Skinnyfromthe9: From Getting Shot to Signing with LA Reid: The Skinnyfromthe9 Story | DSH #1493

And like at the time, I'm not knowing I'm shot.

I just know I'm trying to get up and I can't.

Like, and it's crazy, bro.

Cause like, I used to think, like, you see people like in wheelchairs and shit like that.

Like,

why can't you just walk?

You just get up and walk.

If you really can't, yeah.

Like, once you hurt a bone or like something like that, like, no matter how hard you're trying to get up, you just can't.

She's trying to get up.

All right, guys, Skinny from the nine here.

Someone, we uh, we grew up real, really, really close with each other.

So, yeah, it's crazy to see like this full circle moment, right?

Yeah, yeah, it's crazy.

Bridgewater, Somerville, nuts.

Yeah, a lot of people can't relate to that.

I know, it's crazy.

Even when I was coming over here telling everybody, like, yo, we actually like basically went to high school together.

Yeah, we got made fun of growing up.

Well, you know, back then, I feel like, you know,

today, in today's age, I feel like everybody's trying to do the social media thing.

You know, like everybody's trying to be a podcaster or a rapper or go viral on TikTok and shit like that.

But like back then,

like coming from where from, like, there's those little towns, like that shit was like frowned upon.

Like, like, go to college, get a degree, like, stay in school.

Get a job.

Yeah.

You were like a loser if you went to a community college back then.

Right.

Or if you just did anything in the performing arts, like just trying to rap or make music or anything, anything out of the box is just like,

you know.

I want to give you your flowers though, because you were the first to come out and make it in the social media space from basically Somerset County.

I appreciate that.

I feel like some people like, I don't know, forget that because, you know,

just the internet and shit, but like, I appreciate you even, you know, just giving my flowers and just, you know, acknowledging that.

No, 100%.

I didn't even know that was possible.

You know what I mean?

You were the first to like come out.

I made a lot of people a believer.

Like, I feel like just back home, like, I just made people like, yo, this shit is reality.

Like, look at him.

Like, look at Skinny.

Like, this shit could work.

Yeah, dude, I honestly had no idea that was possible.

I was going the college route and I was depressed as fuck.

And I'm so glad I do this now, honestly.

You were selling the jerseys.

Yeah, I was doing jerseys.

You still do that?

No, that kind of died out.

That blew up, though.

It blew up.

Our top year was like.

What was like the first?

Dude, honestly, I think PNB Rock was like one of the first.

Even before me?

I remember you took pull up to my house.

Yeah, it was around the same time.

You pulled up.

Yeah.

You pulled up to my mom's, my mom's house and shit.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Back then, I was getting like 50,000 likes, like 200,000 story views.

Bro, you were popping.

Yeah.

It was nuts.

I posted that shit.

And I felt like that shit just went crazy after that.

No, I appreciate you doing that because I was just starting out at the time and you actually supported me.

Yeah, I was always down to help people from like just back home, like anything, you know, anything.

I just always wanted people to succeed, you know?

Yeah.

And I feel like just coming where we from, like, it's not like Miami, like California, like

it's central Jersey.

Like, nobody's doing nothing.

Like, you know, it's very like.

Just, what's that word?

It's not city like it's, it's,

what's the opposite of city?

Suburb.

Suburb.

It was suburby.

So nobody's really doing nothing.

Everybody's just, everyone has their life planned out.

100%.

What do you think gave you that creative spark when you were living out there?

I just, for the people, like a lot of people don't know, like my childhood wasn't the best.

You know, I didn't move to Somerville until I was probably like 13.

And like, I feel like some people forget that.

People think that I grew up in Somerville my whole entire life because I just never really like talked about my past life.

But, you know, I had a mom with seven, my mom, single mom, seven kids.

You know, my dad went to prison.

My stepdad went to prison.

You know, just a single mom, we're getting evicted everywhere we go, shit like that.

It wasn't until I turned like 13 where my dad got out of prison and my dad was ready to be a father.

And my dad took me and my brother Josh in.

At that point, that's when it was like, I had stability.

And like, just, I always wanted to make music.

Like, I just, I just wanted to make music.

I wanted to tell my story.

And like, I just felt like I was destined for something more.

Like, I was destined for greatness.

So I just,

it was just always, it was, it was either that, it was like music or nothing, you know?

Yeah.

So that, my, my life was my inspiration, you know?

Damn, you're right.

And then, and then, you know, like people like Fetty Watt blowing up, got to give Fetty his flowers for being from Jersey.

Um, I was like probably like a senior in high school when he blew up.

And I was just watching that.

And like that even made it more like, I'm like, yo, this shit could really happen, you know, like like Fetty just blew up.

Like he's going crazy.

And it just really made me want to take it even more serious.

Like

I started going to Real Studios.

I started like just working at, I got like three jobs.

I was working at Wendy's, working at ShopRight, working everywhere, just saving every single paycheck I had to just pay for like fucking studio time, pay for music videos, pay to buy these beats and just shit like that.

And, you know, it finally like worked out, you know?

Yeah.

How many years in would you say you got some traction it wasn't like i feel like

like i was i mean i was dropping music my whole entire life you know like even like just being a freshman even middle school like going to summerville middle school i was dropping music all the time but like it wasn't good but it i didn't quit i just kept trying to get better at my craft get better at my craft get better at my craft and then it finally worked out you know and probably like you know probably after high school is where you could say like i started really taking it serious because like it was like that that this is like, it's fourth and goal.

Like, something's got to happen.

Like, I'm out of high school.

I'm not trying to be a bum.

I'm not trying to fucking, you know, so that was like, I probably graduated when.

I don't know.

We probably graduated the same year.

What time?

What year did you go?

I graduated 15.

Yeah, I probably graduated like 2015.

And then there was time.

I didn't blow up till 2018.

Well, I blew up the ending of 2017, like around Thanksgiving, 2017.

So what, two years?

15, 16, 17.

Yeah.

And then, yeah, everything just worked out.

I remember you came to my mom's house after signing that million dollar deal, bro.

Crazy.

Yeah, yeah.

Million dollar deal with LA Reid.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

That was epic.

That was epic.

Did you get the money all at once?

Like, how did that work?

So I ended up getting like portions.

You know, I ended up getting like probably like $500,000 up front when I signed.

I think I got like another like $250,000 after we had dropped the first single.

And then I think another $250.

when I dropped my first project.

Damn.

That's nuts.

Was that single Love Blast or was that?

The single?

No.

See, I kind of regret signing to LA Reed because I just feel like they had no structure, you know.

And like, I kind of got fucked over when I signed my deal.

Cause like at the time, like, I never really spoke about this.

Um, when Love Blast dropped and like it was going super, super viral, like it was like number 10 on like the SoundCloud charts of like new and upcoming artists.

That's what really like put me on like the spotlight for labels.

Cause that's what they check, you know, like, is your music trending without, without a label?

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Like, are you able to, like, are people listening to you?

So, like, I got blessed when I got on the charts of the, of the SoundCloud.

So, when that happened, everybody hit me up.

So, labels and like managers and shit like that.

And, like, long story short, I ended up signing like a, like a little like management deal to like this guy.

Uh, his name's Jay Mogul.

And, um, it kind of like, I didn't, I lost my exclusive, exclusive right to pick who I wanted to be signed to.

Damn.

So, as I'm take, but at the time, I didn't know that.

So at the time, like Interscope is hitting me up.

Like John Janick, Joey IE, 300, Todd Moskowitz,

I said Interscope, Atlantic.

So many people hitting me up.

And I'm taking all these meetings and shit like that.

They're flying me and my family out first class, putting us like in crazy hotels, like paying for all of our food and shit like that.

And

I ended up getting a meeting with L.A.

Reed.

He's like, yo, I'll give you a million dollars if you sign to me.

And like, I took the meeting and, you know, we, we, we, uh, we negotiated while we were there.

And like, at the end of the meeting, I was just like, I'll let you know what I want to do.

So, like, as we're leaving the meeting and shit like that, I'm talking to the manager, Jay Mogul.

And he's like, yo, we're going to go with L.A.

Reed.

And at the time, I wanted to go with Atlantic because I just felt like they had a better structure at the time.

And like, you know, they were popping.

You know, they kind of had the formula back then.

It was like, get a lyrical lemonade video, like do a no-jumper interview, and then like we put you on tour with like a big artist.

And then from then on, like, you're kind of set.

It's kind of like, it's kind of autopilot after that.

So

I didn't get, I didn't, I lost my exclusive.

So I'm telling him, like, yo, I don't want to, I don't want to go with LA Reed.

I kind of want to go to Atlantic.

Long story short, we kind of like, you know, bickered back and forth.

And he was just like, yo, like, you lost your exclusive right to even pick who you want to be signed to, to be honest.

But like, so it's not really even a discussion.

You know, like, we're going with LA Reid and he wanted to go with LA Reed because he was getting 15%

out of whatever deal I was going to take.

So I forgot how much Atlantic was offering me.

Maybe they were offering me like 300K.

So what's 15% out of 300K versus 15% out of a million?

So he had his best interest.

He didn't have my best interest because anybody would have known that Atlantic was definitely like the route to go.

Damn.

So you think you would have had a totally different career if you signed with Atlantic?

Absolutely.

I would have got the lyrical lemonade video.

I would have got, I mean, I did the no jumper interview, but like I had a lot of people.

Just a few of those.

Yeah, I would have got just better, just better, like,

I don't know, like opportunities, you know?

Yeah.

So.

Damn, that's nuts.

Yeah, I hear a lot of horror stories in the music industry with people signing the wrong company.

I'm one of the ones that got into some shit like that.

Were you able to get out of that?

Yeah, I ended up getting out of it, but it wasn't for like years, you know, like it was like a lot of work.

And then like by the time, like, I wasn't dropping, I wasn't allowed to drop music for a long time.

So, you know, my music kind of like faded away.

Fans forgot about me.

People forgot about me.

That's just, that's just what it is, you know?

People forget quick in the music industry, right?

Exactly.

Cause there's always somebody new blowing up.

So, you know, you're always going to, if you're not constantly dropping, and I want to drop, I wanted to drop music.

I just wasn't able to because now I'm going through legalities and shit like that.

So shit kind of just like fucked me over, low-key.

Damn.

Is that why you moved out here to Vegas?

I moved out to Vegas because, you know, it's just better.

One, it's cheap as fuck out here.

I don't give a fuck what nobody says.

Like, it's cheap as fuck out here versus being in New Jersey or like the East Coast.

They're just expensive as fuck.

You know, like you get a nice like two-bedroom, one-bedroom out here for like half the price that you would get it in New Jersey.

No state tax, too.

Right.

You know, just got to control that gambling.

It's cheap to live out here, but then when you start gambling, that shit becomes, you don't know what the fuck is going on at that time.

You're a big gambler?

Low-key.

I picked up a big gambling like fucking habit living here.

Damn.

What's your game, Blackjack?

Dude, I fucking play everything.

I play free bet, blackjack, uh, craps, baccarat.

But, like, my go-to is like

baccarat and craps.

And let's talk about running into a certain individual at one of these casinos.

Okay, what you want to say?

Steve will do it.

That video went viral, dude.

I didn't even know you lived here when that video came out.

Right.

See, I feel like that was like a big like misunderstanding.

Cause like my boy JR, that's like my manager.

Yeah.

JR, the mechanic.

We

gamble a lot.

He gambles too.

So like we're at Red Rock one day.

We're just chilling and shit, gambling and shit.

And him and his wife,

they make rugs, right?

They make like personal rugs.

Like they made one of me and PNB Rock.

And

he saw, I didn't see him.

He saw Steve Will do it.

So like he got up and went to go try to talk to him and basically was trying to like promote his business.

But after he was going to promote his business, he was going to be like, yo, like i'm with skinny like let's do something like we should do some content whatever it is but like he didn't even get the chance to even present himself i guess from what from what my understanding that you know he was gambling a lot and he was losing like a lot of money at that time but like that's the he kind of like told not in those words but like the way like jr told me jr was kind of like he kind of basically told him to fuck off like not saying fuck off but like just that attitude and uh

you know or maybe and my boy jr got money like jr has money so it's not even like we're like oh you're just broke as like you're looking for a handout like that's kind of how my boy jr took it so but like i said i wasn't even there for that first interaction so then jr comes back to the table like yo that guy steve wildew it's a jerk i was like damn like

i don't know you feel me he's like and he was like yo i'm about to uh i'm about to go tell him about himself like i'm about to tell him like you're a fucking jerk so we get up we start walking and shit.

And, you know, at first, JR, I don't know if you saw the video.

At first, JR is being respectful.

Like, it's the security of the casino, the security of the casino.

And like, whoever Steve would do it, they actually made the situation worse.

Cause like JR is being, I don't know if you watch the video, JR is being really respectful.

But the security is like pushing him back.

So like now you're making something that was very calm and very like passive.

Like you're actually making him get aggressive because like you're pushing somebody back who's just trying to speak.

So now then JR gets heated.

JR takes his shirt off.

Then JR likes, then Steve tried to like, Steve basically, now Steve's being disrespectful to JR.

So now they start clashing.

Mind you, if you watch the video, I'm literally just standing there.

I'm just standing there.

I'm just watching this happen.

So, but JR not being famous, JR not having like no Instagram following, like you wouldn't know who JR was.

So like he obviously, when they were arguing, you saw my face.

He knows me.

So he immediately just DN'd me and just started talking hella shit.

And like he didn't really even give me the chance to explain myself.

He kind of was just like, fuck you.

And like, fuck me.

What did I do?

I didn't do nothing.

I'm just here.

Right.

Yeah.

So I just felt like that was kind of fucked up.

But, you know, if it was up to me, we could like redo that whole situation again and like just talk it out.

And like, like, bro, like, shit, if you felt offended about my boy, like, shit, my boy.

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Well, apologize.

And like, if you felt offended by anything I do, my bad.

You know, we're men.

Fuck that shit.

That shit don't really, like, if you're watching this, Steve, my bad, bro.

You know?

That shit was everywhere.

Right.

Every outlier.

John out of proportion.

Yeah.

You know, completely out of proportion.

Did you get banned from the casino?

Nah, yo, I didn't even get banned right away.

If I got banned like six months later.

Really?

And I wasn't even, I didn't even get banned at Red Rock.

You know, Red Rock is a station casino.

Yeah.

So I do, I do a lot of my gambling at station casinos.

So I'm at Santa Fe.

I don't know if you know where that's at.

Santa Fe?

It's a local casino.

It's a no, no, it's a local casino.

So, but it belongs to Red Rock.

Okay.

So, and it's like close to where I live.

So I'm over here at Santa Fe.

I hit a 9-7,

like I had 20, three card 9.7 at $25 on there.

That shit paid me like almost like $5,000.

As soon as I hit it, security, everybody everybody comes over like you know you're banned right i'm playing dumb i'm like because i know that santa fe is a station casino so i'm like nah i don't i'm not banned because they got to formally banned you

so they were like nah i'm like nah they're like yeah you had like a situation at red rock i was like

i still got my money though but then i was like you can't come back here and i was mad as hell because i like going to that casino so yeah station's got a lot of good casinos yeah they got durango durango santa fa green Valley, Sound Rock.

And they're building a new one.

Right.

I had to like go bring my fucking gambling somewhere else.

So just because you're loyal to your boy, you get banned from right, but it wasn't even like that.

Like my boy didn't even do anything.

I mean, he took his shirt off and caused a scene, but

it's because security is being aggressive

as somebody who's just talking to you normal.

They were probably trying to protect Steve because he's a big customer for them.

You know what I mean?

Yeah, but you got to treat everybody with respect and fairness, you know?

Yeah.

Like, you don't, you can't just judge a book by its cover.

Like, I understand Steve's rich as fuck.

So, like, they're probably trying to keep people who, like,

broke, you know, like, but, like, JR has had money.

Like, he has money.

So, you don't even know what you're talking about.

Yeah.

You know, that's nuts, dude.

Have you made up with Adam?

You guys cool now?

Me and Adam fucking became cool like fucking, like, four years ago.

Me and Adam's been cool, bro.

Like, Adam, Adam, me and Adam, we got like a love-hate relationship, you know?

Ever since, like, I feel like I've been cool with Kenyela.

Yeah.

You know, him and Kenyela got like some type of beef.

I feel like

he like tries to throw shade sometimes, but like, we talk all the time, you know, it's like fucking content, you know.

Fuck that shit.

I don't be taking none of this shit to heart.

Like, I took my heart out of this shit.

Like, I already know, like, this shit just be all fun and games, bro.

I don't take none of this shit serious.

Yeah, there's a lot of beef on the internet.

That's just.

content.

And people see each other, then it's a, it's a video.

Yeah.

It's a video.

Like, it's fucking hilarious.

Yeah.

I like being myself, though.

I try not to like fake shit.

Yeah.

Um, I feel like you don't really show your face too much, you know?

Like, you're like more of like focusing on the guest, yeah.

Well, I have an 80-20 rule, you know.

What's that?

I try to give the guests 80% of the talking time.

Okay, yeah.

Yeah.

That's like what you do in podcasting.

That's what you have to do because sometimes the host talks too much.

If you talk too much, you're going to forget the host.

The guest is going to forget what.

forget what he was going to say and then you miss out on a good story 100 slash content yeah so you're at peace with all your previous beef sell like you've forgiven everyone yeah man you don't care like yeah like even like back home like just local bro like i don't know if you know him um you know djt yeah terrence was that the fire incident i won't we're not even gonna speak about that but um it's more like we had like our own little situation like i recently just seen him like we were hella we were we were good friends before this yeah like before like the fame and clout but like when the when when that popped off you know we had like a little beef but that's really my boy man and like He be doing his thing too with the DJ shit.

I've heard his name a few times.

Yeah, he's doing his thing with the DJ shit, bro.

uh you know a few other people back home uh my boy chimma aka i don't know if you know him damson no damson he he was a rapper but like he switched to a star but like damson jenkins going crazy like he just did a scene with blacked you know what black is no what is up it's like a big like company yeah like and he's from he's from he's from like the town damn so anybody whatever it is whether it's like rap music djing clothing anybody who like just like got to get to like that main take it a step further like get mainstream you know you got to give them their flowers you know so for sure shout out shout out to those guys and you still talk to uh tray way right yeah i still talk to shoddy free shoddy um he calls me all the time we chop it up and like that uh he should be coming home soon one day oh really i thought he got

yeah i'm you know when people are locked up they always say they're coming home soon you know you got to be positive right even if you got 20 years from now you're coming home soon because you're coming home one day if you don't got life you coming home one day

so there's something to look forward to.

Yeah.

I remember when they sent us him, I was like, holy shit.

Yeah.

Like, I didn't expect it to be that.

Man, that shit.

A free shotty, man.

He's a good guy, bro.

That whole shit with 6ix9ine and all that shit, I feel like 6ix9ine was capping a little bit.

Did you get it?

I know some people definitely did take advantage of him for sure.

You know, but like when you really break it down to like who took advantage of you, like Shodi, I feel like I've seen Shodi with my own eyes, like ready to risk it all for 6ix9ine.

You know, like ready to like, and he has kids and like that ready to risk everything just to see 6ix9ine succeed so like on that aspect of man like i feel like that was up i wonder what 6ix9ine is doing these days yeah who knows bro i haven't seen much about him lately right maybe you know i saw he was doing like some spanish music used to be everywhere though dude that that peak was like

that was a crazy bro that was like andrew tate level yeah like that was yeah that was crazy bro like 2018 was a year to be alive i don't know if another artist will ever be able to get that that nah that quickly you know 6ix9ine did his thing bro like i don't care what people say he did his thing you rode that wave too good timing for you right right um yeah you know well i was supposed to get a song with 6ix9ine like when i did get signed to la re this is how i even know shoddy so i was supposed to get a song like when i got signed and this is before like 6ix9ine like people hated him at one people forget at one point he was loved

so um i had just signed my deal la re was like yo who you want to do a song with you know know, me and my brother, we decided that 6ix9ine would be a good look.

So we wanted to do the song with 6ix9ine.

So, you know, my label inquired with his label.

And

I think

Shodi ended up being on that call.

And

it came to Shadi's ear.

And we were going to do the song.

And then L.A.

Reed changed his mind last minute.

So it never happened.

But then I probably ended up seeing Shadi like probably like a month later at

a mall in Jersey.

I forgot what the mall was.

He was shopping.

And, you know, he was like, yo, skinny.

And I was like, yo, blah, blah, blah.

What happened with that song?

I thought we was about to do a song and shit like that.

And I was like, yeah, my label.

I don't know.

They changed their mind.

But he was like, yo, come, I'm going to just introduce you to 69.

Like, come with me tonight.

And yeah, we were just rocking out since then.

Damn, that's crazy.

So your label was really getting in your way, man.

Low-key, bro.

Like, even Love Blast, bro.

Like, Love Blast was going stupid.

Yeah, that song popped up.

Like, that was the song.

Like, now that it's going stupid, we supposed to get a remix.

You know, we supposed to, like, like, do so much shit with that song.

They completely scrapped it and then wanted to work on a whole new song.

And, like, the song, the numbers, like, Back When I Was Broke.

That was a good one, too.

Yeah, but like, feel like we were supposed to fucking put the gas behind Love Blast and then follow up with Back When I Was Broke.

But they completely scrapped Love Blast and just went back when I was broke.

And I just felt like that was stupid.

Damn.

I wonder what their thought process was in all this.

Because obviously they want to.

From what I've heard, from what I've heard, people like labels, they want to take credit for everything.

So anything they did before you, I mean, anything you did before them, their hands weren't in on it.

So it's like they don't really want to be associated with it.

They rather like, now let's do something where we could take credit for.

Like, we gave you this beat.

We helped you make the lyrics.

We did this.

We did that, you know?

Yeah.

So what's your strategy now?

Cause the game's changed a lot, right?

Like it's a different landscape.

Really, bro, I've just been, I'm still just doing music.

I got this one song I'm about to drop.

It's called See You.

It's going, it's pretty, it's getting a lot of good feedback on Instagram.

I'm just making music, bro, and like, you know, just reaching out to artists, new and old, and, you know, just getting back to what people like loved about me, you know?

And

I'm smarter, a lot wiser now.

You know, I got a lot of connections.

So I'll just be reaching out and shit like that.

And yeah, we, we, we figuring it out.

You seem way more level-headed now, man.

I know you were in a lot of drama, like when we were growing up.

Yeah, man.

Like, I just feel like, dude, I just, I feel like if I would have blown up anywhere else, like, a lot of people wouldn't have gotten mad but because we were such from a town where there's no success when it comes to as far as like performing arts you know yeah uh people just get mad that it wasn't them or they can't grasp the uh they can't fathom like how did he do it and not me i'm sure that happens to you it did like how did he like sell these jerseys and like i didn't think of that or like you know and it's like you just didn't have the grind bro like you didn't have the grind you didn't have the patience You just should never give up on nothing you do because you don't know how close you are to reaching where you're supposed to get to.

Bro, my friend showed me a group chat.

There's like a group chat of all like 100 guys from my school.

And they were saying, like, I can't wait till Sean fails.

Like, like, I've, and it's crazy, bro.

Like, I've never been like that, bro.

Like, even like growing up, like just in high school, everybody, there was a few other people that made music, like in Bridgewater and in Somerville.

Like, and, you know, I wasn't the favorite.

You know, my music wasn't that good.

There were some, there were people that were better than me, people that I thought like, oh, yeah, that guy's going to go somewhere.

I was never the type like, fuck him, fuck him.

I hate him.

Like, I was always like, I never, I could honestly say in my soul, bro, I never hated on the next man.

Wow.

I never, never, no jealousy, never, no shade, nothing, bro.

So when people did it to me, it was, I was just like, wow, like, I'm God's chosen one, bro.

Cause like when you break it down, bro, like they hated Jesus.

Yeah.

You know, they stoned Jesus to death.

So like, I just always, I'm the chosen one, bro.

Like, I'm the chosen one.

Did you feel like you had a chip on your shoulder from all the hate?

I did, bro.

And like, what I realize now is like, I was supposed to lead by example.

So just because, just because

like I like to break it down like this, like when somebody's fake to you,

you shouldn't be fake back because then you're no better than that person.

You're, you're fake too.

You know?

Yep.

So.

I didn't have that mentality back then.

So whenever, when somebody would say something negative about me or like I remember like, oh, you didn't support me or you didn't do this or you didn't do this or you laughed at me i was the first to try to go do it back to them damn and like that's not it because then i'm just no better than you i'm the same person you are and i'm life is all about leading by example you know you got to lead by example so even if it's gonna you gotta suck your pride in sometimes and you have to you have to lead by example you have to be like just because you said me don't mean i'm gonna say fuck you like you know i'm gonna i'm gonna show you the real way is done i'm gonna show you how to do this the right way Right.

And, like, I should have had that mentality back then, but I'm older now, you know.

When you're younger, and you, it's hard, bro.

It's hard.

You're older.

You had a couple near-death experiences, too.

Yeah, that probably changed your perspective, right?

Dude, I still remember that shooting.

Yeah.

You were like on live, right?

Yeah.

Crazy.

That's funny because I get a lot of flack for that.

But, like, bro, how many of us have been shot?

Right.

And then, like, if you have been shot, like, I don't want nobody to wonder what happened to me.

You know, like, like, let's say I died.

And, like, let's say I did die when that happened.

And, like, my family and my friends were like, like, what happened?

Like, I don't want no confusion.

Like, I got shot.

I'm over here.

And I'm about to die.

You feel me?

Like, and I want, I wanted my, everybody, no confusion.

And like, you know, people were like, that shit was taken the wrong way.

But, like, yeah, bro, I almost got shot.

I did get shot.

I almost died, low-key.

That was in Miami, right?

Yeah, it was in Miami and brickle, bro.

Like, you got to watch out.

I was moving really sloppy, though.

You know, I always, I always never knew how big I was.

You know, like, I always like thought like I,

like, I could just do normal people shit.

Right.

So, like, me being in Miami, I was moving very sloppy.

I'm running around with a book bag filled with like $100,000.

I'm over here walking around with all this jewelry.

Bro, I'm over here walking with a book bag with $100,000.

Damn.

And I don't want to pay for valet.

I don't want to break none of my husbands.

You were walking to your car i walked to my car instead of just parking in valet geez 20 bucks 20 bucks i'd have never got shot so i'm walking back to my car i'm with my boys too though i wasn't with like no real security but i'm i'm i was with my boys who who uh you know who play like that and you know uh rip one of them man one of them died on some completely

yeah something completely miscellaneous you know they died at night or different nah like i said miscellaneous like he died on the you know he was in the streets rip wolf

But yeah, I'm with my people.

I'm like, ain't nobody going to try us.

Like anybody try us going to be a shootout.

Like somebody's going to die.

Feel me?

Because I'm with a lot of people who I was with people who, you know, play like that.

So I wasn't expecting nobody to do something, bro.

And like, you know, so we not even, we lollygagging walking to the car.

Like, I'm not even walking to the, I'm not even walking to the car like in a rush.

I'm just like, man, we walk into the car.

We drinking.

You know, we having conversations and shit like that.

Like talking about bitches we want to fuck and shit like that.

So boom like random car pulls up

gta in real life starts happening like bro like my boy starts shooting he passes me a gun i start shooting at somebody i'm ducking behind car windows and like that i'm like what the is going on

you feel me like real life gta you feel me just you're not gonna spawn back if you die so uh and then boom like i just realized i got hit like i'm like i get hit in my leg i fall to the ground and

and i'm like what the bro and like, surprisingly, bro, like, I don't know, like, we were in Brickle, good area.

So probably like within like five minutes of the altercation, we already hear sirens.

I'm on the floor bleeding out.

I already hear the sirens.

So that made the people that tried us, they just hopped in their car and leave.

Damn.

And like, I'm just on the ground bleeding out.

Oh, so they didn't even get anything?

Nah.

Wow.

So I'm on the car.

I'm on the ground just bleeding out and fucking.

Like, yeah, I don't even know what's going on.

I'm like, my boy like said, yo, you want me to wait for you?

Like, do i leave and you know he's shooting somebody illegally he just shot at somebody illegally and so he i'm like he gets to i'm like bro just leave you feel me so he runs away he leaves and i'm just on the ground bleeding out and finally like paramedics and police come and shit like that and like at the time i'm not knowing i'm shot i just know i'm trying to get up and i can't like and it's crazy bro because like i used to think like You see people like in wheelchairs and shit like that.

Like,

like, why can't you just walk and just get up and walk?

you really can't yeah like once you hurt a bone or like something like that like no matter how hard you're trying to like get up you just can't jeez you couldn't even walk no i couldn't walk i broke my femur so i got a metal rod in my leg i had to get surgery i got like a metal yeah i got a metal bullet went straight through the the femur yeah i actually still have the bullet inside me oh my god yeah because like it would to it would have did uh more damage trying to take the bullet out than just letting your tissue just grow over it that's the police that's what the paramedics said and shit like that but like yeah like i don't know there was a joke going around like i got shot in my ass like bro bro if i had to get surgery for my femur and my femur broke how is that even like how is that even a thing that's nuts you know like yeah i got shot in my leg what were you thinking those moments where you're like

i'm gonna be this is unfiltered 100 bro like i remember the paramedics got me i could still speak you know like i'm not dying like i'm like i'm bleeding out you feel me like And people say it's just a leg shot, but you know, the football player, Sean Taylor, to play for the Redskins, they broke into his house.

he died from a leg shot yeah if you hit an artery in your leg

like a few people died from a leg shot plexical burrs he didn't die but like he suffered like a lot of uh like he got when he brought the gun in the club and shot himself by accident like you that's that's serious so what's it called um i just remember like i'm not knowing where i'm shot at yet remember i just know i'm shot because they're telling me and they don't even know where i'm shot they just see a bunch of blood on the floor so i'm just like i remember they finally put me in the stretcher i'm looking at the uh the nurse and the paramedic in the ambulance.

I'm just like, yo, like, am I going to be able to have babies?

Like, did I get shot like somewhere where I like, did I get shot in my dick?

That's the first thing I asked.

Did I get shot in my dick?

He's like, no.

I'm like, so I can still have babies one day, right?

He said, yes.

All right.

So then break it down to me.

I got shot in my spine, didn't I?

I'm never going to walk again.

He's like, no, you'll be able to walk again.

You just got shot in your leg.

I was like, thank God.

I was like, are you sure?

Don't, don't lie to me.

Just give it to me uncut.

Like, I don't care.

I'm strong enough for it.

He said, bro, relax.

You just got shot in your leg.

You're going to need a new femur.

And, like, you'll be able to walk again.

I was like, okay, good.

So your first thought was, am I going to have kids?

So you want kids.

Or like have sex again.

Like, do I get shot in my dick?

Like, just keep it a buck.

As a guy, that would suck.

That's right.

Right, right, right.

All I care about is like having sex.

Yeah, that was the peak of your career.

You're probably having a bunch of sex.

I wouldn't have sex.

Yeah.

East Coast girls or West Coast?

Anybody, bro.

East Coast, West Coast, whatever, as long as you look good.

Yeah, you don't care?

Yeah, I'll be trying to hit something with the locals.

I like East Coast.

I'd be like trying to hit some of the girls we went to school with.

I got lucky with a few of them.

They're more innocent.

Yeah, when you're exposed to this industry, like, I don't really like, you know, what I attract at least, you know, like, I think I'm pretty good looking.

I attract a lot of girls.

But, like, the girls that always go after me are going to be like strippers.

Right.

bartenders,

you know, like nightlife girls.

And like, I don't like that.

You know, i want like i like regular girls like back in like bridgewater somerville type i like no work done no bbl no none of that like i like normal with like some good ass pussy yeah no work for me too fake boobs turn off right right i never even when i had like a hella bread i still like i don't know it's just a turn off like this is fake like right botox now is hot right right can't even smile exactly and you got a michael jackson face yeah you dealt with actually facial paralysis right yeah i did bro.

That was also like, I just, yo, that shit with the facial paralysis.

So like, I remember, this is no warning.

I remember I woke up one day and like,

I forgot what side this happened at, but like one of my sides, I remember it, I just kept like crying all day from that eye.

Not crying, but like it was getting watery and it just kept tearing.

Yeah.

And I'm just like, damn, bro, like my allergies are acting up.

So I'm just, I keep rubbing my eye the whole entire day and like not knowing that like I'm fucking having facial paralysis.

So I will go all day.

I'm just rubbing my eye.

Shit just keeps getting watery.

Finally, the next day I go to sleep.

Next day, I'm still having the same problem.

I'm like, what the fuck is going on?

I finally go to the mirror.

I'm like, I'm looking at my eye.

I try to blink.

I'm like, holy shit.

One side didn't blink.

I'm like, wait, what the fuck?

I'm blinking again.

I'm like, oh, shit.

So I go get my dad and my, my, this girl I was talking to at the moment.

I'm like, yo, like, look at my face.

Like, I can't blink.

And like, then I try to smile.

I'm like, oh, shit, I can't even smile from this side either.

So I was like, oh, damn, I was tripping, bro.

I thought, like, I was possessed.

Like, I thought the fucking omen just like took over my body.

And I thought I'm about to like fucking just like become a fucking demon and just like kill everybody.

Like, I was tripping.

Yeah.

So then I'm like, we got to go to the hospital right now.

And then like, they just told me like, yeah, like you had Bell's palsy.

They said said it happens without warning and like it just goes away by itself so i probably had that for like a month and then one day i just like looked in the mirror and like it went away damn a month though yeah that's pretty long holy that was hella weird i was trying to like make music and like i'm trying to like chill with people and i'm just like man i'm over here with like the fucking like fucking joker face like

hey And you haven't gotten it back since?

No, I haven't, surprisingly.

But like one of my eyes, I think one of my eyes suffered from that because now when I meet people, they don't tell me immediately, but like later on, like when we get close, not even people, girls, they'd be like, you know, like you have like a lazy eye?

I was like, no, I don't.

Which one is it?

I don't know.

So like, I can't tell.

Right.

But like, I guess like, you know, girls are different when you're like fucking them and shit like that.

They pay attention to everything you do.

Yeah, that's true.

Yeah.

They said, I've been told that a few times.

I have a lazy eye.

So I guess that was one of the side effects that happened from that.

You liking the girls out here in Vegas?

Some of them, it's a lot of prostitutes and shit.

Like, you know, I'm just from the East Coast.

I'm not used to that.

But like, if you are a prostitute, like, I just feel like there's no like future with us unless like, you know, like you give me your money type shit.

Like a pimp.

Like a pimp.

Yeah.

Cause like, what do I look like loving on you?

But like you're going, like, getting smashed every night and you're coming back with like thousands of dollars.

So like off rip, like I need that.

You know?

And then like we could like work on ourselves.

I couldn't date an OF girl.

Hell no.

Well, OF is different.

That's like digital pimping.

You think it's different?

That's digital pimping.

You could date an OF girl?

Yeah.

If they're making like tens of thousands of dollars, why not?

I've like removed myself from like a lot of shit.

Like, I don't know.

Like, I'm just.

I'm just stuck to it.

I'm just like, I don't know.

I really don't care.

Like,

if I had an OF girl and what she's getting naked.

Getting naked, but also typing to the guys, like sending them nudes and shit.

I'll be the one typing.

Shit, what you need?

Then it's a business, right?

I'll be the type all right what do you want you want like a picture of my tits so now i'm telling her like yo send a picture of your tits but like does it you're getting i feel like but i've been cheated on before in the past yeah and like it hurts obviously like when you really love somebody but like why does it hurt have you ever asked yourself why does it hurt oh we're getting deep now how why does it hurt when somebody cheats on you like physically you're saying yeah

because

That should only be for you.

Right.

But

me, I thought deeper.

I'm like, I've been cheated on before and I always ask myself, like, damn, like, this shit fucking, it hurts, you know?

But like, why?

And then I realized something.

I'm like,

I invested so much into this person.

You know, like, I spent a lot of money on them, took them on trips, bought them shit.

So I invested a lot of stuff into this person.

And then I realized when the people that I didn't invest in nothing into, And I maybe did like them and like they probably went to go do their own thing.

I never gave a fuck.

I only gave a fuck about the people that I invested so much into.

So like it all just like, from a business standpoint, it just hurts to see somebody enjoy your hard work.

Right?

Right.

So like you go fuck somebody else and I'm the one that like, you know, I fucking gave you your confidence.

I fucking posted you all over my Instagram.

I fucking gave you hella followers.

I fucking made you popping, you know, like, so.

yeah that shit bothers me so now it just came down to a science where i'm just like

if i'm not if i like i'm not the type to like just like go super hard for nobody no more like it's just like i rather like i said you want only fans all right we both gonna work at this you know what i'm saying like we both it's gonna be a business and i just i view relationships as businesses now damn that's an interesting take right so i think you've been heartbroken so many times basically is what you're saying that you don't want to invest in a girl anymore right unless like she's invested in me now it's an equal investment you know what i'm saying like you damn near got to take me out to dinner first if you're on that type of time you know what i'm saying but like usually like i don't know like the normal girls and like that like normal girls like from like bridgewater somerville they don't really like be on like that so it's like i don't know nobody like really from bridgewater summer doing only fans no right so it's like those type of girls you know we go get a drink or something like that but like all that like wining and dining shit like i just feel like i should only do that if like

you're really exclusive to me.

You know what I'm saying?

It's like, so like, I'm not really like i'm not on that i know a lot of dudes i spend like six figures a year on woman blows my mind and get no pussy barely any uh come on bro and yo girls know that like you're a trick you know what i'm saying like that's viewed that like you're out here like you'll get laughed at i'm not on that

like you feel me like i'm not taking you nowhere like you're gonna chill with me because you like me you feel me I'm not applying pressure or trying to prove myself.

Like, what type of joke is that?

Yeah.

What type of joke is that?

Because I broke it down where like the girls that really like, girls that I've slept with and girls that really like me, I never had to do none of that.

Why?

Because if a girl really likes you, she'll fucking go to your fucking, you can live in a box.

She'll come fucking hang out with you at your box.

Yeah.

You know what I'm saying?

So that whole apply pressure and shit like that, that's what bitches say to they already got somebody.

They already have somebody in their mind that they want.

So now they want you to like, and that person doesn't want them.

So now you're like trying to, man, I ain't proving myself this shit.

You already know me.

okay skinny front of nine big skinny rapper i got nigga you already know me i don't need to prove myself if you don't know if you like me within the first hour what the are we even talking about

you feel me i'm charismatic i'm passionate i'm funny i can look good there's nothing to talk about you don't know if you like me then that's your own problem bro i don't got to take you out on dinner to figure out if you like me no dinner dates right

You think you'd ever do an exclusive relationship again?

Because when I first met you, you were in a long.

How long did you date that chick for?

That's funny, bro.

We dated a, I mean, like, I was with her like my whole entire high school career.

That's funny.

My whole entire high school career and a little bit after high school.

And, you know, we broke up because of me.

I thought you got too big.

I wasn't, I wasn't famed.

No, I wasn't famed.

No, we broke up.

Love Blast came from her.

Oh, that was for her?

She broke up with me.

I went to the studio.

I made that song.

Because I was sad and heartbroken.

And then that song blew up.

That's crazy.

That's the movie shit.

And she wanted you back.

She did.

We spoke a little bit after the fact.

You know, she's, she's married and married now.

I don't really want to be putting her business out like that.

Yeah.

Shit.

And like, you know, but

yeah, we chilled a few times after that.

And,

you know, we had that conversation.

Obviously, it's funny.

But ultimately, like, you know, we broke up because of me.

You know, I wasn't loyal.

So

how could I be mad that you move on and you go do something else?

That's another thing where people like fail to realize.

It's like, you can't expect nothing from nobody after you have hurt that person right like people gonna go do whatever they want damn and just always have that mentality like expect nothing from nobody except to do what people do they're gonna go fuck whoever they want they're gonna go do whatever they want you've reflected a lot man you're like way more mature

philosopher no you're you're way more mature than i am i've done this shit bro like i've really like had some long talks with myself people won't ever come to those conclusions you know what i mean right because a lot of people are uh what's that word?

Ego?

Egotistic.

And like, you know, they're, what's that word?

Stubborn.

Stubborn and hypocritical.

Right.

A lot of hypocrisy.

It's hard to take accountability sometimes.

Accountability is the first thing to like realize and everything.

I take accountability every day.

I know when something's my fault.

You know, I'm not even, I used to be a very big manipulator.

I know when something's my fault.

And I could nine times out of ten just like admit it.

Oh, yeah, that was my fault.

My bad.

Are you religious at all?

religious uh

yeah uh well see a lot of people don't know this i grew up in a jehovah witness household no way swear to god your mother no my father so my father's mom my grandmother my father's mom

well my father's mom and dad my grandfather passed away rip

um there's jehovah witnesses full-fledged jehovah witnesses baptized and all that

So that obviously, when my dad got out of, when my dad got out of prison, my dad obviously was very,

you know, like, turned a new leaf.

So part of his shit was like, oh, like, I believe in God now.

Like, you know, I'm a Jehovah's Witness.

My dad, yeah, my dad was serious on us, me and my brother.

Like, I never told nobody back in school because that shit was embarrassing, low-key.

Like, not embarrassing, but like, you know, like, I don't know, like.

Jehovah's Witnesses, people, you know, people have a lot of negative things to say.

But like, I grew up, I really grew up in that shit.

Like, I'm talking about like every Sunday, go to the congregation.

Every Saturday, go preaching, knocking on people's doors.

You were doing it.

A young skinny front of nine was knocking on people's doors, bro.

I swear to God, bro.

And I'll always be like, fuck.

Like, I hope nobody from like school sees me.

Like, that shit go be hella awkward, yo.

And

I never really, I never got baptized, though.

So, like, I never like really like

just living when you're under 18 and you live with your parents, you got to do everything they tell you to do.

That was like every Saturday, every Sunday.

So, obviously, me going to like the congregation and stuff, I'm pretty smart.

So, like, you know, I've, I listened.

I had no choice.

I'm going to, I have to come here.

So I listened and I've, you know, I've had Bible studies too, like as a like 13, 14, 15, having Bible studies.

So like I remember everything they taught us.

And like when I really break it down, we're like, now I'm older and I can really make my own decisions in life.

When I compare what Jehovah's Witnesses taught me versus like other religions.

In my heart, I feel like Jehovah's Witnesses, like that is the truth.

Wow.

Like I feel like that, I feel like like there is a God.

You know what I'm saying?

Like, his name's Jehovah.

And, you know, judgment day is going to come one day.

And, like, you know, he's going to kill all the evil.

And, you know, the good people are going to be resurrected and shit like that.

Like, I do believe in all of that.

Damn, that's nuts.

Right.

What about you?

I don't know too much about Jehovah.

I grew up a little Christian.

Yeah.

Stopped going to church because.

Dude, I have ADHD.

Like, I'm jumping off the wall.

Like, I don't want to be sitting in church.

But I believe in God or something, dude.

There has to be, right?

Like, I believe in karma.

Right.

Like, I think you put out good energy, you get it back.

Right.

Part of being Jehovah's Witnesses, we never celebrated birthdays or holidays.

Yeah.

That's crazy.

Yeah.

So my fiancé, I'm getting married in three months and her cousin is a Jehovah.

So yeah, I was learning about that.

This is why I believe this shit, though, because when you really break it down to like history, right?

Like when you break it down some of where some of these holidays came from, like they come from like, bad shit.

Really?

Like, if you go down to like whatever like the first birthday was, first birthday, like, in history was like from a king, right?

Some king.

Um, he had multiple wives, but it says in the Bible that you should only have one wife.

So that's weird, right?

Multiple wives.

Um, and like he would like celebrate by like killing people and shit like that.

Like he would kill like the uh something like that, like kill like,

you know, like kill somebody, like chop their heads off and shit like that.

Like weird shit like that.

And like that was the first birthday.

So like, why are we celebrating birthdays?

You know what I'm saying?

But some of the stuff i don't agree with because like i'm gonna celebrate my birthday because like obviously like i don't just because he did that on his birthday don't mean you know what i'm saying i'm celebrating my birthday so wow so most jehovahs don't celebrate their birthday none of them do holy crap no holidays no christmas no birthdays no like valentine's day thanksgiving no thanksgiving

they celebrate one thing and it's uh

when uh

When Jesus got resurrected.

What day is that?

I forgot.

It's like in March, I think.

Okay.

It's like in March.

And it's like, yeah, they resurrect.

They, they, they celebrate his resurrection.

Damn.

So that's how you grew up?

Yeah.

Holy shit.

And you would have never known because I'm trying to be a rapper.

Yeah.

So I'm, my, my, my mind is polluted already.

Wow.

So do you feel like you were living two lives?

Like, I want, well, no, because like once I got old, I mean, what am I really doing when I'm like 14, 13, 15?

It wasn't until like maybe like 17 or 18, I kind of like made my own decisions.

I stopped going.

So like, but I didn't keep going because then I felt like I am going to be living a double life and I'm more conscious of what I'm doing.

So me being more conscious of what I'm doing, I feel like that's disrespectful to God.

I feel like God would be more understanding slash forgiving if I wasn't living a double life.

Because then that's just a slap in your face.

Yeah.

Right.

So that's how I always broke it down in my brain.

That's nuts.

I didn't know you had this side to you.

Holy shit.

Yeah, you, you, yeah, if you really, that's why girls like me because when they get next to me,

you actually have substance to you.

Substance.

Let's be honest.

A lot of like rappers, I'm not trying to generalize, but the conversation level isn't the highest.

Right.

You know, right, right.

No, I know.

I know.

Trust me.

Yeah.

I did want to talk about PNB rock because you guys did some big stuff together, right?

And you probably learned a lot from him.

Yeah, man.

R.I.P.

P.N.B.

Rock, man.

That was my boy.

You know,

he wasn't like a lot of other people that I met.

You know, our relationship wasn't the best of terms before he passed away.

But, like, we did still talk a little bit here and there.

PNB showed me a lot of love, man.

Like, I feel like PNB never got the credit he deserved, right?

Like, I feel like he was very talented.

Um, that's all I listened to growing up.

Like, I listened to Fetty Wap, PNB Rock, and A Boogie.

Like, those are the three rappers I listened to, like, my whole entire high school and like even after high school.

So, I just feel like PNB never got the respect he deserved.

And, you know, he introduced me to a lot of people.

He was never like weird when it came to like clout and like fame and shit like that.

that like he he he posted me millions of times um did the song with me came to the video always invited me out like yo i'm performing over here like come out i'll bring you out as a special guest you know answer every time i called him um we had some good like heart-to-heart conversations um that was my boy man and uh that was fucked up what they did man like

That shit I cried when PNB Rock died because like even though we weren't as close anymore I just feel like that was my boy man and like I just wanted to to see the best for him.

Yeah.

That one must have fucked you up, man.

Yeah, that was one of my idols, man.

That one was so unexpected, too.

Yeah, that's crazy, man.

Like, you gotta, and it's sad that, like, that even, like, that just shows you, bro, like, somebody who was, like, loved could still be a target of, like, being robbed and, like, shit like that.

You know what I'm saying?

Cause like people will say, like, oh, well, people hate you.

That's why, like, things happen to you.

But like, nah, it's not even that.

It's just people are always looking for an easy way out.

You know, they see you flashing with lots of jury and shit like that.

They want to get a come up, you know, and like maybe get a few

$20,000, $30,000.

And, you know,

that's a lot of money for them.

So people are willing to risk it all, no matter who you are.

You know what I'm saying?

There's a lot of rappers that were loved.

They got killed, man.

Like Pop Smoke, XXX, PNB, Nipsey.

Nipsey.

Like these people were loved by their communities.

you know and they still were a victim of of trying to get robbed you know

so it's crazy man.

Like, it's sad.

R.I.P., all of them.

Dude, almost hopped to you, too.

Yeah, literally.

LA, you got to move smart, though, these days.

Hold on.

No, for sure.

LA, it's crazy because, like, when you get robbed, or like, someone, that shit happens like a thief in the night.

You don't know when that shit's about to happen.

It just happens.

So, you got to move sturdy.

Yeah.

Do you feel like you're always like looking over your shoulder?

Nah, not no more.

Like, you know, like I said, man, I think a lot of people have learned to just accept me for me.

And, you know, like,

you know, I move with God, bro.

I move with the grace of God, bro.

Like, I ain't got, I don't be worrying about a lot of shit.

Like, I'll be out here.

You could catch me at a casino by myself gambling.

Like, I'd be by myself most of the time.

Respect.

Yeah.

They got a free Fetty Watt, man.

Yeah.

Yo, free Fetty, bro.

I feel like that's another thing.

Like,

man, Fetty Watt, bro.

He was a big inspiration.

I told you earlier, that was a big inspiration to my whole entire career, man.

Like, you know, we, that's another thing.

Like, our relationship kind of fell apart.

But, like,

I feel like if we ever get to have a conversation, I feel like I could fix our relationship.

And, you know, I feel like they need to free him ASAP.

You know, he should have got that Trump pardon.

You know,

Trump pardoned a bunch of people.

Like, why not pardon WAP?

Like, what WAP is in there for is not even violent.

It's non-violent.

It's drugs, bro.

Like, non-violent.

He's freed violent offenders.

Why don't you free a non-violent offender?

Right?

And, like, he makes good music and shit like that.

Why not, man?

Free Fetty, the king of Jersey.

That's really the king of Jersey.

I still bump him once in a while.

I bump him all the time to this day.

Yeah, shout out to Fetty.

Yep.

So, when you say you're not on the best terms, Fetty brought me like that.

Was my first tour.

Oh, yeah.

When I was blowing up and Love Blast was blowing up, Fetty used to say, Come on tour with me.

I performed like at all the East Coast dates because I was still in negotiations with labels.

So I was still like, and the label even like, wow, like, you're already on a tour?

Like, yeah, like, I'm on tour with Fetty Wat.

So, you know, he, he, he added to my value like uh like about to like get signed and like that yeah even just knowing him when i would go to the labels like yeah like i know fetty wap and like that was big because like someone like me like damn how do you know like a big like rapper already so yeah shout out to him yeah what was causing you to have like a fallout with these artists was it the same problem no i feel like it was more like just what they were seeing on the internet about me bro like a lot of just got blown out of proportion bro and then like me just like my reaction to everything kind of just made it worse like i feel like people were like, I should have acted more mature to some of the shit that was like happening at the time.

And I acted very immature.

So I kind of made myself look like a fool.

So for like people on the outside looking in, they don't know what the fuck's going on.

They just know like, oh, yo, this kid's acting a little fucking too wild for me.

Yeah.

You know, and like time passes on, then you don't talk to nobody for like a while.

And then, you know, relationships kind of fade.

But like, I know everybody that Fetty's cool with, you know, like, I know everybody.

So I still talk to everybody that Fetty knows, I have a relationship with.

I just don't have a relationship with you.

So I feel like maybe when he comes home, like we'll be able to fix that shit, ASAP.

I want to represent Jersey, bro.

I want us all united.

Yeah.

I always

be the best nigga.

I'm not saying, bro, but like, I just feel like with Jersey is so different from most states, bro, because everybody has that.

I feel like in Jersey, just everybody has that mentality where like they want to be that guy.

We're not united.

They want to be that guy.

There's so many cities and counties.

Versus like other states where like, nigga, we about to all be rich.

Yeah.

You you know, no, 100% Jersey's very divided.

Even within your own town, there's division.

Yeah, for sure.

I still hear of new towns in Jersey all the time when people come up to me and I'm like, I'm from this town in Jersey.

I'm like, where the fuck is I?

Right.

You know, I've heard about some new towns lately, too.

I'm like, damn, just when I thought I knew all about New Jersey, I don't.

Because I never went to South Jersey, really.

Right.

No, I used to chill over there.

Yeah.

I used to chill, but like, yeah, like Freehold and like

fucking like Toms River and like where else like Brick and shit like that.

Yeah, I've been to those places.

What's your go-to town in Jersey?

I kind of like going up north now.

Yeah, I like to be in Edgewater, Hoboken.

Hoboken's nice.

Jersey City.

Jersey City.

You know, sometimes when I go back home, I'm going to Jersey in August.

You know, I like to be in Somerville, local.

You know, I go to the local bars and shit like that.

You got good food there, bro.

Yeah, Somerville has good food.

I'd be eating at that main street all the time when I'm back.

When are you going back?

August.

Oh, yeah.

So we might see each other.

We might see each other.

Yeah.

August 14th.

Oh, yeah.

I'll be there August 5th.

But I'm going to be there still still on the 14th.

I'll hit you up.

I'll hit you up.

We might have to go to Somerville together.

Yeah.

Rebbing this on the whole time.

Let's do it.

Well, dude, it's been awesome.

What are you working on next?

Where can people keep up with you and everything?

You know, just on Instagram at underscore underscore skinny from the nine underscore.

And, you know, I've just been dropping music, you know, just doing YouTube, shit like that.

And yeah, just being myself.

Check the Milky Ways.

He's a change man.

Let's get it.

Let's do it.

Peace.