How AI is Redefining Wellness and Personal Health | Harry Massey DSH #1410

It's a 5,000 year old system that they've worked out through trial and error.

But the great thing is

it's actually just a message and you don't have to do it through acupuncture.

You can give the body that same message, direct information to your cells, and it's much more efficient.

Without the needle.

Without the needle.

That was always my fear.

The needle, man.

All right, guys, we got Harry here today, founder of Energy for Life.

Thanks for joining me today, man.

Thanks, Sean.

It's great to be here.

Yeah, we did a fun little experiment yesterday, but could you first explain what Energy for Life is?

Yeah, Energy for Life is a company.

It's there to restore humanity's energy for life and it specializes in biogetics, which is the study of energy and living systems.

And you got into this because of your own personal health journey, right?

Yeah, when I was 21, I had these three accidents.

And the first, I was ice climbing, fell, ended up fracturing my spine.

Although I didn't know I fractured my spine.

Then I went out to the Alps six months later, got a fever.

That turned out to be Epstein bar, which is known as like chronic fatigue syndrome.

And then on my third trip, after I'd already been fired from a job in London, I went back out to the Alps, was so exhausted, got stuck in a tent for

seven days, just eating dried bananas, drove myself back home,

ended up enrolling in an in an MVA, which was pretty stupid.

And then by the end of that MVA, I ended up in a in a wheelchair.

Jeez.

And

yeah, then I basically ended up completely bedbound with

full-on chronic fatigue syndrome.

And you were super young, right?

Yeah, I was 21 at the time.

Wow.

So to be bedridden, not able to move at 21, that must have been scary.

It was pretty rough, actually, yeah, because I'd been to university, having a really hedonistic, active amazing life all my friends had you know gone on to take all these great jobs and then yeah i was basically the black sheep of the family with um yeah no prospects and no hope at the time crazy and that lasted for years yeah lost for yeah for seven years jeez had ridden for seven years yeah and you're just looking for like a solution this whole time or

Yeah, the first few years I went down the traditional doctor route.

And in England, that's under the National Health Service.

got absolutely nowhere.

I mean, they didn't know what was wrong with me.

Ended up with, at the time, like the various functional medicine doctors, they put me on all these different IVs.

I had like the lowest magnesium levels recorded in England at the time.

And yeah, after around four, four or five years, I was like, well, this whole nutritional approach.

wasn't honestly getting me anywhere.

So I tried every diet from like Gerson Therapy, coffee, enemas,

homeophy, acupuncture, all these different things.

But yeah, unfortunately, I wasn't getting my energy back.

And that's when you discovered bioenergetics?

Yeah, I was introduced to this professor from Australia.

And he's the first person to set up an acupuncture college in Australia that became part of Melbourne University.

And he'd been mapping out the energy and information.

of the human body way, way beyond the traditional Chinese medicine system.

And,

you know, I had a call with him because I just thought at the time, if I didn't have any energy, why not study where energy was coming from instead of studying where sickness comes from?

Because the statistics when you're sick, like with something like chronic fatigue syndrome, once you've been bedridden for two years.

basically the statistics are awful, like 80% of people don't ever recover.

Wow.

So I just, I just knew that wasn't a route.

So I wanted to go the opposite way.

And yeah, fortunately, well, he took this call and he said to me, Well, I don't really know why I'm speaking to you, but I'm going to send you this facts.

And he sent me a paper on quantum biology, which I only understood around 10% of it.

But you know, when something like that happens, I knew there was something in it.

And we built a relationship.

He ended up emigrating from Australia to England.

And we formed this R D company company at the same time that he was treating me with the things I was doing with you yesterday.

Interesting.

So basically your body just had a bunch of energy blocks or what exactly was going on with you?

So

in the bioenergetics world there's this there's this principle of an energy control system and in normal biology we're all used to the chemistry control system.

You know, you eat a suffering, you take a drug, travels through your digestive system, liver into the blood.

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And a message gets through your cell, you know, and has a particular chemical reaction.

However, that's a really, really inefficient way of getting you better.

And instead of doing that, you can direct a message directly into your cells using fields.

And the basis of Peter's work is he'd actually mapped out all of the energy fields of the body.

Wow.

So that's why acupuncture is so effective.

Yeah, that's why, yeah, it's a 5,000-year-old system that they've worked out through trial and error.

But the great thing is

it's actually just a message and you don't have to do it through acupuncture.

You can give the body that same message, the direct information to your cells.

It's much more efficient.

Without the needle.

Without the needle.

That was always my fear.

The needle, man.

got to penetrate like hundreds of needles in your body.

Well, also, it's a bit inconvenient because you have to go and visit an acupuncture.

And if you want to get really good results of acupuncture you know you want to visit them a few times a week right and then it's pretty effective but to do that at home yeah it's not really practical might as well use this device which you used on me yesterday could you actually explain what what this is right here yeah so this is a well this device is called the my health and it does a few things so one it stimulates you electrically

Two, it'll broadcast a PMF field.

But the third most important thing is from this map of all the fields of the body, you can directly put in the right message and the right information straight into what we call your body field or your body's energy control system, which is, as you say, it's like a replacement of the acupuncture points.

Yeah.

And we'll throw up some B-roll footage of the test I did, but I basically spoke one through 10 out loud into your computer.

We saw the issues going on with my body.

And then you then used this device on me.

to help, right?

Yeah, yeah.

I mean, is it okay to share what came off in your scan?

Yeah.

Sure.

So when when we scanned Sean yesterday, like it showed he had some adrenal fatigue, showed he had some low energy in his brain, cavity, chest cavity.

It also showed like

liver anger, right?

Liver anger and basically like overall stress, which is what you had been experiencing last week.

Yeah, I think as entrepreneurs, we just kind of put that to the side.

But to see it on the paper, like that extreme, because I was on the extreme end of this, really made me want to fix that.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So thank you.

Cause I don't know how long it takes to feel the results, but I could be placebo, but I feel better already.

I mean, well, with this device, yeah, you've, I mean, you basically feel, you feel better that day.

And obviously the body is layered.

And, you know, while you can affect the control system and you can feel calmer and feel more energy, so it does take.

does take a bit longer to get all the physical changes but that's because your body's overall control system when when you correct that physical changes like come over the next over the next couple of months nice yeah it was really eye-opening for me just to speak into a computer and for that device to recognize everything going on with me the future of uh you know medicine is exciting oh yeah that's it's pretty incredible where it's going yeah because imagine if you had that when you were bedridden at 21 you would have known pretty quickly what was going on right

yeah that's exactly the motivation.

I mean, when I was that age, well, no, when I was 26, the idea that that came into my head, because I couldn't go and travel to different doctors because I couldn't drive at the time, or I had to persuade my parents to drive me.

And I just thought then, like, wouldn't it be great if there was a home wellness system that could just help you from the comfort of your own home?

You know, that led to that initial scan that you did yesterday and these infraceuticals, which are a way of putting information back into the body.

But really, like, the long-term vision of that was to create a wearable

where it's just always reading you 24 7 and always correcting you that information 24 7.

wow it's almost like it auto corrects you like you know you're typing and you get auto corrected uh yes it's pretty much exactly like that so in in chinese medicine you can read your pulse and there's 29 different pulses so we worked out algorithms that will read that pulse in real time and then exactly that it auto corrects based to your reading wow so walk us through how these infoceuticals work what what type of research has been been done on these and the science behind it?

So, well, the research, there's about 14 different studies, but I'll tell you some of the latest.

So University of California in San Diego under Professor Hamel Patel.

I met him at a Joe Dispenza event because he was doing research for Joe.

And I think it was, yeah, it was in 2021.

He was doing all of this COVID research where he was able to show that meditation could reduce viral penetration rate into lungs.

I went up to him and I said, well, that's great, but in your study,

you're basically getting people to meditate two to three hours a day for months on end and you're getting that result.

What if you could just get that result by just delivering the information straight away?

And he didn't believe me, but I sent him a bunch of infraceuticals to the university.

And they sat on his shelf for around four or so months.

And he eventually got around to it.

He rang me up one day and he said, you know, Harry, oh, that actually works.

So he basically got a culture of lung tissue, imprinted them with our infraceutical that helps the lung.

And it had, basically, it had the same, well, it was a couple of percent better.

It reduced the viral penetration rate by 40%.

Wow.

And then he said, you know, why don't you go and send me some more infoceuticals?

And what we're mostly concerned with is energy, because if you can restore people's energy, then people have enough energy to actually heal.

So we then did all of these different culture tests on different organs but mainly muscle tissue and we were able to show that when you infrint muscle tissue we can increase the mitochondrial density by another 50%

but you can also make the energy efficiency of a cell

use like carbohydrates in a more efficient manner by 25%.

And we're also able to protect the cell from ROS damage.

ROS stands for reactive oxygen species, but basically they poison the cell and is able to protect the cell from that.

That is fascinating.

All from this little vial, huh?

Oh, yeah.

Well, a particular one called Cell Driver.

There's 76 of them.

Wow.

That is so efficient, too.

Because before, I feel like people would need to spend way more money to address those issues, right?

Way more, right?

You can spend thousands and thousands of dollars on blood tests to try and work out the root cause.

You don't really know the root cause, then after that, you could spend

infinite money on stem cells, supplements, etc.

Yeah, stem cells are crazy expensive.

Yeah, crazy.

Yeah.

And this is like, well, it's $35 a bottle.

So wow.

So you can get the effects of stem cells in one of these?

You know, I don't know if I should totally say that claim.

Yeah.

But in short, yes, you can rejuvenate cells.

Wow.

That is so cool.

Did want to talk about emotions, too.

Is it true emotions can drain your your energy?

Absolutely.

So I'll just go to like a fundamental principle of why energy matters so much for your health.

So when you're looking at a cell, a healthy cell will produce 50 to 70 millivolts across the cell membrane.

And when it lows down to around 50 millivolts, you start getting all these different symptoms and diseases.

And in short, the thing that you want to do is make your cell use energy.

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Energy more efficiently, because if it's using energy more efficiently, you have more energy available.

You have more energy available to heal.

And one of the biggest drains, like we all think toxins, EMF,

different viruses burn up energy.

And they do, but actually the most significant thing that burns up your energy is stress stress and negative emotions.

So, for example, there's a study done by Yale University over 10 years,

and they looked at lung cancer caused from smoking, but also anger.

And what they found is all the smokers who scored highly with anger, they were the ones who actually got lung cancer and died.

And all the ones that are actually in the more positive emotional states

never actually got cancer.

Wow.

And so you might think like, well, you know, we all think that smoking causes cancer.

And it's not that smoking is good for you.

It's totally not.

But when the smoke enters your lungs,

what it's actually doing,

when you have a negative emotion, your DNA and RNA can't create repair proteins and excrete.

the toxins when you're in a negative state.

But if you're in a positive state, all of your cells are basically able to excrete toxins and use energy more efficiently so that's why negative emotions or i should say the opposite why positive emotions are so much more important that is so fascinating it makes me think of alcohol too because there's alcoholics that are drinking when they're depressed and angry and it must do more more damage when you're like that oh yeah it's a yeah it's a self-perpetuating cycle where you get worse and worse wow the power of the mind huh yeah that is so crazy um also on the opposite end like there's good emotions, right?

Like gratitude, self-love.

Yeah.

So, I mean, every, every, like in Chinese medicine, every organ has its opposite.

So if we take the liver, for example,

the liver in Chinese medicine is seen as the general and it's all about being decisive.

So what you want to do is cultivate decisions and decisiveness.

And that, of course, gets rid of frustration and anger.

Like the quicker you can get to a decision, the less frustration and ang and angry you are also took um if you took like your spleen and pancreas the negative emotion would be anxiety but the positive side of anxiety is having faith or trust that things are going to work out so you know what this wearable is primarily doing or one of the things it does is it looks at those negative emotions gives you awareness of them and then it also puts in a bioenergetic signature that will help you be in that more positive state.

But of course, just having that awareness and listening to a meditation to help transform that characteristic is massively helpful wow i think my spleen came up on the reading too yesterday so that's anxiety yeah it's your pancreas wasn't it was it pancreas

okay but i'm sure you're seeing a lot of anxiety issues right oh yeah yeah that's a big one these days uh yeah it's one of the main ones for sure damn um how does ai play a role in in your systems are you using ai with with your devices you know i mean i've had the company 24 years like when i originally originally met peter so it did it didn't start with ai i mean it started with literally trial and error and refining algorithms over a very very long period of course we've had this massive race in ai over the last couple of years but what's really exciting is now we can take those vocal biomarkers we can combine it with all your wearable data with all the pulse data and soon you can all you can also upload all your blood lab results and then that gives you a much much more accurate reading of what's going on.

But also the extra clever bit is you can see in real time what's affecting you and

it knows its treatments or it knows the biogenetic signatures that it's giving back to you.

So it can continually refine it over time.

Wow.

Have you seen anything offset the EMF?

Yeah, so

in our world of what we call the body field,

there's

certain parts of the body field that get affected much more.

And so in our thinking, instead of trying to protect, what we do is actually just strengthen the damage to your body field.

So we just put in the information that

corrects that part of your body field, just making you

interesting.

Yeah.

I think most of these devices, it's more about strengthening your own body field to be more resilient.

like the idea that it actually is blocking a wave you know that's a misconception that's not really true yeah that'd be hard to pull off, right?

These towers are powerful.

Yes.

We got a lot of new buildings.

You said there's nine on the roof.

I just counted on the way in.

Oh my god, you've got 14 individual bits and then you've got a huge radar.

Oh my god.

That's insane.

I wonder if that affected my results yesterday, though.

I mean, well, I mean, it's going to be affecting your body over time.

I mean, it, and your liver, actually, it is quite sensitive to EMF.

Oh, man.

I'm here a lot.

I got to figure out some solutions.

Might have to take some

of these.

Yeah.

Yeah.

But what's next for you?

I know you're starting to sell this soon, right?

In a few months.

I mean, yeah, probably the biggest things, this wearable is coming out in basically in mid-May.

Actually, there's a new version of this, this device coming out, too.

I love it.

We'll put the link below.

So I highly recommend it, guys.

I had a really pleasant experience.

It was seamless, pretty easy.

Sometimes people really fear going to the doctor and everything, but I feel like with your stuff, it's a lot different than Western medicine.

I mean, the whole concept for us

is it's not about the symptom or what's wrong with you.

What we're looking at is how is someone, when they're optimal or when their control system is working properly, and we just look at the differences.

So we're always just...

helping you to optimize your overall body's control system.

Right.

And you want to help billions with this.

Absolutely.

Yeah.

Absolutely.

I mean, from a societal level, I mean, without, well, I can go down into it, but like the, you know, the healthcare system,

if I go back to like Rockefeller, you know, Rockefeller, unfortunately, because they wanted to find a market for all of their drugs and chemicals, basically started

banning, like using regulation.

um discrediting different scientists and doctors and that's why we've got a whole system today that's that's built on biochemistry.

But if you use a field-based system, there's so many advantages.

I mean, one, you're not putting any extra chemicals or toxicity.

And even supplements, I know probably the supplement industry will hate me, but

I'll say it anyway.

You know, for example, if you take turmeric, like turmeric's a great anti-inflammatory, but if you use it every single day, it'll lower a male's testosterone by 32%.

Gosh, dangerous.

I I literally take that one every day.

I really?

Yeah, I don't.

Just take it when you're inflamed.

Okay.

Good to know.

Yeah, you don't want to take it every day.

But I mean,

every single thing you put in your body, it always has a second or third order effect.

So from our point of view,

if you're just, you might as well just use a message.

Well, here's the bottom line.

You want to find out which part of your control system is going wrong or isn't optimal, correct correct that.

And of course, it does change over time.

And if you're just giving a message without a chemical, you can correct that part of your body's control system without getting any of that toxicity and side effects.

So from an overall societal level, it needs a much, much cheaper healthcare system.

What's also much more effective.

And there's really, you know, there's no harm.

There's way, way less risk of flooding your body with chemicals.

I love that.

That's beautiful.

What other client transformations have you seen other than your own journey?

Oh, like thousands, but I can give some examples, please.

So we also did research into skin.

So

at the university,

you can basically create a skin graft and cut it.

And we've seen how it can repair skin in a much, much faster manner.

Wow.

But

on a personal level, so we had someone with

such severe psoriasis that all of their arms and bodies were completely and utterly red.

They'd had it for seven years almost, well, they told us they were basically giving up on their life because it was so painful.

Just three weeks of using infaceuticals, it all cleared and so they came back.

Wow.

Or there's an example of

a pony, pony with a completely open wound, been using antibiotics and everything to heal the wounds, couldn't heal the wound.

And this was using this device, but basically we were able to heal the wound within a couple of weeks.

Wow.

And that's big for animals to be able to use this too.

You know, animals, it's a lot easier with animals.

You know, the problem with humans is we also have the nocebo effect.

Like if you don't believe something or you're all negative about it, unfortunately, you know, you can counter results.

Really?

Well,

in any therapy, because it's just like that lung cancer study I said,

a dog or animal,

they don't have any concept of what you're doing.

They don't know what they don't, they don't believe it, they don't not believe it.

So, when you do it, it's yeah, it's

actually more effective.

I didn't know how powerful nocebo was.

Yeah, it's very powerful.

So, even if you're doing it on someone, but he doesn't believe it could work, his brain is very skeptical.

Yeah, I think it's fine to be neutral.

You just want to be like having an open skepticism, but being neutral is fine.

But, you know,

there are people who are sick who go from practitioner to practitioner, therapy to therapy.

I was probably one of those, you know, I was 21 to 25, 26.

So I discovered this.

And, you know, people are almost like,

well, see,

you can't cure me, but like they're defeating themselves, unfortunately.

Wow.

So what happened with your spinal injury?

Did you have to do any surgery or anything?

It was.

That was pretty interesting.

So

I had the climbing accident.

And then two years later, I was paragliding

i had another accident hit hit the ground was rushed off to the hospital and they said well you know you didn't break anything today but it looks like your your spine was was fractured from that climbing accident yeah as they see in a lot of back pain for years and years and that that was actually the reason i wanted to create this device is you create the voice scan, the infraceuticals first.

But yeah, the great thing with this device, because it'll put energy directly into that part of the body, but it'll also remind your nervous system, your brain that there's a problem with that area.

So it'll trigger a healing response directly in that area.

So, yeah, I mean, there's literally this.

Wow.

So, your spine's all healed now.

Yeah.

Holy crap.

Because I know people get these spinal fusions and all these crazy procedures.

Yeah.

And then sometimes you can't ever walk again once you get those.

Yeah, no, I was lucky.

I never had surgery, so it made it easier to heal.

wow well done man well what's uh what's the next step for you here what are you looking to do next

uh i mean i mean for us we've we're basically fusing in all the ai with with our voice scan with the wearable bringing out to market and there's one other project that's pretty interesting we've been making a a whole personalized med bed

and with that same similar idea but you

you can take the voice scan and the wearable data, walk up to a med bed, and because it knows precisely what's going on with you, it'll put in the right wavelengths and the right information straight into the tissues.

And then to help the emotional effect, you then listen to a personalized meditation

that'll basically take you through each of those organs that come up in the scan.

So

you get the visualization hypnosis effect.

You get the energy.

from the light, from the PMF, but you also get the right instructions to your body to heal that is beautiful i wonder what that would uh look like with someone with depression

um

i mean it'll basically basically i mean with with depression

often with depression i mean it's you know it's because because people have sort of lost like you know they don't quite know what to do um

but it's very hard to get out of depression when you're very very low in energy so yeah absolutely putting putting enough energy into the body, but also taking on that visualization journey

That's a good point.

Cause yeah, a bit depressed and you start sleeping like 12 hours a day because you don't have energy.

Yeah.

And you're trying to get it back.

So that makes me wonder if our bodies have a finite amount of energy or you could just constantly replenish it.

That's an interesting point.

So like your body is an overall energy exchange system.

So like I was saying yesterday about walking, you know, if you go outside, there's a lot of energy from sunlight, gentle walking, because you're breathing breathing in oxygen, breathing out carbon dioxide, that helps build your energy.

If you go barefoot, well, there's more extreme versions of barefoot.

You can go in an ozone sauna.

It will put a lot of negative electrons in you.

So as a general principle, the more you can recharge your body with energy and make that energy more efficient.

the healthier you'll be.

That's why some doctors tell their patients to just walk outside in nature.

Oh, yeah.

Right.

I've heard that a few times.

Yeah.

Or swimming in the sea is like the sea is amazing.

The ocean because the sun is hitting structured water.

When the sun hits all of that salt water, it'll create more free electrons in the water.

So you're basically bathing in this, in this sea of free electrons.

Wow.

That makes sense.

Cause when I go in the ocean water, I feel amazing.

Oh, yeah.

No, it's literally one of the best ways.

Like grounding, walking barefoot is nothing compared to swimming in this.

Really?

Yeah.

I used to be a fan of grounding, but then the whole parasite thing scared me in the grass.

Oh, right.

Yeah, like if a cow poops and then you start walking around.

Oh, I know that.

Have you ever heard of that?

No.

Parasites can enter your feet.

Oh, God.

Oh, sorry for breaking the bad news.

I've got a dog.

Dogs are full of parasites.

But I'm sure with these devices, these probably help with parasites, too.

I mean, in the end, you know, whether it's like virus fungus or parasites, the stronger your own body.

the more you can resist them anyway.

That's good to know.

Well, Harry, it's been awesome.

We'll uh throw up some footage of my uh scanning and everything and make some clips.

Anything else you want to close off with?

Um, you know, if people want to try out the voice scan, they can just go to e4l.com backslash voice, and yeah, you can you can try out the whole

voice scan yourself.

Definitely try it, guys.

All you got to do is speak one through ten, and it tells you a bunch of important information.

Cool, we'll link it below.

Thanks for coming on.

Oh, thank you.

Check them out, guys.

See you next time.