The $100K Tax Mistake Most Content Creators Make | Daniel Mac DSH #1038

I'm sure with the way you do your content, you might be able to write it off, anyways.

Yeah, I do.

Yeah.

Everything but the BMW is written off because I film with them so much and it's part of my brand.

I'd say it's a slippery slope.

Like my CPA was a little more conservative.

She was like, for you, you can do it because you're a car creator.

Good luck if you're like just a regular small business owner trying to write off like a Lamborghini event or the IRS is going to be like, no.

I know people that try to write off their watches.

I'm like, dude.

Yeah, yeah, exactly.

All right, guys, Daniel Mack here today.

Thanks for coming on, man.

What's up, man?

Thanks for having me.

It's cool to have another fellow podcaster on.

Yes, sir.

Very cool, dude.

Yeah, you started the show recently, right?

Yeah, yeah, within like the last year or so, but it's not to your scale, I'd say, for sure.

Yeah, you're more picky with your guests, I know.

Yeah, it's just periodic, yeah.

It's like, ah, you know, this month, I travel a lot.

So, yeah.

What made you branch off?

Because your specialty was short form before that, right?

Yeah, totally.

So, what made you want to branch off into more long-form stuff?

I mean, I think, like, obviously, I asked people what they do for a living, short little clips that are like a minute long, usually in between a light cycle on Rodeo Drive.

So I really like wanted to dive into like how people become wealthy and they like more like a longer format, essentially, because a lot of people are wanting that.

Right.

And it makes complete sense, I feel like, as compared to like, oh, I got rich with like these quick little things.

Like you can't really get into the nitty-gritty with it unless you're like doing a long, long interview.

Yeah, because you have one question and then the video's over.

Yeah, yeah.

And literally, like I said, like on this light cycles on Rodeo, like I have like 40 seconds.

I'm like, you would literally go to the traffic light?

Yeah, yeah.

Like the main, like, there's a main for people that don't live in Los Angeles.

There's like the main like area of Rodeo, obviously.

And like, that's where all the rich people are.

And I do it in between like the major light.

Wow.

And it's almost a minute.

I'm like, damn, if it was a little longer, maybe I'd be able to monetize better on TikTok.

But what percentage of people actually answer the question versus just drive off?

Most people do.

Like at the beginning, a lot of people were confused before people started asking people what they do.

Like now, even a lot of people, they'll be like, oh, you got me on Rodeo.

I'm like, that wasn't me.

It's like, it's like become like a whole thing.

But I'd say like

90% of people answer the question and are very friendly.

Cause on this Rodeo Drive area, like they want to show off.

They're in a Ferrari, windows down.

But like 1% of the time, people yell at me.

Really?

They scream and get super pissed off.

Yeah.

They're probably like super private people, I'd assume.

Yeah.

They don't want views.

I'd say, and I'd be like, I wouldn't bother them, but they're on this strip, which is like the show-off strip.

So I don't go to people at like a grocery store and bother them.

I do it like in an area like with their windows down, like on a Ferrari.

Like I'm like, it's not.

Yeah.

Has someone ever told you to take the video down all the time yeah really although if people are friendly on site and they're just like oh please don't film me I'm like oh sure and I delete it right then and there but if they're like really rude and by the way those are great clips like I used to hate it but now I'm like oh yeah keep yelling at me I'm like okay like screw you like if you're gonna be a huge dick yeah it's wild that people could get that triggered so easily yeah yeah yeah I mean like it's not like I'm I try to be as professional and friendly as possible and it's just like hey man you have a cool car and yeah but some people get angry yeah what was the most what have been the most common job professions you've seen from these people driving luxury supercars?

So I'd say the number one most common thing that all these wealthy people have is that they own real estate.

Almost 99% of people in these Ferraris that I interview own real estate.

And 90% of them probably own their own business.

So that's like where you get like the upper echelon of like Bugatti owners.

Like there's a cap on how much you can obviously make when you're working for someone else.

I would say about a third of people I interview still do have like nine to five jobs, but they're usually in tech,

law, or

engineering.

And those are kind of like the main like step, mostly STEM things.

But then there's also some spin-off careers that are pretty interesting, like plumbing.

There's a lot of plumbers out there that make a lot of money.

Really?

Like a lot of the trade school stuff, like electricians.

And then I see a lot of people that do consulting and stuff like that.

Damn, plumbers are driving supercars?

Plumbers are driving supercars.

Yeah.

Sometimes crazy supercars.

It's like a very in-demand industry that I think a lot of people don't realize can make you a lot of money.

I guess if you think about it, the margins are really good on plumbing.

Yeah, yeah.

It's a dying thing, too, right now.

Like there's like a plumbing shortage.

Like there's all these old people are dying, all the boomers, basically.

And then after COVID, a lot of them didn't go back to work.

So right now, like if you want to be a trade school person, there's like a huge gap of young people that need to fill it.

I could see that because our generation is not as hands-on as boomers.

Yeah, yeah, exactly.

We're like on our phones and stuff.

It's going to be like a $200,000 job here.

It's like the new thing, basically.

200K a year is pretty good.

Yeah, yeah.

People are making like one, like already people are making like $150,000 if you want to be like a plumber.

Yeah.

I mean, all they're really doing is their time because they don't need to buy that much equipment for plumbing.

It's super profitable as like a business if you own like a plumbing company.

And a lot of the times these people will own plumbing companies too.

Like they'll be plumbers, make their own thing, and then they are making like millions of dollars a year.

I might have to invest in one.

Sometimes it's the unsexy businesses.

Yeah, totally.

Yeah, totally.

I mean, that's where I get a lot of wealthy people is like, they are the ones that make like the light filaments and like a thing or like something that's like a small little part like this little screw right here.

And they're the billionaires that make crazy money.

Have any of the interviews really stuck out to you, inspired you in a certain type of way?

Yeah, I mean, I've gotten a lot of people that just have like very unique, I think like the biggest thing I'd say is you can make money doing pretty much anything.

Like I have people that make millions of dollars like selling like ice to companies and you're like, oh, someone's got to do it.

So I'd say like it's kind of interesting because you, you know, you think that there's like the main few things that you have to do to make money, but really you can make a lot of money doing pretty much anything that you set your mind to.

Right.

And the more niche is kind of the more money if you're able to capitalize that on that industry.

Yeah.

I mean, you really can look at how you're making money.

Yeah.

How they make money.

Exactly.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Exactly.

It's like a, I try to explain it to people that are older.

I'm like, yeah, I asked people what they do for a living for a living.

And it's like a very like post-COVID Gen Z job.

Yeah.

And now I'm asking you how you make a living.

Yeah.

It's like a loop.

Yeah, yeah, exactly.

That's funny, funny man yeah do you have plans to start other businesses though uh yeah i'd say you know i people ask me for like my master plan and i wish i kind of had something you know more

i'd be doing it right now if i if i had that on site but yeah i think um diversifying is something that like content creators have to do uh I think people get a little too complacent that are in the content sphere and then they just kind of fizzle out.

And obviously, I can't ask people what they do for a living forever.

And I'm surprised it's been going on for five years almost now.

It's kind of insane.

But yeah, like I do like yacht content.

I do like mansion tours, like cribs style videos, like whatever I can do to kind of like make my career as long as possible because I know it's not going to last forever.

That's cool to see you have that mindset and adapt because there are a lot of people copying you now, right?

Oh, yeah, there's millions.

I see random ones every day.

It's kind of like a sub-genre now.

Like there's some other people that do like other types of man on the street.

Like how much money, like that kind of genre.

But yeah, they're everywhere.

So that's why I started showing my face a little more in videos.

At the beginning, I didn't show my face for like a full year.

I remember that.

Yeah, like I was just like not a camp.

I just accidentally blew up by doing it.

So yeah, like my first video for a whole year, people didn't even know what I looked like.

I was like, I don't want to have my face.

Were you just shy or insecure at the time?

Yeah, yeah.

Like I just didn't want to, I just wasn't into content.

Like my first video I posted on TikTok, it got 50 million views.

Holy cow.

It's zero followers.

First one.

First one ever.

Yeah.

And then, because I wouldn't have stuck with it.

I just had a funny concept.

I'm like, let me ask them what they do.

It's kind of funny and kind of interesting.

And then my second video got like 50 million views again.

Damn.

And then my third video got like 70 million views or something around there.

So then I got a million followers within a week on TikTok, like within like six days.

Crazy.

And I was like, fuck.

And people are like, yo, this guy kind of sounds like you.

That's me.

Yeah.

So yeah, it was completely random.

And it took me about a year to be able to be like comfortable in front of the camera.

And also to like.

take like claim of this trend essentially be like I'm the one that started it it's such a simple idea but you really broke the mold because most people don't talk about finances openly.

Yeah, exactly.

It's more so of an American thing.

I've tried to do this, obviously, in like England and stuff, and they're very, you know, it's not as flashy, especially if you go to like Miami, then you get even more flashy, but

it really depends on where you're at.

And some people are more than willing to, but it's kind of taboo for some people.

And I think it's kind of a, you know, it's a mix.

Yeah.

What about Vegas?

Have you hit that yet?

Oh, yeah, yeah.

I'm in Vegas and Miami a lot of the times.

And Vegas is kind of the same vibe where people are super flashy and like to show off.

Yeah, that's where I live at.

Okay.

Yeah.

I see people going to like the strip and doing interviews and just ask people your question yeah exactly yeah the strip is a good spot for it and there's a lot of there's a big car scene in vegas um but then for example like miami is where people are showing off but like you go up a little north boca raton like you have people that are a lot more like quiet money like older money right yeah older money like it's like a money talks wealth whispers kind of situation with like yacht owners out there yeah very hard to actually crack a Bugatti owner and have them actually give me a real answer.

And that's kind of like yacht owners too.

They probably own yachts too.

Those Bugatti owners are secretive.

They're very secretive.

Yeah.

Like it's hard for me to get a video with a Konizag Bugatti or like Pagani owner that gives me a legit answer that's like, here's how I made my money.

Normally they're like joking around and they're like, oh, like I, you know, don't do much.

And I'm like, literally tell me what you do.

Yeah, because I feel like if you're dropping millions on a car, you want to hold that information to yourself, probably.

Yeah.

I mean, well, I'm sure a lot of them are in trouble with the IRS.

They don't like, I've like definitely had some sketchy incidents with like supercar owners where they are not giving me enough.

And I'm like, yo, like, what do you do?

And they're like, oh, are you filming?

What's going on?

So I've gotten some people in trouble.

Yeah.

Have you ever caught someone renting a car and they were trying to act like they owned it?

Oh, all the time.

Yeah.

I can tell immediately.

I'm like friends with half the rental car people.

So in Miami, if somebody's in a Lamborghini Hurricane, they're renting it.

And in LA, if they're in like a Lamborghini Uris with like a group of people or like a G-Wagon with like four people, rental.

Wow.

It's pretty common.

Like those are the rental cars.

And then also you get like your classic Lamborghini Huracan anywhere with a group of guys.

Yeah.

Classic giveaway.

Yeah, I'm sure because you've interviewed thousands of people, you could kind of pick it out at this point.

Yeah, yeah.

There's like the classic rental cars, and everyone in the car scene knows it too, but it's funny when they try to pass it off as their own because like I can tell immediately.

I'm like, I literally have driven this car that you're driving.

Like, that's not yours.

How's your car collection looking these days?

Oh, it's getting up there.

I got a Portuguese T4, which is awesome.

I wrapped it in a pink pig livery.

It's like a classic livery.

And then I have a just got a manual BMW 87.

Let's go.

So that's really cool.

It's like the lowest mileage E30 is the brand in the country, like 30,000 miles.

And then I have a Audi RSQ-8.

Okay.

They call it the

well, I'd say it's a Lamborghini Uris without a body kit for $100,000.

Because it's the same engine.

See, I like that because I was looking at Urus's, but they weren't 6,000 pounds, first of all.

So

that's why I did it too.

So yours is over 6,000.

Yeah, I did it on like December 30, 20th or something.

That's what I call my G-Wagon.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, the RSQ-8 is under the, it qualifies, and

same exact car for $150,000 less.

Wow.

It's same quality and everything.

I think it's better quality.

Yeah.

It's just like you're paying the Lamborghini tax.

Same thing with an, like, I don't know if you're much of a car, but getting into it.

Yeah, the Audi R8 is the same car as a Lamborghini Hurricane, same engine.

It's just you're not paying $100,000 for a Lamborghini badge, basically.

Wow.

It's that's fascinating, man.

I used to love Teslas.

How do you feel about those?

That's interesting.

I had a Tesla.

I just got rid of it about a year ago, or six months ago.

Okay, I'll say like the car scene, people hate Teslas.

They're like shit on all the time.

But I'd say they're good cars if you're commuting within a city and you live at home and have a charger.

And if you don't, they suck.

Like I had mine and I sold it because I would have to, I'd come home from a trip and it'd be dead and then I had to tow it.

And it was a whole process and I had to go charge it.

Like it was just such a pain in the ass and you have such range anxiety

that having like a real gas car, I'm so glad I'll never go back to it.

Yeah, I'm getting rid of mine, man, because just for road trips, you got to charge two to three times.

Yeah, yeah.

It only makes sense if you have like a family in a city and you're not taking it out and about and you have like a car you can take like your family in on like a long trip.

Yeah, I was in a cyber truck last night, but yeah, I wasn't too impressed.

Yeah, I think they're, I mean, I think cybertrucks get a lot of hate.

Like, I think it's kind of like the DeLorean of like now,

and I think it's easy to shit on because it's kind of wild, but I just wouldn't buy, I wouldn't own one because it's not practical

But they're interesting.

I think they I definitely think Tesla gets overhated But then again, I sold mine, so yeah, well, just the I'm speaking from my own experience like the quality like I'll have shit like break inside the car all the time come out of the socket the build quality is terrible I mean Elon rushed everything out like the cyber truck is on like had like 30 different reiterations and recalls and all recalls every month yeah yeah it's definitely a thing so I feel like everyone kind of knows what they're getting into when you buy a cyber truck right now, but I would not buy one.

They are cool looking, though, I'd say.

Yeah, the price did tank.

How's the price holding up on other brands?

Well, that's another thing, too.

I bought my Carvona.

I bought my Tesla at the worst time in 2021 because I just needed a car.

And I spent $50,000 on it.

And I just sold mine for $20,000

after two years.

50%, more than 50% depreciation in two years is crazy.

All the EVs are like that, though.

They're all good.

Like the Mercedes-EQS is probably the worst one.

I think they were like $130,000.

Now they're going for like 30,000.

What?

It's like the worst in the industry, but don't quote me on that, but it's something similar.

And the like

Audis don't do great with depreciation.

Porsches are the best.

I bought my Porsche for $150,000 before tax, and I could sell it right now for $170,000.

Wow, so it went up.

Yeah, like, and I bought it.

I got lucky because I bought it from a dealer.

I got like a good deal, but like Porsche's will lose almost, you can sell them like 10 years later for like around the same price.

Holy crap.

It depends on the model, but yeah.

Are any of them above 6,000 pounds?

No, no, I don't think so.

Yeah, so that, you know, that'd be nice.

But if you want a good car that won't depreciate, that holds their value the best, Porsche.

Without a doubt, and they don't break.

Yeah.

I'm sure with the way you do your content, you might be able to write it off anyways.

Yeah, I do.

Yeah.

I write off my, everything but the BMW is written off because I film with them so much and it's part of my brand.

Right.

That's smart.

I mean, I'd say it's a slippery slope.

Like my cpa was who's a little more conservative she was like for you you can do it because you're a car creator yeah but if it's not six thousand pounds good luck if you're like just uh a regular small business owner trying to write off like a lamborghini eventador like irs is gonna be like no yeah i know people that try to write off their watches i'm like dude yeah yeah exactly

yeah i know people that do it too one of my old roommates started doing that yeah he like i'm like he's going to get if you're getting like suits i think to a point they say it's like ordinary and necessary yeah to get a maybe a couple suits yeah yeah that makes sense But a Rolex is not ordinary and necessary unless you're like the king of France or something like that.

Yeah.

Yeah, there's some risky write-offs, man.

Yeah, people get crazy with it.

I mean, like, I think you can be pretty, like,

you know, again, not to guess, not to, I don't want to dive too much into tax stuff.

I don't know who's listening in the IRS, but I make it, I'm pretty conservative with what I write off.

Like, it has to make sense.

I'm not writing off like

my mansion.

Well,

that's another thing, actually.

I don't do that, but you know, you can write off.

off.

I write off a certain

office and

walking into right now the backyard, because if you have events, like networking events and stuff.

Like, I was just at a Type.

Ty Lopez.

Oh, how was that?

I almost went to that.

Oh, yeah.

It was actually way cool.

I was doing like a mansion tour there.

And I don't know.

I love him, but I thought it was going to be more of like a crowd that's...

What's the word I'm looking for?

High-ender.

Yeah, like guru crowd.

Like cringe a little bit.

But everyone was kind of sick.

It was a fire party.

He seemed selective with that one.

Yeah, no, it was actually good.

And I think it makes sense because he really is writing off.

Like, he's whatever he's doing is probably by the book.

Yeah.

But exactly, he throws these mansion parties every month.

He's doing a Halloween one.

And he's making a lot of money being able to write off his $100 million mansion.

Right.

So, yeah, I saw he made a video that he's renting it, but he's figuring out ways to write off.

Yeah.

And he'll literally say that in videos.

Like, I am using this to write off.

Like, he clearly knows what he's doing.

But some people get a little sketchy with the write-offs in L.A.

Like, they're like, let me write off my whole thing and just hang out there.

Yeah, Yeah, I'm good.

I know the IRS is watching people like us.

Yeah, I know, exactly.

I'm like definitely a braider of them.

I pay my taxes like on time in full.

I'm like, dad, they'd love to make a case out of someone with millions of followers.

Oh, for sure.

Yeah, exactly.

Yeah, you'd be like the paraded around, like, don't do this.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Some of the OnlyFans girls that I've filmed with are,

it's crazy how little they know about taxes.

They're like, I'm like, oh, so are you getting, like, do you save up all your money?

Obviously, you know, you have a CPA.

And they're like, what's a CPA?

And I'm like, how much money are you making?

And they're like, millions of dollars.

And I'm like, that's crazy.

You're screwed.

Like, do you know you have to be dead?

Half of that.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Do you get a lot of heat for that?

Because I have them on the show and like, they get some hate, man.

Oh, for sure.

I did a lot more videos back in the day.

Like, right.

Now I don't really post videos for the most part where I interview OnlyFans people because it kind of had an effect on my brand, I think, a little bit.

And I totally respect like their industry.

Like, I don't give a fuck.

You would lose the sponsors, though, right?

Yeah.

Well, more so.

Like, I wouldn't know about it because somebody didn't say, like, hey, like, I'm not doing this thing with you.

But I can't be doing like brand deals with Amazon if I'm having like

OnlyFan people on all the time.

Not like I don't respect their industry or think it's interesting.

I was getting into like the nitty-gritty financials with them and doing like vice-style interviews.

But yeah, it just is what it is as far as advertisers.

I don't make the rules there.

I'm the same way.

I think it's interesting.

It's a totally different life than me.

I'm in a relationship, but it does get views at the end of the day.

Oh, for sure, yeah.

Like, I interviewed like Riley Reid and a couple other people, like Skybree when they were coming up and I got banned from Snapchat for doing Riley Reid.

Yeah, and it was very professional, but obviously it was, you know, some of the stuff was pretty like

not PG-13.

But it was bleeped out.

It's mostly me just asking like specifics of financials of like how much you get paid for this scene or that.

But obviously, you know, can't dive into that stuff too much.

So I kind of separated myself from that about.

almost two years ago.

And I'll still run into people that are driving Ferraris that are 19.

And I'm like, okay, obviously, either daddy's money or you do OnlyFans.

So there's no escaping that in Los Angeles.

But as far as like making a dedicated video, I tone it down a little bit there.

That makes sense.

How's the money on Snap?

Is it still decent?

Yeah.

It's dying, though, compared to what it used to be in the heyday of like 2021.

That used to be like my primary, primary income source.

And it got really saturated really quickly.

And now I still do like weekly episodes on like, you know, there's two ways to make money.

Obviously, there's the show and then there's the posting 100 frames a day.

I can't do that, man.

That shit's crazy.

I'm verified and I could do that, but it's so time consuming.

I mean, I see people, like, I won't name any names, but like, I've gone and hung around people that do that as their main gig.

And holy shit, like, you have no life.

No life.

It's also, like, it feels like it's, like, not healthy at all.

Like, I could see you doing it for like a couple months, but, like,

long term.

Yeah, I might, um, I might try it out like low, like low-key, like 30, 40 frames a day, which is still crazy.

But some of these people are doing like 200 frames a day.

Like, the Dough Brooks out there, they're filming like 200, and like then they come up with their thumbnail, and it's a clickbait thumbnail at the end, and they make money.

Like, they print money.

Yeah, it's, it's a whole nother world.

And then you got the TikTok livers.

Oh, yeah, that's a live all the time.

That's crazy.

Oh, no.

Jason Nash and a few others.

Oh, yeah.

Well, that's, yeah.

That's a whole nother story.

That's, yeah, that's insane.

People, I call it, it's like e-bagging.

Yeah.

No shade on Jason Nash.

He's a nice guy, actually.

But it is.

But I feel like they'd admit that, too.

Yeah, I just can't see myself asking for money like that.

Yeah, I just, I don't even think, how is it pro like?

I don't don't understand some of these people that have 40 million followers are doing it every week and i'm like is this to build a fan base or is this to make serious money right do you know any insights on that like i don't know i have no idea i just know there's some people actually doing millions off it oh really okay

that just seems like it would ruin your life too yeah it seems kind of cringe i don't know i'd rather just make i want if i'm making money i want the people watching to like you know not lose anything Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I mean, yeah, you're basically asking for a handout.

I want them to gain knowledge or something.

Yeah.

I want it to be a win-win.

I think it just, yeah, the people that go to like Times Square and they're like shirtless and like doing weird things.

I think, you know, the NPC people, that shit's crazy.

That's some like late-stage capitalism.

Like,

I don't even know, like, scary gen alpha stuff.

Yeah.

You spent a day with Jack Doherty, right?

Yeah.

Was that before the car crash or after?

Yeah, it's funny timing because I've hosted the video of his collection tour, like a mansion tour, um, after the crash happened.

And every comment, it went crazy because every comment's like, all right, the car was still intact.

Yeah, it was still intact.

Yeah.

He's an interesting dude.

He,

I mean, I, I mean, he knows he's controversial.

Like, I was like, I'm going to interview like the tagline is like most controversial man on the internet or something like that.

And he's a genius when it comes to making content on his own page where he recycles it and basically like acts like he's filming himself.

Like he's good at like being a Jake Paul essentially and basically self-deprecating himself to make money.

So he knows what he's doing.

Like he's getting a rise out of people and he's been doing that since he's been like eight years old.

old But I just find it interesting how good he at is at basically like getting hate But it's not something that can last forever like what's the word I'm looking for?

It's not something that's sustainable long term and he knows that like when I was interviewing him I'm like what do you like it's kind of like in a like a tour for him of like hey like I'm trying to have people respect me now, but you can only you have to go all in on that.

It's like the Suicide Forrest thing with Logan Paul.

Yeah, yeah, Logan.

Like after that, he kind of was like on his like new route of like, hey, like, respect me.

Like, I'm not going to do bullshit.

I think Jack's getting to that point where he's cursed.

He's like reaching that peak where he has all the views.

Everyone hates him.

And he needs to now switch it into, all right, I'm going to calm down.

I'm going to be liked.

And it's going to take a couple years.

Yeah, he's got to channel that negative energy into positive, right?

Yeah.

There's been a few people that have been able to pull it off.

Yeah.

Jake Paul, Bad Baby.

Oh, yeah.

Makes a lot of money.

Lil Tay did not pull it off.

She just keeps getting hate.

Yeah.

Yes.

It doesn't last forever.

Like, people will eventually.

i mean yeah jake paul is a rare yeah jake and look and paul rare those two are the best examples i could think of and bad baby yeah yeah i mean she made a lot it's interesting because people think he's stupid and he's not stupid at all like he is a genius at being viral and uh i just not the best kind of uh i mean it must be draining basically it has to be yeah having people i can tell he does it for views i don't think like was he actually like that off camera uh He was really nice, honestly.

Like, he was pretty friendly.

You know, I did show up to his place to do an interview, and he like was rolling out of bed and was like, I waited in the lot, in his like, in his like, basically living room for like an hour.

So I was like, okay, that's kind of weird.

And it was like 1 p.m.

So I was like, okay, this dude just woke up.

But it was weird because the tone of the interview is sad.

Like, he was like depressed that people were hating on him so much.

And I'm like, oh, maybe this is his new leaf to turn around.

And then like the next week, he's like doing the whole thing where he crashes his car and telling people to film.

And I'm like, dude, like, you're not helping yourself here.

But yeah, he was friendly.

I was glad that he took the interview and whatnot.

I think he knew, obviously, I was going to be like somewhat critical of him, but I think the interview was pretty like financially.

And I was just kind of getting to the bottom of like, yo, like, you have people hate on you.

Like, what is that like?

And he was just kind of a little sad about it, honestly.

Yeah.

Yeah.

He's coming on this show soon, actually.

But at the end of the day, he's human.

Like, obviously, he sees the comments and stuff.

And he feels it.

It's got to run a toll on him, for sure.

For sure.

It would fuck me up.

Yeah.

I've gotten a lot better.

I used to really let hate get to me, but now I'm like, me too.

Yeah.

Pretty hard-shelled.

yeah exactly yeah you have to be yeah if you don't you wouldn't make it i guess in the industry i mean i was getting roasted last week for an interview i did oh yeah it didn't really affect me yeah i i guess i have a lighter i get it a little easier than most creators because most of my stuff is the like i'm interviewing obviously you're interviewing people too but like most of my camera is on the other person pob and i'll just lash myself here and there so it's easier to latch on to like hating someone if like they're on screen more i'm kind of like a spotless lamb sometimes as far as like oh i didn't say it they're the ones saying i'm interviewing them So I think I get off a little easier, but still, people, you know, over four years of doing this, people fucking roast me.

They'll find a way.

Yeah, exactly.

But yeah, I like it too now.

I'm like, yeah, more engagement.

Yeah, we'll see if Jack can turn it around.

What about Neon?

You think he could turn it around?

I think Neon's a little better at, well, I don't know.

You know, him and I asked him about it, they have beef too.

Oh, they do.

I don't know if it was fake, though.

I was like, is this real?

You can never tell with that stuff.

Yeah, I don't know because at the hard rock, they both got into a scuffle, and that was a whole thing.

But I think Neon, I haven't met him.

He's supposed to to go on my car rally last year, and he ended up bailing last minute.

So I was like, Does he have a car?

Yeah, he has a bunch of crazy cars.

Him and his girlfriend, Sam Frank, I'm friends with.

I don't know if their relationship was legit.

They enough, it was fake.

Okay, that makes sense.

Yeah, like Neon's.

Yeah.

Neon's not like America's top model.

But yeah, yeah.

I think a lot of that stuff's fake.

Although, you know what isn't fake is the

he did a video with Rick, what's his name?

Rick Flair.

Not Rick Flair.

He's a guy that You can cut some of this if you, but he's...

It starts with an R.

Rick, no.

He's a white guy that raps.

He has like grills or sharp teeth.

Riffraff.

Riff Raff, yes.

He did a video with Riff Raff where he's playing him in basketball, but obviously he's in on it.

We're like, oh, I challenge you to do a one-on-one like for your Rolex.

Jack Doherty was telling me this.

And he basically was under the assumption probably that it was all going to be fake, but Riff Raff thought it was legit.

So they were playing like a pickup game and he just like fucking dunking on him and shit.

And Rip Rap at the end is like, yo, like, you owe me a fucking watch.

That's hilarious.

It was a whole thing.

He didn't even know.

I mean, if you're going to fake it, tell him before.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

No, he was like, I'm not faking shit.

Yeah.

Basketball is no joke for me.

If you're challenging me into basketball, we're playing for something.

Yeah, yeah.

So I think he didn't get the memo.

That's hilarious, bro.

Neon's actually decent.

I saw him shoot around a little bit.

Oh, okay.

Did you play any sports?

I did, like, tennis.

I did track and cross-country.

So

you did?

What was your event?

I did two mile, one mile.

I was a miler.

okay what was your best time it's down there 437.

okay yeah yeah okay nothing crazy that's pretty good i mean like i told them not people that don't run and they're like oh my god but people that are crazy runners what was your time 440 so okay all right so we were like 800 was my event oh nice i would do the mile too okay yeah 800 was my splits in the 800 were the same as my mile like i reached max speed at that point yeah you ran a two 220 800 or uh yeah my 800 was whatever my mile split was like could not go faster yeah i was more of a two two-mile.

What was your two-mile?

I forget, honestly.

About 10.

Yeah, it was something around there.

I should know, but it was so long ago.

I remember my mile for sure.

It was like double my mile out of like 30, 40 seconds or something like that.

Nice.

I attribute a lot of my mindset to running.

Yeah.

Long distance running.

It's a fuck.

I don't even know how the fuck I did it back then.

I cannot do it now.

Psycho.

Yeah.

I don't know how.

I go on a 10-minute run now, and I'm like, I'm done.

Yeah, yeah.

No, I'm

trying to get myself to run more.

I feel like it's like better for my mental health.

And I'm like, fuck, like, this sucks.

It is good.

I just ran in the, the Nelk Boys had a 5K like a week ago in Vegas.

Oh, no way.

And I hadn't run since high school.

Oh, wow.

I ran it.

I've done a couple videos with some of those guys.

They're crazy.

Steve will do it.

I did a Ferrari giveaway with him.

Oh, wow.

He was high as fuck.

You gave away a Ferrari?

No, I was getting paid by a company to essentially promo it.

And it was like their Ferrari that we're giving away.

It ended up kind of being like a sketchy company, I think, maybe.

I don't know.

I think I saw this.

I think somebody got it, though.

Someone in LA got it, right?

Yeah, so I think it was legit there, but it was just the whole car.

I don't really do much of those car giveaway things anymore, unless it's legit.

A lot of liability, probably.

For sure, yeah.

But Steve will do it.

Hilarious, dude.

Yeah, he is funny, man.

I hope to see him back on YouTube eventually, honestly.

Oh, yeah.

He's like banned probably.

Not banned on YouTube.

They even feature him.

I think Milk gets banned too.

Wow.

If they even have him in the background, they'll be like striked and give him away.

So if you had him on your channel, you think they'd take it down?

Well, I put him in a short form video, but I think it's more so for them, like, because he's associated with their brand.

I feel like anyone could interview them and it'd be fine yeah but yeah that whole stuff's kind of crazy like having they had trump on and they got like he's like it's not going to be banned it's not going to be taken down and it gets taken down like yeah it had 10 million views too yeah that's crazy to me i'm like regardless of like who you support um

it's just an interview yeah it's just an interview like i interview both sides yeah yeah exactly but i clearly see they suppress one side oh well yeah it's clearly not even uh not even up to for debate yeah certain topics they a hundred percent like will not push yeah like i would would interview, like, I did a video with Joe Biden.

The White House called me up and they're like, hey, we want you to do Joe Biden.

Yeah, they just emailed me.

I thought it was.

What did he pull up in?

It was for the Detroit Auto Show.

It was a Cadillac lyric.

But they didn't tell me what he was going to be in.

It was like,

he's going to be here.

Obviously, I had to be screened.

People are like, oh, did you run up to him?

Obviously not.

Secret Service.

Yeah.

But it was like legit, like, he'll be here.

Roll on up.

Which was crazy.

I thought it was a scam, though.

I got an email from the White House that was like, greetings from the White House with the subject line.

And I was like, almost clicked the trash button.

And then then I'm like, let me look at the domain name.

And it's like whitehouse.gov.

Damn.

And I was like, what the fuck?

So then I did an interview.

And they're like, we'd like to ask you about maybe doing an interview with somebody.

And I'm like, is this about the main man?

And they're like, we can't say anything yet.

But then they did a crazy background check on me.

Damn.

Like the most insane one ever.

I'm like, what do you need?

They're like, your name and your hometown.

I was like, that's it?

And they're like, yeah, duh, we're the fucking government.

They got everything on you.

We know it's your fucking social media.

I don't know if I would have passed out.

I got arrested in high school.

Oh, okay.

Trespassing.

Oh, you'd be fine.

You think so?

Trespassing?

Yeah.

You had a clean record?

Completely clean, yeah.

Nice.

Squeaky clean.

I don't know how.

No arrests.

No arrests.

Wow.

That's insane, though, because my friends that know me are like, you're, that's.

You're a DJ.

I've definitely been like blessed up by getting not arrested.

Yeah.

I got my first speeding ticket like a year ago, which is crazy, too.

That's pretty late.

No, I know, dude.

I have like magical powers of speeding.

I mean, there's all time, there's some techniques.

Yeah.

You got the police radar?

Yeah, of course.

I have a crazy one.

It's a two-mile radius, right?

Yeah.

This shit's like, I do car rallies, like I said.

I have one called the One Times Rallies.

It's like we have like, people have like radar jammers on this thing.

But we have like, there's like a hundred of us driving together and like people have like apps.

You guys are going fast.

Oh, people are going crazy.

Allegedly.

Allegedly, right.

Yeah.

I heard a one rally.

My friend Tony Nino said you drive across the country and the first one there wins.

Oh, it's called the cannonball run.

Yeah.

He said he got arrested.

Yeah, it's a it's like, well, yeah, it's a, it's a rally.

It's not like usually people don't do it in groups, but sometimes they do, but it's, it's called a cannonball run.

And the record was like shattered during covet because no one's on the no one was on the road oh smart but people do everything they'll drive like the most common car that you can think of that's secretly modified to not draw attention they'll have like blackout like jammers they'll have like pea cups like they'll have like a team that will drive up and like refuel while you're going like it's like uh serious oh it's crazy because it's competition yeah like what do you get if you win Nothing, just bragging nights.

It's literally just like, I have the fastest SUV time on the cannonball run.

Wow.

It's an official route from New York to LA and people do it in like 20, 19 hours or something no 20 hours is like the record i did that drive when i moved to la and it took three days yeah no i mean it is literally like they're going like average of 160 like through cities like it's super dangerous like obviously yeah it's it's like crazy it's a whole thing it's like a challenge and people try to beat each other's times but the covet times are basically it's like people don't even consider them to be technically fair potentially yeah i don't know if that counts because there's less cars driving yeah but somebody just broke one uh last week for eve for diesel they have all these different side ones.

It's like motorcycle, diesel, electric, like all these different categories.

That's cool.

Yeah, they should separate the COVID times from the regular ones.

It's like the NBA when they had the COVID championship with LeBron.

Yeah, yeah.

It's the same.

Yeah.

It's not the same because you don't have the audience.

Not canon.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

That sounds like a fun one, though.

Yeah, my buddy got totally screwed.

He got arrested.

They towed his car and everything.

Well, they'll arrest you.

Like, on when I, when I do these rallies, every time somebody usually gets arrested,

they'll, I mean, because people are going 220.

Holy shit.

Not on my rally, but uh on on rallies allegedly um people are going like two oh ask people i've done videos of compilations where i go what's the fastest you've ever gone and then they they'll be like 220 215 230 like what the to everyone has gone at least like 180 190 on these things i think the fastest i've hit is 120 and that was sketchy my car was shaking oh okay you got a wild side to you uh yeah i've gone 183 184 allegedly in my car um you were self-snitching on this show but uh but like

any faster than that, if you're on a road, is so sketchy.

A lot of people do it in the job.

One little tweak and you're done.

You're done.

Anything above like 100, you're donezo.

Yeah, that quick.

It happens all the time.

People die.

Would you say you're an adrenaline junkie?

Yeah, for sure.

Not like, well, I don't know.

I do like skydiving, scuba diving, all that kind of stuff.

Not like, well, yeah, I'd say so.

There's levels to it.

Yeah, like I'm not doing like squirrel suit jumping, like shit.

Like that base jumping or whatever.

It looks fun, but that shit's crazy.

Yeah, I don't know about that one.

What about you?

I would say I'm not.

No, yeah i'm just a pc gamer i like podcasts and yeah i'm pretty mellow yeah i'd i'd say more so than the average person for sure for me yeah i noticed though a lot of really successful people have that wild side to them yeah i'm kind of like uh i definitely am like uh

i get my shit done but i like to have fun too and that's like where a lot of my videos come into play is like i'll be filming people on like a yacht partying or like a mansion but it's like entertaining like vice style content but obviously i have to be on my shit and like not get fucked up

exactly so it's it's a kind kind of a fine line.

Like I have employees and it's weird too because they'll be doing these shoots and stuff like that where you're like drinking, but you need to keep it.

It's a weird, weird industry to be.

No, I had to fight one of my last assistants out of fire and he was drinking.

Oh, yeah.

That's where I kind of draw the line.

If you're like filming and you're drunk,

it's a well, it's weird being in Arno industry because you, with your employees, you get way closer than normal employees.

Like, it's not like a normal nine to five, like work balance where you have like an HR.

I mean, it depends on the operation scale, but like for me at least i'm on the road with my employees traveling around doing fun stuff but like also you need to lay down the line right and like be like yo like i know this is all fun and stuff but like this is a business 100 dude that's been my issue because i'm on my seventh assistant i don't think i'm a dick but the problem is i just get too close with him yeah become friends we're traveling to new city every month yeah yeah yeah i've been i've had to be like whoa because i had a guy uh that used to film with me and he was like my best friend yeah and then it ended in a whole thing and now we're fine uh but exactly like when you're friends on payroll he's like my best friend friend.

Yeah, that's a tricky one.

Your best friend's asking for a raise.

It's weird.

Yeah, it's weird.

It's like hiring

your brother or something like that, which I've avoided too.

I can't work with family anymore.

I'll never give them money.

I'll never work with them.

Just keep that separate.

Oh, yeah.

People told me that as advice and it's been working out great.

Yeah.

It never works out.

Yeah, yeah.

You can't.

Yeah, as far as not hiring them.

Yeah, you can't employ your family.

Yeah, 100%.

Well, Daniel, what's next for you, man?

It's been fun.

I don't know, honestly.

I'm going to start a show, I think.

We're pitching into networks.

Nice.

I can't say who right now.

But yeah, we're going to make this into like

what I'm doing into essentially like long-form TV show, like on some of the major streaming platforms.

So I'd be on the lookout for that.

But hopefully, it gets picked up.

And yeah.

All right, man.

Thanks for coming on.

We'll be here stuff below.

Thanks for watching, guys.

See you next time.