TikTok Ban Explained: What's Next for Social Media? | Emily Austin DSH #1134

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CHAPTERS: 00:00 - Intro 00:26 - Emily Austin 01:39 - Saudi Arabia Boxing 04:59 - Prolon 06:15 - Antisemitism 09:23 - California Wildfires 10:52 - DEI and Racism 12:55 - Judging by Character 14:45 - TikTok Trends 16:28 - NYC Safety Concerns 21:20 - Emily's Political Journey 24:18 - Inaccurate Polls 25:15 - Andrew Tate Controversy 26:58 - Candace Owens Insights 31:15 - Dan Bilzerian's Lifestyle 32:50 - Tucker Carlson Analysis 34:27 - Where to Find Emily
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Not have an iPhone, I mean this.

Me neither.

It's like I want to boycott them, especially when they change the chargers.

That was evil.

That's monopolization.

And the AirPods are annoying.

AirPods are annoying, and they don't even fit in here, by the way.

And they're EMF free dating, so I don't even.

I will never have an Android.

You heard it?

Unless Elon does it for me.

I would get Elon's phone.

I would trust Elon with my life.

All right.

All right, guys.

In DC today, we got Emily Austin.

Finally made it it happen.

Do I have like croissant on my teeth?

No, you just ate one though, right?

Yeah, it was really oming.

Thank you.

I love it.

I'm going to eat one after this.

I'm starving.

I haven't eaten anything today.

I took a red eye last night.

From where?

From Vegas.

Yeah.

I always think it's going to like work out and then you don't sleep on it.

Red eyes, well, okay.

I'll argue a red eye is better than a morning flight.

Really?

Because I don't get good sleep, but I'll like listen to music, close my eyes.

When I have a morning flight and I land, my instinct is to sleep.

And like, it's usually in the middle of the day.

At least a red eye, you can't justify taking a nap.

You're like, nope, got to get up, grind.

I know I'm like unpopular in this, but I'll die for a red eye.

Stinks are on the line on a red eye.

If you don't sleep your whole day, it's shocking.

Yeah.

I'll take my odds.

Yeah.

So I force myself to sleep on that flight.

You're probably traveling a lot lately, huh?

Yeah.

I mean, I travel, I travel so long that now when I take short flights, it bothers me because I don't mind planes.

I mean, now I'm afraid with all the accidents happening.

But like I fly to Saudi, it's like 16 hours.

Flew the other day to Miami.

It's my shortest flight yet.

And by the time I feel like I closed my eyes, we were landing.

I'm like, no, I didn't get to nap.

Like I can't do this.

Now when I land, I can't take a nap.

And I need the longer flights, which sounds really weird.

Wow.

First world problem right there.

Saudi, what are you doing over there?

So Saudi,

yeah, wow.

They just really, they do it all.

They have a huge sports initiative going on right now and I'm a boxing reporter primarily.

So they've really changed the game of boxing.

Like Turkey Al-Al-Chik is making the biggest fights happen.

We have Ryan Garcia, Devin Haney, canelo crawford this year and he's just making like the dream fights fury usik i know fury just retired but like he would have done fury aj yeah and uh a lot of them are in riyadh so i'll just spend like weeks there and i i love it yeah because you're with days and now right yeah you're covering the fights is that the same company that's doing mcgregor vs paul or is that a different one i think i don't know who i'm sure they'll end up streaming it i don't know if they have the primary rights for it That one's in India, which I don't think we do.

Yeah, McGregor Paul.

Wow.

The Mani family is behind it.

I didn't don't know anything.

I think they want it in India.

Okay.

I think a lot of people are trying to copy what Saudi is doing.

I don't think they could keep up, but they want to just bring, listen, the best way to bring tourism is sports.

There's nothing more people will unite over than a good soccer game or football game or

boxing.

Like I've never seen so many UKers in Riyadh.

Like it's bizarre, but they'll all fly out for like the Fury Usik fight.

Yeah.

It's brilliant actually.

Man, UK loves boxing.

I mean, they have like amazing boxers they have joshua they have fury they have uh now we have a eubank fight with um uh connor benn like the rivalries are happening and they're all uk based so yeah it's cool you've been paying more attention to boxing rather than basketball lately you know it's it's weird i love i'd say basketball is my first love but

box i mean because i work in it i've been keeping up way more and it's easier you know There's no playoffs.

There's no finals.

It's just like, okay, whoever wins this fight and wins the belts is the king, you know?

And it's a lot

more simple.

And honestly,

I mean, we're in DC.

No better place to discuss now.

The NBA's politics just

repulsed me a bit because

at one point I was like, oh, LeBron, like, stay out of politics.

It's not your game.

And then I could argue people could say the same to me, stay out of politics, you're a sports reporter.

And that's when I realized, no, these athletes do have a voice and they do have an opinion.

But when I realized most of them were actually just following the wave of the fake woke virus instead of being honest about their own opinions i blame the nba for that if they won't create a safe environment for people to be honest about their political opinions i have no respect for a league like that and a perfect example is when trump won i got a million congratulations from everyone including nba players that i'm in my head didn't you vote for kamala And now Stephen A.

Smith is coming out like, I didn't vote for Kamala, but I'm not upset Trump won.

Do me a favor.

You voted voted for Trump.

Who are you lying to, Stephen?

But the problem is he's probably afraid to say so.

Yeah.

And they all are.

So something has to shift.

I definitely agree.

Cause when you saw the BLM movement, it was so strong.

You didn't even believe in it.

Even the black athletes, a lot of them were like,

they took a knee and they were like, what are we doing?

You know, now I can't.

That I try not to stay out of.

Like, I'm not black.

I don't understand racism.

I understand anti-Semitism, but I'm not going to like stick my nose in a fight that's not mine.

I'll be an ally.

But when I found out, BLM.

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d lm was a huge scam i'm like where's the outrage because black lives matter didn't actually improve any black lives so i'm not black but i have common sense that's wrong yeah crickets you know

selective outrage yeah the anti-semitism stuff that's been nuts on x lately lately.

Almost every day I log in, I see it.

It's like, holy crap.

I appreciate X because

my argument on free speech is I'd rather know what you're thinking than it be a secret and then poof all of a sudden like Intifada comes out of nowhere.

Like I want to know what's up.

I want to know how you feel.

And it sucks that I have to go on X and read like, you know, Hitler should have finished the job or some crazy tweets, but I'm glad to know how you feel so I can prepare accordingly.

Right.

Like I got a gun after October 7th, like a legal carry permit.

I took training courses.

It was really difficult in New York, especially.

Yeah.

I'm in a Republican county, Long Island, but I have a statewide, actually, a lot of states.

I took Texas and Florida.

But seeing the spike in anti-Semitism, like, I'm not going to be an idiot again.

I've seen what the world's capable of doing, World War II.

I see the trend and I will not let history repeat itself.

So

get a gun.

Yeah.

I mean, they're finding that balance.

You start, Elon's starting to de-badge some people.

I don't know if you saw that.

Yeah.

You know what?

That to me isn't censorship.

Like, if you violate guidelines and you're being a vile monster, you don't deserve to make money off of your hatred.

And if you know what you signed up for when you signed the guidelines, like you won't make money off of it.

They're still getting millions of views.

That's not censorship.

I hate how they're equivocating that to Elon is censoring free speech.

No, he's giving you a platform because on any other platform, you'd be banned.

For sure.

Mark Zuckerberg to submit it.

Yeah.

Which is outreach, by the way.

Kind of threw the Biden administration under the bus, right?

Easy.

I'm so thankful to him for doing that because we all knew it.

I mean, if you say anything about Trump, you get like flagged or blackballed and you're gaslit that it doesn't exist.

Like TikTok, I'm not shadow banned, but I haven't gotten used since I said Kamala's

campaign was a Diddy Party.

It's not a coincidence.

I get banned on TikTok every week.

It's crazy.

Literally every week.

And I get it back and then I'm banned again.

Yeah.

It's nuts.

The same exact clip I post on TikTok, YouTube, Instagram, Twitter, nothing.

Yeah, no, I love X.

I think I have like a little ban going on.

I don't know why, but.

X is the best for politics.

I agree.

It's not even close.

It's best for everything.

I think it's just known for its like crazy political takes, but I could totally see like

an Instagram vibe going on there.

People just tweet more pictures.

Really, what's the difference then?

Yeah.

It's more unhinged comments.

Yeah.

X is just so fast too.

Like as soon as something happens, you know about it.

Yeah.

It's like unreal.

Yeah.

All the Senate hearings, you're like like actually there because you're crazy.

Like, I watch news a lot, but I've never received news quicker than X.

Like, I'm refreshing.

I'm like, Oh, did Hexeth not get wrong?

They're like, all on X.

It's crazy.

The Hex Seth clips were hilarious.

Yeah, that dude's a G.

The Jinx.

Yeah, I mean, his clips, I literally laughed.

I never watched Senate hearings or anything like that, to be honest, but he was just killing it.

In my opinion, yeah, shout out to him.

Um, this whole fire thing, how Callie handled it.

My favorite part about this outcome is

people blaming everything but the root of the problem, where it's like, it's tragic.

It's vile.

Everything that's happening is a harsh awakening to the root, which has failed leadership.

And I like how it's taking a turn into climate change is the issue.

And it's Trump's fault for neglecting climate change.

I mean, all Biden's the president for the last four years.

And I don't see the climate in a better.

predicament than it was four years ago at all, actually.

Yet they're like, yeah, it's the wind.

Did the wind take two sticks and rub them together to spark this fire?

Listen, it could have been an arsonist.

But the reality is no matter what you look at,

the root cause was Newsome.

And it's not just the wildfires.

It's how he's handling California as a whole.

And

what is it, Mayor Bass?

It's just negligence.

It's like, yeah, maybe on a date.

No, actually, there's no excuse.

Every single day, you should fulfill your duties to the like maximum that you can.

And if there were fire hydrants with no water in it, whoever is responsible for that needs to go to jail for negligence.

Because look how many people's lives are ruined from that.

And it's like, you'd think after what happened, hopefully California would somewhat flip bread, but instead, somehow it's everyone's fault, but Nusum.

It's everyone's fault, but the mayor.

And it's like, okay, let's just pin it on climate change instead of learning.

They were pointing a lot of fingers.

I saw DEI getting blamed.

I saw.

Because the hires were insane.

You're hiring someone to handle a place that's prone to wildfires because they're queer or because they're a person of color.

Like,

there's nothing to me more racist than DEI.

DEI is racist in itself.

The definition of racism is segregating people by their skin color or now it's religion or race.

But what's more racist than saying, okay, you're going to get this because of your skin color or because of your religion.

Now you're judging people by their religion or race.

That is racism.

Yet it's become this like popular fad in Biden's administration, DEI, like Mark Cuban defends it till the day he dies.

It's the most racist thing ever.

Like, and it's actually racist towards white people because now you're less qualified because of your skin color.

Like when I was applying to college, I remember telling my parents, yo, I'm Jewish and white.

I'm screwed.

I'm not getting it anywhere.

But how sad is that?

That like I worked my ass off and I knew I had a lesser advantage because I'm white.

Same.

I lied about being Asian because, oh my God, their average GPA was like 3.9.

So if I said I'm Asian, I'm not getting in.

You're white now.

Well, I am half white.

So I just said I was white.

Now you want to be white.

But I feel for all these Asians that try so hard in school.

And then just because they're Asian and they have better grades than like another race, they can't get in.

I just feel like we need to collectively agree.

That in general, and this goes, this is a bigger picture problem.

We have to stop judging anyone by anything but their character and work ethic.

So you're white, half Asian, whatever.

I don't care.

If I like you, I like you.

If you're qualified, you're qualified.

If you were black, great.

Like these headlines really piss me off.

It's like example, black man goes to space.

Why did you need to point out he was black?

Because now it makes it seem like you didn't expect it from a black guy, which is actually racist.

Because why did you expect a black man to go to space?

This is a real headline a couple of years ago.

And it's like, that's racist.

So people just don't see it that way.

I don't know.

It's only the woke people who don't.

Yeah.

Did you see last week when the Notre Dame football coach?

What happened?

He got asked, how does it feel to be the first black coach in the national CY?

That's so mean.

That's so racist.

And he answered, like, why does my skin color matter, basically?

Facts.

Yeah.

I'm so glad he's.

Did he get fired?

No.

No, I hope he doesn't.

He deserves it.

Like the NFL player who wore a MAGA hat or what he just

got pants.

The kicker.

Yeah, for sure.

Yeah.

He was getting a lot of heat just for wearing a hat.

But I'm sure if he wore a BLM hat or a Biden hat, he'd be fine.

Yeah.

Select.

Double standards, right?

Yeah, it must be tricky being an athlete with politics.

I feel like,

because you don't want to lose your job because think about it they spent 20 years being an athlete and now if they talk about politics why should they lose their job and it's funny like i don't i think most nba team owners are republican even though they pretend not to be like personally i think a lot of them are i could see it a lot of yeah where does it come from like if someone were to lose their job over being republican who's kind of whose jurisdiction is that like you know what guys let's censor him who it's not adam silver i don't think he cares it's got to be their sponsors their funders right?

Like, oh, Nike, I get that.

They're woke.

Nike, they get a lot of big pharma sponsors.

They're woke, but they use slave labor.

Yeah.

Apple, too, right?

Yeah.

You know, they're making phones for what, five bucks overseas.

Idiots like me pay like, what, $1,500 for a new phone?

I can't not have an iPhone.

I mean, it's...

Me neither.

It's like, I want to boycott them, especially when they change the chargers.

That was evil.

That's monopolization.

And the AirPods were annoying.

AirPods are annoying.

And they don't even fit my ear, by the way.

And they're EMF radiating.

So I don't even.

But I can't.

I will never have an android you heard it unless elon does a phone i would get elon's phone i would trust elon with my life i mean any company touches it kind of skyrocket take my data elon it's yours sell it indulge in it i don't care tick tock getting banned tomorrow right allegedly allegedly we'll see what happens they always do this and then push it back i feel like i don't know i've seen on x like it's banned it's not banned trump asked for a 90-day push they won't grant it um

my thoughts on it is that the current tick tock is an issue the The censorship, the suppression of like Republican voices, even though I do think Trump had a hot wave on it for a minute, I think when they realized he was winning, they kind of just like, screw it, let's let it happen.

But in general, they are too obvious with their censorship.

Now, if somebody like Kevin O'Leary or Elon Musk were to buy it, I think that they would balance that out like Elon did with X.

But right now, under what is it, ByteDance, it's just disastrous.

And this is not even addressing like the Chinese alleged CCP spying.

I absolutely believe it.

Like they're spying.

I'm sure the U.S.

is spying too.

Personally,

I would rather see it banned.

If they don't ban it, amazing.

Let's just bring it into somebody more responsible's hands for freedom of speech, less even about the surveillance.

Like, all right, I know this is stupid, but maybe someone in the comments could address this.

What is China doing with my data?

Like, I'm not that interesting of a person.

Okay, even if you read all my texts, okay, that's like uncomfortable or whatever.

But

what's what are they, what do they want?

Like, they hacked apparently 23and me okay now you know i'm iraqi and ukrainian yeah they're gonna clone you yeah actually i mean you're doing a disjustice to yourself you do that

there's there's enough emiles yeah who knows what they're doing that that one was weird though because blackrock was involved and i don't trust blackrock yeah so i try not to get too conspiratorial but it is weird we're not suicidal yeah we're not you know we're not um not in the slightest

um so trump's winning guys life is good yeah life's good for the next four years at least how are you feeling safety wise in New York right now?

Like, do you take public transit?

Never.

First of all, never.

So I used to take the LIR in like high school.

I had like improv classes in the city.

It's the last time I took a train.

And this was a couple of years back.

I remember like just constantly homeless people throwing like cans of tuna, cans of corn, be like just throwing it at women on the station.

And I remember there were cops there and they kind of weren't doing anything because this was also during like defund the police, you know, police brutality.

So they were kind kind of afraid to do anything about it.

And I was just like, why should I have my nose broken taking the train?

Like, that's a big deal for a woman to walk around with a crooked nose.

And

it was just sad because driving into the city, especially now with the new congestion pricing, is disastrous.

You never find parking.

You pay $87 for a parking lot in Manhattan.

Now you pay $9 to cross the Midtown Tunnel.

Like, it's insane what's going on.

But you think I'm going to go on a subway and risk either getting beaten, stabbed, shot, burnt alive, spit on, peed on, New York is becoming like a shithole.

And Governor Hokul is like, hmm, how do we solve?

How do we make the state a better place?

Let's forget the violence on the subway and let's increase the price for commuters.

Maybe we wouldn't commute so much if you made our subway system safer.

Maybe if you didn't defund the police, we'd feel safer.

It's like,

someone has to run against her.

I really hope Richie Torres runs.

I hope so.

He's a Democrat.

He's a person of color, if that still matters.

I don't think he cares.

He's qualified.

And like, Governor Hokul is just not, she's like another newsom.

You know, look at DeSantis.

Look at Florida.

They're thriving right now.

Crushing it.

Miami is a city to be.

I want to live there.

I feel safe there.

And it's like, can't blame guns.

Everybody got a gun there.

It's just strong leadership.

And New York just lacks that.

Our mayor is, you know, whatever.

I don't flip-flop.

I don't mind Mayor Adams.

He definitely flip-flop, but because

it fits my agenda, I'm okay with it.

Well, he was getting tried like federally, right?

Yeah, he wants a pardon.

100%.

We see you, Mayor.

I mean, if I was in his shoes, I'd do the same thing.

I can't even.

Everyone's hopping on the Trump bandwagon now.

Yeah.

I mean, Zach, Bezos, Elon.

The best thing was when Trump won,

people came up to me, people that I know damn well did not do anything for him.

They were like, oh, we did it, Emily.

We?

Who is we?

Because I know I did my part.

You were hiding there.

You went to the booth, filled out Trump, and you think we did something?

Like, you pretended you voted for Kamala, and I have no respect for you.

Yeah.

When did you become outspoken about Trump?

Was it in 16?

16.

I was 15 years old, so I didn't even vote.

But

no, I wasn't really involved in the 16 election.

I would say

in 20, I voted not really understanding much.

My parents like, go vote for Trump.

And after he lost and I saw the outrage, I was like, okay, let's get to the bottom of this.

And I really try to understand both perspectives because I don't like to judge anyone by their political affiliation, race, religion, whatever.

But I really just resonated with the Republican values, the conservative values.

It wasn't so much of a, oh, I like to be Republican for any reason other than I happen to agree with most, most of their policies, not all of them.

I don't, you don't have to be so black or white with everything.

And therefore, I just also started speaking out about my policies.

And people are like, are you a Trumpy?

And I was like, I voted for Trump and it was like taboo then to say anything about

and I said, how come I didn't like Biden?

You voted for him and I respect you, but I voted for Trump and now you don't respect me for that.

How is that?

How are you the party of inclusivity?

Yeah.

And I just started noticing like the hypocrisy of the Democratic Party.

And it only got worse within the four years because it just became more tolerated, I'd say, and the wokeness became like encouraged and shoved down people's throat.

And I was not having it.

So I was like, people already hate me for voting for Trump.

Now I'm going to become his number one fan and advocate.

And I did.

And I just went out there, like ripped the bandaid off.

I mean, love it.

Needless to say, lost a lot of jobs over it, but it was so worth it.

And now, especially in your space, you know, in the broadcasting space, you probably lost so many opportunities.

Yeah.

I mean, I was a Miss Universe judge.

They're so woke, so woke.

I can't take them anymore.

It's like nauseous Trump.

Please buy it again.

It's not a marketable thing.

You're not going to make money.

It's not profitable.

But just take it out of their hands.

It's like, whatever.

I didn't know Trump owned that at one point.

He sold it.

Yeah.

Wow.

So who owns it now?

JKN Group.

She is a transgender

billionaire from Thailand.

Whoa.

Yeah.

I didn't know there was any transgender billionaires.

I'm actually surprised.

That's crazy to me.

I'm surprised.

No, like, that's nuts.

Like, shout out to her, I guess, or him.

I don't know what.

It was a he, and now he's her.

Okay.

And I don't care.

Like, I call her she.

If you're she or he, I don't care.

When you're they, them, I'm like, just choose one.

Well, AOC removed her pronoun.

So I think we're done with that era.

Imagine she becomes MAGA.

Yeah.

We don't want you.

That'd be nuts.

We don't want you.

You debated Harry Sisson, right?

I couldn't believe that.

Oh my God.

Cause it's like a lot of my debates were very hostile, especially about the Israel-Palestine conflict.

And I never intend for them to be.

Like, I'm always down for a conversation.

And Harry was cool in the way that he could, like, off camera, actually hold his ground.

But it was hard to actually take what he said seriously.

Like, I looked him in the eye and I said, who do you think Putin and Xi Jinping will respect more?

Biden, Kamala, or Donald Trump?

And he was like, Biden, totally Biden.

And I'm like, Harry, you don't believe that.

But he actually does.

So I feel bad for him.

Wow.

And I follow him on X and he follows me back and I just see his tweets.

And I would love to hire someone to see if he's getting paid by the Democratic Party.

I think he allegedly.

But he's not a dumb kid.

I think he allegedly is getting paid.

Because that would make, that's the only thing that makes sense.

And you know what?

A lot of people would be lying if they say they wouldn't do it either.

Personally, I would never.

I can't compromise my morals for anything.

I just feel like that's bad karma.

But he's not a dumb person.

He's definitely brainwashed or well-paid.

I think Bryce Hall exposed this.

That he's paid.

I think he found it.

Sorry, come on.

Just he found allegedly a payment going to one of his companies or something.

But let's be honest, that happens on both sides, you know?

Yeah.

Like maybe not directly, but like indirectly, there's people happen.

I mean,

it definitely happens more than on the Democratic side.

I think a lot of Republicans that speak out actually come to their senses.

Like Antonio Brown started speaking out.

I thought that was really funny.

And I'm sure that was like taboo in the NFL.

Now you have that player who did the Trump dance.

It's just becoming more normalized.

So I think you'll see more people switch sides, even though they were never really on the left.

But like the Democrats, they paid Beyonce, Lizzo, Meg The Stallion.

Like they actually are famous for paying celebrities to support them.

Oh, bro, got a million or so.

Yeah.

A million is hard to turn down.

Yeah, you can't turn down a million dollars to be like i actually

i i don't know if you're watching this guys you know her price for me for me trump's election was life or death like legit it's that serious for me so in an election like this it was like i thought if trump doesn't win like this country's done for i was looking at real estate in dubai whoa yeah legit i started looking to like move out of the country you were that worried yeah holy missouri for safety like look at california imagine that became a country That's how the U.S.

would be under Kamala.

So I started looking elsewhere.

So in an election like this, I don't think there's a room to be bought.

I think generally, maybe if things are harmless, fine.

Yeah.

Like in an election that's like, I don't know, what was the most

agreed on election?

It was like Reagan

before our time.

Yeah, before we were born.

Now social media just amplifies everything.

It's like the stakes are high.

So I thought.

I mean, if you looked at the polls election night,

besides,

what was it?

Polymarket.

Polymarket was pretty accurate.

College was good too.

But if you were looking at just the general polls, you thought this election was 50-50.

Trump annihilated her.

It was not 50-50.

And I feel lied to that I actually believed it was 50-50.

Now I'm, now I'm just like, whatever.

I mean, she was favored to win up first by a lot.

Where do they get these numbers from?

You know what I want to know?

When they say that they poll people, I've never been called.

Never.

I've been texted actually.

I've never been asked ever who I voted for, who I planned to vote for.

So when you...

allegedly poll people, you're taking a tiny group and then you're just like assuming that it's going to go across the board state by state.

I don't know.

Yeah, it's not an accurate system.

They need to come up with something else or just not do it at all, honestly.

Yeah, it's like surprising.

It's never accurate.

I mean, why, why does it even matter?

If anything, it makes people not want to vote.

Yeah, because they feel like confident.

Oh, he's going to win anyway.

So, yeah.

Do you have any faith in Tate winning over in the UK?

He just announced he's running, right?

Hell no.

You don't think he has a shot?

I think he's still going to jail.

What do you mean?

I hope he goes to jail.

Yeah, him and Shapiro are going at it right now.

Ben is a genius.

You can't debate a genius like that.

I've never seen Ben losing a debate personally.

Because he's too smart and he's too rational.

He just speaks like common sense.

He's not disrespectful.

He's not antagonizing.

He doesn't do it for the clickbait.

Like you're just debating a smart man.

He's actually a debater.

That's the difference.

And he's smart and he knows what he's talking about.

Andrew Tate loves attention.

This man, he's like Handis Owens.

They will say anything just to get that viral moment, to be the cool guy, to.

like follow the masses like they don't understand what cowards they are have your own opinion have your own backbone and don't do it for the clicks Like, I actually used to respect Andrew Tate because I was a big proponent and like,

unfortunately, not so unfortunately, gender roles exist.

Like you'd be ignorant to deny that.

Like women are expected to X, Y, Z and men are the same.

And I think masculine men are

the alpha males, the attractive men that like a woman naturally is attracted to.

So when he's like, masculine men have to provide for their wives and take care of their home and be a father figure, I agree with that.

But then he starts demonizing women and he's like, woman, go go make my sandwich in the kitchen.

I'm like, oh, you think you're cool now because like these little beta boys who have insecurity issues agree with you and you made a platform out of it.

Congrats.

But then the sex trafficking and the rapes and I believe all of it.

I believe all of it.

You beat the case, though.

I know, but I don't think it's over.

Wow.

So you think he'll get tried in the UK for it?

I hope so.

I mean, for running for PM, no.

Yeah.

Zero chance.

Yeah.

I mean, I think, yeah, there's stuff I agree with, but the red pill movement got a little too toxic for me.

Well, I'd say, and it's not spoken about enough, and it's okay to call out your own party's problems.

The extreme right is equally as bad as the woke virus.

Yeah, agree.

They're both bad.

Like, Kansas Owens, to me, is a vile person.

Really?

Yeah.

I hate her so much.

Well, she exposed a lot of truth, too.

She exposed the BLM movement for like being a hoax.

I mean, she's also said, she said Sandy Hook was a hoax, which is like outrageous.

Yeah, that's so.

I thought that was Alex Jones.

She agreed with him.

Oh, okay.

And,

you know, she said like Jews killed Michael Jackson.

Putin and Stalin were Jews.

Like, she says the craziest things because it gets attention.

And she took the BLM thing to the next level.

So if you believe in something and you prove your case, I have respect for you for doing so.

But it's like the way she does it is she wants to always poke and jab rather than just like, she thinks if she uses fancy words, that she made her argument better.

Like she's still a conspiracy theorist.

She's still a nut job.

She just promoted a RedNote, that app instead of TikTok, that the CCP, literally, you sign up community guidelines in Mandarin and like she's okay with giving her data there.

Why?

Now it's cool to do so because all the Gen Zers are doing it.

Like this woman is now influencing millions of Americans to go download an app that literally you're swearing an oath to the CCP.

Wow.

How irresponsible are you?

But she'll do anything for clicks at this point.

She's spitting on her plate.

She's a zero without Ben Shapiro.

Candace Owens is a nothing without Ben Shapiro.

And now she's like spitting on the plate that gave her food.

She's just an ungrateful woman.

She's probably miserable in her marriage.

Like, I don't know.

Would you debate her ever?

Yeah, why not?

Let me set that up because she's coming on my show this year.

Yeah.

I wonder what I wonder what she'll blame the Jews for then.

Why can't she debate Ben Shapiro?

That would be amazing.

He'll cook her.

That would be a good debate.

He will cook her.

That would be a good one.

I want to see Brett Cooper speak out on her situation with Daily Wire, too.

Yeah.

She's coming on as well.

I'd love to hear it.

Yeah.

I think it's interesting how she left.

Apparently, it was amicable, but we'll see.

I think she'll just maybe profit more off of her own show.

If you have a big audience, why do you really need any platform?

Just do it yourself.

You're doing yourself.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Why not?

I mean, you really, in the podcast space, you could do it on your own.

I think you can.

Yeah.

It's not like it's crazy.

I mean, I spend a good amount, but you could, you could be lean.

Yeah.

You don't need a huge team.

I think Brett will be okay.

I just want to know what happened to.

She probably signed something.

You think so.

We'll see.

Yeah.

Well, well, the co-host or the assistant took over the show or something.

I don't know.

Honestly, I don't.

I don't watch anything but Ben Shapiro and I don't watch it religiously.

I'm not a big podcast person, honestly.

I watch

anything that's on X.

If it's on my feed, I'll watch it.

If it's on my Instagram feed, I'll watch it.

And Fox News, I watch.

Okay.

Anything else, it's just like, I don't have time to, but if I were to watch podcasts, I would have to listen to comedy because everything's so heavy nowadays.

So like I need a break.

There's some good comedy ones.

But Ben, like when I'm studying for

a topic or want to know like

anything about it, I'll definitely watch Ben Shapiro.

That's that's cool.

So when you prep for debates, you watch his argument.

Sometimes I don't resonate with his arguments, by the way.

He could be right, but for a reason that's not like my main reason.

So sometimes I'll watch it and be like, nope, not my argument, like not my space.

Who did I watch a lot for my debate preps?

I just read books, honestly.

Really?

Yeah.

For debate prep?

Yeah.

Wow.

I like to know what other people are thinking.

So it's funny, Xavier DeRusso said he became Republican by studying the liberal.

So I do the two when it comes to anti-Semitism.

So like people think I'm crazy.

I read like My New Order by Hitler.

i said i said i want to know what he was thinking because i see you know a lot of anti-semitism and and i see that clearly he succeeded in a way so i want to see what the you know common denominator here and i think it's if you read it it's like whoa is there any middle ground anything you agree with anti-semitic crowd like people like jake shields or dan bazaarin is there anything there is there anything i agree with

I so what's unfortunate is that because they're Republican, I happen to agree with them on a lot of things.

Right.

But when Candace will will debate Rabbi Shmuley and say like, Jews did 9-11, and then I see some of my friends listening to this that are sitting on the fence, like,

it's like when Amazon asks you, did you get your package?

And you're like, no.

And then they say, prove it.

And you're like,

I didn't get it.

When Candace makes such a baseless claim, like, Jews did 9-11, and then again, uses fancy words to support her thesis.

You can't prove otherwise.

Like, okay, no, Al-Qaeda did 9-11.

She goes, no, but that was a hoax by the American government.

Blah, blah, blah.

No, it wasn't.

But because now she said something and it's like unheard of and uncommon, it becomes trendy and cool.

Dan Lazarian, I don't even know if that's his last name, Blizzardian.

Bill Lazarian, whatever.

Like,

it's so crazy to me that this guy is like a womanizer, a porn addict, like, looks like he's jacked up on Roids and his new claim to fame.

I didn't know who the hell he was before he became anti-Semitic.

Really?

You never heard?

I didn't, no, no, because why would I follow a womanizer like that?

Like, I don't, I'm not into like him.

A lot of guys get a big male following.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I don't care about that.

I'm street.

So

I was just like, who is this guy that's like jacked up on Roids that's talking about Jews?

And I noticed it started when it became trendy.

If you were a real anti-Semite, you would have done it years ago before it was cool.

That's true.

You know, at least have a backbone.

I say this all the time.

If you disagree with me, but you mean it, I still have somewhat respect for you.

But these people are doing it, like I said, for the clicks.

They're trend riding, yeah.

Like, what else did Candace say recently?

I mean, Redno is outrageous.

Now, Candace, just go to China and just go support the CCP.

I'm sure they'll pay her generously.

Yeah.

Maybe they are.

Who knows?

I think Fuentes got banned on Rednote already.

He didn't even post yet.

I saw that.

I really, really, I don't have proof, but I would love to look.

I can't believe that A.

Tucker,

I have an idea about Tucker, but I'm not getting sued.

Tucker, Candace, Dan, who else is on my list?

Oh, you don't like Tucker?

He became part of, to me, he's extreme rate.

Really?

To me, he's like, like riding Russia, like glazing them.

He's now like critic.

He's also on Candace's Jewish conspiracy theories.

Oh, I didn't know that.

Yeah, big time.

I have no respect for him anymore.

I did a lot.

Yeah, because he broke a lot of stories early on.

Damn.

I lost my respect for him, too.

I saw him in Doha in Qatar and somebody's like, go say hi to Tucker.

I was like, I'm Jewish.

Why would I go talk to him?

He's disgusting.

And I would love to see if he's receiving foreign money.

Tucker, Candace, Dan.

I bet you they are.

I went to Tucker's tour and I saw him with Roseanne Barr.

I thought when he interviewed Putin, it was kind of an important interview, honestly.

Yeah.

No, I agree with his political takes, which again makes it harder for me to dislike them because they're on that anti-Semitic wave.

It just, it's like, it's unfortunate.

But to me, they're falling into that like alt-right category.

where they actually hurt the Republican Party because people affiliate all of us with extremists like them.

Like not all of us are so black or white.

They make it black or white, especially Candace.

It's like any popular topic or unpopular topic, she'll have to just take the opposite stance and ride with it.

And it's like, do you think for yourself or are you just doing what's cool?

I don't know, but I think there's definitely

time will tell, right?

I think the truth always comes out eventually.

We'll see.

Especially money.

Follow the money.

Follow the money.

There was that alleged Russian payments to those podcasts.

Did you see that?

The 10 million.

So believe it.

Yeah.

So we'll see.

Hopefully they release the 9-11 documents too under Trump.

Yeah.

That'd be major.

How about the Diddy Party list first?

Epstein list, Diddy list, please.

I want to see that.

I mean, we kind of know.

Democrats are going down.

Gonna be a fun next four years.

Emily, where can people keep up with you and find you?

Oh, well, if TikTok gets banned, they banned me anyway.

Instagram, emily.austin, X.

I tweet a lot.

I X a lot.

I post a lot.

Emily R.

Austin.

Yeah, post sounds better.

I post a lot.

X a lot sounds weird.

Emily R.

Austin.

And if Emily Austin wants to give me back my username, I'll take it.

Someone take your username?

I I mean, it's taken, and I don't think they're active.

Oh, wow.

Hit a B-ron.

Slide those Dion.

I'm trying to go to the X event Sunday.

We'll see.

Hell yeah.

All right.

Thanks for watching, guys.

Check her out.

Peace.