Digital Hustle Secrets from a Top Creator | Jenna Lee DSH #1313

Uh, no, that's not true.

Do y'all take self?

No, it's personality.

So many ugly men get pussy as long as they're confident. I think men lack confidence these days because they don't know how to talk to women anymore because they don't have social interaction because they're sitting in front of a screen for too long.
It's all confidence. Any man can get with a woman if he's confident enough.
Really? Oh, yeah. Hey, guys.
In Austin with an OF content creator, Jenna Lee. Thanks for hopping on today.
Thank you so much for having me. I'm excited to be here.
Yeah, it's going to be an interesting one. You've been busy lately? I'm always busy.
I'm an OG OF girl. How long you been in the...
Well, since the inception, 2016. Wow.
Yeah. That's the longest I've heard, actually.
It's the longest that's possible. What sold you on it so quick? Because a lot of girls, I felt like, joined late.
Right. Because they were about the money.
Yeah. When COVID hit, they just wanted to make a quick buck.
I pretty much graduated from college and got a nine to five and had never been more depressed in my entire life. I worked in an office full of men.
Some of the men were even younger than me and they were getting promotions. And one of the VPs was making like hundreds of thousands of dollars a year.
And he was literally 20 years old. And I was like, it was so misogynistic in there.
I was like, I'm never going to get a promotion here. So why don't I just go take their money elsewhere? You know what I mean? Yeah.
So that's when I thought I could do this. And it just like popped off immediately when I joined.
Damn. Yeah.
Because I didn't know if they had the user base back then. So I did because before OnlyFans, that was actually a different platform that I was on called Findro, a super old platform.
And I had built a fan base on there in 2014. So, for two years I was accumulating fans.
So when OF dropped, I just shifted them all over. Got it.
And back then was the stigma as bad as it is now? Worse. Oh, it's worse.
Yeah. But back then I treated it.
Do you remember Tumblr? Yeah, I never used it, but I know. It used to be just me like with my coffee, very like, wasn't even showing any nudes.
So people thought I was really shy and I was, I kind of grew like with my coffee very like wasn't even showing any nudes so people thought i was really shy and i was i kind of grew up with them so i wasn't even doing nudes for like two years straight so when i even like dropped a nip slip the first nip slip i dropped boom i made like 20k that day what so i was like what if i dropped both nips out would that be 40k and then it just escalated from there i feel like that's how it progresses some girls like start out and go full throttle immediately and that's just the wrong play you're going to be full of regret and you're not going to leave anything to the imagination so my entire business model was leave as much to the imagination as possible and i was really able to like harness that and monetize it that way what stage are you at now are you doing full on i'm not at full throttle yet. I got that in my back pocket still for a rainy day.
Okay. Wow.
And it's been nine years. So you're really holding out.
So, you know, I don't know, but I never plan on quitting. I feel like people are always like, what's your 10 year plan? Or what are you going to do when you're old? And I'm like, have you heard of a cougar or a milf? Like I'm going to be a milf doing doing this why would i ever stop producing something that's creating uh passive income yeah right so i got that in my back pocket for a rainy day how difficult has this made uh your dating life i don't really care today i like having fun more um i think i am too difficult today and i don't really like taking it seriously and i like using other guys for content so i love that you can't like it's just like more fun for me if i like i have a lot of like friendships and fuck buddies yeah and so i don't really want to settle down i came from a home like a home of like divorce yes right, uncles, like everyone's divorced.
So I just never really valued marriage. Now I can value like a long-term life partner, but I don't think I would ever get married for that reason.
So I just don't take relationships seriously. Wow.
So you believe in friends with benefits? I believe in friends with benefits. And I also don't want kids.
I've never wanted kids. I think it would actually be really toxic to have children in this space.
To raise them around nudity at such a young age. Like as an adult, it's normal for me.
But you do have to kind of like age yourself into it. So the fact that I don't want kids also makes it really easy not to like take dating too seriously.
Yeah. I how Adam 22's and Lennis' kids are going to turn out.
Well, I hope that they shield their child from what they do. I'm sure that they do, but there will come a time when their child will grow up and see what they're doing.
It's unavoidable. Right.
And that goes for anybody, right? There's so many women and men in this industry that do have children that are going to kind of have to have that tough interaction when they're older and they do see the content. So I just saw this crazy stat the other day.
1.2 million women use OnlyFans. You know that? You think that's low? I thought that was high.
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Creators. Creators, yeah.
I felt like that was high. I felt like that's low.
It like, because didn't OnlyFans creators make more money the nba uh if you average it out but that's because the top ones are making so much yeah like bad baby or whatever allegedly and you and who knows cardi b i don't know who's yeah bad baby how much does she make i saw crazy numbers like 50 something million and she said she unfortunately lately said that she doesn't even have like the will to live anymore because she made so much money. She doesn't do anything.
Wow. She's bought everything.
She's done everything. She's gone everywhere.
And she just doesn't really care to do much anymore. That sucks.
I know. So it's kind of like you want to make a lot of money, but you don't want to make too much to where you like lose the lust for life.
Yeah. Well, I think it's like a real thought.
You know, I still like to have drive in me to make more and progress. But imagine if you made two, three, four hundred million.
Like, what do you do then?

I think it depends the speed on how you make it and who you are beforehand.

Right.

Because I've had on Amaranth, who has made over 70 million.

Yes.

And she seems like she's pretty level headed.

Well, she did just recently post her like crypto portfolio. Yeah.
That's not very level-headed. Well, yeah, you saw she got robbed.
Yeah, somebody held her at gunpoint or some shit like that. Yeah, so she went on my show the week before and Fresh and Fit.
I don't know which show it was, but someone watched it. Yeah.
She revealed the crypto portfolio. Why would...
I don't think that's a coincidence.

Yeah.

So I felt...

But I think people don't really talk about safety

in this industry as much as they should.

Like, stalkers are so real.

I live my entire life based around

potentially having a stalker

because I have had one before.

Damn.

So I had a stalker once.

It was the most traumatizing thing

that I've ever been through.

I had to move three different times. He found me every time.
How'd he find you? I was living alone as a female in a city. I don't know.
I think he would psychologically trick people that I knew into thinking that he was a friend of mine to get my information. Damn.
And I changed my phone number multiple times. He came to my house.
He would always slash my tires so I couldn't leave. And then what he did was he served me papers just to get me to court so he could see me again.
What? Yes. So here I am in court.
You have to go claiming that I was stalking him. And obviously they have, they're like, sir, she does not communicate with you.
Like this not gonna go through but afterwards he ended up killing himself because i wouldn't be with him holy crap so just knowing that like that could have been me now i live my life like so carefully and i feel like other creators i mean as an adult content creator or like a hot girl on internet, you're essentially selling the girlfriend experience. Like a lot of these men really think they're in full-blown relationships with you.
And I think you need to take that more seriously regarding the fact that they think that they can show up at your front door. Yeah.
They call it parasocial relationship, right? Because they see so much of you, they think they know you all night. And then they show up and act like your friend or your boyfriend or whatever.
That's wild. Did you feel kind of guilty or any? No, it was like such as, it was so relieving knowing that he had died.
Damn. I had never been more relieved.
It was like the first time I could breathe in like two years. This went on for years.
Damn. He got registered at my college, got the same schedule as me, and was in every one of my classes to be next to me.
What? Yes. He might have been a hacker or something to know what classes you were in.
It was weird because it wasn't the first day of class. It was like a weekend.
You know, you can kind of like change your schedules. It was terrifying.
So when he killed himself, I was really, really. So you didn't get a restraining order or anything? I couldn't.
Why? It's so hard for women to get restraining orders on men. Really? I thought it was easy.
Because basically, like I had my brother say like, you need to leave her alone or I'm going to kick your ass or whatever. Yeah.
To the judge that basically shows that I don't fear for my life if I have someone. All right.
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Huh? That's weird. Yeah, very.
I don't know if I agree with that call. Oh, restraining orders need to be much easier to obtain.
It's criminal how hard they are for women to get. I guess it's state by state.
I always assumed they were easy. If you just like went to the police, you could get one.
Nope. So do you need evidence or? I had literally photos of my tires slashed, everything.
And it was the fact that like, I remember one time I woke up to 80 missed phone calls. Oh my gosh.
And this was years ago. I forget what I said.
I just responded like, please leave me alone or something. And then the fact that I communicated with him was the reason I couldn't get a restraining order.
That's nuts. Yeah.
So you're not doing fan meetups, are you? Hell no. Who's doing fan meetups? Lily Phillips is.
And she's banging them too. She's new.
She's new. She's too new for some shit to have gone down yet.
Yeah. Yeah, you're right.
She's only a year into it. Yep.
I don't know how that's going to end. But yeah, she did a fan meetup at AVN, banged 50 guys.
At AVN? Doing anal, yeah. An anal gangbang.
I don't know how her pussy keeps up with it, man. Well, that was her ass.
But yeah, she does the hundredth day with the pussy. And yeah, I don't know.
That's a lot. Yeah.
I mean, like we got a ph balance you know like is she all right yeah well if they all get tested allegedly and they all wear protection but yeah i don't know seems crazy she's going for a thousand in uh the uk i think this week yeah but like have we done the math on the timing of that like how many yeah each guy i think she so for she, so for the hunter, she gave five minutes each. Yeah.
And then I think she said for a thousand, she has to do two minutes each. So you got like, when do you like drink water and pee and like eat? Yeah.
I don't know. Yeah.
Somebody's got to do the math on that. Lily.
Love you. Are you sure? Did you collab with her? I saw you on IG with her the other day.
It was interesting.ly phillips on her social media says she doesn't like posting anything raunchy because she likes to save it for her of she likes to leave something for the imagination which is fine because instagram is so safe so her and i did like super safe instagram stuff okay but i was like girl please move to the united states so we can like collab for real i loved her well the Well, the border stopped her. Did she tell you that? Yeah.
She's a little too famous. And it's kind of scary in this industry.
Like you want to get all the views in the world because the more views you make, the more income you obviously get. But you don't want to get too famous because then scary shit starts happening.
So there's like a fine line you don't want to cross. And I actively work on not crossing also.
There are so many collabs and events and stuff that I turn down because I don't want to be too much in the public eye. And I like doing a lot of solo stuff specifically for my safety.
Yeah, you do good. Which prevents me from reaching my full potential financially.
But I can sleep at night knowing that like nobody's going to show up. No, that makes sense though because you do really well at that because I just found out about you like a few weeks ago, but you've been doing this for nine years.
Yeah. So that's impressive.
I'm really low key. I like living like a super normal life.
I feel like people think OF girls are just crazy and they're like always in Miami like on a guy's yacht. And it's like, I'm in my backyard gardening, actually.
Leave me alone, world. So you like doing your thing solo.
I do my thing solo. Yeah.
I struggle with really bad anxiety, which developed into agoraphobia. Do you know what that is? Yeah.
I had it for two months. That's it? How long was yours? I still have it.
You still have it? Yeah. Oh, wow.
Do you know what i'm on to be here xanax no i take a lot of something called l-theanine i just pounded i take like a thousand milligrams all natural it is i take a thousand milligrams just to get out of the house yeah symbiotica just sent me some of that oh it's it will depends on what brand you take okay it's kind of like matcha like there's ceremonial grade and then there's a shitty kind so you gotta get like the cleanest um i didn't know that helps with anxiety because people Oh, it. It's kind of like matcha.
Like, there's ceremonial grade, and then there's a shitty kind. So you've got to get, like, the cleanest.

I didn't know that helped with anxiety.

Oh, it, like, just levels you to feel normal.

And I highly recommend it because most things for anxiety make you feel tired or sleepy or zone out.

I feel like Jenna when I'm on it.

Yeah, because you probably have PTSD from the stalkers, if that makes sense.

Well, I actually have PTSD.

Well, yeah, but I have PTSD from a car accident. Oh, accident, which happened in 2016.
And I haven't driven a car since. So I don't have a driver's license.
I haven't had a driver's license in like years. So if you don't have a driver's license, it prevents you from leaving the house.
And then when you do leave the house is because someone else is driving you, which means you never leave the house alone. So it's just like a slippery slope and it can get kind of like dark and scary which has allowed me to fucking crush it on only fans because all i do is sit at home all day and create content you know what i mean dm 100 people yeah i'm on there but uh yeah anxiety really fucked me up uh and it still does but how did you get over your agoraphobia mine was a lawsuit inducedinduced.
So I was dealing with a lawsuit. Okay.
So it was like situational? Situational, yes. But as soon as the lawsuit settled, it kind of like slowly went away.
Okay. And you didn't have to take anything for it? I think I was on like Xanax at the time, but I got off it because fuck Xanax, dude.
Yeah, no, I don't like anything that doesn't make me feel like myself. No, that messed me up.
I literally blacked out for a month. Yeah.
I don't remember anything. Wow.
Xanax really messes you up. Yeah.
How's your mental health now with doing all this? It's better. I still have a little anxiety, but it's situational.
It's not chronic. You know your triggers.
Yeah. Before it was daily, but now it's like if something happens to me, it might creep up a little bit.
Yeah. Yeah.
Mine used to be chronic to where I would just wake up trembling. Yeah, same.
Trembling. Yeah yeah same trembling yeah it was bad yeah real bad i thought my whole world was in i feel like our generation is just like super fucked with mental health i think well yeah we're on the internet oh yeah they're doing study that don't get notified you know when i feel my best is when i just go outside and i i'm really good at just ditching my phone because like my screen time is like seven hours a day then like one day i'll just be like one day a week i'm like screw it and i i don't even care to be on it really feel so much better that's impressive i think because i'm just like so dialed with all my shit i know i have everything i need to do done that i could just literally throw it away and like everything's fine that's solid yeah i'm at about eight nine hours a day which is pretty crazy that's like almost the whole day you're up yeah mine's seven i've never heard of anybody higher

than mine well i'm working though so that's my excuse no me too yeah i'm not well scrolling

is work i have to let us keep up with the trends no scrolling's work for us because i'm looking

for guests i'm looking for trending topics yeah if you if you don't scroll on your phone all day

don't you start itching yeah no i literally i'm like fiending to scroll like refreshing twitter

i'm refreshing to talk yeah twitter's been down today and i'm like oh it's down today i'm like

Thank you. all day don't you start itching yeah no i literally i'm like fiending to scroll like refreshing twitter i'm refreshing yeah talk yeah twitter's been down today and i'm like oh it's damn twitter's my favorite right now my twitter is all just like people fucking and i don't know how to get off oh i can't run of that on my twitter how do i get that off my algorithm you have to start liking other shit i know yeah yeah but i have to post my sexy shit so it never it never gets on what i actually want it to be and yeah because they let you post whatever on twitter yeah i don't get that side of twitter at all well i you're not posting your butt cheeks so i don't imagine you would i mean what would happen if you did i'd make a lot of money but it wouldn't be worth it my i'm about to get married she'd be pissed oh.
Is she cool with you? What's that dynamic like? She's super private. Yeah.
Yeah. So like people don't even know, but yeah, I've been dating her for eight years.
Really? Yeah. And you're going to get married? Yeah, this year.
I never thought I was against it. You were against marriage? Well, as a guy, like when you have a lot of money and like fame, there's a lot of downsides to getting married.
Well, as a girl with a lot of money, there's also a lot of guys to getting married. Yeah, it's not even a sex thing.
It's just, like, if you have a lot of assets. Isn't it funny how it turns into a guy thing, though? Well, people assume, yeah.
It's really interesting, like, being a woman that makes millions of dollars. Yeah.
Like, when you go to date, it's just kind of like every woman that I know that makes millions of dollars.

They if you're watching your favorite IG girl, her man is the one filming her. They all are in relationships and all of these men do nothing but support their women and shoot their content and like mooch off of their women.

But they work for them.

Which it is work.

It is work.

But it's like the women is the the woman is always the breadwinner. And then their man is kind of like following them.
I don't think I could do that. It doesn't get my pussy wet.
I'll do that. But it's like a successful man in my tax bracket doesn't want anything to do with me because of what I do for work.
So that's another reason. Yeah.
Single. It's like a catch 22.
It is a catch 22. I heard women that make a ton of money struggle dating, not even just in your industry.
I'm sure because we are in our masculine energy and, you know, biologically we want to be in our feminine energy. It's interesting.
Like I make millions of dollars, but like sometimes I don't want to, I want to be taken care of just because I'm a woman. Right.
I don't want to have to like take care of a man. Yeah.
You want to be in your feminine energy. Yeah.
What do you think of Andrew Tate and Elon Musk style of like, I guess, just having a bunch of kids with multiple women? Because Andrew has over 10. Elon's got 14.
The only reason I think that's weird is because like I grew up with like a weird father figure dynamic and, you know, it's not healthy to have like an absent father. So the only reason I think it's weird is because there's no way they can be present for all of their children.
And I get that Elon like wants to repopulate the earth with his genetics. And like, that's fine.
Cause I think he's a good person and I, I stand for what he's doing, Elon, but his child is going to have daddy issues. All of them.
One's already trans. Yeah.
So Tate'sate's philosophy because i just had him on he basically said an hour with him is worth more than like 40 hours with average man no because his uh knowledge i guess you know yeah no but like it still takes time to build relationships like that kid's not going to trust him or being with him for like two seconds during the day yeah like I spent every other weekend with my father and we weren't close. So according to Andrew Tate, he should have been like my God.
Yeah. My parents got divorced when I was 10 and I only saw my father on like every other weekend.
And I definitely lacked like that father. But my father was like a full blown alcoholic and died from alcohol.
Oh shit. Yeah.
Yeah. So like when I was with him, he like still wasn't even present yeah so that doesn't even count yeah yeah my my girlfriend always gives me shit for that because like we'll be next to each other on the couch but i'll be working on my phone so she doesn't count it doesn't count no have you ever gone to dinner and put your phone down and like looked her in the eyes it's like oh shit you know what i used to do when i was in a relationship if i needed quality time I would make my man play a card game with me because like you have to be in the moment and it's like a good way to connect with somebody for a short period of time.
And it feels like quality time. Smart.
But you're not like bored. Yeah, I don't know.
But just movies don't interest me anymore. TV shows.
No, my God, I can't watch a movie. I'm on my phone the whole movie.
I can't watch a movie. I don't know what it is.
TikTok brain, they call it. Yeah.
It's just like so slow. How do we get rid of it? I just posted I actually missed my pre-internet brain the other day.
I know. I used to be able to watch Harry Potter straight beginning to end and be excited.
Now it's like I watched this 10 years ago. I don't get excited anymore.
Do you? Not as much as I used to. I don't get excited at all about anything.
I wonder if that's a desensitization thing because of social media. Well, I think like our dopamine and serotonin is like drained.
Yeah. It's like fried.
I'm actually looking into a dopamine detox. Have you heard of those? Yeah.
No, I need, I'm more of like a supplement person. I need to like take supplements for dopamine.
Oh yeah. Which I heard saffron is a good supplement to do that, but I don't feel it's potent enough.
It's just like I need something sympathetic. You need some psychedelics.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Have you done those? I haven't.
Just because my anxiety is so bad, I know for a fact my brain will be like, you're getting eaten by an anaconda or like some shit. Like I would go into it as it being a bad trip, so I just can't let myself out myself do it and my brain doesn't do good on pot or weed or anything same especially edibles oh the worst i get messed up i get so messed up i can't see anyone i gotta go in a corner and just sleep i fainted once from taking an edible so you want me to do psychedelics absolutely not yeah but uh have you ever like microdose mushrooms yes they make you like a little you know what that makes me a little happy yeah i like microdosing because you're not tripping balls yeah you're kind of just like productive yeah i don't even notice it sometimes i forget i do it honestly yeah no i got a little it made me a little too giggly once i like had to go to a dinner with my mom yeah um she was on it too so it was wow it was fun interesting relationship yeah that's an interesting one with your mother she's very christian very straight laced so when i first started only fans i wasn't doing nudes remember so she was like that's fine honey um but now like she's retired she's like sorry mom smoking pot, whatever.
Yeah. That's interesting.
When you did the nude stuff, did that mess up the relationship? You know, like I don't update my family on my content. It's not like I'm calling my mom up and I'm like, Hey, you know what? I'm going to do an orgy today.
I just said, I'll let you know. You know what I mean? So I don't really update people on what I'm doing.
She doesn't know. You have to subscribe.
Well, I guess she does now. But I think my family sees how successful I am.
So they wouldn't dare say shit to me. And if they ever did say shit to me, it doesn't matter.
I don't really take what they say seriously just because of my childhood. So like they can't really tell me how to live my life or like give me their opinion.
They wouldn't dare give me their opinions. I'm kind of stone cold to them.
Damn. Yeah.
Yeah. I don't really fuck around with people telling me what to do.
Yeah. Especially the trauma they put you through.
I guess you put some blame on them, right? Yeah. As a matter of fact, mom, you sit down.
Let me tell you what to do today. When she comes to my house, I'm like, take your shoes off.
Well, it's cyclical, right? So she probably went through her own trauma. She pulls her shoes off, yeah.
Yeah.

Would you quit OF if someone gave you $10 million?

No.

Really? You know, I went to college and I took a finance course and they teach you like the greatest source of income is passive income.

So I think I'm doing what I was taught.

Society doesn't think OnlyFans are girls being productive in society, but this is what I was taught to do in school. Also, with the amount of money I make and have to give back in taxes, what we give back to the communities even, but also 10 mil, that's not going to last me.
It's not going to last me until after retirement. Yeah, depending on your lifestyle, right? Yeah, so I would continue.
Or the least games winner just got 10 mil. I just saw a video of him.
Did they get paid out though? Yeah, he did. But the problem is he lives in Cali.
So he's only getting 5 mil after taxes. Oh, yeah.
I won a game show once. Oh, you did? I won $12,000.
It was so adorable. It was like the cutest game show ever.
And I only went home with $7,000 because of taxes. Wow.
So they took it out, right? I mean, with taxes, you usually get write-offs, right? With specifically with like game show earnings, there's no chance to write anything off. So they take the full amount that they can from you.
Yeah. So I think he got wrecked because he's in Cali, so the state tax is 15%.

Yeah.

I mean, Austin is zero, right,

for state tax?

Oh, zero.

Yeah, but they fuck you

with property taxes.

Oh, really?

Dude, property tax is so crazy.

It just makes up for it.

How much is it here?

My house is...

Oh, I don't know the percentage

of property tax.

Yeah, Vegas is decent.

It's the highest in the country.

Oh, shit. Yeah, editor.

Put it on the screen. Which is wild because Texas

has hella land.

Yeah. So that's an interesting

reason. I guess because there's no state tax, they just

try to make it up. There's no state tax, yeah.
Wow.

Is there an amount you'd quit for, though?

I don't

think I would quit working for any amount

because it would not

allow me to live with purpose anymore. I fear I would be the type of person that would say been there, done that.
And I would kind of like I am kind of like a depressive person. So if I don't have like something I have to do every day, then I just wouldn't do it.
And I would like rot away in my bed. Wow.
I'm not a very good rich person because I don't like go out and do rich things. I just save it all and invest it all.
You don't blow it on anything? I don't blow it. So

if you gave me like a hundred million dollars, like I, I still like would not be on a yacht in

Monatel. I would like invest it and live a boring lifestyle.
So I think I need to wake up and work

on something every day. So I don't think anything would get me to quit, to be honest with you,

but I would still take the hundred mil. Yeah.
It's hard to turn down a hundred mil. I wouldn't turn it down.
So you're not materialistic at all, huh? No. Yeah.
It's, I just really grew up in the woods. Wow.
Uh, so, and I think like I did date a rich guy once. Yeah.
How was that? It didn't fulfill me. Huh lacked the banter, you know,

like going and buying me a new purse

isn't as fun as staying up all night laughing,

you know, so lacking the banter

was just a deal breaker for me.

I don't care what you can buy me

and I can buy it myself now anyway.

And I just don't,

I think I worry about the future a lot too.

I don't really like spending all my money.

That's the anxiety in you. Yeah, like a doomsday, I'm going going to lose all my money or I don't know.
Have you bought a bunker yet? No, but I should. Yeah.
All the rich people are stocking up on those. Yeah.
What's going on? It's getting scary. It's weird that they all did it at the same time for care.
Yeah. But physical gifts is not your love language.
Sounds like. Have you taken that test? It's not my love language, but buying gifts for myself as a woman, it makes me feel like I'm in my masculine energy and I don't like it.
Yeah. Like I've bought myself nice handbags before and I'm just like, this isn't very fun.
And I'll just sit in my closet. But if a man were to gift me something, that's nice for a minute, but it's not as memorable as an experience take me on a trip which costs

money you know yeah so i mean to have like a good experience in life you do need a bit of money

yeah you know i pick trips over most physical items oh yeah trips are so memorable yeah i love

traveling where do you like to go greece has been my favorites thailand is cool uh i hear thailand

is just like tulum so why would i travel that far? Oh, is it? Yeah. Tulum's expensive.
Every time I go to Tulum, I always meet like a couple there or a group of people there that have been to Thailand or Bali and they're like, oh, it's the same. And I'm like, thank you for telling me that.
You just saved me 24 hour travel day. I do like Mexico.
Took me two hours to get here. Thank you.
Yeah. That's a good part about Mexico.
Yeah. The food is bomb.
Oh my God. It's good.
Yeah. The food is good.
Dude. It's so good.
What would you quit for any amount of money? Podcasting? Yeah. It'd be tough because I'm really fulfilled right now.
Like you said. Right.
I really like doing podcasts. So I don't know.
Because what would I do with 10 mil? I already got a couple mil. I mean, 10 mil is not going to really change my life, to be honest.
Yeah, but what if there was an amount that would change your life? Yeah, if we're talking nine figures, like 100 plus. Right.
It's hard to turn that down, I mean. I mean, you wouldn't turn it down, but would you quit your job? Like I could never podcast again.
Right. Oh, that's tough.
I don't know. Because you would have no purpose in life.
I know, I lean towards nothing. It is so important to feel fulfilled and having a hundred mil in your bank account is not going to do that.
Yeah. You have to be working on something every day.
I genuinely love doing this. Same, yeah.
Any other business I had before this was just for money and it wasn't fulfilling, but this is different. Yeah, I love taking nudes.
If I'm depressed, I pull my titties out and my day is made you know what i mean can't get me to stop what's the weirdest uh message or fan requests you've gotten uh i get a lot uh i do draw the line on some things though the weirdest thing anybody has ever requested from me is a used bloody tampon and at that point i was like you know what that's my dna i thought that's a little too close for comfort what are you gonna do with my dna my blood yeah so i turned that one down what about used underwear oh that's easy that's really common really oh yeah yeah that is actually really annoying to shoot or it's used underwear is really annoying because what people don't realize is you have to wear them for like 24 hours. Yeah.
And it's just like you have to like focus on like wearing this pair of underwear until it's to a point to where the user really wants it. And it's just like I don't want to have to like think about that.
I want to live my life. You know, I usually don't wear underwear or like I'm changing throughout the day.
I'll go to the gym in the morning. Then I'll go tan in the middle of the day.
Then I'll put your arm is at night. Like you're not wearing the same pair of underwear for 48 hours.
Right. You know, so I hate selling those.
How much do people pay for those? Hundreds, three, four hundred dollars. A thousand dollars.
It depends. Crazy.
But then you have to go to the post office. And it's like, that's a chore for me.
You ain't getting me out of the house for that amount of money. You know what I mean? Yeah.
Have you been offered to go to Dubai yet? Oh, yeah, of course. I was offered a million dollars to fuck some guy one time.
No way. Yeah.
So this guy was in private equity and I met him in real life and he fell in love, obviously. And he wanted to have sex with me and I just am not like that, you know, which is interesting because a lot of people probably think OnlyFans girls are, but you don't realize that I'm at home by myself working.
I'm not touching other people for the most part. So in real life, I'm really normal.
So he offered me like a few thousand dollars and I was like, absolutely not. And I think once he realized that I was kind of expensive, he upped the number and he upped it to $70,000.
And he said, I'm gonna have my lawyer write it up. And he wrote it up and he sent it to me.
And I thought, no, I'm still not having sex with you. I don't know you.
And I think once he realized that like I was really expensive, he got up to a million dollars. I probably have this document in my email still.
And then I said no, because I thought who in their right mind would pay a million dollars to have sex with someone? There's no way he's not going to dismember my body. Yeah.
Like weird, right? It's a lot, yeah. If somebody offered you a million dollars to like have sex with you, wouldn't you think they would murder you afterwards? Yeah, I'd be weirded out.
I was just too weirded out. That's too much.
Because he could probably have sex with so many other people. And then I thought, there's no way I'm going to get that money clean.
Afterwards, I felt like I would owe him something still. And he would stick around and then turn into a stalker.
And so I said no. Damn.
That was in Dubai? Oh, no. This was in real life in Atlanta.
Oh, wow. Atlanta.
Wow. Yeah.
That's surprising. No, but the Dubai stuff is nuts because I've heard people like girls are getting shit on.
Yeah. Yeah.
No, you're not shitting on me. Yeah.
I wonder how else they're getting for that. Not enough.
I've heard there's like some secretive escort ops for these high end. There is.
They like message you on WhatsApp. And I think these girls are getting like 10 G's to get shit on.
That's not worth it. No, but some girls just because you're an OnlyFans doesn't mean you're successful.
Like almost nobody on OnlyFans is successful unless you have a massive following. So some of these girls need $10,000 and that's an easy way to make it.
Yeah. How many minutes does it take to get shit on? I don't know.
One night of your life, if you're poor, what would you do for $10,000? I wouldn't get shit on for $10,000. I wouldn't either, but I can see the appeal.
That's quick that's quick money yeah i guess depends on how much shit it is but yeah yeah is it solid is it diarrhea oh my god okay look if it's solid you know i can see that diarrhea absolutely not what about piss you draw the line of piss that's less disgusting yeah i wouldn't do it but i see golden shower i feel like piss is like a big a big one on only fans too it's a turn on for it's a yeah which i guess because it reminds guys of squirting or something i don't know what it is you know yeah lily said uh she got some in her mouth and then the guy didn't drink water for two days she said it tasted bad i've never tasted piss before thank god but one of like the most common fetishes is feet for men. Yeah, there's a site for that.
And they say because when a baby fetus is developing in the womb, they're curled up like this and their feet are closest to their genitals. So there's like a wire that crosses in your brain that connects feet with genitals because of the way you're developing in the womb so that's why foot fetishes are so common good old foot job i love a foot fetish yeah yeah like you like guys feet uh no i like guys who like feet i like having my feet worshipped what's your ranking on that site the foot ranking site oh i'm not on that site that's.
Oh, really? You don't make money on that site. Oh, the foot finder or whatever? Uh-uh.
No, they're rev shares too. You don't make nothing.
Wow. I didn't know that because I used to see them everywhere, but I haven't seen them in a little bit.
No, but in real life, I like for a man to like my feet. Like you're getting a foot massage for an hour a night.
Like what? Why would you say no to that? People do that? Yeah. Oh yeah.
An hour? Uh-huh. can barely massage my girl's back for like 10 minutes.
I remember I was in college once and I was taking a nap at my friend's house and her neighbor had a foot fetish and he came over while I was in bed taking a nap and I woke up to him rubbing my feet. And you like, when I tell you, I pretended to still be asleep so he would keep going because I love getting my feet rubbed.
Wow. didn't think it was weird yes but it was nice wow that was like my intro to feet fetishes and did he get laid after that no he was weird plus you're picky it sounds like very yeah it sounds like you're this guy that um that had a foot fetish that was rubbing my feet in college he ended up on an episode of catfish on m.
No. That's how weird he is.
He got catfished? Uh-huh. Wow.
No, he was the catfish. No way.
He was catfishing. That's wild.
Yeah. Yeah, that show's OG.
Yeah. Imagine ending up on there.
That's embarrassing. That's why we have bad attention spans.
They don't put shows out like that anymore. Yeah, someone should reinvent something like that for lf or something you know what like my guilty pleasure is is watching like my 600 pound life or watching like what i eat in a days by those like thousand pounders she knows mukbangs i watched the shit out of like oh i love that shit that keeps my attention so you got a food fetish i guess you like food in bed too no no that's my i don like getting messy i like watching other people eat okay do you eat a lot i've talked about this before yeah yeah like i like if a guy can eat because it makes him seem more manly in my opinion like if a guy's ordering a salad i just feel like you're a little bitch not to turn off you know like order a steak and eat it like a man with your bare hands.
And I'm like, I like that. I don't know.
Yeah. Yeah.
I guess it's. Okay.
Can you see that? Yeah. Cause I've said this before and everyone agreed with me.
No, I agree. If you're ordering a salad as a man, that's a turnoff.
Sure. Like why are you eating a salad? Yeah.
No. Eat a whole steak raw.
Yeah. I like Amanda, like tear his food up.
Cause it just kind of makes me feel like he'd tear me up.

Yeah.

You know?

It must be like the barbarian brain in you.

Yes, I think I have a barbarian brain.

Yeah.

Like I'm supposed to just be foraging at home and tinkering around while my man is out there just like gathering.

You said you were a gardener.

Hunting.

Yeah, I love homesteading.

I just like bake pies all day. Wow, what's your best pie? Whatever you want.
Pecan. Oh, yeah.
Pecan pie is my favorite. That's a southern one.
Yeah, pecan pie slaps. Yeah.
Apple pie is solid. Yeah.
What other? Oh, pumpkin pie. No, that's...
You don't like pumpkin pie? Bush? That's like... No, that's garbage.
Nobody likes pumpkin pie.

I do.

You've never had a good pumpkin pie?

No, not for me.

What's your go-to then?

I'd say blueberry probably.

Okay.

Yeah, I love eating.

But I'm more of like a meat eater.

I try to do carnivore.

Yeah.

Makes me feel the best.

Same.

Yeah.

It's hard to beat carnivore.

Yeah, we have to like cancel vegans out.

You know what I mean?

Not a fan of vegans.

No, I went vegan for two years.

I've never been more fucked up in my life.

I don't know. Yeah.
Makes me feel the best. Same.
Yeah. It's hard to beat the cardboard.
Yeah. We have to like cancel vegans out.

You know what I mean? I'm not a fan of vegans.

Nah.

I went vegan for two years.

I've never been more fucked up in my life.

I, uh, it actually messed my, uh, my hormones up so bad that I lost my period for an entire

year.

Holy shit.

Yeah.

Could you ever date a vegan?

No.

They're in their feminine energy.

I'm not dating a pussy like that.

Yeah.

You said you didn't want kids earlier, right? Mm-mm. Okay.
You think that'll ever change? No. I don't think I can have kids.
Like, I have bad hormonal issues. Yeah.
Thank God, because I feel like it's my own birth control. Like, my body's like, no, bitch, you're not having kids.
So my body's just not letting me do it anyways. But children.
I would be a bad mom. I don't have like a nurturing motherly instincts.
Like I'm a fun person. I'm like a fun aunt.
And like I have a good time with kids, but I obviously need like my own freedom. And so I wouldn't be a good mom.
You're seeing more and more women not wanting kids in America. Yeah, I think it's because like women have found their independence and we all work now.
So we can make decisions for ourselves. We're not like a slave to like a husband staying home all day like the 50s.
Yeah. So we just don't want them.
What do you think of the feminist movement? I think it's kind of, I don't have tons of opinions on it. I just do kind of like the way the lifestyle was back in the 50s.
Yeah. Like when the man does take care of the woman.
It's your traditional. Yeah.
And that's like getting canceled saying that these days. Yeah.
Why can't you be normal anymore? It's really weird. It's nuts.
I mean, Tate really got slammed. Yeah.
And like low key, I don't think Andrew Tate is like that bad of a guy. Like everything he says, in my opinion, seems kind of agreeable.
We're not so the woman saying that. That's impressive.
A lot of women hate him. The feminists hate him.
And then the people that aren't feminists that don't hate him can't say anything because we'll get canceled for saying that. Right.
For defending him. Yeah.
And it's like, it's okay as a woman to be attracted to someone in their masculine energy like that's biological yeah yeah he was one of the nicest guys i've ever met it's it's crazy how they portray him online is it like a tactic of his yeah no he definitely eggs it on for sure i was about to say i think the fact that he eggs it on doesn't do him any favors but i think in, like I would be fine to like sit in the same room with him and have a conversation and we wouldn't get into a fight. I'd probably agree with most of the things that he says.
He was actually defending Lily Phillips on the podcast. Oh, really? He said throughout all of history, there's been prostitutes and at least she owns it.
She doesn't lie about it. But also like the men are the one hiring the prostitutes.
men are the one subscribing to only fans the men are the consumers if you guys didn't consume we wouldn't exist right so look in the mirror you got to put some of the blame on the men too yeah all the blame if you guys didn't exist we wouldn't be doing what we're doing a lot of simpsies days i looked up what percentage of men under 25 are virgins. What is it? 33%.
How do we know if that's accurate or not? Yeah, I don't know because it's self-admitted so people could be lying. But yeah, I looked at multiple sites and it was anywhere from like 20 to 35.
So yeah, I don't know. Back when I grew up.
No one was right. Yeah, because we were like not on the Internet all day.
We were like banging behind the football field you know well i think women i hear this a lot they go after like the top 20 guys now because of social media so the guys that aren't good looking or whatever they're just not getting action uh no that's not true you don't think so no it personality. So many ugly men get pussy as long as they're confident.

I think men lack confidence these days because they don't know how to talk to women anymore

because they don't have social interaction because they're sitting in front of a screen

for too long.

It's all confidence.

Any man can get with a woman if he's confident enough.

Oh, yeah.

Has nothing.

I only hook up with ugly men.

Really?

I think attractive men are kind of douches and I don't like that. And I don't like a man always getting what he wants.
You know? And a man, if they're too attractive and like too groomed, I like my man to be a little more like rough around the edges. So I kind of go for the uglier guy, especially if they're, if they are confident.

You hear that about women too,

to be fair.

Really?

Yeah.

The super attractive women

get everything they want.

Yeah.

So they're just like

super hard to please.

Oh, women are different.

Women are beautiful.

Yeah.

Yeah.

But I think

even like the short guys,

short kings,

they have to make up

for their height

with their personality.

And like nine times out of 10, like a short guy is the most confident guy you'll meet in the room. And they're getting all the pussy.
No. Oh yeah.
I've hooked up with so many short kings. Well, I love a short king.
Damn. That's the first girl I've heard say that.
Really? Yeah. Maybe I'm just an anomaly.
Yeah, I think you are. Short king.
Because like I thought women were attracted to someone taller than them. They however personality comes into play imagine there's like a six foot four guy and he's bashful can't make eye contact can't hold conversation he's not getting any pussy yeah yeah yeah that's interesting so you could date a guy shorter than you i have really yeah he was like a pitbull and like a little chihuahua body wow yeah.
Yeah, I liked it a lot. That's nuts.
What about a guy that weighed less than you? He weighed less than me. He did? Yeah, he was short.
Wow. I feel like I wore bigger size clothes than him.
Damn. But he had like an attitude on him and it was nice.
Well, they call that Napoleon complex. He had it.
Yeah, which is... Am I toxic? Yeah, you are.
Okay. Yeah.
But at least you know it. Yeah.
You said earlier, you know, you're hard to deal with. Yeah.
Yeah. But at least you know that.
But I'm a good time now. Well, some people aren't even aware of that, though.
And that's probably. Yeah.
Because then they're just like, what? I don't know. I can really adapt to whoever I'm talking to, too.
Like, if somebody can't really take what I'm saying, like, I'll chill out on them a little bit little bit. And I'm also not vocally opinionated.
So in real life, like I'm not like starting problems with people. I just, if we don't vibe, that's it.
So I'm on good terms with everybody. Like I have a good presence, but I definitely am not the norm when it comes to like views on things.
That makes sense. How do you deal with the hate online? Do you just block them? I don't get hate online.
No way. Look at my shit.
I don't get any hate. That's the first time I've heard that from an LF girl.
I don't know how. My comments are not, I don't need to delete any comments.
Wow. I think because like online I'm so wholesome because I kind of am in real life and like I always put out really positive content.
and I always been really vocal about like my anxiety my agoraphobia like relatable stuff that I think people know not to fuck with me because like I'm genuinely a nice person you know you're so open that they're like holy shit like I guess yeah yeah and I I don't know if you could tell for my social media but like I'm not really one to pick on like I'm not materialistic Iistic. I'm not posting like Hermes bags and like really annoying shit.
I'm just being myself. And it's kind of hard to hate on somebody that does that.
Do you post thirst drops? Oh yeah. Like the most people hate on me is like my titties are saggy and it's like, next be more creative.
Like if I wanted to fix that, I would, I obviously don't care. You don't want to get any cosmetic procedures? No.
Really? My anxiety. I can't go.
I can barely get Botox without fainting. Wow.
I can't get anything done. I'm terrified.
Does Botox hurt? Not really. I think it's just the fact that I'm seeing like a needle come towards my face.
It like raises my blood pressure and I've fainted before, especially from needles. Holy crap.
So like you expect me to go get a tit job? I can't do can't do that that sounds painful yeah i'm not a fan of most cosmetic procedures yeah and plus um have you heard of breast implant illness yeah it affects people with the mtfr mutatic what is it oh does it yeah i have that gene break i have it too yeah should i re-say that because mth? MTHFR. So people with breast implant illness, they most likely have the MTFHR.
What is it? Isn't it MTHFR, motherfucker gene? Okay. That's what I thought.
Whatever. Correct me on that.
That would look great. Shout out to Gary Brekka.
She's a fucking idiot. He's who I tested with.
Same. So if I were to get my titties done, having that gene mutation, I'm at a really high risk of having breast implant illness.
I didn't know that. So it was like, why would I get it just to get them removed? Yeah.
Yeah. There's a lot of pressure to do those procedures as an OF girl.
I bet. I think if you lack confidence, like I'm just like too confident to even care.
Like I I'm aware my titties are saggy. I don't care.
Trust me. I'm aware I don't have juicy lips.
Like I don't care. Trust me.
I don't know. I'm not a fan of juicy lips.
I think they look amazing on some girls. I would argue otherwise, but.
Oh, on some girls, they don't, but on some girls they do. Yeah.
It would look great on me. I just do it.
I just like natural beauty personally. Like I don't even.
Like the 90s beauty, like 90s Cameron Diaz, 90s Jennifer Aniston. Please.
Everybody used to look different. I don't, I literally don't even like makeup.
Everybody looks the same these days because like procedures make you all look identical. Yeah.
So I miss when people used to look themselves for sure. 100%.
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