
From UFC Fights to Building A Cannabis Empire | Tai Tuivasa DSH #1355
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Very early in my career, I kind of shot out real fast, and that was against JDS, and I just went out guns blazing and ended up... You got gassed.
Nah, I ended up getting clipped. Oh, shit.
And he dropped me, and then next minute I remember, I wake up, just my eyes open, and I just saw his elbow hit me in the face, and I was like yeah fuck alright guys
we got Ty here
from Australia
let's go man
how are you bro
long flight
very long flight
I've been over here
for a little bit now
so
I'm definitely ready
to go home
you up or down
gambling
from last night
definitely down
oh
but I haven't
I haven't been out
to the casino much
I'm staying there
but
haven't been down there
until last night
do you gamble a lot
in general or
um
nah but when I do
I kinda do
I kinda got that
personality
in anything I do
you got that
addictive personality
oh yeah
fucked
that's probably why
you're good at fighting
at least
you like fighting right
I definitely like fighting
I like the
I like the
I like the fight
Thank you. You got that addictive personality? Oh, yeah.
Fucked. That's probably why you're good at fighting, at least.
You like fighting, right?
I definitely like fighting.
I like the fight of fighting.
When did that start?
Since young.
I grew up in a big household, so I was fighting around.
Eleven siblings, right?
Yeah.
That's insane.
It's unheard of these days.
I'm an island, though. That's too much Samoan.
We're Samoans, so it's unheard of these days I'm an island though that's
too much
I'm on
with Samoans
so it's kind
of normal
it's normal out
there huh
yeah
I'm an only
child
you're the only
child
yeah
yeah
how's that
honestly it
kind of sucked
yeah
kind of lonely
I wish I had
some siblings
sometimes you
have too many
are you close
with all them
yeah we're
pretty close
yeah
so it's good we're a tightening family are any of them fighters too? no so just you had that that anger in you oh my brother we definitely had it depending on which one definitely one. My little brother actually is a boxer.
He's still young.
He's only 14, but he's definitely got it in him.
Okay.
So I think he's probably going to be the next one.
Did you start off with boxing or you went straight into mixed martial arts?
My dad was a boxer.
So we always trained boxing and stuff like that or to have to defend ourselves. Yeah.
So you just grew up in the fight scene? I wouldn't say in the fight scene, but I grew up fighting. Yeah.
When did Dana make the call to you? Dana. I don't even think I ever talked to Dana.
Really? Back then, nah. We had Mick Maynard.
He's an Aussie, so he kind of looks after the Aussie fighters, I think. You got the call, and then what was that first fight like? Was it a big change for you? I went through a very big change in my life at that time.
I was kind of mixed up in still what I was doing, which wasn't too much. And then I had to kind of figure out what I wanted to do.
And I found out I was having a kid, and I had to make the choice. Damn.
So you had to go all in. Yeah, I went all in.
And then I had a fight to get into the UFC. So it was my title defense in Australia.
And he snapped my knee. Holy crap.
So and then I went to the UFC meeting and I signed the contract with a fucked knee. And they asked me, could I four weeks and I said I don't think I could probably fight I said I probably won't fight for a year so I was kind of hyped up I got signed and then there was a bit of a hype up like Bam Bam from Australia signed he's meant to be pretty good and then it kind of died off because I fucked my knee damn Damn.
So you never felt the same after that? Oh, no. I still feel normal.
I just went for a very, very rough time. So I had my knee surgery.
I snapped everything except the ACL. Holy crap.
And then when I woke up from the surgery, I could only feel one arm arm jeez you were paralyzed well yeah i kind of lost feeling to my whole right arm for about six months oh my god was that supposed to happen definitely not so they just messed up yeah i think they fucked up it was a public it was a i don't know sounds like a lawsuit so yeah's crazy though. I didn't know that happened.
Six months of no feeling in the arms. And then at this time I was having, I had my son.
So I was kind of fucked up there for a bit. Yeah.
Crazy timing. Having a kid while the worst injury.
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Okay.
And then who was your first loss?
I headlined in Adelaide.
So I headlined the show in Australia,
which was a really big thing for me.
And that was my first headline.
And it was kind of like very early in my career.
I kind of shot out real fast. And I was against JDS.
And I just went out guns blazing and ended up. You got gassed? Nah, I ended up getting clipped.
Oh, shit. And he dropped me.
And then next minute, I remember I wake up. My eyes opened.
And I just saw his elbow hit me in the the face and I was like, yeah, fuck. Jeez.
Yeah, this doesn't look too good. Was that your toughest opponent? Oh, I wouldn't say toughest opponent.
There's definitely a big learning curve. I'm still learning.
I'm still learning a lot in this sport. Yeah.
I wouldn't class myself as a proper MMA athlete. Yeah.
I'm kind of more just a bluer, a fighter. What do you think is that separation there between you and the professional? I kind of don't watch it or I'm into it as much as other people.
I just like the battle of it. The mental battle or? I don't know.
The whole thing, the getting in there and improving yourself. I kind of like that bit more.
I don't know. It's really weird.
So you're not as technical basically. I wouldn't say, I wouldn't say not technical.
I just say wouldn't, not as interested. Interesting.
So you don't like watching like John Jones or I don't watch any fighting what
if I do watch
fighting
it's
it's
it's gypsy
fights
and like
bare knuckle
have you ever
watched gypsy
fights
no I've watched
bare knuckle
have you ever
watched gypsy
call outs
no it's not
oh my gosh
the gypsies on
the streets
you're talking
about
so gypsies
like Irish
gypsies
and like
English gypsies
and like
they do
call outs
so they
they call
people out
on video
Thank you. So gypsies, like Irish gypsies and like English gypsies, and like they do call outs.
So they call people out on video. It's fucking hilarious.
You've got to watch it. I got to watch that.
Once you watch one, you kind of just sit there and... Rabbit hole? Yeah.
It's so funny. I like bare knuckle though.
Bare knuckle is cool. That's insane.
Kind of taking over a little bit.
Yeah, they seem like they're riding the wave because no one's been able to challenge the UFC,
but they might be next.
Yeah, I think it'd be hard to challenge the UFC.
They got a monopoly, right?
They're the boss.
I think they were the first to market,
so they just have a big advantage.
I think Dane is very smart as well.
Yeah. And the way he's moved.
What's something you've learned from him just watching him over the years? Look at the UFC. Look what he's done.
Yeah. Not just that.
The UFC as a whole is run to a T. Everything's on time.
Fights are on time. All the workers are always on point.
Yeah. They run a tight ship over there.
You see he's getting into boxing now? I see that. Saudi Arabia.
I see that. Crazy money out there.
Very crazy money. You might have to get out there, man.
I'm definitely not saying no. I want to get back, you know, I want to get back in the gym and get focused on fighting and then get that out of the way and see what's next.
You got any opponents this year
you want to fight, go after?
This year I'm going to sit out. I'm going to train
when I get back and get in shape.
I'm a bit fat at the moment.
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Definitely been enjoying my time off. Obviously dropped my company, Bam Bam Buds cannabis company here in America so I've been busy doing other things are just the fighting I've been giving the rest of yeah I've been on a losing streak so it's just I needed a reset has that been tough on you mentally the losing streak fuck yeah losing's always shit.
No one likes losing. But
I think it's how
we dust ourselves off
and
go back at it again.
Yeah.
Five losses straight.
That's the longest
for you.
Yeah, fuck.
It's crazy.
Yeah, I know.
Shit.
You had a lot of wins
before that at least.
Yeah.
Fucking always
up and down.
That's life though. Very life.
Very life. It's rare to go undefeated these days as a fighter.
Yeah. Only Jon Jones and Khabib recently.
There's a few. I just don't think it's always been me.
I'm always a win or lose. Sometimes win, sometimes lose.
Well, with your weight class, it's tough. Yeah.
One punch is all it is all it takes definitely that's definitely true and definitely I think the the time off that I'm having right now is good because the weight class is pretty shit at the moment oh yeah well that's what I think who's the champ right now of the weight class shit John Jones or Tom Aspen John Jones oh it's Jones yeah he's got one more fight I think I think he yeah they're trying to fight Tom but I don't know if it would have happened who would you think who do you think would win that I think if there's anyone to beat Jones it would be Tom he's a lot younger yeah yeah Jones in his prime I think would destroy him but right now anyone's ever been Jones yeah he's got one foot out the door now he's getting up there in age yeah he's he's on his way out that's for sure you think he's the GOAT yeah definitely yeah I don't think it's close yeah not fighting he does some crazy shit outside the ring but so do you everyone does some crazy shit everyone does their own thing you Australians are wild manies are pretty wild. Whenever I have Aussies on the pod, they ask me, you coming to the club tonight with us? I'm like, hell no.
Yeah, you're not going out with the Aussies? I don't party. You don't party? I don't.
You don't drink? I drink a little bit. A couple times a year.
I got hammered the other night playing darts. So you do drink? Yeah, a couple times a year.
Damn. You got hammered the other night.
Yeah, you're not going out of Aussies. No, I wouldn't last.
We're pretty crazy. We love to party.
You do. I wonder why.
You guys are just trapped on the island out there. Bored.
I don't know, actually. It's kind of like a weird party culture.
I've been around the world and I've partied around as well. And it's like, yeah, Aussies are different.
Yeah. You guys are a different breed.
Where else has good parties, though? You've been around the world. Yeah.
Shit. Europe.
Europe can party. Dubai is fun.
Dubai can party? Yeah.
Really?
Dubai is cool.
I thought it was strict over there.
It has its rules, but it also doesn't.
It's a lot of fun.
They definitely have the best venues.
Yeah, they got money out there.
Oh, yeah. You got to spend some money, though.
That's the only thing.
Were you fighting out there or you were just chilling?
I actually moved over there and stayed there while COVID hit in Australia just because the rules were a lot lenient there. Yeah.
So I trained and that's where I kind of went on my run there for a little bit. Okay.
How about to Dubai? I got that out there, man. I love Dubai.
Dubai's awesome. You like Australia more than the US? Oh, yeah, definitely.
Really? I'm an Aussie, but not even just that. Like, I've...
I've been eating some fat food. Fuck.
Bro, the food, he's not real food. Nah, it's all processed.
Bro, he's not real food. I don't know.
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If anyone knows that, but the food here is not real. I don't know.
I mean, there's a reason a lot of us are fat here. Shit, I'm fat too, but it's just...
We're very lucky as Australians and even New Zealand, I think anywhere over that world, side of the world, we've got such good produce. So love me some Australian Wagyu.
That shit's good. I can't wait to get home and cook me a steak.
Yeah, I prefer a Wagyu over there than most of the steak here. Yeah.
Well, I think the best meats around the world, they're the sold from Australia anyway. Are they? I'd say so.
In Dubai and stuff, you're paying fucking $400 for an Australian
steak. Damn.
You can pay for
20 bucks down the pub. Holy
crap. That's probably one of your biggest exports
for Australia. I think it'll
be up there. That's nuts.
I like New Zealand too. I've been there.
New Zealand's
beautiful. Yeah, the food was great out there.
Beautiful food, New Zealand. People out there
were really nice too. Very good.
Australia
is too hot for me, man. Too hot?
Yeah. You live in
Thank you. beautiful.
Yeah, the food was great out there. Beautiful food in New Zealand.
People out there were really nice too. Very good.
Australia is too hot for me, man. Too hot? Yeah.
You live in Vegas? I just moved here, but yeah. But you just moved here? Where are you from? Jersey.
You been out there? I was just there. Really? Bro, we got an Airbnb.
We were staying right in the hood. Why would you do that? Newark? I don't know.
You stayed in Newark? Newark. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Bro, we turned in the hood why would you do that i don't know you wouldn't you stayed in newark yeah yeah yeah bro we we turned in the street these two girls were shaping up oh my gosh we were laughing why would you pick newark well we were actually got this spot in like in manhattan we couldn't even open our bags so you couldn't open it it was too small it was so small like they put like three rooms in this little and we had to get out I said I'm take me to the hood I'd rather at least we got some room Manhattan's expensive Manhattan was expensive man I don't think I think the I think the room in Newark for one night was as much as like you could pay like three nights for one night oh easily easily yeah Jersey slept on though it's a good state not Newark but I definitely need to I definitely need to go back and experience yeah that doesn't count as Jersey but my last experience was a bit people only go there to fly fly out that's where the airport is oh is oh yeah that's it though you're not there for any other reason yeah i'll say that too the neighborhoods in australia any anywhere like that or they're all safe over there oh no it definitely depends where you go where i grew up was pretty pretty rough but that's home yeah um definitely not like America. We don't have the numbers.
We've got 28 million people of the whole country. Yeah, there's some states that wouldn't work.
Yeah, LA's got more. Crazy.
We're definitely a lot smaller. Yeah.
You like LA? I like LA, but it's kind of, I wouldn't, it's not really. That's a no.
It's not really. It wouldn't be like my spot.
Yeah. I don't know.
I think it's just a bit, a bit full on and a bit, yeah. People care about social media there a lot.
People care about it? Like their followers and their. Oh yeah, see, I wouldn't go, I don't know.
I don't't i don't follow any of that shit yeah they care about their look their image yeah i need to care about one a bit it's a really materialistic city though yeah i suppose dubai's a bit like that as well is it very okay yeah i thought dubai was more about money and well that's the same shit. Yeah.
Everyone's faking it, probably.
Yeah, there's a lot of that.
Yeah, that's one of the downsides
of social media, right?
I'd say so.
I've seen some people
that are really big on social media
but they really ain't doing shit.
Yeah.
Yeah, that's usually most people
with a big following.
They got to make up for it somehow.
Yeah. It's unfortunate.
Well, what else is next for you this year man you're not fighting so you're just gonna well i've been busy with this this has been a this has been a bit of a long process but uh still learning a lot about the game uh really just a foot in to get started you know what i mean but um i've been spending time with my son, family time. But when I get back, I'm going to get back into training.
And I want to book a fight for next year. I'll start early next year.
Yeah. You want more kids? Ooh, that's a good question.
Yeah. I wouldn't mind more kids.
I think I just need to work more. Yeah.
They're expensive, right? Yeah. I grew up in a big family, so it's kind of, I know how it is.
I want to be set up a little bit more. Yeah.
Yeah, you grew up with 11 siblings, so you got to catch up, man. Let's see.
I don't think I'm going that hard. My brothers have got like four or five apiece.
Damn. Trump just offered 5K if you have a kid out here now.
5K? Yeah, today. Shit, sign me up.
It goes to the woman though. Oh, it goes to the woman.
Yeah. So they get five grand ahead now because we're losing numbers here.
We used to do, we had a baby bonus in Australia, so it's kind of like a baby bonus. Yeah, baby bonus, yeah.
Where's that? Just in Vegas? In America. In America? Yeah, because our numbers are dropping we're not having enough sex so like we're uh more people are dying than are being born right now why do you think the no sex i don't know it's weird i've been fine but yeah other people i guess good yeah i mean i'm chilling that's good other people though they're not uh having kids okay it's not sex i think it's having kids people are having sex they're not having kids i think that's what it is so americans are shooting blanks shooting blanks or just wearing condoms i don't know people just don't want kids out here i don't know if australia has that issue right now but oh i haven't looked into it that much yeah it It's concerning though, because you can't grow as a country if your numbers are going down.
True. You know, you guys got to catch up to us.
You're at 28 million. Yeah.
We're way behind. 300 million over here or something like that.
We're so far away. And you can't kind of live in the middle of Australia.
So you guys have some dangerous animals out there.
I always see these crazy videos.
Do you actually see those when you're out there?
Depends where you are.
Those poisonous animals.
Yeah.
We see snakes and stuff.
Yeah.
Like it depends where you live.
If you live in some, like one spot, you might have all of them.
Have you ever had an incident with one of those?
No.
I keep my eyes near the street lights. You have a box of kangaroo? Hell no.
That looks fun, right? That'll probably run my fat ass down and jump on my back. You could take one.
You could take a kangaroo. I'd have a crack.
They got big, big nails though. Yeah, those look sharp.
Big claws, things. Damn.
When I went out there, I ate one of one of them. You ate everywhere? Yeah.
You like it? Yeah, it's good. Very tough.
I had it in a burger at the zoo. At the zoo? Yeah, right next to the zoo.
Yeah. So the restaurant.
They're playing up. Yeah, it was right next to the Melbourne Zoo.
They ate the burger, went to the zoo and pet a kangaroo there.
They had a little Joey there.
It was cool.
This is kind of like
the full circle.
Yeah.
Got to experience it
on both sides.
You know?
My fiance was pissed though.
She wasn't actually?
But there's so many
of them over there.
You got to eat them.
Yeah,
they're kind of like pests.
That's what I heard.
Well,
they just fuck all the time. So, they're not, they're not, they're not, they're kind of like pests that's what I heard well they just fuck
all the time
so
they're not
they're not
they're not
they're not running out
there's more of them
than people right
that's what I heard
now you got me
yeah
you gotta
can you hunt them there
is that legal
I suppose so
okay
you're not a hunter
no
I told you
I'm staying near the streetlights
man
I'm not. I suppose so okay you're not a hunter no I told you
I'm staying near the streetlights
man
hunting's big out here
yeah
hunting is big
hunting's big in Australia as well
it's just
kind of normal thing
yeah
you just stay in your lane
yeah
what's the craziest activity
like
you've done like skydiving
and you go crazy what's the craziest activity shit now what's the craziest activity like you've done like skydiving and you go crazy activity shit now let's i can't skydive why i'm too fat is that a rule unfortunately yes i didn't know that so i went to ask one time and um they go yeah it's a it's 120 is the cut limit. And they go, but you can go by, you can jump by yourself.
Screw that. So I kind of, I don't know how I feel jumping the first time.
No, not by yourself. That's sketchy.
120, that's kilograms, right? Yeah. Yeah.
We use pounds here. so that's 265 265 damn I got friends that wait more than that
so do i what's the lowest you've been in your adult years oh one it's when i fight is that's when i'm at my lowest damn you're in the hundreds when you're fighting i have to cut to to fight to heavyweight, yeah. Wow.
Always. Jeez.
So you're like way over right now then? Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah. I'm heavy heavyweight.
Paddy the baddy, baby. That dude looks fat off-season.
He puts the beef on. Yeah.
He gets back to fight shape. Gets the job done.
Man, how good did he do? I didn't think he was going to win. I'm not going to lie.
You thought Chandler was going to win? I don't know. Chandler's kind of like a G-up.
Yeah. I wanted Chandler.
I always think I'll go for him because he always looks... He's like a fucking machine, but I don't know.
He doesn't... Fucking Paddy did well.
Paddy looked good, bro. He's on a good streak right now.
Very good good I don't think he's lost in years I wouldn't know off season he's just he looks like a dad bod and then he yeah I like that it's more like relatable yeah that's why people like he enjoys we're normal people yeah I get it sometimes I might have put a bit too much weight on like as normal professionals but like over normal people yeah I get it sometimes I might have
put a bit too much weight on
like as normal professionals
but like
we're normal people
people have normal lives as well
100%
do people try to test you
outside of the ring
at the bars or anything
nah
not any
you're too nice
oh
yeah
I'm easy to get along with
and if I feel the type of way
I'll just say it
yeah
like if someone's rude or something
I'd say hey
you'll call them out
Thank you. Oh, yeah.
I'm easy to get along with. And if I feel the type of way, I'll just say it.
Yeah. If someone's rude or something, I'd say, hey.
You'll call them out. Oh, yeah.
I'll still slap them. I'll still slap someone if they fucking play out.
Yeah. I'm still a man.
You shouldn't disrespect. If someone's disrespectful, yeah.
You'll pull out a Conor McGregor slap? I don't know.
I don't know what that slap is, but
no, I just,
you gotta set it
straight sometimes.
You get in a lot of fights outside? Outside the ring?
No way, no.
Not any, no way. That's good.
Not since I was a kid. Oh, shit.
Well, that's probably smart, because people
want to go after you legally and stuff, I bet.
Yeah, probably. See you as a target?
I don a kid. Oh, shit.
Well, that's probably smart because people want to go after you legally and stuff, I bet. Yeah, probably.
See you as a target. I don't know.
As a kid, you got in a lot, though? I had a few fights, yeah. That's common with fighters, though.
Yeah. Kind of starts somewhere, right? Something like that.
Were you getting picked on or what happened? No, I just think probably where, I think just where I was from and where I grew up,
it's kind of,
I don't know,
what you did.
Yeah.
When did the Shoei celebration start?
Oh, shit.
My boys were doing the Shoei
way, way before me.
Really?
Yeah, it's been around for a long time.
I think for me, it was more like a bit of a marketing stint plus the fastest way to get some alcohol into me it worked well worked very well you came known for it yeah it uh it definitely worked out well and you were the first fighter i saw do it in ufc yeah i't remember anyone else doing that. No, I think I was definitely one of the first.
Yeah. But like, again, it was never like a my thing.
It was, it's kind of like in Australia, people doing them. Just randomly? Yeah.
Aussies, bro. We're fucking weirdos.
To me, that shit's nasty, bro. Someone's wearing their fucking shoe.
Oh, yeah you i remember doing some back in the day like just filthy ones you know like the whole club spinning in it oh my god i don't know why dude you're what now i'm older you think back and just like what the hell yeah now you're using new shoes right not necessarily yeah you use uh i saw you did something with the milk yeah the Nelk Boys the Happy Dad yeah that was actually probably the most famous one yeah that one got millions of views yeah that was cool I hope to see you do it again one day man I fucking hope so too bro I really do you gotta win this next one I will I will I'm definitely this time off it's been good for me I think I needed it that's great man well where can people find the product and find you and keep up with you yeah head to bambambuds.com we got all our products on there we deliver straight to your door and if you enter the code bam tour you get 20% off while we're on this American tour we We're nearly finished now. I'm ready to go home
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