Justin Andrews: Chasing Dreams & Changing Lives | Justin Andrews DSH #1338

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Speaker 2 All right, guys, Justin Andrews, country artist, up and coming and about to make his name known, I think, soon. Thanks for coming on, man.
Absolutely.

Speaker 1 It's my pleasure.

Speaker 2 Thanks for having me. Yeah, you've been traveling a lot lately, huh?

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 been moving here and there and,

Speaker 1 you know, trying to make the dream happen like everybody else and

Speaker 1 i mean honestly it's it's been an exciting start to the year so far we got a lot going and and you know looking forward to all the the shows we're going to do and i mean it's just to me it's you know growing up middle of nowhere you never thought you'd be where you're at right now yeah must be a big change for you huh it is yeah i mean i grew up in a little in a little small town you know there was 16 in my graduating high school class whites yeah that was the size of like my gym class yeah yeah there was well i think there was supposed to be 22 but some of them, some of them didn't quite

Speaker 2 copy. Six of them didn't make it.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 So, but yeah, I mean, it's just, just trying to make it happen.

Speaker 1 I mean, I, I, I don't, sometimes you, you think about it in your brain and you're like, man, I don't know how to make this work, but I'm just going to keep doing it and see what happens.

Speaker 2 Did you always have these big dreams even when you were young like that in high school?

Speaker 1 Man, honestly.

Speaker 1 I always wanted to be a musician. I knew that.
My grandparents raised me when they were in their 50s

Speaker 1 and they had a traveling gospel band.

Speaker 1 And so,

Speaker 1 you know, it was, it was more like, you know, them, them saying, hey, you know, get up and sing a song, you know, me and my sister.

Speaker 1 And, and then it kind of turned into I was watching movies with George Strait in it and stuff like that. And I kind of got that hunger to where I was like, man, I want to be George Strait.
I love it.

Speaker 2 You know, so wow, traveling gospel bands. Yeah.
First time I've heard that.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it was, we would go to, go to different churches and, and just, you know, my aunts and my uncles and my dad would play a little guitar and my cousin cousin and all that. And

Speaker 1 I don't know. It was just, I think it was just more of something to do and meeting people that were like you.
And, you know,

Speaker 2 so something about church music makes your body feel good, you know? I'm not even like religious or anything, but like just the energy from that type of music.

Speaker 1 Well, I mean, our church, you know, it was hooping and hollering and jumping up and down and running and all that. You know, it was pretty, it was pretty active.

Speaker 1 But I mean, looking back at it now, I mean,

Speaker 1 I don't know why. I mean, I know why I love music and the reason why anybody loves anything is because that's what you like.
And it don't really matter if anybody else likes it or not.

Speaker 1 But looking back at it now, I mean, we traveled to a lot of churches, did a lot of shows, and, you know, playing with other people and meeting people and just enjoying ourselves and

Speaker 1 experiencing other cultures, really. Cause, I mean, we'd go to any church.
It didn't matter if it fell into. you know, our exact style of religion or whatever.

Speaker 1 You know, we just, it was more so just meeting people, I think, and enjoying people.

Speaker 2 So it didn't matter what branch of religion it was.

Speaker 1 I mean, it was all,

Speaker 1 I mean, we do like Baptists and we do free will, we do holiness and stuff like that, but it was all for the same purpose, you know, kind of, and because everything kind of went hand in hand, I guess.

Speaker 2 That's why I love music, it kind of and food, like those two things like bring people together. It doesn't matter what walk of life, you know,

Speaker 1 it's powerful. I don't know if there's anything that makes me more happier than food and hell.

Speaker 2 They're talking to the right guy about this.

Speaker 1 It's weird because I'm a foodie. Yeah.
And I like everything. like, there's really not anything that I don't like, yeah.

Speaker 2 I like pretty much everything. There, there is a tier list for me, but yeah, most food is really good.

Speaker 1 So, what is what is your favorite thing you've discovered here recently? Oh,

Speaker 2 in Vegas or just overall, anywhere. I didn't eat pho.
Do you have you tried pho? I have, I didn't eat that for like my whole life. I just had some last night, some short rib pho.

Speaker 2 Oh my god, that's what I had.

Speaker 1 I had that about two weeks ago. Fire, right? Yeah,

Speaker 2 so good. Um, I didn't really eat Indian growing up.

Speaker 1 Indian food smacks, oh, yeah, like some good curry.

Speaker 2 I mean,

Speaker 1 I don't really like too spicy. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And so it's like kind of right there in the sweet spot for me.

Speaker 2 It's that balance. Yeah.
Sometimes it's way too spicy. Yeah.
And you're screwed for the rest of the night, you know?

Speaker 1 Yeah. You got to be careful with this.

Speaker 2 100%. Certain Indian curries are, oh, my God.

Speaker 1 Well, I mean, I'd never tried it. When I first moved to Nashville, there was a restaurant and I was working for this gentleman.
and it was pretty much like

Speaker 1 fire, you know, restoration for businesses and all that stuff. And, you know, repairing sheetrock and doing all that stuff.
And we had to go in and we had to work on this, on this Indian restaurant.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 I really was curious because like when you walk into those places and you like, you know, loving food, you walk into a place and you just,

Speaker 1 and you smell and you're like, I wonder what that is, you know, and it was, it was specific. And, and I had never tried Indian food before.
And then after that, I wanted to.

Speaker 1 I was like, I want it because I want my nose and my tongue to match what's going on here, you know? And after I did, I loved it. Let's go.

Speaker 2 Being in Nashville, where do you, where do you rank southern food? You got that pretty high on your list?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 I think

Speaker 1 I'm not really a hot chicken fan. Okay.
And that's kind of Nashville's thing. And, but I love chicken.
I love, you know, breaded, grilled, whatever, doesn't really matter. But I mean,

Speaker 1 I think,

Speaker 1 you know, just steak and potatoes and, you know, asparagus and things like that is probably about as good as it gets for me, a good steak.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I'm with you. Southern food, I like like it's not a daily thing, though.
No, because it's so heavy. Right.

Speaker 2 So I'll eat it maybe once a week or whatever, but daily, it'd be tough to live off southern diet daily. Yeah.
I mean, I'd probably be 30 pounds heavier.

Speaker 1 And I don't know how. And

Speaker 1 that's, that's so true because I don't know how I've managed to stay as small as I am. Because I mean, in

Speaker 1 an all-normal, you know, normal scene, you would be 500 pounds. And just because, because, I mean, but I eat like a bird, though.
Like, I will eat a little bit here, eat a little bit.

Speaker 1 Because you're so busy, right? Eat a little bit there. And, you know, just last week, I told my lady, I was, I was like, you know, how, how if I went till 3 o'clock p.m.

Speaker 1 and just realizing that I haven't ate today?

Speaker 2 Yeah. Yeah, you're so locked in, right? Yeah.
That happens to me. I'll be just filming non-stop or working on preparation for the guests.
And it'll be like 2 p.m. I'm like, I didn't eat yet today.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Yeah, that's a good point, man.
Sounds like you're working hard.

Speaker 1 I've been really big into like yogurt parfaits here recently.

Speaker 2 Ooh, I like yogurt. Greek yogurt.

Speaker 1 Just chop up some apples, chop up some, some raspberries, some blueberries and grapes and put them all in there and drizzle it with honey and put some smoked almonds on. That sounds good.

Speaker 2 Smoked almonds. Wow.
Yeah. I love me some fresh fruit.
I'm a big fruit guy growing up in New Jersey. Oh, yeah.
Known as the garden state.

Speaker 2 Man, got some good fruit out there. But now I'm in Vegas, dude.

Speaker 1 Well, I mean,

Speaker 2 I'm in the desert.

Speaker 1 I don't hardly eat at all when I'm in Vegas, and that's horrible for me.

Speaker 1 Because, I mean, there's all the fast food places, then you have the really nice restaurants where you want to go sit

Speaker 1 with the chefs and all that stuff and the Michelin stars and all this. But I never find myself eating at a lot of those because I'm like, I need to get from point A to point B.

Speaker 1 And that would require me to leave the casino to go do that. Right.

Speaker 2 You know, so you'll settle with In-N-Out.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah. I mean, I mean, just, I mean, at some point, you know, you're having alcoholic drinks and then you really don't care what you eat.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 You know, In-N-Out slaps. I mean, I'll eat it sober.
Like, it's really good.

Speaker 1 Well, my lady's from California, and that's her. That's her go-to.
Yeah, she loves it. Every time we go somewhere and there's an in-and-out, that's she has to go stream through to go do that.

Speaker 2 Yeah, there's none on the East Coast, right?

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 2 Yeah, Nashville Hattie Bees. That's what they're known for.
Hattie Bees.

Speaker 1 We just recently got a Whater. Okay.
And Whataburger is my favorite. Really? Yeah.
Wow.

Speaker 1 I got to try it then. They've got an avocado bacon burger.

Speaker 2 That is

Speaker 1 amazing. And I'm not a big avocado guy.

Speaker 1 So I guess it's just, I think my palate is just weird like it likes you know different combinations of things okay what about guacamole i like well so the weird thing about it is and this is so strange and i've been to the doctor about this and everything if it touches the outside of my lips my lips will swell up but if it doesn't touch the outside of my lips i can still eat it and it creates nothing what so so you're only your lip is only my lips like it'll swell up noticeably whoa i've never heard of that and it's just with avocados avocados wow that is interesting, man.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 2 I'm not allergic to anything that I know of.

Speaker 1 I didn't think I was either. I mean, I can eat anything.
I mean, I don't really even get sick. Like, you know, that's impressive because you travel a lot.

Speaker 2 Yeah. I mean, a lot of people got sick if I travel a lot.

Speaker 1 I've never, I've never had the flu. I've never had a flu shot.
I never got COVID.

Speaker 2 I'm a knock on wood for you because

Speaker 1 I never got COVID. You know, thanks.
That's insane.

Speaker 1 I got it four times. I mean, and so I got a call from

Speaker 1 my band leader one day and he goes, hey, man, you feeling sick? And I was like, I was like, No, not really.

Speaker 1 Why? And he goes, Well, I said, I've just been on the phone with everybody today and the whole band has COVID. Wow.
And he goes, So just go get checked.

Speaker 1 And, you know, because some of them, you know, have no symptoms. You know, you don't even know that you have it.

Speaker 1 And so I went and got a COVID test, you know, and they shoved that thing into my brain, it felt like. For real.
And, and so tested negative. And I was around the band the whole weekend.

Speaker 1 And so I was like, I was like, okay, well, that was weird. Maybe it just, just some freak thing happened.

Speaker 1 Well, then I was in circles with people, you know, because then they'd be like, hey, man, tested positive today, you know, just make sure you're all good because we were around each other and all this stuff.

Speaker 2 Still never got it.

Speaker 1 That's insane. So I have no idea why.

Speaker 2 Your immune system is just amazing. Were you sick a lot early on, like as a kid?

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 1 So my grandfather,

Speaker 1 he had this metal shop and we would travel a lot and deliver metals and they would make like playground equipment out of it.

Speaker 1 And so we would go to Dallas a lot.

Speaker 1 And right before leaving Dallas, we would always hit the fruit market and we would load up, we would unload the truck, you know, when we were delivering the metal and then we would load up the back of the truck since it was empty with all kinds of fruits and veggies like that.

Speaker 1 So like when I was growing up, you never seen me without an orange or an apple or a pear or,

Speaker 1 you know, a grapefruit or whatever. Like I always had something in my hand that was fruit or veggie.
And so I think that has to have something to do with it.

Speaker 2 Must be. And you are watching.
You You were just eating it, right?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 That's probably built your immune system because it's whatever's on there. You're just eating it.

Speaker 1 I mean, I don't know what was on it, but I never noticed it when I was eating it. I don't guess.

Speaker 2 Damn, dude, that's impressive. There's a nasty flu going on right now.
I heard about it.

Speaker 2 So many people I know are getting it and they're saying it's like the worst, like the most sick they've ever been. So I'm kind of worried.

Speaker 1 Well,

Speaker 1 I'm worried about getting the flu just because like my, my aunt kind of spooked me a little bit because she's a school teacher. And so they have to get a flu shot every year.

Speaker 1 And she was like, I'm just kind of scared that if you ever do get the flu, that it's just going to be really bad. And I was like, hey, don't put that on me.

Speaker 1 I was like, don't try to scare me like that.

Speaker 2 It could get bad, man. I had COVID and then that turned to pneumonia.
And yeah, I did get some strong antibiotics. I still have some damage from that in my lungs.
Really? Yeah. I got an MRI.

Speaker 2 My lung has a, what's it called? A tear in it.

Speaker 1 Oh, really? From coughing so hard? Yeah.

Speaker 2 Coughing up a lung is what they say. I literally almost did that.

Speaker 1 Oh, my God.

Speaker 2 And that would suck for someone like you. You need your lungs.

Speaker 1 Man, it's, you, you never realize, you know, and I never realized it until, you know, like after you have like, because I'll get like really bad allergies, you know, or a small case of, you know, an upper respiratory infection, like either in the spring or the fall of every year.

Speaker 1 And it's not anything major, but you never notice. like how much you're using your lungs until you get like a small sickness.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 And then you're on stage and you're singing and you know that like a quarter of your air is gone. Wow.

Speaker 2 It's not noticeable. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 From a little cold. Yeah.
And

Speaker 1 just having like a stuffy nose or whatever, you know, when you're, when you're up there singing, you can tell how like one side of your nose clogged up how much the notes change. That's crazy.

Speaker 1 And it's just so weird because like one, one day this nostril will be stopped up and then the next day this nostril will be stopped up.

Speaker 1 And so like, that's, it's, it's weird how it affects you.

Speaker 2 I get amazed when I see performers on stage not only singing, but dancing while they're singing. Oh.
Because you got to be like, your lungs have to be in great shape for that.

Speaker 1 I really don't know. And going back to the 90s, watching Garth Brooks do his thing, you know, running back and forth on stage.
And while he's singing these notes, you can tell that he's,

Speaker 1 and I'm like, dude, I stand up there and sing and I move around and I entertain and I do all this stuff, but I don't know if I could ever have done that.

Speaker 2 You got to be built different. Like Michael Jackson, Chris Brown.

Speaker 2 They are literally doing a full workout.

Speaker 1 Timberlake. Yeah.
All these guys. Full workout while singing.

Speaker 2 Have you ever seen justin tumberlake in concert i saw him at the super bowl did you see that one super bowl yeah that was impressive yeah super bowl concerts are like my favorite to watch i've never been to a super bowl and i really want to never been to one damn you got to go well it might be too late but new orleans next week

Speaker 1 that would be a little a little too last minute yeah your calendar is probably booked for the year at this point well i mean we're we're just i mean honestly we're just trying to do all we can you know and and and honestly i really would just love to just be on the road and and this is i mean everybody would be like, oh, I bet you would.

Speaker 1 But I invest in people.

Speaker 1 I love people.

Speaker 1 And when people see an artist, an up-and-coming artist, they're like, oh, he just wants to be the next thing. Well, everybody wants to be the next thing.

Speaker 1 And, but my purpose and my reason for why I do what I do, I left a great job for 10 years to just chase a dream.

Speaker 1 And I enjoy people and people make me happy. You know, like when we can share stories about food or, you know, like like, I really enjoy people.

Speaker 1 And, and so that is why I would love to be out in the world and doing these things because people make me happy.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 1 You know, and music makes me happy. And

Speaker 1 food or whatever that people vibe with, I'm like, man, just do what you love and

Speaker 1 damn everything else.

Speaker 2 Facts. I love that way of living, man.
I love that. What was your job? You said you had a 10-year job.

Speaker 1 Yeah. So when I graduated high school and all of my friends were going to college and people were going to the military and all this stuff.
And I was like, man, I really don't know what I want to do.

Speaker 1 And my older brother was working for this company in Yukon, Oklahoma. And I was like, man, do I want to do that? I really don't.

Speaker 1 I mean, and I knew, I was like, man, I really don't want to go to college. And I had great grades and everything like that.
And I was like, I don't really want to go to college.

Speaker 1 And everybody's going to OU, Oklahoma State, you know, going down to Texas and doing all this stuff. And I just had a talk with myself in the truck one day.

Speaker 1 And I was like, I know you don't want to go to college. So don't go to college.
And so my brother was working for this company and I was like, do they need any help?

Speaker 1 And he was like, yeah, they'll always hire people on this stuff. So I was, I was the gopher guy.
You know, go get this, go get that, you know, go get this, go get that.

Speaker 1 And then we started working for another company that was doing the same thing, but I did that for 10 years. And, you know, it was like 290 days out of the year.

Speaker 1 Dad, I mean, you made, you made great money, but I mean, and then when you were off, you bought a brand new truck or you bought a boat or you bought a motorcycle.

Speaker 1 And so everybody where I'm from is making all this great money, but they're broke because when they're off, you know, you work hard and you play even harder.

Speaker 2 Yeah, they spend it all.

Speaker 1 And, but, you know, I mean, I made a lot of, everything's heavy, you know, but there were, somebody was asking me the other day, they was like, did you do anything like that landman show?

Speaker 1 And I was like, I did a lot of things like that, like every day.

Speaker 2 So hard physical labor.

Speaker 1 And seeing people get injured and some people losing their life. And, you know, all this.
I mean, I did it for that long, you know, and every single day is hard work.

Speaker 1 Like, it's everything's heavy.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I respect people like that and construction workers and stuff. That shit ain't easy, man.
Physical labor, you can't catch me doing that personally, but I respect those guys for sure.

Speaker 1 I mean, it's.

Speaker 1 That's how the world was there. The United States, all these other countries, you know, I mean, you have the people that will do the stuff that you don't want to do.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Absolutely.

Speaker 2 And a lot of it, they get paid that good because it sucks no it sucks but listen plumbers are making 100 150k a year but it's needed man you know toilets clog and people need skilled people like that yeah

Speaker 2 yeah that's cool dude where are you performing next uh i think we're doing

Speaker 1 islamujere is uh in mexico next wow mexico

Speaker 1 so country's big out there It's well, there's a lot of festivals that go on around

Speaker 1 the country and around the world and stuff like that. I mean,

Speaker 1 I was talking to a gentleman the other day about going to Denmark.

Speaker 1 And they're a big country music loving family over there.

Speaker 1 But we're doing Mexico. We're doing Fremont Street in Vegas.

Speaker 2 That's going to do well there.

Speaker 1 In March, we're doing,

Speaker 1 I think we're going down to do Monday after the Masters.

Speaker 1 I think we're doing that.

Speaker 1 We're just trying our best to get to get out there in the world and, you know, just hoping people love it and hoping people love it as much as I do yeah country's blowing up man it's good it's amazing great timing for you too it's amazing to me i mean i've i've never seen more cowboy hats and boots for real you know like even at the inauguration i don't want to get too political but like country was there it was everywhere yeah the artists they hired most of them were country yeah and it's i love seeing it because i mean i grew up in those little shithole honky tonks you know where you know you breathe 72 packs of cigarettes while you're in there in there dancing around and and you start to go into these bars even even not in nashville Nashville and Oklahoma.

Speaker 1 And I go to these bars and people are two-stepping, spinning each other around and doing all this stuff. And I'm like, what is going on?

Speaker 1 And it's just, it's screaming back to how I grew up.

Speaker 1 And it's exciting to me.

Speaker 2 Yeah, it is. There's even country bars coming to Vegas now.
Yeah. Aldean's bringing his bar, I believe.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I saw that. Yeah.
You know, and it makes my heart smile because it brings me back, you know, where everybody grew up, that's their favorite place for the most part.

Speaker 1 And everybody loves where they grew up and everybody,

Speaker 1 but it makes my heart smile because it reminds me of home seeing what people are doing now in different places.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Because you grew up in a real small town.
So you were probably super tight with everyone.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah. Everybody knew everything about you and stuff you didn't want people knowing about you and everything else.

Speaker 2 It's good at that, right? Yeah. I'm on the opposite.
My class had 820 people. Oh, wow.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it was huge.

Speaker 2 But I had cousins in Pennsylvania.

Speaker 2 You know, 50 people. Yeah.
And they were tight with each other. And I would go there and play dodgeball and whatever, and it'd be fun, dude.

Speaker 1 I worked in Pennsylvania for a little while in like Scranton area and stuff like that.

Speaker 1 And it reminded me a lot of home. I could see that.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Because it's a lot of family values.

Speaker 1 It's a little prettier or greener, you know, but Oklahoma's flat and you can watch your dog run off for two weeks. Yeah.
You know, and just,

Speaker 1 but

Speaker 1 I liked Pennsylvania. Yeah.
Shout out to PA.

Speaker 2 Shout out to Quakerstown, Pennsylvania. Yeah.
Small little town up there. But man, you got acres of land.
You got farm animals. You got a tight community.

Speaker 2 Sometimes you could live a very happy life not making that much, I realized. Man,

Speaker 1 people don't realize, and I never knew when I was growing up, I never knew that we were broke.

Speaker 1 Like, I mean, you, you say, if somebody drew, you know,

Speaker 1 you know, somebody came down the road and they had a brand new truck, you're like,

Speaker 1 dang, that guy's got a brand new truck. Right.
You know, and he must be making a bunch of money and all this stuff. And I never knew.

Speaker 1 until this moment that we were broke until I went over to my my grandmother like sheltered me a lot and wouldn't let let me go out you know I was the baby boy you know and so she would never let me go out and do anything or you know on on my prom night my senior year I had to be home at 11 o'clock you know I mean it's it's one of those things but I never knew that we were broke until I my grandmother finally let me go stay at my friend Aaron's house

Speaker 1 and he had a TV in his bedroom

Speaker 1 and I was like

Speaker 1 damn y'all rich

Speaker 1 because I didn't have a TV in my bed we had one TV in the whole house wow you know and and so I got that's that's one of the

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Speaker 1 We never knew it. We didn't care.
You know, we weren't starving to death. We had everything that we needed.
You know, we had clothes. We had shoes.
We had food.

Speaker 1 And, you know, just grew up on a little farm. And, you know, broke was good enough for us, I guess.
You know what I mean? Yeah.

Speaker 2 That's one of the side effects, I think, of social media. Now everyone compares their life to other people's lives.

Speaker 2 So you know if you're broke, basically.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 But back then, you could grow up and realize, oh, you know, this is my life.

Speaker 1 Well, I mean, it was as simple as, you know, if we had steak steak one night of the week or something like that, or, you know,

Speaker 1 we were set. We're like, man, that was great.
That's awesome. You know,

Speaker 1 you didn't worry about anything else.

Speaker 2 Did you know your grandparents were strict at the time or you didn't know until later?

Speaker 1 I didn't realize it. Wow.

Speaker 1 You know, because I mean, I knew, I knew that, you know, they were trying to keep us on the path of, of just, and it wasn't really extremely religious and it wasn't, you know. anything else.

Speaker 1 It was just they're, they're trying to make you a good person, you know, and I didn't realize it at the time because, you know, there was a lot of scoldings and there was a lot of all this, you know, like every parent would do, you know, but I'm glad of that because it made me and built me into the person that I am.

Speaker 1 Yeah. You know, and I think,

Speaker 1 you know, probably shouldn't say this, but I think more kids need more ass whippings

Speaker 1 these days, you know, because I mean,

Speaker 1 when you go to restaurants or you go somewhere, you know, to a public event or something like that, and kids are just going crazy, like now I look at that and I'm like, somebody needs to get that kid.

Speaker 1 Yeah. You know, because like, and it's probably going back to my childhood, but, but I realize now that it made me who I am.
I feel it.

Speaker 1 It made me the person that I am and to respect people and respect people's properties and, you know, their opinions. And it's okay to have your opinion.
It's okay to have whatever, you know, like

Speaker 1 it just made me the person that I am. And I'm thankful that I got my ass whipped when I was a kid.

Speaker 2 I love that, man. Yeah, that perspective is cool.
I got a couple of Spankings growing up. And of course, I hated it at the time.
I was all over the place.

Speaker 2 I was jumping off the walls and like causing a scene. You know, I probably deserved it, to be honest.
I did.

Speaker 1 There's no doubt that I deserved it. Looking back, I'm like, man, I deserved every one of those.

Speaker 2 But you need to have that, that, that respect level of whoever your parents are, whether you're grandparents, parents. Cause if you don't have that, you're just going to do whatever you want.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I mean, when I was in high school, you know, the wave of how to get back at somebody that did you wrong was keying their car, you know, or giving them a flat or whatever.

Speaker 1 And I was just like, man, like the way that I was raised, somebody worked hard to get that, you know, and for you to destroy something that somebody worked hard for is a no-go for me, buddy.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I was never a fan of that keying and flat tires or whatever. That seemed too extreme for me.

Speaker 1 Man, if my grandfather found out I was doing that,

Speaker 1 shit, buddy.

Speaker 2 So, so what would cause you to do that to someone?

Speaker 1 Well, in Oklahoma, it was, you know, somebody, somebody cheated on you in high school or, or, you know, or whatever. And so they would go key their car or something like that.
And And I'm just like,

Speaker 1 and you're in high school at the time, but growing up the way that I grew up is like, grow up, man.

Speaker 1 Like be the bigger person, you know, but then you got to think about that they didn't have the same raising that you had into where it's, you know, my grandparents were on top of me all the time, you know, just making sure that I'm doing what needs to be done.

Speaker 1 And like I said, it wasn't strict and it wasn't like overbearing or anything like that. It was just like, when you say you're going to do something, do it.
And if you need to do it, do it.

Speaker 1 You know? your word is valuable. Absolutely.
It's gold.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Yeah.
There's a limit. I think, you know, they call them helicopter parents when they're too hands-on.
And then you don't want to be the other end.

Speaker 1 I've never heard that term.

Speaker 2 Oh, helicopter. Yeah.
They're up your ass all the time. And then the other way is not any involvement at all.
And then the kid, you know, goes crazy. Yeah.
So you need to find that balance.

Speaker 1 Man, it's, it's just, I feel like more and more every day that the world is just losing grasp of

Speaker 1 just great people, you know, and treat somebody like you want to be treated, you know, and you hear people talking to people and in a tone and I'm like, man, I don't know if you even noticed that you spoke to that person that way.

Speaker 1 You know, it's just like you would, why would you speak to somebody that way? You know, and

Speaker 1 life is beautiful and people are beautiful. So treat it that way.
Absolutely.

Speaker 2 When I went to Nashville for the first time last year, it was my first time ever in the South. Yeah.
First time ever in the South.

Speaker 2 I hear, heard all these people telling me in my ear that it's racist and all this shit, right?

Speaker 2 i didn't experience any of that to be honest man

Speaker 1 i hate that word so much

Speaker 1 you know it's to me it's you know like i said how i grew up is

Speaker 1 you know if if you love somebody you love them

Speaker 1 you know and and it doesn't matter if they're black or white it don't it that like

Speaker 1 love everybody

Speaker 1 i mean and it's that sounds you know and i'm this is not derogatory like hippie-ish

Speaker 1 but like to me it's like man like how can you not care for somebody for them just being a human being? Yeah.

Speaker 1 You know, I can understand if they did something to you, you know, and you don't like that person for the person that he is or, you know, his character or his integrity. But

Speaker 1 Nashville is

Speaker 1 pretty mixed up, you know, with the cultures and everything like that, you know, just making a great environment for people to live. Especially these days.

Speaker 1 I don't think I've experienced it in Nashville.

Speaker 2 No, but you hear all this stuff about the South, you know, it's crazy.

Speaker 2 so people have these frequency notions yeah so you got to be careful yeah but yeah i experienced none of that dude so shout out to nashville nashville is like i've lived there almost 10 years and nashville never ceases to amaze me the energy is something about yeah when i landed there just the energy felt amazing yeah certain cities you land at you could feel it nashville is one of those cities man i I never saw it before and I packed up my bags one night in Oklahoma and I was like, I'm moving to Nashville.

Speaker 1 So I packed everything in the car, drove into Nashville, and it was dark when I got there. And I come over the hill and the first thing I see is the skyline.
And I was like,

Speaker 1 we're doing something because I'd never been anywhere. I'd never lived anywhere else.
You know, I mean, let alone live in a city. Yeah.
You know, big change for you. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 And so when I moved to Nashville, I pulled over the hill and I saw the high, the high rises and the lights and all this stuff. And for the first time in my life, I was like, this is going to work.

Speaker 1 I love that. You know, or if it don't work,

Speaker 1 what level of success are you satisfied with?

Speaker 1 And for me, it's just, like I said, I want to be out running the roads and making people smile and putting some boogie in their boots and, you know, just having a good time. Yeah.

Speaker 2 There's a lot of talent in Nashville, man. I mean, between country and between podcasts, there's a lot of talented people out there.

Speaker 1 There's a lot of talented people there that I've seen that don't really know that they're talented because

Speaker 1 you get so desensitized to great songwriters and living in Nashville and being there every day and living that life that I think the world kind of forgets about them a little bit. Yeah.

Speaker 1 You know, and it's just because that town moves so fast, but it's a small, it's a small town in a big city.

Speaker 1 And there's so many great people that I hope it never happens, but they'll never see the light of day just because there's so many people there doing it that some of these great people that I've seen, they'll just slip through the cracks.

Speaker 1 Wow.

Speaker 2 Yeah, it's a competitive industry too. And you need the right team around you.
There's a lot of different factors, right? The timing. Yeah.
It's not easy. I mean, you've been at this for how long now?

Speaker 1 Man, I've been playing music for and

Speaker 1 singing most of my life, but I mean, I've been doing it professionally

Speaker 1 probably

Speaker 1 11, 12 years. Wow.

Speaker 2 That's nuts. Not a lot of people are willing to dedicate that much time to something, you know?

Speaker 1 Well, you got to really want it.

Speaker 1 Yeah, No, facts, you got to really want to do it, you know, and and there's good days and there's bad days, you know, there's there's days when you wake up and and you're like, man, is this is this going to work or not?

Speaker 1 You know, but I've never been labeled as a quitter on anything ever in my life, and and so

Speaker 1 if you tell me that I can't have it, watch me, yeah, you know, if, and if you don't want to help me do it, I'll do it by myself, you know, and that's that's just the way that I that I've always looked at it.

Speaker 1 And when you love music as much as I love music, and the reason I love music so much is because

Speaker 1 you can hear a song that you haven't heard in forever, or you've never heard it in your life. And it can change the mood that you're in.

Speaker 2 Facts.

Speaker 1 And I just,

Speaker 1 it can take you any place. Like

Speaker 1 when you hear a song that you haven't heard from middle school, you know, you remember where you were at, what you were doing, who you were with, you know, and all that.

Speaker 1 And I don't know if there's anything else that does me that way just music and food like we're bringing it back full surgical now

Speaker 1 those two things man you know i mean we used we used to have do you like moon pies i've have i had one that sounds familiar what what is it it's just like a chocolate covered flaky and it's got marshmallow in the middle no i haven't had one i heard of it though so that was a big thing in oklahoma growing up so every every sunday before church My grandfather would take me to the flea market and he would get me a Yoohoo and a moon pie.

Speaker 1 I have had Yoohoos.

Speaker 2 The chocolate milk, right?

Speaker 2 Yeah. And the moon pies.
Okay, so Amish people make those, right? Yeah, I believe so. Yeah.
Yeah, that's how I know about it.

Speaker 1 I don't know that.

Speaker 2 I saw it at an Amish farm once, I think.

Speaker 1 Oh, you probably know that. Yeah.
I mean, I just ate the shit out of them.

Speaker 1 But, but my grandfather would get me a Yoohoo and a Moon Pie.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 then I later on in Nashville, I got to do some shows that was sponsored by Moon Pie, and they put my face on the side of the box. Wow.
And all this stuff.

Speaker 1 And it's just like the full circle thing that you're talking about is like food music you know things like that and my girlfriend had never had a moon pie

Speaker 1 and now her nickname is moon pie for a reason I love this it you know and so it was there's not a lot of things that that will make me smile more than great food and good people and music yeah you know it's just

Speaker 2 And that's why you don't screw people over, guys, because there's so many full circle moments when I look back on my life.

Speaker 2 Like even with this podcast, the guests I'm having on are people I watched when I was a kid. Like that's 15, 20 year full circle moment.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 So I never burn bridges, never scam, never do any bad business with people. You know, your reputation is important.

Speaker 1 Even when it probably deserves, oh, there's been people that deserve it for sure. Yeah.

Speaker 2 I've been fucked over for sure.

Speaker 1 You know, and it's

Speaker 1 which I mean, and you can agree with me on this. Like it is, it's way harder to be.

Speaker 1 a dick

Speaker 1 than it is to be a good person. I think it's way harder.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 You know, like I just Because you got to put in so much effort to be a dick.

Speaker 1 I mean,

Speaker 1 there's been times where I have been, but it was warranted.

Speaker 1 You know, I think everybody's had those days where, you know, but in the music business and in your line of work as well and a lot of other, you know, lines of work, you know, you're not allowed to have a bad day.

Speaker 1 You have to show up for people because people are showing up for you. Right.
You know, and so if you're having a shit day, tough shit. Yeah, you can't, you can't get over it.

Speaker 1 get over it.

Speaker 2 Yeah, you can't show that in your space, right? Because it'll affect the way you perform. Absolutely.
Damn, that must be tough.

Speaker 1 You know, I mean, there's always a part of it, you know, in the music business to where, you know, you've met people that was one of your heroes, you know, and they turned out to be an asshole.

Speaker 2 Hear that all the time in movies and acting, too.

Speaker 1 Movies, you know, and, and so,

Speaker 1 and that might have been a bad day for that person.

Speaker 2 True.

Speaker 1 You know, but the word of mouth travels so fast.

Speaker 1 And a lot of times you know people don't care and i don't care i mean if you if you tell me you're having a bad day i'm like i'm sorry buddy how can i how can i help you you know along today right buy you beer you need a dip of snuff like what do you need you need a pat on the back you need a cry or a hug you know i got you and but you know it's one of one of those things where you know like it's i've met people that i wish i never had met

Speaker 2 yeah because when because of a bad day or yeah when you put these people on a pedestal right people you look up to and then you meet them it's like you kind of get let down no matter what because you idolized them.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I mean, because

Speaker 1 I always wanted to be these people that I saw, you know, and the people that I idolize as musical heroes. And I always wanted to be those, you know, in their shoes.

Speaker 1 I wanted to experience what they were feeling while these people are yelling their songs and having a great time.

Speaker 1 And you meet that person and you're like, that just killed all of those memories

Speaker 1 that were positive, you know?

Speaker 1 And so,

Speaker 1 yeah, be careful what you wish for.

Speaker 2 Absolutely. No, you hear this.
It doesn't even have to be music artists, just with anyone you look up to, dude.

Speaker 1 Yeah. It's crazy.

Speaker 2 Yeah. So now just, I just treat everyone the same, dude.
Yeah. You know, no one.

Speaker 1 Are you a music lover?

Speaker 2 I used to be

Speaker 2 not as much anymore, you know, if I'm being honest.

Speaker 1 And country wasn't huge where I grew up.

Speaker 2 We kind of got a little, do you consider Taylor Swift like country?

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah, of course.

Speaker 2 Okay. Cause I know some people are like, no, she's not anymore.

Speaker 1 Well, she started out really, really country. Yeah.

Speaker 1 So that was like what i saw people listening to but not anything else past that where i i mean i don't i don't get into the politics of things but because

Speaker 1 you know a it's your opinion yeah you know what you're entitled to but like i just don't get in dog fights with people about about music or politics or religion and all this stuff i'm like at the end of the day i respect you for what you believe and do the same for me yeah you know but i think taylor started out really country i think so too you know yeah now i listen to it with intention like if i'm going to my basketball game which i had one last night I'll put on a playlist to get me pissed, get me angry, you know,

Speaker 2 stuff like that. If I'm trying to relive some old moments, I'll play some 2000s pop, whatever.
So yeah, I have more intention these days. So you're a hooper? I am.

Speaker 1 Are you? I used to play. Oh, yeah?

Speaker 2 What was your...

Speaker 1 I was a shooting guard. Okay.
Yeah. And

Speaker 1 I was talking to Marcus and he was like, you ever been to Australia? And I was like, I played basketball in Australia.

Speaker 2 Oh, so you were nice.

Speaker 1 So I did like this international tournament and I played in Honolulu and I played in Sydney. wow and so i was like when when they said international i'm like you said hawaii

Speaker 1 like

Speaker 1 you know it's what i'm thinking in my head and they were like no no you're going you're going to sydney also so i i loved basketball and i would never miss a michael jordan game oh

Speaker 1 and

Speaker 1 i sean kemp uh

Speaker 1 you know but then you go back to the greats like dr j and like all these people you know but like some of my favorites when i went home for for christmas this year my my grandmother was saying hey you still got a bunch of stuff out there in a tote that i found in the closet and i open it up and it's got my um orlonzo morning jersey in it wow it had charles barkley from the magic and the sons damn in there and i had um

Speaker 1 I can't remember what

Speaker 1 the dream team jersey was.

Speaker 2 Dream team.

Speaker 1 Was that the USA team? Yep. Yep.
Pippin.

Speaker 1 it wasn't Pippin, I don't remember which one it was, but I took all of them back to Nashville with me. It's actually right here, so if you can point them out,

Speaker 2 uh, Stockton, no, it wasn't John, uh, Larry Bird, Robinson.

Speaker 1 Oh, it's Robinson, it was Robinson, yeah, nice, and and so, but yeah, I mean, but they're all like this big,

Speaker 1 you know, when I was younger, because when I graduated high school, I was six foot, 127 pounds. Wow, and you were skinny, small, damn, and and so

Speaker 1 my grandfather's brother that passed away the same year that I was born, he was 6'7.

Speaker 1 So when I hit eighth grade and I was six foot, I was like, man, we're tall. We're tall.

Speaker 2 I was pretty tall in eighth grade, actually. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And I never grew another damn inch. Oh,

Speaker 1 peaked in eighth grade. Eighth grade, bro.

Speaker 2 Damn, that's young. I still grew till I was like 20.
How tall are you now?

Speaker 1 Six, six, six, seven.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Yeah, but I was growing in college.

Speaker 1 Oh, really? Yeah.

Speaker 2 Wow, six foot and eighth is tall, though. You were probably dunking in middle school then.

Speaker 1 Man, I was, I was dunking.

Speaker 1 So my,

Speaker 1 this is insane to think, and it still aggravates the shit out of me this day.

Speaker 1 I never got my first dunk until I was in Hawaii

Speaker 1 when I was playing. And because like I could get just high enough to where I couldn't get the ball through the cylinder.

Speaker 1 And so, I mean,

Speaker 1 hundreds of days. that I can remember my wrist being sore from banging it off the rim, but I never made one.

Speaker 2 It would always back iron because i couldn't literally get it down because the ball's so big yeah you had the height probably but you just couldn't grasp couldn't get it down it

Speaker 1 so it pissed me off for so long all my buddies are dunking in high school and all this stuff and they're like dude like you haven't like and i get fast breaks in the game and stuff like that and just lay it up oh they always give me for that you know just

Speaker 2 every time i'm wide open they want me to dunk it and you never

Speaker 1 i mean i'm gassed sometimes you know it's late game like or you're between steps and you're trying to figure out yeah you can get the height sometimes it's awkward with the steps Yeah, but no, I love hooping bro ball is life Well, I seen the I seen the goal that was out front and as soon as we was walking up I was bumping into him

Speaker 2 I love it man.

Speaker 1 Yeah men's league I look forward to every single week dude you when you come to Nashville just come like I played in the league last year

Speaker 1 and realized for the first time in 10 years, I was like, dude, this is not for you anymore. Because my knees don't have it anymore.

Speaker 1 And so like we get out there and we're playing in Sea League, pretty much beer ball. Yeah.
And they're throwing throwing the rock to me and all this stuff. And I'm trying to cross people over.

Speaker 1 And I'm like, that was slow as shit.

Speaker 2 You know, like, I hope their minds, they can fast up in your body.

Speaker 1 And then the first game, we show up to Sea League. These guys are full court pressing this and stuff like this.
And I'm like,

Speaker 1 hey, man, can we just calm down just a little bit?

Speaker 2 Well, I'll show up and we'll win for sure.

Speaker 1 Yeah. So.

Speaker 2 Sea League. Wow.
They're full court pressing us. They don't even do that at the Lifetime League where I play right now.

Speaker 1 It was amazing because there was three or four guys we played the whole season. There was three or four guys on each team that could walk on to any damn college.
And there's people out there.

Speaker 1 There's people out there dunking on us and shit. And I'm like, wait a minute.
What kind of Sea League is this? I thought this was pickup. Yeah.

Speaker 1 You know, I thought we were, you know, like, you're not breaking down and, you know, trying to guard me, you know, trying to press on me and shit when I'm trying to get a board.

Speaker 1 Okay, so Nashville got Hoopers, Hoopers out.

Speaker 2 I mean, if that's the Sea League, I can't even imagine A-lead.

Speaker 1 That's what I told him. That's what I told him.

Speaker 1 I was was like, man, if this is Sea League, I want to come watch an A-league game.

Speaker 1 Because any of those dudes could go play college at any major college and they would have them. Yeah.
You know? That's nuts, man. And so we were at Red Door the other night.

Speaker 1 We were walking into Red Door and my buddy Connor that works there, he's 6'6 or 6' of them.

Speaker 1 And we played together. And he goes, he goes, man, you going to play this year? And I was like, man, I don't think so, dude.
I don't think I'm going to have time. And he goes, yeah, we're back in.

Speaker 1 We're back in. And all this.
And we had guys that played college. Yeah.
You know, all this stuff. and these guys are beating us by 20 in series

Speaker 1 and i told him i was like man i don't think i was like i was like by the way i was like that league's

Speaker 1 you know it just reminded me you know but

Speaker 1 you're funny have you ever played against anybody from australia no i can't say i have any big aussies different style though right oh man like yeah i never realized how good i wasn't

Speaker 1 you know and and so just big strong fast you know more physical right oh yeah very much so It's a different game in Europe, too.

Speaker 1 Yeah, when we were in Sydney, I realized because, I mean, six foot, I never grew, you know,

Speaker 1 and so I'm playing against these Aussies that are six, six, six, seven. And when they come down, they get a board, they come down, their elbow is right,

Speaker 1 you know? Yeah.

Speaker 2 So, but I mean, 6'6 is like the average height these days in the NBA.

Speaker 1 I know. I grew up playing center.

Speaker 2 I'm like short for center now. I can't play center anymore.

Speaker 1 Dude, my Oklahoma City Thunder is making a push this year. You're nice this year.
They might win it, bro. I'm not not going to lie.

Speaker 1 I hope Shea gets the MVP.

Speaker 2 They're looking unbeatable right now. I don't know who could stop them personally.

Speaker 1 I mean, dude, we're beating people by 20, 25, 30.

Speaker 2 You guys only lost, what, seven games?

Speaker 1 Seven games.

Speaker 2 Oh, wait. Maybe the

Speaker 1 Cavaliers are good this season. The Cavs are good.
I thought the Bucs were going to give them some trouble.

Speaker 2 Bucks are streaky, man. Sometimes they'll be really good, but we'll see what happens.

Speaker 1 I hope we get it. I mean, honestly, because Oklahoma City, I remember going to Oklahoma City and watching it when the Hornets were there, when the Hurricane came through.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 And so they were playing there.

Speaker 1 And it's funny because there used to be such this really cool, groovy music scene for country music and red dirt music in Oklahoma City.

Speaker 1 So you'd go watch Thunder game and walk out and go into a honky-tonk and watch somebody play some country.

Speaker 1 And you like, that was right up my alley, you know, music and basketball and all that, you know? But now all those things are, all those good bars are gone.

Speaker 1 But we've never won a title and I just would love that for the city.

Speaker 2 I would love it for you guys.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you need one.

Speaker 2 That would bring the city together. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. And Oklahoma city's growing and and

Speaker 1 i don't know like everybody's asked me what's my favorite nfl team and i'm like i'm like well it's the titans now because like we i never had an nfl team in oklahoma you know yeah they never had one that's a good point and so i mean i love sports didn't really matter what it is i'll watch it you know yeah but but i hope we get it this year absolutely justin it's been awesome man where can people keep up with you

Speaker 1 uh justin andrews music on uh on all platforms and and man thank you so much for having me absolutely that was blasting part two in natural Some food together. Yeah, let's do it.

Speaker 2 Let's do it. Thanks for watching, guys.
Check them out. See ya.