How to Manifest Success Without Losing Your Soul | David Castañeda DSH #1061
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CHAPTERS:
00:00 - Intro
00:32 - Transitioning Journey
04:22 - Growing Up in Mexico
08:22 - Ayahuasca Experience
10:43 - Exploring Ayahuasca
13:05 - Childhood Reflections
14:55 - Opening Up Emotionally
17:06 - School Experiences
20:38 - Connection to Nature
22:38 - Benefits of Fasting
23:20 - Memory and Recall
25:03 - Ayahuasca Insights
29:20 - Shadow Work Exploration
32:21 - Embracing Growth Challenges
35:32 - Confronting Addiction
37:00 - Childhood Prayers and Beliefs
38:26 - Understanding Old Souls
39:48 - Insights on Fatherhood
42:34 - Embracing Cultural Heritage
43:50 - Experiences with Racism
45:05 - Overcoming Lack of Confidence
47:00 - Relaxation in Acting
47:40 - Managing Anxiety Attacks
48:53 - Living in the Present
50:25 - Relationship Stress
53:36 - Closing Thoughts and Reflections
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I love nature.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You should go to Iquitos.
So when I did 10 days, every day felt like a year.
I bet.
Yeah.
No phone.
No, dude.
And then you're sitting in your tambo.
A tambo is like a hut, but there was a hole in my tambo and a bat came in.
Whoa.
And pitch black, dark.
And I'm thinking, I can't believe I put myself in this situation.
It took a while, but by day eight, I was like, oh, I can live without my phone now.
All right, guys, we got David on the show today.
Thanks for coming on, man.
Thanks for having me, John.
Big change in your life right now as you're transitioning, right?
Yeah, yeah, I am transitioning.
Nice, because you just played a major role and now the show's over, so you're looking for that next big thing.
Yeah, I don't even know if it needs to be big.
Okay.
It's more so just I need to figure out
what is calling me.
You know, because
what how big that show was was unexpected, and
I'm okay with it not happening again.
Really?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Wow.
Yeah.
Why?
You know, I have no control over that.
That is completely a
zeitgeist moment with that show.
So if I try to match that again, I'll be severely depressed for the rest of my life.
That's really impressive that you have that mindset already because usually it takes people years to come to that.
Yeah.
I mean, I watched...
I know Will Smith talked about this in a lot of interviews where he says that he wanted his movie to be number one, you know, and that was his way of, you know, sort of gauging success.
And then eventually that becomes a
you're sort of biting at your own tail by that point.
So I think that's sort of the, the message that I got from that.
I was like, oh, yeah, like,
you know, I can already act and I'm making money off of that.
And that should be enough.
And then what comes from that is extra.
Interesting.
Yeah, yeah.
So you're not chasing that number one.
No.
No, no, no.
I mean, it's, it'd be nice to be successful.
It'd be nice to be liked and loved.
And I think as humans, that's what we want.
We want to be accepted.
But being number one,
you know, it's not true because there's always going to be someone better than you.
There's always going to be someone.
And it's good to be chasing that.
Like, oh, I want to be better.
I want to be better.
But to actually
understand that like there is someone better than you is,
you know, it could be very
depressing, you know, if you're really gauging your validation off of that.
Which a lot of people do.
They gauge it in money, they gauge it in views.
Yeah.
External things.
I think so.
I think that's sort of the, you know, especially when you're dealing with like social media and stuff, you have a lot of comparison.
Right.
Especially as an actor, I bet.
Dude, I mean, with age, it's so funny.
Age and acting is, is, I think there's been a stigma within that, especially.
I assume also for women, which is even more.
But age and acting, it's so funny because I'll be, you know, when I was first auditioning, I was going in for like the teenage roles.
And the next thing you know, I was going for the college roles.
And now I have friends hitting me up and he's like, hey, do you know any good actors that can play college?
And I'm like, oh shit, like, I'm not that.
I'm not that anymore.
I'm like, what am I?
And they're like, now I'm getting auditions to play like a father.
Dang.
Yeah, dude.
And I was like, oh my God, like, oh, this is, I need to catch up with my mentality to be that, to be okay with that.
Because I think that sort of becomes a, how old are you?
I'm 27.
Oh, okay.
Yeah.
I thought you were younger for some reason.
It's hard to tell with Asians.
yeah it's true yeah for sure yeah what about you i'm 35 okay i'm 35 but it is true i mean my my great grand my uh my great grandfather's chinese oh nice yeah yeah i'm half chinese half chinese so a lot of my uh a lot of my cousins have
they look really good
and they also get really red when they drink i get red it's an asian thing yeah do you take the there's like a a pill that they take i've tried it yeah it works really Yeah, I don't drink too much, but when I do, I'll try to drink that.
Or there's a patch.
A patch?
Yeah, we have this gene break.
We can't process alcohol, so we're technically allergic to alcohol.
Yeah.
That's what my cousin was telling me.
I was in Phoenix seeing them a few days ago, and she was like, I am allergic to alcohol.
Yeah.
You know, and a lot of people are.
Half of Asians, I believe.
Which is pretty crazy.
That's crazy.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Wow.
It's nuts.
But you grew up in Mexico, though, right?
Yeah, yeah.
Seven, seven to 14.
Was acting big over there?
No.
No, no, no.
I mean, when you're in Mexico, man, like, you, most of the time, what you're doing is you're playing imagination because there's dirt, there's marbles, there is a lot of heat, you know, and there's not, and, you know, if you're lucky to have an AC,
most of the time it's not on because it costs so much money to have the AC on.
So you have to be outside.
Wow.
You have to.
Yeah.
Like when I was a kid, my mom would be like, all right, you know, just come back before the sun comes down.
And that was my childhood in Mexico.
Dang.
Yeah, so you get to actually
have an
your imagination runs wild because there's nothing to do or to keep you entertained.
Wow.
Yeah.
Have you been to Mexico?
I've been to the touristy parts, so I don't know if I count it.
Which one?
Cancun.
Okay.
Riviera Maya.
Okay.
And there was Ensenada.
Ensenada.
It was my favorite.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
Why?
Because it wasn't as touristy.
So when I travel, I like to actually experience the local culture.
Yeah.
So with Cancun and Riviera Maya, we were just in a resort.
I don't really count that as a Mexico because we're just cooped up.
But in Sonata, I got off the cruise boat.
I walked to the local fisherman village, ate food there, talked with the locals.
My fiancé speaks Spanish, and that was really cool.
Wow.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Did you go to Ishcare?
No.
Okay, because that's close.
That's like Riviera Maya.
Okay.
That's where you grew up.
No, I grew up in Sinaloa.
Sinaloa is like, it's northwest.
Okay.
Yeah.
It honestly, Sinaloa looks like California.
Really?
Yeah, sort of obviously by the water, and it has almost the exact same length between California and Sinaloa.
Oh, so it's pretty long.
It's long.
And, you know, some people like to, I don't know if some people, but call it the cartel state.
Oh, so it's pretty dangerous there going up.
It's not dangerous at all.
Not for me, at least, but there is a lot of things that could happen.
Only if you're in bad business, I would say.
Got it.
Plus, you were a kid, so that you were probably protected.
Yeah, but you know, when I was,
I got out of there in 2004, and that's when things got really bad.
Cause I remember like, you know, going back to the US and just hearing stories about some classmates and their dads like turning up dead.
Whoa.
Yeah.
And, you know, they were involved in a certain way.
And I'm like, oh, like, this is real.
Like, some of these people are,
yeah, in danger.
In danger.
You got out the right time.
I did.
I did.
But I go back.
You know, I go back.
Well, Well, now you're probably a legend there.
I don't know if I'm a legend.
No, but what I do go back, man, it's really fun.
It's fun.
There's a lot.
Yeah, there's a lot of family.
There's a lot of friends.
Is it still as bad or did it kind of...
No, the thing about Mexico, man, is like Mexico is a space where you have...
If you're in bad business,
you know, yeah, you're going to be put in a very dangerous position.
But if you were like, you know, the only people that you hear get, you know, killed at a random spot is wrong place, wrong time.
And I think that happens in a lot of places in the world.
Okay.
Now, I'm not one to speak about the Mexican politics because I haven't been really been informed about what's happening over there.
But when I go, my parents go, my parents go like twice a month.
They love going over there.
We have a house.
Nice.
We live in El Fuerte.
I don't know if you've ever been to the north side or the west side of Mexico.
North side.
So sonora, sinaloa.
Oh, you've been to Ensenada.
So Ensenada is sort of the Baja California.
Okay.
Yeah.
I would recommend if you go back to Riviera Maya, go a little bit more towards,
I mean, Tulum is nice.
Pricey, though.
Very pricey.
That's where I went actually last time to do ayahuasca.
Oh, yeah.
Tulum.
Yeah.
Well, a little bit south of that.
This place called Cumankaya.
It's called.
Nice.
And how was that?
It's great.
Yeah.
I've been doing it.
I've never done it, but it's intriguing to me.
You ever done shrooms?
I've done shrooms.
How was that?
I've had both good and bad trips on shrooms.
Okay.
But now I micro-dose them.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
I haven't had a full trip in quite some time, though.
Now, how do you distinguish a good trip from a bad trip?
So the one bad trip I had was because someone came over that I didn't know and his energy just felt horrible.
Oh, dude.
And I just immediately like broke down.
He was a drug dealer, actually.
So was he dropping off the mushrooms for you?
No, he was like a weed or Coke dealer or something, but um he just pulled up to my friend's house and we were both tripping my friend and i and just his energy really was just awful and what about a good trip good trip was in amsterdam where it's legal i walked into the place bought an eighth of shrooms ate it all and walked for eight miles straight just a smile on my face wow yeah i didn't stop walking wow yeah i've had moments like that with shrooms where i've been so happy and you're laughing with people telepathically.
Yep.
Like you're just like, you know exactly the joke and you're just laughing.
And it's like the fun.
And like
one time I went to
Pismo Beach with a few buddies of mine and we all did them.
Right.
Except one buddy, another one buddy of mine was just drinking 18, an 18 pack of beer.
He's like, I don't want to do that shit.
So we're all, you know, doing it and, you know, we're like having a good time.
You know, we, we, we, we're camping and I'm looking at one of my friends and he turns into an egg yolk.
And it's the funniest thing, dude.
Uh, I won't even say his name because I don't,
but he looked like an egg yolk.
And next thing you know, we look and we see the water.
It's flowing over to us, you know, and we're like, yo, because we're by the ocean.
And we start tripping out.
He was like, yo, are we going to get flooded?
So we wake up, my buddy, who was drinking the 18-pack because he was so drunk.
And he was like, hey, dude,
should we move the car?
Should we move everything?
Because we had set up the whole 10.
He comes out.
He's like, bro, he's like, no.
He's like, chill out.
And we're like, oh, okay, okay.
But it was so fun doing that.
I've had bad trips also.
Was it the people you were with?
No, no, no, different people.
But the same thing, like one of them turned into a demon.
Damn.
Yeah.
He started laughing and he was like, and I was like, oh, you're not a friend anymore.
Like, I immediately was like, oh, you're not a friend.
But it does help you actually like
really gauge people's energy.
100%.
100%.
Yeah.
I think ayahuasca does the same thing.
But ayahuasca is more internal.
Like you don't do ayahuasca.
Like, I'm not going to do ayahuasca with you and be talking to you.
That's not a thing.
It's like very much like, hopefully you're guided with like a shaman.
Yeah.
And they, talk you through it.
They talk you through it.
Yeah, I don't know if you, what do you know about ayahuasca?
Do you know?
I know sometimes you have an out-of-body experience.
Some people report E.T.
encounters.
Some people throw up.
I've done a lot of research on it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
All those things have happened.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I've been doing that for like 10 years.
Whoa.
So do you do it like every year or when it calls you or when it calls me?
Okay.
But since 2015.
Wow.
Yeah.
And it's been pleasant experiences?
Every time.
Really?
Every time.
But pleasant in a way of uncomfortable.
Okay.
So back in 2021, I went to Iquitos, Peru, and I did 10 days, no electricity, no phone.
I was in a hut, and
the closest place to get cell service was like a three-mile walk.
I would have gone crazy.
Oh, but that's the thing.
And that's the thing that teaches you, right?
It's like you get so uncomfortable.
that by the time you come out of it, you
recondition yourself to actually be the person that you were always meant to be.
So it doesn't change you.
It just makes you more of what you really are.
Interesting.
Yeah, it kind of, it sort of, it centers you.
So then when you're looking at people, you're not looking at like preconditioned ideas of something.
You're actually just looking at them.
Wow.
And so if you're just looking at them,
sometimes it can make people feel uncomfortable because it's like, what are you thinking of me right now that you're looking at me?
But that's not the case.
Sometimes people just want to be seen.
And so looking at them is, I feel, a lost art with so much.
You just hold that eye contact.
Yeah, that makes people uncomfortable.
It makes people uncomfortable.
I mean, where I grew up in La Puente and, you know, you look at someone and the first thing they're like, who's so homie?
Yeah, yeah.
They want to fight you.
And it's like, oh, you have so much anger inside of you, you know?
Or there's something inside of you that is afraid to be seen.
Right.
And that
it's, you know, some people need it.
I get it.
You know, some people need it as a way of protecting protecting themselves.
But
I don't know if I fully agree with that being the only way to be.
But did you have that growing up?
Some anger?
I don't know if I had anger.
I definitely had a chip on my shoulder.
What was that from you then?
I moved a lot.
I was moving.
We lived in like 14 different houses before we went to Mexico.
Whoa.
Yeah, just going from like aunt's house to another aunt's house.
And then, so that's why my parents were like, this is not sustainable.
Right.
Like, we're living a rat race in the U.S.
Let's go back to Mexico.
So I I went to Mexico.
And so because I was always the new kid, I always wanted to insert myself.
So there's a way of proving yourself within that.
So like, how do I, how do I gauge the situation?
And what do people like?
What's relevant right now?
And what can I learn to actually get myself implemented?
Because no one sees you when you're first showing up out of from, the only thing they see is, oh, you're a gringo.
You know, you're a white boy.
You stole our land.
You see all these, you know, especially when you're seven years old and you're learning in history in Mexico that like, you know, the Santa Ana Treaty where like the U.S.
took a lot of the land from Mexico.
And I'm coming in as an American and they're like, oh, you stole our land.
It's like, dude, my parents were born here.
You know what I mean?
So there is like a, you know, a chip to want to prove yourself that, you know, you can immerse yourself in this culture.
And vice versa, when I moved back to the U.S., it was the same thing, you know, but no, anger was not a thing.
I think I had a very nice childhood with my parents.
They, They they really taught me to,
you know, don't do unto others what you don't want to be done unto yourself.
And also, if you can't say something nice, don't say nothing at all.
Nice.
You know, those are things that were very much in my entire childhood.
Yet I also know that that is a balance because if you go through the other side, then you can really withhold what you're really feeling.
And sometimes that's not good either.
That's happened to me, yeah.
Really?
I think a lot of men struggle opening up about their emotions, right?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
How do you deal with it?
Now, my fiancé's been great because I had no one to talk to before, even my own parents growing up.
I was getting bullied, I was so ashamed to even tell them.
Really, you know, and so how did that like change once you started doing it?
Did you start seeing good reactions from people?
Just over time, it just felt like a weightlift off my shoulder.
I would say psychedelics helped too, actually.
Yeah, you know, helped me realize some stuff.
But yeah, when you internalize that stuff, it can manifest into physical diseases and ailments.
It does, yeah, cancer, insomnia.
Like, I
Speaking of when you're opening up about,
like,
I did a lot of therapy about this.
So it's like, when you open up,
when you're in constant connection, there's meant to be conflict.
There's always meant to be conflict.
Why wouldn't we want to connect?
Well, because I'm going to have conflict, but then you're depriving yourself of the most important thing as a human, right?
To actually be able to have a conversation to see someone.
So if I feel like you hurt me, if I can express it,
hey, I feel hurt because of this, then hopefully the other person will understand that it's not personal.
It is a very unique experience within my own perception of what happens and how I grew up in my entire life and how I was conditioned.
That, hey, the way you move the cup like this, it really hurt me because actually it reminded me of my childhood.
It reminded me of when something was taken away from me.
And so
it has helped a lot growing up and doing therapy to understand that, like, actually, I'm going to tell you that I'm hurt because I want to connect with you.
Wow.
You know,
deep.
And that's better than just being like, oh, I'm afraid that you're going to run away from me.
So I'm not going to tell you anything.
Right.
You know, as men, you know, that's what you.
Yeah, yeah.
I think a lot of men are afraid to be judged, afraid to be seen as soft.
Yeah, look dumb, or we have to uphold a certain way of being.
And it's like, well, yeah, there's certain aspects of it, but I think we're sort of walking walking blindly down an alley and just trying to touch the walls.
Yeah.
And just trying to be like, oh, oh, this way, that way.
Anyway.
Keeping that creativity is important, man.
I remember being in school, just like, I was too scared to even ask questions to the teacher because I didn't want the classmates to see me getting like judged or whatever.
Whoa.
Really?
Yeah.
That's scary, man.
I think a lot of school these days is killing creativity, man.
Not intentionally, but just like.
I would be interested in actually seeing what is happening with kids in school.
It's It's the same system it's been since we were there.
It's just like history class and math.
But not with phones, right?
Oh, yeah.
It must be even tougher, right?
Yeah, because I was talking to my nephew about this and I was like, hey, how do you guys deal with AI?
Like,
how do teachers deal with this aspect of knowing that you could just get an answer so fast?
And it's like, oh, I guess there's programs that.
They block it, right?
I guess so.
And also kids are not allowed to have their phones in class.
That's what I've heard.
I don't know much, but.
I caught the tail end of that, yeah, because I'm 27.
yeah, some teachers would ban the phones
in class.
Do you think that's good or bad?
To ban them?
Yeah.
I think it's great.
You think it's great?
Oh, my God.
Yes.
Dude.
I mean,
okay, so when we were kids, right?
Watching TV was like a thing.
Like, don't get too close to the TV.
I think our parents had some.
I don't know if you had the same experience about like video games and things like that, where it's like, that thing's going to rot your mind.
Yeah, yeah.
And there's a certain extent where it does bring creativity and it makes you think really fast and agile on your feet.
But there's another aspect where it just brainwashes you.
It just brain, it does.
I mean, if you're a kid, I remember being a kid in Mexico and like, if everyone liked this, then I'm going to like it, right?
I don't even know if I like it, but everyone likes it and I want to be liked.
Now, if you have a phone, whatever the phone's showing you in that moment, if there's no parental controls, like it's going to want to make the kid
like certain things that they don't even know what that is, you know, and I think that that's really important to like make sure, like when I i have kids i want to make sure that they don't have phones as as long as i can hold on to that wow yeah dude yeah yeah i want them to be in nature not i mean that's how you grew up i want them to be in nature and hopefully be loved by you know a family and nature's healing man dude yeah nature's important dude i love nature yeah yeah you should go to iquitos that's a lot of nature there peru oh peru you should go you should i've heard about it actually dude you go there for so when i did 10 days every day felt like a year.
I bet.
Yeah, no phone.
No, dude.
And then you're sitting in your tambo, middle of the night.
What is that?
A tambo is like a hut.
Okay.
And it's literally all it is, is a piece of wood that covers the from rain.
And you're covered with mosquito,
what's it called?
The thing that covers for mosquitoes.
I forgot.
Is it like the traps or?
Yeah, sort of, but it, but it prevents mosquitoes from coming in.
Okay.
But there was a hole in my tambo and a bat came in.
Whoa.
And so there was a bat flying around every night in my tambo and pitch black dark.
And I'm thinking, I can't believe I put myself in this situation.
By day eight, it took a while, but by day eight, I was like, oh, I can live without my phone now.
Really?
Yeah.
Yeah.
There comes a point where like you just revert back to whatever our ancestors were feeling being in nature.
That's impressive, man.
Yeah, I'm on my phone eight hours a day.
Eight hours a day?
Isn't that crazy?
I am working, granted.
100%.
Still, it's a little concerning.
Eight hours a day.
I'm, dude, I'm by no means.
I understand some people have their needs to have a phone, I mean, or to be on the phone constantly, you know?
So people got to eat.
They got to do those things.
Yeah.
I do want to do a dopamine detox one of these days, though.
Really?
Have you seen those?
No, what is it?
You go in a dark cave, like pitch black.
You're in there for three days.
Uh-huh.
And then you walk out.
Apparently, you're just like reset.
Really?
Yeah, it's like a darkness retreat or something.
Where do you have those at?
I think they're in Arizona, actually.
If you do it,
you have to tell me how that goes.
Okay.
Yeah, because so you're going in a pitch dark room?
Yeah.
I mean,
are you fasting also?
I'd assume you are because you can't see.
So
I'm a big fan of fasting.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I haven't done a three-day one yet.
The most I've done is two days, but I intermittent fast every day.
Yeah.
It's what, 168?
Yeah.
Yeah.
You do that too?
Yeah.
I did, I did five days one time.
Whoa.
Five days.
How did that feel?
I think by the fifth day, I didn't want to eat.
You're serving that space.
You're like, oh, like, yeah, I don't want to break this.
You know, there's something really,
you start functioning differently.
Like, I think I saw this in National Geographic Chris Hemsworth was doing one, and the brain fog, right, was real.
Like, after a first few days, you did it for two days, right?
Yeah.
How did it feel after on the second day?
I felt fine.
I could have kept going.
The problem is I'm in the basketball league.
So, like, when I play while I'm fasting, it's really hard, actually.
You're a bowler.
Yeah.
Nice.
Yeah, I'd be hooping.
You play?
Yeah, I play a little bit.
Okay, I'm gonna have to play.
Oh, I did.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I'm all right i was in montreal actually a few uh a few weeks ago when i was shooting and i went to one of the actors invited me to be like hey do you play basketball and i was like yeah i play ball she's like come play with um with me and a friend's i was like okay go to the basketball court
and she is like oh we're gonna go to a different basketball court i was like why he's like oh because these aren't my friends and i looked to the people that were playing and they were really good and i was like oh no i want to play with these guys you know okay got balled out yeah
there's a 15 year old kid there that was just like a little kobe yeah He was so good.
And I'm like 35, like huffing and buffing, like dying.
It's good these days.
Yeah, man.
There's, I mean, you got the AAU leagues now.
Yeah.
They're being recruited.
But anyway, so dopamine, huh?
Dopamine, yeah.
But I do want to do a three-day fast because your body starts healing after 72 hours, can kill cancer cells, can completely reset your body.
So you must have felt amazing five days.
Oh my God.
I felt so good.
Then like try to do a 72-hour one, and I only lasted like about 60 hours.
A lot of it is mental, man.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's it's mental and for me it's a little harder because i use my brain a lot and that actually uses a lot of calories so i get hungry because i'm a chess player and i i podcast all day i got seven episodes today really and then it's so that oh so you play the chess the chess outside uh i play on the app that's just a decoration yeah um but i play an hour a day really big chess player seven podcasts today and that's seven hours of filming so i'm using my brain when you play chess you burn a lot of calories
and because you're doing so many podcasts man i mean the knowledge you're getting must be incredible.
It's immense.
Yeah.
Yeah, I'm learning a lot.
Do you get overwhelmed by it?
No.
Human memory is pretty bad, actually.
So I don't retain everything, but I try to take a little piece from every guest.
That's the thing about
maybe I'm just like a maybe I'm sounding like a religious craze nut, but I think the phone is like
not allowing me to remember things now.
Really?
Yeah.
Well, it has been proven to shorten attention span.
It makes sense.
So I wouldn't be surprised if it affects memory as well.
Yeah, because I think about like, you know,
did you ever go through a time where you knew a bunch of phone numbers?
Yes.
When I was a kid, you had to memorize it.
Yeah, my friend's numbers.
Yeah, or like maps.
Yeah, my dad used to use maps.
I was never using those, to be honest.
You didn't use maps.
Those were hard to use.
You didn't use maps?
We did, but he wouldn't handle it, Lina.
I would print it out for him, and he would follow it.
Yeah.
Yeah, I can't, what about phone numbers?
Do you remember them now?
Hell no.
Just my mom's and my fiancé's.
That's it.
But when I was a kid, I could probably name at least five.
So you better, you better remember your fiancé's.
Have to.
You never know.
Yeah.
We made it a group effort.
She knows mine too, in case anything happens.
That's good.
And we got a secret phrase
for if we're in trouble.
It's a phrase that only me and her know.
Really?
Yeah.
In case I get cloned.
Get the fuck out of here.
Now I have to know this secret phrase.
It's like, what's the phrase?
Gibberish.
It's a whole section.
It's a whole second it makes no sense man
because i get cloned crazy times we're in i do want to do ayahuasca man
if you i i know some great places man okay i know some great i'm a little scared but i think i need uh need it i think the
the last time i went was uh six months ago and i went to the peninsula yucatan and i remember going and being like man
Every time you go, you don't know where you're going to find.
Like, you're not, you know, a lot of people go and like, oh, I'm trying to find purpose and all these things.
And you're great.
You show up and you do ayahuasca and you realize ayahuasca tells you completely different.
They're like, actually, you don't need purpose.
You need something else.
Really?
So, for example,
back to back, right?
So when I was in the Peninsula Yucatan, I was like, oh, I just,
I feel like I've gotten everything I want.
What's next?
And then I go in my first ceremony of ayahuasca.
We do it.
It starts at 7 p.m.
You take it and it's pitch black.
And the thing about ayahuasca is you
like, for example, if you and I were doing ayahuasca right now,
once it kicks in, we can have our eyes open and still talk.
Really?
Yeah.
I mean, you can, I mean, you feel a little woozy, but you can still like look at nothing changes with you.
But if you close your eyes, you see everything.
Everything.
And so the reason they do it at 7 p.m.
is that whenever you open your eyes, you're still seeing everything because it's pitch black.
Oh.
So you can't run away from it.
Whatever Ayahuasca is showing you, if you do it at night, you can't run away from it.
Wow.
And so, but if you're doing it in the day, you can run away because you're like, oh, this is too intense.
I'll open my eyes.
That's good to know.
Yeah.
And so when I was doing it, one of the first things that happened was I was like, I need to find, tell me what I need to find.
And my, my, whatever my consciousness was, just fell out of my body, right?
And you fall into the ground and you go deep into the ground.
And then you realize that like, oh, the stream of consciousness that lives in this earth is home.
Like, this is all there is.
That's it.
You stop thinking about your friends, your family, your job.
You're just in a space, like
think of like a womb, you know, like, oh, this is what, this is what happens when I die.
But it's so frightening because
you feel like you're not coming back to your body.
You're like, I'm not coming back.
And the craziest thing about all of that is that
What it taught me, at least for me from a specific point, was we have no control of our lives.
Really?
We have no control.
I mean, you have control of your actions, like you're writing something down, but we have no control about what happens when we walk out.
You know, you might die right now.
You might die tomorrow.
I might die later on today.
I don't know.
Right.
But to know that
is so funny because we try so, I tried so hard to control my life, to be perfect, to be the best man, only to realize that, like, oh, actually,
I'm not.
I'm not perfect.
I'm not in control.
And there's a freedom in that.
You're like,
so when I was in there in that, it was so scary, but then when I came out of it, I couldn't stop laughing.
Really?
Couldn't stop laughing.
I was like, oh, because you get this pressure off of you.
You know,
I don't know.
I mean, I feel like now, nowadays, when I was in my 20s, all I wanted to do was to change the world.
I wanted to have meaning.
I want my life to have purpose.
I want all these things.
And as you get older, you're just like, I don't know.
I don't know.
i'm open i'm curious but i don't know that's interesting yeah and so and ayahuasca sort of is a big catalyst within that the transition sounds like an ego death right it can be i mean ego death to me i think it's impossible really yeah of course because
a little bit of ego is okay because you need to survive right so like if you have a little bit of ego you know not to step in front of a car when it's moving because it identifies you as being alive it's like yo you're alive you care about your life, right?
So don't, don't do that.
It's an instinctual thing.
So to have no ego is to be able to walk into the water and not come out and be like, I'm just going to breathe in water and die.
Interesting.
You know?
So, but yeah, reducing the ego or at least maintaining it to a point where it feels needed and loved and not shun away, then it's a really way of having a balance.
It's like, you ever heard of shadow work?
Yes.
Yeah.
What do you know about it?
I just know it's a formal like therapy, right?
It can be.
Yeah, definitely.
So like everything that you hate about yourself is your shadow.
And the more you try to hide it from people, the bigger your shadow gets.
Interesting.
The bigger it gets.
The more you try to hide that you like this and that and you're embarrassed by it and you're shamed by it, your shadow just gets bigger and bigger and bigger and bigger.
But the moment you turn to your shadow and say, hey, I love you.
I accept you.
I'm here.
I'm going to take charge.
but I'm not going to forget you.
And your shadow goes
that quick?
It can.
Okay.
I mean, you got to go to therapy also, I assume, right?
But
if you acknowledge, like, certain, I mean, we don't have to get into the details of this, but like, if there are things that you don't like about your life or yourself and you're walking around with that shame,
don't turn your back on it.
Don't don't.
Look at it.
Look at it straight and accept it.
Wow.
You know, because in the end, it's, it's you as a 10-year-old boy or, you know, as an infant.
Inner child.
Inner child.
It's your inner child just saying, I, I don't know.
You know?
I definitely had a big shadow growing up.
Really?
I've been working on it, but it's it's still
there for sure.
But it used to be huge.
What are you ashamed of?
My parents got divorced when I was young.
Felt some guilt from that.
My dad recently passed, and I wish I was closer with him.
I'm sorry about that.
There's some shame there.
Yeah.
And then just like, I pretended for so many years to be someone I wasn't growing up.
So I was like, I wish I was more of myself.
Now with podcasting, I'm just myself.
It feels amazing.
How would you, what were you trying to show the world before?
I was trying to fit in when I wasn't supposed to.
You know, I was pretending to be, trying to be popular, trying to fit in with different groups
and just trying to be a manly man or whatever.
Were you
bullied or were you a bully?
I was never the bully.
I got bullied.
But yeah, I got made fun of and stuff for sure.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
I feel you on that, man.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So I had a big shout out.
I mean, shit, I still do.
You think you still do after all these journeys?
Really?
Of course.
I mean, it's just, it's there.
You know, it's there.
And
the more you fight it, you know, the more angry it gets.
You know, the more, yeah, you just have to.
The reason why I say that it's there is because I acknowledge it.
It's like, look, it's, you know.
Well, that's the first step for people, right?
To at least acknowledge what's going on.
100%.
Some people don't even get there.
No, I mean, maybe.
I mean, I don't know.
I mean,
when I talk to people about like doing plant medicine,
the people that I know need it are the ones that say, I don't need it.
They're closed off, right?
Yeah, and they're like, no, I don't need that.
And I'm like, oh, interesting.
But also, that's my own perception.
Could be, yeah.
Yeah, that's me telling myself that whenever I don't want to do something, I need to do it.
You know, because like you were saying, right?
Like, this is the reason why you got into this.
Yeah.
Off camera, right before we started, we were saying growth is when you're uncomfortable.
That's when the most growth is.
Yeah, you got to be on your edge.
You got to be.
You always gotta you gotta you can't be too further on the edge because you don't learn anything right but you have to be right on the edge where like you just don't know if you're gonna make it yeah you're just like
and so that's what i i love about that you know i love it yeah man you said no control earlier that fascinated me so like when you say that because like i i think i live a pretty healthy life like i eat pretty healthy
is that a form of control you think though that i'm choosing to eat healthier yeah i mean but that is that's a choice right you're choosing so that's the that's what's lovely about us as humans is like we get to choose what we do.
What others do to us, we have no control over.
What others do to us.
Yeah, what the world does, we have no control over.
But don't you think you can influence your parents to treat you or talk to you differently?
Of course, but that's a choice.
So you're choosing, but through the ability to communicate, to tell your parents, hey, this is what I need from you.
Now they can choose to give it to you and they can also choose to not give it to you.
And you have no control over that.
Wow.
wow that's the thing it's like now now you're getting into a space where like oh yeah so you stop taking things personal because you're like oh you're late you're you're running into my time oh you don't appreciate my time oh and then it's like me me me me me but only to realize like actually well we don't really know what that person went through to get to this to this moment and why they were late
maybe it was something else that had nothing to do with you.
And to remove that,
then I realized like, oh, I don't,
I can't convince you to be early now.
That's your choice.
I can tell you, hey, I'd like you to be early.
But their choice is independent to their own ideas.
Wow.
That's awesome.
Yeah.
I love the way you think.
Thanks, man.
Yeah, that's super cool.
Yeah, yeah.
So, and that's why going back to like the number one movie and the number one TV show and all these things, no control over that.
That's a never-ending road, too.
No, no, no, no.
I mean, I was shooting in Montreal, right?
And I was there by myself, and I was walking down the streets.
I like to do that when I'm shooting.
I just like to walk around and just get lost and just kind of ponder on my own thoughts.
And
I realized like, oh, I see why if I had a vice, how easy it would be to jump into it.
It's just easy, like when you have an addiction or, you know, some gene that's been passed down from family member to family member.
Right.
And when you're alone.
Those are the moments that you have to rely on the choice.
You're like, oh, I choose to not do this or do that.
And obviously, you know, that's not to say that people that have addiction addiction aren't sane because obviously it's a, it's a disease.
Right.
But to those who are sort of teetering with the idea of something, to choose within oneself is the best way to honor yourself.
So if I choose to say,
okay,
I'm going to do this part for this film.
What comes after that is nothing
personal and it's not correlated to me.
And so I can enjoy the process of doing doing a job.
Interesting.
Yeah.
Yeah.
A lot of people in the public spotlight struggle with addiction.
Right.
That's a common thing.
Yeah.
I wonder why.
Yeah, there has to be something there.
I think expectations are high, right?
When you have that persona, you're trying to chase the next thing.
And then when that doesn't happen, they kind of resort to addiction of whatever it is.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's a gene, right?
Addiction.
Yeah, it's probably some genetics.
I try not to place too much emphasis on genetics.
I've had on a lot of health experts, and a lot of them are saying it's about 20% in the equation.
What's the other 80?
Environment, the way you grew up, and just your personal stuff, I guess.
So
I try not to like make excuses, even though obviously genetics plays a role.
I have the Alzheimer's gene from my parents, but I try not to think about it because then you're going to manifest it.
So like I got friends that have like the cancer gene from their parents,
but they're thinking all day about, oh, I might get cancer.
And so you sort of manifest it, don't you?
And I'm big on that.
I'm big on manifestation.
Yeah, man.
I mean, me too.
I mean, I'm big on prayer too, even though I'm not very religious, but it's, it's, it's a way to sort of communicate with something that it's faith.
That's interesting.
To have faith in something.
Cause yeah, yeah, because I got vivid memories of me praying as a kid when I used to go to church.
Oh, really?
When I had like a stomachache, I'd be like, please, God, make this go.
It's something I stopped doing, but.
Dude, it's so funny you talk about praying because I remember
my aunt was telling me this story yesterday, actually.
We were in Pico, Pico Rivera in California, and I was maybe four years old, and we were at a park.
You got good memory.
Yeah, well, I remember this because I've heard it so many times, but also I do remember this moment.
I was four years old.
We were at a park.
We're all hanging out.
All my cousins, it's probably like 10 of us.
And
we all hop in in the car.
Well, they all hop in and they leave me.
They forget about me.
My uncle's driving on the freeway and they're like, yo, where's junior at?
And my family calls you, they call me Junior.
I was like, where's Junior at?
And they turn around and they're like, oh shit, he's on the car.
So they had to turn back on the freeway.
They get back and I'm at the park, four years old, leaning against a tree with my arms like this, on my knees, praying.
Wow.
As a four-year-old, I'm praying.
And to hear that story, I was like, wow, like there's something about even childhood that I'm like,
we believe that there's something else out there.
Spirituality, God, dreams.
As a kid, you don't, sometimes you don't know the difference.
Yeah.
You're just like, oh, yeah.
So that was the first time you ever prayed?
I don't remember if that was the first time I ever prayed, but I just remember that in a moment of fear, I turned to a God.
Wow.
Yeah.
And then as a four-year-old, I turned to God.
Crazy.
Yeah.
I was like, oh, this is fascinating.
And that's not the first time that's happened where I'm like praying.
That is interesting.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I do think there's like previous lives.
I don't know if you believe in this concept, but like, you know, we've lived previous lives and there's some generational trauma and some generational memories and stuff.
Yeah.
Do you believe in old souls then?
I do.
Yeah.
Do you?
Yeah, I do.
Well, that's the thing that I heard and I had to study it because, or not study it, but just inform myself more because that's the thing that I would hear from people when I was like 15, 16.
It's like, oh, you're an old soul.
And I was like, huh, okay.
And obviously as a kid, you hear that, you think you're freaking cool.
And you're like, oh, yeah, yeah.
I'm an old soul, but it it's like, what does that even mean?
Right.
But I think you have a good point of like, you sort of
have to fix things
here in this body now
that you couldn't fix in the previous one, whatever that is, right?
Like the generational stuff that you're talking about.
Agreed.
But also, there's like a lot of generational trauma, I think, and just lineages from like
the men in our family, I think.
For sure.
That we have to fix, you know, like things that we were missing or that my dad was missing or that my great grandmother, my grandfather was missing.
That I'm like, oh yeah, my dad fixed that.
And now, oh, now I have to fix something that my dad missed.
And I'm like, oh, okay, great.
Because then obviously when I have a kid, they're probably going to have to fix something that they see in me.
They're like, oh, you know.
Agreed.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I think that's so spot on.
I saw with my dad, he got physically abused by his dad.
That probably happened to him.
So now I'm going to end that cycle with my kids.
Wow.
I mean, my dad, my dad didn't have a dad.
And so it was really exciting to see him want to be a dad because his dad was never really there.
Yeah.
You know, at a certain, I think he, I mean, he must have been like four or five years old.
And so watching him be so present with my sisters and I is something that I will forever be grateful because, you know,
he could have just followed the same repetitive thing.
Right.
You know what I mean?
But he was like, oh, I'm going to, I'm going to be there.
That's beautiful.
Yeah.
And he would always say, I'm your best friend.
Remember that?
Wow.
Yeah.
He's like, I'm your best friend.
I'm your best friend.
That's awesome.
Yeah, dude.
I know.
That's so cool that you have that relationship with your father.
Not a lot of fathers have that friendship with their kids.
Yeah, man.
You know?
And,
you know, I'm sorry to hear about your dad.
Oh, thank you.
Yeah.
A big lesson.
A lot of lessons learned from my parents.
Really?
Yeah.
Whether they meant to or not.
How's your mom?
Good.
We did not get along growing up, dude.
Yeah.
To be honest.
Yeah.
But now we do.
She watches every single episode.
Oh, good yeah she's my biggest supporter now was there was there a breakthrough within that like sort of um was it you opening up i think when i left the house and we both had time to reflect yeah you know because it's hard to like
in the moment like zoom out you know how old were you when you left the house i was in college so i was 18 19.
oh my god yeah so then we were both on our own and had some time to actually like
Feel what's going on and miss each other actually miss each other.
Yeah, yeah, I think that's the thing I mean in the Mexican mexican household you stay there until you're you know 20 30 you know so wow i i didn't move out of my parents' house i was 26
but i did have my rebel stages around 24 25 26 i barely stayed there i had friends in la and i would stay with them but there was this thing that once i left at 26 and by the time i was like 29 it sort of mended all my dynamics with my family wow yeah it did because even you know you talk about this thing of like being able to separate and really process things being alone, you know, because my sisters didn't really get to know me until
no, because even my mom would come up to me.
She'd be like, you need to tell your sisters who you are.
Whoa.
Yeah.
She's like, they don't know you.
What?
They don't know you.
You didn't grow up with them?
I did.
That was crazy.
You live in the same household, you know?
And I'm sure they knew me because they saw me, but in terms of what I felt,
it's like they need to know.
And I remember my mom saying that.
I'm like, wait, no, they do know.
And they're like, no, they don't.
Now they do.
Nice.
But that took a lot of time.
You know,
I'll go into this very briefly, but there, it almost feels like, you know, you grow up with your parents or, you know, guardians or your loved ones or whoever.
And then eventually all you want to do is become an individual, want to break out.
Like, I want to get out.
I want to be my own person.
And I want to forget about all of these things that raised me because none of these are right.
This is the new way.
And then You somehow circle back to that way of being, but in the healthier way.
You're like, oh, wow.
Yeah, actually, I am very proud of my heritage.
I am very proud of the way I was raised.
I am very proud of all of these things that at first I wanted to get away from.
100%.
Yeah, I had shame with being Asian growing up.
Really?
Yeah.
What part of Asia?
China.
No, yeah, but I was ashamed of it.
Why?
With too many white kids?
I don't know, man.
Yeah, but no, what you just said was so spot on.
It was like, I didn't even want to date an Asian girl.
Like, I was just so ashamed of the culture.
Whoa, really?
What
was what changed then?
I think,
I don't know.
It wasn't like a specific thing, but now I just embrace every culture.
Like, I love culture.
It's a big part of my life.
I eat every cuisine.
Yeah.
And there's no shame with it.
I love learning about the intricacies of every single culture now.
And your job must be one of those jobs where
it debunks any sort of preconceived notion.
of anyone.
Yeah.
Right.
Because you're literally face to face with someone, talking to them all the time, right?
Rather than like having a conversation.
Because I think even texting, right?
Texting in its own self, like you read the text based on the day you're having.
Right.
You can have a great day and you read it.
You're like, oh, and it could be like a passive aggressive text.
And you'd be like, yeah, cool.
But if you're having a shit day and you read it, you're like, you know, what happened?
And so, but when you're face to face, it's just like.
100%.
Oh, can't run away with it on podcasts for an hour.
No, dude.
Yeah.
No, but I think it was a lot of racism growing up.
So that probably played a role.
You know, kids were racist to me, Ching chong whatever like eating dogs all the typical asian stuff you know so as a kid you're very impressionable and that stuff gets to you pricks yeah what was funny dude is like when i moved to the when i moved from mexico to the us my school was 98 latino wow and i was the wet back
they were like oh wet back and i'm like
same thing when i went to the to mexico right it's like we are you we're literally the same color yeah we're literally the same people the same i speak english what are you talking about yeah so yeah but kids you know as you're saying, they're so impressionable.
Yeah, they want to be the top dog or whatever.
They want to impress.
Impress the ladies.
Yeah, yeah.
Well, you played basketball in high school.
I didn't, actually.
I was just not aggressive because my parents got divorced.
So, like, not having that father figure, I lacked a lot of confidence growing up, honestly.
So, that was a big part of it.
And basketball, you kind of need to have confidence and be aggressive.
So, I was a runner.
Oh, you're a runner?
Yeah.
Track and field?
Track and field.
Really?
What'd you run?
800, a mile, 2-mile, 5K.
Damn.
Yeah.
Good.
I was pretty good, yeah.
Nice.
You run too?
I was a shot putter.
Oh, nice.
Yeah.
So you were muscular.
I was hefty.
Nice.
I played football, so I was like a little
hefty.
Oh, so you were a cool kid then.
You were on the football team.
It's not that I was a cool kid.
It's like I had to adapt.
Yeah.
So like
I joined all the sports.
I had to.
Like I had no friends.
Like my cousin convinced my mom.
My cousin was two years older than me.
convinced my mom for me to move from because I had already started one high school because I'm from Mexico.
I was like, oh, come, come to this high school with me.
You know, I'll take care of him.
Yeah, I'll take care of him.
I go to that high school.
They move me.
I had made it like two or three friends at this school.
So now I move to a different school.
The first day I'm to that school, I go to my cousin.
And my cousin's like a junior.
I'm a freshman.
And I'm like, hey.
And my cousin looks at me and he goes,
and he just keeps walking.
And I'm like, this son of a bitch.
So then, yeah, I'm like, so then I knew no one.
So I was like, okay,
what's going on?
They're like, oh, football tryouts.
Okay, I'll join football.
Oh, basketball tryouts?
I'll try basketball.
So you never played?
You never played those sports and you just
didn't know what football was.
I was like, okay, they're doing weights and like, they're all like, oh, I'll aggro.
And I was like, yeah, I'll try this.
And so then I went to that.
I did basketball.
I did track and field.
I did swimming.
Nice.
Yeah, because, you know, I needed friends.
Wow.
I know.
So you were just athletic, luckily, so you could get in all those teams.
Dude, I was not athletic.
Oh, you weren't?
I was just, I was a great mimicker.
Okay.
I was an actor.
You know, I just knew how to
act.
Nice.
Tough.
So you think acting is kind of a natural talent?
Or?
I think we, I think we all have it.
But the difference is, can you relax in it?
Interesting.
You know, can you relax in it?
Like, for example, at the beginning of this podcast, I was very nervous.
Really?
I was very tight.
Yeah, of course.
Oh, I didn't notice.
That's called acting.
But, but
as you get warmed up and you relax, now you get into the details and the intricacies of conversation.
And so, yeah,
I think we all connect, but some people just tense up.
Yeah.
You know, I don't know what to say, but if you relax to it, you can actually show your personality a little bit.
That was definitely me.
I was tense up.
I had anxiety attacks, panic attacks.
Whoa.
Yeah, I've come a long way.
Do you do breath work?
I do.
Okay.
Wim hoff.
Yeah, wim hoff.
Love that shit.
Sometimes I'll do breath work in the middle of conversation.
People really pissed off.
Yeah.
Whoa, just to calm down.
No, just to remind myself to breathe.
Nice.
Yeah, breath is important.
Yeah, one little breath like that can shift your whole mindset.
It's crazy.
I had a great mentor, and he said, the difference between fear and excitement is a breath.
Fear and excitement.
Wow.
Yeah.
It's like two extremes.
Two extremes.
And it's all it is is a breath.
Crazy.
Just remember to breathe.
You have to do that during the ayahuasca, right?
The breath works.
Oh, my God.
Yeah, yeah.
You have to do it.
I mean, we do it all the time.
We just forget, right?
It's like, oh, shit, I've been, it's like when you're driving on the highway and you just forget that you've been driving for an hour.
I've been noticing that lately with my driving.
Yeah, I'm like, damn, I've just zoned out for 30 minutes.
That's a form of meditation.
Yeah,
I wonder what's in your mind when that happens.
It's different stuff.
I try not to think about the past too often anymore.
I used to live in the past.
And that's dangerous.
That's dangerous.
Super dangerous.
A lot of regret.
A lot of regret.
A lot of regret.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So you can't live in the past.
What about the future?
That's what I'm trying to figure out because I try to stay present as much as possible, but I think it's important to to think about the future too.
Yeah, a little bit.
A little bit, right?
A little bit.
I mean, use it as a tool.
Right.
That's the thing.
We have to use it as a tool.
Because like regret is in the past.
Anxiety is in the future.
Yeah.
And it's like
both of those things suck.
I know.
They suck.
That's why I try not to think about the future too much.
Yeah.
Because then you start getting anxiety.
It's like, damn.
No, man.
Like, I'll think about sometimes a way like marriage and kids and all these things.
And I'm like, oh, I'm getting anxious.
I was like, why am I getting anxious off of love?
Right.
Or the idea idea of that.
I was like, oh, no, it's because I'd like to have kids before my parents die.
I'd like to see my parents see me get married.
Just random shit.
Then I'm like, why am I even putting myself so much stress on that instead of, as you said, being present?
And I see that with a lot of women because they're on a clock, you know, to have kids and they rush these marriages and relationships.
Yeah.
And they got anxiety about it.
I know.
Are you feeling pressure to get married?
No, I'm at a perfect pace.
I've been with Arielle for seven years.
We're getting married next year.
Oh, okay.
And we've already talked about kids around 30.
So
no pressure.
You getting married here?
Yeah, we met in Jersey.
Oh, you're from Jersey?
Jersey, yeah.
Oh, okay.
And that's where the wedding's going to take.
Garden State, yeah.
You've been out there?
I've been to, yeah, I've been to, I mean, I've been to New York and I've been to Jersey, but I don't know Jersey as much as I think I should.
Okay.
It's called The Garden State.
Check it out.
Garden State.
Yeah.
There's a movie called The Garden State.
Like Nature.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
A lot of good nature there.
Okay.
Yeah.
But yeah, man, I'm pumped, but I see it every day with people.
They're stressing about relationships.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's, I mean, especially because you have so much immediate contact.
Like what happened, remember when people, I mean, I don't know if you remember, but when you would read about these like letters that were sent and it would take two weeks for a lover to get a letter.
Yeah.
Right.
And you're like, the breath within that, now you can get it in 30 seconds.
Yeah.
Super quick.
And
the accessibility of that is.
crazy.
It's almost too easy now.
It's too easy.
Got these dating apps.
And there's no way to actually really ferment or build a dynamic with someone because the moment they feel, oh, you're not right for me, you move forward.
You move past.
I mean, I assume, or I imagine with you and your fiancé, like there's a moment in your dynamic where you sort of go, I'm not moving from here.
I'm done.
Right?
Yeah.
I don't know.
How long did it take for you to sort of have that realization of like.
Yeah, I think sooner than most.
But I know what you mean, where it's like, this is for life.
Yeah, that moment.
I would say a couple years.
And that's beautiful.
You know, and I think I wish people would
have the patience to get to that point.
Right.
Because it's like,
excuse me.
You know, it's like, oh, we're not Uber Eats.
Yeah, I got friends with more relationships than they can even count on their hands.
It's crazy to me.
You know, but that's a normal thing in the city culture these days, especially L.A.
and Miami, just hopping on to to the next thing.
Hopping on to the next thing.
Yeah.
Oh, man.
Got to go to Mexico.
Yeah.
How's it dating out there?
I remember growing up in Mexico that you could be someone's girlfriend or boyfriend and not have to kiss.
Whoa.
Yeah.
Like it would be, it was, it was even more normal to be like, I like you.
Do you want you my girlfriend?
They'd be like, yeah, okay.
And you haven't, you're barely holding hands.
Really?
That's interesting.
It was a very, it was a very reversal thing.
So then when you come here and like women are grinding on you,
you're like, yo, like, if you go to Mexico, I mean, I'm sure there's areas that's, that's different, but when I grew up in Mexico, everyone danced in a circle, right?
Yeah.
And then you go to L.A.
or La Puente where I was, and you go to a party and the girls are just like backing it up on dudes.
And I'm like, that's, I'm so ashamed.
And also, I'm, I don't feel capable of.
impressing a woman if she backs up on me.
Hell no.
I'm 14 years old.
Like,
stay away, please.
Yeah.
That's a turnoff for me.
If a woman were to do that to me, I'd be turned off.
Good.
I mean, your fiancé would like that a lot.
Yeah.
Well, no, even like before that, because that happened to me before I started dating her, and I would just like, you know, I'm about that spiritual connection with my woman.
Yeah, me too, man.
Yeah, that comes first.
The intimacy.
You want to be with your best friend.
Yeah, 100%.
Yeah, that's the beauty of it.
Like being with someone who fully sees you, fully accepts you.
No matter how good or bad you can be, as long as you obviously don't hurt them physically.
yeah soulmate yeah a soulmate man yeah big on that dude well man it's been fun i can't wait to uh do ayahuasca with you one day dude seriously i let me i have your number yeah we'll talk dude uh anything else you want to close off with here no thanks for having me thanks for coming on man i can't wait to see your acting journey as well play out thanks brother appreciate it i'll be watching thanks for watching guys check out his uh instagram below in the description and i'll see you next time