The Science Behind EMF & Airestech’s Game-Changing Solution| Airestech DSH #1366

About the impact on the DNA.

And, you know, we're running a longitudinal study now, right?

Happening in real time.

And it's happening in real time.

And data is starting to come out talking about the anxiety generation.

People in their 20s that have early exposure to screens at a young age, so media at a young age, you know, stuff like that.

And what was the impact?

All right, guys.

Dr.

Dobers back and Josh here.

We got my brain scan results, and we're going to talk about Aries Tech as well.

Thanks for joining us, guys.

Super grateful to be here, man.

Yeah, thank you for that.

I just got hooked up for the past hour.

I'd love to see what will happen here.

Yeah.

Yeah.

We can explain a little bit the setup because I think that will help.

But yeah, what we were looking for was we want to kind of establish what your brain looked like.

And I'll let the doctor actually speak to this, but giving some context as to why we work with, you know, people like Dr.

Dogris and this specific test that we do really does help people understand the really what's happening at the physiological level and in the neurological level and then also how does the phone in let's say emr emf really affect that and just disrupt that and then demonstrating the effect that the aries product actually does to mitigate that and i think that's really what we wanted to show and why we work with dr dogris and and others to to help us understand at a physiological level what's happening so maybe you explain how we set this up

So what we're what we did was an electroencephalogram.

It's a brainwave scan.

And the EEG is a great device for measuring the electrical output of the brain.

And so we put a 19 channel cap on your head and we did three recordings.

The first was a baseline so we can just get an idea of what you look like right when you walk in.

Second one was a recording after you had been exposed to a live phone for five minutes.

The third one was another

recording after you had been exposed to a live phone that had Aries protection on it.

And I conducted a comparison analysis between these records to see what changed from your baseline to the exposure.

And we also looked at your heart.

And we're looking at sympathetic and parasympathetic activation and heart rate variability.

And so we have a pretty

good analysis of your heart as well.

Yeah.

And for those watching, we'll throw up the images on video and on audio.

We'll put a link with all the photos.

Okay, great.

Yeah.

So where would you like to start?

I think one thing I want to preface it with is my initial introduction to Dr.

Dogris was I needed someone to perform this test.

And we always tell the story because I never met him.

And we had hired the studio to come do this production to like record what was happening.

And he didn't really actually know what was going to happen.

We, like I said, we had like one conversation and said, Here's kind of here's what I'm looking for.

And the idea came from the fact that we had, I was trying to replicate what we had already done in the laboratory and in our clinical trials.

So I had already had, I don't know how many, nine different peer-reviewed studies using EEG, using heart rate variability, you know, in a wide, you know, ranging types of

people or test subjects.

And so from a storytelling standpoint, I was thinking, man, can we just replicate this?

How hard is it?

And so making a few phone calls, ended up finding my way to Dr.

Dogris.

And so we show up in the studio and again, never met him.

And he shows up and to me, he's like a rock star, right?

He shows up.

He's got the hair.

He's got the boots.

He's got the vibe.

And

anyways, it was just an awesome day because we got to test a bunch of different conditions, a bunch of different people, again, kind of mirroring what we'd already done in the trials.

So I already knew the results we're going to get, but he didn't know.

And so he was getting really genuine reactions.

And like as a scientist, he's, you know, one question leads to another question, to another question.

And so we've had the opportunity to work a lot together.

What I like to preface, though, is what we did today is

an experiment that we're just really mirroring what we did in a very controlled environment.

And once I learned that we could do this and we could do these demonstrations or these experiments with really really anybody, I mean, we've done these now.

I don't know how many people we've tested live and the results are have some variations to it, but always positive.

And, but it is interesting how

different people respond to the cell phone or just EMF and how dramatic it is.

And then in dramatic, but it can be in different ways.

So I kind of prev is like, here's a little backstory.

Here's how we know each other.

He works, he runs really cool clinics.

I say really cool because the work that they do there.

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is kind of vast and we can talk a little bit more about that we get it get into it but um we i work with him as a doctor like we hire him as a doctor as a researcher and he's not part of my company uh but uh he's awesome to work with the last thing i'll say about to kind of set this up is Dr.

Dogris is unique in the fact that not only is he a doctor, but he runs a company that actually manufactures manufactures the equipment and the software that does the EEG.

So it's FDA approved.

And that's how I, that's really what I was looking for when I was finding someone to assist was I need the highest quality that I can find because I need the best data.

I need the best person to do this.

But what's great about that is that overlap of physics and physiology, that kind of the data,

the science aspect, plus what's happening at the physiological level.

There aren't that many people with the depth of knowledge.

So it was a real like blessing to

be able to work with Dr.

Dogris because he knows both sides of that.

Yeah.

He understands EMF from a scientific perspective, but also the physiological side as well.

So it's really cool.

So I'll stop there and let you run.

Like, what do we learn today?

But to kind of dovetail into it, you know,

I was very skeptical.

uh when i heard about aries tech at first and you know i and just by the nature of being a scientist i i am that way all the time yeah i've been in the neuroscience field now for almost 35 years.

I'm a licensed psychologist in the state of California.

I am the co-founder and owner of Neurofield Incorporated, which is a company that manufactures EEG devices, but we also manufacture neurostimulation devices, pulse electromagnetic stimulators, photo-biomodulation stimulators, light, basically.

cranial electric stimulators.

So there's a number of different things that we use to be able to rehabilitate the brain.

So I'm also, you know, as a psychologist and a neuroscientist, we get a lot of people in our Santa Barbara clinic, which is a neurofield neurotherapy.

And in that clinic, we see a wide variety of different kinds of people with a wide variety of issues from the very young to the very old.

So when Josh approached me at first, I thought, you know,

number one, I really care about the EEG field and what it is that we bring to the table.

And, you know, for the, you know, healing people and helping people

get better from a number of different kinds of problems.

And so, you know, I have a, I'm protective of that because it is a modality that is

really showing very strong scientific evidence that is good for you and helpful.

And so,

you know, in looking at Aries, I was like, oh, do I want to do this or not?

You know, because of my, you know, my professional standing.

And

in typically, EMF devices that I had evaluated prior to Aries were questionable.

Yeah, the stickers, right?

Yeah.

Well, people would say, well, this is going to shield you or it's going to stop this.

And we conducted experiments and it didn't, you know, wasn't the case.

And so

when we met the first time, and, you know, it was blind.

I ran, I think it was five different, or four or five different scans.

Yeah.

And

I was, uh, I was very, very surprised by the data.

And because I was the one that collected the data using one of my devices, which is an FDA EEG cleared device with FDA cleared software, which basically says that you have something that's going to measure the brain and it's going to do it accurately.

And so,

yeah, I was pretty surprised and pleasantly surprised because I think that, you know,

again, we develop a pulsed electromagnetic stimulator, but the difference between that and what is out in the air around you is significantly different.

It's very low intensity.

It's designed to be more soothing and comforting to the body as opposed to being harmful.

Yeah.

And so,

you know, so today, in looking at your brain scans,

I could go right into.

Yeah, I think so.

Maybe we set up the different conditions so people can kind of follow along.

And then when we throw up the scans, they're like, okay, this is, this is baseline.

This is cell phone exposure, which I think we maybe touched on that.

And then here's the cell phone exposure plus Aries.

Right, right.

Let's start with the heart.

Yeah.

Because I think this is really interesting stuff.

So

the heart rate variability measure

is pretty accurate.

The heart's a metronome, basically.

And the heart has different frequency bands.

There's what's called ULF, VLF, LF, and HF.

The LF and HF bands are of particular interest because they represent the arms of the autonomic nervous system.

The LF band is the sympathetic side, and the HF band is the parasympathetic side.

And so sympathetic is you're up, you're focused, you're doing stuff, right?

Parasympathetic, you're laying back on a hammock, you're relaxing, right?

So when you walked in on baseline,

Those two bands were pretty equal to each other.

So the yellow and the green, you you were just a little bit more parasympathetic so it means you were relaxed you know your heart rate variability score was 94.64 milliseconds normal is 50.

uh people that have higher heart rate variabilities from 50 to 100 are are typically athletic and they work out they they get good cardio and so obviously you do that um and so you know i i saw that and i thought okay this is normal good we have a good baseline now when

we ran the first exposure

you were exposed to a phone with no Aries protection

and then just to be clear we weren't we weren't taking the reading while the phone was active that's correct yeah I think that one jumps out at us a lot

people always say oh it contaminates the recording yeah every recording we took there was no active phone yeah it was it was you know it was it was we only exposed you for a period of time then we shut off the phone and took it away from you yep so it's uh the the recordings are pure.

There's nothing to contaminate the recordings.

Also, I personally artifacted these recordings.

So I made sure that the data that is represented here is actual brain and heart data and not artifact, which is another thing that can occur that can make the data skewed, essentially.

Okay, so what we see here, and this is really interesting, is that the LF band, the sympathetic arm, almost doubled as compared to the parasympathetic arm.

So

this yellow bar here went really high,

which represents you being more vigilant.

And

this is a profile that I have seen with first responders, people diagnosed with PTSD and anxiety.

So it's obvious that this phone had an impact on you that created a

more sympathetic response in your heart.

That's the first observation.

And then when you

did the second exposure with the Aries present,

then we saw a different presentation with your heart.

And this is what we saw.

Now the, it flipped completely.

The parasympathetic activation goes off the scale and the sympathetic activation drops dramatically.

And that happened within a period of five minutes.

Crazy.

And so that, you know, all of us who were sitting here watching this happen, that's a big swing huge and you didn't appear to have any state change or consciousness change you were awake you weren't sleeping it was the same it was the same state in all three recordings in my opinion yeah um and so and all done at the same time notably your heart rate variability spiked uh when you were exposed to the phone as compared to when you had aries on it actually dropped to 74.98 which again is healthy it's a it's a little less than

your baseline rhythm, but it's within variability.

So it's pretty close.

So

it appears that the protection had an influence on what your heart was doing.

Wow.

That's impressive.

Yeah, I was going to ask you, like, you know, because

You know, people often comment when they see our content or they read our studies and they, you know, they want to really understand all the different controls and things things like that and i'm and i have seen this now many times and we've done again all the clinical stuff that we've done and i'm and i'm always like if i asked you to control the different aspects of your heart or the burnt the different waves in the brain like would you even know like how would you even think about that you know when you sat here and got tested did you did you feel different from one to the next like were you like actively trying to say i got to calm down or i got to like and i and i always you know we don't get a chance to talk to the test subjects in this environment Yeah.

So I'm curious your thoughts as you were going through that.

Like what was going through your mind as you were, you know, navigating this.

Yeah.

I didn't feel any noticeable differences.

Um, during the test, he was saying to like loosen my jaw and to kind of stay calm.

So I was sort of just thinking about that.

But

no, I didn't feel anything.

So to see it like that drastically on like the readings is really wild to me.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And and but overall, you weren't like, you weren't trying to like beat a test of some sort because you didn't really know what you were being tested.

no i didn't know what yeah yeah typically prompts are given um so i can see jaw or muscle um uh artifact in the record as we're recording and so it's not unusual during these kinds of recordings to tell a person okay keep your jaw loose or stay calm or you know give me periods of time where you don't blink that kind of thing and we try to keep the amount of of direction uh to a minimum.

So occasionally in all three recordings, I think I coached you in all three of them.

Yeah.

Just to make sure that we're getting good data.

Yeah.

For me, it's like pretty crazy to see with my own eyes because you hear all these videos about how EMF is bad for your body, but I've never seen like actual results like this.

I think it's actually really good point to say because the average healthy person

in real time is not always able to

have a, I guess, a physical response, like a negative physical response.

But it doesn't mean that it's not happening.

And so maybe speak to that.

Like what's, we saw it's actually happening at a physiological level.

so what does that mean it's we're talking really about a cumulative effect over time a compounding effect that's maybe occurring or you know potentially a weakening of something that allows something more dramatic to actually so from your standpoint what does it actually mean because like you said you don't really you know not everyone has this dramatic response some people do uh they actually have a real physical response but you would probably know on both both directions so like if you know you had a negative response and then you that therefore you then know you had a positive response the average person isn't isn't responding in that way.

So what is actually happening?

Yeah.

You know, it's interesting when you think about it, it's a

it's a primitive response, you know, when you're looking at the heart.

You know,

the heart's picking up what's happening and it's, it's responding to it in real time.

And that primitive response is, if there's danger, then you're going to have a sympathetic response.

Right.

In your environment.

And that sympathetic response is fight or flight, right?

You know,

your blood flow is going to get diverted to muscles.

Your respiration might increase.

You know, your body is going to prepare for combat or it's going to prepare to run away.

Right.

And your brain's going to get sharper.

It's going to become more sympathetic because there's danger present.

But when danger is not there, your body relaxes.

Right.

And so it's no surprise to me at all.

that he goes into a parasympathetic response because now the body's not threatened anymore.

So in my opinion,

it's primitive.

It's outside of your real conscious awareness.

Yeah.

Interesting.

So, you can't control it.

It would be very difficult to.

You'd have to be like an established meditator to put yourself into a parasympathetic or sympathetic state.

But the sympathetic response is harder to gear up unless you're a person that has, you know, trained to do that.

Like a mom.

Like a first or a first responder, for instance.

Oh, yeah.

They're trained to be calm and stressful.

they're

well they will be sympathetically activated most of the time and that's not good for you sympathetic activation is good if you need it to be on and you're threatened you want your body to be able to go into that state so that you can protect yourself or run away have the natural response that's going to be healthy yeah but if you stay there it's kind of like driving a car in red line You know, the motor can only handle it for so long before it ceases.

And so your body, when it gears down, your body is going to go into its housekeeping mode.

Then it's going to start getting rid of toxins and stuff in your bloodstream that shouldn't be there.

You eliminate stuff, right?

But you can't go into housekeeping mode when you're in a sympathetic vigilance.

You stay in a, in a vigilance mode.

Your body's using its resources and it's going to, it's going to continue to hold on to all the garbage that should go out.

And over time, that will translate to illnesses.

Wow.

And yeah, because those kinds of toxins in your body could, could, you know, they can impact all the systems like your kidneys, your liver, your stomach, your heart,

your brain, all of them.

And eventually it could turn into really bad, you know, diseases.

Yeah.

For me, it's eye-opening because I knew EMF kind of affected the brain, but I didn't know the heart as well and probably other organs too, right?

Yeah, the whole body.

Wow.

The whole system's going to get impacted.

Yeah, the way I always describe it, because I get these questions all the time.

And in science is like not helpful because if you read this paper, that's like, okay, it talks about oxidative stress.

This one maybe talks about blood-brain barrier or

the cell communication,

calcium channels,

all sorts of things.

So there's clearly like a lot of different ways that EMF and EMR exposure, you know, like is processed at a physiological level.

And you know, maybe it's different for everybody, but there's definitely a clear amount of stress that's occurring.

And how, what that looks like over a long period of time is difficult to test as well.

But I do think the science is getting more and more convincing of like, hey, this is something to be aware of, which is why I think you're seeing culturally more people talking about it.

You saw it in the executive order that the president signed in February, where I think it was section four calls out specifically

connecting EMR exposure to

the disease epidemic in America.

It specifically calls it out, out.

Like they want to do more research and learn more about that.

And so you are seeing it more in culture, like more awareness of EMR causing a problem.

And actually, I was just talking to one of your team members here and they were talking about their Apple Watch.

And it's, and I told them like, Apple Watch is one of the number one products that people find their way to us is their experience with the Apple Watch.

And I don't really know why, but the Apple Watch is one that is like the gateway product to finding a solution.

And it was interesting because I see, I would say, one out of three people that I interact with almost always call it out.

Cell phone is, you know, probably number one, but I think it's the Apple Watch or smartwatches.

I don't want to pick on one brand or the other, but smart watches in general seem to be a triggering product for some reason.

Yeah.

And the doctor was telling me earlier about house, there's so many devices that emit EMF, not even just like the ones we know, like phones and stuff.

But he was saying a chair.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Isn't that crazy?

Yeah.

Yeah.

A motor and a chair will do it yeah um you know that's one uh

a lot of uh appliances in your home hair dryer is a big one you know really hair dryer refrigerators are are huge emf generators wow yeah i didn't know that oh yeah yeah microwaves too like of course yeah microwaves are interesting though because they're still they're very well shielded so uh because it's a that's a different part of the electromagnetic spectrum that is dangerous.

So they do shield them more.

It doesn't mean that they're still not, I mean, when you understand the physics of it, there is a amount of smog that's generated in and around all of the devices.

But yeah, I mean, you really can't escape it.

We've been traveling.

I've had this prototype wearable EMF

reader and

that is programmed to tell you how much EMF your body is absorbing and kind of where all your hotspots are, but then gives you like a cumulative score over the day.

And

if you're at 100, that's what your allowable, allowable number is based upon the current U.S.

guidelines, right?

And I'm pretty conscious of it, obviously, being in this space and running this company.

I have not had a day that I'm not at 200%.

Jeez.

It's wild.

And then we were at this Airbnb, this old home.

We were in South Carolina

recording some content with this doctor.

And I'm tripping out the whole time because I'm in the middle of the living room and this thing's beeping while I'm interviewing this guy.

And it's just beeping.

And I'm like, what is going on?

And then, and then in virtually every car, everyone picks on the electric cars.

And again, I go back to like, if you're building products that you know are emitting a large amount of, you know, EMR,

you're typically shielding them.

Like electric cars are built pretty well with shielding because they know that there's an EMF that's outside of the government guidelines already.

So there's a fair amount of shielding.

It doesn't mean that they're safer than the other ones, but I'm just saying the obvious things actually are obvious to the manufacturer as well right it's the i would say it's the vehicles that are not electric when you're sitting in a normal like everyday vehicle that's been built in the last five years and you have an emf reader in there i don't it doesn't matter what's going on it's buzzing wow it's pretty wild and it's you don't even know where it's coming from is it the lte from the car is it the wi-fi from the car is it the batter the the battery that charges your phone by just setting it on the induction charger.

What is it?

And it's pretty wild because you can't escape it.

So now you're in this metal box of just this energy field that's impacting your body in a negative way.

And so when you think about chronic exposure compounding over time, the time you spend in the vehicle is a large part of everyone's day, especially young people, you know, which I don't think we talk enough about, but young people, you know, we were every time we do this test, and the young people react pretty wildly.

The swings are pretty wild.

Older people, I would say 45 and older, just anecdotally, I see they swing, but it's a slower rise up and a slower rise down.

And maybe not as sharp.

And again, that's just anecdotal from the stuff that we've done.

But young people, it's pretty wild.

I wonder what's causing that.

We're just exposed to more devices, maybe.

I think it's maybe the age at which

it was present in your world and and then always on and then growing up, always connected.

And it just kind of, and if you look at the, the, the curve of wireless technology in our environment, it's been exponential.

Like since the 1990s.

Since the 1990s, it's a curve that's like a crazy straight up line because you know, you're, we pick on the phone a lot because it's so close to you and it is, does emit a lot.

Um, but your vacuum is a robot vacuum.

It's like wireless technology and your refrigerator and your washer and dryer and everything is.

It makes me wonder about the impact on the DNA.

And we're running a longitudinal study now,

not my company, but in life.

In life.

On the world,

it's happening in real time.

And data is starting to come out talking about the anxiety generation.

And people in their 20s that have early exposure to

screens at a young age, social media at a young age,

stuff like that.

And what was the impact?

But if you look at EMF exposure,

know, the first cohort to be exposed to it probably didn't have too much of a response

because they didn't have any previous responses.

But DNA is smart.

It knows how to adapt.

The body's adaptive.

So if it's put in a state where it's in danger, it's going to respond and it's going to change itself to be able to survive.

An example of that is,

unfortunately, is like the alcohol abuse in the United States.

If you look at Native American populations, it was discovered in the 1980s, basically, that there was a very strong

alcohol issue

in the Native American culture.

And

there's abuse of alcohol and then there's dependency in alcohol.

Your brain creates dopamine.

And when you drink alcohol, dopamine sees alcohol as a poison.

It doesn't like it.

And so if you drink too much, you get sick, right?

But if you drink to dependence, not abuse, but dependence, where if you don't have it, you have a withdrawal or a seizure or your body's going to react to it.

The body is smart.

It goes, whoa,

you want me to get good with this.

So now I'm not going to make dopamine for you anymore.

It mutates it genetically and creates a new neurotransmitter called THIQ.

Now, THIQ does the exact opposite of what dopamine does.

It doesn't reject alcohol.

It wants more.

Right?

So it would make sense to a substance that the body responds to it, it changes genetically to adapt and survive.

So what's going to happen with this EMF exposure that we have been subjected to and continue to be exposed to with Wi-Fi, 5G, you know, electro-smog around us, our bodies are going to respond.

My biggest concern is when I see data like this,

that you have a a very high sympathetic response,

your body doesn't do the housekeeping.

I think it's going to give rise to more anxiety.

I think it's going to give rise to more systemic illnesses.

I think it's going to give rise to some bizarre stuff that we haven't seen before, like strange autoimmune stuff and sensitivities that make people look crazy because, you know, they're going, God, I'm reacting to everything around me, you know?

And as a psychologist, I kind of raise an eyebrow and go, well, is this real or not and it's starting to look pretty darn real yeah you know and that's scary yeah and you know based on the numbers and the science you know we have some data right here that is is showing us something that we should pay attention to yeah man that's concerning do you want to hit some of the brain stuff so we we talk about the heart which is good because we don't actually talk about the heart stuff all that frequently yeah a lot of stuff we've done with like the ufc uh is I don't know if it's opposite, but they'll usually come in in that vigilant state because they're kind of always on, right?

They're programmed to always be on.

And we see that with the athletes where they're dialed and they have a hard time coming down off of that.

A lot of huge first responders look like that as well.

So the work we've done with the UFC

is similar in the fact that the ability to turn it off and relax and clean the system out like he's described seems to be kind of a

consistent theme.

from the tests that we've done there as well.

So it's kind of fascinating.

Like I said, it runs the

gamut of all the different variations, but it's consistent with the lifestyles that we see too.

So the

basketball player, the pro ball player that was headed at the Olympics this summer from Canada that we tested, same thing.

He just, I think he had a practice.

I don't know if it's a practice.

It was an off day, but they were getting, they were gearing up to play the U.S.

and he came in just dialed, like super focused.

And but he had kind of this issue where being able to come off of that.

So how does he relax?

How did he come off?

Sleep, all these different things don't become effective.

The downstream effects of that uh really start to pile up right that's interesting yeah and also when you travel you're just absorbing a ton of emf too right when you're flying and going everywhere yeah i yeah think about it on an airplane yeah how many cell phones are on an airplane right we were talking about this you know you got a hundred 175 seats at least 150 are holding phones yeah you know and in a very

confined space yeah right and all of them are talking to one router or two routers on that plane.

You know, that's a lot of, that's a lot of concentrated energy.

Yeah.

I can tell you for sure, you know, having a company that develops pulse electromagnetic stimulators, we did a lot of research to determine what would actually make your brain change.

Right.

And, you know, Of course, the goal here is to be able to do it in a healthy way and to cause no harm.

Well, one of the things that we know in neuroscience is that heat is dangerous to cells, right?

You heat up the brain, you're going to cause cellular death.

That's not good, right?

So when we did our first experiments, I designed with the help of my engineers, a device that actually is capable of delivering low frequency, low intensity EMS stimulation for the sole purpose of increasing blood flow.

If you gently stimulate a cell, it will call for resources.

So you get capillary dilation, increased blood flow in the region, and you can reduce inflammation in the brain and bring it more of what it needs to be able to function correctly because it's the best doctor in the room.

Right.

And so we were like, okay, this is a cool idea.

We want to do this.

But when we started to really look at it,

the device actually created a field that was less than what you get when you look in your refrigerator looking for food.

Okay.

So I was thinking, okay, that's pretty good.

Right.

These things are creating a field that is significantly stronger than that.

Right.

And it creates heat.

And prolonged exposure over time is going to impact those structures.

And we know there's research now that shows that the temporal lobes begin to get degraded as a result of cellular exposure.

Holding the phone up to your head is not a good idea.

It is shown to be.

And air clots are worse, right?

Well, they're a lesser of two evils.

Oh, they're not as bad they're not as bad okay um but the uh you know a lot of people just sighed relief on that one because there definitely seems to be like uh an intuition about the air pods like i know it's harming me but they're so convenient it's still bluetooth it's still bluetooth i see it all the time yeah yeah it's still bluetooth and that's what you got to be careful with and then it's also you know wired is is is the next one and then speaker is the best yeah that's that's the way you know hands-free uh is the best way yeah well the good news is now they could just wear some aries and still have those.

Yeah, and I, like I said, if we want to look at those, those

maybe talk through some of the other observations.

Yeah, let's talk about the brain scan.

Yeah, so this is pretty interesting stuff.

So, we have a baseline scan, and then we, and so, what I did was I ran a comparative analysis looking at the baseline versus the first, the second, uh, the first exposure with no protection to see if there was any differences there.

And, um, there are.

Um, and you had the phone up to your right temporal lobe when you did the scan.

And when we look at delta here in your baseline,

the power level of

the delta activity in the right temporal lobe dropped significantly.

We set the p-value at probability level at 0.001.

And so statistic significance is usually at 0.05.

But this is an ultra-conservative setting.

And it was significant at T3, T4 and C4 here on your right temporal lobe.

There's a big drop in delta.

And as I look at this,

it looks like delta activity came down in your frontal lobe as well.

That was with the cell phone?

That was with the cell phone.

So the exposure

definitely

triggered your brain.

And let's see here as I look at it.

And we do see an elevation in gamma activity.

So gamma is a emergent waveform that appears in the brain when you're, you know, when it needs to send information.

And that information is sent between

multiple systems or hub systems in your brain.

Gamma is typically measured between around 40 to about 150 cycles per second or hertz.

And when I look at this scan here, the brain map on the left here shows your baseline.

The one in the middle is

what you look like when you were exposed to the phone with no protection.

And the one on the right shows red or black electrodes.

If the electrode is colored in red, it means it's statistically significant difference from pre to post.

And in this case, all 19 electrodes in the gamma range increase significantly.

Wow.

All 19, 100%.

So what does that mean to him in like real life?

So if so if when beta goes up like this and gamma goes up like this,

you start to experience, experience, you know, it's, it's fast.

It can create anxiety.

That's one of the things that can happen.

You could get really lucid, you know, you could get really clear for a period of time.

But again, it's driving the car in red line.

And what we have found is that typically it's going to create, it can create ruminations, perseverations, you know, obsessive kind of thinking,

you know,

anticipation of other events that are going to occur, fear.

you know, fear is like the root of anxiety.

Yeah.

So, you know, but

typically it's going to create an anxious response.

That's what we see here.

So delta is your brake pedal, right?

So delta going down and the higher frequencies going up is not a good combination.

A healthy brain is a balanced brain.

So when you look at all the frequency bands that the brain creates, delta, theta, alpha, beta, high beta, gamma, you want to see

a nice distribution of that, right with alpha being the the predominant amount of of brain wave that you should see in a resting state right well it did come up but everything came up here so the distribution wasn't a healthy increase

that that's what we saw from from baseline to to the first one and then what when we actually have the aries product on um what interestingly enough happened is your your your um your delta um evened out and the alpha came up in your frontal lobe

and it really did um come up in a healthy way both frontally and occipitally so in the back of your head as well wow yeah that's good let's talk about that because that was when we were off camera we're talking about alpha there's it's a it's a unique it's unique in some instance so talk to us about that so people with different kinds of disorders don't produce um a lot of frontal alpha or temporal lobe alpha and um

in your case, it did come up.

And, you know, so people diagnosed with autism or ADHD or, you know, those kinds of diagnoses, the power levels are typically lower in those populations.

It's one of the profiles that we see here.

Now, when you look at the baseline here and you look at

the impact of

no protection with Aries on, Aries actually seemed to restore the power level in your in your right temporal lobe.

Wow.

Yeah.

It actually brought up the power level.

And so, well, it didn't do it.

Your brain did it.

It may have protected you so that it wasn't being pushed down.

So, you know, when you have that phone up there, your brain's responding to it.

And if something's mitigating that exposure, then your brain's going to go back to functioning normally.

You know, your editors are going to have fun putting all these screenshots up, chasing him around with the language.

But

I think in summary, though, like I said, it's consistent with the other things we've seen.

It's unique in his

own case.

And I think that that alpha one

is interesting.

But

I kind of,

we've done this a lot now.

And sometimes it's hard because what does it actually mean to you?

Like, what does it actually, how does it affect your life?

And again, part of the tapes I wouldn't even know, right?

But you also don't know that a negative thing is occurring either.

And so, again, you don't know until something breaks.

And that's kind of what Dr.

Dogris has, you know, educated me a little bit on is, because I, I get frustrated sometimes because, you know, I'm, I am a healthy person for the most part.

Um, and I don't know that EMF or EMR is affecting me on a day-to-day basis, right?

But when you see the data, you're like, well, I don't want to live like that either.

So if I'm trying to live optimally and, you know, I'm doing all these other things, I'm drinking my, you know, hydrogen water, I'm drinking, I'm getting red light therapy or cold therapy, whatever all these different modalities that you're testing and trying.

I position Aries for a lot of people as this is another way to just optimize the environment around you that we're spending so much time in.

Like think about where you're sleeping.

Right.

You, you mentioned, you know, you, you do things to optimize sleep.

And most people do these days because we're so, it's such a problem.

Sleep is such a problem.

And nobody's pointing to the cell phone as much, except for athletes.

I will tell you, athletes know they're the first ones that will tell you the cell phone is out of of the room or turned off completely.

Almost every athlete that's had a long career will

tell you they have a strategy around mitigating EMF and EMR exposure.

Wow.

And it's like you read Tom Brady's book, you read, you know, Novak's book, all these guys have a strategy around this.

And because I think there's a sensitivity to it.

And when you're an athlete, you're super tuned.

to all the inputs.

You know what's happening in your environment.

So,

you know, we we think of Aries as a way to optimize your environment, to clear your environment.

We did that deal with the Timberwolves, for example, and created the first

EMF-friendly arena in the world with the Timberwolves.

Well, the whole arena?

The whole arena.

Well, we're working on it.

We have the concourse.

We have most of the areas with a media room.

We have the draft room, which I'm super stoked on because you have the NBA draft coming up when the war room will be EMF.

They need an interior designer in there first.

That's what what I keep telling them.

I go in here and I'm feeling like I'm in a casino, but um, but it, but yeah, it's we have EMF, um, uh, you know, our product in there to mitigate the EMF, uh, their training rooms and things like that.

So, we're continuing to roll it out.

But what's interesting was you're in the arena, you see these 5G base stations that say millimeter wave on them, like they're giant too, and they're like very visible.

And uh, I had this weird thought.

I'm like, it's so interesting that, like, as humans and users of technology, we'll do everything to increase our bandwidth.

If you measure my bandwidth, I'm like mad.

Yeah.

Right.

But we're not thinking about the optimization on the biology side.

And so that's what's really cool about this is we're able to kind of manage both the bandwidth and still optimize for that while also protecting the biology side.

And I think that's what's really cool about this area certified space stuff that we're doing with the Timberwolves is kind of our first big, you know, moment.

The stuff we do with like the UFC and the performances too, which is, you know, here in Vegas,

just the idea of like

lighting is becoming a big deal, like circadian light, lighting.

And again, your environment, what are we doing to enhance and optimize our environment?

And then

temperature control, even when you're sleeping, like it's all these different things that we think about air filters and water filters to optimize our environment.

And I think of Aries as another one of those things to improve the environment that we're functioning in.

And not, we get, you know, obviously we're this idea of this protection product as well.

I just think that's a, that's sometimes a negative connotate.

Like you automatically think, okay, if I need protection, that means something negative has happened to me.

And I don't think most healthy people think that way.

I think they're like, how do I just feel better, get better optimized?

And I think that's a better way to look at like our technology and what we do is it's really giving your body the best chance at doing everything very, very well.

Right.

It's, and so it's eliminating the things that are harmful, but more than anything, it's creating

the best electromagnetic environment for your body to function in.

Yeah, I love that.

So, that being said, when you saw the Linus Tech video, what do you think was going on there?

Because that seemed to be a hit piece.

I don't know what exactly happened.

Yeah.

You know, that stuff always like that, that initial response when you get attacked in that way is like, you get emotional, you get upset.

My initial reaction, though, was like, he's really good.

Like his content production, his storytelling.

You can't deny that.

You can't deny it.

And I was like, dude, this is really good.

He's funny too.

And I thought it was really funny.

What, what, uh, then I kind of take a step back and I kind of assess things.

And right away, the, the fact that he tested us as if we were blocking EMF, I was just like, I felt, I'm like, dude, that you're completely like off the mark.

Like, we don't block.

Like our whole business model is around.

the ability to continue to function in an environment where EMF is present.

Right.

Because blocking it is a

task that you will, it's a, it's something you will never win.

You will never win that battle.

And

he was using, I think, an EMF reader and he had all this production value that was really cool.

But like at the end of the day, it was just wrong.

It was just straight up, like, not what we do.

But part of me also is empathy because I think a lot of people approach it that way with a lack of understanding.

Because we are talking about like complex physics and wave interactions that

it's just not the average.

Most people don't have that level of knowledge to even understand

wave theory and the physics behind EMF and EMR,

let alone what's happening at the biological and physiological level, or even the psychological level.

Like,

so that inner, that inner, the way that he approached it was just very simplistic and completely wrong.

And I felt bad about that because I don't know him personally,

but I actually do, if he spent the time and we did a test with him like we did with you, or

I'm like talk to, you know, our, our head of photonics and the universities that that helped develop these things um for decades by the way and have a conversation with them because he's a smart guy too line is a smart guy uh

and he realized that actually he potentially prevented people from getting the relief that they needed uh because there are a lot of people that are hypersensitive to emf and you see a lot of people in your practice yeah where emf is a real problem and Aries is a legitimate solution that actually helps people.

I just have some empathy there.

And

I think a lot of people, look,

we're popular.

People know us in this space, at least, I should say.

So when you're in that seat, I expect it.

It was unfortunate because I also feel like he has the platform to actually do good.

And I think with the right information, I actually believe he would do good.

And so my hope is some, you know, at some point,

we have the chance to actually set the record straight.

But at the same time, like, you know, he's, he's in the business of creating content that entertains and gets people to watch.

And he did that.

So he accomplishes his goal for sure.

Yeah, I hope you guys can mend the bridge one of these days.

You know, if you took this test and saw results, I think he might change his mind.

Yeah, I think, I also think that in our space, this category of EMF protection, which is, again, I try to.

I'll work on the language and how we kind of move away from that idea of EMF protection because truthfully, there are a lot of bad players.

So I actually understand, like, because I'm very empathetic, like I know where people are coming from.

I understand the skepticism because there are a lot of bad players.

Mostly bad players.

Yeah, stickers on Amazon.

100%.

EMF protection stickers.

Or the idea of even blocking.

Like I actually have a really hard time with the blocking products or anyone that's using the SAR testing.

There's a particular laboratory in Southern California that pretty much anybody can go to and get a test done.

And they'll almost always produce a positive result for you.

And the idea is, is you have your test subject here, you have your source of EMF here, and you put something in the middle of it.

And it's this linear

action that's occurring.

And of course, it's going to block or it's going to mitigate in some way.

But that's actually not the world that we live in.

Like EMF is all around us, it's three-dimensional.

So when you think about blocking, so for example, you buy a phone case that says it blocks, you put it up to your head, it's actually

amplifying the EMF and it's reflecting it because

it's on both sides of the wall, but it's reflecting off of it.

So if it truly is blocking, it's actually going to amplify the like a backboard, like you're throwing a ball off the backboard.

It's coming back at you.

It has nowhere to go except back again.

So you're actually amplifying it.

And I would tell people, if you really think that your blocking products are working, your cell phone would stop working.

You know, I have a big issue with the blockers.

Yeah.

You know, I mean,

our EEG amplifier, in order to get FDA cleared, you have to do electrical safety testing.

And part of that testing is EMC testing.

So you get electromagnetic, you know, and they're looking for leakage and all sorts of stuff.

And, you know, they're talking to these engineers, you know, we have RF engineers that, you know.

My guy is over 30 years of experience doing it.

And we talked about blockers and he kind of laughed.

He goes, it's the biggest scam out there.

He said, because there's only certain kind of metals that will actually block it.

And the U.S.

military has those metals.

They don't, it's not something that's easily accessible by the general population or companies.

And it's incredibly expensive.

So a blocker is going to probably not exist.

Or, you know, when people say they're using something, there's only certain kind of metals that'll stop EM.

You know, and other than that.

Yeah.

You know,

it goes through everything

seamlessly.

It goes through your brain seamlessly.

It goes through your skull seamlessly.

People get on board with blocking because logically they can explain it to themselves.

They understand blocking.

And, but the reality is, even if we, let's say, you're wearing a hat that, that quote unquote blocks.

Well, what happens?

Because the EMF is all around me.

So what's happened as it's in my body and conducting because your body's electric and that energy is being produced and running through your whole body.

And then now you have a lid on it.

Where is it going?

Like it's going back down again.

Like, it's just, it's an interesting concept that is easy to sell, I think.

And so I do caution people on that because the other thing you'll notice too is if you, if you have a blocking case or, or a bag or whatever you put your phone in, how hot that gets, there's a reason why it gets so hot because the technology is sophisticated enough where it starts to concentrate the signal.

And it intensifies it because it's trying to get signal.

So the tower is intensifying and your phone's intensifying trying to get signal.

That's why your phone is heating up.

And so now you have actual temperature from the phone, regardless of EMF, but just the phone itself getting hot, which if you're talking about, let's say, a male and your phone's in your pocket getting hot,

any change in temperature to that region will impact your reproductive system.

And that's known, right?

I mean, your body's built to actually adapt to heat changes and things like that.

And even a degree or two, impacts that.

And we talked about the brain already.

So any change in temperature,

regardless of the source of temperature or why it's changing, will have a negative impact.

And so I just think people should be very cautious on

blockers.

And that's not me trying to promote my own product.

I'm just saying we're big advocates on doing your own research.

And

we're a publicly traded company.

You can find us using the

ticker symbol Wi-Fi.

That's a good ticker.

I say that because it's kind of, it's funny, actually, but

we're very transparent because we are public.

Most of of these other companies, well, almost every company in the wellness space doesn't have to go through the amount of regulation and scrutiny that we do.

And so I can't say certain things.

I can't do certain things.

So we put a lot of information out there on how to help people educate themselves, whether they buy our product or not.

I just want them to have the education.

So to me, talking about the blocking, it's such an easy thing to get tricked into.

Or some of these other products that have third-party validation or things like that.

Third party validation is maybe like the low level of science.

And maybe you can speak to science and papers and things like that.

You know, we go through the peer-reviewed process, the

peer-reviewed, then published process.

And then we had to do it all again in different countries

because we're traded in the US, Europe, and Canada.

And so ours has been rigorously in like the scrutiny on our stuff has been pretty great.

Three years and millions of dollars just to get through that process,

let alone build the product and technology.

So, so I know what we've gone through.

And so, we put it all out there.

Like, our patents are out there, which by the way, we just got the U.S.

patent granted officially.

So, we're super stoked on that.

But, yeah, so I just like to do your research.

People need to really understand that.

Understand the problem too.

Well, you know, it's again, you know, if you have a blocker,

the heart is an electromagnetic device.

You can measure a human heart from across a room.

Wow.

There's so much

power that comes out of the heart.

And so

this mechanism here is capable of detecting

energy around you.

So if you're thinking that this thing's going to block

everything that's around you and your heart is constantly,

I think, energetically, our bodies are interacting with our environment all the time, you know?

And so it just isn't logical that a blocker is going to stop all that.

Yeah.

You know, I've seen that theory that we have these energy fields, right?

Have you guys seen that?

Where it expands like five to 10 feet?

Yeah.

I don't know if it's that far.

I've seen,

there's a company that's actually out of Russia.

A doctor created this device called BioWell.

I really dig it because it's a camera that can take pictures of your fingers.

And it actually shows the light field that's coming out of each one of your fingers.

Whoa.

And it's pretty wild.

But so he constructed this theory about, it's based on like acupuncture points.

Each of the fingers is going to correspond to different parts of the body.

And they construct this three-dimensional map of your body field, essentially.

And people say that it's anywhere from six to 12 inches.

That's what they say in terms of

what's emanating from us.

Interesting.

There's not a lot understood about it you know and and i'd love to see science go in that direction because we're going to have to you know i don't think that you know obviously any of this technology is going to go away it's going to continue to grow and it's become our mainstay it's what we use all the time day in and day out well now they're talking about 6g right that's like the next one yeah that's you know and so i i think you know instead of being scared about it we should be proactive about it and come up with ways to be able to create healthy environments you know this is one of the ways to do that yeah and that's why i'm here because i'm interested in that and you know and my patient population um has done better because of that yeah and so you know i've seen it from a scientific point of view and now i've seen it from a clinical point of view yeah and you know it's when a person can relax more that has an anxiety disorder man are they thankful absolutely yeah yeah

the uh

the the space is littered with a lot of you know bad players a lot of misleading information a lot of pseudoscience a lot of uh just kind of trickery and and so i'm i'm very conscious of that and trying to surround myself with more and more professionals that are that are in in feet on the ground working with with patients dealing with this integrating our product product and getting real-time feedback from them is really a big part of what we do working with with like people like the UFC.

By the way, you know, we had to do a lot of work with the Performance Institute.

It wasn't like we showed up and it was just like, oh, yeah, come bring, you know, whatever.

It's, there's, it's, it's not like that.

And so, I mean, you, you actually went with me to the performance.

We sat with Duncan French and Roman and these guys that run this have a massive responsibility.

We did some really cool tests with them to really demonstrate in a more sophisticated way than what we did today and to really help them understand.

I think a lot of a lot of things, not just about our product, but also just the, how the, the, the body works on a frequency level.

And so as you're saying, like getting doing more of that, and there's a lot of products out there, the PMF mats, the grounding mats.

The FDA has approved EMF products for bone and wound healing for decades.

So it's not like a new thing.

Bone and muscle stimulators.

Yeah.

Interesting.

And there's, well, EMF is a transcranial magnetic stimulation as well.

Yeah.

For the brain.

So it's been around for a long time.

And so the only thing I ask you, like, you you know, while I'm here, because a lot of people do ask us how it works, if, because we've had some conversations in the past, you've talked to my team.

But, but if that's of interest to you, I can give you a quick overview of that because I know that what separates us, what makes us different.

But you tell me what yeah, let's end off with that and we'll end off with closing comments from the doctor.

Cool, cool.

Yeah.

So,

you know, the

one thing that I would really kind of call out right away is, this is a technology.

And so we're actually using a similar technology to how emf is created how it's transmitted how it's processed and and converted into to usable information um our product is very similar in the fact that we're using a a silicon resonator or a semiconductor which is at the center of it and it you know when you see it you can hold it up and you can actually see like

different shapes emitting from that uh that center resonator and what those are are fractals so it's a fractal design and fractals are a geometric phenomenon that allows essentially infinite scale.

So without increasing area,

has like an essentially an infinite perimeter that's not exactly accurate.

But the idea being like,

there's a really cool video.

It's like three minutes long from MIT of this girl explaining fractals.

This idea that you can just keep zooming in and zooming like a snowflake.

It just repeats the shape over and over and over again.

And so the reason why I use fractals and fractal antennas have been around for a long time.

and that's how cell phones communicate.

It's how you can get broadband communications across many, many signals.

So, our fractal takes the ambient EMF that's emitted by our technologies.

And since silicon is extremely conductive, it's super sensitive to the electricity, that energy has to go somewhere.

So, as it's interacting with this semiconductor center here, this resonator,

it's reshaped to create a stable field.

So, it's re-emitted.

So, again, the energy has to go somewhere.

It's

absorbed by this silicon wafer here, then re-emitted into a shape that we've designed based upon the specific geometry.

So now you have this

field that's created that is tuned specifically over a wide range of frequencies that the body's resonating with.

And it's stable, it's coherent, and it's depolarized.

So what that means is, as it's interacting now with this man-made EMF, it's able to

spread that energy over a wider range of frequencies while also stimulating the body's own frequencies.

So it's kind of a dual effect of the reduction in the ambient EMF and also the, because it's really pulsing is a really a big problem too with the man-made EMF or the, from our technologies.

So to be able to distribute over a wide range of frequencies

really diminishes the effect.

And then through a bunch of other processes of destructive and interference and constructive interference, it changes that overall field.

And then at the same time, there has a tuning effect within the body's own field.

So that's why you see in a lot of these tests that we do or these demonstrations that

oftentimes you improve over baseline is because it's actually having a resonant effect at the physiological level in addition to mitigating.

that interference that's occurring.

So that's a really rough overview, but there's a whole bunch of scientific principles

layered in there that are well understood.

There really is no mystical or woo-woo science about what we do.

It's pretty basic.

It's a printed circuit board with a specific geometric pattern on there that modulates frequencies and diffracts the waves to reduce the effect and then re-emits it.

So

I think people try to make it more complicated than it really is.

Not saying that physics isn't complicated, but

they want to make it more mystical because so many of the other products, I think, play in that space, if that makes sense yeah i could see that doctor any closing comments well you know just to kind of dovetail into that i i it's interesting

the body does not respond well to square waves we know that um

actually

uh we developed a 15 kilohertz biphasic square wave that we use for vagus nerve stimulation and for cranial stimulation and it has one purpose to disrupt the system.

And if it's used in a very low frequency, it can disrupt the system enough so that it actually resets itself.

All right.

Now, when you see a disruptive system and we look at it in the spectra in the EEG, we can see what it looks like.

And when we look at the, you know, these scans and we see the Aries effect,

the spectra actually gets more organized.

It doesn't get more destructive.

It doesn't get more

diffuse, essentially, but it gets sharper.

And And that's what happened with you.

And so, you know, I'm looking at this alpha peak here, and I'm going, wow, this is really great.

You know,

it took you in the direction you need to go, not in the one that's going to

make it more difficult for you to function.

All right.

I love it.

Well, thanks so much, guys.

That was really insightful.

And we'll link Aries in the description if people want to look into it.

Yeah, we appreciate you, man.

I love the work that you're doing.

Absolutely.

Thanks, guys.

And I'll see you at WrestleMania, right?

Yeah.

All right.

Check them out, guys.

So we conducted a test with Mr.

Sean Kelly.

We have three conditions.

Condition number one was baseline, where we measured his brain using a FDA-cleared electroencephalogram made from the company Neurofield Incorporated called the Q21.

Also used an FDA-cleared software called Neurofield Analysis to measure his brain.

This is the result of the comparison from this test.

In the first condition, we took five minutes of brainwave data just to have a baseline.

Then we stopped the EEG device and we called his phone and we had him hold the phone up to his right ear for approximately five minutes.

And then we ended the call, took the phone away, and then started the EEG measurement again.

and measured five more minutes of brainwave data.

Upon completing that recording,

we called his phone again, but this time

we placed an Aries device on his phone and had him hold it up to his right ear again.

And we did so for five minutes.

At the end of that five minutes, we ended the call, took the phone away, and then measured the brain again.

It's important to note that the phone was taken away.

during the EEG recordings so as to ensure that there was no

artifact that could distort the signal or change the data that we were measuring.

So what you're seeing here is a comparison from the

first exposure with no Aries device on the phone

to the second exposure where there is an Aries device.

So the P1P is the phone with no protection.

and the live call with no protection and the the that's the purple line and the green line is the phone with protection.

Now as you look at these plots you'll notice these little spectrum it says spectrum and FP1, FP2.

These are all site locations from the EEG cap.

We use the International 1020 system to identify the sites and so you see F3, F4, the F stands for frontals and then there's central, parietal, occipitals, temporals.

Now in this recording,

on the horizontal axis, you'll see little black hash marks in the axis there.

Any part of the axis that is painted in black represents a statistical significant difference from pre to post at the probability level set at 0.001,

which is a very conservative setting to distinguish change statistically.

And one of the notable things that we saw here from pre to post almost immediately is that in the 10 hertz band, which is the alpha band

there is a significant increase in in alpha from pre to post and remember this post represents that the aries device was present and the pre is not so it suggests that there's a you know obviously a huge difference here

right afterwards and typically when somebody has an exposure to a cell phone the same trend continues to happen you don't see a sharp increase in in alpha from pre-to-post in these kinds of conditions you're also seeing some varied increases in the higher frequency bands as we look at this so if i go through every one of the site locations this is central three and four right left side of the of the head here

we have significant increases in in power across the board from pre-to-post suggesting that something did change here when the Aries device was placed on the phone.

Now, having a good healthy amount of frontal alpha in a resting condition like this is very good.

It's our idling frequency that we make when we just relax.

And so, a deficiency in alpha can be associated with issues like anxiety, focus, concentration issues.

There can be all sorts of issues that are associated with that.

Also, neurodegenerative and neurodevelopmental issues are also associated with deficiencies in alpha

so when we look down the midline here again every one of the plots shows this market increase now another way of looking at this is also in the head maps now the brain creates a whole bunch of different frequencies and these are speeds delta is in the one to four hertz band and represents a frequency that's very slow typically you make delta when you sleep

but you also make it when you're awake awake.

All these frequencies are made all the time, but they are state-dependent.

So if you have an excess of delta,

when your eyes are open, that can create brain fog, difficulty with concentration, attention focus.

Same with theta.

So these are top-down views here with the nose being in the front, right ear, and then left ear.

And what you see here is the map on the left here is the phone exposure with

no Aries present.

And the second one is a phone exposure with the Aries device on the phone.

The map on the right is the statistical comparison.

If the electrode is colored in red, that means it met the probability cutoff of 0.001

and was significantly different from pre- to post.

If the electrode is in black, that means it is not significantly different at the 0.001 level.

Now it might be significant at 0.01 or 05, which is still considered statistically significant.

Now we set the bar pretty high here because we really want to kind of challenge and see whether or not we actually see big differences.

And one of the notable changes here is that

with the amount of delta here drops when the Aries device is on the phone.

And it's right in the frontal lobes here.

You can see these electrodes here are are colored in red.

There's a pretty significant drop in power in the delta band.

And if you look at this legend here, what this represents is microvolts.

So these are very tiny amounts of power that come out of the brain, millionths of a volt, basically.

And so

if you look at the color on the legend, you can get an idea that the redder it is, the higher the power it is.

The bluer it is, the lower the power.

so it looks like

you know you can see that the the phone was over the right temporal lobe and you can see that there's there's a pretty big difference here in the amount of delta that was produced from pre to post when a person has their eyes open and they have phone exposure

the theta band also had this very similar type of finding here that the Aries device may have been associated with a decrease in both both the delta and theta

that was you know

in one way or another mitigated when the device is on the phone.

Interestingly, like I noted before, the amount of alpha power goes up.

And you can see that it's global.

There is a global increase in alpha from pre to post here and all these three different types of alpha that are measured.

Alpha 1 is 8 to 10 hertz, alpha 2 is 10 to 12 hertz, and alpha itself is the full band from 8 to 12.

So when we look at this, you can see that there is a significant increase in the alpha band power for Sean when he had the Aries tech device on the phone.

Now that that's

a pretty remarkable change here, and you can also see in the temporal lobe here,

it appears that there's a real dropout in the power.

and and when the Aries device was on the phone it prevented that from

impacting the temporal lobe the way that we predict it would the literature has been pretty clear that

you know cell phone exposure over time can cause damage to the brain and so

in its damage that's associated with the radiation that comes off the phone and the amount of heat that's generated in the brain on cellular structures that don't tolerate heat well and will die off over time from repeated exposure and long exposures.

So it's pretty remarkable that in the resting state

alpha goes up and we see that in

all the alpha bands and then in the beta bands it's a little bit of a drop here but again the right temporal lobe has beta come up.

Now again you want this to happen

because beta is the frequency that allows you to focus and concentrate.

If you don't have enough beta, then it's hard to have get up and go.

It's hard to remain and sustain focus, concentration, and attention.

Too much of it can create racing thoughts and difficulty sitting still and anxiety and stuff like that.

But when you have a good balanced amount, then

it's healthy and it allows you to

get stuff done.

So when we look at this, we see, again, this temporal lobe beta appears to come up

as a result of

the Aries device being on the phone mitigating the radiation coming out of the phone.

So that's a very interesting finding across the board.

Okay.

Okay, so here we have a screen that shows us heart rate variability.

The way we calculate that is we look at the

beat of the heart and we look at the peak of every heartbeat and we look at the distance between those heartbeats.

And it's called the SDNN.

We want to see the variability between those heartbeats.

And so the standard deviation from normal to normal beat is what's typically measured in milliseconds.

Now the heart has four frequency bands that can be measured.

There's ULF, VLF, LF, and HF.

The LF and HF bands have been described in the literature as being the two arms of the autonomic nervous system.

The LF is sympathetic, and so that's the band where you're getting up and getting going.

It's your getting busy band, basically.

Then you have the HF band, which is the parasympathetic band.

And that band is your laying in the hammock and relaxing.

Now, during this recording, Sean was just relaxing, and he wasn't doing anything.

He wasn't under task, so to speak.

And so when he did that, what you can see here is a pretty even distribution.

He's a little bit more relaxed than he is sympathetic.

And that's the way you should see somebody

when they're relaxing.

So in the next test, he held the phone up to his head for five minutes, and then we waited a minute, and then we shut off the phone, took it away from him, and we did another EEG recording and another recording of the heart.

And he went from this balanced state to

this state, which is obviously a big difference.

His,

you know, the LF sympathetic band went up significantly and the HF band dropped a little bit.

Didn't change too much, but it dropped a little bit.

He definitely appears to have been more activated by having the phone by his head for five minutes.

Now, sympathetic activation is not a bad thing.

You know, you need to be able to do that when you're getting ready to do something or need to mobilize yourself.

However, if this is what's happening when you're in a passive state and you're holding a phone up to your head, it may not be good for you for that to be happening.

So, you know, that raises concern for me.

The other thing is, is that his SDNN went up significantly from baseline.

It popped up to 120.23 milliseconds.

Normal is over 50 milliseconds.

So it went up a lot.

His heart became more varied and more sympathetic as compared to the way he looked in baseline, where he was more relaxed like this, and his heart rate variability was 94.64.

So after we did that test, that was pretty interesting.

We waited a little bit, and then we called his phone again, but this time we placed an Aries device on the phone, and we had him hold it up to his head for five minutes, and then we stopped, hung up the phone, and then did another measurement and took a look and it's really interesting here because this is what he looked like with Aries protection

massive swing parasympathetic swing off the chart

he got really relaxed after that phone went away with the Aries tech device on the phone which is really interesting i would have expected the the opposite to happen here i would have expected increase in the lf band with continued exposure to the phone um and and and not a flip like this into a parasympathetic state also his SDNN went down to 74.98 and remember normal is over 50 so he he went down towards 50 which is good

you know he is somebody that does engage in exercise so having an SDNN like this is good

which means his heart's elastic it can it can handle stress it can stretch when he needs it to and that's what you want to have happen heart rate variability has been shown in the research to be associated with heart attacks.

If it goes, if you have a heart rate variability less than 10 milliseconds, then you're at risk for one.

So, obviously, he is not.

But this is a pretty interesting finding.

So, when you look at it,

he's much more relaxed with the Aries device on the phone as compared to when there is no protection on the phone, like this.

Pretty interesting stuff.