How Twitch Transformed My Life After Breaking Bad | Luis Moncada DSH #1362

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How did we grow up so messed up the way we are?

Tucco, man, part of the cartel was Tuco, Lalo, Theo Hector, myself.

How did Guz get involved in the cartel?

Because Guz is a complete different, you know, he could actually be a real businessman for the Boyos Armanos chain, right?

He could have succeeded doing good, but he chose to go in the cartel rap and start doing bad stuff.

All right, guys, Luis here.

One of my favorite shows of all time, man.

It's an honor.

Thanks for coming on today.

Thank you for having me, my friend.

Yeah, you were part of history, man.

A lot of people got Breaking Bad in their top 10 all time.

100%.

I'm blessed and honored, my friend.

I was part of the biggest show ever, Breaking Bad, right?

Yeah.

And then four years later to be part of Better Call Saw, it's a blessing.

Yeah.

It's a blessing.

And it's rare to have not only one show, but two hit shows.

Tell you the truth, I was scared when they announced that they were going to film Better Call Saw because you know how it says Breaking Bad ended perfect.

Yeah.

Top rated show ever.

It was the greatest show ever, but people consider it most people.

And I was happy.

I'm great.

I was part of it.

And they announced Better Call Saul and I'm thinking, oh no, you know how they make that prequel or sequel and it ruins the show.

It never goes well.

I was nervous.

It never goes well.

I can't think of one time where the sequel was as good or better.

Yeah, no.

And

I saw the first few episodes and think, okay, this is great.

You know, and even happier when they, I did not work first season i worked on second season better called saw and i was i was just

so happy bro they called me including it it ended up being better for me as an actor than breaking bad because they gave me more episodes more love they give more screen time it was just great and i knew half of the crew was the same crew from breaking bad so when i went to film in new mexico i felt like i was going home

i was going to see all my family oh it takes me 20 minutes before i get to set because i have to say hi to everybody they're all my friends.

Good people, cool.

How close were you with the cast off camera?

I'm really close to some, and some kind of like, you know, we don't talk like I don't talk to Brian, but every time I see him, it's he's a gentleman, he's a busy man.

Yeah, Aaron is the same.

I've done a couple of things with Aaron.

I, after breaking bad, we did like a giveaway.

I met up at his house, did a thing, but we don't stay in touch like that.

Now, with Dean, I'm closer with Dean.

I was really close to Mark Morgolis.

Tucco, Revan Cruz.

I did the video game with him uh and i worked with him before but yeah with him i'm closer and then good friends rj is a good friend max arcienica crazy eight uh victor the guy that played victor those guys you know i i kept in touch with a lot of people and behind the the

uh you know behind the camera people i have more friends i think i love them you know the producers and and just

you know, PAs, DAs, assistant directors.

I made so many good people like that.

And I've stayed in touch with a lot of them.

Even Even

the transportation.

Really?

They're good friends, good friends.

They were good people, bro.

Yeah.

That's how you know it's a good show and you're still talking years later.

Yeah.

Oh, yeah.

We've stayed in touch with all of them, get texts from New Mexico.

Hey, man, when you come, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

Or they come, hey, we're here.

Great people, man.

It was just a blessing.

That show was really a blessing.

At the same time, though, kind of cursed me on the acting world.

A lot of people don't see me beyond Breaking Bad.

Not to mention a show.

I wanted to get on the show as a serious regular.

And my agent requested an audition for this show.

The producer said, oh, no, we can't see Lewis.

Why?

Why can't you see?

He's too breaking bad.

And I was like, what does that mean?

What is too breaking bad?

You know, he, you know, to like the breaking bad character to the assassin, the mean guy,

too breaking bad.

I was like, wow, it's okay.

At the same time, it gave me a lot of good opportunities.

I'm here.

Yeah.

The video game, a lot of other opportunities.

So I'm thankful.

You see that with certain shows and movies, like with Harry Potter, it was hard for him to get acting roles after Harry Potter, the main actor.

Yeah.

True.

I wonder what happens with certain movies and shows.

People just identify you as that one person.

Yeah, I think for Breaking Bad characters, but you have to think of this, right?

Brian Crenston.

Brian Crenston is an amazing actor.

He was on Malcolm in the Middle Before.

He did X-Files a couple of episodes, and he's done The Judge and Godzilla, a lot of movies.

But everybody, if you ask him, hey, who is that guy?

That's Heisenberg from Breaking Bad.

They're not going to see that's the guy from Godzilla or your honor.

That's Heisenberg or Walter White from Breaking Bad.

Even he gets it, but he, of course, has a lot of other stuff going.

You know, it's like Giancarlos Posito is the same.

He's on Mandalorian and a bunch of other movies after Betty Carl Saw and Breaking Bad.

But everybody knows him as Gus Frank.

The best lawyer in town.

It's crazy.

It's crazy.

What did you learn from Brian Cranston?

What was the biggest takeaway you picked up from him?

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His acting.

I was blessed to.

So it was my brother's first job, right?

Just a little bit of that.

And he was nervous when we were on set.

And I remember one time specifically, we were done filming our stuff with my brother and Brian and Aaron came to do a scene.

And I told my brother, hey, let's stay here, watch what they do.

This is going to be a masterclass in acting.

Brother, we stay there, we watch

just what they were doing, the chemistry that we're doing and how prepared, how professional they were.

It was beautiful.

After that, Brian came and told my brother this.

He knows Brian directed our first episode.

So he kind of knew my brother was never worked before.

And what I learned, as I took it with my brother, was Brian told him, look, what you need to do, Daniel, you need to go to acting school.

And even after years, he said, I've been acting more over 30 years and I still have a coach.

Keep working your mind.

It's a muscle.

Keep acting and always keep doing.

And even if you're a working actor, you work so much.

Always have that coach and always go practice.

Always go do things with your coach to keep this sharp.

So I was like, wow, that's amazing.

You know,

I always do the same.

Even if I'm not working, I will do something, memorize some stuff.

Keep your mind sharp.

Yeah.

You know, so taking it from the man, I was like, this, this is great advice.

Always be a student, no matter what level you get to.

Yes, 100%.

He's 30 years in and he still has a coach.

That's very impressive mindset.

But it shows not a lot of people make it in acting that long, right?

No, and look at him.

He's still going.

Amazing, amazing actor, bro.

Yeah.

So that was a big take for me that keep it going.

Always study.

Being a student always and grow open-minded always.

You're always going to learn something.

Absolutely.

Wow, I didn't know that was your brother's first gig.

What a first gig to have.

First gig.

Crazy.

It was great because the characters characters didn't have a lot of a lot of dialogue that's true yeah and if we had any it was in spanish and then my brother had even less dialogue but this was a on-purpose thing the producers knew so whatever dialogue they gave him one little thing just to test the water and and and i had the but it was it was great because of that no dialogue he just had to do the facial expression you convey a lot with your looks and doing but it's harder to deliver lines and do the same thing with this so it was a great gig for him and after that one time that we watched brian cranston do that scene he would take it upon himself you know to hear to see how people do all their stuff to you know behind the camera and in front of the camera you know because you have to learn both both i think you know so it broke was a blessing yeah did good yeah you guys had to speak a lot with your body language and your facial expressions 100 not with words yeah yeah but you even without speaking much uh verbally you guys still appeared scary on the show 100 you know what i mean i feared you guys as as a viewer yeah when vince gilligan told us about the characters, first, we auditioned, we couldn't audition for the characters we played because if you think about it, we didn't say much on the show.

So the audition, imagine the audition for the show, but we go to the show.

Hey, Louis, Daniel, come.

And the audition, we sit and we start and we just stare.

Yeah.

So that wouldn't work.

So what we did, I didn't know at the time, we did two scenes from when Brian Cranston, when Gus met.

Walter at Pollos Armanos for the first time.

That was a good scene.

That was the scene when they were seeing it.

When Gus was standing, how now I can work with you because you know your partner is a junk.

You know, what that scene is the one we auditioned.

I was playing Gus.

So when I did it the whole time, I'm thinking I'm going to be Gus.

I didn't, I never, you know, I didn't know what it was.

So I'm thinking I'm going to be Gus.

But once we get to New Mexico, we meet with Vince Gilling and he goes, Louis, Danny, I asked him, No, that's not that, no, you're not, you're playing this character.

He said, look, you're going to be the scariest, the meanest.

When you come on screen, Louis, oh man, people are going to shake.

They're going to be like, oh my God, something bad is going to happen and he said King Kong got nothing on you and you're not gonna say anything and I was like yeah come again bro you want me to do all that and I say anything he was like yes

I was like okay and bro it worked wow that dude is a genius it worked me I was like okay you want me to do all that

it worked you gotta put your ego to the side a little bit

I did I better call saw there was a scene I don't know if you I'm sure everybody's seen it when I say um

buy fascia like they got too easy, right?

No, no, I want him alive.

I want him, but I said, vivo.

I wanted to say, and it was on the script, he said, I want him alive.

Like, I wanted that guy alive with nitro.

And I did it the first time.

And he said, hmm.

He said, that's a lot for your character.

Can you make all that into one word?

So I made it into, instead of, I want him alive, I'll just say in Spanish,

vivo.

And he said, perfect.

Less is more.

He's huge on that, bro.

less is more wow yeah it's crazy i just me i i i follow what he says because that works i love that man

what do you think next after saw you think there'll be another one

man brother

i'm just gonna say this brother there was um something else written not for vince gilligan let's just say another actor wrote something you know that could be another prequel oh a prequel but it was not vince it was not vince it was another actor and yeah it could be but now i think in my opinion, what I would love, and I think I get a lot of feedback from this, people would love to see the background, how the cartel came to be.

How did we grow up so messed up the way we are?

Tuco, man, part of the cartel was Tuco, Lalo, Theo Hector, myself.

How did Guz get involved in the cartel?

Because Guz is a complete different, you know, he could actually be a real businessman for the Boyos Armanos chain, right?

He could have succeeded doing good, but he chose to go on the cartel route and start doing bad stuff.

So people would love to see that.

And I always think of the show Narcos, you know, it's a very successful show.

People love that side of things.

So I'm like, wow, if Vince could do this, the cartel side of things would be great.

It would be interesting.

So I'll be awesome.

Hoping and praying to the acting gods.

I'd love to see that, man.

What was your favorite season out of both shows, just in terms of having fun and memories?

Having fun and memories, I would say

season four of Better Call calls saw oh the lot is that the last one yeah the last better call saw no season four there's six seasons okay but season four it was just i don't know it was just a great experience we had a good time filming was great we did more episodes than any other um

season of breaking bad and better calls saw i'll say scenes on season four of better calls saw but my favorite scene ever was probably the shootout with hank that's legendary scene episode three story for that one one minute yeah i i love that scene That was action-packed.

All right.

How many takes did that scene take?

Dude, it took a lot of takes.

Let me tell you this.

We usually don't do this, but they did it because back then, the budget for Breaking Bad was small.

They had not, yeah.

Season three, they had not won an Emmy yet.

It was season two, but so season three won an Emmy after it.

But yeah, first and second, did not win an Emmy.

Nothing.

Season three came and they won.

Brian won best actor.

The show won best show.

And all that.

The budget went.

But when we were working on the show, the budget was small.

so what they did is we needed to film that sequence it was at least three days to shoot it to a week damn just for that one minute scene for that little scene the showdown and the whole thing because it would require a lot of stuff you know the shootout i shot a guy in the forehead and hang the whole the blood so what they did is that they hired the the first um uh the group you know that they have the regular camp everything and then a second unit so every time we did a scene like so let's say i'll do a scene with hank when i shoot him shoot him cut okay louis right over here you're gonna do this scene right now like there were once we were doing this we were doing this scene and another crew was working on prepping the other scene on the other side that was the second unit so as soon as I was done here bro I almost had to run to the other one to do the the getting the axe out of the car dragging it on the ground I'm done with that okay cut Hank is hey he's ready go over there now you're gonna shoot him it was like that wow the whole day the whole day cool thing it was running it was crazy it was hard and it got nominated for best episode.

Michelle McLaurin, the director, got nominated for best director as well.

So it was great.

It was a great episode, dude, but it was hey, I was behind

to work.

It was great.

Emmy's must have been crazy.

What was that like?

It was crazy.

We actually did a little spoof with her, you know, because she got nominated for it.

So we went, got the suits, and we did just a little Michelle McLaurin.

And then we came from the side with the axe and got on her face.

It was cool.

But that was really cool, dude.

It was an experience.

I never experienced anything like that.

the saga wars, anything.

Not like me, I never experienced this thing.

But on this show, I did, and it was amazing.

The feeling you get is that you're proud.

It's like you finally made it, right?

Yes.

Yeah, you spend your whole life learning acting or skills.

And you get, you know, I got some shows before.

I worked on a lot of stuff.

I started acting seven years before Breaking Bad, but nothing like that.

But when I got Breaking Bad,

I didn't even think.

I did not think

it was going to be what it was, what it is now.

It's amazing.

Now it's like, yeah dude i'm you know i have no one to say i'm thankful bro i'm so thankful for that show for the people for everything everything that has given me i'm so thankful so thankful yeah who would have known you know body dude when

i got the audition dude i didn't even know what breaking bad was you know what i did i went to i got the audition and they said we need two guys that look alike cartel you know the bad boy type um okay cool and that for a show breaking bad and i'm like oh breaking bad huh let me go to blockbuster i had a week to start i go to block but blockbuster at the time and rented season one and two

and so blockbuster was still open at the time it was still open my house i was in studio city and i rent this and i watched the first two episodes dude i needed to be on this show i watched those two episodes and i'm like i always want to be on everything i do all the additions i try to do good but this was oh my god i need to be in this You know, I put extra, everything I could, I did, and it worked.

It worked.

Those first two episodes.

That's the one where he's handcuffed to the wall, right?

Mm-hmm.

Yeah.

The guy in the picture.

Yeah, but he does uh theo hector took when they kidnap him and all that stuff yeah like i yeah all that stuff when he meets with jesse for the first time like i saw this and i'm like this show is amazing

it's amazing i have to be in it and

i was so happy dude and prior to acting you were uh in a gang and in prison right what was that like yeah so I came here in 1991.

I'm originally from Honduras, Central America, third world country.

I came here in

91, went to school.

And,

you know, people, I didn't speak English, bro.

People picked on me and they were mean and all this shit.

So, all this stuff.

And

one time I saw a guy, you know, walking in the school, and he had so much power and authority that to me, being nobody, being school, I was like the get over there on the side.

And I see this guy, like King Kong, walking the freaking school, and the sea opens, bro.

And I'm like, who is that?

I followed him, bro.

Somehow I hooked up with this guy, took me to LA.

Next thing you know, I joined a gang

a few months later prison damn yeah two years

two years yeah got out of prison three weeks later i was back in prison damn got out again

a few three months later again prison again

so it was like you know the third time i went to prison i was i was tired of it i was in the hole for six months geez and i told myself you know what you need to do something bro to change i i kept calling myself stupid in prison and bro you know what i did to get out and this is for everybody that things that you know, you can't get out.

No, you can't, bro.

There is a way.

You just get away from everything.

I used to have a booklet with numbers of all my friends, all the bad friends, right?

And in prison, right before I worked out of prison, before I walked out, that little booklet with all my numbers I ever knew from that world, I dropped it in a trash can.

Inside prison, once you cross the line to get out of to the

free, you cannot go back.

If you go back, they actually throw you back for one more day.

So I left the booklet in the trash can inside.

I walked out, never looked back.

I moved from LA to the valley, never looked back.

My life changed, my friend.

My life changed after that.

You know, I started doing bodyguarding, which is funny because I was a felon, right?

You know, I started doing bodyguarding and security, and that's how I started acting just like that.

Yeah, the acting led into motivational speaking.

I learned, you know, the,

you know, spoke gangs, the, you know, drugs and all that stuff.

You know, I enjoy that very much, but my life changed from that, from the day I moved.

I said, I'm leaving the

stuff behind, all the bad stuff.

You leave it behind, you move somewhere else and don't look back.

Because before that, the other two times that I came, I said, oh, I'm going to try to get a job, but I was still at the same place where the bad things were happening.

You know, bro, temptation is there.

You're going to do something dumb.

And I did.

Ended up in prison.

You know, but yeah, once you, if you want, you just move, just do it.

Just change your life, man.

Change your life.

Now i go anywhere and everywhere and nobody is going to shoot me nobody's going to call me anything nothing i'm free i do everything i want it's beautiful i love everybody i'm thankful for from prison to being on the best show ever brother it's an amazing thing it's it's like wow you know but you know change is possible i always say change is possible my friend change your environment change your life 100 yeah and wanting to do it absolutely it's it's very powerful man you can do anybody can do it have you gone back to honduras since you uh flew up

i went back in 95 but it wasn't a good experience because in 95 i was still doing the the bad things in life so i went to honduras and i ended up getting stabbed over there damn holy and yeah i have scars and all this and

i actually went in jail there too

oh my gosh

and i just never went back i never went back because it was really bad honduras is a different place than here like prison here if you go to prison here yeah it's bad prison is prison it's bad but prison over there it's like holy micro it's it's bad dude i never went back never went back after that i don't blame you yeah never went back it's like i got stopped

i don't think i'm going and i got stopped once it was actually a machete that hit me in the back whoa like a machete dude so you didn't see it coming i saw it coming oh you did oh i saw it you pissed them off I think they were pissed off at me because at the time,

I don't know if you guys know about this.

You know, a lot of people were getting deported to countries.

gang members were getting deported.

So it was a lot of the gang work, it was growing so big.

I'm coming from LA from a gang myself.

So when I get to where I was from Honduras, there was already a gang there where I lived.

So you get me, I got thrown into the wolves.

They saw me and they're like, oh, yeah, we're going to get this guy.

And that's me, the mentality of a youngster, dumb, dumb.

I didn't know better.

Exactly.

Bro, I go with the mentality.

Oh, yeah, I'm here.

You guys can't do that.

That was not smart.

And yeah, they they got me and hey it was my fault yeah

how they know did you have tattoos or oh yeah oh you didn't i had tattoos they knew and they knew everybody knows like somebody comes from the from the united states oh people know but they're a lot of people think you have money you're rich yeah and then you know you come from the us so you're kind of cool over there but in my case it was oh this guy's coming from he's from a gang oh yeah everybody knew the whole town knew damn yeah it was very quick, you know, that were after me.

And, you know, it was like, ain't no going back there.

I'm never going.

I never, i've never come back yeah since yeah damn that's crazy i didn't know honduras was like that oh crazy buddy what a shame i love traveling where do you like to go uh man dude i i want to go i've been to places i say dubai is beautiful and everything but the one

almost like a dream i guess my wife is upset she wants to go to germany her roots are there so she wants to go to germany and i have a lot of german friends and fans that i have yeah i want to go to germany so but europe yeah means germany uk as well I would love to.

Europe's beautiful.

Food is great.

Hawaii is beautiful.

I've been to Hawaii a couple of times and it's beautiful.

I gotta get out there.

Yeah, yeah.

I haven't been yet.

But Europe, Europe is the one place that I want to go.

Germany, Spain,

UK, Switzerland, all those places.

Where was your favorite spot on set to film?

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uh yes I have

no favorite place no I think my favorite place to film outside of not even outside the country was New Mexico okay yeah I went to Louisiana Texas

New York, Atlanta, nothing.

I have never shot anything overseas, but I have traveled for cons, for Comic-Cons to Ireland, Dubai, and and things like that.

And Dubai was freaking amazing.

That place is different.

I got to get out there.

That place is different, brother.

That opened my eyes to other things.

I was like, wow, this is crazy.

They have this kind of things in the world.

It was beautiful.

Yeah, but New Mexico, I said, was my favorite place to film just because of the friendships I've made from Breaking Bad.

Yeah.

I made that good of friends over there.

So I'm like, I love that place.

And New Mexico, Breaking Bad in New Mexico is almost, I compare it to a religion, right?

It is huge, brother.

Businesses have things that uh there's a bar that has a drink called the heisenberger there's a donut shop that has the glaze the blue glaze don't it wow it's crazy it's it's crazy but the people are so cool bro they're so nice like just not even my friends just regular people fan everybody is just everything for help anything you need they're just lovely people bro i like awesome it's amazing because the show is filmed entirely out there everything wow even the scenes there is a scene that we supposedly came from mexico well mexico on very came Mexico was across the studio.

It was like literally just across the street and it was desert.

I remember that scene.

That was Mexico.

All they did was change a filter and it was like an orange filter.

Every time we were in Mexico, it was an orange filter.

It was across the street.

When we broke for lunch, it was like, hey, lunch.

We just crossed the street into the studio and hey, let's go back to Mexico.

And we just cross the street and go back to filming.

Yeah, but everything was shot in Albuquerque.

That's cool.

No wonder they like you guys because you spent six seasons out there, right?

Yeah, it it was beautiful.

Long time.

Yes, you're probably eating at the local restaurants and talking with the locals.

Yeah, you go to anything.

They just want everything.

They want to, oh, come, they treat you like a king.

Like, it's so kind, bro.

Like,

it's just cool, dude.

People are so, so, so welcoming.

Yeah.

I want to say so welcoming.

That's awesome.

Are you doing any current projects, any auditions, or anything you got your eyes on right now?

We just did.

And by the time we did a thing right now, we're Delta Force thing that I did.

But the project that I want to to say that I've enjoyed doing and just changed my life in different ways is the video game.

Video gaming.

That's scum, right?

Yes, brother.

That has changed my life in a good way to see things.

Because right now from scum, I started streaming on Twitch.

And it's different.

It is so beautiful to meet people.

Like when you go to cons, you know how you go to Comic-Cons?

you take pictures with people and sign autographs and you talk to people it's beautiful but you don't you don't do that every day.

When you stream, every time you stream, you talk to people and fans, they can ask you whatever they want.

I'm very engaged.

When I do this, I'm, I'm, I'm, me, but it's about the people.

I love it.

You meet people.

Oh my God, I can't wait.

You know, you talk, I can't believe I'm talking.

I said, bro, we're just here.

Yes, anything you want.

I enjoy it very much.

It's laid back.

Yeah, yeah.

So that I'm focusing on that streaming thing right now.

The gaming, I think, always think technology is the future, my friend.

Yeah.

And this gaming thing is huge.

And acting right now in LA is kind of like struggling.

It's tough.

Because of COVID, the strike.

And the AI.

Yes.

But the screen.

Oh, the strike, right?

The strike was big on the AI.

That was the, I think, the main problem that we had was AI.

They couldn't come to an agreement with the AI.

So right now we have like, what did they say, a three-year deal?

And we're going to have to touch base in three years with the AI because it's going to be more advanced.

And, you know, the example was, and this made sense for everybody, the way they broke it down.

He said, imagine if they hire a a background actor right now, a background guy.

They're going to pay him $50, $100, hire him and ask him, hey, go do this.

Okay, cool.

Now we're going to owe you forever.

And we can make a series just based on that little five-second clip.

We can do anything.

And we paid you nothing that we would have to hire an actor to do that job.

We're saving money.

Why are we going to hire an actor?

So now you think there's not going to be any actors.

or one actor for the whole, they're going to pay you for one episode and do a whole season.

It's like, that's not fair.

Yeah.

You know, so yeah, that's, we're going to have to scary.

It's, dude, it's scary.

And not only the actors, the writers, they're getting, AI's just taking over the writing too.

Yes.

Oh, it was, it was huge.

They had a longer strike than we did.

You know, we just joined their strike.

But yeah, it's the same thing.

AI,

it's a beautiful tool.

And yes, progress and everything, but it's also a scary thing.

It's a very scary thing.

It has to be managed.

correctly i believe you know with the right people have to be behind that because it's going to affect a lot of people a lot of lives and jobs.

And I mean, come on, it's, it's crazy.

It's crazy.

Man, we're going to end up like a Terminator.

Dude, yes.

You know?

Yeah.

I funny, funny that you said that because I thought of this and I'm like, man, this world, one day, machines are going to take over computers.

And then what are we going to do?

You know, we're not needed.

They're going to be running us.

Yes.

They're going to use us as slaves.

All those movies that do that, it's like, man,

they're on to something with this.

There's a lot of truth to movies.

A lot of hidden messaging.

Yes.

yes.

Now you think about it from movies,

it's all hidden.

It's, I mean, it's coming, it's coming to fruition.

You know what I'm saying?

Like, now it's happening.

I'm like, I never thought back when I saw 10, 15 years ago, you see a movie that says, you know, computers and machines are going to, you're like, yeah,

Terminator in 1984, I think.

Yeah.

Dude, it was like, come on.

There's no way.

That's a great movie.

I love it, but there's no way.

Look at now, 2025.

And we're like, huh, we had a strike because it was, that was the main topic of it.

Yeah.

Of the strike.

Crazy.

Yeah, so it's a scary thing, bro.

It's a scary thing.

Yeah, I've been wondering what's going to happen because it seems like everyone's moving towards streaming now, too, right?

Yeah.

Like Netflix, like movies seem to be hurting.

Yeah, Hulu.

Yeah, Amazon.

Snow White just flopped.

So all these big movies are struggling.

They're going to have to figure out what's next.

Yeah.

Yeah.

It's, I don't know.

I know, I hate to say it, but it seems to me like it's just going.

like this.

It has to be something has to be done.

I don't know.

It's crazy.

Well, it's smart that you're pivoting at least into video games for now.

For sure.

Yeah.

I see the opportunity.

I enjoy it a lot.

I make my own schedule when I want to stream so I can be on my son's soccer games whenever I want to be and spend time with the wife.

And I'm cool.

How long she guys been together?

My wife, nine years.

Nine years.

Yeah, nine years.

Married almost three years.

I'm getting married this year.

Congrats, brother.

Yes.

Eight years.

Eight years.

Eight years.

Oh, I bet you.

Oh, I bet she's giving you all that.

It took you eight years to marry me.

I'm sure you got that.

What were you thinking?

I'm sure you got hit with that around year five.

Yeah,

bro, it was six years, right?

And oh, dude, I when I proposed my friend, oh man, they were like, finally.

I was like, well, you know, you got to get to know and this.

Let me show you, you know, do things together.

So you make the marriage last, you know, you don't want to get married when you meet somebody six months later.

You really don't know them.

Yeah.

Especially someone in your spot at the time.

You were, you you know peak actor breaking bad my you know what's funny thing and this one thing i like about my wife to this day she has not watched breaking bad no way she hasn't watched breaking bad about it

like i'll show her clips but she's she's like yeah

it's too long i don't want to watch it's too many seasons i'm like who she's like she's the least of she's not a uh you know how

you go to uh events like a red carpets or this and this oh she's not one to go she you know she's not that person yeah that wants that.

You know how you people sometimes, oh, yeah, I'm going to get this guy so that I can go to all this.

She's the opposite.

She don't want to go to anything.

Whole body,

introvert.

I love that.

She's Missouri, small town.

You get me?

I love that.

Family person.

I'm a family guy.

I don't like to do anything.

I want to be home, spending with my wife and my son.

That's all I want to do.

My adventure,

a crazy night for me will be go to the movies and go to dinner.

Oh, man, we party today.

You get me?

That's me.

That's what I do.

I don't drink.

I don't do nothing.

I love it.

I love that about her.

You know, we were talking about that earlier.

It's, I love that.

Have you always had that discipline, or did you have a phase when you were younger where you were when I was young?

I was, I was, I didn't know when I came when I was in you know, gangs and prison, all stuff,

not disciplined at all.

I thought I was, you know, I could do whatever.

I didn't even know where I was going in life.

Tell you the truth, and you probably heard this before, and a lot of people say this, but I really mean when I say this, I did not think that I was going to make to 21 impossible.

The way things were going, dude, I was already ready.

I knew I was going to die.

Wow.

Like, just put like this, where I grew up, the neighborhood and all this, but we were getting shot at every

out of the week, at least three times a week.

What?

People come do drive-bys, dude, and you like, feel like you're in the Matrix.

Holy.

Like, you see, I'm walking down the street, and next thing you know, somebody passes on, yeah, and you're doing one of these matrix moves where they're shooting at you.

Dude, I knew I was going to die.

Cause one day they're going to catch me off guard.

And I was, and I knew I was going to die.

Or I was going to end up doing life in prison.

I was okay with it.

It was it was it's a life that you're like, how are you living life like this, dude?

You know, it was crazy to me.

Damn.

You were always on edge when you were younger.

Always on the edge.

I couldn't leave from being on that gang world.

You cannot leave your neighborhood without you know something bad is going to, it's basically you're confined to a cage.

Wow.

It was, it was, now that I've, my life the way it is, it was horrible.

It was horrible.

I did not, I have not, for years, I did not see the world nothing it was i was just there you know and there got me in trouble at prison how many times and everything and i never i wasn't doing anything with myself i was just there basically just you know waiting to go to prison or die damn and then i left my look my life changed it's beautiful the world is beautiful people are beautiful there's great people in the world yeah you know not everybody's against you Wow.

It's a beautiful.

I always thought every, everything, Sean, everybody I thought was against me.

Everybody.

Wow.

Like me, you'll never see me.

Hey, no.

Me, dude, I was walking down the street to no matter who it was, it was me like this, bro.

I'm just waiting for somebody to say something to you.

You know what I'm saying?

No wonder you did so well on the show now.

You already had it.

I did like that.

Yeah, I did.

I grew up like that.

It was natural.

It was just like that.

But now, nowadays, I do walk serious.

I'm serious.

I go to the gym.

It's funny because I do this at the gym.

And people look at me and they're like, and a lot of people look at me.

Funny.

And then when somebody comes,

I'm so sorry to bother you.

They come so nice.

I'm so sorry to bother you.

Aren't you the guy from Breaking Bad?

And I look and I just give them this.

And then I go there, Sean.

Yes, I am.

Nice to meet you.

Good eye.

And then I change my, you know, change it, but I'm just serious, just, you know, but I'm super.

As soon as I say something to me, bro, I'm like, hey, how you doing?

Thank you, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

And when we're done, I'm like, you got that switch.

Yeah.

My wife tells me, smile.

I say, I can't.

Except when I stream.

You see, you put a camera in in front of me and i'm like hey what's going on i love that no i'm just happy and thankful when i do things like that the streaming talking to people i'm thankful i'm in a good place like the opportunities that came to me because of things i'm thankful for everything dude wow everything that comes my way i'm thankful people that tune to watch me on twitch i'm thankful for that one person for for everyone just because of background.

You know, you came from this, you did all this.

Now you're like people are like, you know you're giving back i don't know i feel like i i don't know i just i'm just so thankful for gratitude yeah yes for everything dude everything that comes my way i'm i'm grateful to you for being here like you know what i'm saying he was great to me yeah rap's amazing charlie was amazing you know it was it was good talking i'm just like wow that's just good people yeah great people so i love you still talk to anyone that uh you grew up with like back in those days you cut everyone off everyone i don't talk to anybody from school anybody from my past past from gang uh high school no friends wow nothing you didn't go to the 10 year high school reunion

no i did not i actually i graduated high school in prison oh wow i my last uh yeah last year of prison yeah there i got kicked out of like three high schools two continuation school i ended up going to jail and i finished schooling there and you know what the funny thing was dude that when i actually was in prison i found out that i enjoyed school really oh i got great grades in in prison the teacher teacher put it.

The teacher for me to get out, he wrote a very, like an amazing letter, you know, how his young man can have a great future if you felt that.

And I mean, I was focused on, I liked it.

I don't know why I loved it.

It was really cool.

But outside in the world, me, I thought everybody was against me.

And I did not speak English.

That was a big thing.

They threw me into a school and everybody's, I mean, English, I had ESL, like second language thing, but every other class was in English.

I'm like, I'm just set to fail.

Yeah, they said you're for failure.

Yeah, so it was one of those.

But yeah, in prison, the teacher was great, amazing.

And yeah, I did good.

I enjoyed school.

Yeah, to me, now that's the biggest thing, bro.

School for everybody.

My son, dude, I lived life how I lived it and I learned.

I learned.

Now my son, dude, oh, I'm like a hawk with my son, but he's a great kid.

I love him.

Amazing.

He's really open about stuff.

Last year, I told him about prison, but he's now 17.

I had to tell him he's seen things on the internet.

You know what I say?

I told him, no, that's actually true, bro.

And I explained to him what I did.

I told him, there's no excuse for what I did.

Like, it was dumb things, a little, nothing, nothing bad, enough to go to prison.

So I told him the things that happened, this happened because of this.

What happened?

It was my fault.

It was no one else's fault.

It was all me.

Wow.

I did it.

I did it because I was dumb.

I didn't have guidance.

And I was just with my friends.

So now to me, I tell him as a young man, I tell him, never, your friends are going to make your life either.

They're going to be great friends and push you the right way, call you out when they need to call you out.

They're not going to be the ones, hey, Joe, I dare you to do this or let's go do this.

Don't ever, don't ever do that.

Be your own man.

Always be strong.

If you're here and everybody else is partying, but you're, you're here, don't, don't go over there just because, no, be your own man.

Be strong.

No peer pressure, nothing, none of that.

Be your own man.

You're going to be cool because you're going to be like, man, look at all those

dummies, I want to say, and look at that guy.

He's just there by himself, not doing the dumb things, drinking, smoking, do it.

No, that guy is cool.

He is strong.

He's his own person.

I said, be that guy.

I love that.

Be that guy.

You know, you're going to be super cool because they're going to be like, man, I said, boys, everybody's going to look up to you.

You know, walk proud and conduct yourself as a respectable man.

You're going to, you're going to be the man.

And, and it's working beautiful.

He's doing that.

That's great advice.

Cause when you're that young, you're so impressionable and you want to fit in.

So it's easy to follow the wrong guidance.

100%, dude.

Remember, I told you that comes from the time, remember when I was in school?

And i told you that i followed that guy that carried he carried so much power like so much i thought he was king kong but you know and i went with him and look where he took me gangs prison ruined my life happened to him uh he oh man he ended up going to prison a few more times and i and then i the last time i talked i knew he went to jail for a few years and i never talked to him again damn never talked to him again i never i just lost everything with people i just you know i just don't need it

I don't need to.

You know, I'm not going to lie.

The last time I actually talked to one of my actual

friends, if you want to call them friends,

was in,

I was,

so when I got out of prison, I started doing the acting, but I started also training and competing in Muay Thai.

So I was into the Muay Thai thing.

I was training.

I was fighting.

I was enjoying and loving life.

I put my whole life.

Once I left prison, bro, and I left the hood, I put everything in me into Muay Thai, into the acting.

So everything, my whole everything.

That's one thing, sports are a great thing for kids.

I always believe that if you put your kids in sports and keep them busy, they're going to be walking a straight line because you always meet good people at things like that.

Only good people,

parents that care, they take their kids to either gyms or sporting things like baseball, football, basketball.

You know, other kids are not going to be on the street.

Parents don't care or they don't have time, whatever it is.

But sports, I think, is a good thing.

So I was focused on the Muay Thai for, I mean, I was just focused, focused.

And my friend, my best friend, when I was doing bad, he got out of prison.

He messaged me.

And he was my best friend.

I wasn't trying to talk to anybody.

And he messaged me.

And I was like, you know what?

I want to try to put him out, try to bring him with me because I know he liked the kind of like fighting stuff.

So I said, I'm going to bring him to the gym under a disciplined environment to kind of, you know, get the.

I brought him.

I brought him to the gym.

I trained with him.

I showed him some stuff.

And I told him, hey, I'm going to find in in two weeks.

You're more than welcome to come, bro.

I would love to have you there.

Keep coming to the gym.

I cover everything.

I told him, if you come to the gym, you don't have to pay anything, bro.

Just come.

A week later, he was dead.

Damn.

Bro, he got killed leaving a strip club with his friend.

Holy.

He got shot like 10 times.

And in my mind, dude, just think of it.

In my mind, dude, I thought we were best friends.

If I was still doing what he was doing, all the bad stuff, hanging out, he was my best friend.

I was his best friend.

I would have been that guy that he died with his friend.

I would have been that guy, not that guy.

I was his, I would have died with him because I would have gone to the club with him.

Wow.

And I would have died too.

You know, so I always think about it because we, when we were together, bro, we were like that, we would go everywhere together.

It was not, as soon as I woke up to his house,