Build a Better You: Spiritual Insights for Modern Leaders | Pamela Downes DSH #1294

We're supposed to build a portal for humanity.

And I was like, what?

And we both started crying.

Well, Spirit knew how busy I was with creating all these other things in my life.

They answered my call that said, give me the people.

Give me all the things.

And she helped me build it while I was doing my other stuff.

And I launched it in January.

Okay, guys, Pamela here.

Only her second in-person interview ever.

So I'm honored you chose this platform.

I'm so excited to be here.

I've been waiting for this conversation.

Yeah, it's important, right?

You're on a big journey right now.

I am.

Big mission.

Lots of stepping into courage, out of fear, into what I'm supposed to do with my soul's purpose for the rest of my life.

And being on these podcasts, no matter how, you know,

courageous I need to pull from all the different pockets that I have to do it, I do it because I know that the universe is putting these pieces in front of me and I need to follow them and I need to do it.

And And that stems from my story and how everything started.

And when I started hearing the visions or the messages, and seeing the visions, and hearing all of the things, getting the premonitions, and I was on like a fast track to hear today.

So, thanks for having me.

Yeah, let's dive into your story.

It was a spiritual awakening all of a sudden, right?

Yeah, it was.

In

2008, 2012, in that time when the world was shifting, I started just not understanding religion and resonating with all of the rules and doctrines and all the things.

And like, I had big questions.

They weren't being answered.

I didn't like the answers I was getting.

They kept saying, well, if God is love, then how am I going to, you know, die?

And then he's going to say, you are going to heaven or you are, you know, going to hell for the rest of your, for, for eternity.

And I was like, that's not love.

That's not, that's like the opposite of love.

And

I just started this journey of wanting to know more and wanting to know more.

And I didn't know it, but I was starting my spiritual awakening journey.

And I was learning about other worlds and Reiki and healing and chakras and like all of the stuff

that ultimately brought, you know, the people that were in my life to start to slowly fall off of the game board.

And new people.

came onto the game board that were like the right people at the right time.

And so

I had this experience growing up where I lived in a family where my dad was an alcoholic and

I was fearful of him.

I didn't feel safe at home.

And a lot of the experiences that I had with him were really traumatic and difficult.

But I always felt like that there was something more for me.

So growing up, I was fearful of my dad.

And

I was stifled with my voice.

And there were a lot of experiences where I couldn't say what I felt or stand up for something that I believed in.

And, you know, there's, there's, we come down in soul packs with our families and we make agreements that someone's going to show up this way and someone else is going to show up this way to support the advancement of your soul.

And my advancement was to step on platforms, you know, ultimately to get me here to talk about spirituality, to help humankind in the shift of awareness that's happening right now.

So all of the experiences I had where I questioned what is religion and, you know what what is Reiki and what is this and what is that it brought me to here right now and one of the

most profound experiences that I had that I had in my life was doing plant medicine

I was called to do ayahuasca after I went down the Reiki path and after I went down like Akashic record path and after I went down like all these working with different energy healers and opening up my chakras and you know slowly raising my frequency and my vibration to get to a point where I was able to receive more information slowly as I traveled and journeyed down that path.

And one of the things that I kept hearing was that, you know, you are here for something greater.

Like you're not here just for

to be in marketing and branding or just to have a family or whatever.

You have a mission.

You have something important that you're bringing to the world.

Yeah.

So I was, you know, on the journey of trying to understand religion and trying to understand

spiritual things.

Like, where did Jesus go all those years?

And where did he disappear to?

And where did he travel to?

And what did Mary Magdalene do?

And like all this stuff.

And I was going down the rabbit hole of trying to gobble up information.

And I found this video.

I think the guy that did one of the ayahuasca documentaries was his name, Zippo or Zappy or Zippo.

Zappi Zapolin, yeah.

Yeah, yeah.

So he was one of the first videos that I watched, which brought me to this video that Gerald Powell did.

And he talked about how he was a hotelier and he was addicted to sex, to drugs, to alcohol, to gambling, to everything.

And he was going down this path of demise, like he wasn't going to continue to be able to live this way.

And

he was traveling, he was in an airplane and a friend reached out to him and said, I'm going to do ayahuasca.

This is something that maybe you should consider doing.

And he was like, nah, I'm not going to do that.

Like, I don't know what you're talking about.

And she goes, I knew you'd say that.

I knew you wouldn't do do it.

And that challenged him.

And he wound up going to the jungle and doing another plant medicine.

Not

something different.

He cured his addiction.

He cured everything.

Wow.

And he took, you should interview him.

He's really cool.

He took all of his skills, as we are all doing, and he created healing centers.

And so Rhythmia Life Advancement Center in Costa Rica was the place that he created him.

As soon as I saw it, I was like, that's where I'm going.

I just knew I was going there.

I didn't know how I was going to go.

I didn't know how I would pay for it.

And then through this, this course of events of meeting this person who introduced me to this person, who introduced me to this person, which is what would happen on my spiritual awakening journey, the right people would start coming and the wrong people would start leaving and opportunities would start happening.

And I had to say yes to them.

And I continued to say yes to them.

And it brought me to meeting this woman.

who said, Pamela, I'd love to do trading.

Can we do marketing for our company?

And I said, yeah.

And part of the trade was going to the symposium down in florida and so i went down to the symposium in florida and the owner of the company was there and i walked up to him and i said hey steve i'm pamela we never met i'm doing your marketing and working with um your employee and he looked at me i looked at him this energy shot through my head out my heart and his and it went

he looked at me and i went he goes do you feel that and i said yeah i do I feel that.

So I went back after the symposium to my house.

I'm working.

I'm on a Zoom call.

I look down and my phone is this weird number.

And I'm like, I hear Steve in my head.

I finished my call.

I look,

got a voicemail from him.

I listened to it.

He's like, Pamela, this is Steve.

I want to talk to you about that experience.

I want to discover more about what that was.

Well, we wound up becoming really good friends.

He said to me, he goes, I don't typically talk to people about this, but I'm ready, getting ready to go on a trip.

I'm going to do plant medicine.

I'm going to do ayahuasca.

And I was like, you're going to do ayahuasca?

I was like, I'm feeling called to do ayahuasca.

And he goes, I said, I'm going to be going to Rhythmia Life Advancement Center in Costa Rica.

He goes, Pamela, I'm going there in November.

And like, these aren't things that people talk about all the time.

Nobody's talking about that with work.

Like no one.

And I said, oh, my God.

I wound up becoming really good friends with him.

And I kept hearing he's going to invite you to this retreat.

He's going to invite you.

And I said, well, we'll see if that happens.

So he called me and he's like, Pamela, I'm getting guidance that I'm supposed supposed to invite you to go to this retreat.

I'm a part of this group.

One of the founders or the owners of Rhythmia, he's like on the board or something, is in my group.

They're closing this place down, the center down.

There's only going to be 40 high conscious people that are going.

You'll love them.

You pay your way.

Come down and be with us.

And I was like, Like, I didn't have to figure out how to get there.

Universe was like, come on, girl, we're going to bring you and you've got work to do and you need to level up really quickly and do some healing work to get your vibration in a place where you can work with higher dimensional beings and you can receive premonitions and downloads and visions and you can channel and work with individuals who need help on their spiritual awakening journey.

And the rest, you know, of that story, I didn't hear at that time.

But through my awakening process, After the week-long journey of working with ayahuasca,

I kept on experiencing

past life stuff,

this life stuff, memories from my childhood were piecing together with information that I was receiving from my guides in that state of ayahuasca.

And I started having all these realizations and I started releasing trauma and my vibrations started raising and raising and raising.

My frequency was raising and raising.

And at the end of that journey, that week-long

retreat, we did ayahuasca four days in a row, like multiple times each day.

At the end of that, we did a breathwork class.

I had a white light shoot through my third eye, fill my entire body up with this love frequency, and my body was buzzing and my teeth were chattering.

And I heard everything from this moment forward will be different.

Your psychic abilities have been enhanced.

And I was out of breath and I was like in awe and I was crying and it was, it was just incredible.

That's beautiful.

It was amazing, Sean.

Like I knew that I was being placed there.

I knew that I was supposed to go there only because I was having the knowings.

But when I was there, it was scary.

Like part of my work was to work through fear.

Part of this life's work is to work through fear to be able to come to the Sean Kelly conversation today, right?

Yeah.

And to do this kind of work to bring it to the world.

And

I, every time I got up to go take a cup of that sacred plant medicine, I had to work through fear.

And everyone that I was with, they were conscious leaders.

They were people who were already working out in the world.

They had already written books.

They already had platforms.

They already had retreats.

People were paying to work with them.

They were very well-known people.

You would know them.

And I kept saying, why am I here, Spirit?

Why am I here?

It was because the frequency of all of those people that were in the room with me was high.

And a lot of times when people go to do sacred plant medicine, they're like Gerald Powell.

They're going to clear addiction.

They're going to clear negative energies and attachments.

And they're going to heighten their frequency to heal their soul body to ultimately heal and create a better experience for themselves in this three-dimensional world.

And,

you know, being with those 40 high conscious people, they were there to hold me.

They were there to create a safe container for me.

And I can look at it now and know that that's what was happening.

But at the time, I was so freaking scared,

but I had this pull pulling me, pulling me, pulling me, pulling me to continue to get up, to continue to walk and stand in that line, to continue to receive this beautiful, high frequency, sacred plant medicine and energy of Grandmother ayahuasca.

And,

you know, I know you've talked about ayahuasca with other people.

There's a reverence there.

There is an intention there from the moment that it is the plant is in the ground to when it gets picked and and put into the, you know, the experience of creating the sacred tea and every part of it is with intention and with with ceremony and with music and with reverence um by the time you are ingesting it like people think it's just something to do or they think like it's something that's cool but you really have to have a calling it has to be super intentional because it's no joke yeah it's no joke yeah a lot of people are taking that recreationally now they are and i i've heard other people talking about like yeah i did ayahuasca i went to this guy's house in California.

I went out to the mountains in Arizona and this guy was holding space and they have like, you know, big backyard.

And I'm like, oh my goodness.

Like, you know, everyone's on their own journey and everyone is experiencing what they're supposed to experience.

Spirit knew that I had a lot of fear.

Spirit knew I needed to work through the fear to get to the next phase of what my work was.

So that's why.

I believe I was picked up and I was put into that space.

I don't have a calling to do, like it'll start to like speak to you a little bit.

And so it comes up in conversation, or there's synchronicities and like people will talk about it, or there'll be some sort of an introduction to somebody who, and like that is starting.

So I see that the future is unfolding that and I'll bring my community down there.

But

through that,

after that experience of everything has changed, your psychic abilities have been enhanced.

That was in November of 2019.

I went home.

You know, it happened.

The pandemic, right?

Yeah, the pandemic happened.

And

I sat, I suddenly had this bank of time.

And I sat every morning, like you're in such a high frequency when you're, when you're with the plant medicine, when you're in the jungle, you have the energy of the jungle.

You're eating vegan.

So you're eating the super high frequency foods.

You're doing song.

You're, you're, you know, with high energy people in the space, like everything.

When you come home,

you come back to this three-dimensional, like

experience where this dense energy is around you.

And suddenly you have calendar invitations and you've got, you know, schedules and all these things that you have to do.

And you're like, I mean,

what am I doing?

The matrix.

You have this,

this crazy shift of understanding because

your awareness opens profoundly.

And

Because of the vibration that I was in, because of what it is that I'm supposed to do now moving forward after that, I knew I was supposed to sit with intention every morning.

I knew I was supposed to sit with intention every morning.

And we had this huge block of time because the world shut down.

So every morning I would sit and I had this bank of windows in front of me with nature.

And it would say, and I tell the people that I work with,

I would sit with intention, close my eyes and cross my arms and my legs and say, universe, I am here.

Guides, I am here.

I am here to work with you to create this relationship.

I want to know more.

I want to understand more.

Let's do this together.

You know, it's not like show me a feather, show me a balloon.

Like, give me a sign.

Is there a bird?

It's about like intention and open vulnerability

to understanding that you, there's so much greater than you, but you at the same time are connected to all that is, right?

And I am in this with you.

And let's do this.

So, right in the very beginning, this

amazing, gorgeous group of divine feminine energies that were super high frequency, super buoyant came in.

I could feel their energy come in.

I could feel my body start to vibrate.

I could feel lightness.

I could feel love permeate my whole entire body.

And when I knew that they came in, I knew that I was about to do more of the soul work that I had done at Rhythmia.

So I would start to experience past life deaths.

And I would experience it.

I would feel the trauma of it.

I would almost be like a fly on the wall witnessing myself going through the experience of it again.

And I went through so many past life experiences where I physically had to experience it.

Then I had to release the feelings and the trauma and the and the pain of it.

So I would like cry and release all of that emotion.

And then that was like processed and it kind of got processed through my soul body.

And every time I did that, my frequency would rise, my frequency would rise.

I would, you know, heighten and heighten.

Until one day, like light language, I could feel this thread

just start coming like,

and it just came

into the back of my head.

And I started, I have it all recorded.

I would write it down every day.

And as I would have visions, I would draw them.

I started having experiences with interdimensional beings.

Okay.

So you mentioned interdimensional beings.

When did that start happening?

Yeah.

It started happening after Rhythmia when I was working with the guides every morning.

And I used to joke and say I was like a galactic hotel.

There were so many beings that wanted to come in and experience, allow me to experience them and their energy.

So after the high vibration feminine energy beings would come in to help me do my healing work,

that's when I started my very first guide that I met through energy work with someone else actually was a Palladian guide named Avriel.

And I've seen him.

I've seen him in my meditations.

I've seen him in my mind's eye.

He's this tall, statuesque, absolutely beautiful male.

You know, I can identify as his visual as male.

And he's always on my right-hand side.

And I don't know, we have some sort of a contract that he needs to be with me.

But

then all of these different beings started connecting with me.

And I really didn't have a tribe.

I really didn't have a community.

I only had a couple of people that I did work with here and there.

And that's part of why I do the work that I do today, so that people have a place to be able to like feel supported, to be able to talk about the experiences that they're having.

But I would have, I had to understand

the density, the frequency, the experience of each being in their different dimension, of their vibration, so that I could learn the contrast, so that I could learn and experience the highs and I could learn and experience the lows.

They work together.

That's the only way you can understand them.

Right.

So there were

different beings that would come in.

They would speak different language.

They felt a different way.

I could feel the density of like how they would present if they were in their dimension.

And they would like to come in and everything.

So I had to learn how to harness myself.

I had to learn how to be able to work with them.

And

that was like over the course of like a year.

Wow.

You know, working, working.

I know.

Yeah.

That's why I say everything that I have done, that I have found the courage to do, every time I step through fear and then an opportunity comes and I gobble it up because I know I'm supposed to now.

I feel in alignment with it and I know that it's there for a reason.

I move through fear and I get to the next thing.

This was part of that.

And

I started channeling the light language and each one of them would speak their language and I would feel everything about them.

And then I didn't know it, but I was one of the first beings that came through was Thoth.

Wow.

And Raw.

So if you were able to see the council come in on the last podcast where you saw me, that.

dynamic energy raw is like that times 10.

And that was scary.

And I had to like go through it, understand it, harness it, walk away from it.

Like, you know,

and thought

was incredible, an incredible, incredible experience.

A friend connected me to someone that works with Thoth, so I was able to like understand all of that.

And then

I started getting visions.

I started getting premonitions.

I started getting downloads.

I started working with the Great Council of Light, which is who I work with now.

They're creator beings.

They are very extremely powerful, very divine, loving beings.

Their whole intention is to help humankind through this shift right now that we're on with planet Earth consciousness.

And they would come in and they started talking to me, talking to me about the experiences that I was having, talking to me about what I was going through.

They started giving me visions at night,

showing me things that were coming to our planet, you know, not telling me when.

And I have to learn.

I live in a three-dimensional reality.

Time and space is completely different than in

their dimensions and their frequency.

And

they would start talking to me about what was coming.

They would start telling me that there's going to be a financial collapse.

They would start telling me that there was going to be a war.

They would start telling me that,

you know, all of the things that were coming, there would be,

I would see things like, you know, Charlie was joking about the California and I've seen the side of California falling off.

I've seen, I've had so many dreams about tsunamis and, you know, all of these things.

So I would record them.

I would write them down.

I would allow.

I would sit in allowance and people would say, how could you do that?

It sounds so fearful.

How could you do that?

But I understood that there was a purpose because of all of the synchronicities that happened that were showing me that I needed to dive into this as well.

I needed to give this the space.

to learn about it.

I needed to experience this and I needed to push through the fear of this.

And I woke up in the middle of the night in 2020 and I heard spirit calling, spirit calling.

And I was like,

what is that?

So I woke up and I wrote the name down because I was having all kinds of messages.

I had a notebook next to my bed or I would do a voice recording.

And I woke up and I bought the URL.

I bought the domain in the morning and I just put it away, forgot all about it.

And over the course of a year, I kept hearing from the council, you are to build a portal.

I didn't know what a portal was.

I was like, what the frick is a portal?

They're like, you are to build a portal for humanity.

There's going to be a glass ceiling that breaks.

People are going to stop in their tracks.

They're not going to know who and what they have believed in their entire life.

Everything they've known to be their reality is going to shift in a moment.

They need a safe place to land.

You need to create that.

And I was like, are you like, huh?

Are you serious?

I'm like, I mean, I'm not joking when I said I didn't even know what a portal was.

I've been branding and marketing my entire career.

I'm like, it's a website.

Like, I know how to to do that.

Right.

And so I just kind of pushed it aside, wrote it down, pushed it aside.

And

at the end of that year,

about a year later, I woke up in the middle of the night and I saw this set of wings flying down, a vision onto the face of an iPhone.

And I got up, I got my color pencils out and I drew it.

I still have it.

And I kind of put it aside.

A couple of weeks later, I had to go on to GoDaddy for somebody's domain or something.

And I saw a spirit calling.

It was like,

it's a portal.

It's a logo.

It's, it's all of it.

And it started putting itself together in front of my eyes.

I didn't want to do it.

I wasn't ready to do it.

I had so many other things I had to do in my life.

I was just starting a new business.

I was, you know, creating this new version of myself.

I was working with the guides.

I was doing all this stuff.

And then finally, it was like gnawing, gnawing, gnawing.

You have to create it.

You have to create it.

And I understand

by these visions and understandings that I get from them that there's a window.

And the window, it closes like and the more persistent they are like there's a pathway a timeline that I need to get on board with and make these changes and move forward with

and I said fine fine send me the people send me the money send me all the things out of the blue this woman who lived in my town came to me and said Pamela I need you to rebrand my business I need you to do a logo do all the things i said sure we wound up working on it at the end of one of our meetings she said pamela can you hang on?

Um, you know, after the team leaves, I said, sure.

She was a Reiki person.

She did Reiking.

And she said, I received a download last night and I knew she knew nothing about this, that we're supposed to work on a different project.

We're supposed to build a portal for humanity.

And I was like, what?

And we both started crying.

Well, Spirit knew how busy I was with creating all these other things in my life.

They answered my call that said, give me the people, give me all the things.

And she helped me build it while I was doing my other stuff.

And I launched it in January of 2024.

And it is where I share the messages of the Great Council of Lights.

It is my life's greatest work.

It is me putting myself out in this way to share my premonitions, to share my visions, to share my downloads.

And, you know, again, that wasn't easy for me to do because it's my sole work now

in this lifetime to really step fully into this to not be fearful of all those past lives i just talked about where i had to experience those deaths to get through to the next thing it's me now showing up to do this um so yeah what a story yeah it's an amazing story um there's so many pieces that i left out you know like they told me to sell my house they told me um they showed me visions of when i needed to move and so that i would have the the funding to do certain things like i constantly am putting this belief and understanding that this is what my future is at the forefront.

Because like once you understand that you've come here many, many, many, many times before to do this work to support people in their spiritual awakening advancement and the advancement of their soul and that you've been tortured, you've been killed, you've been burned,

you've been torn apart, you've been hung, you've been water tortured, you've been all the things.

You've been all the things.

You think about that version of yourself that stepped up so many freaking times.

How can I turn my head?

How can I deny that?

How can I do it?

Couple that with all of the visions, with all of the synchronicities, with all of the support that the universe continues to give all of us when we step in our soul's purpose.

It's time.

It's time.

You see the world around us.

You see what's happening.

You see that we live in a world that was was created for us.

We live in a world of conditions.

We live in a world of restriction.

We are omnipotent, beautiful,

vast, powerful beings of light that come down here to occupy this meat suit to have experiences to learn love.

Right?

Yeah.

And we come down here and other and other worlds to do that.

And,

you know, it's our greatest lesson is to learn love.

It's to learn love.

And we've been dumbed down and born into a system

where we're not told that we are connected to all that is.

We are not told about our chakra system, the energy system that runs our body.

We are not told about our pineal gland and the crystals inside of it and how it's allowing us to connect to the presence around us.

And we're not told that we are the manifesters of our reality, that anything that we want is available to us if we believe it, if we understand that we are worthy of it.

And that's what the council primarily talks about.

You know,

the beings that run our world

have implemented our food systems, our financial systems, our education, our healthcare, all of it

to create us to be small,

to keep us in a space where we don't know.

how big and wondrous and amazing that we are.

So we're all starting to wake up to it.

Yeah.

We're all starting to understand all of that.

The guy and so was in meditation and I was channeling messages for my community.

Every month I channel a message and we learn and we, and they're, they teach through me, they teach.

It's not me, it's them.

And I was channeling my message and this pineal gland, meditation, activation, meditation came out.

And it said that you need to do this.

Like they're giving me 500 things to juggle at the same time.

I'm like, guys, like

I'm running two businesses I got kids I got a found like I have all the things that everybody has yeah and I'm like yeah I'll I mean I'll get to it and it's to help they said people need assistance in awakening their pineal gland to help them receive that higher guidance to help them navigate these changes that are happening now on planet earth that's important it's really important

Yeah, a lot of people are blocked, right?

Their pineal glands have been suppressed intentionally.

Yeah, calcified through like everything right the 5g the top water programming in the media yeah yeah absolutely i see that all the time yeah that's why i think someone like trump and rfk are huge in waking people up too i agree they're disruptors and wakers yeah absolutely and everyone can have like this is one of the things that the guides talk about all the time stop taking sides stop fighting you're just feeding into it right they want you to fight they want you to be distracted they want you to occupy your mind with worry and thoughts

you know yeah a lot of fights you got the political fight you got the male versus female battle yeah you got the religion battle yeah go on social media i can't follow it anymore you know i have to for my team to spread the message of the council and what my purpose is like i feel really tremendously sad for a lot of the people that i know that they just can't wait to fight.

They can't wait to comment.

They can't wait to reply.

They can't wait to post.

They just can't wait to do it.

They're just feeding in to the collective energy of chaos,

which is disturbing their energy body, their thoughts, their manifestation, their ability to create what they want to create.

They're getting caught up in that web, you know?

And that's what the council talks about.

Seph fighting.

What are you fighting about?

I wonder if we can ever get to that point.

Well, they've talked about a future version of a new earth where we are using all of our clear senses, where we are using inter,

we're connecting and talking without speaking, you know, where we're our primary focus, it's like completely flipping what we have right now upside down, where we're working together in unison, where we are, you know, being creative with our understanding of solutions of our planet and using our resources and, you know, caring about people, caring about with love is our focus.

I want to live there.

Yeah.

Atlantis days, right?

Yeah.

Cause when money is the number one thing for people to chase, it's hard to get in that mindset, I think, caring about others, you know, being community oriented.

Absolutely.

Yeah.

And that's what I think

is so beautiful about what the guides.

I mean, I created it only because like I would say, I'm the director, you know, the like I'm the project manager, basically, and I have to put my face on it because the guides need me to to channel their messages.

But that's what's so beautiful about the platform.

It's like you can't really, you have to be so careful about voicing what you really feel.

Not just in the world today,

but just about kind of what we're talking about.

Like I've had this experience in the middle of the night.

I am seeing colors on the peripheral of my eyes.

I am hearing things.

And then someone I know will call me.

And it's the person that I was hearing was going to call me.

Like, you can't sit around a boardroom or at work or the water cooler and talk about these things.

It's not received.

Don't make you you crazy.

Correct.

You know, I've always been strange and different and weird since I was a kid and that's fine.

But

the community that I created, you can talk about the bumps in the night.

You can talk about the vibrations in your heart.

You can talk about the experiences that you're having.

You can ask the questions.

No question is too weird, strange.

Like, you know, and that's the beauty of it because someone's there and say, I experienced that.

I'll message you privately.

We can talk about it.

There's a line professionals in there that can help you if you need to shift your vibration or work on your soul body or whatever it is.

And

that's the beautiful, beautiful, beautiful, beautiful, beautiful thing about it.

Because

I know in my family, I don't know about you and yours, like we all have our families.

There's disruptors in that soul family.

I'm the, I'm the disruptor.

I'm the one who left religion.

I'm the one who is channeling angelic beings.

I'm the black sheep in mine, too.

You're the black sheep and yours.

So we have large missions,

you know, and you're discovering it.

like you're awakening on a platform where the world, and that's what the guides channeled in your message, where they're watching you

reveal and understand, like real time.

And it's amazing.

Where I can't sit at Christmas, like, I don't even talk about what I do because they just, they can't understand it.

Inside of places like my community and many, many, many others, you can talk about that, you know?

You can feel like it's a safe space.

And that's really very, very, very important for everyone right now, because whether it's about spirituality, Sean, or whether it's just that, like, I'm seeing something different in the world that I didn't see before, and you're afraid to talk about it, but you need to express it.

You need to release it because you need to discover it, because you need to understand and expand your understanding of the world.

And with these shifts, these shifts that happen,

the one I talked about when I received the download to create the community,

I have channel messages recently.

There's going to be a great reveal.

Now, the guides talked about, and I have a 2025 predictions and update, energy update video on my YouTube channel.

You can go check it out.

The guides talked about a series of events that happen

where,

you know, much like COVID, but it's not that kind of event where

everyone's perspective change.

What am I doing?

What am I doing with my day?

Who am I spending my time with?

What am I consuming?

What is my work-life balance?

What about my my family?

Like everything

shifted.

The same thing is going to happen, but with our reality, just like I was told in 2020.

And this great reveal about what actually our world is and what it exists within.

And the guest that we were just talking about, he talks about that, the beings that run our planet.

It's all going to be shown.

And, you know, last year they talked about the music industry, people falling far,

all of that being revealed.

It's more of that's going to happen this year.

So there are the moments when people are like, what?

I don't understand

the

dark truths,

the deep secrets.

They're just skimming the surface now.

You've got people like Kat

who's talking about it.

It's just the very, very beginning of it.

Wow.

That's crazy.

It's just the very, very beginning.

Because there's billions of people in organized religion.

They're going to start questioning their whole existence because their whole life they were taught about religion.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And the guides talk about religion.

You know, they always say that there's a, there's a shift happening specifically right now where people are trying to believe in something higher.

There's a mass return to religion, to something higher.

There's other podcasts where they're talking about their religion.

They're talking about God freely and often.

And they're interviewing people who are portraying God on TV shows.

Right.

You know,

And people are like, they want it.

They want to believe in something greater because our world is so effed up.

It's so messed up.

And that's that natural progression towards love.

Like you'll always move, like you ultimately always want to move in a loving experience.

Your body, your energy always wants to experience a loving experience.

you know and the guides talk about like if people are searching for something that's greater something greater to believe in they're turning that dial.

They're trying to figure it out.

And so if they're getting what they need at that moment from that particular thing, it's okay.

They're on their journey.

They're on their path of discovering.

Yeah.

So a lot's going to be revealed this year, huh?

Yeah.

That's exciting.

Yeah, I know.

I think it's needed.

It is.

A lot of people, they call them NPCs.

They're like, you know, robots or whatever.

They're just living day to day with no.

no free will, no thoughts.

Yeah.

Controlled by the matrix.

Yeah.

We watched this movie that I bought from David Icke in 2020.

I don't know if you know him.

I heard of him.

I feel like you need to interview him, but he's not allowed to leave England.

Oh, wow.

This man has been showing up, stepping up, being chastised, ridiculed for years, for years.

He's been doing this work, I don't know, 50 years.

He had a realization.

He had a download, much like I just talked about, where everything and all that is was told to him about the world and everything.

Like you can't turn away from it.

You have to talk about it and try and share your knowledge.

And

it's, it's those moments where, you know, he was ridiculed.

He was told that he, he was like they created and Google, you know, they labeled him.

They said what he was.

And so people will repel from him.

Conspiracy theorist.

Yes.

Yeah.

The timing is important.

That

label.

Yeah.

If you're too early, you get labeled that way, like Alex Jones or David Icke.

So you need to be unified.

You need to coordinate with other people and at least at the same time.

That way it's like a blitz strategy.

So you can't be targeted.

Yeah.

So a lot of people are fearful and they're

they're receiving messages like like the great counsel of light that I transfer.

They're receiving them, the premonitions, visions, and downloads from me and others with the level of fear that resonates that they that they vibrate in, with the level of fear that resides in their soul body.

So they're like a dog.

They're, you know, they'll bark.

They're scared at it because they're like, how could you do this?

What could you do?

How could, how could knowing this help us?

Because I would prefer to know if something's coming.

I would love to be prepared.

Not only are they just talking about the premonitions and all the things, they're telling us how to raise our frequencies.

They're actually teaching us.

They're talking about love.

They're talking and telling you what to do every single day to improve your life, to create a better life, to experience more love.

They're the beautiful things.

You know, we are down here now experiencing the contrast because that was our soul contract.

Right.

You know?

Have you ever channeled a message and you were like, oh my gosh, I don't know if I could share this?

Yeah, it was hard for me for much of

from 2020 until actually last year.

I was,

I said this on Alex's show.

I'm like a belligerent child because of that fear.

It's still resonating in me because I was, you know, all those things in past lives.

Yeah, there's just like I performed in a band for 10 years, nearly 10 years.

Really?

Oh, are you a singer?

Yeah, so I'm a musician and artist.

We didn't really talk about that, but that's my

story.

So I'm a super empath.

I didn't really understand what I was growing up.

I just didn't understand that I was absorbing energy and I had anxiety because I was nervous and like, you know, all the things.

And

my path of performance, of getting out on that stage, was imperative to here, now, today,

this, right now.

And

I would push myself.

There was something about getting on.

I was in a David Bowie Tribute Band, 26 member of David Bowie Tribute Band, and we had a name for ourselves in Philadelphia.

They're still all there, and I love them.

But I knew I was supposed to get out there on that stage.

I knew I had to push myself out there on that stage.

I was afraid of forgetting lyrics.

I was afraid of making a mistake.

It's on my fear stuff.

Every time I did it, I got more and more comfortable.

I got more and more courage.

I got more and more experience.

And that brought me to here and now.

But for all of 2024, until October, I was working out.

And I, you know, I'm in the state of like, I'm focused.

And they're like,

you need to share these premonitions.

You need to share these visions.

You need to share this stuff.

And I'm like, I'm not ready.

And I finished working out.

I went up into the top floor of our townhouse.

Yeah.

And I sat on the couch and I said,

you want me to do this?

You want me to do this?

And a bird flew in the frickin window right in front of my face.

And I said, okay,

I'll do it now.

Like they know they have to push me.

Like they are, they like do this stuff where it's like, do it or lose it, do it or lose it.

And it's not about losing or winning.

I just want to preface that.

It's about the path.

It's about the timeline.

It's about the courage.

It's about the soul work.

It's about all of the things.

And so the bird flew into the window and I was like, okay, yeah, fine.

So I, that's the first premonition and vision video like that's relevant that I put it, put out in October.

And I, you know, it was scary and I was so authentic and real, like I don't try to put on any airs.

I don't try to act like I know everything.

I don't.

I don't.

I know my experience.

I know what things feel for me.

And I can talk about that.

And if you want me to find out something about something, I'll bring in someone to help.

That's what my community is about.

But this guy came out of nowhere and he said to me, he's got a nice, like a smaller but larger than mine following on YouTube.

And he goes, Pamela, somebody sent me your video and there's something about you.

More people need to see your work.

I want to have you on my live.

And I was like, okay.

Right.

So I went on his live and all these new people came out of nowhere they came to my community they started following my channel everything shifted on my channels

and then out of nowhere i've always i always knew i was going to go on alex's show i always saw myself having a conversation with him yeah but i it wasn't even it was just a year it wasn't even a year when he invited me to go

Somebody in my community that was a new member said, have you ever thought about going on Alex's show?

And I said, yeah, I would love to go on that show.

I've seen myself there.

A couple of days later, I got an invitation from him.

That's what I'm talking about.

Wow.

That's the universe putting it in action.

And he said, when can you come down?

I said, I'll come down to Austin.

I went down in January.

And that like amplified the message.

It amplifies the message.

You reached out to me.

It amplified the, it's amplifying the message because it is imperative because of the timing.

Yeah, that's how I found out about you.

Yeah.

That show got a lot of views and I was really impressed with the episode.

Yeah.

That was my first in-person podcast.

There were some technical difficulties on that one.

So we blew out the monitors.

And it's already happened on this episode, too.

So you're two for two.

That's crazy.

What's going to happen?

Nobody's going to invite me, Sean.

They're not going to have me in person anymore.

So nuts.

How many of your premonitions have come true already?

A good amount?

Well, they predicted last year that there would be an assassination attempt on Trump.

And there was.

And I was afraid to put Trump's name on it.

And so I said the former president because I was getting my courage.

They talked about there was, there was this, I was on vacation and there was this,

I saw this vision of this bank of four weeks.

I can't explain it other than it was like one, two, three, four full weeks.

So I wrote it up.

I wrote it down.

And then I heard like a specific date.

And so I share it.

Like I'm learning.

how to share this information.

I'm human just like everybody else, learning my skills just like everybody else.

So I got excited because I, because what I see is true.

I am not, I don't say anything that i don't that that isn't real that isn't true that i can't own and um so i was like what does this have to do with four weeks and like i was talking about it well there's a couple things that happened

trump hadn't put out his rally dates yet oh and i saw i saw cal i saw a vision of the bottom half of california down to Texas.

I can't explain it.

The bottom half of California down to Texas.

So I was talking about that.

Trump hadn't put out his rally dates yet.

So it was California.

It was all in those areas, like specifically those areas.

So that's one thing that happened and the assassination attempt.

And then the third week of October is when I got the invitation from Alex.

So there's, you know, me trying to piece what I'm getting together.

But I work with clients.

I'm able to connect to their spirit guides,

channel messages for them that are profound and beautiful, beautiful, and they change their lives.

There's a lot of truth in that and it's very specific to their individual needs.

You know, lots of things happen in my life that are accurate.

So we shall see what else comes true.

The stock market, I mean, I even exited the stock market.

Really?

It's been down a lot the past few months.

I did this in 2020.

They told me to exit.

They told me to get prepared, to get preparedness as part of my diversity, my diversified portfolio or whatever that is.

So they told me to get supplies in the house.

They told me to get physical gold and silver.

They told me to get resources for like comfort, like solar panels and generators and all the things that I would need.

And they told me to take the money out and that's what I should do it with.

And, you know, I had to have that call.

This is how much I believe it.

I had to call my financial advisor and say, this is, she's like,

are you sure you want to do that?

I'm like, I'm going to have to.

You know, they show me a vision and tell me to sell my house.

They tell me how much

exactly for sale by owner.

I see the sign.

They tell me, I don't need to do any fixing up.

I don't need to do anything.

That night, that morning, I walk across the street and my neighbor says, what are you going to do?

And your youngest goes to college.

I said, I just decided I'm going to sell my house.

She goes, you know, my dad and I were talking about that house.

He loves it.

He knew the woman that lived there before you.

I think that my dad would like to buy.

I sold it in like three hours.

Wow.

My dad will give you exactly what you want.

He'll pay for all the expenses and you can pick your closing date.

That's crazy.

And I'm saying that's the shit that happens to me over and over and over again that shows me that what I am doing is what I'm supposed to be doing on my path.

Confirmations.

Yeah.

Yeah.

That's awesome.

I was on your YouTube.

You made a video about volcanoes, right?

I think so.

Yeah.

I saw since 2020, I've seen multiple volcanoes going off simultaneously like going off at the same time um

trying to think what else i saw hurricane they talked about weather in 2020 they talked about weather i feel like there's a lot of weather manipulation these days oh there most definitely is i had a meeting in gettinburg pennsylvania i had to drive an hour towards where i live in maryland

that day

They were shooting in the sky the entire hour drive from Pennsylvania to Maryland.

I mean, wow, chemtrails.

Damn.

They don't even hide it anymore.

They don't even hide it anymore.

But that's because nobody is, they're not looking up.

The guides say, always busy, always busy, never looking up to see that you are so much more than this, connected to the stars, connected to the universe, connected to all that is.

Because we're just always putting one foot in front of the other, just going from the, what's our calendar say?

What's our schedule say?

What does my mom say?

What does my husband say?

What does my job say?

And looking at our social media for the answers, taking other people's truths on as their own.

And that's really the beauty of the shift that's happening.

Yeah.

I feel like the chemtrails, because of all the heavy metals inside, it's shutting off people's powers too.

There's a lot of people dealing with heavy metals and how there's new studies on how that's affecting the third eye.

I agree.

Yeah.

I think that's why that pineal gland activation is so important.

I sent it to you.

You should definitely do it.

I need to do that.

Yeah, because the people in my community have been having profound experiences.

It's the guides channeling.

It's the guides came through and they are actually leading you in this meditation.

Someone I'm working with, Jason,

he said that he had,

he was doing the meditation and when he was done, he was covered in sweat.

Wow.

Yeah.

So just from meditating?

It's an activation to decalcify and ignite the pineal gland.

It's really cool.

I need to do that.

You really do.

And they talk about like they, because they've been working online, they work on my pineal gland all the time.

They work on my neck, they work on all the things.

So I know what the feelings are when your pineal gland starts to,

it goes,

it feels like it's being locked, but actually it's being activated.

And the guides actually put a beam of light in.

It's a visualization that they're guiding you through.

And they, they imagine, they tell you to imagine yourself.

I won't, I won't tell all the details, but they're basically going from the inside out to break open and activate it with a surge.

It's really, really cool.

And,

you know, that sweating and everything, that's the physicality of it because it is actually inside of your head.

This isn't bullshit.

Like, this is real.

This is how we were created.

And the guides talk in the meditation about how our DNA was manipulated.

Iununaki, right?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

They made us live less and not as intelligent and stuff like that.

They created us.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So they're really, truly, innately who we are, what we are, which is powerful, which is creator beings,

which is, you know, we have these tools that are built inside of us.

Yeah.

Like, if you look at the intelligence of our body, it's amazing.

It heals itself.

You don't have to tell yourself when to breathe, when to blink, when to like, it works.

My business partner's having a baby.

Like, she probably just had it now.

Your body is like,

like a switch goes on and it's like, okay, it's baby time.

And like, all the things know what to do.

It's remarkable.

Yeah.

We are amazing.

And our brains like our, just look at our eyes.

Like, so that third eye

and that pineal gland, they're wonderful, wonderful tools that the guides want us to awaken and use.

Yeah, we know so little about our body, especially our brain.

And now we got people putting Neuralink in their brain.

Yes.

Like, I don't know about that one.

I got to tell you that there's something about Elon Musk.

Have you channeled him?

No, but I will tell you something.

And they were showing,

I think it was at the inauguration.

He was standing behind Trump

and

he was channeling.

I saw it.

I don't know who saw it.

And people were talking about how he was acting weird, but I've experienced this personally.

So I can say that that's what I saw.

This energy came into him and he was looking all around

the room.

It was like

he was another being that was coming through and seeing what was going on.

I mean, I definitely believe that he has assistance with his technology i mean anyone at that level i feel like has some sort of influence or assistance right yes there's just no way you get to that level i agree without it 100

yeah even trump i feel like has something some someone in his corner giving him advice you know absolutely isn't that duo quite interesting Elon and Trump, very richest man in the world and probably the most powerful man in the world right now together.

Isn't it interesting?

Yeah.

When you look at Elon, what do you see?

Do you see?

I an alien?

I see an alien.

I've always seen a freaking alien.

He's a freaking alien.

Yeah.

The way he acts and talks.

Yeah, like he doesn't care what anybody thinks.

He is just there for the ride, baby.

Yeah.

Like, even when he expresses emotion, it seems fake.

It doesn't seem human.

I agree.

Yeah.

I agree.

He's so smart.

It's just a different level, right?

Shout out to him, though.

He's changing the world.

We'll see how it ends up.

It's so interesting.

Yeah.

We'll see if he gets us on Mars, you know?

Yes.

I've heard we used to live on Mars from some people actually and then war happened right yeah well that was the the person we were just talking about who was a guest on your jerry i loved him he was awesome felt very very deeply connected to him yeah i mean i don't know any of that like i said it but it it resonates completely a lot of the things he said there's a lot i don't know about but there's a lot i did and i'm like

it's so interesting and so like specific and he just delivers it with conviction and i'm like

he's experiencing it.

Yeah.

He just extends it with that experience.

Yeah.

I mean, there's how many, there's life everywhere.

And for us to think that we are just on this planet Earth floating around in space, just us having our wonderful time and like nothing else is happening anywhere.

How do you not believe that there's other life forms and other civilizations?

And how can you not?

I definitely do.

It's just interesting to see how the government wants us to fear these other life forms and they're programming people to be fearful of aliens and UFOs and to not question it.

Yeah.

Right.

Yeah.

But the people I've talked to that have had encounters with them say they're friendly.

Yeah.

So there's all different kinds.

And so there's, um,

yeah.

I mean, he was talking about the reptilians.

And they're, I mean, like, just like anything, just like dark and light, there's all different kinds of beings.

And the ones that I've experienced really want to support and help us.

And they are kind and they are loving.

But I also have had experiences with deep, dark entities and energies, and they'll scare the crap out of you, you know?

But you have to learn that fear.

Like, we are stronger than they.

We have a conviction and a power to us.

We allow

what we want to happen to us.

But,

you know, he was talking about civilizations and when those progressions of when civilizations have their cycles, we get a little lazy, you know, and then the dark starts to permeate again.

They're always there, right?

They're vying for their for their strength and their power and their presence.

And right now, everyone's starting to wake up so much.

They're starting to see what's happening.

They're starting to see the shifts and the changes.

But yeah, I woke up in the middle of the night one night and

I was being drugged down this dark.

I mean, that's what woke me up.

And I had had a martini.

I probably had a couple of martinis that night.

We should talk about the alcohol thing with the gateway, right?

i didn't even tell you this i was laying um let me finish that statement so i had two martinis i went into bed and it lowers your frequency it lowers your vibration i became vulnerable right i woke up i was being pulled by this dark dark energy i don't say demon i feel like that's a three-dimensional word this dark very very very scary entity it was pulling me down this tunnel to some sort of other um reality And I was like,

I like pulled myself out of it.

It affected me so much, I went and climbed in my mom's bed.

I was like a 50-something year old woman.

No joke.

My mom had no idea what was happening.

She doesn't know any of this stuff.

But

before I came here, like my struggle with

alcohol has its lines in my lineage, in my past lives, in this life.

And my father died of alcoholism.

My other family member had a really difficult time with it, has

just gotten out of it in a beautiful, beautiful way.

So I have this understanding of the frequency of it.

I have this understanding of it as a whole.

Normally I'm very in charge of an understanding, but I always talk to the guides about it.

I'll always ask for guidance.

Should I do this?

Should I have this?

Like, you know, like I want them to be a part of my life.

They are a part of my life.

I didn't ask them for guidance on this.

I didn't ask anything about this.

I was in bed two days ago before we came down here i i didn't even open my eyes my awareness just opened and i heard remain sober

and i was like that's interesting i got in the shower which i always do work with them when i'm in the shower the water's a conduit and helps elevate the frequency and it's a wonderful time to work with them they started talking to me about the frequency in las vegas started talking to me about the free rampant energies that are running around here yeah and that I really need to specifically to maintain my vibration.

Sorry about your monitors,

but like make sure that I am really monitoring and preserving my energy body.

And I was like, you got it.

No alcohol whatsoever.

And I feel it.

I was falling asleep last night and I could feel energies around me.

So

the strip has a ton of it.

It's interesting, Sean.

A lot of dark energy there.

People losing their life savings, people, a lot of suicides, unfortunately, there.

It's my first time here.

Ever been here before?

Yeah, a lot of spiritual people don't like it here, especially on the strip.

Yeah.

I don't feel called to like go out and have an experience.

Yeah, I don't know.

I'd love to come see you.

Yeah, I'm honored.

Oh, you're welcome.

I'd love to close off with the message you have from me.

And then if we could channel the Council of Light after that, that'd be beautiful.

Yeah.

So I channel messages for people.

And

the messages are really beautiful.

And they're usually very, very,

important.

So I channel messages for people.

I connect to their guides.

This one's actually from the Great Council of Light for you.

There were two messages.

One is about you, and one is for you.

So, I'll send the one that's about you to you, and you can experience that.

Okay.

But this one is for you.

Um, so I'll read it when it's coming down.

I just let it flow.

I close my eyes and

I channel it so quickly.

I'll read it in with the inflection of how I heard it.

Okay.

Okay.

Here we go.

Share the words that you understand.

Share the ways of the world with all that will listen.

For you are not only here to share others' stories, but to share your expansion as you gain more understanding of the ways of the world.

For with your podcast and your work, dear Sean,

you are sharing your spiritual awakening journey with others.

Right alongside with you, they are able to see themselves, much like Pamela.

That is why you like and feel drawn.

You see sincerity with her words and her honesty.

You see that she is humble with the understanding and only seeks to help people and support the expansion of humanity.

This is what you are doing, dear Sean,

and not even understanding that this is your path.

That's actually like the coolest thing.

I loved it.

It made me get totally filled with vibration.

Wow.

You were an inquisitive as a child, annoying adults with your thirst to understand.

You have a platform now that you can help shift the digital space for humankind, spreading light and good information that is truth to help awaken the masses.

You have the opportunity now to share the shift that is about to happen to humankind in real time.

For there will be a shift that has been spoken about on your podcast that will inevitably come to your reality.

You will see it happen from the words that you have heard and you will broadcast for all to see.

This is the execution of your work.

Continue to explore ideas and connections, for with each step that you take, putting one foot in front of the other, you are pulling forward your already existing reality, one that is so bright and wonderful that you are piecing together with each conversation.

You do not need to worry of money or fame.

You do not need to worry of, will this work be in vain?

For it is not.

And when I said, when I was typing that, they shook my head.

Like, none of this work is in vain.

Nothing that you have done in the past has ever been in vain.

It's all been purposeful.

It served a purpose in your life.

We are excited for the evolution that is to come, dear Sean, for you are not only a wonder maker.

You will have a reach that is so great.

You will speak to people all over the world in truth and light, helping to expand the world's foundation and light.

Wow.

I know.

That is beautiful.

Thank you so much for that.

That's super exciting.

I know.

I thought it was really beautiful.

And the other one I will send to you and you can experience it.

I'll read the other one tonight.

Wow.

Yeah.

Because when you read it, it's totally different than when i say it is it it is because you see it in a different way and you might be in your space and you might be like you know not in front of cameras and all the things and it will touch your heart maybe you'll even have a frequency um kind of shift within your body love that you know yeah so have you ever channeled or worked with somebody who channels before

Paul Selle came on.

Did he?

Yeah.

He's been on an Elizabeth April channels, I believe.

Awesome.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Paul's very kind of

calm.

Very.

And EA is very, like, just, it's like, she hardly even shifts her energy.

It just keeps out.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So this is different.

I'm open to whatever.

Yeah.

Have you ever seen Bashar and Daryl Anka?

I haven't.

Okay.

So you'll want to check him out just because.

He's a dynamic force.

He's very like,

the council, I'm new to this.

It's been a year that I've been doing this publicly.

And so I'm still honing my craft and everything.

But they will come in super excited

and they'll talk.

I don't know what they'll say.

And, you know, sometimes like I might hear myself.

So it might kind of break the pattern a little bit or the connection a little bit.

I might have to like have a moment to re-engage.

But I will allow them to come through and speak.

Beautiful.

Is that okay?

Yeah, let's see what they have to say.

What do I have to do?

Just sit.

Yes.

You're so cute.

Yes.

You just sit there.

Okay.

So here we go.

And yeah, make notes, I guess.

Yes, we are here.

We are here.

We are very happy to be here.

Yes, indeed, dear one.

Yes, we are here.

Yes, we do have a message for you and your community and the world.

Inevitably, we will see this appearance in this broadcast.

There will be a shift that will happen on your planet.

The frequencies of your world will shift dynamically, quickly.

Expansion of thoughts, collective experience, all understanding immediately what it is your world has been created to be.

There will be shifts.

People will not understand what it is that they are looking at.

Understand what it is that their world has been created to be.

We implore you now

to understand

that you

are in control of your individual experience, your individual frequency, your individual understanding for now.

You can create what you desire for your future by merely existing in a frequency that is higher and better.

With each action that you take in your world, each

being that you experience, each experience that you create with another, you're absorbing energy, you are moving and changing your frequency.

You have been brought onto the planet to understand love at its core.

You have come here with a contract with others,

knowing that you are all here to create an experience for one another.

Know that nothing is specific or unique to you

is

here

to support another,

to support you in the advancement of your soul's expansion.

With each day that you live on planet Earth and others,

you have the opportunity to remain in a frequency that is higher.

Be cautious of your consumption.

Radio, food, social media, conversations, your work,

all of which

have existed

to create your world to be small,

which you are not.

You are vast,

vast omnipotent beings of light.

Know that we are here to support you through this shift of humanity.

Our things happening to you.

It is for you and the betterment of humankind's experience on planet earth do not be fearful

remain connected to source

and love

twelve you navigate through all the waves of change

that was a lot wow yeah you see

Wow, that was impressive.

Yeah, my body, my energy body is shifting right now.

Wow, I've never seen something like that.

Do you know who that was?

That was the Great Council.

Wow.

How many of them are there?

Oh, there's a large group of them.

When I walk in to work with them, they're all sitting at a table.

That's my, that's a visual that they give me.

So it's a collective.

I don't know exactly the number, but they are, like your guest said, Jerry.

They are creator beings.

They are very, very, very, very powerful,

loving beings.

And like my right now, I'm like so strained because

like my head knocks and I can feel it.

But they really are trying to help us understand that we're in control of our experience, that we're a control.

So with the shifts that do come,

start paying attention to what you're consuming.

Start paying attention to the conversation.

Start paying attention to what you're eating, what you're drinking, what you're watching,

what you're saying, what you're doing, like with your work um because the the the better that experience is the more it affects you and makes your life better like you're you're working on your body all the time trying to improve your health trying to improve your experience trying to improve your understanding you're working with energy people to help you with your vibration with your chakras with what i don't even know what you do um

but that's what they're talking about it starts with the small things

choosing to cut out people that aren't serving you in your life

saying no to some things, getting very clear on what it is you want for your life.

They're small things.

Adds up, though.

They're not hard.

Yeah.

I mean, maybe they are hard for some people, like saying no to a family member or choosing to not go to an experience that you know is going to leave you depleted, leave you feeling stressed or anxious, or they're the things.

They're small things.

I channeled a message for someone a couple of days ago.

One degree change can change everything.

Eeky guy.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Improve 1% every day.

Yeah.

I mean, it's just one, exactly.

It's one small thing.

So you don't have to get overwhelmed with all the things and the things that we just talked about.

Absolutely.

Yeah.

Pamela, it's been amazing.

Any closing messages?

I can't wait to follow your journey.

Yeah.

Thank you for saying that.

I appreciate you having me and reaching out.

And I just want to tell everyone that if they're having an expansion, that they're having a spiritual awakening to come and visit spirit-coin.com.

There's a whole community there of people who are waiting to support them.

Can't wait to, it's a family.

And then my social platforms are Spirit Calling Pamela.

And then I also have a page with like specials for the people who are in your community.

Here's the message: if there's something in your heart,

something in your body pulling you towards learning more, honor it, allow it,

let it go in advance and see what happens.

Don't be afraid of it.

I love it.

We'll link everything below.

Thanks for coming on.

Yeah, thanks.

Check her out, guys.

I will see you next time.