Skinnyfromthe9: From Getting Shot to Signing with LA Reid: The Skinnyfromthe9 Story | DSH #1493

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Speaker 1 Visit PrizePicks.com for restrictions and details. And like, at the time, I'm not knowing I'm shot.
I just know I'm trying to get up and I can't.

Speaker 1 Like, and it's crazy, bro, because like I used to think, like, you see people like in wheelchairs and shit like that, like, like why can't you just walk you just get up and walk you really can't yeah like once you hurt a bone or like something like that like no matter how hard you're trying to like get up you just can't

Speaker 1 all right guys skinny from the nine here someone we uh we grew up real really close with each other so It's crazy to see like this full circle moment, right? Yeah, it's crazy. Bridgewater, Somerville.

Speaker 1 Nuts.

Speaker 1 a lot of people can't relate to that i know it's crazy even when i was coming over here telling everybody like yo we actually like basically went to high school together yeah we got made fun of growing up

Speaker 1 well you know back then i feel like you know um

Speaker 1 today in today's age i feel like everybody's trying to do a social media thing you know like everybody's trying to be a podcaster or a rapper or go viral on tick tock and shit like that but like back then

Speaker 1 Like coming from where from like there's those little towns like that shit was like frowned upon like like go to college get a degree like stay in school, get a job.

Speaker 1 You were like a loser if you went to a community college back then. Right.

Speaker 1 Or if you just did anything in the performing arts, like just trying to rap or make music or anything, anything out of the box is just like,

Speaker 1 you know? I want to give you your flowers, though, because you were the first to come out and make it in the social media space from basically Somerset County. I appreciate that.

Speaker 1 I feel like some people, like, I don't know, forget that, because, you know,

Speaker 1 just the internet and shit, but like, I appreciate you even, you know, just giving my flowers and just, you know, acknowledging that. No, 100%.
I mean, I didn't even know that was possible.

Speaker 1 You know what I mean? You were the first to come out. I made a lot of people a believer.
Like, I feel like just back home, like,

Speaker 1 I just made people like, yo, this shit is reality. Like, look at him.
Like, look at Skinny. Like, this shit could work.
Yeah, dude. I honestly had no idea that was possible.

Speaker 1 I was going the college route and I was depressed as fuck. And I'm so glad I do this now, honestly.
Yeah, you were selling the jerseys. Yeah, I was doing jerseys.
Did you still do that?

Speaker 1 No, that kind of died out. I mean, that blew up, though.
It blew up. Our top year was like, what was like the first?

Speaker 1 Dude, honestly i think pnb rock was like one of the first even before me because i remember you said pull up to my house yeah it was around the same time you pulled up yeah pulled up you pulled up to my mom's my mom's house yeah yeah yeah back then i was getting like 50 000 likes like 200 000 story views bro you were popping yeah it was nuts posted that and i i felt like that just went crazy after that no i appreciate you doing that because i was just starting out at the time and you actually supported me yeah i was always down to help people from like just back home like anything you know anything i just always wanted people to succeed, you know?

Speaker 1 Yeah. And I feel like just coming where we're from, like, it's not like Miami, like California, like

Speaker 1 it's central Jersey.

Speaker 1 Like, nobody's doing nothing. Like, you know, it's very like just, what's that word? It's not city-like, it's, it's, um, what's the opposite of city? Suburb.
Suburb. It was suburby.

Speaker 1 So nobody's really doing nothing. Everybody's just, everyone has their life planned out.
100%. Well, what do you think gave you that creative spark when you were living out there?

Speaker 1 I just, for the people, like a lot of people don't know, like my childhood wasn't the best. You know, I didn't move to Somerville until I was probably like 13.

Speaker 1 And like, I feel like some people forget that. People think that I grew up in Somerville my whole entire life because I just never really like talked about my past life.

Speaker 1 But, you know, I had a mom with seven, my mom, single mom, seven kids.

Speaker 1 You know, my dad went to prison. My stepdad went to prison.

Speaker 1 You know, just a single mom, we're getting evicted everywhere we go, shit like that. It wasn't until I turned like 13 where my dad got out of prison and my dad was ready to be a father.

Speaker 1 And my dad took me and my brother Josh in. At that point, that's when it was like, I had stability.
And like, just, I always wanted to make music. Like, I just, I just wanted to make music.

Speaker 1 I wanted to tell my story. And like, I just felt like I was destined for something more.
Like, I was destined for greatness. So I just.

Speaker 1 It was just always, it was, it was either that, it was like music or nothing, you know? Yeah. So that, my, my life was my inspiration, you know? Damn, you're right.

Speaker 1 And then, and then, you know, like people like Fetty Watt blowing up, got to give Fetty his flowers for being from Jersey.

Speaker 1 Um, I was like, probably like a senior in high school when he blew up and I was just watching that.

Speaker 1 And like that even made it more like, I'm like, yo, this shit could really happen, you know, like Fetty just blew up, like he's going crazy.

Speaker 1 And it just really made me want to take it even more serious. Like, probably, I started going to Real Studios and started like just working at, I got like three jobs.

Speaker 1 I was working at Wendy's, working at ShopRight, working everywhere, just saving every single paycheck I had to just pay for like fucking studio time, pay for music videos, pay to buy these beats and just shit like that.

Speaker 1 And, you know, it finally like worked out, you know? Yeah. How many years in would you say you got some traction? It wasn't like, I feel like

Speaker 1 like I was, I mean, I was dropping music my whole entire life, you know, like even like just being a freshman, I even middle school, like going to Somerville, middle school, I was was dropping music all the time, but like it wasn't good, but it, I didn't quit.

Speaker 1 I just kept trying to get better at my craft, get better at my craft, get better at my craft.

Speaker 1 And then it finally worked out, you know, and probably like, you know, probably after high school is where you could say, like, I started really taking it serious because like, it was like, that, that, this is like, it's fourth and goal.

Speaker 1 Like, something's got to happen. Like, I'm out of high school.
I'm not trying to be a bum.

Speaker 1 I'm not trying to fucking, you know, so that when like, I probably graduated when, I don't know, we probably graduated the same year. What time?

Speaker 1 what year did you graduate 15 yeah i probably graduated like 2015 and then there was time i didn't blow up till 2018.

Speaker 1 well i blew up the ending of 2017 like around thanksgiving 2017 so what two years 15 16 17.

Speaker 1 yeah uh and then yeah everything just worked out i remember you came to my mom's house after signing that million dollar deal bro crazy yeah million dollar deal with la reed yeah yeah yeah that was that was epic that was epic did you get the money all at once like how did that work so i ended up getting like portions You know, I ended up getting like probably like $500,000 up front when I signed.

Speaker 1 I think I got like another like $250,000 after we had dropped the first single. And then I think another $250,000 when I dropped my first project.
Damn. That's nuts.

Speaker 1 Was that single Love Blast or was that? The single? No. See, I kind of regret signing to LA Reed because I just feel like they had no structure, you know?

Speaker 1 And like, I kind of got fucked over when I signed my deal because like at the time, like, I never really spoke about this.

Speaker 1 Um, when Love Blast dropped and, like, it was going super, super viral, like, it was like number 10 on like the SoundCloud charts of like new and upcoming artists.

Speaker 1 That's what really put me on like the spotlight for like labels. Cause that's what they check, you know, like, is your music trending without without a label?

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Speaker 1 So, when that happened, everybody hit me up. So, labels and like managers and shit like that.
And like long story short, I ended up signing like a, like a little like management deal to like this guy.

Speaker 1 His name's Jay Mogul.

Speaker 1 And it kind of like, I didn't, I lost my

Speaker 1 exclusive right to pick who I wanted to be signed to. Damn.
So as I'm take, but at the time, I didn't know that. So at the time, like Interscope is hitting me up.

Speaker 1 Like John Janick, Joey IE, 300, Todd Moskowitz,

Speaker 1 I said Interscope, Atlantic. So many people hitting me up.
And I'm taking all these meetings and shit like that.

Speaker 1 They're flying me and my family out first class, putting us like in crazy hotels, like paying for all of our food and shit like that.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 I ended up getting a meeting with LA Reed.

Speaker 1 He's like, yo, I'll give you a million dollars if you sign to me. And like, I took the meeting and, you know, we, we, we, uh, we negotiated while we were there.

Speaker 1 And like, at the end of the meeting, I was just like, I'll let you know what I want to do. So like, as we're leaving the meeting and shit like that, I'm talking to the manager, Jay Mogul.

Speaker 1 And he's like, Yo, we're going to go with LA Reed.

Speaker 1 And at the time, I wanted to go with Atlantic because I just felt like they had a better structure at the time. And, like, you know, they were popping.

Speaker 1 You know, they kind of had the formula back then. It was like, get a lyrical lemonade video, like do a no jumper interview.
And then, like, we put you on tour with like a big artist.

Speaker 1 And then from then on, like, you're kind of set. It's kind of like, it's kind of autopilot after that.
So,

Speaker 1 I didn't get, I didn't, I lost my exclusive. So I'm telling him like, yo, I don't want to, I don't want to go with LA Reed.
I kind of want to go with Atlantic.

Speaker 1 Long story short, we kind of like, you know, bickered back and forth. And he was just like, yo, like, you lost your exclusive right to even pick who you want to be signed to, to be honest.

Speaker 1 But like, so it's not really even a discussion, you know, like we're going with LA Reid. And he wanted to go with LA Reed because he was getting 15%.

Speaker 1 out of whatever deal I was going to take.

Speaker 1 So I forgot how much Atlantic was offering me. Maybe they were offering me like 300K.
So it was 15% out of 300K versus 15% out of a million. So he had his best interest.

Speaker 1 He didn't have my best interest because anybody would have known that Atlantic was definitely like the route to go. Damn.

Speaker 1 So you think you would have had a totally different career if you signed with Atlantic? Absolutely. I would have got the lyrical lemonade video.

Speaker 1 I would have got, I mean, I did the no jumper interview, but like I said, just a few of those. Yeah, I would have got just better.

Speaker 1 just better like um i don't know like opportunities you know yeah so Damn, that's nuts. Yeah, I hear a lot of horror stories in the music industry with people signing their own deal.

Speaker 1 I'm one of the ones that got into some shit like that. Were you able to get out of that? Yeah, I ended up getting out of it, but it wasn't for like years, you know? Like, it was like a lot of work.

Speaker 1 And then, like, by the time, like, I wasn't dropping, I wasn't allowed to drop music for a long time. So, you know, my music kind of like faded away.
Fans forgot about me. People forgot about me.

Speaker 1 That's just, that's just what it is, you know? People forget quick in the music industry, right? Exactly, because there's always somebody new blowing up.

Speaker 1 So, you know, you're always going if you're not constantly dropping, and I want to drop, I wanted to drop music. I just wasn't able to, because now I'm going through legalities and shit like that.

Speaker 1 So shit kind of just like fucked me over, low-key. Damn.
Is that why you moved out here to Vegas? Moved out to Vegas because, you know, it's just better.

Speaker 1 One, it's cheap as fuck out here. I don't give a fuck what nobody says.
Like, it's cheap as fuck out here versus being in New Jersey or like the East Coast. They're just expensive as fuck.

Speaker 1 You know, like you get a nice like two bedroom, one bedroom out here for like half the price that you would get it in New Jersey. No state tax, too.
Right. You know, just got to control that gambling.

Speaker 1 It's cheap to live out here, but then when you start gambling, that shit becomes, you don't know what the fuck is going on at that time. You're a big gambler? Low-key.

Speaker 1 I picked up a big gambling like fucking habit living here. Damn.
What's your game, Blackjack? Dude, I fucking play everything. I play free bet, blackjack,

Speaker 1 craps. baccarat but like my go-to is like

Speaker 1 baccarat and craps

Speaker 1 and let's talk about running into a certain individual at one of these casinos okay what you want to do it that video went viral dude i didn't even know you lived here when that video came out right see i feel like that was like a big like misunderstanding because like my boy jr that's like my manager yeah jr the mechanic um

Speaker 1 we uh we we gamble a lot he gambles too so like we're at red rock one day we're just chilling and shit gambling and shit and um him and his wife they make uh rugs, right? They make like personal rugs.

Speaker 1 Like they made one of me and PMB Rock.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 he saw, I didn't see him. He saw Steve Will do it.
So he got up and went to go try to talk to him and basically was trying to like promote his business.

Speaker 1 But after he was going to promote his business, he was going to be like, yo, like, I'm with Skinny. Like, let's do something.
Like, we should do some content, whatever it is.

Speaker 1 But, like, he didn't even get the chance to even present himself.

Speaker 1 I guess from what, from what my understanding, that, you know, he was gambling a lot and he was losing like a lot of money at that time.

Speaker 1 But like, that's the, he kind of like told, not in those words, but like the way like JR told me, JR was kind of like, he kind of basically told him to fuck off.

Speaker 1 Like not saying fuck off, but like just that attitude. And,

Speaker 1 you know, or maybe, and my boy JR got money. Like JR has money.
So it's not even like we're like, oh, you're just broke as fuck. Like you're looking for a handout.

Speaker 1 Like, that's kind of how my boy JR took it. So, but like I said, I wasn't even there for that first interaction.

Speaker 1 So then JR comes back to the table, like, yo, that fucking guy, Steve Will do, it's a fucking jerk. I was like, damn, like, shit, I don't know.
You feel me?

Speaker 1 He's like, and he was like, yo, I'm about to, I'm about to go tell him about himself. Like, I'm about to tell him, like, you're a fucking jerk.

Speaker 1 So we get up, we start walking and shit. And, you know, at first, JR, I don't know if you saw the video.
At first, JR is being respectful.

Speaker 1 Like, it's the security of the casino, the security of the casino, and like whoever Steve would do it, they actually made the situation worse.

Speaker 1 Cause like JR is being, I don't know if you watch the video, JR is being really respectful, but the security is like pushing, pushing him back.

Speaker 1 So like now you're making something that was very calm and very like passive, like you're actually making him get aggressive because like you're pushing somebody back who's just trying to speak.

Speaker 1 So now then JR gets heated, JR takes his shirt off, then JR, like, then Steve tried to like, Steve basically, now Steve's being disrespectful to JR. So now they start clashing.

Speaker 1 Mind you, if you watch the video, I'm literally just standing there. I'm just standing there.
I'm just watching this happen.

Speaker 1 So, but JR not being famous, JR not having like no Instagram following, like you wouldn't know who JR was. So like he obviously, when they were arguing, he saw my face.
He knows me.

Speaker 1 So he immediately just DN'd me and just started talking hella shit. And like, he didn't really even give me the chance to explain myself he kind of was just like you and like me what did i do

Speaker 1 i didn't do nothing i'm just here right yeah so i just felt like that was kind of up but you know if it was up to me we could like redo that whole situation again and like just talk it out and like like bro like if you felt offended about my boy like my boy i hope you guys are enjoying the show please don't forget to like and subscribe it helps the show a lot with the algorithm thank you

Speaker 1 apologize and like if you felt offended by anything i do my bad you know we're men that don't really like if you're watching this steve my bad bro you know that was everywhere right every outlier john out of proportion yeah you know crazy completely out of banned from the casino nah yo i didn't even get banned right away if i got banned like six months later really and i wasn't even i didn't even get banned at red rock uh you know uh red rock is a uh station casino yeah so i do I do a lot of my gambling at station casinos.

Speaker 1 So I'm at Santa Fe. I don't know if you know where that's at.
Santa Fe? It's a local casino. No, no, it's a a local casino.
So, but it belongs to Red Rock. Okay.

Speaker 1 So, and it's like close to where I live. So I'm over here at Santa Fe.
I hit a 9-7,

Speaker 1 like had 20, three-card 9-7 at $25 on there.

Speaker 1 That shit paid me like almost like $5,000.

Speaker 1 As soon as I hit it, security, everybody comes over. Like, you know, you're banned, right? I'm playing dumb.
I'm like, because I know that. Santa Fe is a station casino.

Speaker 1 So I'm like, nah, I don't, I'm not banned because they got to formally banned you.

Speaker 1 So they were like, nah, I'm like, nah. They're like, yeah, you had like a situation at Red Rock.
I was like,

Speaker 1 I still got my money, though. But then I was like, you can't come back here.
And I was mad as hell because I like going to that casino. So.
Yeah, station's got a lot of good casinos.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they got Durango. Durango, Green Valley, Santa Fe, Green Valley, Sound Rock, and they're building a new one.
Right. I had to like go bring my fucking gambling somewhere else.

Speaker 1 So just because you're loyal to your boy, you get banned from right. But it wasn't even like that.
Like my boy didn't even do anything.

Speaker 1 I mean, he took his shirt off and caused a scene but but it's because security is being aggressive right as somebody who's just talking to you normal they were probably trying to protect steve because he's a big customer for them you know what i mean yeah but you got to treat everybody with respect and fairness you know yeah like you don't you can't just judge a book by its cover like i understand steve's rich as fuck so like they're probably trying to keep people who like

Speaker 1 broke you know like but like JR has money. Like he has money.
So you don't even know what you're talking about. Yeah.
You know?

Speaker 1 that's nuts dude have you uh made up with adam you guys cool now me and adam became cool like fucking like four years ago oh yeah me and adam's been cool bro like adam adam me and adam we got like a love hate relationship you know ever since like i feel like i've been cool with a kenyela yeah you know him and kenyela got like some type of beef i feel like uh

Speaker 1 He like tries to throw shade sometimes, but like we talk all the time, you know, it's like fucking content, you know Fuck that shit I don't I don't be taking none of this shit to heart Like, I took my heart out of this shit.

Speaker 1 Like, I already know, like, this shit just be all fun and games, bro. I don't take none of this shit serious.
Yeah, there's a lot of beef on the internet. That's just content.

Speaker 1 And people see each other, then it's a, it's a video. Yeah.
It's a video. Like, it's fucking hilarious.
Yeah. I like being myself, though.
I try not to, like, fake shit. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Um, I feel like you don't really show your face too much, you know, like you're, like, more of like focusing on the guest, yeah.

Speaker 1 Well, I have an 80-20 rule, you know. What's that? I try to give the guests 80% of the talking time.
Okay, yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 that's like what you do in podcasting that's what you have to do because sometimes the host talks too much if you talk too much you're gonna forget the host uh the guest is gonna forget what forget what he was gonna say and then you miss out on a good story 100 slash content yeah so you're at peace with all your previous beef sell like you've forgiven everyone yeah man you don't care like yeah like even like back home like just local bro like i don't know if you know him um you know djt yeah terrence was that the fire incident i won't we're not even gonna speak about that but um it's more like we had like our own little little situation.

Speaker 1 Like, I recently just seen him. Like, we were hella, we were good friends before this shit.
Yeah. Like, before like the fame and clout.

Speaker 1 But, like, when the when, when that shit popped off, you know, we had like a little beef, but that's really my boy, man. And, like, he be doing his thing too with the DJ shit.
You know?

Speaker 1 I've heard his name a few times. Yeah, he's doing his thing with the DJ shit, bro.

Speaker 1 You know, a few other people back home. My boy Chimma, aka, I don't know if you know him, Damson.
Damson, he, he was a rapper, but like, he switched to a star. But, like, Damson Jenkins going crazy.

Speaker 1 Like, like he just did a scene with blacked you know what blacked is no what is up it's like a big like company yeah like and he's from he's from he's from like the town damn so anybody whatever it is whether it's like rap music djing clothing anybody who like just like got to get to like that main take it a step further like get mainstream you know you got to give them their flowers you know so shout out shout out to those guys and you still talk to uh trayway right yeah i still talk to shoddy free shoddy um he calls me all the time we chop it it up and shit like that.

Speaker 1 He should be coming home soon one day. Oh, really? I thought he got long.
Yeah, I'm, you know, when people are locked up, they always say they're coming home soon. You know, you got to be positive.

Speaker 1 Right. Even if you got 20 years from now, you're coming home soon.
Because you're coming home one day. If you don't got life, you're coming home one day.

Speaker 1 So there's something to look forward to. Yeah.
I remember when they sent us him, I was like, holy shit. Yeah.
Like, I didn't expect it to be that. Man, that shit.
Free shotty, man.

Speaker 1 He's a good guy, bro.

Speaker 1 That whole shit with 6ix9ine and all that shit, I feel like 6ix9ine was capping a little bit did you get i know some people some people definitely did take advantage of him for sure you know but like when you really break it down to like who took advantage of you like shotty i feel like i've seen shoddy with my own eyes like ready to risk it all for 6ix9ine you know like ready to like and he has kids and shit like that ready to risk everything just to see 6ix9ine succeed so like On that aspect of shit, man, like, I feel like that was fucked up.

Speaker 1 I wonder what 6ix9ine is doing these days. Yeah, who knows, bro? I haven't seen much about him lately.
Right. Maybe, you know, I saw he was doing like some Spanish music.

Speaker 1 He used to be everywhere, though, dude. That peak was like Andrew.
That was a crazy. Bro, that was like Andrew Tate level.
Yeah, like that was, yeah, that was crazy, bro.

Speaker 1 Like, 2018 was a year to be alive. I don't know if another artist will ever be able to get that

Speaker 1 quickly. Nah, 6ix9ine did his thing, bro.
Like, I don't care what people say. He did his thing.
You rode that wave, too. Good timing for you, right? Right.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you know, well, I was supposed to get get a song with 6ix9ine. Like, when I did get signed to LA Reed, this is how I even know Shodi.

Speaker 1 So I was supposed to get a song, like, when I got signed, and this is before, like, 6ix9ine, like, people hated him.

Speaker 1 People forget at one point, he was loved.

Speaker 1 So, um, I had just signed my deal. LA Reed was like, yo, who you want to do a song with? You know, me and my brother, we decided that 6ix9ine would be a good look.

Speaker 1 So, we wanted to do the song with 6ix9ine. So, you know, my label inquired with his label.
and um i think uh

Speaker 1 shoddy ended up like being on that call and like shot it came to shoddy's ear and uh we were gonna do the song and then la reed like changed his mind like last minute so it never happened but then uh i probably ended up seeing shoddy like probably like a month later at uh

Speaker 1 at a mall in jersey i forgot what the mall was he was shopping and uh you know he was like yo skinny and i was like yo blah blah blah what happened with that song i thought we paid the zoo a song and shit like that and i was like yeah my label i don't know they changed their mind but he was like yo come i'm gonna just introduce you to six line like come with me tonight and uh yeah we were just rocking out since then damn that's crazy so your label was really getting in your way man low-key bro like even love blast bro like love blast was going stupid yeah that song pop like that was the song like now that it's going stupid we supposed to get a remix you know we supposed to like like do so much with that song they completely scrapped it and then wanted to work on a whole new song and like the song did numbers like back when i was broke that That was a good one, too.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but like, feel like we were supposed to fucking put the gas behind Love Blast and then follow up with Back When I Was Broke.

Speaker 1 But they completely scrapped Love Blast and just went Back When I Was Broke. And I just felt like that was stupid.
Damn. I wonder what their thought process was in all this.

Speaker 1 Because obviously they want to take it. From what I've heard, from what I've heard, people like labels, they want to take credit for everything.

Speaker 1 So anything they did before you, I mean, anything you did before them, their hands weren't in on it. So it's like they don't really want to be associated with it.

Speaker 1 They rather like, now let's do something where we could take credit for. Like we gave you this beat.
We helped you make the lyrics. We did this.
We did that, you know? Yeah.

Speaker 1 So what's your strategy now? Cause the game's changed a lot, right? Like it's different landscape. Really, bro.
I've just been, I'm still just doing music. I got this one song I'm about to drop.

Speaker 1 It's called See You.

Speaker 1 It's going, it's pretty, it's getting a lot of good feedback on Instagram.

Speaker 1 I'm just making music, bro, and like, you know, just reaching out to artists, new and old, and, you know, just getting back to what people like loved about me, you know?

Speaker 1 and um i'm smarter a lot wiser now you know i got a lot of connections so i just be reaching out and shit like that and uh yeah we we we figuring it out you seem way more level-headed now man i know you were in a lot of drama like when we were growing up yeah man like i just feel like dude i just i feel like if i would have blown up anywhere else like a lot of people wouldn't have gotten mad but because we were such from a town where there's no success when it comes to as far as like performing arts you know yeah uh people just get mad that they it wasn't them or they can't grasp the uh they can't fathom like how did he do it and not me i'm sure that happens to you it did like how did he like sell these jerseys and like i didn't think of that or like you know and it's like you just didn't have the grind bro like you didn't have the grind you didn't have the patience You just should never give up on nothing you do because you don't know how close you are to reaching where you're supposed to get to.

Speaker 1 Bro, my friend showed me a group chat. There's like a group chat of all like 100 guys from my school.
They were were saying like, I can't wait till Sean fails.

Speaker 1 Like, I've, and it's crazy, bro. Like, I've never been like that, bro.

Speaker 1 Like, even like growing up, like just in high school, everybody, there was a few other people that made music, like in Bridgewater and in Somerville. Like, and, you know, I wasn't the favorite.

Speaker 1 You know, my music wasn't that good. There were some, there were people that were better than me, people that I thought like, oh, yeah, that guy's going to go somewhere.

Speaker 1 I was never the type like, fuck him, fuck him. I hate him.
Like, I was always like, I never, I could honestly say in my soul, bro, I never hated on the next man. Wow.

Speaker 1 I never, never, no jealousy, never, no shade, nothing, bro. So when people did it to me, it was, I was just like, wow, like, I'm God's chosen one, bro.

Speaker 1 Cause like, when you break it down, bro, like, they hated Jesus. Yeah.
You know, they stoned Jesus to death. So like, I just always, I'm the chosen one, bro.
Like, I'm the chosen one.

Speaker 1 Did you feel like you had a chip on your shoulder from all the hate? I did, bro. And like, what I realize now is like, I was supposed to lead by example.
So just because, just because,

Speaker 1 like I like to break it down like this, like when somebody's fake to you,

Speaker 1 you shouldn't be fake back because then you're no better than that person.

Speaker 1 You're fake too. You know?

Speaker 1 So I didn't have that mentality back then.

Speaker 1 So whenever when somebody would say something negative about me or like I remember like, oh, you didn't support me or you didn't do this or you didn't do this or you laughed at me, I was the first to try to go do it back to them.

Speaker 1 And like, that's not it because then I'm just no better than you. I'm the same person you are.
And I'm life is all about leading by example. You know, you got to lead by example.

Speaker 1 So even if it's going to, you got to suck your pride in sometimes and you have to, you have to lead by example.

Speaker 1 You have to be like, just because you said, fuck me, don't mean I'm going to say fuck you. Like, you know, I'm going to show you the real way is done.

Speaker 1 I'm going to show you how to do this the right way. Right.
And like, I should have had that mentality back then, but I'm older now, you know. When you're younger and you, it's hard, bro.
It's hard.

Speaker 1 You're older. You had a couple of near-death experiences, too.
Yeah. That probably changed your perspective, right? Dude, I still remember that shooting.
Yeah. You were like on live, right? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Crazy.

Speaker 1 That's funny because I get a lot of flack for that. But, like, bro, how many of us have been shot? Right.

Speaker 1 And then, like, if you have been shot, like, I don't want nobody to wonder what happened to me. Yeah.
You know, like,

Speaker 1 let's say I died. And, like, let's say I did die when that happened.
And

Speaker 1 like, my family and my friends were like, like, what happened? Like, I don't want no confusion. Like, I got shot.
I'm over here and I'm about to die. You feel me?

Speaker 1 Like, and I want, I wanted my everybody, no confusion. And like, you know, people were like, that shit was taken the wrong way.
But like, yeah, bro, I almost got shot. I did get shot.

Speaker 1 I almost died, low-key. That was in Miami, right? Yeah, I was in Miami and brickle, bro.
Like, you got to watch out. I was moving really sloppy, though.

Speaker 1 You know, I always, I always never knew how big I was. You know, like, I always like thought like I,

Speaker 1 like, I could just do normal people shit.

Speaker 1 right so like me being in miami i'm i was moving very sloppy i'm running around with a book bag filled with like a hundred thousand dollars i'm over here walking around with all this jury

Speaker 1 bro i'm over here walking with a book bag with a hundred thousand yeah and i don't want to pay for valet

Speaker 1 i don't want to break none of my

Speaker 1 walking your car i walked to my car instead of just parking in valet jeez 20 bucks 20 bucks i'd have never got shot so i'm walking back to my car i'm with my boys too though I wasn't with like no real security, but I was with my boys who, who, you know, who play like that.

Speaker 1 And, you know, R.I.P., one of them, man, one of them died on some completely shit. Yeah, something completely miscellaneous.
You know, they died. Like, night or different?

Speaker 1 Nah, like, like I said, miscellaneous. Like, he died on the, you know, he was in the streets.
R.I.P. Wolf.

Speaker 1 But, yeah, I'm with my people. I'm like, ain't nobody going to try us.
Like, anybody try us, it's going to be a shootout. Like, somebody's going to die.
Feel me?

Speaker 1 Because I'm with a lot of people who, I was with people who, who, who, you know, play like that. So I wasn't expecting nobody to do something, bro.

Speaker 1 And like, you know, so we not even, we lollygagging walking to the car. Like, I'm not even walking to, I'm not even walking to the car like in a rush.
I'm just like, man, we walk into the car.

Speaker 1 We drinking, you know, we having conversations and shit like that. Like, talking about bitches we want to fuck and shit like that.
So boom, like random car pulls up.

Speaker 1 Nigga, GTA in real life starts happening. Like, bro, like, my boy starts shooting.
He passes me a gun. I start shooting at somebody.

Speaker 1 I'm ducking behind car windows and like that i'm like what the is going on

Speaker 1 you feel me like real life gta you feel me just you're not gonna spawn back if you die so uh and then boom like i just realized i got hit like i'm like i get hit in my leg i fall to the ground and

Speaker 1 i'm like what the bro and like surprisingly bro like i don't know like we were in brickle good area yeah so Probably like within like five minutes of the altercation, we already hear sirens.

Speaker 1 I'm on the floor bleeding out. I already hear hear the sirens.
So that made the people that tried us, they just hopped in their car and leave. Damn.
And like, I'm just on the ground bleeding out.

Speaker 1 Oh, so they didn't even get anything? Nah. Wow.
So I'm on the car. I'm on the ground just bleeding out and fucking like,

Speaker 1 yeah, I don't even know what's going on. I'm like, my boy like said, yo, you want me to wait for you? Like, do I leave? And, you know, he's fucking shooting somebody illegally.

Speaker 1 He fucking just shot at somebody illegally and shit. So nigga, he, I'm like, he, he gets to, I'm like, bro, just leave.
You feel me? So he runs away. He leaves.

Speaker 1 And I'm just on the ground bleeding out. And finally, like, paramedics and police come and shit like that.
And like, at the time, I'm not knowing I'm shot.

Speaker 1 I just know I'm trying to get up and I can't. Like, and it's crazy, bro, because like, I used to think, like, you see people like in wheelchairs and shit like that.
Like,

Speaker 1 like, why can't you just walk? Like, just get up and walk. You really can't.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Like, once you hurt a bone or like something like that, like, no matter how hard you're trying to get up, you just can't. Jeez, you couldn't even walk? No, I couldn't walk.
I broke my femur.

Speaker 1 So I got a metal rod in in my leg. I had to get surgery.
I got like a metal rod. Yeah, I got a meter.
So the bullet went straight through the femur? Yeah. I actually still have the bullet inside me.

Speaker 1 Oh my God. Yeah, because like it would to it would have did more damage trying to take the bullet out than just letting your tissue just grow over it.
That's the police.

Speaker 1 That's what the paramedics said and shit like that. But like, yeah, like, I don't know, there was a joke going around.
Like, I got shot in my ass. Like, bro, bro.

Speaker 1 If I had to get surgery for my femur and my femur broke, how is that even like, how is that even a thing? That's nuts. You know, like, yeah, I got shot in my leg.

Speaker 1 What were you thinking of those moments where you're like, shit, it's just I'm gonna be, this is unfiltered 100%, bro. Like, I remember the paramedics got me.

Speaker 1 I could still speak, you know, like, I'm not dying. Like, I'm like, I'm bleeding out.
You feel me? Like, and people say it's just a leg shot, but you know, the football player, Sean Taylor? Yeah.

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Speaker 1 like a few people died from a leg shot plexical burrs he didn't die but like he suffered like a lot of uh like he got when he brought the gun in the club and shot himself by accident.

Speaker 1 Like, you nigga, that's, that's serious. So what's it called? Um, I just remember, like, I'm not knowing where I'm shot at yet.

Speaker 1 Remember, I just know I'm shot because they're telling me and they don't even know where I'm shot. They just see a bunch of blood on the floor.

Speaker 1 So I'm just like, I remember they finally put me in the stretcher. I'm looking at the

Speaker 1 nurse and the paramedic and the ambulance. I'm just like, yo, like, am I going to be able to have babies? Like, did I get shot like somewhere where I like, did I get shot in my dick?

Speaker 1 That's the first thing I asked. Did I get shot in my dick? He's like, no.
I'm like, so I can still have babies one day, right? He said, yes. All right.
So then break it down to me.

Speaker 1 I got shot in my spine, didn't I? I'm never going to walk again. He's like, no, you'll be able to walk again.
You just got shot in your leg. I was like, thank God.

Speaker 1 I was like, are you sure? Don't, don't lie to me. Just give it to me uncut.
Like, I don't care. I'm strong enough for it.
He said, bro, relax. You just got shot in your leg.

Speaker 1 You're going to need a new femur. And like, you'll be able to walk again.
I was like, okay, good.

Speaker 1 So your first thought was, am I going to have kids? So, you want kids. Or, like, have sex again.
Like, I get shot in my dick. Like, just keep it a buck.
As a guy, that would suck. That's right.

Speaker 1 Right, right, right.

Speaker 1 All I care about is like having sex. That was the peak of your career.
You're probably having a bunch of sex. I wouldn't have sex.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 East Coast girls or West Coast?

Speaker 1 Anybody, bro. East Coast, West Coast, whatever.
As long as you look good. Yeah, you don't care.
Yeah, I'll be trying to hit some of the locals. I like East Coast.

Speaker 1 I'll be like trying to hit some of the girls we went to school with. Yeah.
I got lucky with a few of them. They're more innocent.

Speaker 1 Yeah, when you're exposed to this industry like i don't really like you know what i attract at least you know like i think i'm pretty good looking i attract a lot of girls but like the girls that always go after me are gonna be like strippers right bartenders uh you know like nightlife girls and like i don't like that you know i want like i like regular girls like back in like bridgewater somerville type shit i like no work done No BBL, no, none of that.

Speaker 1 Like, I like normal bitches with like some good ass pussy. Yeah.

Speaker 1 No work for me, too. Fake boobs, turn off.
Right. Right.
I never, even when I had like a hella bread, I still like, I don't know, it's just a turn off. Like, this is fake.
Right. Botox now is hot,

Speaker 1 right? Right.

Speaker 1 Exactly. And you got a Michael Jackson face.
Yeah. You dealt with actually facial paralysis, right? Yeah, I did, bro.
That was awesome. Like, I just, yo, that shit with the facial paralysis.

Speaker 1 So, like, I remember, this is no warning. I remember I woke up one day and, like,

Speaker 1 i forgot what side this happened at but like one of my sides i remember it i just kept like crying all day from that eye not crying but like it was getting watery and it just kept tearing yeah and i'm just like damn bro like my allergies are acting up so i'm just i keep rubbing my eye the whole entire day and like not knowing that like i'm having facial paralysis so i will go all day i'm just rubbing my eye Shit just keeps getting watery.

Speaker 1 Finally, the next day, I go to sleep. Next day, I'm still having the same problem.
I'm like, what the fuck is going on? I finally go to the mirror. I'm like, I'm looking at my eye.
I try to blink.

Speaker 1 I'm like, holy shit. One side didn't blink.
I'm like, wait, what the fuck? I'm blinking again. I'm like, oh, shit.
So I go get my dad and my, my, this girl I was talking to at the moment.

Speaker 1 I'm like, yo, like, look at my face. Like, I can't blink.
And like, then I try to smile. I'm like, oh, shit, I can't even smile from this side either.
So I was like, oh, damn, I was tripping, bro.

Speaker 1 I thought like I was possessed. Like, I thought the fucking omen just like took over my body.
And I thought I'm about to like fucking just like become a fucking demon and just like kill everybody.

Speaker 1 Like I was tripping. Yeah.
So then I'm like, we got to go to the hospital right now. And then like, they just told me like, yeah, like you had Bell's palsy.
They said it happens without warning.

Speaker 1 And like, it just goes away by itself. So I probably had that shit for like a month.
And then one day I just like looked in the mirror and like it went away. Damn, a month though? Yeah.

Speaker 1 That's pretty long.

Speaker 1 that shit was hella weird i was trying to like make music and like i'm trying to like chill with people and i'm just like man i'm over here with like the fucking like fucking joker face like

Speaker 1 hey and you haven't gotten it back since no i haven't surprisingly but like one of my eyes i think one of my eyes suffer from that because now when i meet people they don't tell me immediately but like later on like when we get close not even people girls They'd be like, you know, like you have like a lazy eye?

Speaker 1 I was like, no, I don't. Which one is it? I don't know.
So like, I can't tell. Right.
But like, I guess, like, you you know, girls are different when you're like fucking them and shit like that.

Speaker 1 They pay attention to everything you do. Yeah, that's true.
Yeah. They said, I've been told that a few times.
I have a lazy eye. So I guess that was one of the side effects that happened from that.

Speaker 1 You liking the girls out here in Vegas? Some of them, it's a lot of prostitutes and shit. Like, you know, I'm just from the East Coast.
I'm not used to that.

Speaker 1 But, like, if you are a prostitute, like, I just feel like there's no like future with us unless like, you know, like, you give me your money type shit like a pimp like a pimp yeah because like what do i look like loving on you but like you're going like getting smashed every night and you're coming back with like thousands of dollars so like off rip like i need that you know and then like we could like work on ourselves

Speaker 1 i couldn't date an of girl i don't know well of is different that's like digital pimping you think it's different that's digital pimping you could date an of girl Yeah, if they're making like tens of thousands of dollars, why not?

Speaker 1 I've like removed myself from like a lot of shit. Like, I don't don't know like i'm just holding to it i've just like i don't know i really don't care like

Speaker 1 if i had an of girl when she's getting naked getting naked but also typing to the guys like sending them nudes and shit i'll be the one typing shit what you need

Speaker 1 then it's a business right

Speaker 1 i'll be the type all right what do you want you want like a picture of my tits so now i'm telling her like yo send a picture of your tits But like, does it, you're getting, I feel like, but I've been cheated on before in the past.

Speaker 1 Yeah. And like, it hurts, obviously, like when you really love somebody, but like, why does it hurt? Have you ever asked yourself, why does it hurt? Oh, we're getting deep now.

Speaker 1 How, why does it hurt when somebody cheats on you? Like, physically, you're saying? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Because

Speaker 1 that should only be for you. Right.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 1 me, I thought deeper. I'm like, I've been cheated on before.
And I always ask myself, like, damn, like, this shit fucking, it hurts, you know? But like, why? And then I realized something. I'm like,

Speaker 1 I invested so much into this person. You know, like, I spent a lot of money on them, took them on trips, bought them shit.

Speaker 1 So I invested a lot of stuff into this person.

Speaker 1 And then I realized when the people that I didn't invest in nothing into, and I maybe did like them, and like they probably went to go do their own thing, I never gave a fuck.

Speaker 1 I only gave a fuck about the people that I invested so much into. So like, it all just like, from a business standpoint, it just hurts to see somebody enjoy your hard work.

Speaker 1 Right. Right.

Speaker 1 so like you go somebody else and i'm the one that like you know i gave you your confidence i posted you all over my instagram i gave you hella followers i made you popping you know like so yeah that bothers me so now it just came down to a science where i'm just like

Speaker 1 if i'm not if i like i'm not the type to like just like go super hard for nobody no more like it's just like

Speaker 1 I rather, like I said, you want OnlyFans? All right, we both going to work at this shit. You know what I'm saying? Like, we both, it's going to be a business.

Speaker 1 And I just, I view relationships as businesses now. Damn.
That's an interesting take. Right.

Speaker 1 So I think you've been heartbroken so many times, basically, is what you're saying that you don't want to invest in a girl anymore. Right.
Unless like she's invested in me.

Speaker 1 Now it's an equal investment. You know what I'm saying? Like you damn near got to take me out to dinner first.
If you're on that type of time, you know what I'm saying? But like.

Speaker 1 Usually like, I don't know, like the normal girls and shit like that, like normal girls like from like Bridgewater, Somerville, they don't really like be on shit like that.

Speaker 1 So it's like, I don't know nobody like really from bridgewater summerville doing only fans no right so it's like those type of girls you know we go get a drink or something like that but like all that like wining and dining

Speaker 1 like i just feel like i should only do that if like

Speaker 1 you're really exclusive to me you know what i'm saying it's like so like i'm not really like i'm not on that i know a lot of dudes that spends like six figures a year on woman blows my mind and get no pussy barely any yeah come on bro and yo girls know that like you're a trick you know i'm saying like that's viewed.

Speaker 1 Like, you're out here. Like, you'll get laughed at.
I'm not on that shit, bitch. Like, you feel me? Like, I'm not taking you nowhere.
Like, you're going to chill with me because you like me.

Speaker 1 You feel me? I'm not applying pressure or trying to prove myself. Like, what type of joke is that? Yeah.

Speaker 1 What type of joke is that? Because I broke it down where like the girls that really like, girls that I've slept with and girls that really like me, I never had to do none of that.

Speaker 1 Why? Because if a girl really likes you, she'll fucking go to your fucking, you can live in a box. She'll come fucking hang out with you at your box.
Yeah. You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 1 So that whole apply pressure and shit like that, that's what bitches say to, they already got somebody. They already have somebody in their mind that they want.

Speaker 1 So now they want you to like, and that person doesn't want them. So now you're like trying to, man, I ain't proving myself this shit.
You already know me. Okay.

Speaker 1 Skinny front of nine, big skinny rapper. I got, nigga, you already know me.
I don't need to prove myself.

Speaker 1 If you don't know if you like me within the first hour, what the fuck is we even talking about?

Speaker 1 you feel me i'm charismatic i'm passionate i'm funny i can look good there's nothing to talk about you don't know if you like me then that's your own problem bro i don't got to fucking take you out on dinner to figure out if you like me no dinner dates right

Speaker 1 you think you'd ever do an exclusive relationship again because when i first met you you were in a long how long did you date that chick for that's funny bro we dated a i mean like i was with her like my whole entire high school career that's funny my whole entire high school career and a little bit after high school and you know we broke up because of me

Speaker 1 i wasn't i wasn't famed no i wasn't famed no we broke up love blast came from her oh that was for her she broke up with me i went to the studio i made that song because i was sad and heartbroken and then that song blew up that's crazy that's the movie

Speaker 1 she wanted you back She did.

Speaker 1 We spoke a little bit after the fact. You know, she's married and married now.
I don't really want to be putting her business out like that. Yeah.
Shit. And like, you know, but

Speaker 1 yeah, we chilled a few times after that.

Speaker 1 and uh you know we had that conversation obviously it's funny but um ultimately like you know we broke up because of me you know i wasn't loyal so damn how could i be mad that you move on and you go do something else that's another thing where people like fail to realize it's like you can't expect nothing from nobody after you have hurt that person right like people gonna go do whatever they want damn And just always have that mentality, like expect nothing from nobody except to do what people do they're gonna go fuck whoever they want they're gonna go do whatever they want you've reflected a lot man you're like way more mature philosopher no you're you're way more mature than i've done this shit bro like i've really like had some long talks with myself people won't ever come to those conclusions you know what i mean right because a lot of people are uh what's that word uh

Speaker 1 ego egotistic and like you know they're uh what's that word uh stubborn stubborn and uh hypocritical right a lot of hip hypocrisy it's hard to take accountability sometimes.

Speaker 1 Accountability is the first thing to like realize on everything. I take accountability every day.
I know when something's my fault. You know, I'm not even, I used to be a very big manipulator.

Speaker 1 I know when something's my fault. And I could nine times out of ten just like admit it.
Oh, yeah, that was my fault. My bad.

Speaker 1 Are you religious at all? Religious?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Well, see, a lot of people don't know this. I grew up in a Jehovah's Witness household.
No way. Swear to God.
Your mother? No, my father. So my father's mom, my grandmother my father's mom

Speaker 1 well my father's mom and dad my grandfather passed away rip

Speaker 1 um there's jehovah witnesses full-fledged jehovah witnesses baptized and all that

Speaker 1 so that obviously when my dad got out of when my dad got out of prison my dad obviously was very uh you know like turned a new leaf so part of his was like oh like i believe in god now like you know i'm a i'm a jehovah witness my dad yeah my dad was serious on us me and my brother like I never told nobody back in school because that shit was embarrassing, low-key.

Speaker 1 Like, not embarrassing, but like, you know, like, I don't know, like,

Speaker 1 Jehovah's Witnesses, people, you know, people have a lot of negative things to say.

Speaker 1 But I grew up, I really grew up in that shit. Like, I'm talking about like every Sunday, go to the congregation, every Saturday, go preaching, knocking on people's doors.
You were doing it.

Speaker 1 My young skinny front of nine was knocking on people's doors, bro. I swear to God, bro.
And I'll always be like, fuck. Like, I hope nobody from like school sees me.

Speaker 1 Like, that shit go be hella awkward, yo and um i never really i never got baptized though so like i never like really like

Speaker 1 just living when you're under 18 and you live with your parents you got to do everything they tell you to do

Speaker 1 that was like every saturday every sunday so obviously me going to like the congregation and stuff i'm pretty smart so like you know i've i listened I had no choice. I'm going to, I have to come here.

Speaker 1 So I listened and I've, you know, I've had Bible studies too, like as a like 13, 14, 15, having Bible studies. So like, I remember everything they taught us.

Speaker 1 And like when I really break it down, we're like, now I'm older and I can really make my own decisions in life. When I compare what Jehovah's Witnesses taught me versus like other religions,

Speaker 1 in my heart, I feel like Jehovah's Witnesses, like that is the truth. Wow.
Like, I feel like that, I feel like there is a God, you know what I'm saying? Like, his name's Jehovah.

Speaker 1 And, you know, judgment day is going to come one day. And like, you know, he's going to kill all the evil.
And, you know, the good people are going to be resurrected and like that.

Speaker 1 Like, I do believe in all of that. Damn, that's nuts.
Right. What about you? I don't know too much about Jehovah.
I grew up a little Christian. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Stopped going to church because, dude, I have ADHD. Like, I'm jumping off the wall.
Like, I'm going to be sitting in church. But I believe in God or something, dude.
There has to be, right?

Speaker 1 Like, I believe in karma. Right.
Like, I think you put out good energy, you get it back. Right.
Part of being Jehovah's Witnesses, we never celebrated birthdays. or holidays.
Yeah. That's crazy.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 So my fiancé, I'm getting married in three months and her cousin is a Jehovah. So, yeah, I was learning about that.

Speaker 1 This is why I believe this shit, though, because when you really break it down to like history, right?

Speaker 1 Like, when you break down some of where some of these holidays came from, like, they come from like bad shit. Really?

Speaker 1 Like, if you go down to like whatever, like, the first birthday was, first birthday, like, in history was like from a king, right? Some king.

Speaker 1 He had multiple wives. but it says in the bible that you should only have one wife so that's weird right multiple wives

Speaker 1 And like he would like celebrate by like killing people and shit like that. Like he would kill like the

Speaker 1 something like that, like kill like,

Speaker 1 you know, like kill somebody, like chop their heads off and shit like that. Like weird shit like that.
And like that was the first birthday. So like, why are we celebrating birthdays?

Speaker 1 You know what I'm saying? But some of the stuff I don't agree with because like I'm going to celebrate my birthday.

Speaker 1 Cause like, obviously, like, I don't, just because he did that on his birthday don't mean, you know what I'm saying? I'm celebrating my birthday. So.
Wow.

Speaker 1 So most Jehovahs don't celebrate their birthday?

Speaker 1 None of of them do holy crap no holidays no christmas no birthdays no like valentine's day thanksgiving no thanksgiving damn they celebrate one thing and it's uh

Speaker 1 when uh

Speaker 1 when jesus got resurrected what day is that i forgot it's like in march i think okay it's like in march and it's like yeah they resurrect they they they celebrate his resurrection damn so that's how you grew up Yeah.

Speaker 1 Holy shit.

Speaker 1 And you would have never known because I'm trying to be a rapper. Yeah.
So

Speaker 1 my mind is polluted already. Wow.
So do you feel like you were living two lives?

Speaker 1 Well, no, because like once I got old, I mean, what am I really doing when I'm like 14, 13, 15? It wasn't until like maybe like 17 or 18, I kind of like made my own decisions. I stopped going.

Speaker 1 So like, but I didn't keep going because then I felt like I am going to be living a double life and I'm more conscious of what I'm doing.

Speaker 1 So me being more conscious of what I'm doing, I feel like that's disrespectful to God.

Speaker 1 I feel like God would be more understanding slash forgiving if I wasn't living a double life because then that's just a slap in your face. Yeah.
Right?

Speaker 1 So that's how I always broke it down in my brain. That's nuts, dude.
I didn't know you had this side to you. Holy shit.

Speaker 1 Yo, you, you, yo, you really, that's why girls like me because when they get next to me,

Speaker 1 you actually have substance to you. Substance.
And let's be honest, a lot of like rappers, I'm not trying to generalize, but the conversation level isn't the highest. Right.
You know? Right.

Speaker 1 No, I know. I know.
Trust me. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I did want to talk about PNB rock because you guys did some big stuff together, right? And you probably learned a lot from him. Yeah, man.
R.I.P. PNB Rock, man.
That was my boy. You know,

Speaker 1 he wasn't like a lot of other people that I met. You know, our relationship wasn't the best of terms before he passed away.
But, like, we did still talk a little bit here and there.

Speaker 1 PNB showed me a lot of love, man. Like, I feel like PNB never got the credit he deserved.
right? Like, I feel like he was very talented.

Speaker 1 That's all I listened to growing up. Like, I listened to Fetty Wap, PNB Rock, and A Boogie.

Speaker 1 Like, those are the three rappers I listened to, like, my whole entire high school and like, even after high school.

Speaker 1 So I just feel like PNB never got the respect he deserved. And, you know, he introduced me to a lot of people.

Speaker 1 He was never like weird when it came to like clout and like fame and shit like that. Like he, he, he posted me millions of times, did the song with me, came to the video, always invited me out.

Speaker 1 Like, yo, I'm performing over here. Like, come out.
I'll bring you out as a special guest. You know, answer every time I called them.

Speaker 1 We had some good, like, heart-to-heart conversations.

Speaker 1 That was my boy, man. And that was fucked up what they did, man.
Like,

Speaker 1 that shit, I cried when PNB Rock died. Cause like, even though we weren't as close anymore, I just feel like that was my boy, man.
And, like, I just wanted to see the best for him. Yeah.

Speaker 1 That one must have fucked you up, man. Yeah, that was one of my idols, man.
That one was so unexpected, too. Yeah, that's crazy, man.

Speaker 1 Like, you gotta, and it's sad that, like, that even, like, that just shows you bro like somebody who was like loved could still be a target of like being robbed and like shit like that you know what i'm saying because like people will say like oh well people hate you that's why like things happen to you but like nah it's not even that it's just people are always looking for an easy way out you know they see you flashing with lots of jury and like that they want to get a come up you know and like maybe get a few few $20,000, $30,000.

Speaker 1 And you know, that's, that's, that's a lot of money for them.

Speaker 1 So people are willing to risk it all, no matter who you are.

Speaker 1 You know, I'm saying there's a lot of rappers that were loved, they got killed, man, like Pop Smoke, XXX, PNB, Nipsey, Nipsey, like these people were loved by their communities, you know, and they still were a victim of trying to get robbed, you know?

Speaker 1 So it's crazy, man. Like, it's sad.

Speaker 1 R.I.P., all of them. Dude, almost topped you, too.
Yeah, literally. LA, you got to move Smart off these days.
Holy shit. No, for sure.

Speaker 1 LA, it's crazy because when you get robbed or like someone that shit happens like a thief in the night you don't know when that shit's about to happen it just happens so you got to move sturdy yeah do you feel like you're always like looking over your shoulder nah not no more like you know i like i said man i think a lot of people like have learned to just like accept me for me and uh you know like

Speaker 1 uh

Speaker 1 you know i move with god bro i move with the grace of god bro like i ain't got i don't be worrying about a lot of shit like i'll be out here you could catch me at a casino by myself gambling like i'll be by myself most of the time respect yeah they got a free fetty wap man yeah yo free fetty bro i feel like that's another thing like

Speaker 1 man fetty wap bro he was a big inspiration i told you earlier that was a big inspiration to to my whole entire career man like you know we uh that's another thing like our relationship kind of fell apart but like i feel like uh if we ever get to have a conversation i feel like i could fix our relationship And, you know, I feel like they need to free him ASAP.

Speaker 1 You know, he should have got that Trump pardon. You know, he part, Trump pardoned a bunch of people.
Like, why not pardon WAP? Like, what WAP is in there for is not even violent.

Speaker 1 It's non-violent. It's drugs, bro.
Like, non-violent. He's freed violent offenders.
Why don't you free a non-violent offender? Right? And, like, he makes good music and shit like that. Why not, man?

Speaker 1 Free Fetty. The king of Jersey.
That's really the king of Jersey. I still bump him once in a while.
I bump him all the time to this day. Yeah.
Shout out to Fetty. Yep.

Speaker 1 So when you say you're not on the best tour, Fetty brought me like, that was my first tour oh yeah when i was blowing up and love blast was blowing up fetty said come on tour with me i performed like at all the east coast dates because i was still like in negotiations with labels so i was still like and the label even like wow like you're already on a tour like yeah like i'm on tour with fetty wap so you know he he he added to my value like like about to like get signed and shit like that even just knowing him when i would go to the labels like yeah like i know fetty wap and shit like that was big because like someone like me like damn how do you know like a big like rapper already?

Speaker 1 So. Yeah, shout out to him.
Yeah. What was causing you to have like a fallout with these artists? Was it the same problem?

Speaker 1 No, I feel like it was more like just what they were seeing on the internet about me, bro. Like a lot of shit just got blown out of proportion, bro.

Speaker 1 And then like me, just like my reaction to everything kind of just made it worse.

Speaker 1 Like I feel like people were like, I should have acted more mature to some of the shit that was like happening at the time. And I acted very immature.
So I kind of made myself look like a fool.

Speaker 1 So for like people on the outside looking in, they don't know what the fuck's going on. They just know like, oh, yo, this kid's acting a little fucking too wild for me.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 You know, and like time passes on, then you don't talk to nobody for like a while. And then, you know, relationships kind of fade.

Speaker 1 But like, I know everybody that Fetty's cool with, you know, like, I know everybody. So I still talk to everybody that Fetty knows, I have a relationship with.

Speaker 1 I just don't have a relationship with you. So I feel like maybe when he comes home, like, we'll be able to fix that shit ASAP.
I want to represent Jersey, bro. I want us all united.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 I always always,

Speaker 1 like, I just feel like with Jersey is so different from most states, bro, because everybody has that, like,

Speaker 1 I feel like in Jersey, just everybody has that mentality where, like, they want to be that guy. We're not united.
They want to be that guy. There's so many cities and counties.

Speaker 1 Versus like other states where like, nigga, we about to all be rich. Yeah.
You know? No, 100%. Jersey's very divided.
Even within your own town, there's division. Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 1 But I still hear of new towns in Jersey all the time. When people come up to me and I'm like, I'm from this town in Jersey.
I'm like, where the fuck is I? Right.

Speaker 1 You know, i've heard about some new towns lately too i'm like damn just when i thought i knew all about new jersey i don't because i never went to south jersey really right now i used to chill over there yeah i used to chill but like yeah like freehold and like um

Speaker 1 like toms river and like

Speaker 1 where else like brick and like that yeah i've been to those places what's your go-to town in jersey I kind of like going up north now. I like to be in Edgewater, Hoboken.
Hoboken's nice. Jersey City.

Speaker 1 Jersey City. You know, sometimes when I go back home, like I'm going to Jersey in August.

Speaker 1 You know i i like to be in summerville local you know i like go to the local bars and like you got good food there bro yeah somerville has good food i'll be eating at that main street all the time yeah when i'm back when are you going back uh august oh yeah so we might see each other

Speaker 1 yeah august uh 14th oh yeah i'll be there august 5th okay but i'm gonna be there still on the 14th i'll hit you up i'll hit you up we might have to go to summer together yeah

Speaker 1 let's do it well dude it's been awesome uh what are you working on next where can people keep up with you and everything uh you know just on instagram at at underscore underscore skinny from the nine underscore.

Speaker 1 And, you know, I've just been dropping music, you know, just doing YouTube, shit like that. And yeah, just being myself.
Check him out, guys. He's a changed man.
Let's get it. Let's do it.
Peace.

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