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Speaker 2 No, that's not true. You don't think so? No, it's personality.
So many ugly men get pussy as long as they're confident.

Speaker 2 I think men lack confidence these days because they don't know how to talk to women anymore because they don't have social interaction because they're sitting in front of a screen for too long.

Speaker 2 It's all confidence. Any man can get with a woman if he's confident enough.
Really? Oh, yeah.

Speaker 2 Okay, guys, in Austin with an OF content creator, Jenna Lee. Thanks for hopping on today.
Thank you so much for having me. I'm excited to be here.
Yeah, it's going to be an interesting one.

Speaker 2 You've been busy lately?

Speaker 2 I'm always busy. Yeah.
I'm an OG OF girl. How long you been in the hotel? Oh, since the inception, 2016.
Wow. Yeah.
That's the longest I've heard, actually. It's the longest that's possible.

Speaker 2 What sold you on it so quick? Because a lot of girls, I felt like joined late. Right, because they were about the money.
Yes. When COVID hit, they just wanted to make a quick buck.

Speaker 2 I pretty much graduated from college and got a nine to five and had never been more depressed in my entire life.

Speaker 2 I worked in an office full of men. Some of the men were even younger than me and they were getting promotions.

Speaker 2 And we, one of the VPs was making like hundreds of thousands of dollars a year and he was literally 20 years old. And I was like, it was so misogynistic in there.

Speaker 2 I was like, I'm never going to get a promotion here. So why don't I just go take their money elsewhere?

Speaker 2 You know what I mean? Yeah. So that's when I thought I could do this.
And it just like popped off immediately when I joined. Damn.
Because I didn't know if they had the user base back then.

Speaker 2 So I did because before OnlyFans, that was actually a different platform that I was on called Findro, a super old platform. And I had built a fan base on there in 2014.

Speaker 2 So I, for two years, I was accumulating fans. So when OF dropped, I just shifted them all over.
Got it. And back then, was the stigma as bad as it is now? Worse.
It was worse. Oh, it was worse.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 But back then, I treated it. Do you remember Tumblr? Yeah, I never used it, but I know.
It used to be just me like with my coffee very like, wasn't even showing any nudes.

Speaker 2 So people thought I was really shy and I was. I kind of grew up with them.
So I wasn't even doing nudes for like two years straight.

Speaker 2 So when I even like dropped a nip slip, the first nip slip I dropped, boom, I made like 20K that day. What? So I was like, what if I dropped both nips out? Would that be 40K?

Speaker 2 And then it just escalated from there. I feel like that's how it progresses.
Some girls like start out and go full throttle immediately. And that's just the wrong play.

Speaker 2 You're going to be full of regret and you're not going to leave anything to the imagination. So my entire business model was leave as much to the imagination as possible.

Speaker 2 And I was really able to like harness that and monetize it that way. What stage are you at now? Are you doing full on stuff? I'm not at full throttle yet.

Speaker 2 I got that in my back pocket still for a rainy day. Okay.
Uh-huh. Wow.
And it's been nine years. So you're really holding out.
So, yeah, I don't know, but I never planned on quitting.

Speaker 2 I feel like people are always like, what's your 10-year plan? Or what are you going to do when you're old? And I'm like, have you heard of a cougar or a MILF? Like, I'm going to be a MILF doing this.

Speaker 2 Why would I ever stop producing something that's creating a passive income? Yeah. Right.

Speaker 2 So I got that in my back pocket for a rainy day. How difficult has this made your dating life?

Speaker 2 I don't really care today. I like having fun more.

Speaker 2 I think I am too difficult today and I don't really like taking it seriously. And I like using other guys for content.
So

Speaker 2 I love that you care about it.

Speaker 2 It's just like more fun for me. If I like, I have a lot of like friendships and fuck buddies.
Yeah. And so I don't really want to settle down.
I came from a home, like a home of like divorce. Yes.

Speaker 2 Right. Aunts, uncles, like everyone's divorced.
So I just never really valued. marriage.
Now I can value like a long-term life partner, but I don't think I would ever get married for that reason.

Speaker 2 So I just don't take relationships seriously. Wow.
So you believe in friends with with benefits? I believe in friends with benefits. And I also don't want kids.
I've never wanted kids.

Speaker 2 I think it would actually be really toxic to have children in this space to raise them around

Speaker 2 nudity at such a young age. Like as an adult, it's normal for me, but you do have to kind of like age yourself into it.

Speaker 2 So the fact that I don't want kids also makes it really easy not to like take dating too seriously. Yeah.
I wonder how Adam 22's and Lennox kids are going to turn out.

Speaker 2 Well, I hope that they like shield their child from what they do. I'm sure that they do, but there will come a time when their child will grow up and see what they're doing.
It's unavoidable. Right.

Speaker 2 And that goes for anybody, right?

Speaker 2 There's so many women and men in this industry that do have children that are going to kind of have to have that tough interaction when they're older and they do see the content.

Speaker 2 So I just saw this crazy stat the other day. 1.2 million women use OnlyFans.

Speaker 2 Did you know that? You think that's low? I thought that was hot. Oh, as in consumers?

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Speaker 2 Creators. Creators, yeah.

Speaker 2 I felt like that was high. I felt like that's low.
It like, because didn't OnlyFans creators make more money than the NBA?

Speaker 2 Uh, if you average it out, but that's because the top ones are making so much. Yeah.
Like Bad Baby or whatever, allegedly, and you and who knows, Cardi B.

Speaker 2 I don't know who's the Yeah, Bad Baby, how much does she make? I saw crazy numbers, like 50-something million.

Speaker 2 And she said, she unfortunately lately said that she doesn't even have like the will to live anymore because she made so much money, she doesn't do anything. Wow.
She's bought everything.

Speaker 2 She's done everything. She's gone everywhere.
And she just doesn't really care to do much anymore. That sucks.
I know.

Speaker 2 So it's kind of like you want to make a lot of money, but you don't want to make too much to where you like lose the lust for life. Yeah.
Well, I think it's like a real

Speaker 2 thought,

Speaker 2 you know, I still like to have drive in me to make more and progress. But imagine if you made two, three, 400 million.
Like, what do you do then?

Speaker 2 I think it depends the speed on how you make it and who you are beforehand. Right.
Because I've had on Amaranth, who has made over 70 million. Yes.
And she seems like she's pretty level-headed.

Speaker 2 Well, she did just recently post her like crypto portfolio. Yeah.
That's not very level-headed. Well, yeah, you saw she got robbed or

Speaker 2 somebody like held her at gunpoint or some shit like that. Yeah.
So she went on my show the week before and Fresh and Fit. I don't know which show it was, but someone watched it.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 She revealed the crypto portfolio. Why would I don't think that's a coincidence? Yeah.
So I thought. But I think people don't really talk about safety in this industry as much as they should.

Speaker 2 Like stalkers are so real. I live my entire life based around potentially having a stalker because I have had one before.
Damn.

Speaker 2 So I had a stalker once. It was the most traumatizing thing that I've ever been through.
I had to move three different times. He found me.
He found me every time. How'd he find you?

Speaker 2 I was living alone as a female in a city. I don't know.
I think he would psychologically trick people that I knew into thinking that he was a friend of mine to get my information. Damn.

Speaker 2 And I changed my phone number multiple times. He came to my house.
He would always slash my tires so I couldn't leave.

Speaker 2 And then what he did was he served me papers just to get me to court so he could see me again.

Speaker 2 What?

Speaker 2 Yes. So here I am in court because you have to go claiming that I was stalking him.
And obviously they have, they're like, sir, she does not communicate with you. Like this is not

Speaker 2 going to go through. But afterwards, he ended up killing himself because I wouldn't wouldn't be with him.
Holy crap. So just knowing that like that could have been me.

Speaker 2 Now I live my life like so carefully. And I feel like other creators, I mean,

Speaker 2 as an adult content creator or like a hot girl on the internet, you're essentially selling the girlfriend experience. Like a lot of these men really think they're in full-blown relationships with you.

Speaker 2 And I think you need to take that more seriously regarding the fact that they think that they can show up at your front door. Yeah, they call it parasocial relationship, right? Yeah.

Speaker 2 Because they see so much of you, they think think they know you online yes and then they show up and act like your friend or your boyfriend or whatever that's wild did you feel kind of guilty or any no it was like such as it was so relieving knowing that she that he had died damn i had never been more relieved it was like the first time i could breathe in like two years holy this went on for years damn he got registered at my college got the same schedule as me and was in every one of my classes to be next to me what yes you might have been a hacker or something to know what classes you were in.

Speaker 2 Right. It was weird because it wasn't the first day of class.
It was like a weekend. You know, you can kind of like change your schedules.

Speaker 2 It was terrifying. So when he killed himself, I was really, really.
So you didn't get a restraining order or anything? I couldn't. Why?

Speaker 2 It's so hard for women to get restraining orders on men. Really? I thought it was easy.

Speaker 2 Because basically, like I had my brother say, like, you need to leave her alone or I'm going to kick your ass or whatever to the judge. That basically shows that I don't fear for my life.

Speaker 2 If I have someone. All right.

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Speaker 2 That is communicating with him. Huh, that's weird.
Yeah, very. I don't know if I agree with that, Call.

Speaker 2 Oh, restraining orders need to be much easier to obtain. It's criminal how hard they are for women to get.
I guess it's state by state. I always assumed they were easy.

Speaker 2 If you just like went to the police, you could get one. Nope.
So do you need evidence? I had literally photos of my tires slashed everything. And it was the fact that like,

Speaker 2 I remember one time I woke up to 80 missed phone calls. Oh my gosh.
And this was years ago. I forget what I said.
I just responded like, please leave me alone or something.

Speaker 2 And then the fact that I communicated with him was the reason I couldn't get a restraining order.

Speaker 2 That was nuts. Yeah.
So you're not doing fan meetups, are you? Hell no. Who's doing fan meetups? Lily Phillips is, and she's banging them too.
She's new. She's new.

Speaker 2 She's too new for some shit to have gone down yet. Yeah.
Yeah, you're right. She's only a year into it.
Yep. I don't know how that's going to end.

Speaker 2 But yeah, she did a fan meetup at AVN, banged 50 guys at AVN? Doing anal, yeah, an anal gang bang. I don't know how her pussy keeps up with it, man.

Speaker 2 Well, that was her ass, but yeah, she does, she does the hundred a a day with the pussy and yeah i don't know that's a lot yeah i mean like we got a pH balance you know like is she all right

Speaker 2 yeah well if they all get tested allegedly and they all wear protection but yeah I don't know seems crazy she's going for a thousand in uh the UK I think this week yeah but like have we done the math on the timing of that like how many events each guy got I think she so for the hunter she gave five minutes each yeah and then I think she said for a thousand she has to do two minutes each

Speaker 2 So you got to like, when do you like drink water and pee and like eat? Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, somebody's got to do the math on that, Lily.
Love you. Are you sure? Did you collab with her?

Speaker 2 I saw you on IG with her the other day. It was interesting.
She said Lily Phillips on her social media says she doesn't like posting anything raunchy because she likes to save it for her OF.

Speaker 2 She likes to leave something for the imagination, which is fine because Instagram is so safe. So her and I did like super safe Instagram stuff.
Okay.

Speaker 2 But I was like, girl, please move to the United States so we can like collab for real. I loved her.
Well, the order stopped her. Did she tell you that? Yeah.
She's a little too famous.

Speaker 2 And it's kind of scary in this industry. Like you want to get all the views in the world because the more views you make, the more income you obviously get.

Speaker 2 But you don't want to get too famous because then scary shit starts happening. So there's like a fine line you don't want to cross.
And I actively work on not crossing also. Smart.

Speaker 2 There are so many collabs and events and stuff that I turn down down because I don't want to be too much in the public eye. And I like doing a lot of solo stuff specifically for my safety.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 You do good at that. Which prevents me from reaching my full potential

Speaker 2 financially, but I can sleep at night knowing that like nobody's going to show up. No, that makes sense though, because you do really well at that.

Speaker 2 Cause I just found out about you like a few weeks ago, but you've been doing this for nine years. Yeah.
So that's a problem. I'm really low-key.
I like living like a super normal life.

Speaker 2 I feel like people think OF girls are just crazy and they're like always in Miami, like on a guy's ya. And it's like, I'm in my backyard gardening, actually.

Speaker 2 Leave me alone, world.

Speaker 2 So you like doing your thing solo? I do my thing solo. Yeah, I struggle with really bad anxiety, which developed into agoraphobia.
Do you know how that is? Yeah, I had it for two months. That's it.

Speaker 2 How long was yours?

Speaker 2 I still have it. You still have it? Yeah.
Oh, wow. Do you know what I'm on to be here? Xanax?

Speaker 2 No, I take a lot of something called lfeonine i just pounded i take like a thousand milligrams

Speaker 2 it is i take a thousand milligrams just to get out of the house yeah symbiotica just sent me some of that oh it's it will depends on what brand you take

Speaker 2 it's kind of like matcha like there's ceremonial grade and then there's the shitty kind so you got to get like the cleanest um i didn't know that helped with anxiety because people tell oh it like just levels you to feel normal and i highly recommend it because most things for anxiety make you feel tired or sleepy or like zone out i feel like jenna when i'm on it yeah because you probably have PTSD from the stalkers.

Speaker 2 If that makes sense. Well, I actually have PTSD.
Well, yeah, but I have PTSD from a car accident,

Speaker 2 which happened in 2016. And I haven't driven a car since.
So I don't have a driver's license. I haven't had a driver's license in like years.

Speaker 2 So if you don't have a driver's license, it prevents you from leaving the house.

Speaker 2 And then when you do leave the house, it's because someone else is driving you, which means you never leave the house alone.

Speaker 2 So it's just like a slippery slope and it can get kind of like dark and scary, which has allowed me to fucking crush it on OnlyFans because all I do is sit at home all day and create content.

Speaker 2 You know what I mean? DM 100 people. Yeah,

Speaker 2 I'm on there. But yeah, anxiety really fucked me up.
And it still does. But how did you get over your agoraphobia? Mine was a lawsuit induced.
So I was dealing with a lawsuit. Okay.

Speaker 2 It was like situational? Situational, yes. But as soon as the lawsuit settled, it kind of like slowly went away.
Okay. And you didn't have to take anything for it?

Speaker 2 I think I was on like Xanax at the time, but I got off it because fuck Xanax, dude. Yeah, no, I don't like anything that doesn't make me feel like myself.
No, that messed me up.

Speaker 2 I literally blacked out for a month. Yeah.
I don't remember anything. Wow.
Xanax really messes you up. Yeah.
How's your mental health now with doing all this? It's better.

Speaker 2 I still have a little anxiety, but it's situational. It's not chronic.
Before you know your triggers. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Before it was daily, but now it's like if something happens to me, it might creep up a little bit. Yeah.
Yeah. Mine used to be chronic to where like I would just wake up

Speaker 2 trembling. Yeah, same.
Trembling. Yeah, it was bad.
Yeah. Real bad.
I thought my whole world was in. I feel like our our generation is just like super fucked with mental health.

Speaker 2 I think we're on the internet. Oh, yeah.
They're doing studies. They don't socialize.
They identified.

Speaker 2 You know, when I feel my best is when I just go outside and I, I'm really good at just ditching my phone. Cause like my screen time is like seven hours a day.

Speaker 2 Then like one day I'll just be like one day a week. I'm like, screw it.
And I, I don't even care to be on it. It feels so much better.
That's impressive.

Speaker 2 I think because I'm just like so dialed with all my shit. I know I have everything I need to do done that I could just literally throw it away and like everything's fine.
That's solid. Yeah.

Speaker 2 I'm at about eight, nine hours a day, which is pretty crazy. That's like almost the whole day you're up.
Yeah, mine's seven. I've never heard of anybody put up higher than mine.

Speaker 2 Well, I'm working though. So that's my excuse.
No, me too. Yeah, I'm not.
Well, scrolling is work. I have to like

Speaker 2 with the trends. No, scrolling is work for us because I'm looking for guests.
I'm looking for trending topics. Yeah, if you, if you don't scroll on your phone all day, don't you start itching? Yeah.

Speaker 2 No, I literally I'm like feening to scroll. Like refreshing Twitter.
I'm refreshing TikTok. Yeah.
Twitter's been down today and I'm like, oh, it's down today?

Speaker 2 I'm like, damn, Twitter's my favorite right now.

Speaker 2 My Twitter is all just like people fucking, and I don't know how to get off. Oh, I've never read that on my Twitter.
How do I get that off my album? You have to start liking other shit. I know.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 Yeah, but I have to post my sexy shit. So it never, it never gets on what I actually want it to be.
And yeah, because they let you post whatever on Twitter. Yeah.

Speaker 2 I don't get that side of Twitter at all. Well, you're not posting your butt cheeks, so I don't imagine you would be.

Speaker 2 I mean, what would happen if you did? I'd make a lot of money, but it wouldn't be worth it. I'm about to get married.
She'd be pissed. Oh, yeah.
Is she cool with you?

Speaker 2 What's that dynamic like?

Speaker 2 She's super private. Yeah.
Yeah. So like people don't even know, but yeah, I've been dating her for eight years.
Really?

Speaker 2 And you're going to get married? Yeah, this year.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I never thought I was against it, you know. You were against marriage? Well, as a guy, like when you have a lot of money and like fame, there's a lot of downsides to getting married.

Speaker 2 Well, as a girl with a lot of money, there's also a lot of downsides to getting married.

Speaker 2 Yeah, it's not even a sex thing it's just like if you have a lot of assets isn't it funny how it turns into a guy thing though well people assume yeah it's really interesting like being a woman that makes millions of dollars yeah uh like when you go to date it's just kind of like every woman that i know that makes millions of dollars they if you're watching your favorite ig girl her man is the one filming her.

Speaker 2 They all are in relationships and all of these men do nothing but support their women and shoot their content and like mooch off of their women, but they work for them. Yeah.
Which it is work.

Speaker 2 It is work. But it's like the women is the, the woman is always the breadwinner.
And then their man is kind of like following them around. I don't think I could do that.

Speaker 2 It doesn't get my pussy wet. I'll see that.

Speaker 2 But it's like a successful man in my tax bracket doesn't want anything to do with me because of what I do for work. So that's another reason I'm single.
It's like a catch-22. It is a catch-22.

Speaker 2 I heard women that make a ton of money struggle dating, not even just in your industry.

Speaker 2 I'm sure, because we are in in our masculine energy, and you know, biologically, we want to be in our feminine energy.

Speaker 2 It's interesting, like, I make millions of dollars, but like, sometimes I don't want to, I want to be taken care of just because I'm a woman, right? I don't want to have to like take care of a man.

Speaker 2 Yeah, you want to be in your feminine energy. Yeah.
What do you think of Andrew Tate and Elon Musk style of like, I guess, just having a bunch of kids with multiple women?

Speaker 2 Because Andrew has over 10, Elon's got 14. Uh,

Speaker 2 I, I, the only reason I think that's weird is because, like, I grew up with like a weird father

Speaker 2 figure dynamic and you know, it's not healthy to have like an absent father.

Speaker 2 So the only reason I think it's weird is because there's no way they can be present for all of their children. And I get that Elon like wants to repopulate the earth with his genetics.

Speaker 2 And like that's fine because I think he's a good person and I stand for what he's doing, Elon.

Speaker 2 But his child is going to have daddy issues, all of them. One's already trans.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 So Tate's philosophy, because I just had him on, he basically said an hour with him is worth more than like 40 hours with average man.

Speaker 2 No. Because his knowledge, I guess, you know.
Yeah, no, but like it still takes time to build relationships.

Speaker 2 Like that kid's not going to trust him for being with him for like two seconds during the day. Yeah.
Like I spent every other weekend with my father and we weren't close.

Speaker 2 So according to Andrew Tate, he should have been like my God.

Speaker 2 Yeah, my parents got divorced when I was 10 and I only saw my father on like every other weekend. And I definitely laughed like that father figure.

Speaker 2 Say, but my father was like a full-blown alcoholic and died from alcoholism.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 2 So like when I was with him, he like still wasn't even present. Yeah.
So that doesn't even count. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Yeah. My, my girlfriend always gives me shit for that because like we'll be next to each other on the couch, but I'll be working on my phone.
So she doesn't count. It doesn't count.

Speaker 2 You know, have you ever gone to dinner and put your phone down and like looked her in the eyes? It's like, oh, shit. You know what I used to do when I was in a relationship?

Speaker 2 If I needed quality time, I would make my man play a card game with me because like you have to be in the moment.

Speaker 2 And it's like a good way to connect with somebody for a short period of time and it feels like quality times smart but you're not like bored yeah i don't know but just movies don't interest me anymore

Speaker 2 oh my god i can't watch a movie i'm on my phone the whole movie i can't watch a movie i don't know what it is tick tock brain they call it yeah it's just like so slow what do we how do we get rid of it i just posted i actually miss my pre-internet brain the other day i know i used to be able to watch harry potter straight beginning to end and be excited now it's like i watched this 10 years ago i don't get excited anymore do you not as much as I used to.

Speaker 2 I don't get excited at all. I wonder if that's a desensitation thing because of social media.
Well, I think like our dopamine and serotonin is like drained. Yeah.
It's like fried.

Speaker 2 I'm actually looking into a dopamine detox. Have you heard of those? Yeah.

Speaker 2 No, I need, I'm more of like a supplement person. I need to like.
take supplements for dopamine. Oh, yeah.
Which I heard saffron is a good supplement to do that, but I don't feel it's potent enough.

Speaker 2 It's just like a, like I need something sympathetic. You need some psychedelics.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 Have you done those? I haven't. Just because my anxiety is so bad, I know for a fact my brain will be like, you're getting eaten by an anaconda or like some shit.

Speaker 2 Like, I, I, I would go into it as it being a bad trip. So I just can't let myself out of it.
And my brain doesn't do good on pot or weed or anything. Same.

Speaker 2 Especially edibles. Oh, the worst.
I get messed up. I get so messed up.
I can't see anyone. I got to go in a corner and just sleep.
I fainted once

Speaker 2 from taking an edible. So you want me to do a psychedelics? Absolutely not.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 But have you ever like micro-dose mushrooms? Yes. They make you like a little, you know what? That makes me a little happy.
Yeah. I like micro-dosing because you're not tripping balls.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 You're kind of just like productive. Yeah.
I don't even notice it. Sometimes I forget I do it, honestly.

Speaker 2 No, I got a little, it made me a little too giggly once. Or like, how to go.

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Speaker 2 Terms apply. To a dinner with my mom.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 She was on it too. So it was wow.
It was fun. Interesting relationship.
Yeah, that's an interesting one. With your mother.
She's very Christian, very straight laced.

Speaker 2 So when I first started OnlyFans, I wasn't doing nudes, remember? So she was like, that's fine, honey.

Speaker 2 But now like she's retired. She's like,

Speaker 2 sorry, mom. She's like smoking pot, whatever.
Yeah. That's interesting.
Yeah. When you did the nude stuff, did that mess up the relationship for a little bit?

Speaker 2 You know, like I don't update my family on my content. It's not like I'm calling my mom up and I'm like, hey, you know what? I'm going to do an orgy today.
I'm just going to let you know.

Speaker 2 You know what I mean? Yeah. So I don't really update people on what I'm doing.
Oh, so she doesn't know. You have to subscribe.
Well, I guess she does know.

Speaker 2 But I think my family sees how successful I am. So they wouldn't dare say shit to me.
And if they ever did say shit to me, it doesn't matter.

Speaker 2 I don't really take what they say seriously just because of my childhood. So like they can't really tell me how to live my life or like give me their opinion.

Speaker 2 They wouldn't dare give me their opinions. I'm kind of stone cold to them.
Damn. Yeah.
Yeah. I don't really fuck around with people telling me what to do.

Speaker 2 Yeah, especially the trauma they put you through. I guess you put some blame on them, right? Yeah, you know, as a matter of fact, mom, you sit down.
Let me tell you what to do today.

Speaker 2 She probably when she comes to my house, I'm like, take your shoes off.

Speaker 2 Well, it's cyclical, right? So she probably went through her own trauma. She takes her shoes off, yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 Would you quit OF if someone gave you $10 million? No. Really? You know, I went to college and I took a finance course and they teach you like the greatest source of income is passive income.

Speaker 2 So I think I'm doing what I was taught.

Speaker 2 Society doesn't think OnlyFans are girls being productive in society, but this is what I was taught to do in school. Yeah.
You know, also with the amount of money I make

Speaker 2 and have to give back in taxes, like what we give back to the communities even, you know? Yeah.

Speaker 2 But also 10 mil, that's not going to last me.

Speaker 2 It's not going to last me until my after retirement.

Speaker 2 Yeah, depending on your lifestyle, right? Depending, yeah, so I would continue. Lord of Beast Games winner just got 10 mil.
I just saw a video of him. Did they get paid out, though?

Speaker 2 Yeah, he did, but the problem is he lives in Cali. So he's only getting five mil after taxes.
Oh, yeah. I won a game show once.
Oh, you did? I won $12,000. It was so adorable.

Speaker 2 It was like the cutest game show ever. And I only went home with $7,000 because of taxes.
Wow. So they took it out right now.
I mean, with taxes, you usually get write-offs, right?

Speaker 2 With specifically with like game show earnings, there's no chance to write anything off. So they take the full amount amount that they can from you.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 So I think he got wrecked because he's in Cali. So the state tax is 15%.

Speaker 2 Yeah. I mean, Austin is zero, right? For state tax.
Oh, zero. Yeah.
But they fuck you with property taxes. Oh, really? Dude, property tax is so crazy.
It just makes up for it. How much is it here?

Speaker 2 My house is, oh, I don't know the percentage of property tax. Yeah, Vegas is decent.

Speaker 2 It's the highest in the country. Oh, shit.
Yeah. Editor, put it on the screen.
Which is wild because Texas has hella land.

Speaker 2 Yeah. So that's an interesting reason.
I guess because there's no state tax, they just try to make it.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Wow.

Speaker 2 Is there an amount you'd quit for, though?

Speaker 2 I don't think I would quit working for any amount because it would not allow me to like live with purpose anymore. I fear I would be the type of person that would say, been there, done that.

Speaker 2 And I would kind of, like, I am kind of like a depressive person. So if I don't have like something I have to do every day, then I just wouldn't do it.
And I would like rot away in my bed. Wow.

Speaker 2 I'm not a very good rich person because I don't like go out and do rich things. I just save it all and invest it all.
You don't blow it on anything? I don't blow it.

Speaker 2 So if you gave me like a hundred million dollars, like I, I still like would not be on a yacht in Monaco. I would like invest it and live a boring life still.

Speaker 2 So I think I need to wake up and work on something every day. So I don't think anything would get me to quit, to be honest with you, but I would still take the 100 mil.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 It's hard to turn down 100 mil. I wouldn't turn it down.
So you're not materialistic at all, huh? No. Yeah.
It's, I just really grew up in the woods. Wow.

Speaker 2 So,

Speaker 2 and I think like I did date a rich guy once. Yeah, I was up.

Speaker 2 It didn't fulfill me.

Speaker 2 We, we lacked the banter, you know, like going and buying me a new purse isn't as fun as staying up all night laughing, you know? So lacking the banter

Speaker 2 was just a deal breaker for me. I don't care what you can buy me.
And I can buy it myself now anyway. And I just don't, I think I worry about the future a lot too.

Speaker 2 I don't really like spending all my money. That's the anxiety in you.
Yeah. Like a doomsday.
I'm going to like lose all my money or I don't know. Have you bought a bunker yet? No, but I should.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 All the rich people are stocking up on those. Yeah.
What's going on? It's getting scary. It's weird that they all did it at the same time for sure.
Yeah, but physical gifts is not your love language.

Speaker 2 Sounds like.

Speaker 2 Have you taken that test? It's not my love language, but buying gifts for myself as a woman, it makes me feel like I'm in my masculine energy and I don't like it. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Like I've bought myself nice handbags before and I'm just like, this isn't very fun. And it'll just sit in my closet.

Speaker 2 But if a man were to gift me something, that's nice for a minute, but it's not as memorable as an experience.

Speaker 2 Take me on a trip, which costs money, you know? Yeah.

Speaker 2 So, I mean, to have like a good experience in life, you do need a bit of money. Yeah.
You know, I pick trips over most physical items. Oh, yeah.
Trips are so memorable. Yeah.
I love traveling.

Speaker 2 Where do you like to go? Greece has been my favorites. Thailand is cool.

Speaker 2 I hear Thailand is just like Tulum. So why would I travel that far? Oh, is it? Yeah.
Tulum's expensive.

Speaker 2 Every time I go to Tulum, I always meet like a couple there or a group of people there that have been to Thailand or Bali. And they're like, oh, it's the same.

Speaker 2 And I'm like, thank you for telling me that. You just saved me 24-hour travel day.
I do like Mexico. Took me two hours to get here.
Thank you. Yeah.
That's a good part about Mexico.

Speaker 2 The food is awesome. Oh, my God.
It's good. Yeah, the food is good.
Dude, it's so good.

Speaker 2 Would you quit for any amount of money? Podcasting? Yeah.

Speaker 2 It'd be tough because I'm really fulfilled right now, like you said. Right.
I really like doing podcasts. So I don't know.
Cause what would I do with 10 mil? I already got a couple mil.

Speaker 2 I mean, 10 mil is not going to really change my life, to be honest. But what if it, what if there was an amount that would change your life? Yeah, if we're talking nine figures, like 100 plus.
Right.

Speaker 2 It's hard to turn that down. I mean, I mean, you wouldn't turn it down, but would you quit your job? Like, I can never podcast again.
Right. Oh, that's tough.
I don't know.

Speaker 2 Because you would have no purpose. No, at least

Speaker 2 it is so important to feel fulfilled. And having a hundred mil in your bank account is not going to do that.
Yeah. You have to be working on something every day.
I genuinely love doing this. Same.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Any other business I had before this was just for money and it wasn't fulfilling, but this is different.
Like, yeah, I love taking news.

Speaker 2 If I'm depressed, I pull my titties out and my day is made. You know what I mean? Can't get me to stop.
What's the weirdest

Speaker 2 message or fan requests you've gotten?

Speaker 2 I get a lot.

Speaker 2 I do draw the line on some things, though. The weirdest thing anybody has ever requested from me is a used bloody tampon.
And at that point, I was like, you know what? That's my DNA.

Speaker 2 I thought that's a little too close for comfort. What are you going to do with my DN, my blood? Yeah.
So I turned that one down. What about used underwear? Oh, that's easy.
That's really common.

Speaker 2 Really? Oh, yeah.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 That is actually really annoying to shoot or it's a used underwear is really annoying because what people don't realize is you have to wear them for like 24 hours yeah and it's just like you have to like focus on like

Speaker 2 wearing this pair of underwear until it's to a point to where the user really wants it and it's just like i don't want to have to like think about that i want to live my life you know yeah i usually don't wear underwear or like i'm changing throughout the day i'll go to the gym in the morning then i'll go tan in the middle of the day then i'll pajamas at night like you're not wearing the same pair of underwear for 48 hours right you know so I hate selling those.

Speaker 2 How much do people pay for those? Hundreds, three, four, hundred dollars, a thousand dollars. It depends.
Crazy. But then you, but then you have to go to the post office.

Speaker 2 And it's like, that's a chore for me.

Speaker 2 You ain't getting me out of the house for that amount of money. You know what I mean? Yeah.
Have you been offered to go to Dubai yet? Oh, yeah, of course.

Speaker 2 I was offered a million dollars to fuck some guy one time. No way.
Yeah. So this guy was in private equity and I met him in real life and he fell in love, obviously.

Speaker 2 And

Speaker 2 he wanted to have sex with me and I just am not like that, you know, which is interesting because a lot of people probably think OnlyFans girls are, but you don't realize that I'm at home by myself working.

Speaker 2 I'm not touching other people for the most part. So in real life, I'm really normal.

Speaker 2 So

Speaker 2 he

Speaker 2 offered me like a few thousand dollars. And I was like, absolutely not.
And I think once he realized that I was kind of expensive, he upped the number. Yeah.
And he upped it to $70,000.

Speaker 2 And he said, I'm going to have my lawyer write it up. And he wrote it up and he sent it to me.
And I thought, no, I'm still not having sex with you. I don't know you.

Speaker 2 And I think once he realized that like I was really expensive, he got up to a million dollars. I probably have this document in my email still.

Speaker 2 And then I said no, because I thought, who in their right mind would pay a million dollars to have sex with someone? There's no way he's not going to dismember my body. Yeah.
Like weird, right?

Speaker 2 It's a lie. If somebody offered you a million dollars to like have sex with you, wouldn't wouldn't you think they would murder you afterwards? Yeah, I'd be weirded out.
I was just too weirded out.

Speaker 2 That's too much because he could probably have sex with so many other people. And then I thought, there's no way I'm going to get that money clean.

Speaker 2 Like afterwards, I felt like I would owe him something still. And he would like stick around and then turn into a stalker.
And so I said, no. Damn.
That was in Dubai. Oh, no.

Speaker 2 This was in real life in Atlanta. Oh, wow.
Atlanta. Wow.
Yeah. That's surprising.
No, but the Dubai stuff is nuts because I've heard people. Like girls are getting shit on you.
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 Yeah, no, you're not shitting on me. Yeah, yeah I wonder how else they're getting for that not enough

Speaker 2 I've heard there's like some secretive escort apps for these high end there is they like message you on whatsapp and I think these girls are getting like 10 Gs to get shit on that's not worth it no but some girls just because you're in OnlyFans doesn't mean you're successful like almost nobody on OnlyFans is successful unless you have a massive following so some of these girls need $10,000 and that's an easy way to make it

Speaker 2 Yeah, how many minutes does it take to get shit on? I don't know. One night of your life, if you're poor, what would you do for $10,000?

Speaker 2 I wouldn't get shit on for $10,000. I wouldn't either, but I can see the appeal.
That's quick money. Yeah, I guess it depends on how much shit it is, but yeah.
Yeah, is it solid? Is it diarrhea?

Speaker 2 Oh my God, if it's diarrhea. Okay, look, if it's solid, you know, I can see that.
Diarrhea, absolutely not. What about piss? You draw the line of piss? That's less disgusting.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 I wouldn't do it, but I see. Golden shower.
I feel like piss is like a big, a big one on OnlyFans too. It's a turn on for OnlyFans.

Speaker 2 It's a, yeah, which I guess because it reminds guys of squirting or something i don't know what it is you know yeah lily said uh she got some in her mouth and then the guy didn't drink water for two days she said it tasted bad i've never tasted piss before thank god i thought one of like the most common fetishes is feet for men yeah there's a site for that and they say because when a baby fetus is developing in the womb, they're curled up like this and their feet are closest to their genitals.

Speaker 2 So there's like a wire that crosses in your brain that

Speaker 2 connects feet with genitals because of the way you're developing in the limb. So that's why foot fetishes are so common.
Good old foot job. I love a foot fetish.
Yeah. Yeah.
Like you like guys' feet?

Speaker 2 No, I like guys who like feet. I like having my feet worshipped.
What's your ranking on that site? The foot ranking site? Oh, I'm not on that site. That's a scam.
You don't make money. Oh, really?

Speaker 2 You don't make money on that site. Oh, the foot finder or whatever? Uh-uh.
No, they're rev shares too. You don't make nothing.
Wow. I didn't know that.

Speaker 2 Cause I used to see them everywhere, but I haven't seen them in a little bit. No, but in real life, I like for a man to like my feet.
Like you're getting a foot massage for an hour a night.

Speaker 2 Like, what? Why would you say no to that? People do that? Yeah. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 2 An hour.

Speaker 2 I can barely massage my girl's back for like 10 minutes.

Speaker 2 I remember I was in college once and I was taking a nap at my friend's house and her neighbor had a foot fetish and he came over while I was in bed taking a nap and I woke up to him rubbing my feet.

Speaker 2 And you like

Speaker 2 I pretended to still be asleep so he would keep going because it I love getting my feet rubbed. Wow, you didn't think it was weird? Yes,

Speaker 2 but it was nice. Wow.
That was like my intro to feet fetishes. And did he get laid after that? No, he was weird.

Speaker 2 Plus, you're picky, it sounds like. Very.
Yeah. Sounds like you're really.
This guy that

Speaker 2 had a foot fetish that was rubbing my feet in college, he ended up on an episode of Catfish on MTV. No.
That's how weird he is. He got catfish? Uh-huh.
Wow. No, he was the catfish.
No way.

Speaker 2 He was catfishing. That's wild.
Yeah. Yeah.
That show's OG. Yeah.
Imagine ending up on there. That's embarrassing.
That's why we have bad attention spans.

Speaker 2 They don't put shows out like that anymore. Yeah.
Someone should reinvent something like that for LF or something. You know what like my guilty pleasure is?

Speaker 2 Is watching like my 600-pound life or watching like what I eat in a day is by those like thousand pounders. Ginos.
Mukbangs. I watch the shit out of them.

Speaker 2 Oh, I love that shit. That keeps my attention.
So you got a food fetish. I guess.
You like food in bed too? No.

Speaker 2 Nah.

Speaker 2 I don't like getting messy. I like watching other people eat.
Okay. Do you eat a lot? I've talked about this before.
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Like, I like if a guy can eat because it makes him seem more manly in my opinion. Like, if a guy's ordering a salad, I just feel like you're a little bitch.
Not to turn off.

Speaker 2 You know, like order a steak and eat it like a man with your bare hands. And I'm like,

Speaker 2 I like that. I don't know.
Yeah. Yeah.
I guess it's okay. Can you see that? Yeah.
Because I've said this before and everyone agreed with me. No, I agree.

Speaker 2 If you're ordering a salad as a man, that's a turn off.

Speaker 2 Sure. Like, why are you eating a salad? Yeah.
No. You eat a whole steak raw.
Yeah. I like a man to like tear his food up.
Cause it just kind of makes me feel like he'd tear me up. Yeah.
You know?

Speaker 2 It must be like the barbarian brain in you. Yes.
I think I have a barbarian brain. Yeah.
Like I'm supposed to just be foraging. at home and tinkering around while my man is out there just like

Speaker 2 gabbering. You said you were a gardener.
Hunting. Yeah, I love homesteading.
I just like bake pies all day. Wow.
What's your best pie? Whatever you want.

Speaker 2 Pecan. Oh, yeah.
Pecan pie.

Speaker 2 That's southern. That's a southern one.
Yeah, pecan pie slaps. Yeah.
Apple pie, solid. Yeah.
What other? Oh, pumpkin pie. No, that's

Speaker 2 the push. That's like,

Speaker 2 no, that's garbage.

Speaker 2 Nobody likes pumpkin pie. I do.
You've never had a good pumpkin pie?

Speaker 2 No, not for me. What's your go-to then?

Speaker 2 I'd say blueberry, probably. Okay.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I love eating. But I'm more of like a meat eater.
I try to do carnivore. Yeah.
Makes me feel the best. Same.
Yeah. It's hard to beat the cardboard.
Yeah, we have to like cancel vegans out.

Speaker 2 You know what I mean? Not a fan of vegans. Nah, I went vegan for two years.
I've never been more fucked up in my life.

Speaker 2 It actually messed my...

Speaker 2 my hormones up so bad that I lost my period for an entire year. Holy shit.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Could you ever date a vegan?

Speaker 2 No.

Speaker 2 They're in their feminine energy. I'm not dating a pussy like that.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 You said you didn't want kids earlier, right?

Speaker 2 Do you think that'll ever change? No.

Speaker 2 I don't think I can have kids. Like I have bad hormonal issues.

Speaker 2 Thank God, because I feel like it's my own birth control. Like my body's like, no, bitch, you're not having kids.
So my body's just not letting me do it anyways. But children,

Speaker 2 I would be a bad mom. I don't have like a nurturing motherly instincts.
Like I'm a fun person. I'm like a fun aunt and like I have a good time with kids, but I obviously need like my own freedom.

Speaker 2 And so I, I wouldn't be a good mom. You're seeing more and more women not wanting kids in America.
Yeah, I think it's because like women have found their independence and we all work now.

Speaker 2 So we can make decisions for ourselves. We're not like a slave to like a husband staying home all day, like the 50s.
Yeah. So we just don't want them.
What do you think of the feminist movement?

Speaker 2 I think it's kind of

Speaker 2 i don't i don't i don't have tons of opinions on it i just do kind of like the way the lifestyle was back in the 50s yeah like when the man does take care of the woman so you're traditional yeah and that's like getting canceled saying that these days which is yeah why can't you be normal anymore it's really weird it's nuts i mean tate really got slammed yeah and like low-key i don't think andrew tate is like that bad of a guy like everything he says in my opinion seems kind of agreeable right Renatza, the woman's saying that, that's impressive.

Speaker 2 A lot of women hate him. The feminists hate him.
And then the people that aren't feminists that don't hate him can't say anything because we'll get canceled for saying that. Right, for defending him.

Speaker 2 Yeah. And it's like, it's okay as a woman to be attracted to someone in their masculine energy.
Like that's biological. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Yeah. He was one of the nicest guys I've ever met.
It's, it's crazy how they portray him online.

Speaker 2 Is it like a tactic of his to like? Yeah, no, he definitely exit on for sure.

Speaker 2 I was was about to say, I think the fact that he exit on doesn't do him any favors, but I think in general, like I would be fine to like sit in the same room with him and have a conversation and we wouldn't get into a fight.

Speaker 2 I'd probably agree with most of the things that he says. He was actually defending Lily Phillips on the podcast.
Oh, really? He said throughout all of history, there's been prostitutes and

Speaker 2 at least she owns it. She doesn't lie about it.
But also, like, the men are the one hiring the prostitutes. The men are the one subscribing to OnlyFans.
The men are the consumers.

Speaker 2 If you guys didn't consume, we wouldn't exist. Right.
So look in the mirror. You got to put some of the blame on the men too.
Yeah. All the blame.

Speaker 2 If you guys didn't exist, we wouldn't be doing what we're doing. We guys didn't consume.
A lot of Simps these days. I looked up what percentage of men under 25 are virgins.

Speaker 2 What is it? 33%.

Speaker 2 How do we know if that's accurate or not? Yeah, I don't know because it's self-admitted. So people could be lying, but.
Yeah. I looked at multiple sites and it was anywhere from like 20 to 35.
So.

Speaker 2 Yeah. I don't know.
Back when I grew up.

Speaker 2 No one was, right? Uh-uh. Yeah, because we were like not on the internet all day.
We were like banging behind the football field, you know? Well, I think women, I hear this a lot.

Speaker 2 They go after like the top 20% guys now because of social media. So the guys that aren't good looking or whatever, they're just not getting action.

Speaker 2 No, that's not true. You don't think so? No, it's personality.
So many ugly men get pussy as long as they're confident.

Speaker 2 I think men lack confidence these days because they don't know how to talk to women anymore because because they don't have social interaction because they're sitting in front of a screen for too long.

Speaker 2 It's all confidence. Any man can get with a woman if he's confident enough.
Really? Oh, yeah. It has nothing.
I only hook up with ugly men. Really?

Speaker 2 I think attractive men are kind of douches, and I don't like that. And I don't like a man always getting what he wants,

Speaker 2 you know? And I, and a man, if they're too attractive and like too groomed,

Speaker 2 I like my man to be a little more like rough around the edges. So I kind of go for the uglier guy, especially if they're, um,

Speaker 2 if they are confident. You hear that about women too, to be fair.
Really? Yeah. The, the super attractive woman get everything they want.
Yeah. So they're just like super hard to please.

Speaker 2 Oh, women are different. Women are beautiful.
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 2 But I think even like the short guys, short kings, they have to make up for their height with their personality.

Speaker 2 And like nine times out of 10, like a short guy is the most confident guy you'll meet in the room. And they're getting all the pussy.
No.

Speaker 2 oh yeah i've hooked up with so many short kings i love a short king damn that's the first girl i've heard say that really yeah maybe i'm just an anomaly yeah i think you are short kings because like i thought women were attracted to someone taller than them they are however personality comes into play imagine there's like a six foot four guy and he's bashful can't make eye contact can't hold conversation he's not getting any pussy

Speaker 2 yeah yeah yeah that's interesting so you could date a guy shorter than you i have really Yeah. He was like a pit bull and like a little chihuahua body.

Speaker 2 Wow. Yeah, I liked it a lot.
That's nuts. What about, what about a guy that weighed less than you? He weighed less than me.
He did? Yeah, he was short. Wow.

Speaker 2 I feel like I wore bigger size clothes than him. Damn.
But he had like an attitude on him and it was nice. Well, they call that Napoleon complex.
He had it. Yeah, which is.
Am I toxic?

Speaker 2 Yeah, you are. Okay.
Yeah. But at least you know it.
Yeah. You said earlier, you know you're hard to deal with.
Yeah. Yeah.
But at least you know that stuff. But I'm a good climb, though.

Speaker 2 Well, some people aren't even aware of that, though. And that's probably.
Yeah. Because then they're just like, what the, I can really adapt to whoever I'm talking to, too.

Speaker 2 Like, if somebody can't really take what I'm saying, like, I'll chill out on them a little bit.

Speaker 2 And I'm also not vocally opinionated. So in real life, like, I'm not like starting problems with people.
I just, if we don't vibe, that's it. So I'm on good terms with everybody.

Speaker 2 Like, I have a good presence, but I definitely am not the norm when it comes to like views on things. That makes sense.
How do you deal with the hate online? Do you just block them?

Speaker 2 I don't get hate online. No way.

Speaker 2 Look at my shit. I don't get any hate.
That's the first time I've heard that from an OF girl. I don't know how.

Speaker 2 My comments are not. I don't need to delete any comments.
Wow. I think because like online, I'm so wholesome because I kind of am in real life.
And like I always put out really positive content.

Speaker 2 And I've always been really vocal about like my anxiety, my agoraphobia, like relatable stuff that I think people know not to to fuck with me because like I'm genuinely a nice person.

Speaker 2 You know, you're so open that they're like, holy shit. Like,

Speaker 2 I guess. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 And I, I don't know if you could tell from my social media, but like I'm not really one to pick on. Like I'm not materialistic.
I'm not posting like Hermes bags and like really annoying shit.

Speaker 2 I'm just being myself. And it's kind of hard to hate on somebody that does that.
Do you post thirst drops? Oh, yeah. Like the most people hate on me is like my titties are saggy.

Speaker 2 And it's like, next, be more creative.

Speaker 2 Like if I wanted wanted to fix that i would i obviously don't care you don't want to get any cosmetic procedures no really my anxiety i can't go i can barely get botox without fainting wow i can't get anything done i'm terrified does botox hurt

Speaker 2 Not really. I think it's just the fact that I'm seeing like a needle come towards my face.
It like raises my blood pressure. And I've fainted before, especially from needles.
Crap.

Speaker 2 So like you expect me to go get a tit job?

Speaker 2 I can't do that. That sounds painful.
Yeah. I'm not a fan of most cosmetic procedures.
Yeah. And plus,

Speaker 2 have you heard of breast implant illness? Yeah. It affects people with the MTFR

Speaker 2 mutetic. What is it? Oh, it does it? Yeah.
I have that gene break. I have it too.
Yeah. Should I re-say that? M-T-H-F-R, right? M-T-H-F-R.

Speaker 2 So people with breast implant illness, they most likely have the MTFHR. What is it? Isn't it M-T-H-F-R, a motherfucker gene? Okay.
That's what I thought. Whatever.
Correct me on that.

Speaker 2 That would look great.

Speaker 2 Shut up, Gary Breca. She's a fucking idiot.

Speaker 2 He's who who got he's who i tested with same so if i were to get my titties done having that gene mutation i'm at a really high risk of having breast implant illness i didn't know that so i was like why would i get it just to get them removed yeah yeah there's a lot of pressure to do those procedures as an of girl i but i think if you lack confidence right like i'm just like too confident to even care like i i'm aware my titties are saggy i don't care trust me i'm aware i don't have juicy lips like i don't care trust me i don't know I'm not a fan of juicy lips.

Speaker 2 I think they look amazing on some girls. I would argue otherwise, but.
Oh, on some girls, they don't, but on some girls, they do. Yeah.
It would look great on me. I just can't do it.

Speaker 2 I just like natural beauty personally. Like, I don't even know.
Like the 90s beauty, like 90s Cameron Diaz, 90s Jennifer Aniston. Please.
Everybody used to look different.

Speaker 2 I don't, I literally don't even like makeup. Everybody looks the same these days because like procedures make you all look identical.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 So I miss when people used to look themselves for sure. 100%.
Jenna, where can people find you and potentially become a customer of yours? Please just go to my Instagram, Jenna Lee.

Speaker 2 Or if I go link below, thanks for coming on. Thanks for having me.
Job checker out, guys.

Speaker 5 See you next time.

Speaker 2 See ya.