The Hidden Truth: Government Insiders Suppress Positive UFO Data | Ryan Bledsoe DSH #995

You know, so it hasn't all been positive,

the government interaction that we've received.

And then some of it has been very positive.

And they've come in and they've encouraged us to tell our story and, you know, encouraged dad to put out his book and encourage me to keep going.

So it's like the sense that I get is there's these multiple factions within the intelligence agencies that have different agendas.

All right, guys, got Ryan Bledsoe here today.

It's an honor, man, to shed some light light on this space.

There's a lot of misinformation, as we were talking about earlier.

So thanks for coming on.

Thanks for having me, man.

Yeah, I don't know if people know who to look to for this type of stuff.

It's very convoluted, that's for sure.

Yeah, because you got all sorts of messages.

The government's coming out with their own messaging.

You got people going on podcasts, getting millions of views with their messaging.

And then you got social media posts.

So you don't know where to look for this type of stuff.

Right.

Yeah, and it's also like

there's so much, as you said, there's so much government influence in this space.

It's like, who do we we trust, right?

Yeah, I wonder what their angle is.

You would probably know more than most people.

Well, my sense tells me that their angle is to spend this as negative, that they want to discourage us from connecting with it at all.

So they must know something then.

Yeah.

Maybe they've already made contact.

I wouldn't say that, not based on what I've been told.

Really?

Yeah.

I mean, there are some stories of like back in the 1950s, maybe things coming over the White House and, you know, maybe talking to presidents and making warnings and things like that about like nuclear testing.

But that's about all that I really know about like confirmed contact.

But it's not that they're like

regularly communicating with these entities.

It's actually the opposite and they're desperate to make the connection.

They're desperate to see what it is that they're here for and what it is that they want.

I have heard these entities don't want nuclear warfare, actually, because that affects a lot more than just the physical grid, right?

Right.

Yeah, it affects the dimensions around us.

How do you think it affects them?

I mean, I don't know, man.

I'm not a scientist, but it's just something that we were told that they were warned in the 1950s to stop doing nuclear testing above ground because it's harming beings and other realities.

Wow.

Yeah.

That's crazy.

Yeah.

And there's multiple people that have received that message.

There's my dad.

There are people in the government who have told us this, as well as another...

pretty well-known experiencer of this phenomenon named Dorothy Isat, who is a very fascinating lady.

She's now passed, but for like 30 years, she was recording this 8mm footage.

Have you heard of her?

No.

Yeah, so you know the 8-millimeter camera, right?

Like the Super 8?

8mm camera.

Like the older fashion camera with like...

If I saw it, maybe.

Yeah, yeah, with like the physical film that runs through.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah.

She was recording like for 30 years.

What?

Yeah.

Getting evidence of, you know, light beings,

this sort of spiritual phenomenon that we experience.

And anyway, the point is they came in and they told her the same thing according to her buddy.

That's faceted.

They warned about nuclear testing above ground and things like that.

How early on with your dad's stuff did you start believing him or was it right away?

Right away.

Oh, really?

Yeah.

So I was 13 at the time and I got off the school bus that day.

My grandfather...

was my next-door neighbor.

So a lot of days I would go to his house and I would sort of wait for everybody else to get home and watch TV with him and that kind of thing

and that day was different he said to me literally he said to me boy your daddy's been smoking dope and he saw a green boogean in the woods the other day and I'm like what do you mean by that I don't understand so my dad gets home I ask him the question and you know that Papa said you saw a green booge and then he told me what happened

and I knew that he was telling me the truth I could just see it in his eyes and my brother who was with him.

We can get into that if you.

And it was maybe weeks after that, as a family, we started seeing the phenomenon for ourselves.

Whoa.

So, there was never a question in my mind: was this happening or was this true at all?

I mean, from the start, I was all about it and was seeing it right away.

It never went away.

Interesting.

Why do you think your family was the one they chose to kind of make contact with?

I don't know.

We get asked that all the time, and we don't have, I think, an answer to this day.

Something my dad recently said on the Sean Ryan show

might not be out yet, but something he said that I really liked that he's never said before

is that he feels maybe these entities started appearing to him because he's the kind of person that would never back down in the face of a challenge and that no matter how hard it would get to carry forward telling our story, that he would continue, you know, despite the ridicule, despite the shame and the humiliation.

So I don't know.

Maybe it's just because we're resilient people.

That's interesting.

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There was probably a lot of doubts, a lot of hates coming your way, right?

Government organizations investigating it.

Yeah, it's mirroring us.

Not much positivity coming out of it.

Not in the beginning.

Yeah, now's a different story.

Yeah, now people are starting to wake up to it.

Yeah.

And how long did that take, you'd say?

Because the original event 2007 is when it happened.

Yeah.

So how long did it take to see some positive feedback?

Okay, so we in our family like to call this the five years of darkness, right?

So it starts in 2007.

We are just devastated as a family.

We're having these experiences with these things that are clearly,

I mean, for lack of better words, I would say angelic.

I mean, it's very positive and people are, you know, healed of ailments from these things.

And

the catch, though, is that

the horror and the trauma came from the people around us, right?

The family members, the community,

because we're from

a not-so-big town from North Carolina where kind of everybody knows everybody that's from there, you know?

And we were just...

pariahs in the community.

I mean, the church rejected us.

Everybody rejected us.

They said either we were, you know, demonically possessed or on drugs or crazy or making it all up.

And that has persisted to this day.

But my point is, those first five years was just pure chaos.

It was pure, it was a nightmare, right?

From the people around us.

I mean, someone called social services on us.

You know, he's going crazy, can't take care of his kids.

We're getting mocked at school because they put out a documentary about us in 2008 and just all this stuff.

And then 2012 comes.

and

my father has another very profound entity encounter that changed the course of all of it.

And then shortly after that is when literal agents of the Department of Defense came to our house to start seriously investigating us more.

And I think that from the years of like being seriously investigated by, you know, these DOD agencies, it kind of,

you know even though they might be some shady people i think it gave us a sense that someone is listening and taking us seriously you know what i mean right because nobody else was

and um that did help a lot knowing that there's someone out there who's listening

but the catch is from all these years being close to these people i've heard a lot i've learned a lot about why they're coming why they want this information what their motives are

things of that nature.

And here we are, you know.

Yeah, because at the time you probably thought they were trying to help you guys.

And there's no hidden agendas, right?

Yeah, some of them, for sure.

Some of them, absolutely not.

We have received,

you could say,

death threats.

We've received veil threats.

Veiled, I mean, like, you know, kind of like subtle threats.

Like,

you know, we can make you disappear if you go tell your story a way we don't like.

If, you know, what would you do if the New York Times showed up on your doorstep chris talking to my dad right

would you go tell your story yeah certainly i would okay well then we could put a bullet in the back of your brain or your your wife or your kid or we could run you off the road with a mac truck and make you disappear whoa you know so it hasn't all been positive the the the government interaction that we've received and then some of it has been very positive and they've come in and they've encouraged us to tell our story and you know encouraged dad to put out his book and and encourage me to keep going so it's the sense that I get is there's these multiple factions within the intelligence agencies that have different agendas.

But the crux of the agenda is

the big,

I would say, government agenda is to smear this entire subject as negative, whether that be in the form of it's demonic or in the form of this little mythology that they're building, that they're here to invade us or harm us or jam our radars, jam our missile silos.

They're trying to give this evidence, so to speak, although they haven't presented any except for a couple of blips on a radar, right?

That they have these insidious intentions and it's false.

Absolutely.

So when you saw them release all that UFO documentation, what did you think of that?

Well, I knew the people that were responsible for it, you know, so it's like, I guess I had a different,

I guess I had a different reaction than everybody else when it was coming out because we were having these conversations and we knew that this ball was rolling forward.

Yeah, so I don't know.

I mean, I guess it was just like

not really surprising to me.

Yeah.

It seemed like most people weren't too shocked, actually.

Like, I feel, I thought that would have like really incited something in people.

Yeah, what I've noticed, Sean, is

because

you have to understand that since 2007,

my family has seen this whole UFO thing differently because we've been more or less a subject in this field.

Right.

As opposed to, you know, it's like when you're a child and you are robbed of the idea of, is there something out there because you're seeing it and now you know for a fact, right?

But then there's everybody around you who is, I wonder if there's anything else, you know, else out there, but then telling you, no, but not what you're seeing.

You're crazy.

So I've just had a different experience of this, right?

What I've noticed is that when they started getting this ball rolling, whether, you know, there's a deceptive agenda or not, when they started getting this ball rolling, I've noticed people around me in my immediate circle and my

little

private connections and things like that, the attitude started to change.

Right.

Okay, maybe there is something out there that the government's acknowledging it, right?

But

yeah.

So.

That makes makes sense.

Yeah, from your point of view.

Now, there's all sorts of theories on where these UFOs are coming from.

I've seen space, obviously.

I've seen other dimensions.

I've seen from the ocean, water.

Right.

Where do you stand on that debate?

I don't really think it's a debate.

I think if we were to go by evidence,

the evidence shows that it's probably a phenomenon that interacts with our consciousness and comes from,

as it's been explained to me by, for example, a program director in the CIA named Jim Simi Van.

You can look him up

for anybody out there who's not interested, I mean,

who's not familiar with who he is.

He told me one time that they know and understand that this is a phenomenon that has not come from another place, but actually exists all around us, and that they have been here longer than we have.

And as a matter of fact, they may have created us,

and that they communicate to us through symbols, And that

basically what he inferred to me was that there is a spectrum of existence throughout the universe.

And if you think of this spectrum in the sense of consciousness, right, you have psychic development among different species.

So you have a rock, right?

Maybe it has a consciousness.

Probably not very psychic.

Probably can't form thoughts, right?

I mean, we can all agree on that.

And then you have, you know, animals.

They're alive.

They're conscious.

they have thoughts and feelings and emotions but maybe not you know in the way that we do which is

I think therefore I am you know we're philosophical we we think about things more spiritually and and and in that arena and then as you go up the spectrum you go higher on this continuity of more psychic less physical the point being that I believe that these beings are on the no-physical, purely psychic, spiritual realm of existence on this continuity that maybe they don't have physical bodies at all and don't need them and don't you know uh maybe they could manifest one by thought if they wanted to it's what was inferred to me and um

yeah that's kind of more along the lines of what i think is going on that's the best explanation i've heard spiritual phenomenon wow yeah because everyone thinks they're like a physical like green slimy like alien or whatever from hollywood but yeah because they're telling us that that's what it is right yeah so they're programming that thought.

Wow.

Yeah, they could just be light beings like you were saying earlier, right?

Yeah.

Interesting.

That's super cool.

Did you see the government last week release some stuff about remote viewing?

No, I didn't.

Really?

Yeah, that was interesting.

So they pretty much admitted that that exists.

Yeah, it definitely does.

You think so?

I know so.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Have you experienced it?

Yes.

Oh, wow.

Yeah.

I was just telling you, just last night, I had dinner with a good old family friend of mine, Colonel John Alexander.

He's one of the guys who ran the program, you know, him and Joe McMonagall

and others involved with Project Stargate.

Was that at the Monroe Institute?

Well, no, it wasn't at the Monroe Institute.

The whole Stargate thing was like an Army intelligence project, but they, particularly Joe McMonagall down the road, got very intimately involved with the Monroe Institute and helped them develop a lot of their

practices and things with

his experience and expertise in this whole body of psychic knowledge.

So they've meshed after the fact, I think.

And I'm kind of paraphrasing.

There's a lot more out there that people could verify on that.

But yeah.

That's interesting.

So when it comes to remote viewing, is that a state where you can see aliens when you're in that state?

Okay.

So

first of all,

you don't have to be remote viewing or in that state.

to see anything.

You just have to kind of humble yourself and go outside at night and look up at the sky and just ask, you know, if there's anything up there, would you be willing to let me see?

You know?

And if you're nervous or afraid about asking out loud, that's fine.

Do it in your thoughts.

Connect in your thoughts.

This is a consciousness-based thing, right?

But I have heard reports of people like Joe McMonagall, who I was telling you about, remote viewer.

001 and other people who did attempt to remote view aliens and supposedly they got hits.

I can't, you know, speak to what their hits were and what the accuracy of that was, but that is a thing that they discuss.

But that's not my experience.

You don't have to remote view.

You just go outside and ask nicely.

Interesting.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I've seen certain meditations you can do outside and it increases the odds of seeing them.

Right.

Yeah.

So I'll try that.

Yeah.

So you've heard.

What are the chances like some ordinary person could just do that, you think?

100%.

Really?

I'm telling you, yes.

100%.

Wow.

Everybody out there listening can go outside.

You have to have the right intention, right?

It's not about being some special person.

It's not about being some miraculously, psychically developed individual.

It's just about having the right intention and trying to connect with the other, right?

The other being this invisible realm that is all around us that we have been disconnected from by the powers that be, right?

There is another.

world around us that exists that we can freely connect with Probably in my opinion because we come from this world and we are all little fractal representations of this, you know, divine consciousness or whatever you want to call it.

Interesting.

I don't know.

Yeah, there's theories of like dimensions how we keep evolving, right?

We start off as like a rock, like you said, work our way up through animals and then human.

Yeah, something along those lines.

What's next, right?

What's next?

I don't know.

You know, if I'm just talking speculation, I would say maybe we're approaching a time where psychic perception will be a lot more normal.

And I think when it's like at a baseline accepted by everybody that these kinds of phenomenon not only exist, but they are a natural part of our existence, we'll all sort of put our heads together to figure out how to develop this further, right?

And maybe we'll be in a future where we all can remote view,

which we can.

We just have to know that we can, right?

You have to know that

what you're capable of before you can do it, right?

And I think maybe

we're going to reach a time where we really develop these things.

Absolutely.

It's a race.

So when you see all these crazy stories about abductions, you're probably really skeptical, right?

Because you're used to all this misinformation being everywhere.

Yeah, I don't.

That's a hard one.

That's a hard one to get into because,

you know, my dad was taken for four hours

the original night in 07.

And

they sent out MUFON investigators.

It took my dad forever to report the story because he was worried about losing his kids, worried about his family breaking apart.

So

it took him about 10 months to work up the nerve to report his case, right?

And we're watching TV one night, and there's the show called UFO Files, which was like one of those early, mid-2000s paranormal investigator shows that are really cheesy, right?

And there was a blurb on the bottom that said, report your sighting at MUFON.com.

So, you know, okay, why not?

He types it up, he sends it in.

Immediately they get involved.

They start trying to investigate us and see what's going on.

And they reported back.

CE4 abduction.

Close encounters of the fourth kind abduction.

So I've always kind of not liked the A word, you know, it has this connotation to it, but I can't lie to you and tell you that my dad wasn't taken somewhere else.

Now, when I hear stories of other people taken somewhere else,

stories that I can't verify or that I'm not 100% sure are credible.

I don't know if I necessarily buy every story I hear about someone boarding a saucer and getting their flesh peeled off, and you know, a rod stuck up God knows where, and eggs being harvested, and all this stuff.

I just, it's very counter to my

experience and my immediate circle of what I know for a fact is happening and is real.

And I know for a fact that the United States government and intelligence agencies around the world are desperate to find out what's going on and why these beings are coming.

And they're telling us they don't communicate with us.

They don't interact with us.

I've had literal program directors of

multiple different agencies physically come to our house just to get a crack at seeing this thing

and interacting with this thing.

And they tell us they don't interact with us.

What do they want?

Why are they coming?

What are they doing?

But then they go and they put out on TV this big mythology like there's this galactic federation and all this stuff.

So I just, I don't know, I don't buy everything I see.

I've heard about that federation.

Yeah.

What do you think about that?

Because apparently it connects all the solar systems or whatever.

Galaxies.

I mean, that's the theory, right?

That's the mythology.

That's the story that they're kind of putting out there.

But no.

You don't buy it?

No.

That's interesting.

I haven't looked too much into that one, but there's some people that claim that they're at the head of it, right?

That they're communicating with these alien entities.

Yeah, and they claim they have like a, you know, like a deep space program and they fight these secret wars with aliens and stuff like that.

I mean, it's just, it's just a bunch of,

it's a bunch of mythology, man.

Right.

It's a bunch of.

It's so crazy how Hollywood villainizes these aliens and then your experiences have all been pleasant.

Yeah.

So it's like the opposite.

Right.

Something that was told to us was that 95% of the reports that they receive, they being Department of Defense,

95% of the reports that they receive receive are actually positive or angelic.

Whoa.

So

if we're to assume that there actually is a 5%

of negative reports, which they receive thousands and thousands of reports of experiences every year.

If we're to assume that there are that, you know, 5% of potential negative experiences, why is that their focus?

Why are they not acknowledging the positive?

Why are program directors from multiple agencies and intelligence assets coming to our property, investigating us, getting actual genuine data that there is a benevolent phenomenon interacting with humanity?

And by this point, it's been almost 18 years we've been in this space.

Thousands of people have seen this phenomenon that we have

alerted them about and tried to help them understand how to connect with, which is exactly what I said earlier.

And, you know, we've face-to-face been with hundreds of different people at this point, seen the phenomenon with them.

We've even had crowds of sometimes 75 people with us in person

mass sighting with us.

Whoa, all seeing the same thing.

Yeah.

That's crazy.

I'll send you some videos.

No, that's not.

So are you able to capture them on video, though?

Absolutely.

All the videos I've seen, I mean, you did show me a pretty compelling photo earlier, but most of them are blurry, the ones I've seen on social media.

Right.

Yeah, no, we have we have plenty of videos.

But my point is, the government knows.

They know about the blood cells, right?

They know that there's something happening here.

They know that at this point there are hundreds of witnesses that have come and gone.

They have genuine, first-hand collected data coming to our property, interacting with us,

questioning us, seeing it for themselves.

Why don't they go publicly and ever acknowledge the positive stuff?

Why don't they ever say, hey,

maybe there is 5% potential negative experiences, but there's also this very positive phenomenon that exists.

They don't do that.

And the public and the media, they don't acknowledge us in that way.

They only want to acknowledge the negative.

So it makes you wonder why.

Why?

Why is it all negative?

Why are they trying to prevent the people from connecting with this phenomenon?

It reminds me of

virtually every awakened person throughout history, namely, you could say

Jesus, for example, who tried to help people connect with God and the divine, right?

And they killed him.

They suppressed him.

I suspect that throughout all of human history, there has always been some hidden hand that is trying to prevent people from connecting with the divine, right?

And I'm sure, you know, if you look at history, you could see tons of other sages throughout the past who tried to do the same thing and were killed or they were villainized or whatever.

I'm not saying we're sages or anything like that.

My point is I've thought a lot about this and realized this is why they don't want to connect people with this phenomenon because maybe it would help us.

Maybe it would benefit us, right?

I think that they have a lot to gain from preventing us from connecting with this phenomenon and trying to

make us think that it's scary and it's negative and malevolent, right?

So that's just my

perspective.

There's something there.

And when you look at these ancient civilizations and how advanced they were, a lot of them seem to have some sort of communication with aliens.

Yeah.

When you look at the structures of the buildings and everything.

Yeah, absolutely.

Like the hieroglyphs and all that stuff.

Petroglyphs out in Utah and the desert canyons.

I mean, so that's that connection's been almost severed over time, it looks like.

Yeah.

Throughout South America, there's petroglyphs.

And I mean, it's like, there's evidence all the, like, for example, Sean,

if you go to Ireland, right?

Just random little country out there that people don't typically associate with alien phenomenon, right?

And you go look in some of their really ancient caves.

They have depictions of these shining beings coming down

and giving messages to humanity.

They have this ancient depiction of fairies, right?

And we laugh when we think about fairies.

We think of pop culture, we think of a little Tinkerbell, you know, Navi from Zelda or something.

But that's not really the original depiction.

They were these mystical beings that could walk between worlds and they could come to us, you know, and interact with us.

Sometimes a little tricky.

Sometimes they might play a little prank on you.

Sometimes they might help you, right?

You look in the Middle East.

They have Jen, right?

These beings that appear from the smoke, right?

You can call out to them and they can help you.

They can intercess for you.

Or maybe there's some bad ones, some bad spiritual forces that can harm you.

Think of angels, right?

You go to Mexico, you hear stories of Quetzalcoat.

And, you know, there's this pattern of all over the ancient world, these cultures are talking about these shining things that come down from another place and they intercess with humanity.

I wonder why that's been lost over time.

Like someone seemed to have taken control somewhere in the middle, right?

Right.

And made it their mission not to promote that sort of messaging.

I suspect that that's someone, it's a very small group of people, right, who have amassed power over thousands of years, right?

And they don't want what's best for you and me.

They don't want you and me knowing that we can connect with something greater than them, something more powerful than them.

They want us to accept what they give us, accept the conditions that they set so that they can gain from us, so that they can retain their power.

And it goes deep, man.

It goes all the way back to the times of probably Babylon or even before that.

And,

you know, I'm trying to beat around the bush here, but I think you know what I'm talking about.

Oh, yeah.

You hear these, you hear about these organizations,

but they're so secretive, it's like...

And they are very much intimately involved in the ufo space wow i never connected those dots but that would make a lot of sense yeah

wow

i didn't know this dated back that far yeah crazy for example in the vatican right they have these um

thousands of thousands of texts that we don't have access to it's like 52 miles of library down there right

And they have accounts that we have never heard of of different saints and apostles and things interacting with angels.

And it's literally shining beings of light coming down.

They appear in a flash of light.

And they sometimes

deviate from the version that the Bible tells and add a little more details.

Like, for example, the Apostle Paul, right?

There's a story that he was...

I think it was on the road to Damascus, right?

To kill Christians.

He was killing Christians, literally.

And he sees this flash of light, right?

And he hears the voice of Jesus.

And it's like, basically, like, you know, the jig is up.

Now you're going to work for me, right?

I'm paraphrasing the story.

The Vatican has a different version that says that this being comes down,

this shining being, puts a thorn in his side, and when he tries to touch it, it moves all around his body.

He can't pull it out.

It sounds like an implant.

You follow me?

Yeah.

There's these different accounts throughout time that we don't have access to.

The point I'm getting here is I think that this UFO phenomenon is not some modern fascination.

I think in reality, it is the story of

us, who we really are,

and our place throughout the universe.

And I think it is a phenomenon that has always been here, that the elites, so to speak, have always been aware of.

And I think the game the whole time has been suppress this knowledge and keep us from connecting to it.

Wow.

And I suspect we're going to find that it might just

be more spiritual than people are immediately ready to accept, right?

Yeah.

Do you ever worry you're too close to the truth?

No.

You don't worry about it?

No, I don't.

Wow.

No.

I feel like that's a tough spot to be in, though, you know?

Yeah.

No, it is.

It definitely is.

Since I was,

gosh, I guess 15.

It's the first time someone knocked on the door from NASA.

And dude, I was like literally, I think I was on summer break from high school.

I was home on a weekday in my pajamas playing Fallout 3, right?

You know, just ordinary kid.

Yeah.

Um,

and

the doorbell rings, and I go answer the door, and it's this guy from NASA.

And he has this lapel on that says NASA Press Corps.

And he's like, hey,

my name is Hal Povenmeyer.

I just drove 12 hours from Cape Canaveral, Florida.

I'm looking for the Bledsoe residence.

Is this the Bledsoe residence?

And I'm like,

you know, let me call my dad, right?

And

call dad.

He's like, you know, keep him busy and I'll be home in an hour.

And from then on, they never left.

They have been in our lives, like literally just come and go, revolving door.

They call up.

They want to study.

They want to get data on us and all that.

And since that time, I've had certain people in these agencies tell me, since I was a child, you're going to be spied on your whole life.

You're going to be tapped.

You're going to be, we're going to have satellites over you guys watching you.

We're going to have people remote viewing you at all times.

I mean, I get the sense that they were very intentionally trying to,

I guess you could say, cause us children to be afraid to ever speak, to be paranoid, so that we would never go talk about this.

Right.

You know, put your phone in another room if you're having a conversation about this, but listen to your phone and all this and all that and i think when i hit 27 years old i realized it was all bullcrap and i didn't care anymore and that's why i started my show um and started going publicly and like speaking about things it took me a long time to sort of purge that trauma from my mind so you grew up really fearful oh yeah wow yeah you and your brother too

yeah all all my siblings and i mean it was like I can't speak to what was going on in their head, but for me, it was like, oh my God, they're watching me.

But I hit a point and I realized, no, that's what they wanted.

They did that to make sure that

I would never want to go speak.

And now I speak.

And

I don't know.

I mean,

I wouldn't have it any other way.

I wouldn't turn back.

Like,

I don't know.

Yeah, I think it's very important to get your message out, man, because no one else is really talking about what you're talking about.

Yeah.

You know, no, that's true.

That's true.

It's just like trying to inspire a little bit of positivity in people

to understand that maybe it's not so scary.

Maybe there is something special out there that is aware of us, that hears our thoughts, and

is rooting for us, wants to help us, right?

And

I mean, I don't know how deep you want to go into the story, but it's like

I

genuinely know that

when you pray, right?

Or when you when you send your thoughts out to God or the universe or, you know, the one consciousness, whatever background you come from, it doesn't matter.

That when you try to connect with this thing, that

something's listening.

Something's actually there.

And that something is aware of you and sees your struggles and sees, you know, what you're going through and is like trying to help you.

But you have to want to connect, right?

You have to willingly seek.

this other,

this spiritual thing, right?

And that's kind of what it's all about for me.

It's just trying to help people to understand that it's nothing to be afraid of.

Aliens aren't going to come eat you.

I'm waiting to see the data that there are aliens.

We don't genuinely have data.

What we have, the only

real

things

we have from the government are a couple of videos of blips on a radar, right?

Everything else is speculation.

So-and-so told me that there was a report in this classified room, you know, the skiff or whatever they call it, that, you know, people have been harmed.

So-and-so said,

my superior said that this, this, this missus, this missile silo was shut down.

You know, it's all speculation.

It's all you say.

There's no evidence that there's some negative alien force out there trying to hurt us.

You could say that there's,

you know, all these other

testimony, abduction stories, and all these, you know, different reports and things out there.

Great.

Where's the evidence?

It's still speculation at this point.

Where's the numerous video that these people are interacting with these phenomenon?

I haven't seen it.

Meanwhile,

you know, we've laid it all out on the table.

We've laid out hundreds of videos, hundreds.

We have thousands.

The problem is, you know,

how many can we put out till people are like, Okay, I understand what I'm seeing.

You know, these white dots in the sky, right?

And we're dripping these videos out.

And also the thing is, Sean, we are trying to get better quality video.

It's hard, you know, when you're looking at the night sky and you're seeing these, you know, white dots.

Yeah, and you're on an iPhone, yeah.

Yeah, right.

So we are trying to sort of ramp up

our capture quality there, too.

That's something that we're very seriously focused on right now.

But I'm just saying, man, where's the evidence?

We've laid it out on the table, right?

And we've said, anybody come, anybody come investigate, anybody come experience this with us.

And you can attest to this.

You can attest I'm telling the truth.

That I texted you on the way to Vegas and I said, hey, if you want to get together the night before and Skywatch, let's do it.

If I had something to hide, I wouldn't have done that.

I wouldn't have invited you out with me.

Good point.

You see what I'm saying?

Yeah.

You know,

my dad went on the History Channel and they came out and they said,

we have these AI cameras, right?

They're these UFO dApp machines.

There's like 10 of them in the world.

And they're connected to this AI software, right?

That runs a check on every flight database in the world.

Space junk, satellites, rockets, helicopters, airplanes, anything.

It can immediately, this camera has a 360-degree view of the sky.

It can immediately identify anything.

Ran against literally every flight database.

They came out to our property.

They're like, we're going to put that on your property.

We're going to hook an EEG cap to your brain, right?

To see what's going on in your brain when you see this thing.

and

thermal cameras all that stuff and they spent a week at our property and they got the data they they spent it was about six seven days they got over a hundred hours of footage naturally an episode on tv is 42 minutes so they had to cut it yeah way down

hundreds of hundreds of unknowns the computer unknown lights in the sky unknown Not space junk, not satellites, which is what a bunch of people out there say, you know.

And

we made ourselves completely vulnerable and said, we have nothing to hide.

Come out here and get the data.

And they did, you know, and they put it forward.

And

that's my point.

They're not doing that.

They're saying, you know,

there's this new book out, for example, imminent.

It says, you know, the blue orbs are scary.

They're negative.

They might harm you.

Stay away from them.

So now the talking point has shifted, not from, is it real or is it not real?

Now the talking point is, no, it is real, but this one might hurt you.

This, this one, stay away from this one if it's that color or that color.

You see where I'm saying, yeah, or what I'm

saying here?

That it's all about fear, it's all about trying to prevent us from connecting with it, right?

So

fascinating.

I see things differently.

No, that's good to know.

So when it comes to these orbs, because people say orbs with ghosts, too, right?

Yeah.

So is there some sort of linkage with that, you think?

There is.

You think so?

Yes.

I suspect that

when we die, we become one of these things.

I suspect that

the spirit,

or when I say the spirit, I don't just mean the human spirit, but I mean everything that lives has a spirit, right?

This is a very ancient philosophy that I didn't make up.

It's been around since time immemorial.

Actually, it's probably been around since before time.

You know, if you consider the whole Atlantis wisdom tradition thing.

But the idea that we have a spirit, right?

I suspect that when we die,

we go into this state where we can go where we want to go.

I think that we truly are immortal, that there is no death, there is no permanent death, that the physical existence we experience is a very small blip, right?

And the true existence is the invisible other world, the spirit world, right?

And I do think that when we die, we go into those orbs.

I think that animals die, they go into those orbs.

I've seen, you you know, like, for example,

one time my dog was hit by a car.

And my dad was at NASA at the time.

He was invited for a full-access private tour of NASA.

I'll show you pictures later.

And

so he was gone.

The dog gets hit by a car.

We didn't want to call dad up and ruin his trip.

And we're all panicking.

What do we do?

So I was in college at the time.

I skipped class that day.

I stayed home.

I buried her myself.

Sometimes shortly after, I don't know if it was that night or the next day or something, but my dad gets home.

He walks in the door.

He said, What happened to Nelly?

And immediately we break down.

You know, we didn't want to tell you you were gone, but she was hit by a car.

Point is that night, I take him to the grave, right, where I buried her.

And he sees an orb over her grave.

He takes a picture right over her grave.

And you look at that orb.

You zoom in on it.

And it has the face of a dog.

Whoa.

Telling you.

I'll show you the picture.

So I don't know.

I mean, I just, I've seen things that have informed the way that I view this differently than most, right?

And I think that these beings

are way more advanced than we are, right?

And that they can come and go as they please from this other place, this invisible spiritual world.

The orbs that they travel in,

we have seen them come out of them, right?

Sometime Sometime there can be an orb there, and then it'll start, you know, brightening up.

And next thing you know, it's projecting the form of this entity.

And sometimes they have messages.

Crazy.

And these messages, are they telepathic?

Yes.

So it just gets downloaded in your mind.

Yeah.

And that's how they communicate, too, right?

These aliens, whatever you want to call them, these light beings.

Yeah.

I just,

I think alien is a loaded word.

I don't know what to call them.

I say light beings.

I say beings, entities, phenomena, whatever.

It's something, right?

It's something.

It's not from here.

But

yeah, it's telepathic.

And we can get into that if you want, if you want to know what some of their messages were.

Please.

I think that's important for people watching this to know what these beings are telling you.

Okay, well, I just want to clarify that it's not that they're telling me this, that they told my father this, right?

But after growing up with him for so long, we've talked about it so many times.

I just

have a pretty

good idea of everything that they've ever said to him.

Okay, so in 2007, right,

the first time he experienced this phenomenon, right,

he saw these big,

I'm paraphrasing a little bit through the story because it's a long story, but he saw these big orange balls of fire, right?

He saw two of them.

Immediately he knew, okay, that is not the sun on the horizon.

This is something...

otherworldly.

He's freaking out.

He's panicking.

He's turning to run.

And then he looks back and a third one shoots up.

And the next thing he remembers, he's back at the campfire with the other guys.

He had no recollection that he was gone for four hours.

Whoa.

Right?

That came up later in the investigation.

So long story short,

the full story is in the book,

UFO of God.

But we end up getting investigated, right?

They send out like this Harvard psychologist by the name of Michael O'Connell, who was a student of John Mack.

which for any UFO heads out there, John Mack is like the most famous hypnotic regression guy, right?

He has books about abduction cases and stuff.

And he hypnotized his dad, and these memories start coming back.

It turns out he was gone for four hours, right?

And in that four hours,

they man-hunted him.

My brother went in the woods looking for him.

What he was shown and told was these beings are here to help us, right?

That they are the guardians of humanity,

that they serve creation.

They had a triangle on their chest that they said represents the Trinity.

And

they not only created us,

but that they tend to our evolution throughout time, throughout the aeons, so that we don't mutate or go out of control or go extinct or anything like that.

They're always helping us along the path.

of our progression, helping us move forward, and that they protect us from the forces of evil, That there are these pests out there that are this sort of negative phenomenon.

They're like a parasite that want to infect your mind, like just like your classic description of, you know, like demonic possession or something.

Yeah.

That

they seek to, you know, feed on us and possess us, and they keep those forces at bay.

And they showed him the pyramids, right?

Then we go to 2012, where he had his other profound experience.

Now, I'm going going to slow down a little bit about this one, and I'm going to tell it how it happened.

So this was five years from 2007 to 2012

of us

in the public being harassed, humiliated, mocked, all that stuff.

But in the private being studied by NASA.

Because NASA came knocking in like 08 or 09.

So we're kind of, you know, tail between our legs.

We're going forward with our experiences, but it's really rough.

Nobody wants to listen.

They're still happening.

Things are happening in the house.

We're seeing things run around, shadow beings and other little entities and all the orbs we're seeing and all this stuff.

It never went away, right?

But at one point in 2012, it was the Good Friday, which is, you know, the Friday before Easter.

My sister comes home from school crying.

Someone made a comment about, you know, your crazy dad or whatever.

And my dad said he had had enough and he never wanted to talk about this stuff again.

So, at some point that weekend, he goes out and he curses the sky and he says, You know, thank you for healing me.

I glossed over that part, but when he was taken in 07, he had Crohn's disease, and then he was in complete remission when he returned and never had it again.

Wow, incurable disease.

He says, Thank you for healing me, and

all that, but I'm done.

I don't ever want to talk about this again.

Just I'm done.

so the night of Easter

at three in the morning

He hears a voice that says arise

so he gets out of bed It instructs him to get dressed puts his clothes on he goes out to the backyard of our house and There's a being standing there just like he saw years before, you know when he was taken

and It handed him this little thing and this is gonna sound weird But it handed him this little thing.

It was like this little mass of

I guess you could say, flesh, and it had these spikes on it.

It said, this is your burden.

Don't lose this.

And dad's holding this thing, and it's like mashing at him.

It's like pricking him.

And he's, ah, you know, he doesn't want to hold it.

And he's trying to get rid of it.

And

he walks through our yard.

He finds this kennel that we have.

We're,

you know,

we're born and raised North Carolinians out there.

You know, a lot of people are into like hunting and fishing and that kind of thing.

So we have this big kennel for hunting hounds.

And, you know, at one point, there'd be 20 to 25 hounds in there.

So he gets this kennel and he throws it in there and he locks it up.

And a gust of wind hits him.

And he turns around, right?

And there's this bull, but it's ethereal.

It's like a ghost.

And it runs him over through the wind.

It knocks him on his back.

And he looks up and he sees the stars and everything through this bull.

And he's laying on his back.

And then he turns around.

He rolls over.

He gets up.

And by the time he's on his hands and knees propped up, he sees this lady.

She's floating there.

She has this white dress from her neck to her ankles.

It's twinkling like the stars.

She has blonde hair and blue eyes.

And she's glowing.

And she's floating, I don't know, you know, a few feet off the ground.

And she says, you know why I'm here.

And

she basically,

if I had to paraphrase,

she basically said that she was the divine feminine, that this is a great secret that's been hidden throughout all time, that, you know, the Catholics,

she didn't say the Catholics.

I'm just paraphrasing what I've come to understand, right?

That at one point, you know, in history, the Catholics came in and they took God and they made her a human, made her marry.

But

throughout the ancient past, they've all had some form of mother goddess or some divine queen of heaven or whatever.

So what she said was that it was a great secret that's been hidden for a long time, that there is a feminine aspect of the divine and that it's been suppressed and that we've been in a very warlike state and that this

will come to balance, right?

That when the force of the feminine comes to balance into the world again, that we will enter an age of peace, that there will be an awakening of consciousness and we will have a new knowledge and it basically will be the age of Aquarius.

She showed him the pyramids and the Sphinx.

She said that when the star Regulus aligns with the gaze of the Sphinx just before dawn in the constellation Leo, there will be a new knowledge.

Wow.

And dad is like, you know, what does all this mean?

We're Pentecostal Christians.

You see what I'm saying?

We're like fundamental Christians.

We don't know what any of this means.

She said, my name is Hathor, but throughout time I've gone by many names.

We've come to understand that, you know, they had Diana, Demeter,

Isis.

Hathor, Sophia, all these different figures in the ancient past that were revered, right?

She said that there is a dark force in power who is using the biblical book of Revelations as a script to manifest a cataclysm, that they're trying to kill us.

They're trying to destroy us.

And the more that they can get us to believe their agenda, the more we will accept and manifest what they want for us.

And she said that there are two forces, that there's love and that there's fear, and that the dark force uses fear and and that we are collectively in a state of fear, like a vibration.

Like if you had to think of the,

you know, the

vibration of collective consciousness, it's not very good right now, right?

I mean, I think we can all agree the world is crazy, and that this dark force is trying to keep us trapped in this way forever,

and that

there will be a great deception.

She said that they will try to

snuff out God, that they will try to remove God from,

to convince us God is not real, right?

And that there's this negative alien threat.

So.

Wow.

And that was in 2012.

2012, 2012.

And a lot of that seems to have played out.

Yeah.

Wow.

Yeah.

That's nuts.

And then you guys had another one in 2019, right?

Another encounter.

Yes.

And that was the third one.

Well, the third, you know, face-to-face, you know, whole message received thing.

There's been thousands of encounters going up in the sky or, you know, looking in the sky and seeing lights and things like that.

There's been dozens of encounters where, you know, for example, I've seen entities in my room.

I've seen them run across my apartment.

I've seen them in the yard.

But face-to-face, you know, behold, I got something to share with you, maybe three or four times.

Got it.

Yeah, so the third one was 2019, right?

And my dad was very sick.

At this point, he had rheumatoid arthritis.

He still does, but he's in remission, right?

And the doctors had him on this very toxic cocktail of medications, chemotherapy pills that were literally killing him.

And my dad was just in such a bad state.

I mean, his hands were so swollen, he couldn't even button his pants or tie his shoes or anything.

And I'm telling you, man, I never thought he was going to talk publicly again.

Which is part of the reason I did the podcast because I thought he was done forever.

And I was like, well, you know, someone's got to help him.

Thankfully, he went into remission.

So anyway, in 2019, it was at its worst.

He literally thought he was going to die.

He was warning us, I don't have much longer left.

Just very sick.

And he goes outside Easter weekend.

A lot of times, in fact, every year on the weekend of Easter since 2012, we've had some sort of crazy sighting or phenomenon appear or something like that.

I wonder why that timing specifically.

I mean, I could think of a few reasons.

You know, I mean, there's the whole, there's the, there's the story.

Easter is a holiday in pretty much every culture.

I mean, it's, it's, I think there's something very significant about the time.

I think

in ancient times, it was probably the beginning of the year, right?

Spring.

Right, because it was a different calendar back then, right?

Right.

Yeah.

And life comes forth.

If we think about, you know, this, this, if we think about Earth as this.

advanced being that that has a cycle that's that's a little different than ours, but it's still conscious.

I mean,

it dies and is born every year right there's something very profound about the changing of the seasons and the ancients venerated this with their mystery traditions i mean you know the druids and and uh the the elysian mystery traditions and all this stuff i mean they they took it very seriously these energies present at these equinoxes and solstices in fact i've been told by somebody

um

that NASA observes the equinoxes and solstices and these kinds of things when they launch rockets.

And, I mean, it's another rabbit hole to go down the Jack Parsons area if you want to look into, you know, origins of NASA and JPL and jet propulsion and how they were into the occult.

Wow.

Yeah, that's a long story.

That's a whole other podcast.

Yeah, it is.

Yeah, yeah.

But back to your story about the.

Yeah, yeah, okay.

I'm sorry.

Sorry to change it there.

But anyway, so 2019, right?

So I'm going to get to it.

So he's super sick.

He goes outside and he's just kind of doing what he normally does.

He has his camera.

He's looking at the sky.

I mean, we've been out there thousands of times.

There's 365 days in a year, 17 years.

My dad goes outside at least five nights a week if it's not raining.

I mean, you could imagine on an average of seeing anywhere from one to 50 orbs a night.

You could do the math.

He's seen thousands at this rate, and it's just a normal night.

So he goes out there.

He's doing his thing.

He's looking at the sky.

He's, you know, if there's anything up there or whatever.

And this big orange ball of light, right?

It appears from the woods to his right and over starts hovering slowly over the water because he lives on this small private pond.

Starts hovering over the water,

and he's like freaking out because it's getting so close.

Like, oh my god, like you can't help but react when something from another world is right in front of you.

It kind of heightens your, your, uh, your adrenaline.

And, you know, you start, your breathing can get shaky, and it's just really intense, right?

It's like a forced reaction.

Like when you see a car wreck or something, you know, you're whoa, it's like that.

So he kind of falls to his knees.

This thing is getting so close.

And it starts going up and down in a line,

this ball of light.

It starts going rapidly up and down in a line like this, about 10 feet in diameter.

And it starts cycling really fast.

Different colors like orange, red, yellow.

And it starts going so fast that an image of a being starts to project from this orb.

And it's like this, this...

is just a shining being of light.

And

it had, you know, like kind of anthropomorphic features.

It's not like it had a face or hair like the one in 2012, but it was a being.

And it basically said,

tough times are coming ahead.

Tough times are coming ahead.

We are now entering the period of tribulation.

And

you have

stuck true to your story.

you know, of what you've experienced.

You haven't turned your back on God or changed, right?

So we're going to help you.

We're going to bring you witnesses.

We're going to help you get better equipment.

And we're going to allow you to get data to show the world

and prove that it's real.

Yeah, and then a few months after that, COVID hit.

I was just going to say that.

Yep.

This was April of 2019.

And I think it was like January of 2020 was when COVID really kind of started breaking.

And then March, we hit the lockdown, you know.

And

interestingly enough, right?

I forgot forgot to mention this earlier, okay?

So this lady that I was telling you about from 2012, she didn't give a date.

She just said there's going to be an alignment when Regulus aligns with the gaze of the Sphinx, okay?

So dad tells this to his friends.

Someone from the Department of Defense comes and makes him write this all down so that he can take it to the Pentagon and then brief the president on this.

Whoa.

Yeah.

And

our friends in NASA go and they run this alignment through their simulations.

They have these advanced star simulation things.

I mean, it's NASA, right?

They have stuff we don't know about.

And they determined that this alignment happens in 2026.

Really?

Yes.

That's exciting.

Yep.

Interestingly enough, if you look at the biblical story of Revelation, which again,

considering the idea that the dark force may be using this as a script, right?

It says that there would be a period of about seven or seven and a half years of tribulation before the light comes in and, you know, gets rid of the darkness darkness and we're in a time of peace

2019 to 2026 how many years is that holy crap seven

that's nuts yeah so 2026 that'll be the year where things turn around you think yeah i do that's exciting i really do that's in two years right yeah well a little less a year and a half or so right so we've come to think that there there's there's two opinions from some of these people and and these agencies and i suspect that maybe they give us different dates to try to throw us off.

I suspect that maybe it'll be either Easter or, so it's either going to be

like the Easter equinox,

the alignment, right?

The spring equinox, or sometime in August, which would make sense to me because Leo is August, right?

And she said when it aligns in the constellation Leo, so maybe.

We've been given

basically fall or spring.

equinox or solstice.

That's what NASA said that the alignment might happen.

So it's like, I don't know for sure.

I don't care.

I live my life just understanding, you know, it doesn't really matter to know ahead of the time what the date is.

Just

understanding that something's coming.

Now, Sean, if you studied the UFO story at any length, and I don't mean you, I just mean anybody out there, right?

They would know that there are many people from intelligence agencies coming forward now.

Like, for example, Lou Elizondo.

He's kind of the big face of this, right?

He just put out that book, Imminent, that I was referring to earlier with the scary blue orbs that they, you know, claim are hurting people.

Or you have other people in intelligence agencies.

And something that you'll notice when you hear these people speak is they say, something's imminent.

Some sort of shift is imminent.

We think by the year 2027, something's going to happen.

I've heard other people say, no, it's the year 2025.

Are you seeing what I'm putting down here?

Yeah.

Now people from the government are coming forward and saying, everybody, there's going to be an impending consciousness shifting event at either this year or this year or this year.

We're not sure, but something's imminent.

Why are they saying that?

Is it because they have these reports from Chris Bledsoe all the way back from 2012 saying that these beings came down and said there's going to be a shift in consciousness when this alignment occurs?

Now, all of a sudden, in the last two years, they're talking about an imminent shift.

You see what I'm saying?

Interesting.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So they withhold it for the right time.

Yeah, but also the point is they're kind of acknowledging what we're saying in a way.

Yeah.

Even though they're trying to spin it a different way, it's like that, you know, get ahead of it, right?

My point is, I think that something

is really going to happen.

I think there's really a shift that's happening now.

As a matter of fact, I think it's already happened.

I think there is a consciousness shift right now.

I kind of feel it.

It's hard to describe, but there's an eclipse tomorrow.

Really?

Yeah.

Wow.

So that'd be a good day to go out there and see what's up there.

Absolutely.

Nice.

Yeah.

Check it out.

I think since the April eclipse, this, this, you know, the

one that was like the same week of Easter, I think that that was a very, very significant event.

I think that we are right now and going to be unfolding for the next few years,

going through radical shifts in consciousness as a whole, as a whole race.

I think, you know, I just flew in from North Carolina yesterday and God forbid, I mean, this, I don't know if you've even seen the news, but there was this horrible storm in North Carolina.

Oh, I saw that.

It's devastated.

I'm on the East Coast, but it all happened on the western side of North Carolina.

And I mean, I'm telling you, man, like entire cities are leveled, wiped out.

It's,

yeah, it's bad.

There's, there's like hundreds of thousands of people without power, without cell service, without internet, without food.

Buildings are floating down the street.

Dude, it's like literally the end of the world.

I thought it was Florida.

So North Carolina got hit too.

Florida, North Carolina, Georgia, Tennessee.

It's 600 miles of devastation, dude.

Damn.

It's like, it's like literally, they're saying it's a once in a thousand year storm that

it's going to take billions and billions of dollars and years to recover from this.

So my point is,

I think things like this are happening

because we're going through such powerful shifts in consciousness.

I think that the earth is this really advanced being that

something that this this lady that you know you could say hathor or whatever we just say the lady because it's easy and we don't necessarily like to ascribe a name to her even though she did give some names, right?

So the lady said

that the earth is a being, right?

And

it is encoded to protect itself and rid itself from evil.

That if the force of darkness and fear gets too great, that

maybe it might just shake us off.

Wow.

So I don't say that to, you know, make people afraid or to incite fear or anything, but my point is I think that the earth is going through these powerful changes as there is this rapid shift in consciousness and people all around the world are waking up.

Right.

And I think that what we're seeing right now is like a genuine,

like, I'm not exaggerating or being metaphorical.

I think there is a literal war between

good and evil spiritual forces taking place.

And I think that's why, you know, disasters are happening around the world.

And I don't have to, you know, get all into things that are happening in the public space, but I think people know what I'm talking about.

Yeah, that is so fascinating because when you look back at history, humanity has been wiped out a few times.

So this could be a result of that, and now it looks like another spiritual war is upon us.

Yeah, I don't think we're going to be wiped out, though.

I think it's a happy ending.

Nice.

I think, you know, if we're going by the idea that,

okay,

so think about it like this.

I'm not a fundamentalist Christian, right?

I grew up Christian.

I have a lot of respect for my background.

I think Jesus is great.

I don't necessarily believe anymore that you have to like believe in Jesus to go to heaven, but I understand that there's a lot of wisdom in the Bible.

And my views have kind of changed after seeing lights in the sky my whole life.

I have a different view on things, but my point is,

if you look at the story of

Jesus.

The story of, you know, Palm Sunday, when they're throwing the leaves down and they're saying, Hosanna, he's riding in on a donkey.

I'm not sure if you're familiar with the story, but he's saying that, okay,

so the old scrolls or scriptures or whatever word it says in the Bible say that the king of kings will ride in on an ass and he will be praised as the son of God.

You know, Hosanna, they'll welcome him into the city.

So then he says, all right, I'm going to ride in on an ass.

He knew this ancient prophecy.

He sits down on his donkey and he rides in on the city and he made it come true.

So what I'm getting at is that's how these elites do this.

They know these prophecies.

They know that we believe them, but collectively, you know, mankind to some degree believes these prophecies.

So they take these events and they force them to play out in the public sector

so that we will manifest these outcomes into reality.

Okay, so if this is the playbook that they're using, well, there's a pretty happy ending.

It's bad for a while.

You know, there's things that go on.

And then on the other side, it's, it's,

God wins in the end.

So I, I don't sit around thinking, you know,

it's not going to get better.

It's, you know, anything like that.

I, I, I think that actually really good times are ahead.

And I think that the bad things that are happening now are

like the final stages of the dominoes falling.

You know?

Yeah.

I love that.

Yeah, we can end it on a positive note there.

Sure.

That's really cool for people watching this.

Um, Ryan, where can people find the podcast, your books and everything?

Okay, so the podcast is Bledso said so.

It's just pretty much across the board, you know, Instagram, YouTube, Spotify, Apple.

My dad has a best-selling book called UFO of God.

It tells our story all the way up till now, you know, modern times.

And

that's basically it.

Cool.

We'll link it all below.

Thanks so much for coming on, man.

I can't wait to check the skies out with you one of these days.

Yeah, let's do it.

Let's do it, man.

Thanks for watching, guys.

Check out the links below.

I will see you next time.