Why Digital Detox is the New Success Hack | Troy Casey DSH #1260

Speaker 1 Got me some stogies and then,

Speaker 1 I don't know, he came back and I was just like, yeah, I'm good, bro. Can you give me a ride back to where I was going? Wow.
And he did.

Speaker 1 But I was seeing double and that was dangerous because if I would have passed out, poop shoot violated. And so, so those are the only two weirdo situations.
Nothing dangerous, just kind of weirdo.

Speaker 1 Well, make America healthy again, right? Yeah.

Speaker 1 let's go. I'm super excited.
I like his site. I saw it yesterday.
You can nominate people that you want to join the positions. Did you see that?

Speaker 1 Yes, my team sent it to me, and I think they entered me in. Oh, nice.
I communicated with him when I was in L.A.

Speaker 1 I saw him at Gold's Gym, my old stomping grounds, and I offered to do a podcast, and he connected me with his team. And so I have his phone number.
I texted him yesterday. Nice.
And,

Speaker 1 you know, someone like that's super freak show busy. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I've been on the waiting list too. If it makes you feel better.
Yeah. So, but I did say, hey, look, I'll work for the government for free.
I'm here to get America healthy again.

Speaker 1 I'm here to get the world healthy. Nice.
And so

Speaker 1 however I can get in there, I'm happy. Well, that's how government jobs used to be, free or minimal pay.
And now they're all the richest people, stock traders and everything.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it breeds laziness. Well, I think they just get offers, you know, when the money's on the table, it's kind of hard to turn down, depending on your ethics.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I watched that podcast you did with that political guy.
I thought that was really interesting.

Speaker 1 The Pac-Man? Yeah, the one I talked to you about.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 I have on both sides. Some people don't like that.
I think it's interesting, you know? Yeah, I liked the way you stayed open to the whole conversation.

Speaker 1 And I don't claim to know everything myself, but I do believe that things can be done in a better way and

Speaker 1 a more healthy way. I mean, from that point of view, it wasn't even close.
Like the other side did not talk about health in that regard. So

Speaker 1 I can definitely understand why people would vote Trump for health reasons.

Speaker 1 Yeah, if somebody's claiming it, I mean, I've been talking about this for over 20 years on social media, talking about GMOs and glyphosate. And now the mainstream is talking about it.

Speaker 1 And within a week of the election, he's talking about banning fluoride, chemtrails,

Speaker 1 making raw milk legal again.

Speaker 1 And these were all conspiracies when you were talking about it. Total conspiracy.
I was marginalized as you don't know what you're talking about. Are you a doctor?

Speaker 1 Pasteurized milk is the greatest invention of mankind. Yeah.
Okay. So you only drink raw milk right now?

Speaker 1 I drink raw milk. Yes.
I drink raw milk. I have a little bit of pasteurized dairy from like Strauss ice cream.
A2A2 though, right? Correct. They have Jersey cows and it's all regenerative.

Speaker 1 good farms, super high quality, and you can taste it in the quality. So I'll do a little bit of Strauss, but I've got a good line on raw milk right now here

Speaker 1 in Arizona. Currently, I'm on day nine of a liver flush.
So talking about food is making me hungry. Yeah.
You're on day nine of a fast right now? I'm on day nine. Wow.
And

Speaker 1 I feel fantastic. I feel very light.
And I've got 35 years doing this. Damn.
And so I do two to three times a year. I'll do a colon cleanse, liver flush, parasite flush.
juice fast.

Speaker 1 Sometimes I do dry fasting. Wow.

Speaker 1 They say nine days on juice is like three days on water or one day on dry fast. Because nine days is pretty intense.
I'm on a juice fast right now. Juice.

Speaker 1 So I have pre-digested amino acids to stave off any kind of muscle wasting or blood sugar imbalances.

Speaker 1 And so

Speaker 1 they've got 37 clinical trials on them. They're super clean, just pure amino acids.
So they help me maintain my lean muscle. Nice.
And I don't waste anything.

Speaker 1 And so then I'm on wheatgrass and spirulina, those types of greens. And

Speaker 1 I've had three apples in the last nine days. And sometimes you just want that little oral fixation component.

Speaker 1 And then I'm doing a lot of herbal teas that are targeting the liver and the bile ducts, gallbladder specifically. And

Speaker 1 I'm finishing up with some parasite herbs. And I did

Speaker 1 five days of charcoal, clay, and marshmallow root for my intestines

Speaker 1 to soak up the 36 feet of intestines that we have. And

Speaker 1 typically I start feeling really good on like day three or four. And this time that took about like day eight.
I started to feel dynamite.

Speaker 1 Once you start feeling that way, it's like, I feel like I can go forever. So I think I'm going to do 15 days this time.
We'll see how it goes. And then I will re-enter

Speaker 1 food with salads and I'll do raw milk and honey that has a lot of enzymes in it. So

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Speaker 1 Assuming you're losing a ton of weight while you're doing this too, right?

Speaker 1 Actually,

Speaker 1 you know, I'm writing, right at normalizing. When I did my book, Ripped at 50, I went down to about 162, and that was about 10 to 15 pounds lighter than I typically have been over the years.
And

Speaker 1 approaching 60, I decided to put on more muscle. And so in the last two years, I've gained 25 pounds.
So I'm floating around 184 right now. I just weighed myself this morning and I'm 179.
So

Speaker 1 you lost five? Only five pounds. And, you know, like I said, the fast isn't over yet.
But for me, it's obviously not about weight loss.

Speaker 1 It's getting rid of inflammation and really just taking out the garbage, cleaning out the junk. I've been looking into doing a fast actually because I got a pernuvo scan done.

Speaker 1 Are you familiar with them?

Speaker 1 No. It's like a full body MRI.
Okay, great. But they're like preventative.
So they see if cancer's coming and all this stuff. Yeah.
So I had a couple cysts. So I was like, damn.
Really? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Might need a fast. How old are you? 27.
Oh, brother. I will definitely take you under my wing with me and my whole team.

Speaker 1 We'll start taking you through because you traditionally fasting was done on the change of the seasons.

Speaker 1 When we ran out of food in the winter, you would just have whatever you gathered in the cave or whatever. And then what you could get.

Speaker 1 the next hunt or like the Hunzas, they've been doing this forever. And towards the end of the winter, they do about 30 days fast.
Holy crap. But they'll have nutrients.

Speaker 1 They'll have roots, barks, berries, stuff that they've

Speaker 1 stuff that they've gathered.

Speaker 1 And then they'll just wait until the springtime and they can go back out hunting and stuff. And so this was built into our biology.
And so,

Speaker 1 but I'll take you through a fast and you'll feel dynamite. Yeah.
And it's no skin off your nose. It's all organic.
And

Speaker 1 the technology that I work with has been around forever. Nice.
Yeah. I've never done one, so I'm excited.
Yeah. And wheatgrass and greens are natural detoxifiers.

Speaker 1 So you're big on the vegetarian stuff?

Speaker 1 Well, I'm into pre-digested nutrition because I had challenges with my nutrition when I was younger.

Speaker 1 IBS or digestive issues. That's how I got into health 35 years ago.
I was a Versace model. I was modeling in Milan

Speaker 1 and I was bloating. This is when I first started my career and all the homies were going to Vogue that day.
And the agent was like, honey, you're not going, you know, you're fat. And I'm like, what?

Speaker 1 I was like, the same guy from yesterday, you know, but I'd go out and drink pizza and beer and then my body would just bloat sometimes. Not quickly, huh? I didn't know anything about nutrition.

Speaker 1 And, you know, years later, I realized that I'm gluten intolerant and

Speaker 1 just really how to clean up my diet. And so that was in 1989.
And so

Speaker 1 from there, I started learning about clean food. It's really about clean food.
It's not necessarily what you eat, it's the quality of what you eat.

Speaker 1 And so I know that there's a lot of people out there that are, you know, hey, I'm vegan, that's the best. Hey, I'm carnivore.

Speaker 1 You know, you want to stay away from lectins, phytic acids, and oxalates, right? The plant enzymes and the plant proteins right now, they're vilified in the carnivores.

Speaker 1 and so when you have a healthy body you can digest anything and i got really into juicing which

Speaker 1 a juicer is going to masticate everything and it's pre-digested plant material so you got energy from the sun converted through photosynthesis into chlorophyll and so this is bioavailable plant blood and it's a molecular match to your hemoglobin So plant blood and your blood has a perfect molecular match, but there is an electron transfer, iron in your blood and magnesium in the greens.

Speaker 1 That's why greens are good. And if you look at any of the soil health right now, we're depleted in magnesium.
And so you want to flood the body with greens and vegetation however you can.

Speaker 1 Obviously, there are plant proteins like lectins and oxalates that you want to navigate beyond. And that's why we've cooked foods over the years.

Speaker 1 And so, but when you juice them, you take out all the digestion process. So it goes right into the tissues.
And so I got into juicing 35 years ago.

Speaker 1 And when I would drink a fresh squeeze juice, I would feel energized and neutrified. And

Speaker 1 so juicing works for me. Everyone's different.

Speaker 1 And this is fresh squeeze juice. You put it in the juicer and you drink it.

Speaker 1 Anything over 15 minutes,

Speaker 1 the enzymes start dying down. Wow, that quick.
Oh, yeah. Because you see it in like whole foods, like the juice.
So that's already dead by then, right?

Speaker 1 Air one has it as well, like even greens and glass.

Speaker 1 I can taste when it sours a fresh squeeze green juice tastes completely different from something in glass and they'll tell you it's pressed with a norwalk press and it's in glass and it's still fresh for 72 hours

Speaker 1 it's already dead by then i'm i'm i'm a juice snob and so i want my fresh squeezed juice or i have dehydrated wheatgrass spirulina things that you can just add water to it that still have the enzymes intact and that's fine as well wheatgrass and spirulina, I've seen those at Whole Foods.

Speaker 1 Well, I brought some. Oh, yeah.
I have a superfood. Can you just eat it or do you have to do something to it? Pour water on it.
Oh, that's it? It's like a powder? Yep. Okay.
Chuck it down the neck.

Speaker 1 I'll start drinking that. And as long as your stomach, because let's face it, the environment's been trashed.
RFK has that whole research from the EPA.

Speaker 1 There's a line in the sand from 1989 between the poison injections for children that went up to about 72 after the 1986 Act,

Speaker 1 as well as glyphosate being put on the market. And so environmentally, chronic disease has exponentiated since 1989.
And so,

Speaker 1 you know, that's a big part of what he's fighting on is chronic disease and childhood, childhood obesity, childhood disease. And lo and behold, all the food coloring.
Food Babe is

Speaker 1 protesting. Kellogg's resting.

Speaker 1 Callie Means, Casey Means.

Speaker 1 So if they removed tomorrow these 72 mandatory injections for kids, what would happen to everyone?

Speaker 1 Well,

Speaker 1 I can only speak from example from myself. I have two beautiful, healthy, vibrant, intelligent, coherent, present children that aren't fed food coloring and they're not

Speaker 1 having blue light in their eyes by the devices and craned necks and poor postural alignment because they're scrolling on devices.

Speaker 1 I have living proof of

Speaker 1 my laboratory

Speaker 1 experiment with my children. And so my son's not circumcised.
He was born in water.

Speaker 1 My children don't have poison injected into them and they're not on these devices consistently. And they're extremely strong, athletic.

Speaker 1 And what do we see in the world? We've got 70% of the American people that are obese or overweight right now. And

Speaker 1 childhood chronic disease is on the rise. And we don't have any of that.
And that was how I made the decision when I had children.

Speaker 1 People were like, Are you going to inject poison or not inject poison? And so I read the literature and I heard both sides of the argument. And

Speaker 1 the side for it

Speaker 1 was such such a powerful argument. But then I saw all these autistic children and I saw all these challenges and these problems.

Speaker 1 And then I prayed and

Speaker 1 I said, you know what? I'm going to trust God.

Speaker 1 And I just left it at that. I said, you know, 200 years ago, before the Industrial Revolution or before the Rockefeller medicine set in, 100, 150 years ago, we didn't have these things.

Speaker 1 And so,

Speaker 1 you know, and allow nature to, you know, take its course. And death is a part of life.
It's like, do you accept life? Do you accept death? I accept death, right? I'm not afraid of death, you know.

Speaker 1 And so,

Speaker 1 of course, I don't want my children to die, but if that's what happens, then, or if they have to deal with something, but I'm not going to inject something that I look at the ingredient list and say,

Speaker 1 I don't want this for myself.

Speaker 1 So, why am I going to put it in this

Speaker 1 infant, this pure and precious baby? That was my logic and reason. And from what I've seen, the issue is the heavy metals and the plastics in the injections, right? Correct.

Speaker 1 So they're doing that 72 times throughout the course of 18 years. Correct.
Not to mention monkey viruses and

Speaker 1 porcine, no, monkey brains, porcine viruses, and bovine viruses. Snake venom, too, I've heard.
Oh, yeah, there you go. Snake venom.

Speaker 1 You want that in your little kid?

Speaker 1 And the nanotech.

Speaker 1 oh nano bots is a whole nother podcast so and dr edward group is finding he's been on the show blue hydrocells in people's blood and now synthetic red blood cells so what so look i'm good with intelligent design with god's creation and i'm gonna align with god and nature as much as possible that's my whole philosophy That's what I do with my clients.

Speaker 1 I guide them back to nature as much as possible. The sunlight, grounding to the magnetism in the earth, natural food, pure water, moving the body, sleeping with the celestial realms.

Speaker 1 When the sun and the sun comes up, get up. Circadian rhythm.
When the moon comes up, it's time to go to bed. So you go to bed early then.
Well, I mean,

Speaker 1 I am a modern human being. So

Speaker 1 my bedtime keeps getting earlier and earlier. And I like to use the blue blockers as well.

Speaker 1 These have helped me with my sleep, especially in the gym, especially I'm here in the Valley of the Sun four months out of the year. It's very hot.

Speaker 1 So I go to the gym every day and the fluorescent lights in there are just extremely powerful. So I started wearing these

Speaker 1 in the gym. And if I'm going to be on the computer often, I don't sit behind the computer all day.
I pretty much keep moving. I operate from the phone for the most part.

Speaker 1 And I try and get on it and get off it, ghost and post. And I also talk to my people as well.
So I'm in the comment section. That's my work, but I'm not consuming a ton of data,

Speaker 1 even though I'm a human being and I can get caught up in the dopamine scroll

Speaker 1 myself. Well, I got to be careful with that because I'm on my phone eight hours a day, but part of, yeah, doom scrolling, part of the MRI results was they analyzed your spine health.

Speaker 1 So I had scoliosis. I don't know if it's from that, but

Speaker 1 I had arthritis too, and I'm only 27. So I had arthritis in my neck and my lower back.
Yeah, so I'll give you some corrective exercises for that.

Speaker 1 We'll light up your posterior chain, some prone cobras and a couple other things. It wouldn't be a bad idea for you to get into some I anger yoga and something systematic as a class.

Speaker 1 I could teach you the exercises and we can find a guy for you in Vegas as well. But you want to study corrective exercise and really just light up the back of your body so that you're upright.

Speaker 1 I stay on my children all the time. I give them a crack chop to the back and

Speaker 1 I check them on their posture. And so they don't like hearing it, dad, dad, but they get to hear it because

Speaker 1 they get to have good posture. So we'll, we'll sort you out.
I'll help you as much as I can. Yeah, I feel like a lot of people neglect their back and neck health.

Speaker 1 Absolutely. And let's face it, let's face it.
Right now, what we're dealing with because of these devices are orthopedic calamities. Like this literally is aging.
This is depression. Right.

Speaker 1 So if you're like this, and I catch kids in the gym all the time, young athlete kids,

Speaker 1 and they'll be changing and then boom, they get stuck in the death scroll. And they'll be like, and I'm like, guys, guys, guys, you think that posture is good for your playing basketball? You know?

Speaker 1 And so I'm that guy, you know,

Speaker 1 forgive me, guys, but

Speaker 1 I'm here to help people and get them healthy. So I'll care, I'll do a care frontation on you.
And so, but yeah, this is horrible for aging and

Speaker 1 the posture and really mood as well. It brings everything down.

Speaker 1 And so you want to straighten it back up, bring your chin up, stretch the front of your neck. I'm really into all of this stuff, the facial yoga and

Speaker 1 I just want to be alive until the day I'm dying. I just want to be alive until the day I'm dead.

Speaker 1 Yeah, your health span versus lifespan, right? Yeah.

Speaker 1 I want to live, baby. Some people die 20 years before they actually die.
Yeah, they become complacent.

Speaker 1 You know, I'm glad all the hiccups in business that I've had as well, because it just makes me work harder.

Speaker 1 God God forbid, I get complacent or you make a ton of money and then you get sedentary. And so that's a trap as well.
And so I like the stimulation. I like all the stimulation.

Speaker 1 That same thing, your curse is your gift. It's the same thing with my health.
My problems with my digestion, I'm grateful for.

Speaker 1 I had a interesting upbringing and I've been on my own since I was 14. And, you know, I cried plenty of tears of that.
And, you know, I'm sure I had some trauma through it.

Speaker 1 But I am so grateful for that experience because it has made me the human being that i am right

Speaker 1 yeah i i used to have victim mentality going through trauma growing up but now i'm so grateful for it yeah it makes you who you are 100 i think if everything was spoon-fed to us growing up we wouldn't be where we're at correct and now with my children i like to uh You know, I pretty much give them whatever they want, especially if they want ballet classes.

Speaker 1 My son's playing hockey in Montreal right now.

Speaker 1 But I'm going to make them work for it. I'm going to make it hard on them.
I'm going to make it psychologically tough.

Speaker 1 They know they can call me and contact me for money, but I'm going to make it difficult.

Speaker 1 And so

Speaker 1 they choose the dad conversations wisely, which is where I want. I want them on their toes.
And I told them that

Speaker 1 they're intelligent, they are athletic,

Speaker 1 they're very good-looking children. They have a huge responsibility in the world.
Those cannot, those talents, they're not going to rest on their laurels with those talents. They need to go out there.

Speaker 1 They're responsible for the world.

Speaker 1 They're responsible for the world that they live in. And so

Speaker 1 I make things hard on them.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I mean, you left at 14.
That is super young, man.

Speaker 1 I started hitchhiking when I was 12. Wow.

Speaker 1 The second gas crisis in the United States was 1979 and gas got more expensive. How much was it?

Speaker 1 I can't remember because I think we went over a dollar in the 80s. This was 1979.
The first one was in 73 and we had gas lines and stuff. And so

Speaker 1 1979,

Speaker 1 my dad told me that my mom's not going to give me any more rides. We lived in the country.
And so my friends lived about six miles away from me. And he said, get your butt out there and hitchhike.

Speaker 1 He's like, he was a hippie and a beatnik and he would hitchhike from the east coast to the west coast and hate Ashbury. And

Speaker 1 he told me, get out there and just hitchhike. At 12.

Speaker 1 At 12. Wow.
And so, and that was some of the best adventures of my life.

Speaker 1 And I've always been, you know,

Speaker 1 I've always been a go-getter. When I moved to California, I wanted to go to LA and San Diego and I didn't have a ride.
I just stuck my thumb out there and I got a ride. Damn.

Speaker 1 That's a lost art these days, hitchhiking. Well, it is because a little too many Ted Bundies,

Speaker 1 serial killers. I watched that documentary, actually.
Yeah, so he kind of killed it for the hitchhiking.

Speaker 1 But I had great experiences of hitchhiking, and I would go, I lived in Marin County in Novato, about 30 miles north of San Francisco, and I would hitchhike into the city and I would hitchhike all throughout.

Speaker 1 Marin County and nothing dangerous ever happened? Nope. Wow.
When I was 12 or 13, I lived in Connecticut on a lake and my friends lived about six miles away. And this guy picked me up and

Speaker 1 he had

Speaker 1 playing cards and it had nude women in it.

Speaker 1 And I don't know if he wanted to see me get hard or something like that.

Speaker 1 I was just like,

Speaker 1 he showed them to me and I was like, okay, what is this? And I was like, yeah, I'm cool. And when I got in the car,

Speaker 1 he said something like, sit up straight, put on your seatbelt. Like, he started bossing me around.
And I was like, okay.

Speaker 1 You know, and you get around. I've been hitchhiking for a long time.
And I was like,

Speaker 1 you know, he started acting like, yes, sir. And I was like, this is weird.
And I was just like, all right, how can I get out of here? And I probably was just like the next stoplight.

Speaker 1 I'm like, I'm good. All right, peace.
Smart move. And so I was out of the door.
And then Father Maguire, who worked at the Marlborough Catholic Church, he picked me up.

Speaker 1 And it it was Father Maguire and I thought, ah, this is no big deal. My friend went to his church and

Speaker 1 he, this was late one snowy night,

Speaker 1 dark. It wasn't that late.
It was probably like eight o'clock, so it was dark.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 he started asking me questions, you know, whether he was a pedophile or homosexual or whatever he was, but he started asking me questions. You like alcohol? You like this?

Speaker 1 You're like, what kind of alcohol do you like?

Speaker 1 And I was probably 14 or so. And

Speaker 1 I was like, well, I like this and I like that. And he brought me back to his house and he started pouring me drinks.
And I was like,

Speaker 1 and I was like, holy shit. And I started, I was fucked up.
And so

Speaker 1 he, I smoked cigarettes at the time and he didn't have any cigarettes. So he offered to go to the store.

Speaker 1 to get some cigarettes. And

Speaker 1 he started asking me homosexual questions as well. He's like, how much, he's like, would,

Speaker 1 you know,

Speaker 1 whatever, suck dick or something like that. I can't remember exactly what it was, but how much would you do that for? And I was like,

Speaker 1 I wouldn't do that.

Speaker 1 $1,000, like $1,000 was a lot of money to me at the time. And he goes, well, how much would you do it for then? You know, and I was just like, all right, this guy's a little fucking homo.

Speaker 1 And so I started thinking, exit plan. And so he went out and got me some stogies.
And then um

Speaker 1 i don't know he came back and i was just like yeah i'm good bro can you give me a ride back to where i was going wow and he did but i was seeing double and that was dangerous because if i would have passed out

Speaker 1 poop shoot violated and so so those are the only two kind of I would say weirdo situations. Nothing dangerous, just kind of weirdo.
Yeah. My dad had to jump out of a window once.

Speaker 1 He told me that story.

Speaker 1 Yeah. And that just just corroborates this whole, you know, Catholic Church pedophile thing.
And of course, Spotlight was made in 2015 and won the Academy Award.

Speaker 1 You know, people forget about stuff like that.

Speaker 1 Did he get exposed, the guy that picked you up? Oh, I'm not sure. I mean, that was God, it had to have been like 1979 or so.

Speaker 1 So before social media, yeah, it was harder to really expose people back then.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but it's well known in the Catholic Church. And so I just keep my children

Speaker 1 right next to me. Yeah.
I don't trust anyone. And

Speaker 1 I bought my son a Corvette and he moved up to Montreal and Corvettes don't do so well in the snow. So I'm selling it for him.

Speaker 1 Well, he put it online. He's like, dad, this guy says I need to go on this.
We have a CarFax and Carfax is the gold standard, right? Selling cars.

Speaker 1 And the guy's like telling him he needs something else.

Speaker 1 And I told my son, Everybody online until you meet them in person is a scammer. 100%.

Speaker 1 And so, you know, online is a completely different story.

Speaker 1 Speaking of scammers,

Speaker 1 we got to talk about your scam. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 Did that get resolved? We're going to bring it up. Yeah.

Speaker 1 We're talking about Andy Elliott. Yeah.

Speaker 1 No, it has not been resolved. Andy Elliott took $50,000 from me and did not deliver on his contractual promise and stole my IP.
and published it on a website.

Speaker 1 I thought by now he would have reached out because you made a whole video and 50k for him is like not that much, you know? Yeah, it should be nothing, right? And Brad Lee also

Speaker 1 called him and asked to return my money. And they're close friends, right?

Speaker 1 You know, I can't speak for my other brothers.

Speaker 1 You know,

Speaker 1 I don't know what to say, you know, but if you take a man's money, especially 50 racks,

Speaker 1 I think it's important to deliver. And especially in this day and age, especially if you're all over the internet saying you're making $100 million

Speaker 1 and you've got 22 counts of fraud and you turned state's evidence and became a snitch in Oklahoma,

Speaker 1 that's a bad track record. And so I'm working with the bearded lawyer.
He's an IP and e-commerce attorney. And

Speaker 1 I had a lawsuit recently since I became successful. And I don't like them whatsoever.
They take up a lot of your time and energy.

Speaker 1 And so, so, you know, we're weighing all possibilities. I had a private investigator as well.

Speaker 1 And so, and I have my podcast with the beard lawyer up on YouTube.

Speaker 1 I wish human beings would just do the right thing. He was so gun-ho, Troy Casey, certified health not.
I didn't know who this guy was. I didn't do enough research.
I was in a desperate. position.

Speaker 1 We'd been doing about

Speaker 1 $50,000 a month in sales, $30,000 $30,000 on advertising. And we were doing my breathwork course and my Ripped at 50 book.
We had tremendous success and

Speaker 1 I moved on from my marketing partner and I needed to rebuild that infrastructure. And

Speaker 1 I was dealing with a lawsuit at the time and

Speaker 1 I was kind of desperate and I really believed, you know, Andy's like sales. I didn't even make him work that hard.
He looked me in the eye as one man to another, you know, right in front of my face.

Speaker 1 And, you know, I was having a lot of trouble building this technical infrastructure. He had 90,000 square foot space.
He had 20, 30 guys there working for him. I figured he says he can do it.

Speaker 1 Let's do it, man.

Speaker 1 You know, talk is cheap, but let's do it, man. You got the space.
I didn't, I didn't think he'd fuck me over,

Speaker 1 not deliver. I mean, how hard is it to market me, dude? I've been on the internet for 20 years.
You say you got any marketing prowess whatsoever to build infrastructure.

Speaker 1 I have courses that have sold many units. I have

Speaker 1 a huge following online, and you can't monetize me. You can't put your money where your mouth is.
You can't actually get your team to actually create sales pages and infrastructure.

Speaker 1 And then you've got to steal my IP and lie to people that I made more money working with you.

Speaker 1 I mean, I had to call a cease and desist as soon as I caught him lying. And

Speaker 1 I still expect him to do the right thing.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I wonder what his point of view on all this is because I haven't heard him speak out at all about it.
Well, that's like, that's like Fauci. Like,

Speaker 1 why hasn't Fauci

Speaker 1 Fauci

Speaker 1 sued?

Speaker 1 RFK for defamation of character. Fauci's going to get locked up, I think, man.
Dude, I mean, that book that he wrote is huge. Yeah.

Speaker 1 So, you know, Andy Elliott and his scammer sales team guys, I mean, what are you going to do? But the thing is, is, is, I'm not the only one he scammed. Oh, that's even worse.
I didn't know that.

Speaker 1 I get written all the time for people he scammed.

Speaker 1 People that he's taken money from. Are they too scared to go public? And haven't delivered.

Speaker 1 I don't know what everybody's story is. Some people that is,

Speaker 1 you know, it's also not that easy. You got to go find an attorney.
That usually costs money.

Speaker 1 And then what direction? You know, you go.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I mean, it's

Speaker 1 where do you, where do you go to get your money back from somebody that doesn't deliver? Yeah. I'm expecting people to do honorable business, honest, authentic.

Speaker 1 Do what you say.

Speaker 1 If you got angry customers out there talking shit,

Speaker 1 make it right.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Who wants angry customers?

Speaker 1 That's not good for business. Not at all.

Speaker 1 I've only had two refunds since I've started this show, and I gave it to them immediately as soon as they asked because I don't want to have angry customers running around. Right.

Speaker 1 You know, I don't want chargebacks. I don't want to lose my payment processor.
I want to have good relationships with the banks and the credit cards. I believe in karma too.

Speaker 1 So I just try to do good business and be a good person all around. And I live here in the Valley and I hear bad things about the Elliott group all the time.
Look, the guy that took over

Speaker 1 my project at the Elliott Group, Sean Pollard, he works for Apex now. I just think these guys are all scammers.
They're just trying to get money. And, you know, he's gone.

Speaker 1 They were on a social media post giving him a Rolex and somebody had offered him a million dollars. And they're like, nope, Sean's not leaving.
You know,

Speaker 1 staying with the Elliott group. Well, months after, months after I left and they didn't deliver on me, Sean Pollard left.

Speaker 1 The IP or the tech guy that was building out the CRM and he's gone, Roger Long.

Speaker 1 So, I mean, when your employees start jumping ship, that doesn't look good as well.

Speaker 1 And so, um,

Speaker 1 yeah, I hope that gets resolved to you, man. That's, that sucks.

Speaker 1 Was that the biggest scam that someone pulled off on you, I guess? Yeah. I mean, look, I invested a quarter million dollars on technical infrastructure and

Speaker 1 we're just starting to make ROI on that now. Some of it I chalk up as school of hard knocks.

Speaker 1 I just wish people would do straight business, especially in the tech world. If you say you can take the money, results in this industry are cash coming through your Stripe account.

Speaker 1 Am I right or am I wrong? Yeah, ROI.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 if that's the case, then deliver. I mean, don't take the money if you are not adept at building sales funnels, email sequences, copywriting.

Speaker 1 I mean, I didn't know anything about this and I had to learn just the terminology. Yeah.
And so, you know, VSLs, um,

Speaker 1 you know, pixels, if you're going to do advertising and stuff like this.

Speaker 1 well, that's why I just hate the agency model in general, the ad agency model, because they're taking a retainer and then charging you on ad spend too.

Speaker 1 Yep.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 if it doesn't work out, they're just like,

Speaker 1 I mean, I don't even have anything to show from the Elliott group. There was no website changes.
There was nothing. No ads?

Speaker 1 They didn't run ads for me. I just needed the infrastructure.
I have a warm market. I have a customer base.
People want to work with me. This was a,

Speaker 1 I have multiple courses. People want to work for me.
They work with me. They don't even know what I offer.

Speaker 1 So I came to him for everything, packaging, pricing.

Speaker 1 I have the contract and everything. Wow.
That is crazy, dude. Yeah.
Hopefully that gets resolved, man. Yeah, do the right thing.
You take a man's money, deliver.

Speaker 1 I mean, he's definitely seen you popping off about it on social media. I'm just surprised he hasn't responded or addressed it at all.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Well, well, I just think that's a coward, in my humble opinion. You know, they want to promote themselves as alphas, but

Speaker 1 we know

Speaker 1 people that are making a bunch of noise. Not to mention, 50 grand when you're popping off.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you got, you got, supposedly, you got some kind of Ferrari in your garage you bought for your wife, and this, that, and the other thing.

Speaker 1 You're making a hundred million dollars on the other guy's podcast.

Speaker 1 Great, bro. 50 Gs for Troy Casey, the certified health nut.
Dude, I've been on the internet for 20 years. I'm getting people healthy.
I'm getting results. I'm a cool motherfucker, right?

Speaker 1 You're going to fuck me over? Dude, you're fucking yourself over. Like you said, Karma.
You know, that's just a bad name for him. And the twins, Ian Macklin and Evan Macklin.
These guys are punks.

Speaker 1 What do they do? Well, they're the ones who were the big sales guys. The story goes I met them.

Speaker 1 uh through my top client here in uh the valley a big real estate guy who i trusted He'd been my client for years.

Speaker 1 He brought me to Lifetime to work out at the Biltmore. They've got an ice bath there and it's the 6 a.m.
crew. And the twins walked up.

Speaker 1 Hey, Troy Casey, certified, hey, we know you, you know, and I didn't know they were like sales. Like, I didn't know this is all a sales game.
I do know now this is Scottsdale.

Speaker 1 This is the game they play.

Speaker 1 And so

Speaker 1 they're, I was like, what do you guys do? And they're like, oh, we do sales sales training or something like that. And I was like, okay, well, I don't have a sales team.

Speaker 1 So I was just like, all right, you know, cool. And then I saw them at

Speaker 1 Scottsdale Lifetime. And I guess this is what they do.
They cruise the

Speaker 1 gym locker rooms looking for clients or trying to hustle people. And so I saw them.
And then we got to chatting. I'm an affable human being.
I like other human beings. And I've lived in the big city.

Speaker 1 I always like connecting and networking with people.

Speaker 1 I thought they were cool. I invited them over to my house and they started telling me about Andy.
Sounded cool.

Speaker 1 And then I went over to the Lion's Den. They said they could deliver and they didn't deliver.
And

Speaker 1 I'm a little butthurt. 50 Gs is a good amount of money for a man.
And it's peanuts, supposedly, for Andy Elliott, the $100 million man. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 I've had situations where like people owe me money and then I go on their Instagram and they're like on a yacht or something. I can relate to that for sure.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 I, you know, I studied success for years, Tony Robbins, Bob Proctor type of stuff,

Speaker 1 the principles of Napoleon Hill and all that.

Speaker 1 But none, nowhere in these books did it tell me that people rip you off once you start making money. Yeah, someone needs to make a book on how not to get scammed.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Protect your assets, right? Yeah, protect your assets and watch out for lawsuits.

Speaker 1 Like literally the banditos and cucarachas they come out of the woodwork yeah and uh now i'm much more aware we had a conversation when i rolled up here i've got um

Speaker 1 i've got my you know legal situation tied up i operate in the private and uh

Speaker 1 yeah i'm going towards that now because people just assume since we're big on social media we have tons of money yeah and it's like dude it's great i don't own anything yeah I mean, I literally am broke.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Like, I have no cash in the bank right now.
I don't own anything. So, and I like it that way.
And I operate in the private. So that's the way to do it, man.
Nothing can be taken from you.

Speaker 1 There's nothing to be taken. Not your house, not your cars or anything.
I don't own anything. Yeah.
Well, you are a minimalist, too. Also,

Speaker 1 I love I love being naked in the sun or close to the sun. You were just sunbathing out there or whatever it's called.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I wanted it. Saw you shirtless out there.
Yeah, I wanted to get some sun. It makes your skin pop when you go on camera.
I learned that as a model. Really? Years ago.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Oh, you should tell that to Brian Johnson. Oh, yeah? Yeah.
He doesn't leave his house past 10 a.m. Is he looking like a vampire? A little bit, yeah.
He gets a lot of hate.

Speaker 1 I think overall, though, he's a benefit to society. Yeah, I don't, you know, there's a lot of people I disagree with in their philosophy, including Andy Elliott and how he gets his muscles.

Speaker 1 Like whether it's Dave Asprey and his whole biohacking, you know, injection, peptide,

Speaker 1 you know, however people get it, I don't really have any hate or malice towards people. It's just like, let's not bullshit people.
You can have extreme health through nature.

Speaker 1 You can get all your stuff being a natural human being. And so you don't need exogenous hormones, drugs, PEDs, peptides.

Speaker 1 It's unnecessary. And so you can get everything you need from sunlight, organic food, pure water, good sleep,

Speaker 1 consistent movement. Keep it simple.
Super simple. Yeah, I agree with that.
A lot of people are pushing the stem cell stuff on me. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 Well, as you know, I've got the best stem cells because we talked about it on the last podcast.

Speaker 1 Aged urine has got hundreds of millions of stem cells. Yep.
And so I did a great podcast on that. People can find that on my YouTube channel.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I'm leaning towards not ever getting them just because there's, I believe at least there's a spiritual component to these stem cells. Especially if you're getting them from children's foreskin.

Speaker 1 That's what I'm saying. You're putting these stem cells from God knows where in your body.
They're from someone else. Correct, Amundo.
Yeah, and people don't talk about that.

Speaker 1 That's correct. Did Dr.
Edward Group talk about the urine therapy? He owns urinotherapy.com. Yeah, he talked about it.
I've had Jonathan Otto on the show. Oh, yeah.
He talked about it.

Speaker 1 I haven't done it yet, but I've been tempted. Dude, free stem cells.
I mean, it's worth it. I mean, you don't have to talk about it.

Speaker 1 I know all the podcasters, they like to talk about it because it makes good clickbait.

Speaker 1 But the fact of the matter is, you get a 62, 64 ounce mason jar and just start peeing in it first thing in the morning and age it a little bit.

Speaker 1 If you got a pool deck in Vegas, go out on your pool deck, get it on the sun. I swear to God, when I put it on my face or when I put it on my body, aches and pains go away on my body.

Speaker 1 When I put it on my face, my mood lifts. Wow.
That instantaneous? Oh, man. It's money.
I know certain athletes use it on their feet after games, football games, whatever.

Speaker 1 They'll soak their feet in it. great

Speaker 1 really i never heard that but great no there's a famous nfl player that did it i'm forgetting the name but uh yeah i guess his feet got inflamed during the game so he would just soak them in there good

Speaker 1 well aged urine's making a comeback well dr edward group says if you get maimed by these

Speaker 1 these these poison injections and the nanobots are getting you and your skin's crawling with chemtrail nanobots and all this and the hydrogels and the synthetic red blood cells, urine is the only way back because it holds your stem cells, which is the blueprint for your DNA.

Speaker 1 Wow. Right then and there.
And so,

Speaker 1 yeah. I didn't know there was nanobots in the chemtrails, too.
I thought it was just in the injections.

Speaker 1 Wherever they're coming from, Barbero knows better. Some people say in the food, too.

Speaker 1 Sure.

Speaker 1 There you go.

Speaker 1 Food, soil, chemtrails.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they want to upload you to the cloud, man.

Speaker 1 They want full slavery. Yeah.
You know, I love Elon Musk, but I don't know. I don't want a chip in my head.
Chip in your head. He's got the robots now.
Did you see those?

Speaker 1 There was some robots at his last event bartending for people.

Speaker 1 That's trippy. I mean, look, I'm not against the future and I'm not against

Speaker 1 evolution and technology. However, I am much more for nature and an analog and kind of going back to the original design.

Speaker 1 And I guess, you know, if we are all the essence and presence of God, then we are manufacturing AI and technology. And so we are a part of that.

Speaker 1 I just,

Speaker 1 I just don't know if we need to go back. I mean,

Speaker 1 I don't know if we need, first of all, artificial intelligence is

Speaker 1 neither, right?

Speaker 1 Well, it's not intelligent. And so

Speaker 1 I just know, as a man who's been in this world, the more I stare at my phone, the worse my eyesight gets, the more confused my brain gets.

Speaker 1 The more I put it down, go outside in the sun and in nature and get grounded and hike in the mountains, the better I feel. The less clothing I have on me, the better I feel.

Speaker 1 The more time I get to spend with my children and then other colleagues that are sourcing good food and working with farmers, et cetera, the more fulfilled,

Speaker 1 the more fulfilled my soul feels.

Speaker 1 The more I go towards synthetic and

Speaker 1 air-conditioned environments and sitting in my car, the more controlled and like decrepit I feel.

Speaker 1 The more outside I am in nature's elements and connecting and communing with other human beings.

Speaker 1 the more connected and fulfilled I feel. I can relate to that.
I had to get rid of of my Tesla, dude.

Speaker 1 Was it giving, was it frying your nuts and your testosterone? Probably. I felt terrible in there, dude.
You felt I would get headaches. Really? Yeah.
Oh, that's good to know.

Speaker 1 And that makes sense because that thing's all just a big buzz.

Speaker 1 EMF everywhere. And it connects to the iPad, which is based off 5G.
So you're just sitting in 5G pretty much. You're just being nuked.
Yeah. Oh, I bought a couple Corvettes.

Speaker 1 I bought a couple analog Corvettes

Speaker 1 to have a little fun. And i don't i don't even like sitting in my car i have i i ride my bicycle pretty much everywhere i go nice and uh

Speaker 1 and so um you got the emf blockers you believe in those

Speaker 1 the chips or whatever those companies all send it to me uh i have them next to my bed and next to my children's bed i also have orgon generators I don't know if you've ever seen them, but if you put them in resin ball bearings and crystals, it sends off a piezioelectric charge and changes the

Speaker 1 negative ions in the room, makes it more like nature. That's cool.

Speaker 1 I have the best ones made by

Speaker 1 Michelle Hood. I need to get one for my podcast studio in Vegas.
Dude, they're beautiful.

Speaker 1 She makes these pyramid ones because I know all the hippies in Sedona make them, but it ends up being like this black resin and it's ugly.

Speaker 1 And I have a few of those as well.

Speaker 1 But Michelle Hood makes these pyramid ones. She made one for me.
She made one for Paul Chek. She makes them professionally.
And they're just beautiful.

Speaker 1 I'll send you a picture anyway

Speaker 1 and show you. So I have Orgon generators.

Speaker 1 The energy in my house feels nice.

Speaker 1 I have an Aries.

Speaker 1 I have that one. Yeah, the circle one.

Speaker 1 I have the biggest one. It's about that big.
And I sit that next to my bed. I have some EMF rocks.

Speaker 1 I've got all the tricks and tools, but the biggest thing is, is that I want the windows all open in the wintertime. I want as much cold, fresh air.
I love, I was just in California.

Speaker 1 The climate in California is just unbeatable. Yeah.
It's just amazing. And so that's the one good thing about California.
I know, the political climate, you know, they lost their cookies. So

Speaker 1 the thing is, is

Speaker 1 I have every device in my house and I use them, but my main objective, my best EMF protector is to keep the thing away away from me.

Speaker 1 The phone away from you? As much as possible, you know, and stay out of Wi-Fi rich areas. I, you know, all these new buildings they're building, like, have you been to the Optima buildings?

Speaker 1 These are little prisons, man. Yeah, it's 40 floors of Wi-Fi.
Yeah, it's, it's 15-minute cities. And it's, it's like, I just want to be in nature as much as possible.

Speaker 1 My game plan is to get a big compound because

Speaker 1 I have a good team right now and I have a lot of people that want to work with me. So people that can come and out, come in and out.
My mentor, Paul Check, has an amazing place in

Speaker 1 California. It's 15 acres and

Speaker 1 it has all the buildings he needs to teach his classes, et cetera. And so,

Speaker 1 and they're growing food there as well. And so that's where my mind is at, at the right place.
And at the same

Speaker 1 In saying that, I've also lived in the big cities my whole life. I enjoy a city.
I lived in Milan, I lived in Paris, I lived in Tokyo, London, Miami, New York, LA for 25 years. I like

Speaker 1 being in the

Speaker 1 social environment with a constant influx of people and being outside. That's why I loved California so much because I lived on the beach.

Speaker 1 I could be outside all day long

Speaker 1 and

Speaker 1 connect with people. I used to love going to Gold's.
You'd see everyone from RFK and Arnold Schwarzenegger and 50 Cent and

Speaker 1 J-Lo. I mean, you see people in there every single day.

Speaker 1 And I miss that. I do.
I'm thinking of moving to Miami, but Miami is also extremely hot in the summer. Super humid.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 It is good for networking, but yeah, something about that city atmosphere for entrepreneurship is a good match. Bro, I step into L.A., man, and people want to start doing stuff right away.

Speaker 1 Well, your energy is also high, so they gravitate towards you. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And Scottsdale is a weird animal. It's like I'm invisible here.
Really? It's interesting. That's interesting.
Either that or you get the Lambo bros and like the sales bros. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I don't like the materialism of certain cities.

Speaker 1 Yeah, here it's like, here's like LA without any talent.

Speaker 1 At least in LA, people are extremely creative. Yeah, some people, yeah.
There's a lot of leechers in LA, but if you get in the right circles, it's definitely productive.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I'm in Venice, so you've got the entertainment industry combined with the tech industry and

Speaker 1 a lot of fitness people as well.

Speaker 1 A lot of people that are very interested in health out in L.A. I miss LA, but I'm enjoying Scottsdale right now.

Speaker 1 I've got a nice place here. My team is here.

Speaker 1 Love it. Well, Troy, what's next for you, man? Where can people find you?

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Speaker 1 We've got my online university. You can sign up for a dollar.

Speaker 1 And then we do my legacy method. I'm coaching men and women, people that want to go deeper in their body, mind, and soul.
And

Speaker 1 we'll be doing retreats. I've got one planned in Tulum for May of next year.

Speaker 1 And we'll be doing retreats here in Scottsdale as well. So certifiedhealthnut.com and certified healthnut all across the internet.
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