Secrets of Longevity: Heal Your Body Naturally | Greg Eckel DSH #1145

I feel like the biggest barrier to mass adoption is the insurance industry.

It doesn't cover a lot of this stuff.

I hear that every day.

To get the best healthcare on the planet, you have to utilize all of the medicines.

When given that option of I want to get well versus I just want my disease to be managed and be sick, they're going to choose I want to be well.

Now, unfortunately, the insurance component doesn't cover that.

All right, guys, Dr.

Greg Eccle here today.

Excited to talk brain health with you.

Thanks for coming on, man.

Thank you.

How's your trip in Vegas been?

It has been a whirlwind.

Yes.

We had a good conference last night.

This, yeah, the Biohack Yourself documentary is launching and

it was a to-do.

Yeah, I can't wait to see it.

There's a lot of the top worlds experts in that documentary.

I've never seen something like that.

It is.

They have, the Lollies have collected such a great assortment.

And I love their discernment of picking who was actually in the film.

Yeah, what was their process for that?

You know, I think they were, it was word of mouth and, you know, connecting with the connectors, and it spread like wildfire.

That's cool.

What's been new in the brain development world?

What's been new?

Well, we are we're getting ready to publish on Parkinson's reversal,

which when you say that in conventional land, they look at you like you're crazy.

If you say that on certain platforms, they delete the video.

They do not allow that message to come out.

Yeah, that's that's a shame, though, right?

It is.

And that's a component.

I really thank you for having me on to help share that with people.

You know, you get these diagnoses with neurodegeneration, Parkinson's, Alzheimer's, dementia.

There's not a lot of hope for the patient nor the family.

In fact, there's a lot of fear around it.

And we

were making a difference.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I remember growing up as a kid and hearing Alzheimer's and Parkinson's is irreversible, right?

Yeah.

And you should not question that.

So times are changing.

Times are changing.

We're living at an amazing time in history where we're right before this hockey stick goes up.

That, you know, the first tenant of longevity is don't die.

And so in this next 10 years, you know, there is going to be such innovation and change coming to us

that it's just a great time to be alive.

Yeah.

Were your studies on this done on any humans?

Because I know you start with rats usually, right?

Yeah, no, I, you know, this one, I'm a clinician's clinician, Sean.

I've been in practice 25 years as a naturopathic provider and Chinese medicine practitioner.

And currently coming at you from Park City, Utah at the Energy for Life Centers.

We have people, these folks with this diagnosis do not have time to wait.

The innovation,

we're in a weird kind of transition time in research, I think.

You know, the old institutions of the one element, one change, and then measure, it is so laborious and it's slow.

And with the addition of AI and these platforms, we're able to, I'm hoping to expedite the change.

So I actually have

real people.

We are working.

You know, one, it's got to be the first tenant of medicine is do no harm.

So it's got to be safe.

There's got to be research on the therapies.

And then I'm collating them in the right order and stacking them.

And I created the ECL protocol for brain regeneration.

Nice.

What does that look like?

What's the timetable?

So we use Energy for Life centers is a bioenergetic center.

So we're using all of the realms.

We're using the frequencies.

We're using your biofield.

We're using your biochemistry.

So we do a lot of the methodology is detect, correct, and thrive.

And it doesn't just have to be for pathologies, although we are showing neuroregeneration.

We're showing people getting their brains back.

I have DAT scans, which is a radioactive dye that measures into the substantionigra, which is the portion for Parkinson's.

consistent with Parkinson's after

our ECHOL protocol,

substantial nigra are consistent with the person's age.

They're off all their drugs and have no signs of the disease.

Wow, that's crazy.

It is.

It is.

It's very humbling.

You know, people are traveling in from around the globe for this program and we're utilizing sound.

We do sound bowls, put people into a heart rate.

variability and heart coherence.

It's a deep state of relaxation as the body can heal from that state.

So many people are running around in their limbics.

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Systems in fear or fight, flight, or freeze their sympathetic nervous system.

You can't heal there.

You can't access your greatness.

You can't access your frontal lobe and envision a totally healed, totally whole self in the future.

So we start there.

We start with limiting beliefs.

We start, you know, this is a dangerous neighborhood to go into by yourself, right?

So we start there.

You know, what those thoughts are is your cells are listening to every thought you have.

So hopefully

it's loving kindness, it's peace, it's healing.

But most of the time, we know from adverse

childhood experiences, the ACE scores, you know, no one gets out of here alive, Sean.

It's a whole component of trauma.

We have trauma, whether it be big T, little T, that is an underlying process for neurodegeneration.

So we've got to address that.

Then we bring people from the sound bowl room into the procedure room where we're running frequencies like SkiNAR technology.

We use a device called the My Health device.

We're playing the bowls.

We say intentions into a laser activated and guided stem cell procedure.

Wow.

We do an intranasal procedure and a systemic procedure.

Intranasal.

So you're shooting something off the nose?

We do.

Yes.

We use a flexible catheter, no needles involved, but it's a great route of administering the cells to get them into the brain.

Also, the innate intelligence, that's really what I say I do all day.

I do a lot of nothing all day.

It's really the innate intelligence and the information coming in.

So we're supercharging the body to help it heal itself.

Wow.

Damn, you're doing a lot there.

There's a lot.

That's fascinating.

So it's not just one thing.

It's like a series of things.

No, it's a, it's a, that's what I was saying.

And that, you know, the old style of research, it's one item.

And, you know, when you're talking about regenerating the brain and central nervous system, you're needing some momentum, right?

You have this 800-pound gorilla called disease process, and you've got to get the teeter-totter moving.

So you lay everything on the other side.

Yeah, that's incredible.

These sound bowls, I'm fascinated by.

It was a full moon yesterday.

Yes.

And I've been looking into sound bowl healing.

Oh, excellent.

Because the full moon amplifies it, right?

Yes.

Yeah.

Well, you know, you look, there's so many things there, especially with frequencies.

And I was checking out, you know, the other guests that you've had on the show, and you definitely have delved into these topics.

And we're bringing that into the procedure room, into clinical encounters, and into discussion.

You know, we all walk around with these supercomputers in our pockets and it's like, well, how does the information get there?

It's traveling in frequency that we can't see.

Well, these things are the magnificent supercomputers.

I mean, these are the original quantum computers, our bodies.

So it's, you know, clearing the obstacles to cure, getting the energy running.

And then you put the bowls in there.

Well, one, it's crystal.

crystalline sound and then there's a note which has another frequency and then there's usually a you know precious metal or stone in there that also has its own healing qualities wow that sound you know i was doing research this last year i i spoke at the ammg the age management medicine group and they almost didn't let me talk and this is a uh you know an alternative group or a more of an integrative medicine group more open to it but it was all on the future of medicine is frequency sound and light wow and you look at our mitochondria in the cell.

They are receptors.

We knew they were receptors for light, but they are also sound receptors.

Really?

So

that vibration, that frequency comes through, hits resistance in our tissue and starts vibrating every cell.

Now, I learned about this early on in my career.

Fabian Mamon is an acupuncturist.

And

he was also, he was a past symphony member.

And he was playing, he built beds in the key of C, the key of A, and he would show in the research that certain notes, pure notes, would have our cells, normal cells flourish and shatter cancer cells.

And so just taking that, that was like 20 years ago.

So bringing that full circle to today, we're really

bathing the body.

You know, a lot of people, have you ever had a sound battle?

I haven't.

I want to try it.

Well, next time you're in Park City, you'll have to come in because we have one of the world's largest collections of crystal tone bowls.

Oh, yeah.

We have gongs, rattles, etc.

We host them for the community up there.

That's incredible.

I can't wait.

Yeah, I usually don't fit in a bathtub.

Too tall.

Yes.

I was doing some devices at the beginning of the day.

You don't have to take your clothes off.

Oh, nice.

Yes.

Wow.

So you get in there fully clothed.

Yeah.

Well, it's a room.

We just do it in the room.

The sound, you're bathing in frequency.

Okay.

That's the whole concept.

My friend in Vegas goes to these oxygen baths.

Have you heard of these?

No, I have not.

Yeah, it's a tub of water, but they put like a bunch of oxygen in it.

Yes, yes.

Yeah, so that's interesting, the power of oxygen to heal the body, right?

Oh, yes.

And that is part of the Equal Protocol.

So we utilize, we have Nano-V technology.

It's a structured water that you inhale that shows it reconstitutes your...

proteins.

That's the basis of a lot of these neurodegenerative states are misfolded proteins.

And, you know, I think why there's been no major breakthroughs there in neuroregeneration.

No one's really talking about prionic activity.

You know, this, what is that?

I mean, you know, don't glaze over, folks listening and watching.

Back to ninth grade science class.

Proteins misfold due to traumas, environmental toxicity along these lines.

And this is like mad cow syndrome in people.

You know, we all, I think, have heard of mad cow syndrome.

So that's like Kritzville-Jacob

disease in humans.

It's Tau proteins in Lewy body dementia.

So all of the neurodegenerations have a misfolded protein associated with them.

Wow.

And you're able to unfold them?

Well, that's what we're looking to do.

Yeah.

So with the resolution and reversal of these conditions, that's what's happening.

Yeah.

How common is Parkinson's getting these days?

You know, it's 1% of the population in the United States,

and it's 2% in the state of Utah where I live.

So Utah has a higher percentage of people with Parkinson's and you know we don't know.

I think it's multi, there's multiple causes that we see.

It's not agreed upon where it's coming from.

I think it's coming

10 to 30 years prior.

It's coming from the gut.

It's coming up the vagus nerve.

90% of your vagus nerve is going, bringing information from your periphery to your brain so that you can stay in a homeodynamic state um so i you know it's like things that we're we're just not taught how to listen to our bodies right and so we ignore ignore ignore and so there's an accumulation of the innate intelligence just keeps saying give you symptom give you symptom give you symptom pay attention to me pay attention to me pay attention to me

And eventually it'll just keep turning that dial up until you really pay attention.

And then you have no other choice.

Yeah, 2% is pretty high.

And that's just diagnosed.

So it could be even higher.

Yep.

And I feel like, is that including Alzheimer's or are those?

That's just Parkinson's.

That's just Parkinson's.

Alzheimer's stats and dementia are, it's even worse.

You know, it's predicted by 2030, 50% of the population over 65 years old will have some mild cognitive impairment or dementia.

That's super high.

So clone.

50%.

Yeah.

That is concerning.

Yes.

And so, and the good news is there's a lot to do.

It's just you're not hearing it from, you know, on high.

It's not coming from top down.

And that's why we're out, you know, bringing this message to your listeners and viewers.

It's needed, yeah, because if you go the Western route, they're just going to give you a pill, right?

There's nothing for dementia or Alzheimer's.

You know, the medications that have been approved by the, I affectionately call them the FNDA.

only give you about a month or two and you can't come off of them.

They're very expensive and they really do nothing for quality of life.

Yeah, that's really concerning.

Most people can't even afford it.

And the ones that can, it's not effective.

It doesn't really do, it doesn't do anything.

They don't treat the root cause.

That's the problem.

That's right.

That's why I always gravitated towards Eastern.

Yes.

I know living in the U.S., it's like a hot take, but I like Eastern medicine.

Well, yeah, and naturopathic, you know, I'm here with that message as well.

We've been around, you know, before 1930,

there was more naturopathic medicine in the United States.

You know, it's a very eclectic bunch of providers out of Germany, worldwide, more traditional medicines, and I'll call that traditional medicine of the herbal medicine, lifestyle, healing with hot and cold water, etc.

Oxygen therapies.

That was the other component of what we have in the Echo Protocol.

On you had mentioned this oxygen bath.

Well, we do hyperbaric oxygen as well.

Putting the body under pressure and then breathing 90 to 100% oxygen drives oxygen into the body.

It goes from high concentration to low concentration, and it helps the body heal.

We're charging the body battery.

Yeah.

I had a TBI.

I got a scan at Dr.

Amon.

Yes.

It went away after a year of oxygen chambers.

Excellent.

So, yeah, that's a great way.

And, you know, again,

it's the same methodology to heal the brain.

Oxygen being a big one.

I've been doing, you know, hyperbaric oxygen for 25 years at centers.

And it is, you know, we have one in our living room and we have three in our center.

The center is six minutes away.

And the kids say, you know, the center is just six minutes away.

It's like, yeah, but it's much easier when it's in your living room.

Facts.

I feel like the biggest barrier to mass adoption is the insurance industry.

It doesn't cover a lot of this stuff.

You know, I hear that every day.

And if we look at our car insurance, does that cover everything for our car?

No.

No, what do we have to?

We have to replace the oil.

We got to do the upkeep.

We got to change the tires.

We have to pay for the windshield.

You know, all of those things are on us.

And I think we've been sold the wrong bill of goods, right?

I think insurance is important.

If you need your life saved, do not come to my center.

If you have an acute crisis, an accident, you know, your bone is broken.

We need Western medicine.

There's a great, you know, my moniker is where East meets West naturally.

To get the best healthcare on the planet, you have to utilize all of the medicines.

And the insurance component, you know,

we're mandated to pay for it.

I think we should be able to choose what we get.

I got out of the insurance gig.

When I first started, I did 10 years of insurance billing.

Then I did a hybrid and I realized, you know what, there's this third party sitting in the room here telling me what I can tell you and

what I can recommend.

And I just, I kicked him out of the room.

I said, you know, this is it.

And what I found, most people,

when given that option of, I want to get well versus I just want my disease to be managed and be sick, they're going to choose, I want to be well.

Now, unfortunately, the insurance component doesn't cover that.

It doesn't pay for your well, they're not going to pay for your wellness.

They're not going to help you get better.

They don't want that.

They don't.

It's a very, I mean, look, they got a residual, like a monthly payment from everybody goes to the drug company, goes to the insurance company.

And there's nothing in there to say, let's get you better.

And I had this epiphany.

I was sitting in, I'm from Western Pennsylvania, Johnstown.

It's called Eat N Park, Eat N Apostrophe Park, Eaton Park.

And tons of food, all-you-can-eat buffet.

I'm sitting there with my kids, my aunt Joan,

and I'm looking around.

I'm like, wow.

Everyone is overweight in here and they're eating a lot.

And it wasn't, you know, it it wasn't organic.

It wasn't nutrient-dense food.

And I thought, you know, this is criminal.

We're treating people like products.

How much food can we shove down their gullets?

How many drugs can we sell them before they get to the grave?

That is not living.

That's not, I'm really excited for the change that's coming here.

It's very high promise.

I hope we can actually actualize it of like making America healthy again.

Like, it is so exciting.

This is the first time in my career where I actually felt like we have a voice on the national level to change the discussion rather than having big pharma own our airwaves, programming the mind from the, you know, the television, et cetera, where we can actually talk about the things that matter, like clean food, clean air, clean water.

Yep.

Yeah.

Shout out to RFK.

Yeah.

I like what you said about programming too, because

that's the daily thing that people are exposed to.

I mean, I think they should just outlaw direct to consumer advertisements.

We're the only country in New Zealand.

We're the only two countries that allow it.

It needs to stop.

I mean, like, look, they own the airwaves.

They

clearly censored over the last four years.

You know, so that needs to stop.

Yeah.

I like how he's questioning the vaccine stuff, too.

Yeah, you know, we just want research.

You know, like data, like that's the component.

Like, you really need to run the other way if you ever hear the science is settled because that's not the scientific process.

Science is a process.

You know, the biggest thing that I advocated for is curiosity.

Can we just know?

Like, what's wrong with that?

Can we run the studies?

Because

when you really push on it, they're not there.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Should at least be able to be questioned.

Yes.

Because I remember growing up, like, they pretty much forced us to get there.

No, the dogma.

I mean, you're not even allowed to question it.

And, you know, the component in 96 when Reagan made the Vaccine Safety Act where you could not sue a vaccine manufacturer.

Then you get Bill Gates saying this is the most lucrative business on the planet because there's no liability.

Well, if you have no liability, guess what happens?

Right?

You cheap out on everything.

Yes.

And there's no reason.

You know,

they're just banking on it.

And we're talking about the health of children, our kids, ourselves.

You know, we have in 2015, there was a flu vaccine shortage.

And I wrote an editorial for the Oregonian up in Portland, Oregon.

And it was, people were freaked out.

Like, I don't have a vaccine.

I was like, well, you actually have an immune system.

You have an innate intelligence.

Like you were given, we're perfectly whole here that you can actually manage that.

We've managed people through my centers, you know, HIV positive, no immune system, get pneumonia.

You're supposed to die from that.

We actually have survivors because there are different facets of your immune system that you can activate.

All of that knowledge isn't common, but that is the training that we've received.

And that's what we've put in.

Now, 25 years later, I feel like I'm just getting started in medicine, Sean.

Yeah, that's incredible.

Props to you for sticking with it for this long because back then you were probably made fun of and ridiculed way more.

I mean, do you see these lumps on my head?

25 years ago.

That's when I was born.

And that's crazy.

Now it's like more accepted, but even today, there's still some critics.

Oh my gosh, yeah.

And you know, look, we want research.

We use the evidence, right?

We're evidence-based.

I'm actually creating a database on the back end of the 25 years of clinical practice, and we're creating that as the safety zone.

Then we're going to duplicate it, put AI on it.

And I've got AI, I've got the APIs coming in from wearable devices.

So I wear the ultra-human ring, a continuous glucose monitor, your Apple Watch, all of that data, plus the labs.

And I've got clinicians then coming in on this platform so that we can actually get better, faster results.

Prompts my clinicians in the centers around, hey, have you considered this?

Have you considered that?

We've got the up-to-date research in there as well so that we get the best outcomes for our patients.

I love that.

I love how health companies are integrating with AI because I got a scan at Pernuvo the other month.

And a lot of these scans are kind of like subjective.

If you show it to 100 different doctors, they'll have different opinions.

But with Pernuvo, they have AI to review it.

Yes.

So there's no like emotions involved.

Right.

And it's coming because the patterning,

that can pick up so many patterns that our human mind can't bridge.

And it's way more sensitive.

So we're seeing that on all kinds of imaging.

I want to put it in in a functional integrative sense so that we can actually maybe find some new cures, a faster way of getting it done.

Yeah.

There haven't been any major cures recently, right?

No, no.

In fact, you're taught in medical school, you cannot say cure.

Oh, you can't.

You cannot.

You can't say it on certain platforms.

That's true.

It's true.

And, you know, I think that component and why

I say I do a lot of nothing.

It's the innate intelligence healing itself.

That is the truth.

You know, we should maximize all of the facets, whether, you know, the lifestyle stuff isn't sexy, but it is the stuff that moves the needle.

Right.

And then you can then put on the fancy bells and whistles, right?

Everybody wants to do the coolest flavor of the month.

Over 25 years, I've seen a lot of flavors of the month come and go.

And the things that stick and actually move the needle is really, it's the connection.

It's the heart-centeredness.

It's actually being seen, heard,

acknowledged, and then helped, right?

Supported.

It really, you know, I have a red pom-pom on my desk, Sean.

We see people from around the globe telemedicine-wise, and we'll, I'll actually cheer for them.

You know, I know it can be quite lonely with some of these diagnoses, and there's not a lot of support.

It's basically here, take your drugs, see you next year.

Right.

And that's what I've realized talking to people like you, Dave Asprey and all the top biohackers, the healing part comes from the body.

You just got to activate it, figure out how to do that.

That is it.

So remove the obstacle to cure.

So get to the root cause.

There's multiple roots in.

Why I wore a fractal shirt for you today

is it you go in on the level that resonates with the person you know there's not just one path to wellville it really is um what makes sense to you like and to give you a for instance you know i can treat your whole body on your ear it's auricular therapy there's a point that will treat everything on your body.

There's Korean hand acupuncture, same thing.

Japanese HARA

diagnosis on the abdomen.

So I could treat your whole body on your arm.

Really?

So So, all it's the macrocosm and the microcosm aspect, you know, and these are concepts that I know, like

Robert Grant came on here and was talking about that.

And it's not, these are ancient concepts that we're bringing into clinical therapy now.

So, it's, you know, the other component for the Energy for Life Centers is, we say, cutting-edge therapeutics through an ancient lens.

So, with the Chinese medicine background, what I love about it is there's no word for mind-body medicine.

It's all heart-centered.

And that heart is the portal.

That is the healing.

And it's, you know, how do we heal our heart?

How do we drop in, heal the mind, heal the body, drop into the heart space and create from there to have more love come through in this plane of existence?

That's what we all want.

We know it.

You know, it's like what our hearts know and desire.

That's where we're going.

Yeah.

And that's a big thing you work on, heart and brain coherence.

Yes.

Oh, yes.

Connecting the two together.

That's right.

Yeah.

With heart rate variability, a lot of these these wear do you wear any wearables no so i'm i'm weird with that stuff because of the emf like what's your opinion on that well you can turn it off right yeah you don't have to have the bluetooth on it's very low emitting um but you can turn the bluetooth off and then you know you get the data when you just put it on the charger so you can totally eliminate so maybe i should start then well it's up to you you know what gets measured gets changed uh it's interesting right you know we come out of the what gets quantified you know the quantified self um but I think it can really help move the needle, you know, in particular with sleep.

Sleep is such a

matter, you know, lack of sleep is now the new smoking.

I heard that.

Most people aren't smoking two packs of cigarettes a day anymore because the evidence is in that's guess what?

That's not so good for you.

Yeah.

Well, sleep, same thing.

And so, you know, if I've, it's a double-edged sword, though.

I don't want people outsourcing their agency or how they feel.

You know, I think that's a component.

So many of us are walking around in our gray matter of our brains and not in our bodies.

And it's really the embodiment of getting back in there, like this vessel, the preciousness of the body and our life.

You know, we take it for granted so much, but

knowing so much about how the body works, there's so much mystery about it as well.

Absolutely.

Speaking of smoking, you mentioned earlier, have you looked into nicotine at all?

That's a controversial one.

Well, nicotine in particular.

So the combustion of tobacco with the additives is really where the issue is.

And so we have nicotinic receptors in our body.

Well, isn't that interesting?

There's a plant, tobacco on the planet.

You know, so I'm definitely a naturopathed doc of utilizing plants in a sacred fashion.

We have nicotinic, it can improve your cognition.

It's a newotropic, focus, et cetera.

Now, it can also be addictive.

So there is that aspect in our dopamine nation you know where there's so much engineering on uh

creating addiction or keeping your eyeballs on a platform etc um so the nicotine actually it can be great for focus uh

I went on a meditation retreat in Costa Rica where I would do a spray of nicotine before sitting and chanting.

And it was really, it was a really nice enhancement.

Yeah.

Actually, when Dave Asprey came on the other day, he gave me a patch.

Oh, yes.

Yeah.

So I've seen Dave do that to many speakers before going on stage.

And they, you know, nicotine is very potent, right?

How did you, did you try it?

I tried it.

I put the, I did the 3MG one right here, let it bleed for like 20 minutes.

Got it.

And I felt more focused, yeah.

Yeah.

It, you know, it can also, if you overdo it with nicotine,

you can get sweats, nausea.

Yeah.

You know, you said that.

That's why you didn't give me the six.

Right.

Right.

It is.

And I happen to be very sensitive to substances.

And so I don't, I don't quite, I think we're, we should be totally sovereign beings in ourselves.

And, you know, they call breath the breath of life, right?

Prana chi.

We actually are able to create our own energy in our bodies.

Through breath work?

Yes.

Wow.

Yes.

How does that work?

Well, you know, with doing holotropic breath work of Stanley's Law of Grav,

through any type of breathwork, box breathing,

four, seven, eight breaths, you know, all of those, it's just getting in touch of bringing, well, you think about it, you're bringing oxygen in.

You're eliminating carbon dioxide.

That first breath starts the heart pumping when we come into the world.

The last breath when we die, that's the end of when our spirit leaves our body.

The breath is life.

So oxygen, you know, there's a, I was kind of joking around with some folks at the Longevity Fest this weekend, and I put it on my Instagram feed

around the new revolution is clean air of the air revolution.

Like we're all talking about what we put into our minds, what we put into our bodies.

And it's now, well, what are we breathing?

Are we breathing clean air?

Because most likely you're not if you're living in a city, right?

Right.

There's higher particulate matter.

You know, when we look in our homes,

if you have carpet in your home, you may have more toxic air inside than outside because we're bringing all of that in.

You know, one simple,

one simple health tip is take your shoes off at the front door.

Do not be tracking that into your house.

Yeah.

And I used to hate that as a kid, but now as a homeowner, I agree with that one.

I don't want people's dirty eyes.

Right.

That's right.

I mean, and you look at what's on the streets, it's a bunch of,

you know, a bunch of crap.

Yeah.

I got air filters in almost every room in my house.

You think those are effective?

That is.

It depends on which ones, but they are.

You know, I definitely, I would say just start in the bedroom because you're in there, what, six to eight hours a day.

But yeah, you definitely want to be filtering your air.

Yeah, that's crazy.

Is there ways to measure your air quality?

You know, there are.

It's, you know, you're looking at what's in it.

I think actually online, there's some great repositories on particulate matter in your city.

There was a website, I think it did get taken down, where you could put in your zip code and see what was being admitted in the air.

I wonder why that got taken down.

Yeah, that one, it was such a great resource and it just went missing.

Well, I remember when chemtrails was a conspiracy theory.

I know.

It's really interesting that way, right?

Like, no, there's geoengineering and now

all of this stuff is now becoming more transparent.

Yeah.

And there's aluminum that's being released in the air, which is.

Well, I measure heavy metals in all of our patients.

So

mercury, cadmium, arsenic, and lead, aluminum comes up.

You know, since Fukushima in Japan on the west coast, we have a lot more radioactivity coming down, and it gets concentrated then in the grass, into the butter of the cows.

And that was 80 years ago.

Well, no, the Fukushima was not too long ago.

Oh, okay.

Yeah, the last 20 years.

Yes.

Oh, okay.

Damn, that's crazy, though.

It lasts that long.

Yes.

So it doesn't go away.

Is there any ways to get that out of the body?

You know, saunas, sweating,

exercise, along these.

Now, on the radioactivity, there's just a half-life of that stuff that it will run its course.

The metals, yes, we do chelation therapy.

I learned early on with heavy metals,

you know, I had seen, in particular with Parkinson's, I saw a

doc did a push of glutathione, IV glutathione, and this gentleman's became, you know, all of his Parkinson's symptoms disappeared.

And I ran that on my first five patients with Parkinson's and nothing happened.

I thought, well, I know he didn't hire an actor to do this in there.

And I learned in environmental medicine to, well, we should check for metals.

Lo and behold, all five of them had metals.

Now, not everyone with neurodegeneration have metals,

but you need to rule it in or rule it out.

Goddess, you got to clear those out before you could heal.

That's right.

And a lot of people probably have metals.

I'd say more than 50%.

Well, we store metals in our fat, you know, and we could affectionately call each other fat heads right now.

And so the brain is all fat.

So we're looking at, you know, it's a limiting factor.

It's like you have a big hole in the bottom of your bucket that,

you know, you could put all the goodness up here.

It's just going to run out the bottom.

That's interesting.

That's good to know, though, because I take the glutathione supplement from Symbiotica, but I need to find out if I have metals.

It's a good, you've got to test.

And I used to split tests between hair and urine.

I actually

recommend doing the urine test the pre and the post uh there are you know very you've got to get the right provider that understands it we've been doing it 25 years uh when i split test there's a certain component of the population that doesn't have the genetics to excrete the metals in their hair whoa so it's not an accurate read there i actually like to give a chelating agent and collect urine for six hours after good to know so urine's an important test i've never done a urine test before i've done a blood test i haven't done a hair test, but yeah, I think that's good to know for people watching.

Well, we should connect you up with that.

Absolutely.

The other component on metals, I just quick add is dental health and amalgams.

Now, they're not always using mercury in those silver fillings.

A lot of people are getting composites, et cetera.

But I did learn early to address oral hygiene and root canals are really deadly

tooth extractions, right?

You have a meridian that goes to every tooth root of your body.

And I learned early,

had a woman about eight months into a therapeutic encounter, and it dawned on me.

I never asked, like, have you been to the dentist lately?

And she said, oh, no, but I have this root canal that I got to take care of, which is an infection at the nerve root, which was on her maxillary component.

She had chronic sinusitis.

And once we took care of that tooth, all of her sinusitis went away.

Wow.

Yeah.

That's crazy.

I am

playing with the idea of getting mine out.

They've, they've tried to take them out for 10 years.

The amalgams.

The root canals.

The root canals.

Yeah.

So, yeah, you, you want to go to a biologic dentist and we have some good connects for you if you'd like.

Yeah.

Because you don't want to just do that willy-nilly because that can make things a lot worse if you do it incorrectly.

Yeah.

I think two of mine have penetrated the skin.

There's a word for that.

The gum, I mean.

So they're through.

Yeah.

And they all have cavities so aha i should probably get them out well you definitely want to get that addressed because for long term at 25 that's gonna that will lead to some things that you don't want okay yeah we'll definitely set that up thanks yeah please connect me after yeah that's important i'm glad the root canal stuff's being talked about more because this growing up it wasn't even questioned no not even questioned and you know this component of again your teeth are just part of your mouth.

No, they're actually representative of your whole health.

And so you look at it, you know, the Chinese had this figured out long ago of the meridians are running there.

Right.

And

it's also the reflection of the quality of your blood in a Chinese medicine fashion.

The teeth, the hair, the nails are all extensions of the quality of your blood.

That's interesting.

Yeah, I've seen charts where each tooth is linked to an organ, right?

That's right.

So if you have a cavity on one of the tooth, it could mean the organ is suffering.

It could, yeah.

And again, that's that microcosm, macrocosm.

Like I was talking about the ear and the hand and the belly, the arm, same thing with the teeth.

It's, so it's this macrocosm, the global in the microcosm, the micro.

And you can go in and out, whatever level makes sense to you, and we can help your body heal itself.

I've seen some people, even with the eyes, look at your eyes.

Uridology.

Yeah.

I studied that as well.

Yeah.

Yeah.

It's really, I mean, it's the 10,000 things.

You can go just forever in, forever out that's the way it goes yeah it's super cool i've never done acupuncture you have not no i was always scared of it growing up i you know every day so for 25 years i've been practicing acupuncture uh i studied over in china university chengdu even went up into a region of tibet called calm um

How did they figure that out?

You know, it's like every day, it's like, it is so, um,

it's so sophisticated.

You know, you have pain on your right shoulder.

I can put a needle in your left ankle and make it go away.

What?

Yes.

That's not.

It is phenomenal.

It's like, you know, like, here's the lights, and then the light switch is over there.

Same connection.

Yeah.

And the idea behind it is there's energy blockages, right?

Causing the pain.

Exactly.

Just like, you know, you get a kink in the hose and you're trying to water the garden and what happened?

It just pressure builds.

Same thing with the meridians.

Now, the meridians, there are more and more research coming out on those on the microtubules.

Then we talk about the connective tissue and the fascia and then the energy current running in there.

It's that is super fascinating.

The fascia stuff is nuts.

Yes.

I had a guy on to walk me through like five minutes of fascia movements.

Yes.

And I grew an inch.

I felt incredible.

My face cleared up.

Like we took before and after photos.

And I couldn't believe it.

It is.

I mean, yeah.

So that instantaneous change.

It is so much fun, Sean, to have this knowledge and to be able to educate people about it and to say, look, there's a different way.

You just have to choose it.

Absolutely.

You got plans for more centers around the country?

We do.

You know, we have a lot of interest because of this database that we're creating.

It's a very,

that's kind of the gold of like, wow, that is a protected database with that information to create the change.

And so we've got, there are plans for brain regen labs or brain regeneration centers,

a a lot of network in licensing the ECL protocol.

You know, the way I look at it, there's way more suffering than anyone can handle, and we are way better together in a collaborative nature.

Absolutely.

Yeah, Parkinson's is no joke, man.

Yeah.

It affects the whole family.

It really does.

And, you know, when you start talking about it,

you'll know people that have it.

Right.

Yeah.

You said 2%.

Yeah.

I mean, and it's probably growing too.

It is.

And younger and younger folks are getting it now too.

Damn, yeah, because it used to be like when you're old, you would think 60s, 70s, and 80s.

And you sound like my kid

age is relative, right?

Yes, it is a state of mind.

Yeah, well, Dr.

Gregg, it's been a pleasure.

Where can people learn about you and the centers?

We are at energy4, the number fourlifecenters.com.

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