UFO Whistleblower EXPOSES Secret Alien Tech Programs | Randy Anderson DSH #1240

Speaker 1 And you'll see too a lot of people just throw it like oh it's it's evil it's demonic or whatever it may be it may be but I I mean we don't know that you know yeah we shouldn't just categorize it I mean supposedly the government is there's like part of the military that's shooting this down and I I would think that'd be a terrible idea if these if they're that much more advanced than us wow I didn't know the government was doing that

Speaker 2 All right guys, we got Randy Anderson here today, UFO whistleblower. Thanks for taking this leap, man.
This is a big step for you, right? Coming out with this story.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I was pretty scared to do that, but I mean, not scared as far as like what I was worried about the threat, but just in my community, it's quiet professionals. Yeah.

Speaker 1 So I was not ready for the amount of, you know, publicity it got.

Speaker 2 I mean, yeah, you held this for 10 years, right? It's a long time just pontificating on if I should release this or not. Yeah.

Speaker 2 What was the final, I guess, straw that made you want to come out with this?

Speaker 1 All the other guys that were coming out with stuff and taking the hit and doing the right thing and I felt like it was the right thing to do.

Speaker 1 Mike Carrera is a buddy of mine. He came out with a crazy story that he, when he was in the Marine Corps, he came across a craft in the jungle.

Speaker 1 And,

Speaker 1 you know, guys like that were coming out, and I felt like, why should I protect my little piece of the story?

Speaker 1 You know, I'd been out of the military for a bit and felt like I could at least share what I had experienced.

Speaker 2 Yeah, that's a good point. You don't want to be the first guy.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you want to be the first, and and I didn't want to, you know, and I knew there was a lot of crazier stuff coming out, too. Yeah.
So I figured I might as well get it in there.

Speaker 1 Like the Jake Barber stuff that just came out recently.

Speaker 2 I didn't see that.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah. So they actually are summoning in craft.
What? Yeah.

Speaker 2 So that's some Stephen Greer stuff.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's tied into similar stuff, but they do it for the government. So they were doing it for the government for years.
Whoa. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Yeah, because I know people could summon it and they appear at a distance, but not close up like you're describing. Yeah, no,

Speaker 1 so they have what's called,

Speaker 1 I forget what they call it, psionic teams. Yeah.
And these guys will just basically remote view or out-of-body experience

Speaker 1 into the craft and then fly the craft. Wow.
So they have a guy that does that and then the actual team.

Speaker 2 Dude, that's nuts.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's all coming out this year. So I started.

Speaker 2 When you were in the Greek Bureau, did they teach you astral projection and remote viewing? No. So that's a CIA thing, right?

Speaker 1 I think it's more of like an agency thing and like more like specific units that do that type of work.

Speaker 1 So there are units like in, I think, in some of the higher tier units that do that kind of stuff.

Speaker 2 Were you aware that that was a thing when you were serving? Oh, you were? Yes. Okay.
Because I know some people don't even believe that exists.

Speaker 1 No, it's there.

Speaker 2 You saw some proof of it back then? Yes.

Speaker 2 That's cool.

Speaker 2 So for people that don't know what you encountered, could you briefly explain?

Speaker 1 Yeah, so my story was I was at a weapons training class course in Crane, Indiana. It's a pretty standard course for somebody with my job, 18 Bravo, a weapons sergeant, to go to.

Speaker 1 And we were there doing some

Speaker 1 working on a Mark 44, which is a mini gun, and a couple other weapon systems and new iterations to SOCOM weapons that we were learning about, and some armorer classes on some of the other guns.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 1 after one day after class, about halfway, maybe midpoint of the course, which I think is two weeks,

Speaker 1 towards the end of the first week, we got invited to

Speaker 1 check out some foreign weapons.

Speaker 1 And it was after a class we got brought to another building to go see what they were, what were some higher classification level of weapons. And they brought us down to a underground,

Speaker 1 like a lower level, and showed us foreign technology, some of the foreign weapons, which I can't talk about.

Speaker 1 And, you know, I caught a lot of heat on this when I when I did the first podcast because people were like, well, how can you talk about the foreign weapons, but not the, or how can you talk about the alien tech but not the foreign weapons?

Speaker 1 And the reason is because that's not protected. So I already went and officially reported this stuff to the government.

Speaker 1 And that I'm protected to report only on specifically like anything related to UAP or NHI. Got it.

Speaker 2 So when you say foreign weapons, are you talking about alien weapons?

Speaker 1 The first thing they showed us was just foreign weapons, like adversary weapons. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And some of the advancements and different things that they were using that was the technology was a little bit more advanced than I think most people would expect.

Speaker 1 So we looked at some of that and they were kind of reverse engineering some of that just to understand enemy capability.

Speaker 1 And then after that, we went through another secure, like a level of security, and that's when

Speaker 1 they showed us the off-world

Speaker 2 stuff. How many guys were with you?

Speaker 1 Just one other guy. There were two of the cadre, like one of the guys that worked in that facility and one of the

Speaker 1 private contractors who basically acted as our cadre. One of those guys.

Speaker 1 with the guy that worked, I think, in the underground facility. They were with us and me and one other guy from the class.
Wow.

Speaker 2 so there was a lot of trust in you in both of you guys.

Speaker 1 And, you know, we've gone, we talked about this, and in hindsight, it's hard for me to really determine what the purpose was.

Speaker 1 You know, there's some theory that say that they do this type of thing to see if you have a reaction to

Speaker 1 the material or whatever.

Speaker 1 I don't know if that's the case. It did feel to me kind of like it was...
a little bit of a setup.

Speaker 2 Like a test almost.

Speaker 1 Almost. But I can't confirm that.
And I never got any other feedback otherwise. So I don't know.

Speaker 2 What happened to the other guy?

Speaker 1 Nothing. He just was there experiencing it with me.

Speaker 1 We were staying in a barracks there at the, every night we'd go back to our barracks and me and him chatted pretty late into the night that night about what we had seen. But

Speaker 1 we were specifically told not to tell other classmates about it.

Speaker 2 Got it.

Speaker 1 So we just kind of, we chatted about it. And, I mean, it kind of shattered both of our...

Speaker 1 worldviews. I bet it did.
Yeah, at the time, because we're like, if this is real, what does it mean? And so it was intense.

Speaker 1 It was a lot to take in, especially because before that, I had no exposure, anything like that. Right.

Speaker 1 And I had a very basic belief that maybe there's stuff out there, but nothing concrete or to say that there were things visiting us.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I think to see it with your own eyes is different than theorizing about it. For sure.
So you basically saw a metallic sphere, hierographic symbols on it. How big was the sphere?

Speaker 1 Yeah, so the sphere didn't have, I'm sorry. So the sphere didn't have the symbols.

Speaker 1 The sphere was like a basketball-sized metallic object that was just like hovering above the podium that it was I don't know if that was

Speaker 1 part of the the actual device didn't look like it looked like it was its own thing but it was just levitating above that podium and yeah it it just it was the way I would describe it is it it had like a

Speaker 1 a very

Speaker 1 alien looking

Speaker 1 sheen to it I mean it it looked

Speaker 1 It looked like something I had never seen before, you know, it just stood out as very odd.

Speaker 2 And it was just floating on its own?

Speaker 1 It was just hovering above that podium and it wasn't connected to an outlet or anything no wow not that i saw that's crazy right i wonder what that does yeah i don't know they didn't tell you anything about it no they and that is the other weird thing is they weren't there to to describe these objects they said a little bit of stuff about them uh and that was it they didn't go into any detail i think they were they were saying that they had they had some of this stuff and i don't know if they were talking specifically about these objects or just in general yeah but they said that they had had stuff since the 1940s.

Speaker 1 Wow. They had recovered.
So, and that they were trying to understand how all this, all the different techniques.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Because Roswell was

Speaker 2 a while ago, right? Yeah. Was that like

Speaker 2 the 40s? Yeah. So they recovered some stuff from that then.
Seems like, yeah.

Speaker 1 Wow. And another thing I heard, too, after coming out with this and talking about the hieroglyphic symbols on the second device,

Speaker 1 is that there were those same symbols on the Roswell craft, supposedly, and a couple other craft that they have had,

Speaker 1 government documents showing those same hieroglyphs.

Speaker 2 I'd be curious if those hieroglyphs matched up to some of the ancient ones that people find in like Egypt and stuff.

Speaker 1 It didn't look to me, and I'm pretty, I like watching a lot of like history,

Speaker 1 ancient cultures and stuff, but it didn't look like anything I'd seen.

Speaker 1 I'd say it looked closer to maybe like

Speaker 1 runes,

Speaker 1 kind of close to

Speaker 1 like Viking cultures, type of symbols. It looked

Speaker 1 Wow.

Speaker 2 So what did you end up, I guess, theorizing on the situation?

Speaker 1 Well, you know, I caught a lot of heat again when I described going down through the secured facility. And then when we walked down the hall to the second area where the devices were,

Speaker 1 they had a placard in the wall that said off-world technology, which struck me as odd, which is why I brought it up.

Speaker 1 I thought that was a weird thing to, like, why would they put that up?

Speaker 1 But it was up, you know, and whether it was there to elicit a response from us or to just see how we'd react or if that's just how they did I know people were saying that why would they have a sign saying that if it's so secret well you got to understand once you get underground in this facility you've already gone through two three checkpoints so you're you're in as deep as you already have all the clearances to get to where you're at so like anybody that would be down there seeing that sign would be cleared to see it and the tech how common are these underground bases you think i i don't know.

Speaker 1 I know there are a few, at least that I know of.

Speaker 1 That was the first one I'd ever been to.

Speaker 2 Because you hear about obviously the big ones, right? Area 51 or whatever. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And I also work out there at the test site. Not actually on Area if you want, but I work out at the test site pretty regularly.
Oh, yeah.

Speaker 2 That's in the area?

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, just different areas out there. We do some

Speaker 1 work for a private contracting, work under the DOEs,

Speaker 2 guys out there. Do you see anything strange out there?

Speaker 1 All the time.

Speaker 1 I bet. All the time.

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Speaker 1 we just last time we were there we saw another green orb those are the most common uh green orbs green orbs yeah what do you think those are i have no idea they look like plasma related something but this one was strange man it it and two of the guys so once the podcast that i did last came out uh everybody that i work with out there obviously seen it and they were kind of busting my chops about it.

Speaker 1 But they had two of the guys that are real skeptical and all that stuff had never seen anything, didn't believe anything I was saying. They saw that orb the last time we were out there.

Speaker 1 And they just, they're all, they're going down the rabbit hole now looking into stuff.

Speaker 2 There's something, man. I mean, I don't know if you know the Bledso's.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I've heard about that, yeah.

Speaker 2 So I had the son on the podcast.

Speaker 1 Oh, cool.

Speaker 2 Yeah, and then he took me stargazing that night. We went out to the desert.

Speaker 2 We saw like two shooting stars. I thought that was crazy.
Yeah. I've never seen that in like years.
Yeah. And he kind of like was trying to summon stuff.

Speaker 1 Yeah. His dad can do it, right? His dad can do it.

Speaker 2 He's still learning it. So I want to do it again with his dad, but it's interesting, man.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Well, you got to check into these guys, too. Jake Barber guy, those guys that are doing the

Speaker 1 that project that I was telling you about. They're summoning stuff in the daytime.
Yeah, it's wild.

Speaker 2 Apparently, your intentions have to be good, though, right?

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's supposedly,

Speaker 1 who would have thought? But yeah, that all ties into it. Like, having good intentions and clearing your mind.

Speaker 2 Because they won't talk to you if you're like a dude.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 2 So it's like, it's telepathy almost, right?

Speaker 1 That's what it seems like. I mean, yeah.

Speaker 2 And there's a lot of theories that aliens have that they don't talk in like words like English or whatever.

Speaker 1 They use telepathic communication. Through the mind.
That's what it seems like, yeah. I mean, like, like I said,

Speaker 1 this is all new to me when I just, those, seeing those two items kind of sent me down the rabbit hole to dig into all this stuff and learn more about it. Yeah.

Speaker 1 So I've learned a lot more over the years just from my own private investigation.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 2 And you've talked to a couple people that have had similar experiences, right?

Speaker 1 Now, yeah, especially more recently, just that I've been involved with the whistleblower stuff, I've gotten lumped into some of these groups of people and I've heard some of the craziest stories.

Speaker 1 And another thing that's kind of interesting, man, that's a part of this is how often I see UFOs now. Really? All the time.
Whoa. Yeah, so I got 10 videos on my phone I can show you.
Holy crap.

Speaker 2 Can we throw one up on the video? On the YouTube?

Speaker 1 Sure. Yeah.
Okay. Yeah, I'll send them all to you.

Speaker 1 But I'll go outside my house sometimes and I'll have the urge to look up and I'll look up and see something.

Speaker 2 Does it feel nefarious at all or is it

Speaker 1 pleasant?

Speaker 2 That's good. Because I never know, like, because the government pays them in a certain way, right? Yeah.
So you never know what to believe.

Speaker 1 Well, yeah, and it's funny because a lot of the craft that people see as UFOs, I know some of them are R-Tech, just because I've seen it.

Speaker 2 Right, the drone stuff in Jersey. That looked like R-Tech.

Speaker 1 A lot of that. A lot of it is, yeah.
Any of this plasma stuff and all that, the orbs and that's I don't know about all that.

Speaker 2 Yeah, so what's going on with the plasma stuff? I keep hearing that recently.

Speaker 1 Yeah, man, I don't know. I'm not too keyed in on all that.
I'm just kind of learning about it like everyone else, but it seems to be one of the more common aspects of the phenomenon.

Speaker 2 Do you think aliens are just walking amongst us right now?

Speaker 1 I think that's very possible. Wow.

Speaker 2 I mean, there are theories that they could shape shift and stuff. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I mean, there's a whole, you know, you get, that's another rabbit hole you can go.

Speaker 1 It gets pretty deep. But, I mean,

Speaker 1 how would we know like if they're that much more advanced than us and I've heard it described as like

Speaker 1 do we consider the thoughts of insects or ants an anthill you know we we we're only so much further advanced than life on this planet these beings could be billions of years more advanced than us that that gaps even further so like they may not even it may not even be a thought to them to consider what we're thinking.

Speaker 2 Wow. Yeah, we could be ants to them.

Speaker 1 Less than ants to them.

Speaker 2 That's crazy to think about. But you're right.
We could be primitive compared to some of these aliens. It wouldn't surprise me.

Speaker 1 Yeah, especially if they're like zipping through dimensions. I mean, we're still trying to figure out how to not kill each other.

Speaker 2 We're still trying to get back to the moon, man.

Speaker 2 It's been a while.

Speaker 2 There's theories out there on the moon, too. There's all sorts of theories.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's crazy, man.

Speaker 2 How much backlash did you get from coming out of this?

Speaker 1 More than I expected. Really? Yeah, more than I expected, man, because, like I said,

Speaker 1 I didn't want to gain anything from this.

Speaker 1 I wasn't looking to promote anything or do it. I just was like, hey, you know, I'll tell my story.
And I thought it was going to add to the maybe eventual solution to this or disclosure of this. And

Speaker 1 yeah, I was surprised by how much heat I caught just from the trolls on the internet and people saying I'm a psyop.

Speaker 1 And then, you know, just telling the story about this simple thing, like that sign being on the wall,

Speaker 1 which was a weird thing that stood out to me too. But a lot of people brought that up as like, why would that be there? Like, that's a good question.
That's why I asked it.

Speaker 2 I think there's a lot of skepticism because it challenges a lot of beliefs as well. Because this goes against probably a lot of religion.

Speaker 1 That's a good point.

Speaker 2 You know, a lot of big religions do not believe in aliens.

Speaker 1 Well, a lot of people, and then you'll see too, like, a lot of people just throw it, like, oh, it's evil.

Speaker 2 It's demonic or whatever.

Speaker 1 And it may be. It may be.
But I mean, we don't know that.

Speaker 1 We shouldn't just categorize it. I mean, supposedly the government is there's like part of the military that's shooting the shit down.
And

Speaker 2 I would think that'd be a terrible idea if these if they're that much more advanced than us wow I didn't know the government was doing that yeah if they're bringing them down then well I guess that's protocol right if they see an unidentified object they're supposed to take it down but still that that wouldn't be a good enemy to have no

Speaker 1 if they can manipulate gravity on any level then they can eliminate a planet with no problem yeah I mean the government's pretty much admitted at this point aliens exist right yeah and they and they have and that's they also change all the terms on us and I I I think there's a a reason for that, too.

Speaker 1 Like, they call it, instead of aliens, they call it NHI. And instead of UFOs, it's UAP.
And I think they're doing a lot of that for specific reasons.

Speaker 1 And I think it's because

Speaker 1 they're not what we thought they were. So to categorize these beings as E.T., that may be false.

Speaker 2 Right. What's NHI?

Speaker 1 Non-human intelligence.

Speaker 2 Oh, wow. They're saying that's what they are.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I noticed they've been using UAP a lot too.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and UAP as well.

Speaker 1 Because they're unidentified, anomalous phenomenon. They're They're going in and out of the oceans, in and out of mountainsides, solid rock.
So they're doing things that

Speaker 1 defy all kinds of logic and physics.

Speaker 2 I have heard about these mountain bases, man. That's wild to me.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I've heard about them, too.

Speaker 1 I've seen some stuff related to that, but.

Speaker 2 I've heard mountain. I've heard they come out of the ocean.
Yep. I've heard a lot are in the ocean, apparently.

Speaker 1 Yeah, some of the Navy guys will tell you stories about them just being out on the ship and they'll be just

Speaker 1 whole fleets of them it's crazy how much people like have encounters but no one's been able to piece it together yet I mean I and it's probably partly from the cover-up I think that's kind of helped keep it in that unknown category right you know but I think that's changing hopefully and that's also part of the reason why I wanted to tell my story because I think it's time for

Speaker 1 like if that's

Speaker 1 If that's where we're headed to a disclosure type scenario, then maybe

Speaker 1 if we could help move that ball down a little further you know a little faster maybe that's good for humanity overall I wonder how deep this cover-up goes because obviously the US does it but do you think other countries are doing it too they have to be so they're all in bed together then they have they have to be because these things are everywhere wow you know there's no

Speaker 2 talking to the guys that are on the on the retrieval teams they're they're all over the world recovering these things no way so there's retrieval teams yes And they're just designed to recover these shape, these whatever they are, UAPs.

Speaker 1 Yep, you have a military component that does it. You have components of the private sector that do it, that hire their own private military contractors to do it.
Wow.

Speaker 1 And so you actually have, supposedly, and I haven't personally seen this, but supposedly from the guys that have done it,

Speaker 1 they'll get in gunfights over this

Speaker 1 craft, yeah.

Speaker 2 It's that valuable.

Speaker 1 Wow.

Speaker 2 Have you talked to anyone on these teams? Yes. What'd they say?

Speaker 1 Just that

Speaker 1 that's what's happened, that they've gotten into gunfights over holy material.

Speaker 1 Yeah. And American on American.
what

Speaker 2 so I wonder what's actually in these ships then

Speaker 1 I don't know if it's the tech maybe it's just keeping the cover up but the technology is probably part of it man because if it if that's if it's doing what it looks like it's doing and I can't confirm that myself but if it's manipulating gravity that means potentially time travel is possible that means that potentially

Speaker 1 free energy, right?

Speaker 1 I mean, if they're able to do that in a craft that size and generate that much power, power, then that's somehow tapping into the zero-point energy field and meaning that our energy crisis on the planet would be over overnight.

Speaker 2 Yeah. And that would put a lot of people out of business.

Speaker 1 Exactly. That would destroy the economy, but it would also potentially create abundance for everyone, like end hunger.
And, you know what I mean? A lot of

Speaker 1 the problems of the world could probably be solved by... us just accepting that this is a reality and moving forward with it, you know, and dealing with the fallout.

Speaker 2 I've also heard they could have some advanced healing technology too.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I've heard about that too, like the med beds.

Speaker 2 Yeah, the med beds. Yep.
And they live super long, right?

Speaker 1 Yeah, I'm actually going to talk to one of those guys in Colorado.

Speaker 1 He's on the Gaia program and he does one of those shows. But he was directly involved with some of the medical stuff.
Yeah. So I'm actually going to be talking with him next month.

Speaker 2 Wow. So he knows about those beds.

Speaker 1 Yeah, the med beds and they have some technology that uses sound.

Speaker 2 Sound healing.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that they run over your body and it's supposed to cure all kinds of stuff.

Speaker 2 Well, sound healing is no joke.

Speaker 1 Right. It's legit, right? Yeah, it's legit.

Speaker 2 You look into these studies, it's wild, man. I've done some sound healing, actually.
Have you?

Speaker 1 Yeah. Did you do it here locally?

Speaker 2 Yeah, there's like every time there's a full moon, there's sound healing. Any city you live in, there's people that do it.
Oh, that's cool. And they just play sound balls while you.

Speaker 1 Yeah, dude.

Speaker 1 All this stuff, man, to me would have been like completely taboo.

Speaker 1 And now I'm like completely, I meditate.

Speaker 2 It's

Speaker 1 changed a lot of stuff for me.

Speaker 2 Well, that's a lot of people in the military, not to like generalize, but feel like they're kind of closed off, right?

Speaker 1 Sure, yeah. I mean,

Speaker 1 it's just the culture, right?

Speaker 1 So, you know, for me, what the real big change was when

Speaker 1 I got out of the military, I was dealing with PTSD. I was also a fireman for 20 years for the city of Las Vegas.
And so I was dealing with PTSD and

Speaker 1 got addicted to opiates, pain meds, and was struggling with that.

Speaker 1 getting clean off all that and learning how to meditate and that kind of was like an ego death experience for me yeah which Which kind of led me to get back into all this other type of, like you're talking about sound healing.

Speaker 1 I was doing

Speaker 1 the deprivation chambers where you can use the flow tanks. Yeah, flow tanks.

Speaker 2 I've done that. Super cool, right?

Speaker 1 Amazing.

Speaker 2 I'll hallucinate in those. Yeah, absolutely.
It's nuts. Yeah, they're super cool, man.
Those are cool. There's a lot of natural healing methods, man, these days.
It's exciting.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's kind of what I like to do, too, man, is like try to get more of the military culture. to accept a lot of these things because they help me so much.

Speaker 1 You know, in the meditation, like I would start sleeping again. I used to have nightmares every night.

Speaker 1 Don't have nightmares anymore. Damn.
And I didn't, it wasn't any medication or anything that did it. It was just meditation and learning how to reprogram your thoughts.

Speaker 1 A lot of the Joe Dispenser stuff. And I mean, it helped me tremendously more than any counseling or medication ever did.

Speaker 2 You were on a ton of meds, I bet.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 How many? First.

Speaker 1 I was maybe like 10 different meds. Holy

Speaker 1 that's crazy. Something to put you to sleep, something to wake you up, something to keep your anxiety.

Speaker 2 And that's normal for veterans, right? Yeah. That's terrible.

Speaker 1 i mean you guys are probably the most traumatized group of people and they're putting you on more meds right that doesn't do anything for that yeah and then you so you're most in in our country our most common uh trauma related jobs you got the first responder community so police fire yeah you know uh ems uh your er hospital staffs um your 911 operator uh call centers and then your your military guys

Speaker 1 so those are that's the community of people that are struggling with those things i could definitely see that man heavily medicated high divorce rates high rates in those communities you know damn did it affect your relationships oh yeah yeah got divorced after the military went like i said through all the struggles with addiction and so it was it was a long road but ultimately um

Speaker 2 you know it it got me into all these other healing methods and changed my life so and now you can help veterans it's cool yeah it is cool yeah it's did you ever try uh psychedelics oh yeah yeah i heard that's been great for veterans actually.

Speaker 1 Psilocybin, micro-dose and psilocybin was very helpful, especially early on in this process.

Speaker 1 And then DMT, I had a couple experiences with that that were really helpful. Did some retreats.

Speaker 2 Did you see aliens on the DMT?

Speaker 1 Not aliens so much. It was more,

Speaker 1 I don't know what they were, man. They were beings for sure, but I don't know if I'd classify them as aliens.
They seemed to know who I was, at least in the experience.

Speaker 2 There's some theories that that's actually you from the future. That's wild.
Isn't that nuts?

Speaker 1 Have you ever, have you ever?

Speaker 2 I haven't done DMT, but almost everyone that does it reports what you're talking about. Yeah.

Speaker 2 And it's crazy.

Speaker 1 So here's a cool story, man. First time I did DMT, I was still on opiates.
And I tried it for the first time. And I went down this tunnel.
And there was these three real tall beings.

Speaker 1 They started talking to me like telepathically. And they said, you can't see this realm until you're clean.
Your body's too corrupted.

Speaker 1 And they sent me back down the tunnel and I went through the trip. And I was like, whoa, that was weird.
So I I ended up getting clean. And then I was like, I'm going to try DMT again.
And I did.

Speaker 1 And I went through that tunnel and came out. And there was a big celebration and like this park.

Speaker 2 No way.

Speaker 1 Yeah. And so it was like they welcomed me into this

Speaker 2 world.

Speaker 1 That was my experience.

Speaker 2 Holy crap.

Speaker 2 Dude, I wonder what that realm is.

Speaker 1 You know, I don't know, man. There's, there's, so, have you heard the new thing out too about it? No.
There's this group of guys that were

Speaker 1 studying.

Speaker 1 You heard the double slit experiment? Okay.

Speaker 1 So it's related to that they they split a beam of uh a laser and in the split beam they can see only when they're on dmt and they have done this with several groups control groups now um

Speaker 1 in that beam the split beam of the laser they could see the hieroglyphic symbols who are identical to the ones i've seen no yes What so, and everybody can see them, but only when they're on DMT.

Speaker 1 You got to check this out. It's really wild.
Holy crap. It's really wild stuff, man.

Speaker 2 Dude, that means their two worlds are connected then, right?

Speaker 1 Possibly, yeah.

Speaker 2 I wonder if that's like they call it the spirit realm. Yeah, that's where you go when you die.
Yeah. You think so?

Speaker 1 I think it seems like, yeah, like it's another, a transitional space, maybe, in between here and the next.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Everyone I've talked to, like in the psychic space, talks about death as a good, like a pleasant experience, actually. Yeah.
But like the transition. Right.
And I know like we're taught to fear it.

Speaker 2 Yeah. But I think we should change that narrative on it.
I do too, yeah.

Speaker 1 I think so supposedly, like one of these books I was reading about these, that talks about the different intelligence out there and supposedly a lot of the alien life that's out there.

Speaker 1 And again, this is just people

Speaker 1 talking about it, but supposedly they treat death as a celebration. Really? Yeah, that's more common in the universe than the way we treat it.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Because I feel like it's the next step in your journey.
I don't feel like it ends there, right? Right, yeah.

Speaker 1 It doesn't seem like it.

Speaker 2 And they teach us like heaven and hell, but it's like, you know.

Speaker 1 Yeah, have you like, so have you seen with these kids that are, they're

Speaker 1 having like past life life memories?

Speaker 2 Past life, yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so you got these four, five, six, seven-year-old kids that are talking about being fire pilots and able to like just belt off information about the plane. And

Speaker 2 yeah, how would that be possible? How is that possible? Yeah, I've done past life therapy, actually. Have you really? Yeah, have you done that?

Speaker 1 Do like a regression on you?

Speaker 2 Yeah, I've done it three times. Oh, wow.

Speaker 1 What did you find out?

Speaker 2 A lot of interesting past lives, and one of them stood out to me specifically of

Speaker 2 I was super stressed out, businessman, and I died of a heart attack. Yeah.
And I used to get these heart palpitations

Speaker 2 in my current life. And as soon as we cleared that trauma, it stopped.

Speaker 1 Dude, I've heard that. I've heard that a lot of that, that that can help a lot of your past life stuff.

Speaker 1 Like, so I had a girlfriend that was, she had a fear of drowning and did one, and supposedly she had drowned in a past life. Wow.
So she always had this fear ever since.

Speaker 2 It went away? Yeah.

Speaker 1 And then once she, yeah, once she did the same thing, she didn't have to.

Speaker 2 Yeah, dude. For me, that was nuts because I went to get heart scans.
I did everything. Nothing was wrong with my heart.
Yeah. Literally nothing they could find.

Speaker 1 And then we did that went away isn't that wild man yeah you should do it man i do want to do it yeah i am doing it actually oh you are now yeah so the i'm going to do the guy the guy thing yeah i was saying and um they're going to do a uh to see if i have any missing time from the military they're going to do a hypnotist is going to check missing time what's that missing time is like anytime with the phenomenon like people that are exposed to craft or the phenomenon tend to have like blocks of time that they can't oh wow so they wipe your memory yeah so there's something that may be tied to that so i don't know if i have any there's some time that's that's fuzzy and that I'm kind of curious about.

Speaker 1 And also when I try to think back to the stuff that happened at Crane, there's times where I just can't access that memory. It's a really weird experience for me because

Speaker 1 I'm pretty, like, just from the type of work that I've done, being a fireman, being a Green Beret, like I'm pretty comfortable with understanding how my mind works, my strengths and weaknesses, right?

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 it's my recall for that particular time period is really fuzzy and weird. Damn.
And it's it just trips me out.

Speaker 2 I don't believe in coincidences, man. Yeah.
So I think there's something there.

Speaker 1 There's got to be something. So that's what we're going to dig into with the hypnotist and see if there's something they can pull out.
And then also the past life stuff.

Speaker 2 Nice. Yeah, that'll be valuable for you.
Yeah, because have you heard of MK Ultra programming? It sounds like that's might have been what happened.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it could be.

Speaker 1 And I happen, one of my good buddies, his dad was part of the program

Speaker 1 prior to that that they were actually trying to do mind control stuff. Really?

Speaker 1 It's been common throughout, you know, at least with the agency. They've been trying to do that stuff forever.

Speaker 2 Who knows how advanced it is now? Yeah. Yeah, they might be able to do it without you even noticing.

Speaker 1 They could probably rate through all of our devices.

Speaker 2 Yeah, they could probably do it through your devices, to be honest. Yeah, MK Ultra, they say a lot of celebrities are under that.

Speaker 1 Really? Yeah. That's crazy.
Like, did they work for?

Speaker 2 Just like Hollywood in general. You know, there's a lot of control over these celebrities, actors, whatever.
That's crazy. I could definitely see it, too.
Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 I mean, well, look how when stuff goes down, like with the P. Diddy thing,

Speaker 2 Epstein Island.

Speaker 1 Yeah, dude. Who would have thought that was real? Yeah.
Why has everybody got to mess with kids, man? What is that? When did that become a thing?

Speaker 2 Who knows if we'll ever know that? Dude, that's just crazy, man. It's messed up.

Speaker 1 I got the particular set of skills that I would love to just...

Speaker 1 That is a freaking...

Speaker 2 I'll do it for free. You ever run into trafficking rings when you were? I did, yeah.
Oh, you did? Was it kids?

Speaker 1 Yeah. Damn.
It's very common. In the U.S.? Southeast Asia? No.

Speaker 1 Southeast Asia.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it is.

Speaker 2 So they just sell them off.

Speaker 1 Wow. Yeah,

Speaker 1 we actually saw, I don't know how much this I could talk about. We actually saw an auction auction going down where there was some stuff like that happening, and we kind of shut it down.

Speaker 2 Holy shit.

Speaker 2 Yeah, dude, I saw an exotic animal auction the other day on YouTube. I think it was Paul Rosalie.
Yeah. It's one of those guys.
But dude, like monkeys, rare birds.

Speaker 1 Let's go and snatch these things out of the picture.

Speaker 2 Yeah, it's messed up, dude. And they look like they're miserable in those cages.

Speaker 2 Man, black market's no joke.

Speaker 1 Yeah, man.

Speaker 1 There was a team of Green Braves hunting poachers down in Africa. One of my buddies was on that team.
Just hunting. These dudes were trying to kill kill elephants.

Speaker 2 Wow, for their tusks, right?

Speaker 1 Holy crap.

Speaker 2 Elephants are so innocent.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I know, man.

Speaker 1 So, dude, like when I in the military, my time in Southeast Asia, I got to, I got exposed to monkeys.

Speaker 1 I used to, when I was a kid, I used to grow up thinking monkeys would be like the coolest pet or animal. Yeah.
And then actually being around monkeys, they're d ⁇ .

Speaker 1 I've heard that, though.

Speaker 1 But.

Speaker 1 Elephants turned out to be my favorite animal now. Really? I got to, this elephant drew a picture of me with his tusk.

Speaker 2 Oh, in Vegas, right?

Speaker 1 No, this was in

Speaker 2 Southeast Asia. Oh, okay.
They had one in Vegas at the Lion Zoo. Oh, okay.
But it just recently passed away. But yeah, it could paint and stuff.

Speaker 1 They're actually smart, man. Yeah.
Yeah, and then it would walk you around, fist bump you. Yeah.

Speaker 2 You'd be surprised how smart some of these animals are. And then people are just out here killing them.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I do this.

Speaker 2 It's messed up for financial gain.

Speaker 2 Yeah, that's that's screwed up. Did you get to pick where you went, like in Asia, or they kind of just they assigned you?

Speaker 1 Yeah, I just went, I went, you kind of, you go to the team you're going to go to, and then

Speaker 1 the teams are kind of built to focus on certain areas, like certain groups. And then, so we, my group was specifically more focused on Southeast Asia.
That's why I speak Indonesian and Malaysian.

Speaker 2 Oh, wow.

Speaker 1 That's cool.

Speaker 2 So the berets are everywhere, then?

Speaker 1 Everywhere, yeah. Damn.
All over the world.

Speaker 2 How long were you over there?

Speaker 1 All total time? Oh, I don't know, man.

Speaker 1 Did like three trips.

Speaker 1 Three trips?

Speaker 2 Wow. That's cool, dude.
Thanks for your service.

Speaker 1 Yeah, thanks and you were a firefighter after that or before that I was a firefighter before I got hired from the fire department I was like 19 and did that for a while and in my early 20s I was kind of getting a little stagnant I was a real motivated kid man like I loved challenging myself yeah I was an explorer trying to get on the fire department then I was in the academy I was like one of the top of my class and I just always like wanted to just like challenge myself and so I got a little stagnant after being on the job for a while and decided to go try out.

Speaker 1 I was either going going to try to be a SEAL or Green Brett. I didn't know much about Green Brett.
So I dug into it and was way more interested in doing that.

Speaker 2 So I think

Speaker 2 that's what that route, yeah. So I got to ask your opinion on the Cali fires then.

Speaker 1 Man, that's pretty wild how they line up. Did you see how they line up with the Smart City Initiative?

Speaker 2 The LA 2.0, you're saying? Yeah, it looks pretty interesting there. That's wild, dude.
And they didn't have water.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's another thing, dude. I can speak to that as a fireman.
No freaking way should that ever happen, dude.

Speaker 1 yeah that's never happened to you right in vegas hell no and we're in the desert and it's never happened to you no we've had a hydrant be bad but then we just go to the next hydrant like you know yeah but it's no you're that's insane especially like you're right near the ocean and it's the most fire ridden city yeah i don't i don't like that did not make sense at all that that's it seems way too fishy man Just a lot of things lined up in that one.

Speaker 1 Yeah, like you said, I don't, I also do not believe in coincidence. Yeah.
And especially the older I get. But yeah, man, there's there's too many and that news something's up with that dude

Speaker 2 you ever watch him on like his mannerisms yeah yeah he just doesn't seem human right human man i mean there's there's theories that aliens have infiltrated politics yeah well he's one of them

Speaker 2 well randy what's next for you man that was super fun oh man yeah i'm just working on my stuff man doing home defense planning and teaching people how to shoot guns that's your main business yeah you do it in vegas yep here in town well i'll get some lessons from you man yeah

Speaker 2 i definitely need to uh learn how to do that. We'll link your social media below and uh, people want to check you out for sure, bro.
Yeah,

Speaker 2 cool, thanks for hopping on, guys. Thanks for watching.
See you next time.