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12:32 - Mark Cuban's Jump Shot
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And I was working on Jeff Withey.
He was in the NBA, a big guy, and he comes in with Carmelo Anthony.
And Melo's wearing this hoodie and hoodie mellow.
That is where it was born.
Oh, Black Ozair.
It's sweatpants tucked into his socks.
And me and Jeff are like, what is this guy doing?
This is goofy.
Like, literally, like the next week, hoodie mellow was the thing.
All right, guys, we finally made it happen.
Got Dave and Ness here today.
It's been a year we've been trying to do this, right?
Yeah, we have been going back and forth on Instagram messages, trying to schedule, and it's been my fault to
traveling too much.
You're good, man.
I'm very pumped for this as a huge basketball fan.
You've trained some of the best.
Over 150 clients now, right?
Yeah.
That's impressive.
Who was the first big client for you?
You know, the first big client is an interesting one.
So he was a high school player, and
my friend coached in the Bay Area, Archbishop Midi.
He's like, hey, I've got this stud player.
He's going to be a top 10 draft pick when he goes into the NBA.
Do you want to come work him out?
And I was doing basketball camps at the time.
I just got done playing overseas.
My overseas playing was more like a Will Farrell semi-pro league than it was an actual like close to the NBA.
So I'm like, yeah, of course, I want to get into NBA training.
And I go up there and I had this moment of
just not feeling like I was able to do it.
It's kind of like a...
Confidence.
Yeah, just a confidence of imposter syndrome, really, man.
And I walk out.
I don't do it.
I don't go work this guy out.
My friend's like, hey, we're going back there tomorrow.
We're going to film this thing.
We're going to send it out to agents and NBA teams.
The player was Aaron Gordon.
Oh, why?
So I was doing workouts for Aaron Gordon.
He was awesome.
We send this video out to agents and teams.
I start working out more players, doing pre-draft.
So the first guy, you can look back on YouTube and have a laugh.
I've got these baggy shorts on and this big oversized polo.
Yeah.
Aaron Gordon was the first guy.
Dude, that's legendary.
What he's doing on the Nuggets now is awesome.
Yeah.
Did not teach him anything to do with Donkey, but but
yeah, because he was nice on the magic, right?
Yeah, Master
years.
But then his transition to the role player, because he was the best person on the Magic.
And a lot of people struggle to make that transition as a role player.
Yeah, yeah.
So, I mean, it's, yes, it's kind of transferred from there of training NBA players individually led to coaching with the Brooklyn Nets.
Now, it's an interesting dynamic coaching with a team.
Most people think, like, that's the ultimate.
But, I mean, it is and it isn't.
If you're with a good culture and good, great coaching staff, it is.
But a lot of the players, you would think, like, they don't actually really want to work out.
I like doing what I do now because the players will come to you.
They seek you out instead of you trying to have to go drag them into the gym.
Interesting.
And it's one of the biggest difference makers, man.
I have this thing I call it, literally, it's do I drag you to the gym or do you drag me?
It's one of the first things in the first 10 minutes with a player, I can tell if they have the potential to be great.
So the story that I tell with that, I used to do NBA NBA pre-draft.
That's when the guys are coming out of college and they're getting ready for the pros.
I did it for Wasserman Agency, so we'd have a lot of big names.
But we had this guy who was kind of mid-level.
He was a freshman from Kentucky.
You know, it wasn't really hyped up.
But the very first workout with these players, we try to crush their soul, like see what they're made out of, see how tenacious they are, and just put them through this killer workout.
Most guys want to go back to locker room or pass out on the floor.
And
this kid comes up to me afterwards.
He's like, When are we going tonight?
Like, he wants more.
Whoa.
This player?
Shea Yogis Alexander.
Wow.
From that moment, I was like, this guy is special.
He's going to do something great.
And now he's probably one of the best players in the NBA.
He almost won MVP this year.
Should have.
I think he got second, right?
He got second, but he won the SB for best player.
Wow.
Yeah, people think he came out of nowhere, but they don't see that behind the scenes.
And that's the thing.
That's what's the cool thing about training the NBA players.
You see behind the scenes of, you know, who actually loves training.
And that, like Domas Sabonis, in 2020, when the world shut down, he came out to LA.
All the gyms were shut down in LA.
We found these like old little Jewish community centers and snuck in at 7 a.m.
every morning.
But he's not posting that on social media.
It's that type of differentiator that stands out a lot.
Have you ever trained Kobe?
No, man.
I would love, but I've got some great Kobe stories.
Oh, you do?
I've got some great guys.
I've got one of them.
Let me give you this one.
So, first off, I'll give you two.
I'll give you two to set the stage.
So, a buddy of mine was a head Nike marketing guy for 20 years.
He's a guy who landed Kobe, landed LeBron, landed KD.
He said KD, when they were landing KD, I mean, he's out in Baltimore, Under Armor's pitching him hard.
They went out to Baltimore, rented this van, picked up chicken and iced tea, and went around with all his boys to all his old basketball gyms and just hooped.
Wow.
Was that KD's the chillest, just a pure hooper?
All right.
Kobe.
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Right, Kobe wanted to know like everything that went into the shoe.
He wanted he was studying sharks.
They'd fly with helicopters above the water to watch how sharks move.
Like what?
He said he was one of the most just absolute genius human beings this guy had been around.
LeBron said was the most difficult person I know.
So they finally got the deal done at Akron at Diner, but they never actually got to talk to LeBron.
And LeBron was like 17 or 18.
Really?
Kind of tells you a little bit right there.
But so setting the stage in this Kobe story of how just incredibly smart he is.
This is a story, by the way, of Chip Kelly, the football coach.
He was telling me this last year.
And when he was out in Philly, he said, Richard Hamilton, who's, you know, had a good career, and Kobe were in high school.
They had this AAU tournament coming up where you could be ranked.
So
Richard Hamilton said, hey, Cobe, like, if you perform well this weekend, you're going to get ranked.
And that's a huge thing for high school.
And so Richard goes out and plays really well, gets like a top 15 ranking, something like that.
And Kobe, 15 years old, shot every shot with his left hand that weekend.
What?
With his left hand.
And Rip was like, Coke,
what are you doing?
You just blew this opportunity.
And Kobe said, no,
here's the difference between me and you.
You want to be the best in this class.
I want to be the best
of all time.
Wow.
At that age, to have that kind of
vision and self-awareness.
Dude, that's legendary.
So he wanted the heat so he could be motivated more.
Yeah.
And I think he's the greatest mindset coach that doesn't get credit for being a mindset coach.
There's a, I don't even know if I'm able to say this, but I know somebody has collected all of the Kobe mindset and they're going to put it out.
It's going to be a book.
Well, it's going to be amazing.
That's awesome.
Yeah, that needs to be studied for athletes growing up.
Well, that's, I mean, with my athletes, I send them on Instagram.
You'll find the right ones.
I send them just a lot of those type of quotes right in there.
Yeah, he doesn't get credit for the mindset stuff, right?
No, no.
And I feel like players these days, I don't know if it's because of social media, but it's not as prepular.
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, 2Ds, they're amazing.
Yeah.
Amazing.
There's a lot of, I get it, because there's a lot of social media trolls now.
So these players are coming home after a bad game, and T'Angelo also hops on Twitter, and people are shitting on him.
It's crazy.
Like, one of the biggest things that coaches struggle with in the NBA nowadays is halftime with players getting on social media.
Don't you think that just sounds crazy?
But every team that players get on social media, my boy Chauncey Phillips just put something out on a podcast, I think like two days ago.
Said one of his players, they were 18 points down at halftime, but he caught his player posting a dunk of his in the first half that they were down
you can't wait 20 minutes it's crazy but that's also the thing of like that's the differentiator in mindset too of if you look on social media at halftime it's either going to you know it's probably not going to do you any good but it can do you a big detriment yeah for sure it's all how you i guess interpret it right when you were with the nets what year was up 2015 2016.
Was that when Ben Simmons was there?
Just before that.
So it was Joe Johnson, Brooke Lopez.
Got it.
That was the older team, right?
Yeah, but they did decent.
I think they were the eighth seed.
Yeah, we were okay.
We didn't make the playoffs that year.
They made the playoffs the year before, and then that was kind of like where the big garnets, Paul Pierce, like one of the worst trades in NBA history.
Oh, you think that was one of the worst?
I would say it's up there.
It's one of the worst.
Just based on what, because you know, Jason Tatum, and he came from that trade.
Oh, I didn't know that.
Oh, so they gave up a pick?
They gave up a lot of picks.
They gave up like their future of that trade.
Dude.
Yeah, so that's one of the worst, so I was in there to develop them.
And it's funny, man.
Like when you think about, you know, being with an NBA thing, like, oh, it's got to be amazing.
But it's egos are
like so prevalent in anything in any competition, business, or sports, even with the coaches.
Like, I would work out some players because I was kind of, you know, I was green.
I was like, you know, I just love helping guys working out.
I'd have assistant coaches be like, what are you doing?
Don't touch that guy.
That's my guy.
Right.
What?
And then the trainer would literally want to have an impact and hold players out.
So he felt like he had
a lot of ego, right?
A ton of ego.
And you were a shooting coach?
Shooting coach, yep.
Got it.
I've seen lethal shooter videos.
I just saw his recent one where people always asked him how much would you average in the NBA?
And he actually only said like six points, I think.
Yeah, I respect his honesty of that.
I mean,
I would have to say who.
Can he play defense?
I mean, there's two ends of the game.
Right.
But yeah, if he was spotted up in the corner, he might.
He might be able to.
Yeah.
I think he's done a really good job relationally watching those guys like Brickley and
Leco Shooter.
They're just really good relational people.
I'm sure they're good trainers.
Obviously, I'm not saying no.
I think they've done a great job building the business.
I think some of the best, though, are the ones you don't see.
Like, there's many guys that I know are just phenomenal.
Like Chip England doesn't have a social media.
I never hear of him.
He's a guy who built Kawhi.
Tony Parker.
Wow.
He was a secret firm.
The Spurs.
He's now with the Thunder.
Probably the best shooting coach in the news.
Wow.
And now the Thunder are killing it.
So there's something there.
Holy crap.
Yeah, I see Chris Brickley everywhere.
That guy's kind of revolutionized his face, right?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Was he the first kind of social media trainer?
I think so.
I think he's the first big one, right?
I remember doing a workout in
Beverly Hills High School, and I was working on Jeff Withey.
He was in the NBA, a big guy, and he comes in with Carmelo Anthony.
And Mello's wearing this hoodie.
Hoodie Mello.
That is where it was born.
Oh, Bracket was there.
Its sweatpants tucked into his socks.
And me and Jeff are like, what is this guy doing?
This is goofy.
Like, literally, like, the next week, hoodie mellow was a thing.
He didn't want to be recognized, right?
That's why he did it.
Yeah, yeah.
That's funny.
Yeah, that was a fire on me.
Yeah.
And I think that's kind of one of the things that sparked Chris.
But he's just, you know, he's got a spot in New York.
And he's,
if you're good, the main thing I see with trainers is if you can garner a player's trust, you probably can trade them.
That's all about trust.
Do they really, like, do they trust you with their livelihood?
Yeah, that's important.
How's Mark Cuban's jump shot?
I worked with him on court.
I wasn't even on court, yeah, before the Dallas Mavericks game, unknowing that it was him.
Oh, what?
Yes, so Stark Tank wasn't big at the time.
Oh.
And like, I didn't know Mark Cuban.
It was kind of just Shark Tank was coming out.
He gave me his business card afterwards.
Obviously, I'd looked at it and then like, oh my gosh, this is Mark Cuban.
He owns the Mavericks.
And I emailed him the day after just thanking him.
And he got back to me in like two minutes.
Wow.
So it's it's like, I tell that story and talks a lot of the power of serving people without expecting anything in return.
Like, I was just helping this guy with a jump stride because he wanted to work on his jump stride.
Right.
And then it turned out he comes back to like, hey, he's a friend.
I can, I'll send him business ideas.
He's never said yes to one yet.
But
he said no to me, too.
I'm sent him at least one, maybe two.
But he has, I've heard, invested in like cold email outreach.
Oh, God, I think he probably will.
I mean, he takes them seriously.
Yeah.
Like, I mean,
he used to to send me back long responses now he's
well now he just got four billion dollars richer so i think his time is a little more valuable these days
i was surprised when he sold yeah those two yeah i thought because he's known for like being that guy at the mavericks yeah but i think he'll probably still be that guy right yeah he'll probably still have a hand in it
they made a good run this year Interesting.
I thought they'd take it a little bit longer.
I just thought their toughness was just next level.
Yeah.
And I mean, they must have just ran out of steam.
I think they did.
I really liked their centers, how they played with energy.
Brought a little spotlight to the center for that because the centers have been kind of.
It goes like that.
Like the Andre Jordan and vertical spacing is what they call it.
So they know that lob can come.
It sucks inside.
Then they have shooters.
It kind of went away for a while.
Right.
But now they're kind of bringing the Dallas back.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Now the centers have to shoot threes.
Have to, which is crazy.
I at least have to be a threat.
Yeah.
I mean, think about Al Hodfer.
Like when he came, that dude couldn't shoot a lick.
Bam out of bio.
I saw him in his pre-draft workouts.
Like, that dude couldn't shoot it off.
Now he can shoot.
Oh, my gosh.
These are lights off.
The development.
Like, it's crazy.
And
even LeBron's shooting threes now.
Yep.
Well, he's getting older, so he kind of has to.
But they just did a vote on the best player on the USA team yesterday.
And he got five votes.
He got the most votes.
He got the vote of the best player.
So far in the preseason games.
I guess so.
I mean, he's kind of brought him through down the lire, right?
He's won two games single-handedly pretty much last minute.
What do you think about that?
What do you think about about usa versus the world the development like the vision of the future that's scary everyone's catching up they i don't know if the win is here dude they had a couple close games already it's not that given yeah well do you what do you think about like i mean you see the the development in france uh i mean what's coming in africa yeah i do you think that's uh
i think it's a threat dude i mean We have the most talent, obviously, but these countries just like the way they play with the synergy because they've been playing playing together their whole lives is like kind of competing with it yeah and i think so too a good friend of mine bj armstrong was a point guard with jordan on that team he's he's been over there he's he's kind of a visionary thinker and he's he's like dude you would not believe this but there's guys walking around that look like yannis and they're starting to get into development programs like they're going up to pairs that's why they've had the last two number one draft picks like he's there's it's going to be more and more yannis like that wow dude it's crazy i get crazy videos on my Instagram.
It's kind of random, but these guys in Africa are like pogo sticks the way they jump.
I'm talking like a foot.
Dude, I did a camp down there a long time ago, like 12 years ago.
I did some camps in Kenya and Uganda.
And I kid you not, they came down from all over, no shoes on, like seven foot tall.
I have no idea how old they were, and they were just flying over.
It's wild.
It's wild.
That's nuts.
It's scary for any short, unathletic white guys than everyone.
You got to probably be 6'6 now to make the league going forward.
And that's for any position.
Well, hey, speaking on LeBron, who is the greatest of all terminate?
I think this is one of those fun.
This is one of those fun debates.
You can go,
I mean, both sides can go for days.
I think LeBron still has a chance to get that title.
What do you think puts him over the top?
One or two more chips, and if he can win this gold medal and be the best player on the team.
Yeah.
Okay, one or two more.
You think?
Yeah, what do you think?
Yeah, I think there's a camp that's never going to let him have it.
right right i mean just for i think it's an interesting thing and i've got a little different take on it um in terms of like jordan came at a time when the nba needed somebody to to progress it forward like when it was really like nothing and then it became having nike played a big role in that i mean you can create a character you can create a brand obviously he's phenomenal i would probably put him as the greatest you know
yeah greatest change maker of all time in a sport but i pound for pound skill set and also the impact that he's had on the league, I think Steph Kurd
needs to be in that conversation.
Think about this.
The game wasn't shooting threes like they are today, analytically.
It was still throw the ball into the big man.
And well, Steph changed that.
And Steph, I mean, he literally took a team that was, you know, terrible, turned them into a dynasty.
They were bought, I think when he was a rookie or in first year by Joe Laco for like $450 million.
Wow.
They thought it was a crazy buy.
They're valued at $7 billion there.
Crap, so they're like 15X or 17X.
I don't think there's a player that has done what Steph has done to transform an entire sport, which I don't think gets talked about as the greatest of all time.
And skill set-wise, tell me a better best shooter ever.
I mean, is anybody better like ball handling from the dribble to a shot?
Skill set-wise, he's got to be right up there as the best of all time.
Yeah, I never hear him in the debate.
I'm not sure why.
That's a valid point, though, what he's done.
I think if he can get one or two more, he'll probably be, you know, in that conversation way more.
Like, he's at four now, right?
I think so, yeah.
And LeBron's at four.
So, yeah, he should be in MR.
That is surprising.
Yeah.
Let's see how he does in this Olympic round, and let's see how he does without Clay, too.
It's a good port.
Because Clay was there the whole time.
That's a good point.
What do you think of Klay Leesnam?
I don't know.
I mean, I guess he has to do it for a fresh start.
the media kind of just got way down on him.
I mean, he's coming back from multiple injuries.
The true worst, apparently.
I mean, Burger House.
Yeah.
I mean, I think he still would have been a great asset, but maybe not to the capacity he was in his prime.
Right.
I don't think many people are still in their prime after, whatever, 14 years in the league, you know?
He didn't seem to want to embrace that bench roll, that six-man roll.
Yeah.
Probably needs a fresh start.
Yeah, we'll see.
Where'd he go to?
Dallas.
Oh.
Which makes it interesting, right?
Whoa.
There's a lot of ball-dominant players on that team.
Yeah.
Kyrie and Luca.
Floor Spacer.
He doesn't need the ball.
Right.
Yeah, he's a catch new guy anyways.
Yep.
Okay, so they might make a run again this year.
I would assume so.
Damn.
I would assume I'm putting money on my uncle's Sixers.
If MB stayed healthy, I think, I mean, they made some good offseason moves.
If MB can stay healthy, who they pick up?
Paul George.
And they got Caleb Martin, who's a tough, tough-nosed defender from Miami.
Obviously, they got Tyrese Maxie signed again.
They got a couple other role players.
Yeah, so they got big three.
Yeah, they can beat the Celtics without squad inning.
If Paul George stays healthy,
I mean, it all comes out of the health, but there's a lot of bangs in the end.
Yeah, useful.
Yeah, you wonder how many championships were won because the team stayed healthy, right?
Yeah, yeah.
That's funny you say that.
I was with Leonke when they won the championship in 2019 with the Raptors of the Warriors, and
they were coming back.
Golden State was coming back, and then Clay blew it out.
Same with LeBron on the
Calves when Carvey went out and kept it.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
I feel like they would have won that year with them.
Probably right.
You know, because the Warriors were so young that year.
So, yeah.
And staying healthy is super important.
And that's why we're at Next Tough Labs right here.
Good little pluck for them.
I love it down here, though.
Did your optimization?
Oh, dude, they're the best.
Dude, I spent like a two-hour thing before I filmed yesterday.
I felt amazing.
Getting that red light charger.
Red light, IV, oxygen, solid.
Cryo, I lasted the whole time this time.
It's a whole interesting thing, right?
Like, I feel like a new hot thing is...
How can you live healthy till like 150?
Right.
I don't know.
I don't know.
If you can push over 120,
that's close to the world record.
I think.
Yeah.
I think it's close to the world record.
And there's something in the Bible.
I don't remember where it says man will live to like 120.
Right.
So, I mean, is that playing God of trying to be able to crack that?
Well, there are like these genetic things where, yeah, you're not supposed to technically live past 120 the way we're programmed because there's so many toxins.
We're not even hitting 100 anymore.
Yeah.
You know, so that's what we were talking about earlier, too.
Like, we're here in LA or wherever you're at.
You're probably getting all these toxins in you.
Yeah.
So you're basically just playing for for a tie.
And you can't even see them these days.
They're in the air.
5G, Wi-Fi.
Here's my goal, and I stand by this, is move to a villa in Tuscany, Italy, all in life.
That's your
plan.
Yeah.
You should actually look up houses over there or villas.
Yeah.
They're not crazy.
I mean, they're expensive, but they're like $6 million for a 22-bedroom, 18-bathroom.
I'm telling you.
If you split that with a couple people.
I'm telling you, there's some deals over there.
Dude, that's not bad.
Find out two, three people will split it with.
You won't even see them in a.22 better mouse.
Right, exactly.
Damn.
Shout out to Italy, man.
You've been out there?
Yeah, I've been a couple times.
It's amazing.
Yeah, I got to get out there.
Yeah.
Amalfi Coast.
That's a blue zone, right?
Might as well be.
Yeah, somewhere in Italy.
I think it's Sardinia is the blue zone, yeah, which is close to the Amalfi Coast.
Yeah, I had a mob guy on.
His dad left a 103, dude.
Michael Franzisi's dad.
Michael Franzisi has you had on?
He came on yesterday, yeah.
Ho ho ho, wow, okay.
Yeah, speaking agent is one of my speaking agents.
Oh, yeah, yeah, small world.
You're cool.
Yeah, you're one of the top 50 speakers in the world right now.
Yeah, I would say number one.
I'm going one more to know.
You know, it's one of those things, like, if you get on a list, you say, that's dope.
Some of these lists are losing their appeal, man.
Like, I used to, when someone said they got on Forbes like five years ago.
Oh, bro.
Wow.
Any list, like, even as being an author, you see the behind the scenes of it.
Like,
There's so many things that are pay-for-play that you haven't.
Or it's hardly anything's pure any war.
In life, I think, there's always some initiative in the background, or if you're trying to get on a list, it's it's it was my favorite one is when people post their picture in Times Square where it goes on the big jumbo board and they're standing there at Perfect Time.
I'm like, wait, you just randomly knew that they were going to post it for you?
Like, you're not fooling anybody.
Dude, I've done that photo and I got the Bill War for free.
It's not even.
even oh you did that's amazing yeah but it's not even like a big like people think it's a huge deal you know what i mean to get this is just like a second that goes by you could pay a thousand bucks for that yeah all right you know cool picture yeah no it's definitely a flex like it's like the normal person would see that and i posted on instagram and got a ton of engagement but i got it for free i mean i just yeah it's not that expensive there's a lot of things like that you know force 30 under 30 i used to really care about is that one thing to two see i mean you can buy you could pay to get on that i know people that have done it if i'm 37 can i still get there's a 40 under 40.
I wanted a 30 under 30.
Yeah, I feel like that's the best one.
Like, there's 20 under 20, but who cares about that?
Yeah, man.
40 under 40, you're kind of
midlife crisis.
30 under 30, like you still have potential, dude.
That's slowly money.
Anything you're trying to achieve, though, that you haven't yet?
I think a lot of things.
Love that myself.
Man, I just kind of like.
Trying new things, trying to conquer new areas, you know, NBA coaching and speaking and writing books.
I want to, my wife's in the acting and producing space.
Now, I'm not going to say, hey, I'm going to drop everything and try to go act.
I want to do some kind of thing in a show.
I've got some ideas and some concepts that we're working on.
Now, as you know, in LA, everybody and their cousin has a show they're developing.
Yeah.
So I say that with a grain of salt.
That's another thing.
Just kind of continuing to grow to is being like the go-to guy for mindset and high performance.
If like us athlete needs someone to go to or
a corporation or a leader,
like the hired gun for that.
That's needed, man, because these athletes, some of them go through these mental hurdles and they never get out.
It's a lot.
There's been a few major ones recently.
Yeah, and they speak out about it now, and it's interesting.
So I think the disconnect there is teams have psychiatrists, but athletes don't want to go to a psychiatrist.
One, they don't know the sport, but two, they're hired by the team.
And if the GM says, hey, go see the psychiatrist, what's that saying?
Oh, we think you're messed up.
Like, they're going to obviously report to who they're paid to.
It's just a whole, it's a, they're checking the box with it.
I don't think they're missing a lot that could help a lot of athletes.
Yeah, so what do you think the better system would be if an athlete is struggling mentally?
I think it's better if you, like, Yodanis Hasle, for example, played for the Heat and he was kind of just around the team for a long time.
Hiring somebody like that, that the players will look up to and respect as being on staff and they can go to him.
He knows the game.
He can talk to them.
Someone who has that that kind of acumen with the background of the sports.
Right.
Yeah, the mental hurdles, it's interesting because they're still athletic.
They still have the ability, but they're just a block, right?
It's a block, but I think it's so, I mean, it's heightened now, right?
In 2012, when the social media thing kind of started going, and
there's now this
generation that's grown up with social media.
So it's such an interesting dichotomy of do these people live and die with what they hear from others from the outside world or can they actually block it out?
And
it's kind of like, can you or can't you?
And I mean, social media obviously is a great tool, but it's also can be just like anything, it's like AI or the internet or a hammer is an amazing tool to build a house.
It's also the deadliest murder weapon.
How do you use these types of things?
And I don't think there's been much regulation on it, really, right?
Not at all.
I couldn't go.
No.
You can say whatever you want.
You can say whatever you want.
You can put whatever you want.
Like parents these days, it seems more like you want to protect your kid and keep him in the house, but then they keep him in the house and they go on this whole entire other universe called social media, which is more dangerous than putting you out.
Oh, you are.
Yeah, I'd rather let my kids play outside.
That's what we did.
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah, I didn't have phones going off.
I thought these kids have iPads at eight years old.
It's dangerous, man.
You just don't know where it's going to stop.
It's a danger.
Like, there's no horizon that says this is going to slow down.
Yeah.
A lot.
LeBron has done great at ignoring the hate.
yeah what's wrong has and i think his son has done quite hate yeah i'm actually really impressed yeah he's getting interviewed every five minutes he seems annoyed yeah i mean but he hasn't done anything that's been like you know off the rails or anything he just takes it because he's getting so oh my gosh that's the most hype i've seen in a while hype and hate
Well, people are always like, why'd he get in the league?
But LeBron, I mean, if you were in LeBron's position, you'd do the same thing.
Absolutely.
You know, it happens in business, too.
It happens in everything.
Everything.
And it's just at a height and scale.
But what's Bronnie supposed to be?
Say, like, no, you know, I bake it.
Like, I'm not going to do it.
I'm going to go to the G-League or not play bass.
It's not his fault.
Yeah.
Did you want your kids to be ballers?
Yeah.
So we haven't had kids yet.
And that's like, that's a thing I actually think about a lot is, will the boy or girl be a hooper?
Like, how do I introduce it the right way?
How do I avoid other sports?
Like, I'm not going going to show a horse to my son or daughter ever for the love of fear
of that.
You know, take them out of the golf course.
Have fun on the golf course.
Take them to the basketball court.
How do you make it fun for them that they won?
Yeah.
I'll report back to you.
I think about it too.
I don't have kids yet.
One of my biggest fears is if my kid isn't athletic because then I have to go to their games and kind of suffer.
So I'm a little worried about that one, but my fiancΓ© played sports.
So I think the odds are in our favor.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
It'll be, yeah, especially, yeah.
So my wife's athletic, she was a dancer, so it'll be, you're good.
I think so, yeah.
If you marry into good jeans, and yeah, you're.
And if you train him early.
And you're tall, too.
How tall is your fiancΓ©?
She's 5'6, but my dad was tall.
So I think
you're gonna at least be six.
Yeah.
I think we go into baseball.
Yeah.
I think tie the right hand behind the back, make him a lefty.
Left-handed middle reliever, sign a hundred million dollar contracts for 10 years, baseball contracts.
There's no, you know, you can sign crazy, you can get injured and get all your money.
There you go.
That's the move, man.
Yeah, I wonder if you could train your kid to be lefty if you just start handing them stuff at an early age.
Tyler Wright came behind a pack.
Like, they don't remember anything ages one through five, right?
Yeah.
Well, they say you're born with the dominant hand, but who knows?
Kyrie Irving said he used to do a lot.
He's both ambidextrous, right?
Yeah.
That's deadly these days basketball.
No doubt.
I think in like five, ten years, everyone that hoops is going to be ambidextrous.
They're going to be 7-3, ambidextrous, can shoot threes.
That's what I'm saying.
saying like we gotta go to baseball yeah
i like my lifetime mentally but it's fine
i might have to hire you man come on i need a job everybody has their price yeah uh david what are you working on next and where can people find you so big thing i'm working on next is i'm doing the the most in-depth study on flow state that's ever been done working with some really high-level neuroscientists and I've always been enamored by flow state in sports and anything.
Like what it is, obviously, it's getting into your zone basically into
you know effortless effort and nihide sinski high kind of introduced it in 1984 had the book flow stephen collar took it another level with his 22 cues of flow but there's never been anything that said here's a formula to actually tap into flow and stay in it longer now i've interviewed a lot of athletes and i'll ask them like have you been into flow state most of them say yeah they'll describe that feeling and then i'll ask them how did you get into it they have no idea there has to be a way.
So we think we have, we're calling it the flow code.
It might, it's might, you know, we're doing some testing.
We're having, it's like actually a scientifically accredited study.
So I'll report back to you in like four to five months, see how the findings were doing the brain QEEG where it shows the levels.
But the difference in it is, you know how everybody talks now about like
you know, serotonin and dopamine and training those mental acuities.
It's training the the brain waves.
There's five main brain waves like the alpha beta low gamma how to actually upregulate them and down regulate them and that's what the formula will do so i think it's going to be groundbreaking report back to you on that that's a big thing that i'm working on
can't wait to see that man yeah we'll we'll uh we'll put you in the flow code dude i used to be a runner and runner's high is that's that that's it you tap in yeah but i could never figure out how to get there but once a month or whatever i'd get there and it'd feel like same thing with shooting i just shoot and then you just get you black out baby but there has to be there's something going on in the brain, has to be a way to tap it, trigger it.
And I know there's you know, novelty factor where you do something so many times, the habit just becomes nuanced and subconscious.
Like, there's just a way to do it, so yeah, but um, babinurse.com, baby nurse MBA on social media.
Uh, big new podcast with Dr.
Daniel Amon coming out.
The doctor and the nurse, perfect.
Hell down below, man.
Thanks for not doing awesome.
Yeah, thanks for the watch, guys, and see tomorrow.