The Truth About UFC & Modern Fighters I Colby Covington DSH #1232
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CHAPTERS:
00:00 - Intro
00:26 - Colby Covington - MMA Fighter
04:59 - Specialized Recruiting Group - Talent Acquisition
06:51 - Donald Trump - Political Influence
10:43 - Are You Ready to Die - Mental Toughness
11:12 - LeBron James - Basketball Greatness
13:11 - Mike Vick - NFL Controversy
14:47 - Are Sports Getting Soft - Athletic Toughness
16:24 - Steroids in Boxing - Performance Enhancers
19:14 - Trump Rally at MSG - Political Events
22:30 - Do You Want a Family - Personal Life
23:07 - Child Support - Family Law
24:48 - Climbing the Ranks - Career Progression
26:27 - Early Stoppages - Fight Referee Decisions
28:30 - Most Memorable Moment of Your Career - Career Highlights
31:13 - Did You Feel Held Back on Instagram Before Elon - Social Media Impact
32:45 - Your Relationship with Dana White - UFC Dynamics
35:10 - Will You Get Into Politics After Fighting - Future Aspirations
38:39 - Importance of Education - Lifelong Learning
39:05 - How You Met Blake - Personal Relationships
39:29 - Being the Best Poker Player - Poker Skills
42:18 - Collusion - Game Integrity
44:30 - Marked Cards - Cheating Methods
46:05 - Cheaters - Fair Play
50:02 - What to Promote - Branding Strategies
50:16 - Outro
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Transcript
In boxing or boxing.
Really?
Yeah, he's not that good.
Damn.
I've had some training partners that went and trained with him and they're like, he's not good at all.
Like, he's just, he juices up.
You know, you can tell he's a lab project.
He's got all these steroids and chemical imbalance.
You got all these, you know, pimples on his face and his back, which kids shouldn't have when he's at
his age.
I just don't think he's that big of a refiner.
All right, guys, out here in Vegas, got Colby Covington.
He's out here filming.
Thanks for coming on, man.
Thanks for having me.
I really appreciate it.
Yeah, full circle moment for you filming on that show again, right?
Yeah, full circle, man.
I was that kid early in my career that just really wanted to get to the UFC, would do anything to get on that Ultimate Fighter show because that was the platform to get into the UFC at the time.
And now here I am being able to give back some of my knowledge and wisdom that I've, you know, accrued through my career and help these guys try and understand what it takes to be a UFC fighter.
Must be such a surreal feeling, right?
Yeah, it really is.
You know, seeing these kids, you know, I see myself, you know, 15 years ago when I was just starting my journey and all I wanted, I would do anything to be a UFC fighter, even if it meant like how the UFC fighter rules are, which is to get locked in a house for five weeks with 18 other competitors and you're all competing for that one contract.
So, you know, it's a tough situation, but how bad do you want to be a UFC fighter is what the UFC is asking these kids.
Damn, so only one person gets a contract out of that show?
Only one kid.
That's insane.
Per weight class, yeah.
Holy crap.
It's a competitive,
competitive career.
You know, if you want to make it, you got to show that you're one of the best and you got to show how bad you're willing to go, how much sacrifice you're willing to make and, you know, how good you are to be there.
Do you still feel like you have that same drive as you did when you were on that show?
I do.
Yeah.
I still have that same hunger in my spirit.
You know, that same soul, that burning fire in my soul to compete and show the world that I'm the best in the world.
So I'm driven by hate.
Like I get a lot of hate, you know, in the MMA space and, and especially because I support President Trump.
A lot of people like to call me names and, you know, know, oh, he's racist.
He's fascist.
He's, you know,
misogynistic.
And so, you know, I like to prove haters wrong.
So that's why I still have that burning fire in my soul.
You might be one of the most hated fighters of all time.
Yeah, I would say probably the number one figure.
In my opinion, I don't know.
Just all the hate I get, all the death threats, you know, the bounties on my head.
You know, it's just.
Damn, you're actually getting death threats and bounties?
Yeah.
When I went to Brazil, you know, I, that's when I made my career.
You know, all these people are yelling at me, you buy more head, you buy more head, which means you will die when you walk to to the octagon.
Holy crap.
So I'm like, oh, you guys, you fans want to diss you.
You better be ready to take it.
So I went and beat their Brazilian legend, Damian Meyer, the number two guy in the world, like number two on the wins list in UFC history, and left him in a pool of blood.
And I said, all you Brazilians are filthy animals and your country is a dump.
And they took it personally.
They put a $50,000 bounty on my head.
They said they didn't want me to leave the country without being beheaded.
And, you know, that's how my career started.
Holy crap.
Yeah, I heard Brazil is pretty dangerous, actually.
Yeah, super dangerous.
I don't know if I'd want to go there just on vacation.
I think you would.
If you're sitting in a car and the windows rolled down, they're going to come by and snatch your iPhone right out of the car.
Yeah.
Good known for that.
They got some good fighters now though, right?
Alibera?
Yeah, they got some great fighters.
You know, the lineage from the Gracies, you know, the Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu lineage has really brought up fighters in Brazil.
And, you know, they realize that this is their way out of Brazil, out of the favelas, that tough, you know,
tough life that they have being broke.
This is the way to make money and become a professional athlete.
UFC.
Which country right now do you think has the best fighters?
I think USA still.
Really?
Yeah, I still believe USA is the centerfold for the best fighters in the world.
You know, we got the beautiful facilities out here in Las Vegas, Nevada, the UFC Performance Institute, and the UFC Apex.
So, you know, I think fighters that are the best where they come out of America.
Yeah, it's hard to beat America.
I mean, Russia looks like they're catching up, though, right?
Yeah, they're doing good.
They got some tough guys from Dagestan that are doing well, you know, but they have a champion or two, but which they've had.
But I just think like overall, I think overall we have better fighters.
You know, they have a couple of top runners, but they don't have a lot of depth.
So they have a lot of depth.
And I just think America is the best.
Yeah.
So last year was one of your worst years, right?
No, it was one of the best years.
You know, we won back to White House.
You know, fun back in office.
It's one of the best years of my life.
I'm at for fighting, but yeah, no, that's facts, though.
Yeah.
for fighting you know the bigger fight is trump being in office you know bringing down inflation keeping our country safe again keeping our borders secure keeping you know our cities cities safe so you know i look at the bigger fight and that's the the fight for america and putting america first again i you know i i put myself second you know my career comes second before you know america's career and the future of our country wow yeah i know you spent a lot of time campaigning that was probably a full-time thing for you last year yeah it was you know me and my buddy bow loud and we were traveling stop to stop we were you know in dallas one day we were in new york the next day for a rally we were in georgia the next day alabama just we were going everywhere wherever president trump would be we would be so you know all right.
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Now that's our fighter.
He's the greatest fighter we've ever had in America.
So we wanted to fight for him.
We wanted to show off for him and just show any type of little support we could and just rally people around and show them that this is the biggest fight that we've ever had in America is to take back that presidency.
What's he like off camera?
Is he the same guy?
No, he's off camera.
He's the funniest guy I've ever met in my life.
Every time I see him, he has a joke.
Like his sense of humor is out of this world.
He's like larger than life.
He's so funny.
He's always cracking jokes.
It's never serious talk around him.
It's always just jokes.
Like he just wants to have a good time and enjoy his life.
You know, of course, when it's on camera, it's business time and he's the best businessman we've ever seen in America.
What he's been able to build with the Trump Empire, the Trump organization, it's second to none.
So he's doing that with America.
You know, he's, you know, he understands basic economics.
So he's done great things for our country.
But off camera, he's just a funny guy.
Yeah.
Aloha.
Him and Elon are a deadly combo, man.
They are.
They are.
I call them the Avengers.
Those are two guys that just, they were made to be together.
They just, the yin and yang.
They just have such great things and they have great chemistry too.
So it's amazing to see them on the world seas, world scene pissing off all these politicians.
Yeah.
Their confrontation with Zelensky was insane.
Oh my God.
That's never been showcased before or something like that.
Never, no.
But that's how it's got to be.
You know, we're the strongest country in the world.
We have the greatest military in the entire world.
So, you know, you're not going to come over here and make threats to us, especially when we've given you hundreds of billions of dollars.
Like, who do you think you are, Zelensky?
like you're acting like a privileged entitled little kid we've given you 400 billion what else do you need from us you know yeah go get help from the european countries from nato for real are you a fan of any foreign aid at all
not really just because you know i want to put america first you know we have you know a lot of homeless people on the streets you see it in vegas you see it in all these big cities you know let's clean up our own cities let's you know, keep our borders safe.
Let's put more money into the military.
You know, we've forgotten about our veterans that go out there and fight overseas for these wars, just for these politicians to make them rich.
Let's get back to our military.
And that's kind of why I started a recent
charity for America's Champions Foundation.
You know, I started it with my friends.
All my friends are either police, staff sergeants, sergeant majors in the army.
um navy combatants and we're like hey how can we use my platform to get back to good for the people that we're forgetting our heroes so you know i started america's champions foundation we're having this uh charity poker tournament at the hard rock in in Fort Lauderdale, Florida on April 2nd.
And 100% of the proceeds go back to the troops and to our veterans.
Wow.
That's important, Matt.
I mean, that's so cool.
The homeless problem is a major issue.
But when you see states like Cali getting a ton of money for it and no results, it kind of pisses me off.
Yeah, no results.
I mean, the hundreds of millions of people out there, you know, on the streets in Tent City, and it just, it doesn't make for a safe environment for the people that live in that community.
So we need to clean that up, you know, and not incentivize them.
Look how they're incentivizing them in California.
They're getting them small traces of heroin.
Hey, as long as you do these drugs, but you do them from the government, it's safe to do
what?
What?
No, it's not as safe to give bums heroin or meth or whatever you're giving them and crack pipes, you know.
No, let's get them off the streets.
Let's, let's promote good health and, and, you know, being a, being a good Samaritan.
I hate to say it, but I don't know if homelessness will be fixed from the government.
I think it has to be people like you, people that have influence that go out there and do it.
Yeah.
You know, because I'm just giving money to the state or the city doesn't work.
That's true.
You know, they just keep the money somehow.
Yeah.
That's, I went recently and was donating a bunch of cheeseburgers, a couple hundred cheeseburgers to some homeless in Fort Lauderdale for with my sponsor BC Game.
And
all the homeless were saying, hey, these shelters were built in place, but they're not helping us with anything.
You know, the government's giving them, you know, tons of money, but we're not seeing any of that.
And so, you know, even the people out there are saying they just feel helpless because no one wants to help them.
Damn, that's messed up, dude.
I mean, it doesn't shock me anymore, especially seeing Elon investigate some of these organizations.
I mean, the Social Security one was crazy.
There's millions of dead people claiming the money.
That's our tax dollars.
It's our tax dollars.
And then wasn't there one like 56 million for Sesame Street?
You understand or something like that?
The condoms one, too.
The condoms, come on.
I mean, we work hard for our money, dude.
You're out here literally risking your life for money.
Yeah.
And then you're giving 40% of it to the government and they're spending it on that.
I know.
It makes me sick, bro.
I've lost a lot of brain cells to get gotten in my career and in my financial security and to give away 40%.
You know, I've given away millions of dollars to the government and just to see where it's going right back into either the arms of the politicians or the military industrial complex overseas is just, it's despicable.
It's nuts.
I've heard you say on Hodge Twins that you're ready to die when you enter that ring.
I am, yeah, except every time the, you know, backstage that this might be the end of my life.
And, you know, if it is, at least it's doing something I love and what I'm passionate about, which is fighting and martial arts and expressing myself.
And, and if I do die in that moment, then it's okay.
that is a crazy mentality man yeah for real fighting is dangerous bro it's not it's not for the for the weak you know it's not for you know people like lebron james who they get a cramp and they're gonna sleep a couple weeks yeah so i saw you call him out for the china stuff right yeah he's he's a chinese finger puppet he makes all his money in china you know he's he's over there you know he's his all his merchandise is done in china with all these women that are working for pennies on the dollar in these chinese labor sweatshops so you can't talk about equality if you're not really about equality what about the women in china that you're employing for cents on the dollar but you're making hundreds of millions lebron how do you care about equality oh you don't you're a hypocrite you're fake and i'm gonna call you out every time for it are you talking about his shoes or like what what what's being made in china for him yeah his shoes his shirts all his merchandise damn is made in so is nike in china then yeah yeah yeah so i guess you could say that about all their talent done a lot most of it i know you're a fan of mj but damn yeah they're making them cheap over there making them cheap cheap, man.
I'm a fan of Made in America, but at a certain point, if it doesn't make sense business-wise, I've outsourced other countries.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
Because sometimes it's just so expensive.
That's true.
So from that point of view, I get it.
I get it.
Yeah, but he definitely has some weird ties.
I'm not going to lie.
Yeah, he has some weird ties.
Like, what do you think he meant when he said ain't no party?
Like, it did he?
You can't come back from that one.
It sucks though, because I'm a fan of hoops and I like his game, but off-court, like, it just pissed me off, dude.
Yeah.
You know?
Yeah, he's a great athlete, but as a person, he's a terrible human being.
Yeah.
You know, even during the BLM riots, you know, he's putting targets on first responders and law enforcement officers' backs, like saying they're the enemy.
But then he's going behind the scenes.
Oh, yeah.
Police, please protect my family.
Give us private security whenever you want.
But oh, no, police are the bad guys.
Black Lives Matter.
It's just disgusting.
Yeah, BLM was the truth has come out about BLM.
Yeah.
And it's nasty.
Yeah.
The way they spent that money.
I've seen like two of the
owner had like two mansions in California that they got burned down.
Oh, it got burnt?
Yeah.
Damn.
So what are they going to do now?
They have to start another organization to scam the American people.
So messed up.
Yeah.
You also called out Mike Vick.
You want him in prison for life?
Yeah.
I can't believe that they think that he should be a college coach.
This guy was inhumane.
He killed dogs.
He fought dogs for years.
You don't come back from that when you do something like that to an innocent animal.
I mean, I care so much about animals.
They don't have a choice of who's their owner is going to be or how people are going to treat them so you know it's just disgusting that there's all these other great americans and great uh qualified coaches that should be that job and you get mike vick this this dog killer this dog murderer and dog just neglector a job over these people that have worked so hard to just have you know no criminal backgrounds it just it doesn't make sense to me yeah i feel like they pick and choose who to kick out right because they kicked out colin kaepernick for nailing on the anthem but then they let him back in in the league yeah makes no sense kind of weird i mean i wasn't a fan of the kneeling too but the dog fighting seems worse to me if i could pick one yeah that's true you're killing innocent dogs yeah innocent dogs like that's so sad you know the kneeling too like i i can't even watch football anymore it's just it's not bearable to me we start kneeling on our national anthem like Those are my heroes.
Those are the people I looked up to more than anybody in the world.
The first responders, military veterans.
And when you kneel on the flag that they fight for, that flag is everything to them.
They look at that flag like it's their mother, like it's like it's their god, God.
and they're willing to die for it.
They're willing to go overseas and die for it.
So, all these athletes that are privileged can have this great lifestyle, make multi-millions of dollars, and make more money than they should be making to play a kids' sport.
And, you know, it's just pathetic that they nail on that.
So, I can't support that.
I can't watch football.
Do you feel like a lot of sports are getting soft these days?
Yeah, just they're being, they're sold and they're buying out, you know, like basketball, they're, you know, they sold out to China, you know, all their logos, all the stupid little slogans they have on the jerseys, equality, and, oh, racism, it's back, this and that.
Like, it's just, they're just, they're just trying to really create a lot of conflict within this country, and it's not right.
Yeah, yeah, basketball is high soft, man, compared to Jordan's era.
It's tough to watch now, man.
It is, the flopping.
Oh, my gosh, these players are just, yeah, they're so soft, dude.
Yeah, I love it.
Same with football, honestly, because you can't tackle certain ways now.
I mean, I get it because people are getting injured, but yeah it's not the same it's not the same yeah super bowl was tough to watch dude did you watch that game i didn't i didn't watch it no it was tough was it i mean everything feels scripted yeah you know what i mean exactly and even a lot of fights like i don't know about ufc but boxing a lot of it feels kind of fake yeah right like the jake paul stuff yeah oh yeah that's that's all fake
I think he's paying all his opponents.
I've heard from some guys are like, yeah, he's paying those guys to take dives and it's all just scripted.
Like you could tell in the Tyson fight, I was there live and Tyson's like biting his claws.
Like you could tell he's like holding back and he wants to go.
And there was like a couple people that heard Jake saying, hey, you better not go crazy or you're not going to get paid.
Wow.
So yeah, he's.
That's messed up, man.
That gimmick fights, man.
It's just, that's why UFC is the greatest organization in the world because, you know, it's as real as it gets.
And they put the best fighters against each other.
And there's no script.
It's as real as it gets.
And we're going to fight to the death.
Yeah.
Modern day gladiators.
Do you think if you fought Jake Paul, you'd win?
Oh, yeah.
I'd win with one hand tied behind my back.
In boxing or?
Boxing.
Really?
Yeah, he's not that good.
Damn.
I've had some training partners that went and trained with him, and they're like, he's not good at all.
Like, he's just, he juices up.
You know, you can tell he's a lab project.
He's got all these steroids and chemical imbalance.
You got all these, you know, pimples on his face and his back, which kid shouldn't have when he's at
his age.
And I just don't think he's that good of a fighter.
How common is juicing?
It's very common among combat sports.
I mean, any sport, you know, you look at the Barry Bonds era and Mark McGuire and baseball is so prevalent.
Football, you know, it's prevalent in football and
all sports.
You know, everybody's looking for advantage because there's so much money on the line.
I thought they cracked down on it, though.
Did they not?
They did, but like, as you've seen in like that documentary, Icarus on Netflix, like the Russian doping scandal, like they have good chemists.
They have good doctors.
They are able to mask these steroids inside your body.
They're able to put, you know, IVs in you to thin.
uh the blood in the water so yeah you can't test for it so people they found ways to beat it That's crazy.
And how much of an edge does it give you, Dink, in fighting?
I mean, I don't know because I've never tasted it.
In other words, I've only been natural, but I can imagine it gives you a massive edge because I was training with a kid one time a couple of years ago.
And I trained with him one week and like he couldn't go a minute.
And he did EPL, which is like the drug that Lance Armstrong was doing during the tour de France.
And he did the EPL.
He was shooting it up in his butt.
He came back the next week.
He was going like 10 rounds straight and he still wanted to go around.
So I'm like, bro, damn, what happened?
What's the difference between this week and next week?
And he didn't didn't want to tell me.
And then I literally walked to pick him up one day for training.
And I walked in on him when he was literally putting the needle on his ass.
Bro, what is that, bro?
Oh, he's like, this is EPO, bro.
Don't say anything between me and you.
And like, and so I realized it makes a huge difference because this kid couldn't go a minute the week before.
He's gassing out instantly.
The next week, he's doing 10, 10, five-minute rounds like he's a madman and he still has energy afterwards.
That's nuts.
So it gives you a huge edge.
Huge edge.
Wow.
Massive.
It's crazy.
Do you think Ryan Garcia did did some steroids because he got caught allegedly right yeah allegedly it looked kind of weird though it looked super shady i don't think so i like ryan too so i don't think so just the way he beat devin haney and and you know his dad they always make excuses you know they clip the l they got to take that l you know it's his first l so he just you know there was a lot of inconsistencies with the test like supposedly the drug testing agency was like a second uh drug testing agency hired by bill haney by devin's dad so that's a conflict right there yeah it's a conflict of interest 100 yeah that alone should rule it out if it's hired by his father yeah exactly i mean you could pay them off or whatever which is i think it got dropped right i don't even know if it's still i don't know yeah he announced his next fight yeah did you see the trivante fight the other day i didn't get to see it i was over at the spear so oh i was up it was sick have you heard that emo show no i heard it dope god you guys see it bro yeah dude insane some of the visuals
insane like they put this freaking robot on the screen it's just some of the things it does on the screen it's just absolutely incrazy so shout out to the dolan family you know we got a relationship with chris don james don't they're great people that's awesome did you meet them through uh trump's team yeah i met them through trump's team and actually bowl out and bow loud introduced me to chris don't we went to a knick's game together we went out to madison square garden because the garden they own the sphere as well and that's where we did the trump rally back in uh october that rally was nuts that now that rally was amazing did you speak at that one no i didn't get to speak but we sat in the owner's box with james dylan dolin and chris don't and we had a great time man we got to be on the floor walk around it was crazy to see all the speakers that they had there i thought he was going to win new york after that rally actually i did too they had like not only did they have a sold out madison square garden they had like 50 000 people lined up outside all the way down to the hudson river crap i didn't know that yeah because kamala wouldn't have been able to do that no chance it would have been empty in there she couldn't even fill up a high school gymnasium
yeah when he lost new york i gotta say i was shocked because of that rally dude i mean 100 000 people yeah everybody was shocked they thought he he was a shoe-in to win that like all the support he gets out there like yeah it's not what the media the media will never show you though that though they never will show you that there's you know hundreds hundreds of thousands of people wind up in a blue you know new york city they want you to you know believe that the propaganda they tell you that new york's blue and they hate his policies yeah i think tides are turning i grew up in jersey actually i think they might vote red in 28 it's looking good you think so i think so, yeah.
That'd be awesome.
We got people out there going door-to-door, really campaigning.
Okay.
And I don't know how people can vote left these days.
I know.
I mean, there's no one, I try to stay pretty objective.
There's no one that really impresses me on the left right now.
No.
You know,
who's their next front runner?
Like, who can they even put out next?
People are saying Newsome, A-O-C, but they don't impress me, to be honest.
No.
You know?
Well, look what Newsome's done with California.
I mean, it's a disaster down there.
It's terrible, man.
I know why you live in Miami.
Yeah.
Miami's nice.
How long have you been out there?
I've been out there 15 years now.
Oh, damn.
So that's a minute.
Yeah.
It's been, it's been fun.
You know, great climate out there.
A lot of beautiful mama sitas and women's.
You know, I'm a single bachelor.
So, of course, you know, I like to, you know,
get new dates every day.
Is that by choice?
Cause you're so locked into fighting?
Yeah.
Like you don't have time for dating.
I think it's by choice, but it's also partial because the girls in Miami just, they don't have good values, you know, no morals and their moral compass is off.
All they care about is money.
They just want rich guys.
And, you know, even if the guy's 70 and they're 20, it's okay.
As long as you're going to give us on a yacht, take us around the world in your private jet, go to all these expensive places, get me coach bags.
That's all they care about.
They call them 304s, right?
Exactly.
Fresh and fit podcast is out there just roasting them every day.
Yeah, that's probably the worst downside of Miami, right?
The dating scene for guys.
Yeah, it's the worst.
Everything else is solid.
The networking, the weather, food's good.
Yeah.
But dating is just, man.
damn, that's rough, dude.
Yeah.
Do you want, do you want like a solid girl by your side, though?
Yeah, I think, I think, you know, who doesn't want that?
You know, that's like the dream for every, I mean, in my opinion, for every person growing up as a man, you know, you want to have a family, you want to be the man in the house, you want to have kids and a legacy to leave behind.
Yeah.
I think that's important, but I don't want to do it with the wrong girl and give her half my money.
That's
definitely don't want to do that.
Get that prenup.
get that prenup.
Sometimes those don't, you know, hold in core.
You know, the women, they have a lot more rights than men these days it didn't hold up for uh who was it bezos bezos yeah i don't think it held up for him yeah and now his ex is like the fifth richest person exactly crazy just for being what you know yeah i don't know if i'm a fan of 50 honestly no like
i think you should take care of them take care of the kids if you have kids but 50 is like
and these child support numbers holy crap they're out of this world especially for someone like you because it's based off your salary yeah So you'd have to give up.
It's five figures a month, probably.
Yeah.
And then you look at like a guy like Elon Musk.
I mean, look at the baby baby mamas of him.
Look at that recent one.
It actually St.
Clair.
She's out there just claiming that they had the kid and she wants like millions of dollars now.
She wants full custody, too.
And full custody.
Come on.
Yes.
That's nuts.
That's gross.
Shout out to Elon.
He's just at his 14th.
Yeah.
That's insane.
It's amazing, man.
He's global.
He's trying to add those numbers of population.
Yeah.
His legacy will be around for a while now.
He's not going anywhere anytime soon.
Yeah.
You want kids?
Yeah, I want kids.
What about you?
Same.
I'm getting married this year.
Oh, Oh, congratulations.
Thanks.
I want at least two, I'd say.
At least two.
I grew up in Only Child and pretty lonely.
So I think Only Child is tough.
It's tough.
You turned out so good, though.
You're so smart.
I'm decent, you know?
Yeah.
But that's the thing we share is like that victim mentality.
Like we had different upbrings, but a lot of people grew up like I did and they didn't end up like me.
Okay.
So it's all how you internalize it.
That makes a lot of sense.
Yeah.
Did you have siblings?
Yeah, I had two sisters.
How was that?
It was cool.
You know, I always wish I had a brother that I could play sports with and stuff but it was cool to have sisters where i could protect them and look after them and if anybody touched them they knew that deal colby like i was coming to fight him were you the oldest brother i was the middle oh the middle i felt like the oldest yeah yeah just because i wrestled and i do martial arts my whole life so like i felt like i was the old brother i feel that so i think you're ranked number eight now in your division uh you think you could climb the ranks this year Oh, for sure.
100%.
If I want to climb the ranks and be champion again, I will be champion.
You know, my last fight was an early stoppage.
It was a little cut that I had over my eye.
I was going to win the fight.
You know, it was 1-1 going in the third round.
And we had two more rounds to go.
And the doctor was the DEI doctor.
She doesn't know what to do.
You know, we're in Tampa, Florida, and they don't have fights there very often.
So if this is in Vegas, that fight keeps going and I win the fight and I'd still be ranked top, you know, five in the world.
I think I was number four at the time.
So, you know, if I want to be the champion, the guy that's champion right now is a good matchup for me.
He can't beat me anywhere.
So who's champion right now?
Oh, this guy, Bilal.
Oh, yeah, I know.
Yeah.
remembered the racists you know he said he said the only reason i got a title fight my last title fight was because the color of my skin white privilege wow yeah people still play that card people still play that card yeah blows my mind crazy right yeah i'm happy di's gone at least that's true i know yeah bilal he he won that at the sphere right that was the title fight there no that was rob oh marab okay yeah that was a great fight too damn yeah i think you'll climb it man number eight you got any fights planned this this year nothing planned right now, just because I'm coach of the ultimate fighter.
So, you know, first and foremost, I want to give back to these kids and help these kids achieve their dreams.
I've done great things with my life and my career.
So I want to help give them some wisdom to go on and reach the heights that I've reached in my career.
And then after the season is done, and I think it's a couple of weeks left.
We have three weeks left.
Then I'll start looking for the biggest and best business we can do within the company.
Talk to Hunter Cam.
We'll talk to Dana White and sit down.
So maybe International Fight Week this summer back in Vegas makes the most sense.
That'd be cool, man.
Do you think they should change how stoppages work?
Because you said it was an early stoppage.
Has that happened to you a few times now?
No, it's never.
It's the first time it's ever happened to me.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
Literally, when I was in Brazil, I had that same exact cut.
The scar tissue was in the same exact place, and my face was bleeding.
Like it was so bad, blood dripping down my face, like through my eyes, couldn't even see.
Yeah.
But I kept fighting because I'm a warrior.
This is what I want.
I signed up to go out on my shield.
Let me go out on my shield like a warrior.
So, you know, in that fight, I came back and I won with the cut.
And this fight, you know, it was still draining over my face, but I was coming back.
The momentum was changing and I was walking this guy down.
And then the girl doctor comes in.
Oh my God.
I've never seen anything like that.
Oh my God, you're going to lose your eyelid, Colby.
This fight stopped.
No, it has to stop.
I'm like, what?
Are you shooting?
Like, you're a woman.
You're not a man.
You don't understand what it takes to fight inside the octagon.
Obviously, you've never seen fights before, so you don't understand what you're looking at.
And just, it sucks because I feel like I got robbed.
You know, now I'm, you know, down at number eight in the rankings when I know I'm the best fighter in the world still.
So, you you know it's unfortunate but you know i'm not gonna cry and i'm not gonna play victim i'm just gonna work harder and i'm gonna come back stronger yeah yeah that must be frustrating that used to happen in nate diaz a lot too yeah i think when there's a lot of blood it scares them but yeah sometimes when you have what you talked about the scar tissue just bursts right just bursts man these little bones over your your eye your eye your cheeks and eyelids are just they're really they stand out you know so when they get hit they get nicked they they cut easily especially from the little ufc gloves they're four ounce gloves yeah they're not 12 ounce gloves or 10 ounce gloves like boxing.
That's annoying, though, because if I was your opponent, I would take advantage of that.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
For sure.
I would try to make you bleed.
Yeah.
So
maybe he knew that and went for it.
Well, that's the worst part is like he didn't even hit me and make it bleed.
It was like I was wrestling and I was taking him down and my, my, my, uh, my eye bone bounced off his hip.
Oh.
So that's what caused the cut.
It wasn't even like a punch.
And then once he saw it, he started targeting me.
He started jabbing.
He started trying to open it up more, you know?
Damn.
That's rough.
It's rough.
It's bad luck, you know?
Holy crap.
Which fight do you think about the most in your whole career?
Probably the one that I won the world title, Rafael Dos Sanchos in Chicago, because that's the one that got me to the White House.
I was the one that, you know, got a call from the sitting president, Donald Trump, and got me to go to the Oval Office.
Like, I never thought as a kid coming from a small town in Oregon where nobody makes it out, all the people in Oregon just work in the mill.
Here I am on the biggest stage, becoming the world champion and getting a call from a sitting president to go visit the Oval Office.
That's cool.
Nothing will ever top that.
Yeah.
Was that your most memorable moment of your whole life, you think?
Without a doubt.
Yeah.
So Trump actually called you?
He actually called me right now.
Great fight, Colby.
I thought that was a great speech.
I appreciate you saying you want to come to 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, and we're going to have you out next week.
And I was like, what, Mr.
Are you serious, Mr.
President?
He's like, yeah, Colby, yeah, we'll see you soon.
I'll get your flight arrangements.
We'll get everything worked out, you know, and I'll see you soon in the White House.
And then here I am, you know, in the White House in 2019 and sitting in the Oval Office.
All these senators are walking out, you know, the rhino Lindsey Graham's walking out, all these other, you know, big name senators.
And here I am, just some UFC fighter from Oregon who's sitting, getting ready to go meet with the President Donald Trump.
He's working on all these issues, you know, about saving money, keeping America first.
And here I am just going in there to deliver my UFC title to the president.
Just so surreal.
That's legendary, man.
It blows my mind when people turn down that offer because the Eagles just turned it down.
They did end up turning it down?
Yeah.
Wow.
Which is crazy because I saw like a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity.
Yeah.
Even if you're not Republican, like you should at least experience it in my opinion.
Yeah.
100%.
And they turned it down in 2019 as well.
That's funny.
Because when they turned it down, that was kind of the reason that I was able to get pushed to the front to go right away.
They're like, hey, the Philadelphia Eagles turned it down.
So now Colby Covington gets to come and take their spot.
It's so crazy, though.
Like you should go and like experience it no matter what like political belief you have.
Yeah.
Agree to disagree.
Like you do, that's the highest honor in America to go to the Oval Office and to the White House.
Like, that's the most historic building in American history.
How could you not go pay respects to it?
No matter what side of the aisle you're on.
You don't have to be cool with Trump or say good things about him, but just go and experience it, man.
Like, show that you're proud to be an American, the country that gives you everything.
There's a reason you're making, you know, $50, $100 million in the NFL.
It's because of this great country, America.
Go try China.
Go try Canada.
Go try all these other countries.
You're not going to be able to make that same money anywhere else, but America.
Can't make it and you can't say anything.
Yeah.
We got free speech here.
That's right.
Yeah.
Well, we didn't for a little bit on your, you know, who, but now we do again.
Now we do.
Elon really saved that with buying X, man.
That was like the, the start of it all, of saving free speech.
Did you feel held back on X before Elon?
Without a doubt.
Like I had like 700,000 followers.
They took away like 300,000 followers right before the election.
Damn.
Yeah, it was bad.
I was like losing thousands every day.
I was like, what is going on?
Like, I was telling my buddy John, like, how is this possible?
He's like, dude, like freaking twitter they're they're really throttling any account that is conservative and especially because my main picture is with donald trump in the oval office so they made sure i was like the the biggest throttled account from the republican side instagram as well you know they wouldn't let me get one more follower since since i put up that picture with donald trump as my main picture in the instagram bio in 2019 they haven't let me get one more follower i've had one million since 2019 but i've been in two title fights you know the main event fighting t-mobile arena selling a million pay-per-views you know all these big events all these political rallies, and they won't let me get one follower.
It's just, it's just, it's so sad that free speech has been taken away and they won't let the truth be heard.
Same here, dude.
I've been, uh, I posted a photo of Trump Jr., not even Trump.
So they must have an algorithm on him, too.
And I didn't gain a follower for two years.
And I get 100 million views a month on Instagram.
And I'm not growing followers.
I'm losing followers some months.
And that's crazy.
It probably makes you not ever want to be involved, right?
I mean, it sucks.
I need it to go viral and stuff, but I get more views from non-followers than followers because they throttle your reach.
Yeah.
So like none of my followers see my shit.
Isn't that crazy?
It's crazy.
Just completely shadow banned.
Yeah.
We'll see if Dana joining their board helps.
I don't know.
That's true.
Hopefully it does.
I think it might because he will speak his mind at least.
True.
What's been your relationship with Dana like over the years?
It's been up and down.
The last couple of years is it's very gravy.
It's smooth.
I'm very thankful to Dana White for all the opportunities he's given me for the opportunity to meet Donald Trump.
He's the one that was able to call Donald Trump and get that, get that meaning to go to the White House and Oval Office and deliver my world championship.
So I'm super grateful for Dana.
Early in my career, I wasn't, but I didn't see things the right way.
You know, I was very,
you know, just in my own world.
You know, I thought I was done unjust and I thought that, you know, I was taken advantage of, but, you know, I, I, I didn't realize that you got to, if you want to eat something, you got to kill it.
You kill what you eat or you eat what you kill.
So, um, you know, I started self-marketing, doing better promotion, and they started paying me better so super thankful to dana white all the the privilege and opportunities he's given us in the ufc and you know just love everything that he stands for as far as freedom and and not putting a muzzle on any fighter he lets anybody speak their voice no matter what side of the aisle you're on he's not going to muzzle you you can say whatever you want so god bless staying on the ufc i love it yeah love him or hate him he's a straight shooter he is he'll tell it to your face too he will yeah he's not afraid yeah and doesn't matter how big you are how tough you are no he'll tell it straight to your face that's why i love it yeah he's so smooth yeah it doesn't seem like he fears anyone does not fear anybody yeah both sides yeah yeah he's he's not afraid to have a debate with you you know he'll just debate facts and and tell you the truth of what's going on and if you like it too bad before i even was a fan of the ufc i would watch his press conferences just to see how he talks because he's one of the best talkers i've ever seen yeah honestly he's probably the best talker i've ever seen besides donald trump just public speaking he's just on point you cannot you cannot trip him up on anything and he's just so well versed in everything pop culture politics, you know, the world.
Yeah.
There's no gotcha moments with him.
You're not going to get him saying some wild shit.
See that?
Yeah.
Yeah.
There's no clips you could put up that are memes that are going to make him look stupid.
Facts.
And he came back from a lot.
Cancel culture tried to get him, you know.
They did.
He came back from it.
I think cancel culture is dead, honestly.
I think it is too.
Yeah.
I don't fear it anymore.
I used to actually fear it, like posting photos with certain people, but now I'm like, whatever, dude.
Yeah.
You know, now we got back control of the government.
We got, we, the people, are back in charge.
You know, we, we put back our leader and you know, he doesn't stand for that.
If they that cancel concert is not going to work, you know.
Yeah.
So it's good that we got Donald Trump back in.
Do you think you'll get into politics off the fighting?
I would like to.
I think it would be cool.
You know, I think it'd be fun to serve and fight for the people to be in a position where you're serving the public.
I think that would be awesome.
You know, I'd love to fight for the people and
just do right by people.
I've made a great life for myself.
So now I just want to get back to other.
I think that's my mission and motivation going forward.
So
if I can get into some political office where I'm giving back and making sure that people have the power, then I think that'd be my greatest honor.
That'd be cool.
Maybe a cabinet position under Vance.
Yeah, maybe under Vance Ron's next campaign.
Yeah, maybe even this one.
You know, I'd like to get on that Make America Healthy Again train.
You know, who a better guy to preach to the kids in the schools around the country than someone who's been healthy his whole entire life since I was five years old.
32 years of, you know, good health and training and reaching goals.
so you know my big thing i want to make sure kids you know are being healthy with their fitness you know when i was a kid we used to have this thing called the the national and presidential fitness awards i don't know if you know what that is oh i never heard of it so it was like it was in these schools and these kids if they reached these goals like for a mile if they ran a mile in seven minutes and they got the presidential fitness award if they did in eight minutes and they got the national fitness award so they were kind of incentivized to have good times and be healthy and and and reach your fitness goals now we've went away from that.
Now, you know, these kids, they're taught to be obese, play video games and eat the slop in the cafeteria, which is absolute trash food.
And we're not making these kids healthy and putting good things in their body and telling them to work out and have physical exercise.
I think that's important.
I think kids got to have physical exercise.
They got to get out there, be healthy.
And, you know, that just opens up everything.
It's going to help you be a lot smarter in your brain.
I think there's a lot of chemicals.
It releases serotonin and whatnot.
So that's my big issue right now.
I want to get on the Make America Healthy Again training.
I want to bring back the National and Presidential Fitness Awards.
That'd be great.
They should definitely bring that back, man.
My gym teachers were fat growing up.
Yeah, right.
How does that relate?
Yeah.
There should be a weight limit for gym teachers, you know?
You want to teach gym, but you're going to be fat?
No, no fat person is in the gym, you know?
Nah, nah, that never made sense to me.
Nah.
Yeah.
Kids these days, a lot of distractions, man.
I think it's probably harder to be healthier now.
I think it is.
As a kid.
Yeah.
Because before there wasn't iPhones, so we weren't addicted to scrolling.
Now we used to go outside as kids.
Yeah.
I don't see that anymore.
Nah, these kids, I see a lot of kids like my friend's kids.
They just sit on an iPad all day, just playing all these different apps.
I'm like, how is that benefiting them?
How are they getting smarter?
How are they, you know, being healthier?
You know, they're just sitting and eating fast food and McDonald's and just scrolling these iPads.
So
this is what we should be teaching our kids.
We should teach them, go play as many sports as you want.
Just, you know, so you're busy and you're staying active and you're being healthy.
And then, you know, let's talk about the things that are in our foods, you know, like even, you know, RFK starting to expose that, all these seed oils, pesticides, all these preservatives like in our foods.
Like, why are we, why are these all in our American foods?
Like, let's take this out and let's stop poisoning the people.
Yeah, it's terrible.
Food and water.
The fluoride's tough.
Fluoride.
I mean, that's been proven to drop IQ.
So our kids these days are dumber than we were when we were growing up.
Yep.
And, you know, I've always tried to drink bottled water and stay away, you know, and but it's tough, you know, not a lot of people can afford bottled water.
Yeah.
You have to drink out of the tap.
So yeah, we need to, we need to pull back that.
But hopefully, Doge will go after that and expose all the corruption among water and our food.
Yeah, 100%, man.
Yeah, it's needed.
These children are the future of our country.
Yeah.
And if they're not, I mean, plus the education is terrible.
Oh, it's so bad.
I mean, I don't know.
You went to public school?
Yeah, I went to public school.
I mean, did you learn anything?
No.
Yeah.
I remember, you know, making
a couple of bucks like out of college and like no one told me about taxes.
No one told me about investing and this and that.
So I was like, I made a hundred grand like when I was like 25 and then I was broke when I was the next month.
Damn, was that from fighting?
Yeah.
No, I was actually from poker.
Oh, wow.
You played poker?
I play poker.
I'm a big poker player.
Oh, shit.
You know, I was talking with Blake Wynn, you know, who's who connected us and got me on the shin.
Shout out to Blake Wynn, but I'm going to go play his celebrity poker tour.
But that's kind of how I met him.
It's like through poker.
And
I just love poker.
I'm super passionate about it.
I want to be the best poker player on the earth.
I always come to Vegas every summer and play the World Series at poker.
Oh, nice.
So that's a big thing for me.
What's the farthest you made it not?
I got to like the top 8% last year.
I think I got 700th place or 600.
Holy crap.
Out of 10,000, that's good.
It was like 20,000.
Damn.
Yeah.
So you're nice.
All right.
You know, I could play.
I wouldn't say I'm nice.
You know, if I'm making final tables, then I'm nice.
Yeah.
Cause that's a whole different sport than fighting.
It is.
So to be good at both is really impressive to me.
Yeah.
You know?
And that was always my dream.
I wanted to be like a simultaneous two-sport world champion.
So to be a poker champion and fighting champion at the same time, I think would be like, that would cement my legacy as like a great athlete.
So you're good at reading people then.
Good at reading people and putting pressure on people.
That's what I do in fights.
I put a lot of pressure on people.
So that's the same game plan I put on when I'm playing poker.
I'm putting a lot of pressure.
I'm applying the chips and using the math percentages against them.
And I'm also fearless.
Just like I get in the cage, I'm fearless.
You know, I take a lot of risks with my health every time I step in the cage, but it's the same thing when I'm playing poker.
I'm not afraid to make the big three-barrel bluff damn and you know the percentages too i know the percentages i you know i know i know the players the you know all the pros now i know everybody so i studied the game and i see how all the pros are playing these days and you know i'm the new kid on the block man everything everybody thinks i'm stupid they're like oh he's a fighter he gets punched in the head no way he's an intellect and can think you know deeply through these uh poker equations but no i'm proving them all on do you use the gto stuff too nah i just i'm more a field player i know they have like the solvers all that stuff but i'm not big into that because when you're under pressure and it's in that moment like that's when it's most important when when it's you know when the bright lights are on
i feel like the solvers take away from the fun of the game they do you know what i mean yeah they're just robots like there's no more emotion there's no more reading people because you know what they're gonna do yeah
so i like the old school poker personally yeah you play i don't but i've had on negranu on the show i've had on all the top poker guys okay yeah those guys are people don't know how hard it is to do what they do and make a living off of it.
For sure.
Like, they don't get the respect they deserve.
They don't.
Yeah.
The emotional strength that those guys have, the ups and downs, the swings, the heartbreakers that they have to deal with.
I mean, you could be the best poker player.
And like Negranu knows time and time again, he's probably put it in 80, 90% favorite to win, but then you lose.
So it's like, how do you like internally like deal with that?
Yeah.
What?
I was 90%.
How the fuck did I?
I'm supposed to win nine out of 10 times.
How was it that one time that I lost?
For real.
What's the most you've lost in poker?
Man, a lot.
I don't know if I should talk about it on you.
Yeah, it's that bad.
Yeah.
Holy crap.
Yeah, it's a lot.
A couple hundred.
Jeez.
At least you've made some.
Yeah, at least I've made some.
You know, I've won some tournaments, you know, here and there.
I've done pretty well in cash games here and there.
But the big thing is that the big cash games that I learned.
uh at aria about two years ago when i lost the most money is that everybody it's collusion everybody's teeing up together like
they knew i had a lot of money from fighting and like fighting in title fights So they all brought me to this game and they were all taking 50% from each other.
And then they were all just playing against me.
Wow.
Yeah.
So I came in, you know, with big money, you know, six figures plus.
Every time I'd sit down and these guys were literally just playing against me.
And the only reason I figured it out because I had lost like a ton of money.
And I went home that night.
And the next day I came back and I just wanted to play and get back my money so bad.
And like one of the players came outside before I was going to go in.
He was like my fan.
He was like, oh, Cole, I'm such a big fan.
When are you going to fight again?
I'm like, hey, you know, I'm going to fight again soon.
But the fight I want is tonight.
I want to fight in this poker.
I want to get my money back.
Yeah.
So he's, I'm like, how's the game going?
He's like, oh, it's going great because, you know, the owner of the game's staking me.
He's taking 50% of my action.
So I'm like,
oh, shit.
I didn't tell him in that moment, but I'm like, I leave and I'm like, I put it all together.
I'm like, if he's taking 50% of this kid, who he's not even friends with, all the other guys he's closer with, I know he's taking 50% of him.
That's collusion.
That's cheating.
So like in the poker world, there's a lot of collusion and a lot of scandals.
So it's like, I don't trust playing high-stakes poker cash games anymore.
I'll only play big tournaments now.
Like I went to the Bahamas, played a 25K tournament for the WSOP because I know the tournaments are legit.
You can't, you can't mark the cards.
You can't share 50% of the action and straight up.
So I'll only play tournaments from here on out because damn, that's messed up.
Did you call them out?
I didn't call them out because I was like, I didn't want to make a big deal out of it.
And, you know, I just didn't know who was going to believe me.
I'm like, it's just my word against their words.
Yeah.
I told a lot of different people like in the poker community.
I was like, don't trust trust this guy's game.
Like this guy is clearly playing with his friends.
They're sharing 50% of the action.
That's clear collusion.
That's cheating.
So you want to play against these guys?
Good luck.
You'll never win long term.
It's literally impossible.
So I'm glad to find out.
It could have cost me millions.
I look wild.
Yeah.
I heard Vegas has some of the toughest competition in the casinos.
It does.
Yeah.
A lot of these players, they move out here with the dream of being a professional poker player.
So their dream is to make it in these casinos.
And, you know, the toughest players in the world are playing here.
Yeah.
I hear some horror stories with these home games, man.
Like the dealer's in on it or like marked cards.
Marking cards.
Yeah, it's not worth the risk.
They got glasses.
Really?
Yeah, they could have glasses like that.
You don't even know.
They're literally, they have like a thing on there that shows like what card is what no way.
Yeah.
Why?
Yeah.
And they're like, they're prescription glasses, the clear see-through.
You can't even tell.
And they have this little thing that just sees like the markings on a card.
Like each card is marked with like a illuminated type thing.
Holy.
And no one else can see it unless you have these glasses on.
Dude, that's what I would never guess that.
That's wild.
It took so long for people to figure it out.
And then eventually one guy was just like, what the fuck?
How am I losing bad beat after basket?
Like kings to aces, like over and over.
How is that possible?
Yeah, because over time, you know, something's up, right?
Yeah.
You start seeing, you know, a repetition of hands where you're losing coolers, you know, aces to kings or straight to a flush.
And it's just like, that's not statistically possible.
Like, poker is like, it's hard to make a pair in poker sometimes.
So how, how is he just always beating me by one hand?
He always has the nuts and I always have the second nuts.
How is that possible?
Yeah.
Who do you think the goat with poker is?
I think the goat of poker is...
I think, honestly, Fedor Holes.
He's a favorite player.
That's a rare answer.
Yeah.
Man, you got him over Ivy?
I got him over Ivy because he's had a lot of scandals.
He got kicked out of the ARIA.
He used to have that room at the ARIA.
Yeah.
That was for Baccarat, though, right?
Was it Baccarat or Blackjack, I think?
Oh,
one of those.
Yeah, one of those.
Yeah.
But I don't know.
That always puts a a stain on it, you know, when you, when you're cheating against a casino.
Yeah.
Well, I know you have a reputation for calling out cheaters.
Yeah, I don't like cheaters.
You know, I fought a lot of cheaters and, you know, in the UFC from Cameron Usman, who's obviously on steroids.
You look at him, he looks like a lab project.
This guy looks like a bodybuilder.
Yeah.
You know, I had to fight that guy twice for in title fights.
So I know he cheated me out of many titles.
Yeah, from your perspective, as someone that's all natural and you know you're better than them if they're all natural and then you lose to them, it must be super frustrating, right?
Yeah, it's super frustrating because i've never cut corners i've always done things the hard way you know and and the right way you know i didn't cut quarters and do stairways to get an advantage you know i just trusted i believed in god and i had faith in my work ethic and you know i let that be the determiner but yeah to get cheated out of you know titles titles and millions of dollars is like such a hard thing to have to swallow yeah yeah because that's legacy too it's not just money it's like being the champ yeah like that goes down in history goes down in history people still you know talk shit about me online oh you got you got your face broke oh you got beat up you got this and that which i've never been beat up or knocked out but it's just funny to hear them say that but yeah i can't rewrite that history now now that's forever which is crazy if you're going up against guys on steroids and you've never been knocked out well done dude i'm real super thankful man freaking they got an iron chin and i don't think there's a man alive that can take my take my soul yeah that's impressive i can't believe that stuff's still going on i thought they cracked down on it yeah i mean they do they got their drug testing companies, but these companies can't detect some of the steroids that these guys are coming out with.
These new, you know, these new, uh,
yeah, these new steroids that these doctors are coming up with.
And these doctors are getting so smart these days.
They have such advanced technology that they're able to mask it.
You know, you can do these steroids and they can mask it.
And no matter if they do blood or urine, they're able to mask it and get away from
doing that.
That's scary.
I wonder what percentage of people are on it, then it's got to be
fighting.
Well, probably everything, but yeah, i would say in all of it like 80 85 holy
yeah that high i really believe that high dude that's crazy yeah it's just there's so much money up for grabs these guys they know what they're doing like they're they're willing to risk their life and their and their future and their longevity of their health just for short-term gain and to get famous and to make all this money so
Yeah, because that's going to take years off their health, right?
Yeah.
In the long run.
See, I'll like the pro the pro wrestlers.
Like, I'm big into the WWE and shout out to WWE.
But a lot of those from the old old days, you know, they all ended up having like enlarge hearts and heart attacks.
Like 10 or 20 of them, like Eddie Guerrero and Chris Benoit and
all these guys.
I've seen that, yeah.
And a lot of the bodybuilders can't even walk these days.
No.
Yeah, you look at Ronnie Coleman.
Yeah, he's super sad.
Dude, it's so sad to see.
You know, he can't even walk around.
He has to have a stroller everywhere he goes.
Yeah.
I guess to get to the top, people are willing to really, you know, sacrifice their longevity.
It's just crazy to me.
I don't want that.
Yeah.
Cause this is just a phase of your life.
You'll fight for 20, 30 years, but you're going to get into bigger things out for this.
Yeah.
It's just one chapter of your life, you know, fighting, fighting, bodybuilding, whatever sports, like one little chapter.
Yeah.
And then you go into the next chapter, whether it's, you know, coaching or giving back or being a world big podcaster like yourself.
you know there's always life after sports and competition yeah you're gonna start a pod um i don't know if i had the right team you know if i had people around like you did like maybe i would but i don't know i think i'm too late in the game i think the game's kind of oversaturated you have legends in the game like yourself you know so i i don't want to compete with you you you've been doing a lot of applause yeah there's a lot of shows if you do start it you need a unique angle unique angle you know okay you need a unique show yeah but i think people will listen to you i know you're doing youtube stuff right yeah i just got into youtube building my youtube channel and i'm big into the streaming world now with twitch and
and uh yeah just trying to open up all the different social uh media avenues that can help me in my financial security.
I love them, Matt.
Dude, it's been awesome.
Anything else you want to close off with or promote?
Just, you know, the biggest thing is just my charity, April 2nd.
I'm very passionate about that.
You know, it's all about the military, first responders and giving back to those guys.
And so, yeah, we're having our tournament.
If anybody wants to come out April 2nd to Hollywood, Florida at the Hard Rock Hotel and Casino, we'd love to have you.
And 100% of the proceeds are going back to our military and our veterans.
And just really appreciate you having me on the show today, Sean Kelly.
And shout out to Blake Wynn.
Thanks for introducing us and keeping us and bringing me on here.
And I look forward to watching some more podcasts to you in the future.
And thank you for everything you're doing among the podcast base and the free speech.
Absolutist.
Thanks, man.
It means a lot.
We'll link your charity stuff below and your socials.
Thanks for coming on.
Thanks, man.
Check them out, guys.
See you next time.