The Hidden Power Moves in Today’s Media Wars | Ronnie Bo DSH#1248

Like, I was really irritated. It's like, bro, come on, man.
What you doing? Then you went beyond. You know what I mean? I'm asking you nicely, bro.
Come on, you know what I mean? And I'll be his ass. You know what I mean? No, I never had those issues.
Like, God is my witness. I've never been harmed in any way in prison.
I never got beat up in prison. All right, Ronnie Bowe here today from Milwaukee.
Flew in today. Thanks for joining us today, man.
Absolutely. It's an honor, Sean.
Yeah. You've been in some drama lately, man.
What happened with Sean Outwood? He took down all your interviews recently. Well, I actually like Sean, man.
It was his staff that actually created the problem. And he didn't go about it the right way to resolve the issue.
So, you know, so now it's an issue between me and Sean, unfortunately. So what did his staff do? Well, initially, when I first, my first interview with Sean Atwood

I don't know if

he considered a dude his moderator

but this dude named Shane

is the one that reached out to me

he came off as

a decent person

at first he seemed very friendly

we was

cordial at first but

when we first went live

for some reason

he asked

Thank you. we was cordial at first but when we first went live for some reason he asked the Sean Idle audience to donate to me right I wasn't aware that they was going to do that and when he asked the audience to donate to me he told the audience to send the contributions to his PayPal and it was live so i didn't want to adjust the issue then so i addressed the issue afterwards and when i addressed the issue uh another one of sean at woods uh staff or whatever uh this guy named ron swanson right we we were all in a uh whatsapp group together me sean ron a few other people uh natanya rubin uh shout out to natanya rubin she's the one who uh diddy shot in the face uh during the incident uh i think it was 99 damn with uh shank uh sean when when he did like 12 years for that yeah dick so did he shot her in the face so she was in a group i see her as a sister but we were all in a group so when i i confronted the issue and it was like bro why did you basically why why why would you tell the audience to send the money to you? And the guy, Ron, he got rude about it.
Like he jumped into the conversation. He got rude and he said some very disrespectful things.
I don't know what type of person they thought I was, but I don't tolerate disrespect. You know what I mean? As you can see, I'm a very respectful person, but I don't tolerate disrespect.
So it got out of hand. And yeah, from there, once it got out of hand, you know, I had to deal with the situation accordingly.
And it just went too far. You know what I mean? so it became like a beef so you know when when you when you beef or war with a person like the art of war teach you to uh know your opponent that's a good book yeah you know you got to know yourself and your opponent so i look dude up and uh the dude ron swanson He got, it's like three documentaries out about him.
Similar to the documentaries that are out about our killing. You know what I mean? And the allegations about Ron Swanson were even worse than the things that are alleged about R.
Kelly. So it's like, damn, it's like, Sean, these are the type of people who you got working for.
And then he knew that me and Jaguar Wright was cool. So he tried to have Jaguar Wright resolve the issue.
And they just went about it the wrong way. In a disrespectful way.
So, you know, when I'm disrespected I disrespect and it got out of hand but damn that's crazy the only way to resolve it sounds like a sit down with him yeah and I tried that but he just went about it the wrong way so at that point you know it's. It's beef.
It's war, you know? Yeah. So it's not your first rodeo with that, right? Yeah.
No, I ain't going to say I like war. I like peace, but you know, it's, it's, it's fun for me.
You know what I mean? I've been in war all my life. Searching for the perfect job can be overwhelming.
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And they actually like losing like terribly. Like if you look at Sean Atwood's views around the time that I was doing business with them, they were succeeding.
But if you look at his views now, it's like he got about a million subscribers and the views is like terrible. and uh you could you could blame me for that

but it's war yeah i mean you you pulled a lot of views on those interviews over 100k on each one right yeah about about that and uh when i asked him why are you taking all my interviews down bro he blinded on Diddy he said well

Diddy Oh, come on, man. Like, I don't know if I just look that stupid.
I probably do, but I'm not that stupid. So it's like, bro, like my content wasn't about Diddy.
My content was about Jay-Z and R. Kelly.
So you really going to run with it? And he told Jaguar Wright the same thing. And it's like.
Did he take down Jaguar's interviews? A couple. Oh, okay.
So maybe it was a lawsuit. But her, no.
But hers was, she was speaking about Diddy. I didn't say much about Diddy, if anything.
I don't remember saying anything about Diddy. You know what I mean? Yeah.
Well, Jaguar went on Pierce Morgan and made it take that one down. Did you see that? Yeah, but that was about Jay-Z.
Yeah. And I understand like like jay-z reached out to well he had his attorneys reach out to pierce morgan just like he had his attorneys reach out to my uh probation officer yeah you had to take down some stuff for him right take down i didn't take down this oh really no like the podcast that that's the thing like i i want to i want want to say this, Sean, like you seem like a straightforward person, honest person.
Like I have done many interviews, right? Some of those interviews never came out because I'm a truth speaker. And when you speak the truth.
You know, sometimes that ruffle the wrong feathers and then it's like, I't put this out i mean like even me and you like this was supposed to happen months ago right yeah but i mean you fell back because you said you told uh matthew cox or whatever that jay-z reached out to you and it's you didn't want to do it yeah i got and desist. I've never got one before for the pod.
Yeah, but that was a cease and desist against me, not you. But I understood, like, people don't want them to do it, that you run a legitimate business, a successful business, and you're not willing to jeopardize that for Ronnie Bowe.
You don't know Ronnie Bowe. I understood that.
Like my situation with other podcasters is a little bit deeper. Like they want to control narratives.
You know what I mean? Like if you want the truth, let me give you the truth and I can only give you my truth. You know what I mean? Like for example, when I was incarcerated with R.
Kelly, right? Yeah. Okay.
A female who I was dealing with at the time, she posted something on her social media saying that Ronnie Bowe was locked up with R. Kelly and it went viral.
And somehow TMZ got the news. To be exact, this news reporter that worked for TMZ named Jacob Jacob Wiserman reached out to her and say, could you get us in contact with Ronnie Boat? So she made the connection.
And when I talked to Jacob Wiserman, I gave my truth and he wanted to he didn't want the truth. He wanted me to say bad things about R.
Kelly.

I mean, a lot of people could say bad things about R. Kelly.
I didn't I didn't have anything bad to say about him. And it was like he was basically saying, well, we could do the interview and get you on TMZ.
But like the audience want to hear more so that R. Kelly is getting beat up, or he getting great.
Yeah, well, TMZ drives off that stuff. Yeah, they want to hear bad, and I had nothing bad to say.
So they never put the interview out, because I didn't have anything bad to say about the man, you know what I'm saying? you got to understand like most of the time that I was locked up where R. Kelly was doing a COVID uh coronavirus pandemic right and at that time like you got to understand that we didn't know what y'all was going through in the community you know I'm saying so imagine was going through in prison.
Like, if y'all thought the world was coming to an end, just imagine how we felt. You know what I mean? Like, it was days that they didn't feed us.
Yeah. You know what I mean? It was I mean, it was bad in there, bro.
So, like, R. Kelly probably, when he was venting to me, he probably felt like this these was his last words like that's how we felt in there all of us and and that that uh caused inmates to bond with each other you know i'm saying so despite what anybody else think about r kelly like they don't know my experiences they don't they don't know that i was a book author 12 years before i met r ke Kelly.
And I guess you can say I was a conspiracy theorist because I didn't really have proof behind my theories. But meeting R.
Kelly and speak with him, it's like he confirmed a lot of my theories. You know what I mean? Yeah.
I didn't care with the media. I didn't care about what people were saying in the Surviving R.
Kelly documentaries. I didn't care about none of that.
I wanted to hear his side of the story. I wanted to hear his perspective on things.
And that was it. And I even wanted to write a book on his side of the story.
Everybody else heard everybody else's side of the story. I'm locked up with you, bro.
You know what I'm saying? I want to put your side of the story out. And, uh, that's what I took in.
Like what he felt like the real problem was and why, uh, these documentaries came out, you know what I mean? And, you know, I got a, I got a lot of insight from R. Kelly.
Yeah. The media portrayed him in a terrible manner.
I wonder how much of that was true. Yeah.
And that's another thing because like I'm like a protege of Malcolm X. Like I study everything about Malcolm X and Malcolm X said that the most dangerous and the most powerful weapon that the United States government has is the media.
And he said it's because the media has the power to make the innocent look guilty and to make the guilty look innocent. So, you know, taking that into consideration, I didn't want to just write R.
Kelly off as guilty. Yeah.
I mean, you're seeing that with Trump, with Tate. You know, the media is just attacking these guys.
Not just that, but I saw that Mike Tyson, Kobe Bryant, Tupac, Michael Jackson, all these influential black figures were accused of doing sexual crimes with people. You know what I mean? And it's just like, why all of them? You know what I mean? Like, it just didn't sit right with me.
So, I didn't really feed into what the media was saying. You know, I wanted to hear his side of the story.
Do you think there's any truth with these parties, elite parties as far as who like the Illuminati just like the Diddy stuff like you hear these parties and these after all you're talking about I thought you was talking about like the but yeah yeah it's of course you know you got to think like like I had a time in my life like before mainstream knew about Ronnie Bow I was huge time in my life, like before mainstream knew about Ronnie Bow, I was huge locally in my city. And when you when you get a certain type of power, you feel like you could just do anything.
You know what I'm saying? You see how these females gravitate towards you. You see how people gravitate towards you.
You feel like you can have your weight. And if you don't got no integrity that may get the best of you and like i got integrity so i didn't let the power make me treat people uh like they were any less than me but when people like diddy it don't seem like diddy has any integrity so you got to think when you got all this power, you know what I mean? I just, I just published a new book called darkest fantasy, darkest fantasies of the richest freaks.
Right. Now, when you got a lot of money and power, like all type of stuff go through your mind.
Like I could do this. I could do that.
You know what I mean? If you don't got no integrity, you're going to do some of the most ignoble things because you just feel like you can do whatever you want to do and get away with it. I feel like you get desensitized to normal things when you have that much money and power too.
You got to keep finding crazier and crazier things to do. Absolutely.
Yeah. Absolutely.
Yeah. So you see these guys and a lot of these rich guys start going to these freaky parties or whatever, right? It's wild.
What's going on with Kanye, man? People think he's crazy, but you think he's actually crazy like that or you think he's just marketing? I think Kanye is a genius. And I think the media is just afraid of people who become so influential.
Like when you become so influential that you could. Like impact the thoughts and actions of the population.
Right. And you know, you know, no politician and then like that.
And they can't control you. Now, if they can control you, it's cool.
You know what I mean? Like, okay, he got this influence. We can control him.
So he gone stay aligned with this agenda. But people like Kanye West is like, you can't control people like Kanye West or people like me, like Ronnie Bow.
Like, like, you know what I mean? Like we, we now, we all that, you know what I mean? So you got to try to make people like that seem crazy. So the population don't follow them.
You got to think like, okay, they named Jay-Z a billionaire, right? Kanye West, uh, how he was worth more billions than Jay-Z, but they couldn't control Kanye. So it's like if Kanye is this successful and Jay-Z is this successful, we want people to follow Jay-Z, but Kanye is more successful.
So they're going to gravitate towards him. They don't want that, bro.
You know what I mean?

They want the person that they

can control. So even

Kanye was explaining, like, I've been

a billionaire before Jay-Z,

but they didn't want to name me no billionaire

because they didn't want people looking up to me.

They didn't want people to

follow me. You know what I mean?

Yeah, that's nuts. How many of these

A-list celebrities you think are

controlled in some way?

Oh,

Thank you. Follow me.
You know what I mean? Yeah, that's nuts. How many of these A-list celebrities you think are controlled in some way? The majority.
And those who ain't, they eventually get in line. You know what I mean? Even with me, I'm not as big as Kanye West or Jay-Z but I'm becoming very influential and they starting to see that I'm the type of person that can't be controlled you know what I mean so I get death threats and it's been attempts damn like recently holy recently.
Holy crap. My good friend is actually in the studio with us and people would think I'm exaggerating but she's aware because when the incident happened I told her about the attempt on my life.
You know people would think you lying or exaggerating, but this stuff really go on, bro. Like, when you become influential, like, and they can't control you, they either want to, it's either incarcerate or assassinate.
Damn, that's scary, dude. Yeah.
Makes you really wonder, like, what people sacrifice to get where they're at, right? What so? You see all these people that people idolize. They look up to and you're like, wow, how did they get there? You know? Yeah.
They had to conform in some way. Yeah.
Because being independent in the music industry, it's really hard to make it, right? Yeah. I don't know many artists that have really blown up being independent not many and and i'm independent and i'm gonna stay independent and see like like people like me like i really study people like dr king and malcolm x and i look at a core message.
And the day before Dr. King was assassinated,

he had a message to the population. Right.
And he was telling people we need to withdraw economically from the establishments that are funding these movements that are against us for example like like people people see these glasses right here right they they automatically think they cartiers right now this is a actually a milwaukee brand uh called diamantes right and uh the owners you know uh One of the owners that is Eric, he gave me these glasses. Right.
Yeah. And he gave me these glasses because I've been wearing Cartiers all my life.
I'm one of the pioneers of wearing Cartiers. You know, I mean, like a lot of the rappers these days, they brag about wearing Cartiers.
But, you know, Cartier is a billion dollar brand, but they don't contribute nothing to my community, my culture. You know what I mean? However, Diamante created a better brand, a better quality, uh, you know, I wear, you know what I mean? And they willing to sponsor me, They willing to help me.
So why would I continue to wear Cartier, you know, just because they cute or whatever, you know, I look just as cute in Diamante's. They actually a better brand and they willing to back my movement.
You know what I mean? And Dr. King was saying like companies like Pepsi, Coca-Cola,

all these other

like being other

corporations,

you know, a lot of people in the

hip-hop culture, the black culture, whatever

you want to consider it, they wear

Gucci, Louis

Vuitton, and they

brag about wearing these

brands, you know what I mean? These brands don't donate, contribute nothing to our community. You know what I mean? A hundred percent.
You know, and we have to withdraw from that and either build our own brands or support the brands that support us. You know what I mean? Yeah.
A lot of these designer brands are getting exposed right now on social media because they make the bags for like 20 bucks and they sell the Gucci bag or whatever for thousands. It's crazy.
Their margins are insane. They're ripping people off.
I mean, it's great marketing. You got to give them up.
Yeah. Like, if you look at most of my interviews, this right here, this right here, this, this is my brand.

No,

I mean,

because,

and I do this because I understand branding.

Like I could get on here and wear Gucci or Louis Vuitton,

but,

um,

why,

you know what I mean?

Like to impress who,

you know what I mean?

Like I'm trying to build something myself for, you know,

I'm trying to establish generational wealth for myself, my people,

my culture, my community.

You know what I mean?

And if I support Louis Vuitton, Gucci, and all that, like,

where's the money going?

I'm spending all this money buying y'all brand to impress who?

You know what I mean?

And that money is not going back into our community and people need to understand the significance of that bro yeah when i was younger i used to think that i used to buy stuff watches and stuff but as i've gotten older it matters less to me material objects i'd rather wear a digital social hour hoodie you know i mean i love it bro i appreciate cool with you. You know what I mean? I'll be representing a brand that I'm associated with.
You know what I mean? Love it. Amazon took down one of your books, huh? What happened with that? Well, it's a backup book.
The book, Challenging the Illuminati, is the one that you're referring to, right? Yeah. And it's a lot of information in that book that they don't want the population, they don't want the public to know about.
A lot of the hidden messages from people, again, like Malcolm X, Dr. King, people like that, people, again, they forget the core messages that these people was assassinated for.
So I put a lot of that information in that book. And of course, they assassinated people for this information.
So to see that Ronnie Bow coming from out of nowhere and like delineating this information in a way that people can understand, it's like this book is a threat. And they took it down, but I pushed to get it back up.
And last time I checked, which was yesterday, it's back on. Oh, wow.
Did they give you a reason when they took it down or just no reason at all? No, they didn't even respond. I just noticed that it was back up.
And see, the thing about the book, I don't write these books for money. And a prime example of that is the interview I did with Matthew Cox.
Again, shout out to Matthew Cox because he is the reason why I'm here with you today. Yeah, shout out to Matt.
Yeah. Crazy story.
He's got a crazy story. Yeah, that's my dude, man.
I got a lot of love and respect for Matt but one of the interviews I did

with him went viral right and

in that interview I gave out

my personal phone number one of these

this number to be

exact matter of fact I'm

this number ring too much is on D&D

right from that interview

it still get too many

calls too many takes I can't keep up

with so for now I'm gonna give

out this number it's

414-587-1919. And those who call that number, I just published a new book and I'm going to give everybody that book for free.
If they share this interview, if they subscribe to Digital Social Hour, if they like it, you know what I mean? Any of that, any engagement, you know what I mean? Screenshot it to me. Show me.
You know, I'm going to give it to y'all for free. You know what I mean? And that's what I did on Matthew Cox show.
I just want people to have the knowledge, bro. You know what I mean? Like, if they contribute and give back, thank you.
They keep me from going back to the streets. No, I sold drugs all my life and I've been locked up all my life for selling drugs.
I do not want to go back to that. So if they buy the books, thank God.
Thank God it's somebody, you know what I'm saying? Buying my books and keeping me out the streets. But it's not about that.
I want people to have the knowledge, you knowledge you know I mean because like money can go so far but but if I doubt a day and let's say I got 10 million dollars put up like I can't control what happened with that money but with this knowledge that I'm putting out it's gonna inspire people it's gonna enlighten people and it's going to guide people to be able to do

what I'm doing or

what Malcolm H did, what Dr.

King did, you know, Fred Hampton,

people like that. Damn, that's powerful,

man. That's cool.
Yeah, I know you told

your kids you're not going to go back to the streets anymore.

I saw another interview you did. No, I can't.

And I promised her.

I love that. I promised my

mom. Was that after your last

time in prison?

I can't do that to them no more

I'm going to go But when the consequences catch up with you, it's not about you. You're not just hurting yourself.
You know what I'm saying? You're leaving. If you got kids, you're leaving your kids out there without a father.
You know what I'm saying? And that puts them in a position to go through the same thing you went through. And I'm trying to end that cycle.
You know what I mean? Yeah. Damn.
How long were you with R. Kelly in prison? Well, I went to MCC Chicago.
I turned myself in June 23rd, 2019. He ended up getting indicted like July or August.
It was a month or two later, right? Yeah. So we both got indicted in the northern district, Illinois, which is Chicago.
So, you know, when you get indicted, you catch a Fed case out there. You know, everybody goes to MCC Chicago.
You know, the people who go anywhere else is the people who get ran out of there or, you know. Stuff like that.
But for the most part, you go to MCC Chicago. So that's just where we both ended up at.
He got a lot of time, right? I don't know the exact years he got. I think he got 30 in the New York and Diamond and he got like another 30 in the Chicago.
Holy crap. And they stack those? Yeah.
Jeez. Unfortunately.
But I know people probably looking at me like, why is this dude saying unfortunately? Because R. Kelly Pulse deserved it, but I don't know if he deserved it.
I don't know if he did that. Maybe dude is a creep.
But that's not the R. Kelly I met, so I can't speak from that point of view.
I mean, you spent a a lot of time with him so people that are talking online didn't meet him face to face and spend years with him right no no and then like I'm a good judge of character you know I mean like you could like God just gave me this gift like I could see a, know him for five minutes and just know this person is full of crap or this person seemed like a real person. You know what I mean? Yeah.
And R. Kelly actually seemed like a real person, bro.
And looking at his past, like, he didn't have the best upbringing. So even if he is a terrible person, like, I mean, I can't justify that by his upbringing, but everybody don't get through that type of mud and come out with no stains on them.
Right. I mean, so I think he all right, dude know i mean and i think uh just like like i look at recently bro uh are you familiar with what just happened or do you know angie stone no okay she just died right before she died she was speaking out about how universal records the music industry owes her a lot of money you know i mean and you look at prince michael jackson uh all the uh whitney houston all these people who probably created a catalog that's worth billions.
You know what I mean? And they barely getting by. Eventually, you know, you look at your circumstances and you can't take care of your loved ones.
And it's like, wow, I'm supposed to be worth billions. Like, where's all my money? And then you get to the point you want to stand up and try to fight for your money and it's like why when they stand up why when r kelly wanted his money why was he indicted you know i mean why when angie stone tried to fight for her money she died why when whitney houston wanted her money she died why when prince star talking about this talking about this stuff? You know, he died.
You know what I mean? Like, eventually people got to start reading between all those lines and see that it's something going on behind the scenes. That's a lot of coincidences you just named, right? Yeah, and the coincidences eventually add up to a conspiracy.
You know what I mean? Right. And yeah.
And a lot of those are coming out to be true these days. Conspiracies.
Used to be crazy for even saying that word 10, 15 years ago. Yeah.
Yeah. But now, I mean, follow the money, right? Money don't lie.
You follow the money trail, you find out what's going on. Yeah.
Yeah. You got to thinklly catalog was worth 1.2 billion damn not much and he a person that big you know he performed at the olympics he he wrote for michael jackson he has some of the biggest hits i believe i can fly and you know we can name many others like this dude basically had to go on tour just to take care of himself and his people damn you know i mean when he should have been sitting on 1.2 billion dollars and when he realized that he was worth that and uh tried to petition to get his worth you know now all these allegations like if he'd been doing all you know, maybe he did.
But why y'all didn't put all that out 20 years ago when y'all said it happened? You know what I mean? Yeah. Why y'all wait till he start petitioning for his money to start saying he did all these terrible things? He must have signed a bad deal, huh? Record deal.
Yeah, he did. And kelly not the not to talk down on him but he he not the uh wisest guy you know and these music contracts even if you are the wisest guy you know that the terminology is very very confusing so you read this stuff you think it mean one thing and it mean other you know i mean like it's it's crazy and i know because you know uh i was a part of the industry you know i mean like and i'm a businessman and i study all aspects and i had to realize that like it was a book i read when i was incarcerated called secrets to negotiating a music contract and it explained like how uh like for example tlc i don't know if you're familiar with them but heard of them they uh like damn near went diamond and uh it was a group of three yeah and uh And they paid them $12,000, like, total, which they split, which was like, what, $4,000 apiece? And they were supposed to probably get maybe $4 million apiece? Holy crap.
No, I mean, but the contracts say this and that, and you think it mean you're going get your worth and it it mean that uh you are forever in debt to us and you are our slave for the rest of your life when you uh look up you know the terminology of those contracts man so signing to a label is not the best move these days um no i mean they things are changing you know people are starting to realize that it's best to be independent but some people don't don't have a business mind and they went like for example if if a label tell you we're gonna give you a million dollars that sound big if i tell my mama right now i just signed a million dollar deal she's gonna be happy like wow you got a million dollars. That sounds big.
If I tell my mama right now, I just signed a million dollar deal, she's going to be happy. Like, wow, you got a million dollars.
But the million dollars is actually a loan, right? It's a loan. And then how they work the million dollars is like, okay, we gave you this million dollar loan.
It seemed like a deal. Like, this is advanced.
Like, this go in your your pocket but this million dollars is a budget and they control the budget so they could they could shoot a video for you right and they could pay ten thousand for the video until you we pay a hundred thousand dollars for this video so they already just plays you out of a hundred thousand dollars because that hundred thousand dollars takes away from your budget and they only pay ten thousand and then while you're on tour like even if you go to mcdonald's this all come out your budget you know i mean yeah and so at the end of the day they basically say, we spent this million dollars on you when they probably only spent $50,000. They inflate everything.
Yeah. And then you owe a million dollars for what only costs $50,000.
Then you got to pay that million dollars back. And then your income is like cents on a dollar like for let's say you let's say for each record you get uh ten dollars right you might get nine cent out of that ten dollars right so that nine cent when ten dollars times a,000 is a million, right? You got to look at that nine cent times 100,000, which is probably only, what, 90,000 or something like that? Yeah.
My mouth ain't that. Or is it 90,000? Yeah.
So even if you made the million dollars back, they telling you that that's's only $90,000. And I know even with me explaining this clearly, it sounds very confusing.
But that's how it go. Yeah.
Yeah. They probably word everything in a certain way in the contract.
That makes it look nice and good. Yeah.
I don't see a lot of artists happy about their contracts these days. No, they don't know no better.
It's a lot of people with a lot of talent and they just want to make it. When some of these big names, like you hear a Roc Nation or Universal want to sign, you excited.
You get to tell all your family and friends, this major label want to sign. And it sound like the best thing to do, but it's not.
Nah, Lil Uzi Vert, man. He signed a 360.
He hasn't dropped the song in what, seven years now? Yeah. Crazy.
I don't follow that dude much. Yeah, you probably like the older school stuff, right? No, it's just some stuff be weird.
That's an understatement with him, man. Yeah.
Well, there's that theory that the CIA infiltrated the hip hop industry. Have you seen that? Yeah.
With all the programming and the music. It's active in all government operations.
Yeah. They say they've infiltrated and they're programming the music to make the youth think in a certain way absolutely and uh as i explained in a book challenging the illuminati uh music is very very powerful and influential like you you familiar with napoleon here right yeah okay uh law of attraction uh some people will can consider it wishful thinking but you know uh it talks about repetition right like if you tell yourself every day uh i'm a millionaire i'm gonna be a millionaire like you start attracting these things to like music is repetition like the courses repetition people repeat these certain things and that stuff get in your mind and when i get in your mind you know uh it's it's it's a process like it's your program then it's your thoughts and then your thoughts lead to your emotions and your emotions you know you you act out of your emotions and then when you make the action, there's a consequence.
And you trace this all the way back to your program, you know, the way you was raised to believe or taught to believe. And a lot of people in the community, you know, their program is based on music.
Even me, I'm a victim of that like I grew up on music that taught that B words females ain't nothing so I started treating females like that like in my early days I grew up on music that taught that that glorified selling drugs and I actually started selling drugs when i was 11 damn man and that's young like like a lot of the youth right now they listen to music that glorify uh killing people so they feel like it's cool to be able to say you kill somebody and they feel like that that makes them like they are special. You know what I mean?

Like they somebody if they could say

that they killed somebody. This is what the music

teaches them. You know what I mean? So

I think in that way

it's going to lead to

emotion and that emotion is going to lead to action

and that action is going to lead to a consequence

and that consequence is going to be

either death or jail.

You know what I mean? 100%. A lot of violent music these days, man.
Blows my mind. And that consequence is going to be either death or jail.

100%. A lot of violent music these days, man.

Yeah.

Blows my mind.

Yeah.

Yeah, that stuff is dangerous, especially with repetition, like you're saying.

If you listen to that every day, you're going to start believing every word.

Yeah.

Yeah, people don't realize that.

Music is super powerful.

Yeah.

And the government know that.

The CIA, they definitely know that.

100%. I used to listen to a lot of rap, but I had to cut back, man.
Only before basketball now, if I want to get angry. Yeah.
You know, it does a good job at that. Yeah.
Get you mad before the game? Yeah, sometimes that... You can channel it.
Yeah, you can channel... You can even channel emotions that are considered negative emotions into some positive like for example let's say working out like when i first started working out i was in prison and uh you know uh the weightlifters would tell me like uh before you push think about something that make you mad you know i mean so, think about something that make you mad.

You know what I mean?

So I think about something that make me mad

and then push

and I will be able to push.

You know what I mean?

Yeah.

So you can channel it

that way,

but you can also channel it

in ways that are,

you know,

negative.

20%.

Were people going at you

at prison?

Were people trying to pick on you? No. I never really had that problem.
Really? You didn't get in any fights or anything? Yeah, but that's why I never had that problem because like when I first started going to prison, I was young, bro. You know what I mean? And it was a lot of frustration and pain and anger built up.
So anything like my first fight, right? We, we all sitting at the table eating and this one dude was just smacking. You know what I'm saying? Sometimes that irritates you.
So I tell him like, bro, like, bro, stop smacking like that, bro. You know what like you can eat with your mouth you know i'm saying he started doing it on purpose so i got mad and i uh i can't cuss right no you can so i beat his ass right i was mad though right and and when you when you do something like that in front of everybody, people start looking like, dude, don't play with dude.
You know what I mean? So I established that reputation early on in jail. Like, I didn't play at all.
And then, like, people already knew me from the street. Yeah.
Yeah, I heard that's a thing. When you get to prison, you're supposed to fight right away right no you're on post too but you can't let nobody can't let nobody try you because if you let one person try you and people you know everybody looking at this you know what i'm saying yeah dude get away with that now dude think he can try you and that person think he can try you so you eventually gonna have to fight you know what i'm saying so it's like the first like i didn't do it because of that like i was really irritated and it's like bro come on man what you're doing then you you you you went beyond you know i mean i'm actually nicely bro come on and i'll be his ass you know what i mean and um it was a few other incidents like that, but no, I never had those issues.
Like, God is my witness. I've never been harmed in any way in prison.
I never got beat up in prison. I guess some of that you can't even, I don't want to sound like a tough guy, like don't discredit it to me, but

I'm a man of respect, you know what I mean?

And in prison, it's

about respect, you know what I mean?

If you respect people, they respect you,

you know what I mean? Disrespect people,

it's

a consequence, you know what I mean? But

no, I never had problems

though like that. That makes sense.
How old

were you the first time you went to prison? jeez 12 years old man how long were you in that in juvenile prisons worse like I've been to the fair state I've been to all prisons you know what I mean juvenile prison worse than adult prison cause you get less privileges as a juvenile you know ironically but yeah it's it was terrible and then being that young being taken away from your family your mama your grandma your siblings it it damaged you mentally and emotionally oh for sure because you're growing up in that environment yeah damn how Damn. How long were you in there at that age? I did a couple years as a juvenile.
Most of the time I was in a group home, though. Like the judge came to the conclusion that I didn't have parental guidance, so he put me in a group home.
And ironically, the group home that I was in, the staff the staff members were one of them was a crackhead damn and uh i was still a crack dealer when he found out i was a crack dealer like i could have my way like look bro you take this i'm finna go have fun and do me you know all right dude i I ain't gonna say nothing, go fun you know i mean but uh i mean the my my culture pretty pretty screwed up you know yeah it's it's really like no guidance you know i mean like and then the people who was trying to stand up like during the days of I got to keep mentioning people like Malcolm X and Dr. King during during the days.

there was an FBI director named J. Edgar Hoover, right?

And he put in a FBI directive that said, we have to neutralize any one of these individuals who display the power to unify and electrify the rest of them, meaning the population of African-Americans, right? So if they see a leader rise who having a positive impact on a population the culture whatever and he could guide them in a in a right direction did neutralized by them men incarcerate or assassinate well that's what they was doing And, you know, after that directive was put in, Malcolm X got assassinated.

Dr. King got assassinated Fred Hampton people like Larry Hoover was incarcerated like anybody who uh display leadership abilities who could like unify and electrify the rest of the culture was either uh incarcerated or assassinated and they still have uh they they still implement those directives today you know i'm saying and if it's discreet you know i mean it it it shows you know i mean like anytime somebody like me become too influential so i'm having happy.
They shadow ban you or censor you, right? And I'm being shadow banned like crazy, bro. Like the last interview I did with Matthew Cox, right? Yeah.
It did 300,000 views in one day, right? Damn. And then the next day, it just declined like from out of nowhere.
Like you got to think if if if if anything does 300,000 views in one day. Right.
That mean it's a lot of people sharing this and engaging. Right.
Yep. And then it gets to the point like even if you look this interview up, you can't find it.
You know what I'm saying? You got to go directly to Matthew Cox's page and look at all his interviews and then oh, they go to interview with Ronnie Bowe right there. I was going to tell you that because when I was preparing for this episode, I googled your name and then podcast and it doesn't pop up.
I have to go on Matthew's page. See? So only his audience is aware of that episode.
I'm glad you said it because a lot of people would think, dude, this is conspiracy theory. He's making up reasons why the interview didn't go viral.
It did go viral. 300,000 in one day.
That's viral. But then- These days, yeah.
That ain't easy. There's not a lot of guests that can pull those numbers these days.
Yeah. Yeah.
Then now you can't find it unless you go to Matthew Cockpage and dig through the interviews. That's shadow banning.
That's when I post these clips I probably can't even mention your name because what they do is they censor your name and some of them even censor with AI your face I don't know if you're at that level yet but if they see your face on a video they'll censor the views bro I'm so glad that you spoke on that because I've been trying to tell people that and they act like it's just you just making up stuff but no I know this stuff man I'm in it too I've been shot up in myself when I have uncertain guests like if you look at the interviews that went viral with Matthew Cox he didn't put my name in the subject title right like I'm gonna advise you don't put Ronnie Bo't, please don't put Ronnie Bow in the title because they, it's not going to go too far. They probably got automation set up so as soon as they see that on a video, oh, shadowbam that one.
Absolutely. Crazy, man.
That's just because you're exposing the truth. That's scary.
Absolutely. Yeah, that's tough, man.
When did that start happening for you? I initially went viral in early 2023.

And I went viral on a podcast that only had 800 subscribers.

Not 800,000 subscribers. 800, you know what I mean?

And it did like a half a million in a very, very short time.

And then I guess when I saw that this dude,onnie bow has a lot of intellectual books out that uh can influence the population to uh uprise or whatever you know i mean it's like we can't have it i mean uh any any anything you put ronnie bow in on youtube is shadow banned. And then, not only that, I had a lot of followers on Instagram, Facebook, and stuff like that.
When I first went viral, bro, the next day, my right-handed guy, all my pages got taken away the same day damn so later i built a following on facebook and all that again and recently this was just like a couple months ago my pages got taken away again and that's the real reason why i started giving out my personal number because it's like okay i'm having impact people trying to follow me you know i mean like what what else i'm gonna do like like i'm i gotta give out my number again yeah we'll link in the video to 414-587-1919 call me like but another thing about that like if you're not a real person don't call me please don't like don't waste my time

because

like

it's this one dude

he uh

it's two dudes

one of them

is like a LGBTQ

and I don't got nothing

against the LGBTQ community

but

they don't like people like me

you know what I mean

like I stand on my manhood

and then the other dude

like

he had a

a history of

playing

funneling

with kids

right

yeah

Thank you. like me, you know what I mean? Like, I stand on my manhood.
And then the other dude, like, he had a history of playing, funneling with kids, right? Yeah. These two dudes start creating videos to bash me, right? Saying bad things about me.
So a lot of the people that was calling me started turning against me. Damn.
And that's good. I want those type of people to turn against me because if I have a movement and y'all will go against me for something that the lowest of life would say about me, like people who plan with kids could say something bad about a stand up guy like me and y'all turn against me.
I don't want that type of support. So please, audience audience don't call my phone if you're not a real person like i don't got time for that i don't want to talk to you you know i mean if you're real you know let's work let's um try to create some significant positive change in the world in the community and i'm willing to work with anybody, I don't care if you got a podcast, you only got 100 subscribers.
You know, I do an interview with you for free. I'm giving my books out for free.
Like, bro, when I gave out my number, I was getting 1,000 to 1,500 calls and takes per day, right? Holy And like I'm one person like I got one phone so I was trying to everybody's calling about the free ebook. I'm trying to send everybody the free ebook.
Like some people if they don't get the ebook in ten minutes they cussing me up. You're a scammer and it's like You could automate that by the way I'll teach you you could set up a number where as soon as someone texts it sends them the ebook so you don't have to manually do it man thank god I met you because I don't want people to go against me because of like if you go against me and it's for a valid reason cool I can accept that but don't go against me because it's a thousand people calling me and texting me and by the time i look at your text uh it's so far down the list yeah i used to have that issue because i host networking events and at first only 20 people came but now i have over a thousand at each one but i used to manually text every attendee and then it got to the point where it was taking eight hours a day to text everyone.
So I had to set that shit up, man. It'll be a game changer for you.
But the calls you'll still have to do on your own. You go phone calls.
You gonna be my best friend. Yeah, I'll teach you the business stuff, man.
As long as you provide value, that's the hard part. People can't provide value, so then they can't monet monetize but it sounds like you've been through a lot and you can teach people absolutely you know and that's what i'm here for like i'm i'm i'm i'm a man of god for real bro like i i stand on this like that that lady over there she a very important powerful beautiful person and she uh she was one of the people who called the number wow she didn't she didn't get a response from me for like a month damn i mean like people gotta understand like if i didn't respond to her it's not that i'm ignoring people like if i knew this person was reaching out to me I'd have been you know text back or call but it's so many people I can't keep up with with everybody you know I mean but I don't know I just I got a good heart I I try to show love to everybody people just got to be more understanding.
Like, I'm really one person.

And people steal from that Matthew Cox interview.

They steal to this day, bro.

Like, they just watched it.

And they calling or texting like it just came out.

Yeah.

Like, where the free e-book at?

Crazy.

That's how I found out about you, that interview.

Yeah.

Yeah, that one blew up, man.

Yeah. We got to get you on X.

That's the free speech platform,

Twitter.

Yeah.

Are you on there yet?

No,

I'm a,

I'm a need.

I'm a,

yeah,

let's get you on there,

man.

Cause you could say whatever you want on there.

You won't get banned or censored.

One thing,

one thing I want to speak about though,

is,

um,

the rituals,

right.

And the,

uh,

music industry.

And there's also rituals like in the streets right like they have informants they have people who work for the government to set up other drug dealers and they got to do rituals like if you ain't set up nobody in a year then it's like bro what is you doing Spirk Fudge you know what I mean that's crazy in the music industry

like rituals like if you ain't set up nobody in a year then it's like bro what is what is you doing

squirt fuzz you know that's crazy uh in the music industry like sometimes people really have to sacrifice a little one and then if you do it once you think you good and then they want to establish that trust again and make sure you still align with the agenda so they come back to you and hey, well, you sacrificed your mom.

Now we want your son or your daughter and it's like damn like hearty sacrifice my mommy you know i mean now i gotta it really go on bro it it really go on and even even in prison like i gotta really humble myself to admit this because a lot of people won't admit this right but they do humiliation rituals in prison like everybody don't get sexually assaulted or nothing like that like in the sense that you would think but everybody has to when you get processed like like, they tell you

to squat,

right?

Yeah.

And cough

and spread your cheeks,

like,

literally.

That's humiliation, bro.

Like,

if I tell you,

Sean,

go over there,

get naked,

turn around,

squat,

and spread your cheeks,

how would you feel about that?

I feel really vulnerable,

yeah.

Humiliated, right?

Yeah,

humiliated for sure.

They do that to all of us. I don't care if you Big Mish, Larry Hoover, John Gotti.

I don't care how tough you think you is.

They do that to everybody.

Are you naked during that?

Yes.

They make you get butt naked and literally spread your cheeks and squat.

That's humiliated.

And if you don't do it, you go under the jail.

You know what I mean? Really? You go to ISL? Straight to ISL? Yes. Holy crap.
Yes. And you can't call nobody.
You can't do nothing. So these rituals go on on all levels, like in the streets, in prison, in the industry.
And when you get like in a position where everybody looking up to you whether you a big time musician or a actor or whatever they want to make sure you went in line with the agenda because you got a majority of the population looking up to you so if you just come out and do a Dr. King speech and all these people looking up to you you know what I mean and you tell them to do

something that's against the agenda then

you're a threat you know what I mean so they

to eliminate

that threat they want to make sure

that you

are aligned with the agenda

by certain rituals you know

what I mean whether it's

a humiliation ritual or

you sacrifice

a little one like

Thank you. to buy certain rituals you know i mean whether it's a humiliation ritual or you sacrifice a little one like like this stuff really this stuff really go on and people even people who who did it before sometimes like they won't out and uh r kelly for example like i don't want to say too much about him because I'm not the one who want to expose him.

But he had to do rituals.

And then he got to the point where it's like,

man, this is enough.

I can't keep doing this.

And then, you know, it's consequences for that. Then you got people like Jay-Z, right?

Like, they know the influence that Jay-Z had has to this day on the culture and even like you got people like Yo Gotti Lil Dirk who like up and coming Jay-Z's and they look up to Jay-Z because they want to reach that status you know what I mean and they know that I could control all these people by just controlling one if i can control jay-z and all these people look up to jay-z then it's less work i don't have to put so much effort in controlling everybody as long as i control jay-z and i can make him a billionaire and i can make sure he's aligned with the most desired woman in the culture than you know yeah that's

that's

simple I can make him a billionaire and I can make sure he's aligned with the most desired woman in the culture. Yeah, that seemed pretty planned out, right? That relationship.
Beyonce? Yeah. Yeah.
You know, they tried it initially with Aaliyah, but Aaliyah was more so attracted to Dame Dash. You know what I mean? And she wasn't trying to be with the agenda.
And the agenda, it was a lot of money behind the agenda and not just that, like, the influence. Like, when they had Aaliyah working under R.
Kelly, right, her album was called age ain't nothing but a number and she was like 14 or 15 and then they do this publicity stunt to where they put out the r kelly married aliyah right and uh this is my truth this this is coming from my conversations where Kelly, like, not what nobody else got to say in the media or none of that. So according to R.
Kelly, it was a publicity stunt. He never married her or none of that.
But it was a it was a agenda. you know what I mean like they, they wanted the 14 year olds to feel like it's okay to have sex with older men and to act grown.
And that, that destabilizes the, uh, the household, you know what I mean? Like when, when you a kid and you having kids, you can't really raise a kid properly. Yeah.
You know what I mean? Like, you not even fully developed mentally yet. So how are you going to raise a child and develop them the right way? You know what I mean? Like, the agenda is well thought out and planned, bro.
And the strategies that they use are very effective, and

it takes a wise person

to be able to see through

what they're trying to do. Yeah.

Yeah, I've heard of those rituals, man. You see the naked

one where, like, people go naked to the award shows?

No, but...

You haven't seen that one? I think it was The Rock.

You showed up naked. No,

I recently saw at the

Grammys Kanye made his wife get naked. I Get naked.
You never know. The media, man.
They try to paint him in such a bad light. Yeah.
The streets the same way, bro. Some of these things that I speak about will seem very outrageous, book because i didn't want to work for the government to be informing and set up other people like my integrity wouldn't let me do that yeah so you know i was framed in the federal indictment that i really didn't do uh my brother was killed by uh police officers you know i mean which i can't prove but in a way i can prove and they they eventually gonna have to address that because see how they work like if they got you as an informant right like they don't just got you out here setting people up but they could tell you to go kill somebody and they're gonna let you get get away with it.
And, you know, you could do that.

Damn.

That's what they did with my brother and not just that. My nephew, who I raised, he locked up for a murder right now that he didn't do.
And the only evidence they had was from an informant that said he committed this murder. Wow.
And they do they do they doing all this stuff to try to just destroy me mentally and emotionally, you know what I mean? So I can't do what I'm doing, you know what I mean? All because I wouldn't work for the government, you know what I mean? And it's crazy. I put out a book 12 years ago called The Holy Trap Scriptures, right? The state of Wisconsin.
You know I'm from Milwaukee, Wisconsin. They banned the book and the whole state of Wisconsin.
Holy crap. I didn't know they could do that.
Yeah. They go to the extremes when they can't control you and align you with the agenda.
Yeah. No telling what they do, bro.
That's nuts. I wonder how many informants they have it's a lot that's that's that's another reason why i won't go back to selling drugs because the majority of these dudes out here is either informants or if they get in a real tough situation they will be coming for oh yeah especially at the level you were at you know they don't have integrity, bro.
They not strong mentally. If they tell you,

look,

if you don't tell on Ronnie Bo,

you're going to get life

or stuff like that,

you're never going to see

your girlfriend again.

These dudes can't handle that

mentally or emotionally

and they going to fold.

You know what I mean?

Like,

it's only a few of us

who not going to fold.

Yeah.

Is that how they got you,

informants?

Yeah.

Like, people close to me. Damn.
messed up yeah people people real close to me uh and the informants even lie and i even if you look at my case uh in the eastern district of wisconsin you can look it up on cAP case number 17 CV 1192 right I sued

the DEA before

they indicted me really and this

DEA agent

was discovered

as a

racist and he was discovered

as somebody who

had framed other people in

cases not just me you know what I mean

and I my indictment

was like malicious prosecution. Like you indict me because I sued you and because I want to work for you.
You know what I mean? And now I'm caught up in all this. My freedom gone.
For a minute I was on the run. Couldn't go see my son when I wanted to see him.
Now I'm locked up my my son hurt because his dad ain't around i really didn't commit this crime you know i mean and y'all y'all did this because i wouldn't work for y'all and they they go to the extreme bro and that's just the street so the music industry you know music is a lot more influential so just imagine what they do in that industry. I mean, music is a lot more influential.

So just imagine what they do in that industry.

I mean, you're starting to see it.

Justin Bieber's looking crazy these days, right?

He looks like he's mentally distraught over something.

Yeah, and it's probably because of what everybody know he did with Diddy.

And, you know, he was a young man.

Like, man, Lord have he was a young man like man

Lord have mercy on that young man

his mind and his heart

because uh

he was taking advantage of bro

and they used people like

Diddy and let them do anything

to anybody until

you fall out of line and start

thinking you uh bigger than

the people who put you in position

like Diddy did

some uh

Thank you. you fall out of the line and start thinking you are bigger than the people who put you in position.
Like Diddy did some bad things to not just Justin Bieber, not just Usher, but a lot of people. And he shot a lady in the face who I see as my sister.
But even with that, back to the Sean Atwood thingwood thing right like sean atwood most of my interviews he wanted me to talk bad about r kelly jay-z diddy right yeah and okay yeah i had some bad things to say about jay-z uh even even diddy i didn't speak because I don't know much about Diddy. You know what I mean? But it's like you want me to, you want all my interviews to be directed towards tearing down other black men, right? And then I find out that Sean Atwood was part of a white supremacist organization, right? He admitted that in an interview, right? And I know how this go in the feds, right? When you go to the feds, like me, I was with the GDs, right? I grew up GDs, so that was the right thing to do.
You I mean Sean Atwood he said he tried to make it seem like he had to join him you didn't have to join him and then even when you join him like you locked up for years around people who who expressing all this hatred towards a certain group of people and you want to get out and act like that is not weighing on your mind right you know i mean so i tested sean atwood uh when i was trying to resolve things and i tried to do something positive for the black community you know i tried to push peace and i told him during a live interview like look bro i don't want to talk about jay-z or diddy or none of them no more like yeah they creeps or whatever you know what I mean but I said enough about them like I don't you're not finna dictate my content and focus it on that when I got a lot of positive things to talk about yeah let's talk about some positive things you know what I'm saying that we could do in the black community and they won with, you know what I'm saying, that we could do in the black community. And they won with that, you know what I mean? Well, from his point of view, he probably gets way less views, you know? Yeah.
And Sean, he's suffering right now. You got to look at his views lately.
Yeah. Yeah, you seem to hold a grudge on people you don't mess with.
No, it's not just that, but they tried to belittle me. And I treat everybody with respect.
I don't care how great, big, or none of that. I'm going to treat everybody.
I'm going to treat the person you consider the bum on the street begging for change with the same love and respect that I treat Donald Trump. You know what I mean? And that's just me.
You know what I mean? But when I see a person trying to belittle me, when I know the integrity and the love I got in my heart, then I got to make an example and stand up for the little guys and show that you're not going be able to treat everybody that you see as a little guy like a little guy because now it's like I got them by the balls. This channel that you worked so long to establish is in jeopardy.
At any minute, I got an email list of like 10,000 people, right? If I email all them people and say, report Sean at Wood's channel, his channel would be taken down instantly within days, you know what I mean? Yeah. But I ain't gonna do that yet, man.
You know what I mean? Yeah. No, I ain't gonna do that yet, man.
If he, if he, if he come correct and he realized that, you know, that, that he got himself in a situation with a person he underestimated and he humbled himself and come correct, then I'll let him keep his channel. I might have to set up that boxing pay-per-view, man.
You and him? Did you see the text message I sent him when I said apologize? No, I didn't see that. You told him to apologize to you? I said to you.
So apologies mean a lot to you. Yeah, go to your WhatsApp because that phone did.
It's probably in one of them. It's not sure.
Yeah, it's probably older, but you told him to apologize though? We could say that that for another time but he instantly went on his page and apologized and said I'm sorry Ronnie Boll but if you rewind it to how arrogant they was and how they was trying to belittle me you would see that it was something that happened in between that to make them realize, like, let's stop playing with this dude. He, he probably not as small as we would like to believe.
Yeah. I mean, but, shout out to Sean Atwood, man.
Just get it together, bro. Let you keep your page, man.
I got a cheer for my fellow Sean if We share the same name, man. No, you are spelled better.

Let's go.

S-E-A-N.

That's the superior way to spell it.

You got a way better soul,

way better personality, man.

Sean, I will.

He still, you know,

he was with those white supremacists so long,

he still think that way.

You can't be a part of an organization for years and then get out and not think. Yeah, that just doesn't leave you overnight, right? Not.
Yeah. Makes sense, man.
Anything else you got? Um, well, yeah, I got a book coming out soon. I got a lot of books out.
They got to just look up Ronnie Bo, but I want to my sister, my dear sister, Jaguar Wright, been saying I owe her an apology, right? And she was supposed to come here. Did she respond? What'd she say? We get to a party tomorrow.
I'm going to let you have that tomorrow. I'm probably going to be back in Milwaukee, but she was supposed to be here today, but my dear sister, one, I want to congratulate her for the award that she won, the Freedom Award that she got at Mar-a-Lago.
I didn't know that. Congrats.
Yeah, congratulations to her for that. But she said I owe her an apology, and I really didn't think that I owe her an apology.
she stated it publicly i'm gonna address it publicly but i'm gonna say uh jack i love you this this conflict ain't for us it's not for us you know and uh with the influence that you have and the influence that i have i think that it's best for us to like collaborate like you are a very talented woman outside of the public speaking and I'm a very talented guy and I think we should collaborate on the album and if we do that we can go on tour and during the tour while we perform our music we could do our public speaking and spread positive messages, you know, to the community, if not just nationally, but probably internationally. You know what I mean? Because we got we both got fans in London.
I don't know if you saw some of the messages I sent you, but I had people from the london uh calling the police saying make sure ronnie boy is protected you know provide him with police escort services you know as i suggested you know because i get real attempts uh assassination attempts on my life you know it's no telling but um jack i'm not finna do this with you. I love you, sis, and I think you should really consider this proposition.
I love that, man. Yeah.
And she said she'll come tomorrow. That's for you, Sean.
Damn. I'm probably going to leave, but I'm going to make sure.
Oh, she moved her flight back. That's a good girlfriend, man.
We'll do a part two tomorrow with her. Yeah, that...
I hope she accepts your apology, man. I don't know what the beef is, but it sounds like you really value her relationship.
No, I'm not apologizing, though. I love...
But I don't know what to apologize about. You know what I mean? I'm just saying...
So she's mad at you right now? I don't know. She said publicly and Jag got both.
She got two of my numbers, right? Yeah. So she could have just called or text and said, you owe me apology.
But being that she said it publicly, then I have to address it publicly. Maybe she got asked on the spot about you and she did

not respond, you know? Yeah.

Who knows? But it sounds like you two

go back and you got a really tight relationship.

Yeah. It's cool, dude.

Anything else you want to close off with? We'll do

another part tomorrow.

Let's try to hit her.

Hit it?

He's ready, so shit, I'm gonna hit it.

I'm going to hit it. They're going to be able to hear it though.

Yeah, we'll throw it on the video.

Okay.

Yeah.

I was in that courtroom alone So fed off of food and clothes Back in the studio doing songs Fuck my ex, I'm moving on Ask the streets who they rooting for Nigga, you a beau I was homeless, had no house key Talk Caroline, baby, don't doubt me

Can I sleep on your couch please for about a week While I race G's just taking these thoughts out to E-frame By the fares nobody believe me I'm Ronnie Bowe, I'm Milwaukee's Yeezy Yeah, I'm the one that got R. Kelly off PC Had to fall back from the GD's But TP still plugged obviously, am I him possibly? Where's with Jay-Z wanna kill me or sozzy me?

Jaguar Rice say I owe her an apology if I'm your brother. He's a TP.
Still plug, obviously. Am I him possibly? What else would Jay-Z want to kill me or silence me?

Jack wore a right, say I owe an apology.

If I'm your brother, why you let him make me out of mockery?

Yeah.

Okay, perfect.

All right, guys.

We'll check out Ronnie's socials below, and we'll link his Amazon if you want to check

out his books and your phone number.

Thanks for coming on, and we'll do a part two tomorrow, man.

Yeah, put the link in the description.

All the links in the description, will do all right guys check them out