older vets. He knows he's in year 10 in the league.
Boy, these dudes can cut me tomorrow.

You know what I'm saying? There's younger rookies coming in, that undrafted class coming out of college. These dudes are hungry.
They just want a shot. They run through a wall for the 399.

Clowney's like, I know what's going on. I'm in these years where all of this tape matters.
Like they see me getting thrown out the club. Clown back in the league.
No question. No question.

That's simple, man. Like, y'all just just asking questions to ask questions because y'all ain't got nothing else to do, man.

Like, come up with something else, man. What motivates you to keep writing when you're writing is trash?

Yeah, yeah, let me go ahead and flip it around to you. You know what I'm saying, man? What motivates you to keep asking these dumbass questions?

You know,

get out of here. Hey, Joe, what's up, brother? Oh, you got defensive player of the week, bro.

What are you going with?

Oh, I got defensive player of of the week

who you got

you know me

i just go give it to the whole still defense you know me

you give it to the whole shout out nephew shout out nephew shout out nephew

I give it to Joey Porter Jr. also, but Cam Hayward.

And Cam Hayward running sideline to sideline. Sack.

Listen, man, I'm giving it to the whole defense, man. The whole D, everybody broke off a piece, man.
Everybody got him some.

Everybody got them some. Sawyer got him some.

Ty Smith got him. Hot Smith was out the joint hooping.
High Smith got him some.

Yeah.

Still his defense, respectfully. Still his defense, respectfully.
Still his defense. 100%.
They held him on the 80 yards rushing.

100%. Look here, Joe.
We got a super chat.

Uh-oh. Who we got, brother?

Creek Knox, 66288

donated $5

and said, I love the way Debo is investigating this.

This makes you think. Yes, it does.
Listen.

I'm trying to tell y'all something, man. Listen.

I come from a

come up from a from a big family. I'm the youngest of 14.

Okay.

So you got a lot of people that say this, say that,

say that.

You got to investigate to see who telling the truth

and who lying.

I done did this from the time I was knee-high to a grasshopper. Now I'm eight years removed from my nearest sibling.
Okay.

That means they had the game before me. Okay.
So I had to go ahead and discover how to figure out who telling me the real and who telling me the fake who trying to pull the wool over my eyes

trying to lift up my eyelids so i could see you had to tell the difference between friend or foe

y'all just don't know if i get on it if james get on the case

i'm gonna get to the bottom of it

I'm just trying to tell you. I'm going to get to the bottom of it.

Man, i love the detective we had one kennedy conspiracy a long time ago now

in the 60s now we got we got we we might have another one i don't know hey

2025 it's the new i don't know man i'm just you know

i like to you know

i like to theorize and then when my theories start

Once they get legs, you decide to go to come. You know how you follow the money.
You want to figure out what's going on with something. You follow the money.
This right here, it's the same thing.

For sure. Same thing.
We're following the money. You got to follow the money.
I'm just saying, who ran up to Kennedy and said, hey, man, what happened, man? All this other stuff.

But, like I said, man, hey, just do the investigation. They got to, Debo.

You know, we just can't take one person's word for it. Just don't take

there's a lot of people around there, man.

Just too many things.

You know?

DK, make sure you hit up the NFL PA, man. And so make sure they go ahead and dig into this thing, man.
Got to. They have to.
You can't do what you did. We already agreed to that.
Yes.

But it's some shit in the game that ain't adding up

to just a chance encounter.

Okay.

Mm-hmm.

I'm just saying, Joe. No, Debo, listen.
I am, we already said, because

we got it across. You said Debo can't go into the thing and put his hands because it's not helping his case.
But the investigation part of why are they following him?

Like, is this why they keep doing this, messing with DK Metcalf? We need to get on these people. Like, I think it might be it's a set of people all crazy.

People jump in front of cars to sue people and get some money. So that's legit.
Jamming on your brakes in front of trucks.

Yes, man. Don't put it in reverse sometimes.
Get caught on camera. For real.
Get caught on camera. They got the dash cams.
I'm looking. There's jumping it up.

Just reverse. Bam.
Getting out.

my neck my neck and my back

my back and my neck i'm saying oh my god

yeah out there there's weirdos hey man who who we who who who we got man for this for this christmas football man

man we got a bunch of back we got we got we got lions and then vikings who else it's two more ain't it We got Thursday night football, Lions and Vikings. And then it's two more.
It's one at one.

Cowboys at Commanders.

and

and broncos at chiefs that's christmas day lineup man

so we got the broncos beating the chiefs

because pass out for the year pass out pass out for the year yeah um

you say the lions are playing

the vikings lions vikings yeah the vikings though

Lions. They got it.

They're not going out like I don't know about that, bro. They're professionals.
I understand what you're saying,

but I kind of, I kind of like their defense better.

I like to fight this defense better. Okay,

I can see that.

I just like the Lions offense a lot more.

What did they do?

No, just the players. Just the players that they have.
They might not have done it last. They might not have did it last.
time to win. I mean,

they kind of ain't really did it like in the last few weeks, Joe. I'm just saying.

And then you go over here where they go be blowing that damn horn.

Are we going to see? Piping in noise and all that. I ain't say that.
They do.

They do. There's a saints.
I don't know. The saints was piping in noise.
I'm just saying.

I'm just saying. I know I done heard some noise that didn't sound like, you know, you get that.

I'm like, oh, man.

Nothing sounds like that.

I turned around, everybody's mouth closed looking at the game. Yep.
Ain't no way I'm supposed to be here. here.

Yep. They got laser beams in here.

You know who used to do that, though, real bad? Indy boy. Indy?

Yep. Set you off on that.

See, I don't remember Indy, though.

I think the ones did it on this one time for sure.

So we got one Thursday night football. That's a prime, right?

And then the other two on Netflix. Netflix.
You got it. What do you feel about that, Joe?

Netflix, you gotta buy Netflix now, Joe. But I got all the apps, okay.
I got all the apps for him, man. The Peacock.
I mean, I know, I know, I mean, you know, you're a DB, yeah, you know, you

had that paper, you know, you ain't, man, man, come on, you know,

I mean, I just, it is what it is.

I mean, I'm, I ain't never seen nobody that got two cars of the same car, just different colors, because he liked it that much, you know, Debo, that's what I'm trying to say.

I was forced that the Lord, the blessings to play the game, you know what I'm saying?

Play the game, and oh you thought oh you do that too i wasn't talking about you but go ahead tell me what you're talking about you got two cars the same color that are the same i was just different i was joking i was joking i was joking no no no no no no no no no no no no no no

no no no no no no no no no no no

i'm just saying i mean i don't know nobody that got two fandoms different colors i don't know no man not me You know, I don't know nobody that got two Maybacks different colors. I don't know.

I mean, not personally. Now, I didn't until I met somebody until I started doing a show with somebody.
No, sir.

I don't think I don't do one show with somebody. I don't think I only

until I got a group until I started doing a show called Devo and Joe.

Co-host name, Joe.

I'm just

on Sunday, Joe.

Who you like?

Who you like? I need my hat.

Joe.

You know what game is Sunday, right, Joe? Yeah, I know. Okay.
Yeah, I know. Hey, hey, the team I need.

I just want to know who you, who you, who you got.

This is the whole thing. For real, for real, honestly, now since it's to the nitty-gritty, well,

the Browns love, you know, my heart, honestly, like you said, when I'm retired, I'm going to be with them. But right now,

we don't need to win. My Stillers need this win more than the Browns.
So I want us to have both teams have fun. They could look good, not do terrible.

I want them to, you know what I'm saying, show progress. Shador, do good.
But they still got to take the L. They still got to lose by a little bit.

Just because. Hey, y'all, Jodo flipped over now.
No, no, no.

The mathematic elimination is not going to hurt. Yo, hey, yo, hold up.
Listen, listen, hold up, hold up. Let's do this.

Let's just play, you know, if was a fifth. Okay.

This is fantasy.

This is, you know, this is what it is.

Now, the game comes. It's now.

The winner goes to the playoffs. The loser is kicked out.
Who do you want to win, Joe? Oh, yeah. You already know that.
Now I'm going to have to draw. You already know.
Debo.

Joe. We're going to

draw. No, no, I might have to draw a line in the sand.
That's what I'm saying.

I'm about to say say something here

yeah

i'm going

with my cleveland browns you dirt ball i told y'all i'm going

to look that one

over there with snake i'm trying to tell you you can't

play with snakes they go bite you they go bite you and i knew i knew that boy was a snake i knew he was a snake you've

scorpion if all that Cleveland, y'all know what it is. I love the, I love the Steelers too, but you are, if we, if it was the flail, yeah.
Hey, man, get that helmet behind you off. Get that helmet.

Take it off, man. I don't want to see nothing black and gold no more, man.
Nope. Helmet right there.
Nope. Right there.
Nope. It's like right here.
Right there. It's right here.
Whichever one it is.

You see that orange helmet with that white stripe on?

Hey, look, right here. Right here.
Yes. Hey, Joe.
Joe. Joe, you, you.

Ooh. Hey.

No.

Get rid of the other one. You ain't no, you listen, bro.
You ain't no. Yeah,

see, man. Get rid of them over there, bro no man i still ain't got my j's neither i'm gonna get your j's man no hail to the nah nah hey

if y'all

listen i knew it oh debo chill out man don't do me like that i knew it i knew it i can't turn my back on you i can't turn my back on you i know i can't and i was thinking like you know maybe i could turn around no no no no no

trust me trust me i will always protect you bro i will never ever ever you ain't gonna protect me when I want my, when I want my stillers to win and we both in the battle for the, for the, for the spot.

That's what I'm telling you. You're gonna listen, Debo.
You go trip it. Listen, maybe we'll.
No, no, no, no, no. Listen, we ain't never get.

I'm a triple Browns player if that gets us the win.

See, you're gonna get a flag.

You're gonna get a flip. Don't lose it for him.
Don't lose it for him. I'm just saying.
I'm just saying. You ain't gonna do it.
You're gonna do whatever. You're gonna do whatever's necessary.
No.

I'm not gonna cheat. He just got him to do it.
No, cheat.

They're gonna have to do it the right way. They're going to have to do it the right way.
Bullspit. They're going to have to do it the right way.

You want to see? No, you don't. This hat, gone.
Bro.

It's a fallacy. I knew it.
I knew it. I knew it.
Nope. Nope.
Nope. Peter Brown's hat.

I was on the Steelers when they beat us, but I had COVID and

watched the game and was rooting for the ball. Oh, you got me ready to smoke and get in drink.

Damn, you had me. You had me fool.
Had me full. I knew it.
I knew it. I knew I shouldn't trust.

Hey,

listen, we want to thank y'all for joining us on this episode of Debo and Joe. I'm going to get out of here before I pop up.
Man, make sure y'all hit the like and subscribe.

Please, didn't I just tell you who I wanted to win this weekend? Who did I want to win this weekend? Because who cares?

When it comes down to an even up, you say you just want to have both teams have fun. You a lot.

You a lie.

Ah, Debo. He's a dirt ball.
He's a dirtball. He's a sheep and wolves, COVID.

He's a snake and dirt, dog, dog whatever it may be i'm just so flustered right now hey listen just a little bit back here on i don't even know if i'm gonna have a grocery on friday this has befuddled me no debo it has i'm destroying let me see what other joes i know

keep it deeper

hey man hey doing the joe man ain't doing the joe man you know man you my hey man you you you hey you my ace boom con where everything go go smooth, baby. You know what I'm saying?

But I know

I can't trust you. You got it.
See, you got it out of me. I got it out of me.
You got it out of me. Hey, he's speaking the truth now.
He's speaking the truth now. Now we get three gay.

Merry Christmas, everyone. Merry, merry Christmas.
We done found out what Joe really is. Oh, Lord, thank you.
I knew you was going to say something today.

I just didn't know it was going to be. It hurt me a little bit, but it showed me that I was on the right path.
Thank you, Lord. Thank you, Lord.
you know all right i love

it is what it is man

yes man y'all have a wonderful christmas man merry christmas we will see you guys here on friday joe yes yes yes everybody thank you have a merry christmas and we will see you on friday don't forget it and we out

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