Trap Lore Ross: How Rappers Snitch on Themselves in Their Own Songs | DSH #1701

Speaker 1 Every major city that's got a drill music and a gang music scene, there's a subreddit for it. Sometimes two or three.
Chicago, they got Chiracology. Jacksonville, they got Duval County.

Speaker 1 In UK, they got R slash UK drill. In Toronto, they got Torontology.
Damn near every city you can think of, there's a subreddit, and they're solving the murders before the police doing theirs. Wow.

Speaker 1 So I'm part of those communities and I'm quite active in those communities. But also, like, I do my own research.

Speaker 1 I take what people are saying in those communities and then I look at police reports, I look at interviews, lyrics, and try and piece together the truth from that.

Speaker 1 But yeah, those guys on Reddit, man, they really be solving the murders before the police. And sometimes it takes the police to Reddit.

Speaker 1 So they see what's going on on the Reddit and then they swoop in. No way.
Yeah, man.

Speaker 1 All right, guys, ComplexCon day two. We got Trap Lore Ross here today.
Had a little incident yesterday, but thanks for coming. I appreciate it, man.
I'm still out here. I'm still outside.

Speaker 1 So, you know, I'm not too discouraged. Yeah.
I know we were trying to set this up and then I saw that viral video and I was like, oh, let me hit him up to come on. So it worked out.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's epic that you're out here, man. We've been meaning to do something for a minute and, you know, this is a great way to do it.
Yeah, absolutely. How's the event been for you?

Speaker 1 It's been amazing, man. I've had such a good time.
Like, it's been good music, good food, good people, like, great merch, all kinds of cool stuff getting given away. I love it.

Speaker 1 It's my first Complex Con and it's fire. And I, you know, I'm so grateful that I was on the Complex list, you know, the last two years.

Speaker 1 I went up in the rankings last year, so I'm hoping to keep that going and just show love to Complex because

Speaker 1 I've been rocking with what they do here at Legendary. What's your ranking right now? I think I was 13.
Okay. I got the unlucky number, man.

Speaker 1 So I don't know how I was feeling about 13, but I think before I was like 19 or something, so something like that. But I'm blessed.

Speaker 1 You know, I'm so grateful to even be on the list just to get that recognition. You know, I love what I do.
I don't do it for that kind of thing.

Speaker 1 But I feel like what Complex are doing with this list is really important. You know, I feel like maybe it could grow one day.

Speaker 1 This might end up becoming like an Oscars for hip-hop content creators or something. So I really love what they're doing, man.
See how it's a complex. How is that list based off?

Speaker 1 Is it off views or is there a formula? I don't actually know, to be honest. I feel like maybe they kind of, you know, pick their favorites and maybe they have a little ball.

Speaker 1 I did notice that Adam 22 was absent from last year's list. So I thought maybe that was a little bit of a snob.
Maybe they're not rocking with him, man. But that's my homie.

Speaker 1 But I don't know what the algorithm is for working that out. I would love to know because if you tell me what gets you rising up that list, I'm going to do it.
I feel you've known Adam for a minute.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I connected with Adam in 2020 back in the pandemic.

Speaker 1 You know, I was just doing my thing. Before anyone showed me love in the UK, Adam was the first person to hit me up.
And, you know, he bought his guy house phone that was on the pod.

Speaker 1 he kind of like tapped adam in with me on a pod they were talking about my stuff and then we know we got on a phone call we did like a digital interview in covid and then when covered ended i was able to go out there and do no jumper and he's just been a friend ever since you know i know he gets a lot of hate but he's just been a mad supporter he's just a nice guy offline you know there's a lot of crazy stories about him over the years but to me he's just for me that's a nice shout out to adam yeah i could tell with your videos you put in a lot of effort and time I try, man.

Speaker 1 I try. Some of them are two hours long.
I got six hours, my longest one. Holy crap.
Yeah, it's like a movie. Bro, I see it like a book set, like a whole mini series, like a six, seven seasons.

Speaker 1 You know, I got a young boy video that's six hours and I got a video about a gang called 600 that was exactly six hours, zero, zero. I just nerded out.
I was like, it's 600.

Speaker 1 We're going to make this video six double O. Yeah.
So yeah, I'm just a nerd with it, man. I'm a psycho.
I don't know how I do it sometimes. I look back.
I'm like, how did I make six hours?

Speaker 1 How do I even do that? But I just look in.

Speaker 1 you know, the young boy video, that took me three whole months, solid research every day, working the weekends, and my editors working around the clock to do that.

Speaker 1 we're just super passionate about what we do man like i love the music i love youngboy i love all the people i talk about like i'm obsessed with their music man it's you know it's maybe it's an unhealthy obsession but it is what it is man i mean there's a market there you're getting a lot of views people want to know i guess the personal side of these rappers right honestly sometimes i find myself surprised that that many people are even interested in this when i got started on youtube I used to do stand-up comedy.

Speaker 1 I used to make rap music. I make skits.
You know, I was never getting any views. And then once I started getting views, it was like I went from zero to hero quick and was getting millions of views.

Speaker 1 And even now, I still pinch myself.

Speaker 1 myself i think how is that real like i can't believe three four million people want to hear me waffle about youngboy for six hours but i think people relate to the passion people that are passionate about youngboy they want to sit and learn about him for six hours and you know i sat there and learned about him for three months and gave that to people as something they could enjoy so i like to think i'm kind of helping artists like connect with the fans and people that understand their music more because that's what made me fall in love with the music man the stories and the characters and everything behind the media You just fall in love with these rappers once you know their backstories, you know, to pause, but like fall in love for them as a spiritual sense, you know what i mean but i just all the people i talk about i just i love their music i love the culture man that's what it is is the reception from the rappers usually pretty positive it's mixed man it's mixed uh you know i i ran into central c yesterday that was definitely a a mixed reaction to say the least but to be honest i find that the especially the american artists a lot of guys i've done videos on a couple of the guys from 600 i did videos on i've met them and they've been cool because i think especially in america a lot of rappers understand the media and they understand how important it is to get your name out there and to raise your notoriety so a lot of people i mean it's so sad man but rest in peace to thf bezu just passed away yesterday but he was somebody who did a interview with no jumper and they asked him what do you think all these documentaries he was one of king von's really close friends and he kind of said oh man it's mixy but i rate what he's doing and he's spreading the word and he's building us up and he's bringing us clout so rest in peace to bezoo man but you know i never got a chance to meet him but he was somebody who you know showed some showed some respect and said he robbed with the content and i feel like it you know it's it's it's easy for everyone to kind of act tough and hate but i feel like it's actually you know know, really respectable for him to say, look, just to keep it real, like, you're making us more notorious.

Speaker 1 You're bringing us streaming numbers. I spoke to King Von's manager, 100K Track, and he said, look, after you made that documentary about King Vaughn, the streaming numbers shot up.

Speaker 1 So people were saying, you make all this money, but I helped them make more money. So, you know,

Speaker 1 it's not why I do it, but I thought that was really interesting. And I'm really just trying to push the culture.
I want more eyeballs on this music I love. So that's it.

Speaker 1 Well, yeah, attention's currency, right? You just got to figure out how to channel it and monetize it. Yeah.
Even if it's coming in negative at first, look what Jake and Logan Vall did.

Speaker 1 They turned it into tens of millions of dollars. Yeah, you know, it's funny because sometimes I make stuff and it's kind of like, I don't know if I'm going to get a positive or negative response.

Speaker 1 And, you know, sometimes I've done stuff where I'm like, people are going to hate this, but they love it. And then there's other times I've been like, oh, this will be cool.

Speaker 1 And it's gone completely left. So it's really out of your hands once you release that video.

Speaker 1 But my thing is I just try and focus on the truth, the facts of the situation and really just give people like my unbiased opinion and facts and research on a situation.

Speaker 1 And sometimes it's positive, sometimes it's negative, but you can't say I don't keep it real. Absolutely.
So, the Central C incident, it looked like he was cool with you.

Speaker 1 And then I don't know who that guy was. Was that his manager? Yeah, that's his manager, YB's, man.
So, he's a very notorious guy in the UK.

Speaker 1 He used to be a rapper, and then he kind of didn't really make it with the rapping. So, he got into managing and he found Central C.

Speaker 1 And kind of back when Central C was making kind of kind of music for girls with the auto-tune, he basically said, No, you need to get in the streets, you need to put on a Nike Tech and basically start rapping about the gangster stuff that's really popping right now.

Speaker 1 This is like 2018, 2019, when UK Drill really first had a resurgence.

Speaker 1 You know, we had the number one uk drill song during those years a song called body and basically drill gangster music was the biggest thing at the time and if the story goes ybe's basically got central c and turned him into this sort of gangster rapper and you know i talked about why bees in the documentary he wasn't happy with what i said about him he usually covers up his face but i showed his face in the documentary because he was a rapper back in the day his face is all over but he's got this kind of new persona so i don't think he was feeling that man he tried to press me but at the end of the day nothing really happened and you know it was uh it was a crazy moment but i think it just goes to show man like look i'm not i'm not scared of people like i'm not a tough guy that he was saying he was gonna punch me i'm not a tough guy there's nothing tough about pressing me i'm a nerd i'm a professor all right so there's nothing tough about pressing me let's fight it out with words i said let's have a conversation we had a brief conversation i just dropped the clip on my my youtube channel with the second part of that conversation people didn't see and you know it is what it is man but i really don't take it to heart central c was actually a lovely guy like he was a sweetheart to me so i feel like he was actually a super nice guy i think his manager took issue and sench said it himself he said look it's not even me he said i'm running a business i see where the promo.

Speaker 1 promo I see the benefit of this. But the people around me, they don't like the way you put me down.

Speaker 1 They're really just trying to, you know, show what they're willing to do for him and really show that show them their best so that they can

Speaker 1 show their loyalty. Show their loyalty to Central C.
So I understand it, but you know, I didn't get touched. It wasn't a problem.
I'm not taking it to heart.

Speaker 1 And a lot of people making jokes, making memes of Bello shouting, gow the booth, gow the booth. So it is what it is, man.
But, you know, I don't know.

Speaker 1 I don't know if we're going to squash that one anytime soon. Was that the first time someone's came up to you in person?

Speaker 1 Man, no, not the first time. I had a little altercation with Tay Savage a while back.
I did a video about him and his double murder case that he beat like a few years ago.

Speaker 1 But it was an interesting one because we bumped into each other. We had some tension.
There was a clip. But then we kind of squashed it afterwards and we kind of became friendly.

Speaker 1 I explained to him, look, I'm a fan. I'm really just trying to push what you got going on.
I can't sugarcoat it, you know, all of this stuff out you.

Speaker 1 The paperworks out there about your case and all that kind of stuff. People want to know it.
And once we had a dialogue, I think he understood, look, you're really trying to push what I'm doing.

Speaker 1 I did some promo for him. I did a few more videos just pushing his new music.
And he kind of understood it and respected it. And then we did an interview.

Speaker 1 So I don't know if it's going to go that way with Central C.

Speaker 1 I think the problem is, I think the American rappers, because Americans are a lot more capitalistic and they understand the game, that even if it takes a bit of time, they recognize it.

Speaker 1 But I think in the UK, there's just like a different attitude in the UK. People feel like you shouldn't even be allowed to talk to each other and everyone's very territorial.

Speaker 1 So I don't think it's going to go that way with Central C.

Speaker 1 But most Americans I speak to, even if we have a little issue, we kind of find an understanding after a point, especially when they realize, like, I'm still trying to promote you.

Speaker 1 Like, I'm trying to keep talking about what you've got going on, keep your name alive. So, people understand that, I think, in America.

Speaker 1 I think in America, there's more of you here, more people that do your type of content. And in the UK, maybe you're one of very few people, right? Yeah, it's a new thing, man.

Speaker 1 And shout out to all of the people coming up in the UK that are doing their thing. My guy Honcho's house, Bouncer, Tanks, you know, all of the content creators in the UK, Billy the Goat, Cremo.

Speaker 1 They're really doing their thing. I think the UK is a little bit stuck, a few years behind America.

Speaker 1 You know, I was just really lucky to be one of of the first people doing hip-hop documentary content um and i just so happened to be from the uk thankfully america's really embraced me probably more than the uk but a lot of people in the uk have shown me love now you know like i say adam was the first person to put me on but you know i've heard from all kind of people afterwards you know it's uh charlie slough showing me love you know different interviewers from the uk young spray that's my guy um you know it's controversial now but tim westward show me love you know if it's his uh it's a tricky one for him right now but you know even for someone like that who's an og i grew up listening to his stuff you know i appreciated that he would reach out um but it's a you know, it's an unfortunate situation right now.

Speaker 1 But yeah, no, I just really appreciate all the support that I'm getting from the UK now.

Speaker 1 And I'm trying to support that new generation of people coming up in the UK, people like Tang to Bounce or Honcho. So yeah, just love to see it.

Speaker 2 Facts. Shout out to today's sponsor, Quince.
As the weather cools, I'm swapping in the pieces that actually gets the job done that are warm, durable, and built to last.

Speaker 2 Quince delivers every time with wardrobe staples that'll carry you through the season. They have false staples that you'll actually want to wear, like the 100% Mongolian cashmere for just $60.

Speaker 2 They also got classic fit denim and real leather and wool outerwear that looks sharp and holds up.

Speaker 2 By partnering directly with ethical factories and top artisans, Quince cuts out the middleman to deliver premium quality at half the cost of similar brands.

Speaker 2 They've really become a go-to across the board. You guys know how I love linen and how I've talked about it on previous episodes.
I picked up some linen pants and they feel incredible.

Speaker 2 The quality is definitely noticeable compared to other brands. Layer up this fall with pieces that feel as good as they look.

Speaker 2 Go to quince.com/slash dsh for free shipping on your order and 365-day 365-day returns. They're also available in Canada too.

Speaker 1 6ix9ine seems like he's making a comeback to social media. Have you ever made a video about him? I made a whole bunch of videos about him, but it was very early in my career.
You know what's funny?

Speaker 1 I actually ended up getting on a FaceTime call with 6ix9ine the other day because I'm close with Vlad and Adam and all that kind of thing. Everybody's kind of getting their content in with him.

Speaker 1 So I tapped him with 6ix9ine. And you know what's crazy? He said, yeah, I love your stuff.
I watched all your Chicago documentaries. And I said, you see the one I did about you? He said, no.

Speaker 1 And then I realized, oh, I made about eight videos about 6ix9ine back when he was on trial. And he would have been in jail in the feds the whole time.

Speaker 1 So he never really clocked the videos I made about him. So, you know, I'm hoping I might be able to do some content with him soon and maybe get him to react to some of the stuff that I've done.

Speaker 1 Because I dyed my hair rainbow back in 2019 when I did a video about him. And, you know, I'm a big fan of 6ix9ine, man.
I don't care what anyone says. I think he's a genius marketer.

Speaker 1 You know, he makes good music. And, you know, the persona,

Speaker 1 if hip-hop is WWE wrestling, man, he's stone cold out there. He's on the Mount Rushmore.
Facts. I'm rooting for his gunback, honestly.
Me too, man. And those Vlad clips have been going crazy.
Crazy.

Speaker 1 Vlad, he's just went on Fresh and Fit. I think he's going on Adam soon.
Yeah, yeah, I'm waiting for the Adam interview.

Speaker 1 I'm hearing there's a few other names that might be getting an interview with him soon, man. So stay tuned.
Let's go. See you on.
You also just made a video on Top 5.

Speaker 1 What do you think about him because he's he's coming on my show actually no way

Speaker 1 man all right you got yeah if you haven't check out that video i did on top five so look top five all right he is a notorious gangster in

Speaker 1 toronto okay he's been known as one of the most terrifying gangsters he's part of this crew called the ggg the go get him gang and look allegedly they really go and get him top five's name's been associated with about three murders that i could find in in you know in toronto you know that last murder that he got caught up on he was looking like he was potentially facing life on that but apparently drake got him the best lawyer he ended up beating that case they had a one-year window to refile it that's just passed top five said he was celebrating they can't charge him with that murder now and now he's out here becoming a streamer so i i respect what top five's doing man and he's really got the personality for this stuff you know he goes live on kick he gets 10 000 viewers he goes crazy with the content he does all these interviews he doesn't duck any fades or questions so i really respect what he's done but man it just breaks my heart because he used to be really close with another amazing rapper from Toronto Presser.

Speaker 1 They had a little falling out and now there's, you know, there's a civil war going on in Toronto.

Speaker 1 And it breaks my heart because when Presser and his brother Bundog and top five and YG is another great rapper from Toronto were all together, that was like a golden era for Toronto music, man.

Speaker 1 So I'm just hoping maybe there's a way for them to squash it. But you know, shout out to top five, shout out to Presser, shout out to YGO.
No problems with these guys. I know I'll see you.

Speaker 1 Shout out to Bundog too. But man, Toronto is real.
For anybody thinking Toronto is not serious like that, man, you got a reality check because Toronto is dangerous as hell.

Speaker 1 The only way to mediate that sounds like Drake has to get involved, right?

Speaker 1 I know, but I think this might be a little bit out of Drake's, like, out of Drake's remit. You know what I mean? This, like, it's devolved into real street business.

Speaker 1 You know, there's been seemingly incidents on both sides going on.

Speaker 1 And, you know, I feel like it might be at a point where Drake's kind of saying, look, I kind of got to stay out of this because he was cool with both of those sides, but I don't think it's going to be able to be squashed.

Speaker 1 And I'm hearing the weekend is part of the whole beef that was going on too. So, yeah, the law gets deep with that, man.
I got, holy crap.

Speaker 1 Put you on some of the Torontology subreddit where you can find out what's going on. I didn't know it was like that in Toronto.
It is, man.

Speaker 1 A lot of people think they're soft and they think the accents, but bro, they get busy in Toronto, man you gotta be careful yeah so when you think of most dangerous cities right now in the hip-hop scene you would put toronto up there in that conversation i would say i would i would put it quite high man because a lot of people are getting hurt out there you know there was a unfortunately there was a you know a guy by the name of dbk that was kind of the street name he was you know quite close to top five impressed with them he ended up losing his life in a shooting recently i mean top five got stabbed in the neck in london you know it's such an unfortunate situation i wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy i'm so glad that he pulled through and what you think that was connected to toronto man allegedly i guess alleged allegedly that's what some people say i i might have said that once or twice and i got a few phone calls so i'm not saying it now but yeah get on tour ontology on reddit and you know you're gonna hear what they're saying over there but yeah i just want to stop the violence man everyone's a talented artist great musicians like we want to just focus on peace and music and positivity but hey it's it's easier said than done man yeah what other cities are are pretty dangerous right now man i mean chicago historically has been one of the most famous cities for its gang warfare you know it's so unfortunate man rest in peace tf bezu he just passed away he was a legendary rapper and kind of street figure that came up with little dirk and king vaughn uh you know i just did a video about him and his crew thf the trigger happy family recently they're really not to be played with so and he was a very very serious guy but unfortunately he just lost his life you know the bronx i think in new york has been quite vicious recently you get a lot of these young guys that they're just getting younger and younger and younger getting into these beefs and uh that you know that's very serious i think a lot of kids are getting dragged into it but i would say realistically number one most dangerous city i've ever covered by far st louis i did a video on the st louis gang war about all the different gangs that beef in St.

Speaker 1 Louis. They've got all kinds of different national gangs, bloods, crips, even Hoovers they've got that have come from LA and they've set up shop in St.
Louis.

Speaker 1 There's like drug distribution networks that go through St. Louis and a lot of gangs have had a real stronghold there.
But I did a video about the gangs of St.

Speaker 1 Louis and there was a really vicious beef between these two crews.

Speaker 1 You know, this crew 57 Floyd and this crew 26 Solway. And, you know, they, all these different gangs are all connected.

Speaker 1 And there was in this video that I covered, there was an insane shootout where about four or five ops ran into each other and everyone shot it out out and everyone died. And so it was like, crap.

Speaker 1 That was a real eye-opener because it's like one of the few situations I've seen where nobody came out on top. Everyone's dead.
You know, each other out.

Speaker 1 Yeah, guys getting shot and then taking another shot before they pass away. And then the police are just turning up to like four or five dead bodies.
Just, I've never seen anything like that, man.

Speaker 1 So St. Louis.
But at the same time, St. Louis have got a lot of popping rappers.
You know, shout out to CTS Lil Wick, 30 Deep Grimy.

Speaker 1 Big Bucks Vaughn, Big Bucks Trey,

Speaker 1 you know, a whole lot of people, man. Hothead Capone,

Speaker 1 Man Man 6. I'm trying to think who I don't want to forget any names, but St.
Louis really popping right now. They've got a lot of really good artists.

Speaker 1 They've got Rambo, a whole bunch of people killing it in St. Louis, man.
C4 Murder.

Speaker 1 So yeah, man, like St. Louis definitely one of the grimiest cities out there, but they're making some great music and they're getting a lot of new attention now.
There's been a few things going on.

Speaker 1 So yeah, it's. But it's serious out there, man.
And, you know, I hope that the violence can stop, man. You know, we're seeing all this stuff about Trump sending National Guard in.

Speaker 1 Who knows if that's going to do anything? But, man, we want music, not murders. Yeah, yeah.
what about London? Because in America, we see headlines of stabbings out in London.

Speaker 1 Is that actually a big problem over there? Yeah, no, it's a big problem, eh? They're trying to tell me Central C is the biggest stepper in London, man.

Speaker 1 But no, I mean, I covered the gang war between, you know, this gang called the 12, 12 World or 12 Anti, and another gang called 1011 or CGM.

Speaker 1 And, you know, the story goes is that kind of once Central C was having some success in the music, he got around these guys from this gang called the 12 and they beef with the 11.

Speaker 1 It's kind of postcode wars. So they bang the gangs that are their postcodes on their zip code, right?

Speaker 1 And obviously, Digger D is probably the most notorious rapper from cgm cgm's a very notorious crew there's been loads of murders that they've been involved with they beef with a whole bunch of different gangs and digger d was in prison he just got out recently and a lot of people are saying he's about to save the rap game in the uk because you know he really been through it he's had real cases you know he had a firearms case where he shot someone in the face fortunately they survived um i think he blinded them and he ended up beating that charge um but he ended up going to jail for a drug importation scheme and it's crazy because he was at the top of his game making millions but he was still tied in with the streets but fortunately he's just come out of prison prison and he's back to music he's been in the studio um but london gets crazy i did another video about a rapper called suspect from active gang and his story is wild so he was in a massive gang war in an area called camden um and sort of the north the north northern side of london and he basically you know he was getting busy with the knives we got these things called zk knives they're called zombie killer knives and they're giant blades with just serrated edges they're super illegal But, you know, the story goes, you know, suspect and his gang, he basically got busy and they killed two people in the gang war.

Speaker 1 And then all of the guys, there was like six of them involved in the murder and they all fled to different countries.

Speaker 1 So one of them tried to go to Egypt, but he got caught trying to get out of the country. Another guy got caught in England.
Suspect and his guy, S. Wavy, they fled to France.

Speaker 1 Then they managed to get to Kenya and he hid out in Kenya for two years and kept making music. But unfortunately, he slipped up and posted a picture of himself in his kitchen and read it.

Speaker 1 And the cops worked out. They could see the oven in the kitchen and the plug sockets.
They said, yo, that's Kenya. No way.
They triangulated where he was and they raided his house in Kenya.

Speaker 1 He got extradited back to England and he ended up getting, I I think, 27 years for murder. But the crazy thing is there was another guy called SY who was involved in that murder.

Speaker 1 He made it to Somalia. There's no extradition treaty.
He's disappeared and has never been seen again. So suspect and S.
Wavy are doing like 27 years in prison. SY got away.

Speaker 1 So that, to my opinion, is one of the craziest stories in the UK. And suspect's very demonic.
He's almost like a King Von of the UK. Very disrespectful music.

Speaker 1 And super young when this was going on, man. You know, these guys are just teenagers when this was going on.

Speaker 1 So, you know, I'm not condoning the murders, but at the same time, these guys are a product of their environment and they really been through hell you know the way that they grow up you know suspect was in foster care he went missing as a child they're saying that he got you know

Speaker 1 taken and sent elsewhere to work on drug distribution networks we got this thing called county lines in the uk where they take young kids and they send them to other places to go and sell drugs and like london's the hub and they go to small towns and you know that ends up leading to violence in these small towns that never really had this kind of you know london-based gangs over there waging war so it's a sad story man i think a lot of people get sucked into the streets and you know they don't realize how deep they're in it until it's too late but yeah the uk is definitely not to be played with either you know there's a lot of violence and uh right now the uk is kind of out of control there's been a lot of a lot of gang wars going on especially south london damn but with your investigative work i feel like you could solve some unsolved murders i've sold a few of my i solved a few of my i'm not gonna lie yeah there's been a few that i've solved kind of before the police i i don't even want to take all the credit because on reddit Ev every major city that's got a drill music and a gang music scene, there's a subreddit for it.

Speaker 1 Sometimes two or three.

Speaker 1 Chicago, they got shy racology uh jacksonville they got duval county in uh uk they got r slash uk drill in toronto they got torontology damn near every city you can think of there's a subreddit and they're solving the murders before the police do in their so i'm part of those communities and i'm quite active in those communities but also like i do my own research i take what people are saying in those communities and then i look at police reports i look at interviews lyrics and try and piece together the truth from that but

Speaker 1 Yeah, those guys on Reddit, man, they really be solving the murders before the police. And sometimes it takes the police the Reddit.
So they see what's going on on the Reddit and then they swoop in.

Speaker 1 No way. Yeah, that's crazy.
Well, you know, it's so sad, man. This guy, THF Bezu, just died yesterday.
And I'm seeing a post on Reddit just now.

Speaker 1 They're saying the guy that did it is already on Instagram talking about he did it. And that's circulating on the Reddit.
So I'm just seeing that. And the police are probably two, three steps behind.

Speaker 1 That is nuts. Yeah.
So crazy. The fact that you're looking at their lyrics is pretty nuts too.
They're kind of self-snitching on themselves sometimes. Bruh, the worst one's Lil Dirk, man.

Speaker 1 People really hate them. People really hate on me for talking about Lil Dirk, but I've said it before.
He's got this album called Loyal Bros.

Speaker 1 It was released just a few months after the murder of Kwando Rondo's cousin, Lil Pab. Shout out to Kundo Rondo got my Quando shirt on today.
Nice.

Speaker 1 Okay, but, you know, within just a few, three, four months of that murder happening, that Dirk's now facing murder for hire charges, he released this album called Loyal Bros for his OTF record label.

Speaker 1 He's got all of his guys. He's got guys that are there on the Conspiracy of Murder to Ire on there, on songs.
They've got a song on there called, You Know That We Did It. I'm serious.

Speaker 1 They've really got, like, there's a bunch of stuff. There's so, so, so many lyrics where he's him and his whole crew are telling them on themselves.
Wow.

Speaker 1 And then people get mad at me for talking about it. So, look, I've said it before.
Look, if you can just not do the murder, that's the best way to start.

Speaker 1 But if you do, for the love of God, man, don't rap about it.

Speaker 1 I'm here after the fact.

Speaker 1 I didn't get in the booth and tell you guys to rap about the murder talking about you know that we did it But yeah, man, you know people do be telling on themselves man, and then they want to cry foul to the media afterwards But it's really not the Reddits fault man and you know I feel like people got to make better decisions and think about the future because Lil Dirk's looking at his face in life now and I don't think the chances are looking too good for him, unfortunately.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's how they got Bobby Smurda, right? Robbie Schmurder had a whole song talking about who caught a body, who was doing selling dope since the fifth grade.

Speaker 1 You know, fortunately, he wasn't implicated personally in a murder, but there were murders in his crew and stuff like that. And

Speaker 1 bro, you just got to be more careful on the mic. Sometimes I think the power of the tongue is very underrated.
People don't realize what they're putting out there, man. So it's really sad.

Speaker 1 But at the end of the day,

Speaker 1 hey, these guys, you're a grown man. If you want to get in the booth and talk about, you know that we did it, that's you.
Yeah. Well, Ross, this has been fun, man.
What are your next videos?

Speaker 1 Where can people find you and everything? Appreciate that, man. Yeah, I'm about to do a big video on Young Dolph.

Speaker 1 Obviously, very unfortunate how young dolph lost his life in memphis there's been a whole bunch of back and forth there's been about two two trials so far you know somebody's been convicted somebody Cernandez Govern was acquitted.

Speaker 1 So, you know, now that the trials happen, I've got a lot of new paperwork. So I'm going to do a big Dolph deep dive with information people have not heard before.
So that's going to be crazy.

Speaker 1 So yeah, check me out, Trap Law Ross on YouTube. I'm being active on my second channel, Trap More Ross.
So I'm just doing daily updates there. I just

Speaker 1 did a reaction to the whole Central C thing. So if you want to know what really happened behind the scenes with that, go check me out on my second channel, Trapmore Ross, Instagram, Trap Law Ross.

Speaker 1 And yeah, I'm just going to keep doing my thing, man. But thank you so much for having me, bro.
I really appreciate that. Yeah, great time, man.
Check them out, guys. Peace.

Speaker 2 I hope you guys are enjoying the show. Please don't forget to like and subscribe.
It helps the show a lot with the algorithm.

Speaker 1 Thank you.