Firewall for the Soul: Protecting Your Entrepreneurial Spirit | Jacob Sciarro DSH #1035

Trying to wind on this book, this journey of trying to seek deliverance.

And everywhere I kind of asked, was like, What are you talking about, dude?

Like, you're a Christian, you can't have a demon.

First one I did, ineffective deliverance.

Seeked another, I was like, No, I got to keep seeking another ineffective deliverance.

Finally, I'm reading this book, Holy Spirit Led.

It is one of the most true books I've ever read and the most impactful book on my life.

This chick that wrote this book, Eleanor, is the only person that's going to be able to help me.

If Eleanor cannot help me, no one can help me, and I don't have demons, and that's that.

Sure enough, demons getting can cast out of me left and right.

All right, guys, we got Jacob here from Arizona.

Thanks for flying in today, man.

Thank you for having me, Sean.

This is amazing.

Yeah, and I know you're crushing it on business, and you're getting started with your social media journey.

So, this is good timing to get your message out.

Yeah, seriously, I'm eternally grateful for you having me.

And I was just like, the first question I was curious: like, what made me attracted to like be on the show?

So, yeah, I stumbled across your content, and I felt like what you were providing on the videos was valuable.

Heck yeah.

And we'll dive into that.

Thank you, dude.

What compelled you to start posting on social media?

It first transpired when I was doing my music project Triton.

That was ended at like 2023.

I was really posting a ton of content to drive traffic to my music.

And then I determined it wasn't really a good fruit in my life.

So then I kind of veered away from the music project and then started kind of coming back to Christ.

And then I realized I looked at my social media page and I had nothing on there about Christ.

And I was like, hmm, that was a big wake-up call for me.

So, yeah.

So you wanted to make it in the music industry?

Yeah.

I was slowly making my way up.

I got to about like 30,000 monthly listeners on Spotify.

I got like 8,000 on Insta and slowly was growing.

Just determined it wasn't a good fruit.

You can do music the right way.

I just clearly wasn't.

So then I turned and stopped from it.

Were you making Christian music?

No, I was making really heavy, heavy electronic dance music, a lot of dubsteps, high trance, which not all of it's bad.

It's just you got to use a lot of discernment in that.

And

I think over a long time, the Lord kind of showed me that the stuff I was making wasn't a good fruit in my life.

So

that's a totally different lifestyle than what you got now.

Oh, yeah, yeah.

And I do think you can go to music festivals.

You can enjoy it, have a good time.

And it's totally healthy in some areas, just not all.

So

a lot of the music I was creating dealed with a lot of like spirit of heaviness, anger, wrath, murder, all of this stuff.

And yeah, it was later revealed to me down the road after I deleted it.

But yeah, some heavy stuff, heavy stuff.

Yeah.

See, I knew those topics were present in hip-hop and rap.

I didn't know that infiltrated EDM.

It's every genre of music.

So there's good stuff and there's bad stuff.

So I think one of the things that really frustrated me in the beginning was a lot of people would be like, all electronic dance music is demonic.

And that's clearly not true.

Like that's, you got to use discernment into what is, what isn't.

And so I don't know all the answers.

I just know that mine wasn't a good fruit and it wasn't impacting the people that I wanted to have an impact.

Right.

Yeah.

So I'm big on frequencies.

So I actually, if I sense the music is is kind of not a good frequency or demonic or whatever, I stop listening to it.

Yeah, and you've got that like, almost like that sick sense that's kind of whispering to you and just like a gut feeling about it.

It's just not it.

Well, most people aren't even aware of the frequency of the damage that certain music can do to your subconscious.

Yeah, the ignorance is not good.

Yeah.

And that's what, I mean, that's what I was.

I was ignorantly creating it.

And then I was like, oh, I just looking back on it.

It was so stupid.

Well, you didn't know at the time.

It's a lesson, right?

Now you can reflect on it.

Some people never reach that stage.

Exactly.

And I felt like I had to do some major repenting because like one not only was i making it two i was also then having 30 000 people listening to it as well too and i was like oh gosh wow yeah that was so when you say repenting what does that process look like um

primarily like confession to the lord like acknowledging first that like hey that was wrong and then asking for forgiveness and being sorry for it and um

I do think that you can have a personal confession with the Lord, which is really, really good, but also with your brothers and sisters is good too.

So I got a nice, we call it Jesus Club.

It's once a month.

It's like a little round table that we do.

We just meet, talk about the Lord, share, do life together, break bread.

It's wonderful.

So you had to get vulnerable and confess to your fellow friends about it.

And you were probably uncomfortable about it, right?

Oh, man.

Yeah.

I broke down to tears, honestly.

Yeah.

I was so

like.

I was, yeah, I was really, I was broken by this for a long time.

It took me a really long time.

I stopped listening to like all music.

I was like, I went super legalistic.

I was like, all music is terrible.

All music is demonic.

This is terrible.

But then I kind of cooled back from it after that.

So it was like, at first, I went super legalistic.

And then I kind of moved from there.

And I'm like, oh, okay.

Wow.

Appreciate the honesty, man.

Oh, of course.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I think a group of people around you is important.

You guys meet up once a month.

It's important to have people you could trust.

Of course.

So I got Jesus Club.

That's a once a month thing.

And then we have Happy Hour.

That's our weekly men's Bible study, which

shout out to all my guys on there.

I love you guys.

And then

just daily devotion as well, too.

But those are the two like kind of men's group that we got going on.

Nice.

What's daily devotion?

Oh, that's just, I use this term.

It's called happy and happy out.

So

from Aqua Dots, it's happy and happy out is checking in with the customer.

It's creating the Aqua Dots experience and it's really making everybody feel heard, valued, and appreciated and welcome into the space.

And I kind of just take that same concept and principle and applied it to my relationship with Christ.

And he just, he wants to check in with you in the morning, wants to check out with you at night, right?

He created the whole cosmos.

It's the least thing that you can do is spend some time with the first thing you wake up and then when you go to bed as well.

right so that's like a prayer yeah it could be prayer it could be reading it could be listening prayer sitting and just breathing it could be uh just an acknowledgement anything so yeah nice i love that yeah i think it's important just to reflect because i was talking with the last guest such fast-paced lifestyles as an entrepreneur oh yeah you uh sometimes just go through your day and just work all day and then you could repeat that for weeks for months exactly and not sit there with your thoughts ever

and i i do think that

he's the one that allows us to do all of this work.

So it'd be a good thing for us to spend time with him.

You know what I mean?

So I just like, I couldn't do it.

I couldn't build my crazy schedule without him.

So it's the least honoring thing I can do.

Absolutely.

And I study a lot of successful people, and I noticed that they spend hours either reading or reflecting.

It's not just work 24-7.

Exactly.

Scheduled rest, scheduled recovery.

Yeah, you got to put it on the calendar.

It doesn't happen.

Yeah.

But unfortunately, on social media, they promote this hustle culture.

of materialism and working, you know, 18 hours a day.

Like, that's a cool thing.

And a lot of people fall for that trap yeah working hard is really really cool but working smarter and harder is the best way to go it go about it and I do think like I mean there's people out there that are working two hours a week four hours a week and their output is way more extreme and way farther than anyone could have ever imagined that's working 12 hours a day so Tim Ferriss yeah four-hour work week baby

yeah yeah classic Richard Branson too I feel like you feel like he's chilling he's not working as hard as he used to it was just smarter work that's all you got to do so yeah I do love those guys, though.

They're great.

Yeah.

That's my goal down the road because I am, in all honesty, working 80 hours a week right now.

Dude, that's epic, though.

You're crushing it.

Yeah, dude.

I see you cranking out all these episodes.

It's cool.

But my logic is I don't have kids yet.

I don't have a family other than my fiancé.

So I want to put in that work now, build up some resources.

That way, when I have kids, they're not stressed.

Providing them, protecting.

That's amazing, dude.

And I've had, I think it's important to have these conversations with your significant other beforehand.

Make sure they're on the same page.

Of course.

Because I see a lot of of couples fighting, and I think that's lack of communication for the most part.

Big time, big time.

How many kids you want?

I want at least two, man.

Two?

What about you?

Oh, gosh.

I originally wanted three.

That's where I started.

And then I started, it was like, you know, I think back on times when we were at the cruise, we're on a cruise with my family and like how fun it was with my older brother, my younger brother.

And I was like, imagine if there was like five of us.

Damn.

You know, like, oh, right.

And then I was like, okay,

well, what if there were seven?

Yo.

And then I was like, okay, what about seven to eleven, though?

So that's where I'm sitting right now.

Seven to eleven.

Yeah.

You got to start early then.

Yeah, and I got to find a wife first.

I got to wait for God to bring someone.

So that's like still fun.

How old are you?

24.

24.

Yeah.

You could probably pull it off still.

Yeah, if you find one in the next five years, I'd say it's doable, right?

Yeah, inshallah, God willing.

Yeah, we'll see.

I love that, man.

Yeah, but yeah, dude, when you got your kids, you got to bring them to Aqua Dots, though.

Okay.

No other swim school.

All right.

All right.

That was a smooth.

I got to put it in there.

Yeah, we got to talk about the start of Aqua Tots, your swim schools.

How did that get going?

First job, family business.

So it was like about to turn 16, 2000, end of 2015, 2016.

Started as a swim instructor, and then kind of from there, climbed the ranks, right?

Surrounded myself with good mentors, leadership.

We call it Aquatots Master Water Safety Instructor.

So they helped train the other instructors as well to assess, do all that fun things.

Front desk train, and then I was assistant aquatic manager, aquatic manager, general manager, and then partnered with the right families to then get the first couple of locations.

And now we have five.

Damn, so you had to work your way up.

Yeah.

So been about eight, nine years now.

So well done, man.

Thanks.

Why is it important for kids to be swimming at that age?

Oh my gosh.

I mean, the younger you do, the better, because the neuroplasticity in the brain is so fluid, so they catch on a lot easier, right?

And they don't really build these like strongholds of fear

around the water.

And it's a lot easier to break it earlier on than later on.

And I mean, drowning is just such a painful, painful thing to watch and happen in somebody's life.

So that's why, I mean, I saw how impactful it was and I just wanted to be, you know, helping impact the community, saving drownies.

You witness a drowning?

Not actually witnessed, but this is coming up a lot sooner than I thought.

I actually almost drowned saving someone in 2019.

Oh, wow.

And that was a very traumatic experience.

I was living over in Oman, Musket.

which is right next to UAE, right in Saudi Arabia, Yemen.

And

we were out and about.

I was working at Aquitats actually over there.

There's Aquitots in Muskeg.

And we had went out with all of the staff, all of our friends and everything like that to this place called Salalah.

It's a very beautiful place.

Like seriously, a hidden gem oasis in the jungle or in the desert.

You're just driving in the middle of nothingness.

And then all of a sudden you do these beautiful waterfalls, everything.

It looks so good.

We had a great time.

We were all swimming, kind of,

what's the word?

Like, you're just kind of hiking through the waterfalls, swimming through the waterfalls.

And one of our friends there, his name was Haschel.

He wasn't the strongest swimmer.

We determined that we were going to take a picture up on the waterfall.

And

we were all sitting there, standing.

Everyone was going to jump off the waterfall for a picture except for Haschel.

He was going to just stay back.

He was just going up there for the picture.

Well, I don't know what it was.

We all jumped off.

Haschel decided he would like to also jump off as well too.

And I was like, oh, man.

You know, like at the time, I didn't see it.

We all jumped off, kind of swam away, you know, how the kind of water pushes you out, the current.

I popped up and I looked around and I was like, I heard all this commotion and screaming.

And I was like, what the heck?

And I turn around and I see Hassel drowning.

And I'm like, oh my gosh.

So instincts kick in, kind of dive in straight in, kind of swimming against the current.

My friends Abdi and Nadam also jumped in as well too.

And we started swimming.

I was the only one that broke through the current.

And

yeah, so it was a very kind of...

Yeah, it was very traumatic.

I kind of went to go grab him, but I don't know if you know what drowning people do when they are drowning.

They're freaking out.

So they are grabbing onto you.

They're shoving you under the water, trying to save themselves, right?

So I kind of go up to him.

We're getting pummeled by this waterfall.

And I'm trying to help him, but he's just shoving me underwater.

I'm like, okay, well, this isn't helpful.

So I kind of get a big

breath of air, swim under the water, kind of just put my hands up because I don't know what else to do.

And I'm kicking like crazy, trying to hold him above the water.

And.

Yeah, then I start to start sucking in water because I'm like, I don't know how long I can do this for.

Sucking in some water, I try to get up some more water or get up some more air.

He shoves me down again.

I'm like, okay, well, that's not obviously not the plan.

Kind of get shoved, like spit out on the back side of the waterfall.

If I heard it, like, this is the waterfall and like this has a lip.

We kind of got stuck behind the waterfall and now we're getting around, pushed around the other side.

Finally got to reach up, grab onto a rock.

Like I think it was God saving me because I like was trying to reach and grab for stuff.

I couldn't grab anything.

And then I was like, this is it.

I'm literally dying.

Grabbed up, grabbed onto a rock.

He grabbed onto my back instead of because he was trying to shut me down, but since I was holding on, I was okay.

Monkey walked all the way across.

And then, yeah, that was it.

Oh, what a story, man.

Yeah, that was one of my four near-death experiences.

So it's four.

Yeah.

Oh, my God.

I was trying to save you this for like we can get into the podcast, but I guess we're going straight into it right now.

Oh, man.

We move quick on this show.

I appreciate you sharing that story.

You saved a life, though.

That's crazy.

Love Hashelf.

Great guy.

And we, yeah, I was just talking to my friend Nadam about this recently because it was a

crazy, crazy experience.

And it was just even nuttier that like I almost

drowned as a swim instructor.

I was like, oh, gosh, I just cannot

drown.

Sorry, parents, I failed you.

So there's the importance right there.

You were able to save a life being a good swimmer.

Yeah.

I mean, that is massive.

There's a lot of people that don't know how to swim.

So.

Oh, my gosh.

I was so shocked.

The more that I got into aqua tauts, the more I found out like, I mean, my great-grandma, she's 97, 98.

She just turned,

can't swim.

Whoa.

So

even in my own family.

I wonder what the percent percent is.

It's got to be pretty high.

It's got to be high.

Yeah.

Because I also, I think we have six

adults doing swim lessons at our Paradise Valley location.

So

there's a lot.

That's impressive, man.

I've had four near-death experiences too.

Oh, the coincidence is crazy, dude.

You got to tell me about some of yours.

One was a Xanax withdrawal.

Okay.

So I was having a mental health problem at the time.

Bad anxiety, bad depression.

And the thing with Xanax is you can't just cut it off.

You got to taper off.

No one told me that.

So when I cut it off completely, I think within a couple of days, seizure.

Ambulance to the ER.

I'm sorry to hear that.

Was thinking about calling my parents.

Goodbye.

That was a rough one.

Second one, I used to sell candy in elementary school.

I'll slip since the start, dude.

Let's go.

Let's go.

So in Jersey, where I grew up, there's a store called Wegmans.

Okay.

So I would walk there.

It was like...

a mile or two.

Sure.

And I would have to sneak out

because I didn't want my parents knowing that I was doing that.

I was ashamed.

And I would sneak out at like 11 p.m.

So I came home one night,

the front door, guns pointed at me.

Oh, my gosh.

From my dad.

He thought someone was breaking it.

And my dad was like at the time dealing with some drug stuff.

He was hallucinating.

So

he almost shot.

His finger was on the trigger.

So that was at like 10 years old.

God's got your hand on you, bro.

Yeah.

Crazy.

What were some of yours, though?

Four is impressive at 24.

Sorry, dude.

Well, that's kind of crazy, though, that we had both at the four.

But not that I can relate to the Xanax withdrawals.

I just quit nicotine 100%

on Thursday at 4.30.

And man, those withdrawals had me feeling like Smeagol from Lord of the Rings.

I mean, I seriously was like, ah, with the 100% of the time.

I actually heard nicotine is one of the hardest.

Oh, dude.

Rough.

Rough.

Super rough.

But nothing like the Xanax, dude.

I can't even imagine.

So I'm happy.

Thank you, dude.

Happy you're doing okay.

Yeah.

Yeah, nicotine's no joke.

I heard that's one of the toughest in the world based off studies.

Never, never touching another cigarette, another Zin, another vape, another, I call them the Chinese air conditioning.

Yeah, so never again.

But yeah, no, other near-death experiences.

2016, I flipped a soft top convertible Mustang because I fell asleep driving at the wheel like an idiot.

Yeah,

sneaking out, being a dummy, hanging out with a girl where I shouldn't be, and driving on the way home, fell asleep driving.

So both of us walked away without a scratch.

Car was crumpled, completely fat, really crazy.

Yeah.

No scratch.

No scratch.

I mean, I had like a seatbelt burn, and that was about it.

That's God's work, right?

Yeah.

Just say, seriously.

And I mean, in a convertible, too.

I mean, these pictures.

Do you want me to pull up a picture?

Yeah, we'll throw it on the screen.

Just text me.

We'll throw it up.

There's that.

So, yeah, the Mustang falling asleep or yeah, falling asleep, drowning.

And then I also got hit by a red light runner, crumpled again, the front, whole front of my car.

Whoa.

Walked away, nothing.

Let's see what was the fourth one oh yeah and then the fourth one was super super crazy we were we purchased me and my dad and i purchased the home across the street to do a rental property

and we were going over there just doing some like work on the pool pumps and the

pump i don't know what happened what exactly happened but the pump where it like kind of turns off so you can like back wash and all that stuff broke so then it

the handle turned and basically caused up a giant uh

um

i don't know what do you say like basically it exploded okay so i actually actually i take back what i said about the nicotine because nicotine in this scenario actually saved me this is crazy okay oh my gosh full circle so at the time now not anymore though um me and my dad were over there fixing the pumps doing all the thing back washing the filters all the fun stuff and i was craving the nicotine but didn't want to hit it in front of my dad so i walked across the street to go hit my brother's nicotine device and then i came back and when i came back the entire backyard was about this full of water.

Whoa.

And it was like only like, what, 60 seconds of me walking across the street, hitting the vape, and coming back.

I told him I had to be.

And I came back, and my dad's just standing there, kind of dazed, soaking wet, head to toe, kind of just like this.

And I was like, oh my gosh, what's going on?

I didn't think electrocution when I first walked up, but I was like, hey, you okay?

He was incoherent, was slurring his words.

And I'm like, this is very, really weird of my dad.

Like, he's never like this.

I come up to him.

I walked through the water like an idiot.

Thank God, though, the breaker kind of went off, and so did get electrocuted.

Walked over to him and was checking him out.

And I mean, he just, when you look at someone and you know, eyes are the window to the soul and you don't see anybody there, that's kind of where he was.

And I was like, oh gosh, what's happening?

Checked him out, make sure everything was okay.

Notice he had bleeding at the top of his head in one spot and then another spot, but no cuts, just blood seeping out.

But basically, long story short, the entire

gosh, words, words, the filters for exploded.

It wasn't a sand filter, it was a cartridge filter.

Cartridge filter exploded, caused the water to go everywhere.

There was a cord that electrocuted him, and then I think he was electrocuted for about 120 seconds or something.

Crazy crap.

Yeah, his survival rate was like, God saved him as well, too.

So it was just crazy.

And I would have been in it with him if I didn't go and hit the vape.

So, like, the one time nicotine, I'll say, was a good beneficial

portion of my life is then.

Can't argue that then.

Yeah.

So yeah.

And then I came, called the ambulance, kind of cooled him off, sat him down in the chair, went to the hospital.

He lost like all his sight, everything like for a while.

His face was drooping, all this stuff.

And then

God willed it.

A couple weeks later, he was 100% like full recovery.

Yeah, full recovery, nothing.

That's so nuts.

When I look at these near-death experiences, like the one with Trump a month ago,

that has to be God.

It has to be something.

The odds of him just that whole thing turning was crazy.

Yeah.

And what's crazy is there's these miracles and these God-given, crazy things happening all around us every single day, but we just don't open our eyes to see it.

We like to choose to

choose to look at the negative stuff.

But there's miracles happening and gives happening and all this stuff going on all the time all around us.

But we just got to be attuned to seeking that and not the negative news.

You know what I mean?

Yeah, I believe in miracles.

You hear all these medical stories of doctors saying you have a 0% chance and then they make a full recovery.

Just like that.

And they call it a miracle.

Yeah.

But it's something more than that, right?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Are you a believer?

I would say right now I am.

Okay.

Before I started the show, I was atheist, though.

Yeah, okay, cool.

Crazy, right?

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, I've had on some guests that have really shifted my decisions.

Nice.

And any one specific God like Christ or just God in general so far?

God in general, I think.

Okay, cool.

So like Gnostic?

Yeah.

Okay, cool.

I wouldn't label myself yet, but I would say I believe in a higher power.

That's what I, hey, dude.

From atheist to that, that's a massive growth step.

So like my encouragement to you is just keep seeking and you'll find.

Thanks.

Were you your whole life Christ about Christ?

Almost.

So I grew up in a perfect Christian household.

My family, my mom, my dad, my brothers, every like perfect role models, right?

However, I think just like most people kind of veered away from, not most people, but veered away from the faith.

And from there, started getting into drugs, women, all the stuff the world has to offer, right?

And from that,

kind of, you know, sin separates you from God.

So I kept getting further and further and further and further away from God until the point to where I was just a hot mess.

I mean, depressed, anxious, all the different things that you could imagine,

mentally ill, physically sick,

until then I went Gnostic for a little bit.

So I was like, I believe in God, higher power, right?

But I'm not going to label it and specifically say it's Christ Jesus, right?

In this pluralistic culture, I can't singly say it's just Christ, right?

Because that means everything else is wrong.

And that's a bold thing to say.

And so I just kept seeking, kept going down.

And eventually I was like, you know what?

I've been a Christian my whole life, said I'm a Christian.

I've never read the Bible from start to finish.

I'm going to read the Bible start to finish.

But I started reading it with the mindset of disproving it.

And I wasn't hearing from God.

And I read, I was like, I was like 800 pages in or something like that.

And it wasn't until I got to Proverbs.

And

man, it just hit me like a brick one day.

Like God showed up and he was just like, I felt so convicted, I repented of all the things I was doing.

And that was like the starting point to where I was back in the faith with Christ.

And after getting back in the faith in Christ, well, then this led me on this long journey to what my message, what I really wanted to talk about today of deliverance.

So

I basically was, I came to the conclusion that there was a lot of spooky stuff happening in my life that was supernatural that shouldn't have been happening.

And I kept reading books and doing my own research, and it led me to, I think I need to be delivered, right?

However, deliverance is not really talked about in a lot of churches across the world and specifically in America.

So Satan by nature is a creature of darkness and he doesn't want his activities exposed.

And with that, he's kind of lulled a lot of the churches into this sleepy state where deliverance is a thing of the past, right?

That was in Jesus' time.

That's not in now, but it's equally as now as back then.

It's just not talked about.

It's a forgotten ministry of Jesus Christ.

And so I've kind of went on this journey of trying to seek deliverance.

And everywhere I kind of asked was like, what are you you talking about, dude?

Like, you're a Christian, you can't have a demon, right?

Like, that was the big, major thing.

And it was like, theology says you can't have a demon.

And I was like, okay, okay, okay.

Kept seeking, kept getting this prompting to keep going forward, to keep seeking.

Met with some spiritual mentors of mine, wonderful people.

He was like, hey, let's try it.

First one I did, ineffective deliverance.

I was like, okay, this made me think I'm even more crazy, right?

Like, this can't happen.

So I went along three more months, seeked another.

I was like, no, I got to keep seeking.

Another ineffective deliverance.

I'm like, oh my gosh.

Okay, now I'm really going crazy.

Then I get recommended from these people that, or the second one, the people that do it on a weekly basis, they're going to be effective.

I'm like, okay, great.

Go there to do this deliverance.

Nothing.

Finally, I'm reading this book.

It's called Restoring the Broken Walls of Past Generations,

Discovering the Forgotten Ministry of Jesus Christ.

And it's by Eleanor.

Amazing, amazing book.

Holy Spirit-led.

It is one of the most true books I've ever read and the most impactful book on my life.

Obviously, outside of the Bible, the books of the Bible.

And

from from there, I determined this chick that wrote this book, Eleanor, is the only person that's going to be able to help me.

She gets it.

She knows what she's talking about, right?

Like, everything in this book is lining up so well with my life.

I know I have demons, so I got to get them out.

Through a chain of people, I asked Mark, who Mark asked Justin, Justin asked Dwayne, and Dwayne gets this girl, Eleanor's number.

Finally, we get to meet up with Eleanor, and this is in, I think, December of 2023.

I'm like, thank God.

Like, if this, if Eleanor cannot help me, no one can help me, and I don't have demons, and that's the end of it.

Super long story short.

We get to go to Eleanor and she's like, hey, I can do it on Monday in person or I can do it Friday over FaceTime.

I'm like, you can cast out demons over FaceTime.

I'm like, you're kidding, right?

Like, you're joking.

And she's like, no, seriously, I can do it.

So I'm like, hey, you know what?

I want this done now and not in person.

So let's do it over FaceTime.

Super long story short, nothing happened over FaceTime.

I'm like, oh my gosh, dude, are you kidding me?

Nothing happened.

She's like, hey, this is an unusual case.

I need need to see you on Monday.

Fast for a little bit longer.

And let's, I'll fast too.

My sister will fast, and we're all going to meet up on Monday.

Meet up on Monday.

Sure enough, demons can't cast out of me left and right.

It was crazy.

Yeah, but it was wild.

It's still wild to say.

Now it's become a little bit more of a normal thing in my life, but like back then, like, I mean, I was just left after, eyes wide open, jaw dropped.

Like, that just happened.

That's crazy.

Coming back to telling my family about like what happened and they're thinking I'm an absolute lunatic.

Love you, mom and dad.

Love you, Adam, love you, love you, Luke.

But But like, seriously,

everyone was thinking I was crazy.

It was crazy.

And then, yeah.

So wait, so you saw them coming out of you?

No, I didn't see them.

I, oh my gosh, they can come out coughing, sneezing, belching, weeping, crying, throwing up, retching, screaming.

They're caught feeling like, yeah, it's

yeah, it's violent.

And how did you know they were in you?

Like, what, what was so compelling that you knew you tried four different people out?

The symptoms.

Yeah.

Yeah.

When you have like mental, like you can have bad thoughts and not be demon oppressed.

Okay, let me be very clear.

We're not like getting all demon.

The thing with deliverance ministry and deliverances, everyone likes to go so gung-ho on the demon.

And then you get confirmation bias thinking like, ah, that's a demon.

That's a demon.

That's a demon.

Okay, relax.

Calm down.

It takes a lot of, like, we got to take a lot of discernment with bringing these spiritual matters like in front of us.

And when you just keep having.

this insane mental oppression, this insane depression, this insane like spirit of heaviness on you, anxiety, all of these things, this is not the abundant life that God came to bring for us, right?

It's not what he intended for man.

And I was like, that makes sense.

Okay.

But the issue is with the world is what happens is

they're trying to deal with a spiritual root issue with like the physical,

the fruit of it, right?

So the fruit of it is anxiety, but the root of it could be a demonic entity.

Not all the times.

You can definitely have them

side by side, but a lot of the times that's what it was for me.

And as soon as like for me, my physical illness, I grew up, I was that weird weird kid with allergies, asthma, gut issues, everything.

I couldn't eat left, right, all this stuff

to all these different ailments.

After I got delivered, and I started obviously changing my diet, all that stuff definitely feeds into it as well, too.

But the real turning point was getting delivered.

I got no gut issues.

I've got no allergies.

I've got no asthma.

Crazy.

Whoa.

Black and white.

All that.

Craziness.

It's mind-blowing.

It is.

It really is.

It was a miracle.

Oh, my God.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I never would have connected physical ailments to that, to a demonic possession.

And it's it's very, they're very sneaky, though.

That's what they like to do.

They like to, because they're creatures of darkness, they like to hide behind something.

So that's what they usually do.

So either mental illness or a physical ailment, they always hide behind it.

And

there's a big difference.

I heard that word possession.

There's a difference between demonic possession and demonization.

So possession implies complete ownership, which can't happen to a Christian because God owns you, right?

God owns your own.

Demonization is just little bits of legal right from the inside influence, not the outside.

So colonization versus possession.

That's good to know.

Thanks for clarifying that.

Do you think you're born with demonization or is that something that's acquired through life?

Ooh,

that is a really good question.

So part of it is casting, the deliverance is casting out demons.

The other side of the equation is generational curses.

And this is where it gets a little weird, right?

So in Exodus, it talks about that the sins will be laid down on the father and the children of the children.

And then the ones who, I'm paraphrasing, unfailing love, the blessings will also be passed down generation to generation.

So you have both the demons can enter, you can give legal right to your own sin in your life that can give legal right to the demons in you, or vice versa, something that your parents did on your mom's side or your dad's side of the bloodline going back to the beginning of time as well too.

Really?

Yeah, it's really crazy.

And Eleanor's book, if you guys are more interested in than read this, highly recommend is Restoring the Broken Walls of Past Generations, Discovering the Forgotten Ministry of Jesus Christ.

She goes into depth.

I'm summarizing it right now.

There's also Derek Prince is another author as well too, but they go into depth on generational curses and how it happens at the time of like conception, right?

And you're born with it.

And so it's

interesting.

I wonder how common these generational curses are in families.

My thinking is if I just look around and how evil the world is today and just like the evil generation and the stuff and like I'm equally of a sinner and I'm not holier than thou.

Hear me loud and clear.

I'm like literally the worst of the worst.

So I'm saved by Christ Jesus and it's all in his name and his glory.

It's nothing to do with me.

I just look around and I think the demons are having a heyday because they are so undercover right now, but so in the face at the same time, I think Satan uses his twin tool of ignorance and fear comboed to then just open the door for his destructiveness.

Wow.

And I think he's having a heyday right now, which is so, in my opinion, backwards because everything's been finished at the cross of Calvary and Jesus Christ has done everything and defeated Satan.

Just the enforcers have sucked.

And the enforcers being us humans enforcing this

provision what Christ made at the cross for us.

It's just

very interesting.

So I believe, I don't know, I think in three years we could totally flip the world upside down.

Nice.

100%.

Yeah.

Well, when you study ancient civilizations, they seem to be very attuned to this kind of stuff.

Yeah, they weren't dumb.

They weren't dumb.

I think we're the dumb ones.

No, I think they were very much more spiritually evolved than we are right now.

Yeah, everyone's so disconnected.

And then you can go down the route of like just the food people are eating, right?

The chemicals being sprayed in the air, all this stuff that just like is slowly severing your connection to God.

So, like, that's the ultimate goal of it.

Well, that's their goal, right?

Sever that connection.

Yeah, sad.

They don't want us to know that we have these abilities.

Exactly, exactly.

And I guess the power that comes from Christ Jesus is amazing.

It's unmatched.

There's no every niche on battle, right?

So it's like, yeah, wow.

This is why I had you on, man.

I love it.

Thank you.

In a thousand two hundred episodes, I've never had someone talk about this kind of stuff.

Yeah, that's but that's the issue.

That's the problem.

No one's talking about it.

No one's bringing awareness to it.

And my main hope with this is not to bring any type of fear.

That is the worst thing to do.

It's be like, Sean, you have a demon.

No, it does not work like that.

I can share my testimony, the things that I related to, and see, and then invite you into this and be like, hey, Sean, here's what I was experiencing.

If you're experiencing some similar stuff, let's have a discussion and see if we can get you the help.

But

yeah, most, it's just the awareness.

Satan has lulled everybody into sleep that this is a thing of the past when it is alive and it is active.

And it's just

people need help.

I mean, they're seeking counseling, they're seeking community, which is all a great piece, but that comes after you get the root out, right, with the deliverance.

So you got to get the stuff out, then the community and the connection and all that stuff happens.

Absolutely.

Yeah.

So do you envision a society with no demons?

Because here's where we might differ.

I believe in yin and yang.

I believe in good and evil.

I think there needs to be a balance.

Sure, sure.

So do you envision just no demons at all?

That's a good question.

I

don't, I don't know.

I don't know.

I think that the more that you can kind of, well, evil is never going to stop, right?

It's always going to push and push and push until it's met with an equal or greater force, right?

In pushing that back.

And so I think there's always going to be that kind of tension, like you were talking about, the yin and the yang, until Christ comes back or whichever, yeah, that comes first.

And so I, yeah, I just,

I would love that.

That would be amazing, but we live in a broken world and it's a fallen world.

Yeah, I'm with you on that, dude.

Cause you hear these talks of world peace, right?

Yeah.

And it sounds great.

But is it actually great if everyone had world peace?

Yeah.

You know, yeah, big time.

I, I mean, it would be epic, but I don't think that's ever fully going to be the case until the

coming back of Christ Jesus.

So has anyone explained the gospel to you like in super simple terms?

Not really.

No, I just like, I usually like to break it down in four pieces.

It's super, super easy.

So you have creation, fall, redemption, and restoration.

And so the creation is God created the heavens and the earth, right?

You got the whole of Genesis.

After that, man rebelled, sinned, Satan deceived him, right?

That's when Satan became the legal kind of ruler of this earth.

God's still sovereign.

And then you move to redemption.

That's what Christ did at the cross, right?

He's died for everybody's sins for all of us.

As simple and as complex as the gospel is, it's so simple at the same time as well.

And then we're kind of in between this redemption and the restoration phase.

So Christ already died.

on the cross, rose from the dead, he's coming back.

Restoration is going to be when heaven comes to earth and earth comes to heaven.

Got it.

And are they saying a time period that's going to have potentially happen or no?

I try to stay away from this.

I try to like nothing.

Yeah, yeah, well, it is.

I mean, I do feel like with how evil the world is getting, if I just open my eyes and look around, I'm like.

I hope it's soon.

Like, I mean, it could be tomorrow.

I'd just be thrilled with that.

I mean, yeah, sad.

I don't have to have my seven to eleven kids, but I'd rather just be in heaven.

Like, amen.

But, yeah, so I do sense evil.

I've become more sensitive being able to talk to so many different people and kind of feeling them out.

And I do sense a lot of evil when I'm just walking about these days.

Yeah, you can see it in their eyes, too.

You can, dude.

There's certain celebrities.

We don't have to name drop any, but you see them and you just don't see like a soul almost, if that makes sense.

I mean, you could talk about aura, right?

Like, I know that's like the hot word that goes around right now, but it's,

it's a weird, it's a thing.

Like, you, and I think as you grow in the discernment as well, too, it makes it more evident about like who was the demon, who was that.

Because, like, I try not.

My goal is I walk around and I look at everybody like they are God's loved one, beloved children, and that their soul is more valuable than mine.

And I want to make everyone feel heard, valued, and appreciated, and just love on people.

And then, if I hear something in a conversation that might trick, and I'm like, ooh, that's not a, that's not, that's not too good.

Let me help see if I can educate or inform you and see if deliverance is fit for you.

Then I got to go down the route.

And so that's how, like, my first, when I did my first deliverance on someone else, that's kind of how it came to be.

Oh, so you're doing the now on people?

On a weekly basis now.

Whoa.

Yeah.

It went from, it was like an anomaly in my life.

And then it was like five months later, six months later.

And then it was like, okay, here's one person that needs, God brought me one person that needs to be delivered.

Then it was like a month later, two months later, and then it was like one more.

And then it was like, okay, three weeks, two weeks, one week.

Now it's like, yeah, regular.

Wow.

But all glory to God.

The Holy Spirit, Jesus' name, has nothing to do with me.

I'm just like the kind of facilitator.

Dang, that's fascinating.

And everyone that comes to you has demons at this demonic demonization at this point?

So far, was it?

i'm five for five or six for six not in like just in in terms of effective deliverance because then this is where you get into another weird space is there's a lot of ineffective deliverance out of there and effective deliverance as well too and ineffective deliverance drives people to believing that it doesn't work it's a god of the past right all this stuff right but

yeah it's just been effective every single time so far and i think it's just because people have lack of knowledge misinformation and I think those two things are better than no information.

It's worse than no information, right?

Because you're just, yeah.

So what causes it to be ineffective?

Because you tried four different people, right?

So what do you think it was?

Do you think they were just too strong or

a multitude of reasons?

There's a couple, a couple of different reasons.

I think the first one is I don't think it was God's timing.

I think God wills everything.

God has to will it, right?

The second is I think those people didn't quite know exactly what they were doing.

And like as I went through deliverance and went through the actual process and I compared it to what it was, I was like, that's not doing it.

So got it.

And then third, I think obedience has a big play into it.

So I think

your spiritual authority is directly linked to your spiritual intimacy with Christ.

And I don't think maybe they had like as much of the authority, right?

It's the Holy Spirit's power, but obedience plays a big factor into that.

And

fasting does as well, too.

So you got to kind of break these things.

And fasting before the deliverance helps.

And so I did a big, big old fast before the other one as well.

Wow, dude, it's fate I've had you on today.

I'm going to an energy healing session after this.

And I could have had on any guess before, but it was you.

Yeah.

Isn't that crazy?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I'm pretty excited.

I've never done anything like this.

Heck yeah.

If you ever want to try a different type of healing, you know the guy to call.

So I, yeah, dude.

I'm so serious.

I'm so serious.

I might need to hit you up, man.

Yeah.

It's a, yeah.

Anything else you want to get off your chest, maybe where people can find you and potentially talk to you if they are dealing with some stuff?

Yeah, I mean, right now we're working, I've called it Operation Restoring the Broken Wall, influenced heavily by Eleanor's book, working on creating a school community.

Shout out Alex Ramose

on

just bringing a one awareness to deliverance.

And then, most importantly, above awareness to deliverance, that there is a heavenly father that loves you and supports you and is there for you more than you could ever imagine.

And

I think the enemy rejoices when he gets, when God gets blamed for all the evil stuff happening in the world.

So I want to advocate for God.

He is a good, good God.

He is a heavenly father in all this evil stuff.

He doesn't want it to happen.

There's an enemy that's kind of framing him badly.

So absolutely.

Yeah.

Well, we'll link your site below, man, if people people want to get a session with you.

Thanks so much for coming on.

Of course, dude, thank you.

Pleasure.

Absolutely.

Thanks for watching, guys.

See you next time.