X Monetization Secrets: How I Earned $20K in One Month | Tiffany Fong DSH #1193

The rumors like uh got more deep that like I'm married to like someone in China and I frequent China and like

like I'm a prostitute for like Chinese businessmen.

I was like homie, I've literally never even been to China.

You were a sugar baby.

I know, right?

But um uh what was I gonna say?

Yeah, I've never been to China.

I don't speak the language.

Don't speak Chinese or Korean.

I'm both from Chinese and Korean.

All right, Tiffany is back.

It's been a while since you've been on and you've been up to a lot, right?

Not really.

I feel like I'm not doing anything.

Well, crypto's back.

I think when you came on last time, we were in a bear market.

Oh, yeah.

Two years ago.

Shout out to Trump, I guess, for that.

Trump, for sure.

Yeah.

Bitcoin hit an all-time high recently.

Bitcoin's back above 100K, I think.

I hope.

It keeps teetering, but yeah.

Yeah, I think it'll hit.

I mean, who knows?

But some people are saying 250.

I feel like people I know that are super bullish are like, it'll hit a million.

I feel like I'm not as bullish as those people, but I hope it just, I just want the number to go up.

Yeah.

I'm not going to pretend to be into the tech.

Is that your biggest position, Bitcoin?

Yes.

Yes.

Mine is Ethereum, unfortunately.

I did buy a lot of ETH and I regret it because I feel like it's just not fucking moving.

It's been so staggering compared to Solana.

I know.

I made the wrong bet.

Sam Bickman Fried made the right bet.

His Solana bag, I think that was one of their largest holdings.

Sam Bakeman Fried was wrong about a lot of things, but he was not wrong about Solana.

Yeah, it's back up to in the billions, right?

I know.

Did he sell any?

Well, the bankruptcy estate sold, like after FTX went bankrupt, the bankruptcy estate sold within the months after the bankruptcy.

If they'd held on, I mean, every FTX creditor would have been far and above, like, paid out.

Wow.

That's how I feel with Celsius, too.

You know, because they gave distributions at the bottom.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Exactly.

So if they held, we would have got everything back.

This is true.

This is true.

So not.

So they just get to keep all that?

I mean, no, they sold the crypto like at like low prices.

Oh.

Brutal.

Yeah.

Brutal.

Yeah.

Cause they sold when Ethereum was what, like 2,000?

I think so.

Maybe even under that.

I don't even remember.

So half of what it used to be.

Brutal, even though it hasn't even gone that much up since then.

I know.

It keeps playing us.

It gets to like 3, 4K and then it goes back down.

I know.

You get in the Trump coin?

No.

I feel like, okay, wait, when I saw everyone freaking out and saying that, you know, they were up so much, I think I bought literally like $15.

I'm not really a big meme coin person, as you can see.

$15 is literally nothing.

I think I made like, I didn't even actually sell.

I think I saw it go up a little bit.

And then,

yeah, but I'm not a big meme coin fan.

You're not a fan of the meme coins?

I generally think they're like scammy.

It's sort of like, I don't know, we watched like the hawk to a chick

maybe accidentally like scam a bunch of people.

I feel like it's just not a good look.

And obviously, I mean, since I started my whole social media career covering crypto, I've had a lot of people ask me if I would start my own coin or help out with a coin or promote coins and have been offered a shit ton of money.

But I'm just like, I feel like that goes the route of it can easily get scammy.

And it's like a slippery slope.

So I just

stay away from meme coins mostly.

Yeah, I think a lot of celebrities, they don't even want to scam.

They just, they end up partnering with the wrong people and then it ends up being a scam right yes yes like that's not their intention from the start but i know that like some of these celebrities like you know even like hug to i don't want to like talk her i'm sure she's like a nice person or whatever but i know that a lot of people that i know like warned her like hey you shouldn't go down this route you shouldn't jake paul warned her oh did he he did he's actually pissed because he had a podcast deal with her i heard oh yeah what's happening with that she hasn't filmed since the incident she's been radio silent yeah she's must be dealing with legal stuff she's still asleep yeah she came back to like have one very clearly

lawyer written apology, but I feel like since I haven't heard it.

Were you on that X Spaces?

I was listening to it.

I was in Miami and I did listen to her be like, all right, y'all, going to bed.

I've seen some wild theories that that was AI.

That wasn't even her.

It did almost sound pre-recorded.

She barely said anything, but I don't know.

Yeah, who knows?

AI is getting really good these days.

Too good.

They can fake our voices.

This is true.

It's kind of scary.

Yeah, I'm sure there's fake profiles of you, actually.

Oh, there's a lot of fake profiles of me.

On X mainly, because that's your platform, right?

There's tons on X, x but there's tons on like so many different platforms i get people sending me fake tick tocks fake instagrams fake dating profile apps fake there was like a fake

profile of me on a hooker sugar daddy site i'm asking about that yeah yeah yeah

yes i saw that and it looked real um i don't know what app that was but i don't know what app it was but they're all like pictures from my instagram so okay people just be making fake profiles all over the place so who broke that story i don't know i think it was just some random twitter person that posted a screenshot I don't know who.

Okay.

But

since then, like a few people, well, I don't know, just for context, someone posted, someone made some like fake profile of me on like some Sugar Daddy site and then posted it.

And then since then, a lot of the people who posted it like have like apologized to me and been like, okay, I looked into it a little bit more.

And like, okay, I don't think it's real or whatever.

And they've since posted like long apology threads.

But it's like a couple months later.

So I'm just like, well, too, little too late.

But okay.

I mean, the average person on Twitter would have just seen that and probably believed it.

I know.

That's the thing.

It's, it's insane.

That's the one, i guess downside with x the information is so fast i know this is true and then people move on to the next story things just go viral i think later x started putting the little community notes on the post but it's like after it's already gone viral for a little bit it's just like well damage done but yeah because you're not getting the update on that community note yeah exactly exactly so you still crushing it on x you were getting some big payouts right i was i mean my biggest payouts were during the election season i feel like everything went viral during the election season if you posted anything that was just like fucking like shitting on kamala that was very viral

um Yeah.

I mean, my, my payouts, it's, it's still like my main income source.

Okay.

But obviously they're not as good as when it was the election season, but they're still good.

Yeah.

20K a month, I saw, right?

That was my biggest payout.

That's people were infuriated.

It's funny.

I feel like I've said so many controversial things throughout my like little ex-career.

I've

even when I, when I openly began to vocally support Trump, I was like, oh, I'm going to get so many haters from this.

I feel like I've never gotten more hate doing anything.

than post how much money I'd made on X.

Like I've never seen so many angry people.

Well, Well, I think people are pissed because they're making like 50 bucks.

I know.

Yeah.

But that's the thing.

I feel like the reason that I started like focusing on Xmore was because I saw other people posting their payouts and I saw people were able to make like, I don't know, 10K, 11K, whatever.

And I was like, oh, that's sick.

Like, I should start posting on Xmore.

For me, it was like inspirational to see people posting, but for other people, they just get really infuriated.

Like, how dare she make more than what I'm making on.

For real.

That was the highest X payout I've ever seen, 20K one, actually.

Yeah.

And I'm not sure.

Maybe that like seeing all the vitriol about that around that post makes me think that like maybe some people are making more, but they are smart enough not to fucking post it.

Because I had been posting my ex payouts just the whole journey.

Like I've posted some payouts where I made like 53 bucks and I was like, fuck yeah, I'm going to buy some hot dogs with this.

And I posted them consistently.

And then I only saw the vitriol when they started to become quite high.

Yeah.

But.

I mean, 20K is OF numbers.

Like you're putting.

That's true.

That's true.

I'm never starting an OnlyFans for anyone.

I'm sure you've been offered that.

That's one of my like.

biggest requests.

It's like when OF.

Yeah.

Never, never gonna happen.

Is there a dollar amount or just never?

No, never.

Really?

Same with the a meme coin.

You're firm on those.

Those are just things that I'm just like, I'm never fucking doing that shit.

So you got to line with your, your, like, your money line.

I think so.

Cause I feel like it's just like cheap cash grabs.

It's like, I don't know, for what?

Like,

I don't think it'll drastically impact my happiness and it will tarnish your reputation forever.

Yeah, because once you go down that route of launching a meme coin like Andrews Hate did, it's kind of like always going to be there.

You know, people are like, what happened to that coin?

Have you launched a meme coin?

I have not been offered.

Are you going to?

No.

That's good.

I'm similar to you.

Like

NFT was already already tough because I did launch one of those.

And yeah, after experiencing that, I would never launch a meme coin.

Why?

How'd it go?

It went well for a while, but then the NFT market tanked.

And then I was trying my best.

And then people get mad at you.

Ran through all the money.

Yeah.

Yeah, totally.

You know, we had like 10 people on payroll.

It was a full business.

And then once you're out of money, like, what else are you going to do?

Totally.

I mean, some people will make money, some people will lose money.

I'm just sort of like, I don't want to be responsible for anyone who loses money in anything that I do.

So I'm just like, yeah.

And I invested in a ton of NFTs and I lost on all of them, I think, to be honest.

How much did you lose?

Probably at least 50K because I had a mutant ape.

I had some blue chip ones.

50K is not the worst, I've heard.

It's not the worst.

Yeah.

Some people lost way more.

I lost more money to Celsius.

I lost a lot on Celsius.

I've lost way more on meme coins, actually.

Oh, really?

Yeah.

Oh, God.

I made some on meme coins, but I stopped trading them like two years ago.

I feel like it's just impossible.

It's kind of like mentally draining, too.

Oh, yeah.

I feel like it's, it gives you so much anxiety to be constantly watching the chart.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Stay away.

Do you have plans on branching out of crypto space or is that kind of going to be your bread and butter?

You think?

I honestly barely even consider myself in crypto.

Like, I never really talked about meme coins or anything like that.

I was specifically covering like that little saga of collapses, like after Celsius collapsed and FTX collapsed or whatever.

So, mostly, I don't even think I was like covering crypto in a super positive light.

Not really, yeah, I wasn't really boosting.

I was just sort of like, yo, let's follow these like massive collapses and people losing their money.

And

because I had lost money for anyone who is unaware, I lost a lot of money to one of those companies, Celsius.

So, yeah, I don't even consider myself like a native crypto person i don't plan to like talk about meme coins or anything like that unless maybe there's like some massive scam that like i have some personal tie to um

yeah and i feel like those stories i was interested in interested in because i had personally lost money that makes sense other crypto stories i'm just sort of like eh i don't feel super interested well i don't think there's been big ones like the spf one yeah exactly

that was huge i know that was huge i don't know if anything will be that big again we'll see although i guess with this cycle we might see some some more scammers.

I don't know.

Probably.

But that era was nuts because you had the Luna collapse and then Celsius and then FTX was like the last one to fall, right?

Yes.

So it was just crazy times.

What happened to the Celsius founder?

Did he get locked up?

Oh, he pled guilty and I think his sentencing is sometime this year.

So I'll maybe I'll go to it.

Man, he was doing a little podcast tour promoting Celsius.

I know.

People were buying it.

I know.

He was all over there.

Yeah, he was, you got to admit, he was good at sales.

He's a dirty little bastard.

He is, but he's good at convincing people to invest.

Yeah.

And SBF SBF was too.

Yeah, I guess so.

I guess so.

Yeah, I don't know which was more convincing.

I personally hate the, I hate Alex Mashinsky more just because I lost money.

Yeah.

Do you still talk to SBF or no?

Oh,

we do email every once in a while.

He's in prison at MDC Brooklyn or jail.

It's technically supposed to be like a pre-trial like holding facility, detention center.

But yeah, his trial already happened and he's still there because he's working on an appeal and his lawyers are in New York.

So yeah, we have emailed.

There's like this prison email system called Corelinks and he added me to his little email list or whatever.

But we haven't spoken in a few months.

And I know that last time we spoke, Diddy had just moved in with him.

I saw that.

Yeah, Diddy's in the same unit as SBF.

That's so crazy.

They're basically, it's like, it's not like most people imagine jail or prison as like these cells with like funk beds.

But since Diddy and Sam are like very high profile, they're basically in this unit called Four North where it's just like an open floor

dormitory style living plan.

And they're sleeping in like these little beds laid out side by side.

So they do like interact.

It seems.

I mean, I tried to ask Sam about it, but I mean, Sam was basically just like, yeah, he's been very nice and kind so far.

I'd love to see that conversation.

I know, I know.

It's like a little reality show in there.

For real.

I believe, like another inmate that I'm friends with, I befriended a few inmates who had just come out of MDC Brooklyn that were in there with SBF.

One of them told me that Luigi Mangion is now in that unit.

No way.

So it's like a fucking star-studded little,

I know.

I'm going to interview one of them at some point soon or one of the people who got out of MDC to talk about it.

So that'd be a good one.

A Luigi interview would break the internet, I think.

Oh, that'd be sick.

If someone could get that somehow, can you visit them and like interview them or is that not allowed?

I want to try to visit Sam at some point, but he has to, he has to like get me approved or whatever.

There's like an approval system.

So you can't just like walk in and visit, but they have to like get you approved and stuff.

Yeah.

I've seen Patrick B.

David interview.

I forget who, but it was from prison.

Oh.

Oh, Sug Knight.

Oh.

And they had to do like 10-minute calls.

And like, oh, yeah.

They have limited calls.

They get like 300 minutes.

Yeah.

But in-person interview would be nuts if they let you film there.

Like, I don't think they will let you bring cameras in there.

Probably not.

Yeah.

It's a safety risk.

I know.

But

hopefully I can visit one day.

Yeah.

That Luigi story.

Did you cover that one too?

I've like tweeted about it.

I haven't like, you know, tried to reach out to him or anything like that.

I do think that like the mania and like obsession around him is odd.

I mean, I get it.

He is, he is good looking.

The females love the true crime stuff.

I get it.

He's good looking.

I'm not going to lie about that.

But I'm also just like, I don't know.

I feel weird idolizing some, like, a murderer of any kind.

I don't know where I stand on it ethically in terms of like the actual like healthcare CEO, United Healthcare CEO, but I'm just like, I just, I don't, I don't want to support murderers.

So I know women that fall asleep to true crime documentaries.

I've tried to do that.

It just gives me nightmares.

I don't know how people do that.

I know.

If I watch a horror movie before bed, I'm having a nightmare.

I've been free.

Yeah, I watched a horror movie like two weeks ago and I'm still like not able to sleep with the lights off i'm such a pussy i used to not sleep with the lights off growing up you know i'm doing that right now and i'm fucking 30.

scared of the dark i know i'm a pussy oh man god damn it you've been traveling a lot lately yeah i just went to sf uh how was that it was good i don't know where i don't know where i want to live like do you do not sf do you think i mean yeah i hate i i do like that the uh amount of intelligent people seems like there's a higher volume of them in sf versus

vegas but that's oh easily yeah if you compare it by intelligence, but just like the homelessness and the homelessness, the politics.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Super liberal.

I mean, you're conservative, right?

So I know.

I don't label myself conservative.

I definitely lean right and I did want Trump to win, but I still don't like call myself Republican or Democrat or anything.

I'm just sort of like, yeah, I wanted Trump to win.

There's a lot of people like that.

You know.

But I do think that like, I probably have a lot of haters in San Francisco, probably.

Probably.

Yeah.

I wonder if Asians are more Democratic or Republican, actually.

I don't know.

Probably.

You're Asian.

Yeah.

I feel like, but I grew up in Jersey, so I'm biased there was a lot of democrats there yeah my my parents are super conservative oh really yeah for asians actually have my my real dad is democrat but real dad wait a second we got my step my stepdad and my mom are super conservative but i'm like closest with them but uh yeah so i feel like i was raised somewhat conservatively okay where'd you grow up vegas oh okay born and raised here i gotta admit i'm not impressed with vegas locals usually i'm not either i think they're trash i see them on like reality shows and they don't portray intelligence to me i feel like nevada constantly ranks like 49th or 48th in terms of education in the United States.

So I feel like we're not the best educated.

And we also don't really have industries that bring really intelligent, ambitious people to come work here.

I feel like a lot of people are like, my dream is to be a bottle girl.

So yeah, that's not the, I mean, it's all relative, I guess, but yeah, that must be tough.

So you must have gone to private school then.

I did go to private school here.

I heard, what was it, Bishop Gorman?

Meadows.

I went to Meadows.

Oh, Meadows.

Bishop Gorman was like the cool, sporty private school.

For sports, right?

Yes.

So Meadows is like the nerdy academic one.

Got it.

Anyone end up being successful from your class?

I don't think so.

And our class was super small.

I think there were like 50 people in a grade.

Damn.

So

it was such a bubble.

It was very.

Yeah.

I got my 10-year reunion this year.

I'm curious to see where people are at.

You grew up in Jersey.

Jersey.

But public school.

Oh, how?

Good and bad.

You turned out well.

You turned out successful.

Yeah, but not because of public school.

You know, like, would you send your kids to public or private school?

If I had to pick between those two, private, but I would ultimately want homeschool, probably.

Really?

Yeah.

I mean, yeah, I feel like there's a lot of like weird liberal bullshit being taught at the, at public schools.

Yeah.

How was private school?

Were they teaching some weird stuff there or no?

Not particularly.

I thought the education was good, but I also think that like a lot of students did not get socialized well.

And I feel like I even have like a lot of social anxiety meeting new people because it was like a K through 12 where you're growing up with the same group of like 50 people and not constantly like having to introduce yourself or like remake yourself or anything.

So

I don't know if I would send my kids to private school because I want them to be socialized normally.

Interesting.

Yeah.

Wow.

So you'd go to the public route.

I have noticed that with Asians, though, they're so wrapped up in like their books and stuff.

I don't actually know.

I mean, I've been torn and it probably depends on my partner.

I feel like I'm like, I'll be easily swayed by whoever I'm dating.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So you're submissive.

I guess so.

I mean, that's what traditional marriage used to be.

Now this whole movie.

It's like an Asian thing.

Yeah.

Man.

Do you ever go to China?

I've never even been to China.

I am half Chinese, but I've never been to China.

You got to get out there.

Oh, even when there was like that prostitute rumor thing, they were like, the rumors like uh got more deep that like i'm married to like someone in china and i frequent china and like

like i'm a prostitute for like chinese business i was like you homie i've literally never even been to china you were a sugar baby i know right

but um uh what was i gonna say yeah i've never been to china don't speak the language don't speak chinese or korean i'm both i'm chinese and korean you're what white and half chinese half irish yeah it's chinese new year oh today yeah i didn't even know that that's how out of touch i am

shitty asian i know i didn't even like chinese food growing up really i don't love it either now i like it the chinatown in vegas i feel like is pretty good there's some like i like dumplings and but i'm like i don't know i never picked chinese as like my go-to going out food that's interesting yeah i i was kind of ashamed of being chinese growing up to be honest i think i was too I think i was like i felt out of place or like i didn't fully belong or fit in um growing up asian i was kind of embarrassed about it growing up yeah yeah i i think now i'm a little better with it but for sure like i would get bullied growing up did you yeah did you i did too i definitely got the whole like like the eyes planty eyes thing when we were younger the dog stuff and oh yeah dog qing chong of course yes yes yeah they all use the same stuff they do and they used to get to me but now it's like think of something better yeah i still get it on twitter i mean people are still just like go back to china go eat dog or whatever it's just like be a little more crazy go back to your h-1b visa

that's so good so you're your one of your parents was from china though uh My dad was actually born here.

He's Chinese, but he was born here.

I've gotten a lot of people who, when I did openly support Trump, a lot of people were like, you're going to get deported.

I'm like,

but no, I was born here.

And I'm legal.

My parents are legal.

Yeah, I was scared to support Trump in like 16 for sure.

20, I was pretty scared.

Did you support him this section?

Yeah.

This election, I wasn't that scared, to be honest.

I mean, I was like, all right, it might affect the podcast a little bit, the numbers and the sponsors, but.

Did it?

Yeah.

Yeah, probably.

Did people pull out?

Yeah.

Guests have pulled out.

Sponsors have pulled out.

Because a lot of the sponsors in the podcast space are not conservative.

Oh, yeah.

I guess a lot of people are very liberal.

A lot of people, like, especially in California.

Yeah, especially the brands out of Cali and SF, which a lot of them sponsor podcasts.

Damn.

So that sucks.

It's part of the game.

I mean, you know, but I have on both sides on the show, too.

Oh, like, yeah.

I think, no, I have most of my in-real-life friends are very liberal.

I mean, I went to USC.

I went to college in LA.

So, like, most of my real friends

are super liberal.

Damn.

Hopefully they're all right with the fires going on.

I know.

That shit's crazy.

I'm actually going to LA tonight.

Oh, oh really i'm going this weekend oh yeah what are you going for uh podcasts oh yeah hopefully the air quality is better by now i know it's brutal dude those fires i don't like to get too conspiratorial but i'm sure you saw what was going on on twitter well i saw like arsonists and stuff like that i saw even andrew huberman caught a video of like some some men lighting fires around that so i'm like it seems like some of them if not all of them were kind of like yeah started by arsonists

super nuts to see what it turned into too i know millions of people lost their home i know it's really it's really sad i i don't even really understand like where are those where are those people living now?

They're out of the country.

Oh my God.

It's so sad.

Oh, the people living.

No, I heard the arsonists fled the country.

Oh,

where are they?

Yeah, the people living are screwed because all the hotels are booked.

I know.

Airbnbs.

Fuck.

And a lot of them didn't have insurance.

That's, oh, my God.

That's so tragic.

Yeah.

And most people put their whole net worth in their real estate.

Totally.

Oh, my God.

There would be nothing more tragic than that.

Did you get in the Vegas real estate at a good time?

Honestly, my parents secured this health care when I was younger.

So I don't even know what year they purchased it.

Damn.

You're up hello then.

We were all like living in this house for some period of time.

And then I took care of my grandma in it for a while.

And then she got too ill and like moved to a nursing home.

So it was like, they let me.

Yeah, that's the Asian thing, living with your grandma.

Yeah, they love that.

With your grandma?

No, my mom's mom was in China.

Oh, well.

She stayed there.

I don't think she liked America, to be honest.

Really?

No.

Why?

I don't know.

People in China just...

I don't know.

I don't want to journalize too much.

I feel like they like it there.

Yeah, I wouldn't know.

Haven't even been.

But I mean, my, my grandma's in like a nursing home now and she like can't communicate with anyone.

She only speaks Korean.

Damn, that sucks.

It's really sad.

I try to visit her a lot.

Holy crap.

Nursing homes scare me.

I know.

I'm so afraid of getting old.

I don't want to go out that way.

I know, me neither.

I feel like that's like the worst way to go out.

We were trying to take care of her for a while, but it just like became like too, like, I don't know.

It's too much medically now.

So just.

It's super expensive, right?

It is expensive, yeah.

Yeah, nursing homes are like 10 grand a month.

I heard something.

Yeah, I don't know how much hers is.

My mom mostly pays for it, but it's pretty depressing.

God damn.

AB.

A.

B nominated you.

A.

B.

A.

B.

Antonio Brown did nominate me chink of the year, and I'm honored.

I will take that with pride.

That's like probably my greatest honor being chink of the year.

Did they announce the winners yet?

Yeah, he already went.

I won.

Oh, you won?

I won chink of the year.

Congrats.

I know.

I'm so proud.

I wonder who all, I can't think of any other Chinese people.

Who else was nominated?

It was Jackie Chan.

What?

The Chinese kid from Goonies.

Who else was it?

Goonies.

Yao Ming.

Yao Ming.

Uh-huh.

And I won.

Oh, wow.

Yeah.

I'm soaked.

What is it based off of?

Like, people vote?

I have no idea.

And he picks himself.

I think he just picked.

Yeah, that's A.B.'s a homie.

I like AB.

I saw Shane Gillis won and he had to give a speech.

Oh, yeah.

Oh, I didn't actually watch his speech.

How was it?

It was hilarious.

He was so happy he won.

I need to won.

He did it virtually.

Did you give a speech?

He did interview me.

I think I was just like, I'm honored.

It was like a one-minute speech.

Wow.

Did you get a trophy or anything?

He said he'd send me one, but he hasn't yet.

What the fuck, A.B.

Damn, come on, A.B.

I ran into him at MFest.

I haven't met him in person yet.

How is he?

He's got a crowd with him and he's high energy for sure.

He's probably just like he is on Twitter, to be honest, which I respect.

He's probably actually mentally ill, but that's totally fine with me.

It's the football, man.

Those

injuries.

What is it called?

CTE.

Yeah.

I saw him on PBD's podcast.

Oh.

And it got ugly.

Really?

Yeah.

I think he either walked off or got in a huge fight.

Oh, shit.

Yeah.

Well, don't get an argument with him.

Okay, that's scary.

Yeah.

I don't think I could argue with AB this.

You got any beefs or arguments you've been partaking in lately?

Not recently?

No, I don't think so.

Not like arguments.

Okay.

I don't think.

Because I'm sure people call you out.

People like argue.

People try to argue with me.

I've had people like when I'm like going to events, people have been like oh like this person said you have beef with them i'm like i don't even know who the that is so like i feel like people have beef with me and i'm sure a lot of people hate me but i'm just like i don't i don't know who the you are i don't give a yeah well they want to beef with you to to get more views that's true a lot of so a lot of people on twitter apparently have beef with me so sorry but it's probably the paychecks you posted this is true honestly i think that that's generally the main thing that people beef at or they're just like she doesn't deserve that her tweets are so stupid and i'm like yeah they are i mean the thread i saw it blew up it must have gotten millions of views and I read the comments they were all negative about you oh about like my payouts yeah yeah people are like she literally just posts like fucking memes and

I'm like yeah yeah how do how do they base the the payouts is it off views I think it's just engagement so honestly actually I think the more people that are mad at me it helps me oh wow yeah yeah because I always wonder because it's not you don't post videos right I sometimes occasionally I post a video but probably like once a month right but it's just text posts and you're you're making money off this yeah I just tweet like good morning my little uh

kimchi pancakes.

And people are like, your tweets are so fucking stupid.

You don't deserve this money.

And I'm like, well, you're so mad at it that you're commenting and it gives me money.

So continue.

If anyone hates me out there, just make sure you're subscribed to X Premium so that you have the blue check mark.

And that's how I get paid.

And you can leave as many angry comments as you'd like.

I love it.

Shout out.

I love that.

What's your Twitter?

Yeah, but I don't really post as much as I should because my content's video-based.

I'm not like a text guy, but I might have to adapt because the traffic on Twitter is insane.

I mean, how many views are you getting a month on average?

I actually never look at my analytics.

Oh, you don't?

I kind of look at mine.

Well, I have to for sponsors, but yeah, people ask me about analytics and all that stuff.

I'm like, I have literally no strategy.

I don't like plan any posts.

I'm not mentioning that.

I'd be curious to see yours.

If I had to guess, you're probably getting over 100 million views a month.

Probably.

Because some of your tweets get like five, 10 million.

Yeah.

Every once in a while, something random goes viral, but probably a lot.

Yeah.

And you don't care to monetize that to like get sponsors or start a podcast or something?

I'm open, but I wouldn't take any crypto sponsors.

But if it was like something that I like or use or whatever, I'm open to sponsorships.

You're against any crypto sponsor.

I don't know.

I mean, like, I don't know.

Maybe the furthest I'd go would be.

I don't, I have never worked for an exchange, worked with an exchange.

I'd say that I'm 100% against doing like meme coins or something like that.

But like, I don't know.

If it was something that I, maybe I would use, like, I obviously own crypto, so I'm not against the whole space.

But if it, if it seemed legitimate and not scammy, I'd be open, maybe.

I've seen Kraken sponsor a lot of podcasts lately gemini uh coinbase oh really yeah i think yeah i think an exchange like that i would do but yeah like you i wouldn't do anything past that yeah it's too risky i agree after what happened with ftx i know exactly and even that one was regulated right everyone thought ftx was like extra extremely like you know legitimate and i don't know i i if i

If I was offered FTX in the past and I hadn't seen all these collapses, like maybe I would have considered it.

But after the collapses, I'm just like, I can't do that.

I feel that.

What are your predictions for Caroline Ellison?

Oh, she already got zero.

Oh, wait, no, no, no.

She got.

Wait, Caroline.

Oh, Caroline got two years

in prison.

Nishad Singh and Gary Wong got zero prison time.

Which is nuts.

I know.

Because they were in on it, right?

I know.

But Caroline was like, I feel like she probably should have gotten more.

I think it's pretty wild that just for testifying, you can go from, I mean, Sam Bakeman-Fried got 25 years in prison.

You can go from that to two years.

It's pretty wild to me, just for like ratting on your, on a co-conspirator or the big fish in the in the system but um

like to me i feel like her sentence being cut like basically in half from sam's would kind of make sense but i'm like two years is pretty wild she must have given some insane information to get it down to two years i wonder what she gave up she was like a star witness um i went to i mean i went to every day of trial she like did like have some notes and uh some documents and stuff like that that she shared and obviously like yeah helped put sam behind bars but um i feel like she was nearly equally as culpable she was like the ceo of Alameda and Alameda is the company through which like all these crazy venture capital investments were made.

Yeah.

Do you remember any specific like documents or things she said at trial that were like the nail in the coffin for SBF?

There were a lot that were like sort of technical like spreadsheets and stuff like that.

So that wouldn't be super interesting to go into, I guess.

But

she did say that Sam thought there was like a,

was it 50% chance or apparently he thought there was a high likelihood that he would become president of the United States one day.

Wow.

He also said that if he were to take a coin flip, 50% chance the world ends, 50% chance the world ends up two times better, that he would take that coin flip.

What?

Like a 50% chance that literally the entire world.

That doesn't seem worth the odd.

I know.

I agree.

It'd have to be like 1%.

I agree.

But it shows his extreme risk tolerance.

Was that stuff true about him donating 50% of his money to charity?

He did donate a lot to charity, yes.

Wow.

And I do think he like actually sort of believed believed in it, but almost to an extent at which I feel like he was sort of like an ends justify the means person where he did, I think, actually want to donate to charity, but thought that like if his goal was to donate to charity, he could do pretty much anything on the way there to get to that goal.

Yeah.

Yeah, it's interesting because you knew him behind the scenes, so you knew the real him, right?

Was he similar to how he was portrayed in the media?

I mean, he was obviously vilified much more in the media, and he was obviously like in interpersonal like interactions with him was honestly like always very kind and like there was nothing he said to me that turned out to be a lie like he wow i think he was quite honest with me about everything and like was a generally like kind person i did consider him like an actual like friend even though he did commit massive scale financial

but um no like i actually considered sam a friend and i mean since then i've i've uh befriended a lot of criminals so i mean i i can see past it i guess you like them criminals huh i like a criminal what can i say yeah i i befriended like after after sbf went to mdc i befriended like an ex-blood gang member who just went out of jail with him his His name is G-Lock.

He's lovely.

Was he protecting him?

He probably paid for him.

He said that he was trying to watch out for Sam and make sure that no one extorted him and whatnot.

I'm sure that's the first thing he did when he got there.

You're like, yo, let me find the biggest guy and pay him to protect me because that's what I would do.

He didn't get paid by Sam, but I think everyone can just tell that Sam like kind of doesn't really belong.

I mean, just in that he's like this nerdy, awkward, autistic little like short.

little Jew.

And everyone else are like these hardened criminals that like, I don't know, have probably killed people or whatnot.

So I feel like there were a couple of people in prison that were like, we need to watch out for this little guy.

I can't believe you said they all are just sleeping in the open on mattresses.

I know.

I mean, that to me is wild for high-profile people like that because they're going to be targeted.

Yeah, that's true.

But since everyone's pretty high profile, I think there's not like a ton of violence in that unit, but there is like a little extortion and whatnot and threats.

And some people get sent into solitary confinement.

I wonder if Sam's in solitary right now.

No, I think he's in his normal unit.

He's in Four North.

Diddy's probably in solitary.

no they're still i think that currently they're in four north together but they've they i think they've both been in solitary for various periods or like i think initially when they're being moved into prison they go on suicide watch for like their initial period just to make sure they wow don't do it did you cover the diddy stuff i haven't fully but i'm considering it just because now it's sort of like intertwining with stories i've already covered now knowing that diddy is in there with spf i'm sort of like hmm it's kind of getting a little bit more into my territory so and they might drop the list right they might drop the f-scene list the diddy list that's gonna be a fun day when that comes out.

I'm excited for that.

They just dropped the what?

JFK list?

I don't know if it came out yet, but he signed it.

Yeah.

JFK, MLK,

and one more.

Yeah.

That's going to be huge.

Everyone wants the Diddy list.

Yeah.

I think the JFK one will be massive.

I'm excited.

Maybe, yeah, maybe I'll cover it.

Which conspiracy theory do you believe with the JFK stuff?

Because there's a few.

I honestly am not.

It was obviously far before I was born, so I'm not someone who's gotten like super deeply invested in it.

Do you believe in any?

There's the multiple shooters theory.

There's the CIA theory.

There's the mob theory.

Who knows?

I do think the multiple shooter one's pretty plausible.

I mean, that sounds like it could be.

I haven't really deeply looked into that.

Maybe I'll do that today because I need more hobbies.

Yeah.

Conspiracies are fun.

You just do this podcast all the time.

Like, what are your, what are your hobbies outside of this?

What do you do?

Basketball, Fortnite, chess, movies.

I collect Funko Pops.

I got a nasty Funko Pop collection.

Damn.

Yeah.

Do you know what those are?

Dude, SBF actually was into Funko Pops.

No.

Well, Sam, Sam sent me a bunch of documents prior to him going to jail.

And one of the documents was he sent me his entire Amazon purchase history.

Oh, he buys them off Amazon?

Yeah,

he bought one of Amazon.

That's a rookie move.

You don't, if you're a true Funko collector, you don't buy off.

Okay, so he's not a true Funko.

No, he's a noob, I would call him.

It was, which one was it?

Unless it was a super expensive one.

I think I, I think I posted it on a sub-stack, but I forget which Funko it was, but I remember seeing that on the list.

I was like, this is so fucking weird.

What's the weirdest thing you saw him buy?

That was weird.

It was honestly just fucking nerdy shit.

He bought a bunch of bean bags and like board games and like kitchen utensils.

Okay.

It wasn't super exciting.

Wow.

I'm big on board games too.

Are you?

Yeah.

You're such a nerd.

I know.

I go to this spot in Vegas.

It's all you can play board games for 10 bucks.

I need to try going to more shit in Vegas.

Yeah, Vegas has some cool spots.

Yeah.

I think of Vegas as like being really boring and I just like stay at home all day when I'm here.

But I know that it is boring if you don't know where to go.

You need to tell me some places to go.

I will.

I was bored for like two years in Vegas.

Yeah, I feel like I'm there right now.

Because if you're not in the party scene,

we're known for the strip parties and clubs.

I'm not a big clubber or anything like that.

So when I'm in Vegas, I literally just stay at home and go to the grocery store and then come home again.

Do you go to the Summerlins Farmers Market?

No.

Go there.

Is it good?

Oh my God.

Yeah.

Ooh.

Try the Dubai chocolate there.

Oh, okay.

So good.

Yeah.

Are you big in nature?

I like nature, but I don't love like the desert landscape.

Like I prefer, like if I'm in somewhere green, then I'll go out and I agree.

I like green nature more.

The desert nature doesn't hit the same.

Yeah, I don't like it that much.

Yeah.

I'm just more like I get to the top of the mountain.

I'm like, cool, like more rocks.

I don't know.

Facts.

Well, Tiffany, it's been fun.

Where can people?

Yeah, good to catch up.

Where can people catch up with you?

Oh, you can all leave like angry comments on my Twitter at Tiffany Fogg with one underscore.

I'm on YouTube at just Tiffany Fong.

I'm on Instagram at Tiffany Fong.

I don't know.

You can Google me and I'm sure.

Oh, don't Google me.

There's probably weird shit about me online.

Yeah, there is.

I already did that.

But yeah, we'll link everything else below.

Thanks for coming on again.

See you guys.