Mastering Emotions: Green Beret's Unseen Advantage | Nick Lavery DSH #875

You can't fight your emotions.

I mean, they're there.

You certainly cannot get rid of them.

The sooner we can recognize that the same exact thing that makes us the dominant species on this planet, that being that we are creatures of emotion, is also the same thing that opens up a massive vulnerability to us.

How can I train my mind to be able to control them?

I'm not going to get rid of it, but I am going to learn how to control it.

All right, guys, Green Beret, Nick Lavery here.

First Green Beret on the show.

Thanks for coming on, man.

Thanks for having me.

Yeah, I'm honored.

Appreciate it.

And you're still active.

Still active.

That's the first active member I think I've had, too.

Okay.

Thousand episodes.

There we go.

Two birds, one stone.

Yeah.

You've been at it for a while now, right?

Coming up on 18 years.

Wow.

Yeah.

What's the average length, you think, that people last?

Like the average career length?

Yeah.

In the military, it's probably something like

six.

seven years we might guess.

Yeah.

A lot of people come in they do like a quick kind of four or five year contract and then call it a day.

And then you got some that go, you know, 30 plus years.

If I were to guess, I'd say, yeah, probably like six, seven time frame.

You want to hit that 30 plus?

No, I don't think I'm going to go that long, brother.

Yeah, man.

I mean, at this point, I'll go to 20, which is the amount of time you need to serve to be able to retire with full benefits.

Got it.

That's right around the corner for me.

So I'll go to that point for sure.

And then really the only question is how much longer.

do I stay in beyond that, if at all.

Yeah.

Do you feel like the age is catching up a little bit?

Not really.

Really?

no not really i mean you know my my job now in the military is in a leadership position you know my time on the teams doing the running and gunning stuff that that ended for me about a year and a half or so ago got it um so age-wise i feel great i'd say and as much as i love what i do it's i mean it's a privilege to get to do what i do period

with the stuff i'm doing on the side and my entrepreneurial stuff the more i do that the more i'm falling in love with it and the more curious i am to see what that looks like when I just drop the hammer and kind of go full in on that.

So, I think that that's probably what'll be the catalyst for me to get out is so that I can shift full steam into the other stuff.

Yeah.

And we were talking off camera about the purpose of, you know, because a lot of guys retire and then they get lonely, depressed, but having a business to fall back on is really important, right?

I would say that

assuming it's something that you have a passion for,

which I'd say is a theme and a recipe for success as an entrepreneur, as a true love of that game.

It would likely is not going to fill that void of being a soldier, a service member, a special operator, but I think it gets you close, where it gets you up in the morning, you're fired up, you're ready to go to work, you got the energy and the desire and the motivation to go win the day.

So I think that that can at least help those transitioning from military service into that next chapter.

I love it.

Yeah, talk to everyone about the business.

What exactly is it and how did you start it?

Precision Components is the name of the company.

We started it, I guess, officially in 2021, I'd say.

2022 is when it really kind of became more operational.

It's a service

company.

We do training and consulting, mostly in the arenas of leadership, resilience, performance mindset, team building.

And, you know, it's...

wild to just kind of look up and look back and around and go, man, how the hell did we, how did we do this?

And seeing some of the clients we serve, like Fortune 100 companies, professional athlete organization.

I mean, it's really been remarkable.

That's cool.

And yeah,

it's an exciting ride.

We're still very much babies in the space, but it's moving faster than me and my team can really keep up with.

That's incredible.

Good problem, though.

Great problem, David.

So these companies, they need some mindset help.

That's the thing.

I would say that's a common theme.

Yeah, is mindset, which is ironic because a lot of these organizations we work with

people

are successful according to just every metric you could think of.

Yeah, Fortune 100 is like, you know, multi, multi-millions.

So they got all the numbers and data that shows that they know how to perform, they know what works.

But when you can help them flip a switch into a new gear mentally and see them adopt those principles, which are a lot is

gonered from my time in the military and within the special operations community.

You start to pump that and translate those themes and methodologies and tactics and tools into a way that's absorbable by a business person or an athlete.

And they put that into practice, man, you just start to see their productivity just start to skyrocket.

Wow.

It's wild.

I love that.

Were you born pretty mentally strong growing up?

Or did you inherit most of that from the military?

It's a good question.

I would say that the foundation of that began being developed for me as a young person, like real young, like four years old.

Whoa.

You know, my, my background

of growing up, I was the new kid in school every year, all the way up until eventually I got to college.

So picked on, bullied, struggled socially.

I mean, kind of all those cliché.

Really?

Because you're a big example.

Yeah.

So it's kind of ironic.

People hear that from me.

They're like, no, no, no, that doesn't make any sense.

I'm like, no, it's true.

I was a scared, insecure kid.

That's what I was for a long time.

And that's really where my resilience began to be developed.

And a lot of that's the result of being put out into a world of suffering and getting your ass kicked, sometimes physically or just figuratively, and then coming back into an environment fostered by both my parents of love and compassion, where they gave me guidance, but they didn't overly protect me.

They didn't create this like force field around me.

They gave me some mentorship and they shoved me right back into the game.

And when you do that back and forth, like conditioning with anything, that starts to build.

It wasn't something that I really recognized I had.

in me as part of my character and personality traits until I got into the military and started operating as a Green Beret.

And then I was building upon a foundation that was really already there.

I just didn't really know about it.

Right, because you're witnessing a lot of people dropping out.

You're still hanging in there.

So you probably thought you were different then.

Yeah, at that point, it starts to mean like, hmm, maybe, maybe I do have something here.

Maybe that, maybe this is a good fit for me because of, you know, X, Y, and Z.

Yeah.

Why were you moving around so much growing up?

My parents struggled financially, you know, and they were just in the grind.

Two young parents.

My father had me, he was 20.

Wow.

My mother was 21, you know, so they're a a couple kids.

And now they're parents of two kids and trying to do or doing what it took to keep food on the table and keep a roof over our head, kind of bouncing from job to job, while also trying to find their purpose in life and their passion and like balancing those two things, which is a really hard thing to do when you got little humans that are looking at you for their survival.

So a combination of both those things.

And so yeah, it was a struggle.

But I look back now with just an enormous amount of gratitude for having grown up like that.

Not only within those conditions, but having two amazing human beings that cared for me enough.

I love it.

There's a common theme with a lot of successful people, I noticed.

They have a traumatic childhood.

Right.

It seems to be like kind of, I don't know, I wouldn't say recipe, but like there's a common theme there.

You see it within the special operations community.

You see it within the intelligence communities.

You see it within a lot of different.

genres of organizations.

And the way oftentimes it's quoted is, and this is by professionals, by doctors will say, you're looking for the person with the right amount of trauma.

And of course, that's a subjective that you can't put a number to it.

But a person that has experienced the right amount of trauma because too much can be a problem and not enough.

So you're looking for someone that's somewhere in that kind of mythical sweet spot of having experienced trauma growing up as a young person.

is a theme and or part of that recipe that can create a hyperforma.

Yeah, too much you could shut down, right?

Sure.

Or give up.

Right.

Was that ever something you thought about, giving up completely?

Thought about it?

Yeah.

Really?

Yeah, yeah.

For sure.

What point in your life?

Oh, man.

I could probably think of just off the top of my head, you know, dozens that come to mind.

But certainly going through special forces selection and assessment, like that first phase of, let's see if you have what it takes to prove you have a foundation to then be turned into a green beret.

I mean, that course is designed to beat you down to a pulp.

Wow.

And that even someone like me that went into that with the highest degree of confidence, I mean, ready to annihilate that course,

there were multiple points during that 14 days where I was like, hey, man, maybe, maybe you don't have what it takes.

Damn, it's 14 days?

Back then, what I went through was 14 days.

Now it's 21.

Holy crap.

Yeah.

So it's a, I mean, it's an ass kicker.

And I don't care how tough you are or how dedicated you are.

You are going to reach a crossroads during that experience where you start to second guess yourself.

Maybe I bit off more than I can chew.

Maybe I didn't train.

All of these reasons are going to start to sound really convincing in those moments of weakness when you are absolutely beaten to shit and you have to make that choice.

Am I going to stay on target?

Am I going to keep moving forward regardless?

Or am I going to take the soft spot to land?

All right.

And are you open with your other people that were with you?

Were you talking about how tough this was or were you just keeping it inside?

During selection,

it's pretty much a one-man show.

I mean, there are times when you're working as a team, but it's not the type of experience where you're sitting around the campfire with your buddies talking about, you know, how close were you to quitting today?

I mean, everyone's kind of just gets into that almost robot mentality and you're just in that grind basically 24 hours a day for the duration of the experience.

So you keep most of that shit to yourself.

Holy crap.

I thought it was like Hell Week where you're with like 100 people and they just keep dropping out.

So you're kind of on your own for a lot of it?

You're on your own for a lot of it.

Selection is an individual evolution, but there are specific points in time during that phase where you are put into small groups and expected to work as a team.

Got it.

And it's just guys you don't even know.

It's just random people.

Mostly guys, yeah, you don't know.

Wow.

So I wonder what percentage of people made it through that.

That sounds really intense.

At the time that I went through selection and the qualification course, the graduation rate, meaning the guy that started on day one of selection and then the guy that eventually earned his Green Beret was around 9%.

Damn.

Is the percentage of those that actually made it?

That's crazy.

That might be the lowest of any branch to get into, right?

They're all pretty low, man.

I mean,

all the different special operations units,

there's some different aspects of their selection processes and then follow-on training.

But the attrition rate for most is

pretty high.

What drew you to the Green Beret branch specifically?

Really a couple things.

One is

after graduating college, I knew I was going to enlist and I knew I wanted to go into special operations.

And after meeting with multiple recruiters from different branches, I decided to go the route of the Army to become a Green Beret.

And they offer what's known as an 18 x-ray contract option, which gives guys off the street.

the chance to bypass serving in the conventional army and going straight into the special forces pipeline.

So it was the speed in which I could get to the tip of the spear that I really needed to get to.

That enticed me.

But then also once I started doing a little bit of research into what the Green Berets do, because I really hadn't a clue.

And I'd seen John Rambo and John Wayne, but like I really didn't know.

I started to research.

What do SF teams do?

And our primary mission set.

that being unconventional warfare, when you start to unpack that a little bit, it was, I was enticed by that.

So it was the mission and the speed in which I could get to the mission.

Got it.

So you guys are mainly undercover, like secretive missions.

Is that how it works?

No,

that's a common kind of misconception.

Now, there are times, really within any special operations unit, where you will be asked and forced to operate in a low visibility type environment.

Green Berets are built specifically to work with and through Indigenous personnel.

And those are the two key words.

That's the differentiator of Green Berets and the other special operations units is we are designed to work with and through others, meaning that we need to be ass kickers ourselves.

You take a 12-man team, they need to be highly capable of going on target, kicking down doors, shooting bad guys in the face, doing all the movie guy stuff, right?

But what really makes us successful is our ability to advise, influence, teach these different skills in a foreign language to others to enable and empower them to go do the things that we need them to be able to do.

Got it.

What's going through your head on that first mission when you get sent out?

Oh man.

Drinking from a fire hose?

Really?

Yeah,

it's overwhelming to a degree.

You know, and you kind of have this vision of what it's going to look like when you finally get into Afghanistan, in my case, my first deployment.

And some of that comes to fruition, but there's also also just an overwhelming amount of variables that you were not anticipating that are being thrown at you.

So you rely on your teammates, your seniors, your leadership, those that have been there and done that a bunch of times.

And they're there to guide you and mentor you through the things that you need to do.

So it was,

it was amazing.

It was challenging.

And it was in that moment on that first time over there that I fell in love with this business.

Whoa.

My intention, Sean, was to come into this lifestyle, serve the minimum contract possible.

Four years, right?

It was going to be five for me.

Okay.

Five-year contract, get to the tip of the spear, kick some ass, get some payback for 9-11, and then get out of the army and figure out what I want to do with the rest of my life.

That was the plan.

And when I got over there for the first time and I actually started doing the work, everything shifted for me.

I was like, whoa,

I...

Not only do I not want to do anything else, but I can't even imagine doing anything else.

And that's where the whole game changed.

It was no longer a job.

It was no longer this lily pad to kind of jump off to the next thing.

It not only became a profession for me, but it became a lifestyle.

Wow.

So you felt really aligned with your purpose.

100%.

That's interesting.

Yeah.

Because I would have thought like you'd be nervous, you'd be scared that first mission, but plenty of that as well going on.

I mean, it's an emotional roller coaster, you know.

And, you know, and I'm glad you bring up scared because it's something I really love to talk about.

It's very easy to look at special operations personnel, SEALs, ranges, Green Berets, you know, Delta Force.

Choose your unit.

That we are these emotionless, fearless, heartless, perhaps

instruments of death, like robots.

And that's completely and totally inaccurate.

Completely and totally inaccurate.

Fear is part of being a human being,

period.

What makes special operators unique is the ability to control those emotions.

You don't get rid of them.

They're present, but it's your ability to regulate them, to take them at times, recognize the emotion you're experiencing, compartment it in order to make logical decisions.

Right.

So was I scared?

Absolutely.

That were there were moments of fear?

100%.

But through training and repetition and guidance from those around me, you learn over time how to take those in and then still be able to operate with objectivity and with logical decision-making.

Right.

Yeah, I'm glad you put it that way because you can't fight your emotions.

I mean, they're there.

You can't just put them to the side.

You certainly cannot get rid of them.

And I think any attempt to do so, you will fail and then you will become incredibly frustrated about it.

Yeah.

So I think the sooner we can recognize that the same exact thing that makes us the dominant species on this planet, that being that we are creatures of emotion, is also the same thing that opens up a massive vulnerability to us.

The sooner we can recognize that and that you're not going to get rid of them.

the sooner we can stop move to moving towards, all right, well, how can I train my mind to be able to control them?

I'm not going to get rid of it, but I am going to learn how to control it.

Which is super important in business, too.

Absolutely.

I've seen a lot of deals get lost over uncontrolled emotions.

Business in your personal life with your spouse, with your kids.

I mean, I got two young boys.

My oldest is seven, my youngest is three.

They're animals, savages, and an absolute highlight of my life.

They're an amazing lot of me.

If you don't learn that at some point, the ability to control your emotions around your children, man, you're going to have a real hard time.

And odds are, you're going to be developing and influencing some people into some directions that you don't want them to go in.

Right.

Because a lot of parents take out their emotions on their children, right?

Whether it's anger or sadness, whatever it is.

For sure.

And that can traumatize the children.

100%.

And they don't even realize they're doing it.

And the

kids in general, whether they're yours or anyone else's,

are more so influenced by the actions that they see rather than what they're being told.

So it's one thing for me to tell my son, like, don't do this or do that or whatever.

It's something entirely different and more powerful for him to witness me living those ethos myself through implementation.

That's what he's really absorbing.

So if I'm flying off the handles every time something bothers me, whether that's anger or rage or sadness or choose your emotional extreme, certainly the negative ones, then it is.

without question something that that young mind is going to begin to replicate repeatedly over and over and over again.

And now you're creating another human or influencing other human who also lacks emotional control.

And that's a very slippery slope to be on.

Absolutely.

So you were married during your deployments?

My wife and I got married

after my,

I think, fourth deployment.

My wife, my now wife,

She was in Afghanistan with me.

She's also active duty on me as well.

Okay.

So she was deployed into Afghanistan on the deployment when I got wounded.

So she had a front row seat to this entire thing.

And at that time, we were really just really close friends.

And her and I could both tell that there was something maybe more meaningful there.

We had known each other for like a decade.

We were in two locations.

We weren't physically at the same spot, but we were relying on each other as a means of emotional support.

She's doing her thing and I'm doing my thing.

So she had a front row seat to the whole thing.

I mean, so she was literally right along my side from the very beginning and then also through the entire recovery process and everything like that.

And you want to talk about starting a relationship at your absolute lowest point.

That's where I was.

And not only was she supportive, she was an enormous asset to me.

So that is where things really started to foster and then we got married after that.

That's beautiful.

Yeah, man.

Wow.

Yeah.

Talk to us about that injury, man.

That was a life-changing moment for you.

It was.

Yeah.

Also a blessing in a lot of ways.

Wow.

Yeah, also a blessing in a lot of ways.

You know, the short version, Sean, is on the tail end of our deployment, we were set to be there for six months.

We had been there about five and a half.

Again, Green Berets work with and through.

So on this particular day, me, my 11 teammates, and a handful of other service members are getting ready to go on target with about 180 partner force personnel.

And prior to that operation, a member of the Afghan National Police Force, a guy that we had been working with for months, climbed up on the back of a Ford Ranger pickup truck that had a mounted PKM belt-fed machine gun attached to it and opened fire to me and my friends from about 30 feet away.

Jeez.

It's considered the largest, most catastrophic insider attack that we know of during the global war on terrorism.

Whoa.

There were 12 U.S.

casualties, three of which were killed.

Me, another eight varying degrees of wounded, and you can probably assume where most of the damage to me was.

My right leg was basically vaporized.

Holy crap.

Yeah.

That's insane.

And you don't know why he flipped or was he always undercover?

No, I do know why he flipped.

And in fact, when that became made aware to me, it was another massive moment for me.

Really?

I didn't find out till about a month or so after I'd been wounded, where my rest of my teammates eventually made it back stateside.

And then they came to visit me at Walter Reed, where I was going through my recovery.

And they told me what happened.

And they said,

here's the situation.

About a couple weeks prior, nine Taliban fighters bombed into this guy's house in the middle of the night.

Nine guys with guns.

This dude was a husband and a father of like seven kids.

Wow.

And these Taliban fighters walk into his house and they say, hey, man, here's the deal.

You got two options.

Option A is you do this attack for us.

Option B is we brutalize your entire family right now in front of you.

When I say brutalize, I'm talking next level medieval shit.

Brutalize your entire family right now in front of you, and then we slaughter them, and then we slaughter you.

Either way in this equation, you're dead.

But if you choose option A, we will ensure your family is taken care of.

And

what made this tactic successful was that they would actually follow through on that, and they would take care of those families.

So they had done this repeatedly, and they built up a degree of credibility over the years having done this.

Wow.

So this dude is put into a really difficult position.

We want to talk about stuck between a rock and a hot place.

And although I didn't have the family I have now then,

I could still empathize with this guy in being put in that position with no practical way to really fight back, right?

You have to decide this right now.

What's it going to be?

Dude, I would do anything to protect my family.

Right.

And if I'm put in that position today with no practical means of fighting back in that moment, I'm doing the exact same thing that this guy did.

Wow.

Period.

What a statement.

So when my teammates informed me of some of the backstory behind how and why,

it allowed me to release a lot of this anger and rage that I had pent up, this sense of betrayal.

Like I had been working alongside you.

Because he was a friend to you, right?

I wouldn't say friend, but he was someone that

we worked with.

I mean, I taught him how to use the gun.

that he eventually shot me and my friends with.

Oh, wow.

So that sense of betrayal is quite powerful.

Right.

And when my teammates told me what the deal was, it was like, you know, man, I get it.

And no high feelings.

Damn.

And it just allowed me to just release that and then focus on business.

That's crazy.

Did your team take that guy out?

Oh, yeah.

He was killed within about nine or ten seconds.

Wow.

I wonder if his family survived.

That's a good question.

Damn.

That's crazy, man.

And you decided to come back after all that.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And you use the word decide, and that's a fair way to say it because it's true.

But I can tell you, man, when I was in the intensive care unit,

I saw this very simply.

I had two options.

Option A was roll over and die.

Option B was going back to doing what you do.

At that point in my life, Sean, being a green beret and being a professional warrior and a warfighter, a service provider was not what I did.

It was literally who I was.

Now, that has changed for me since back then.

We're talking 11 years ago.

Right?

I'm not married.

I have no kids.

It's a different version of of me then.

But that back then, that was who I was.

I was put on this planet to do one thing and it was that.

So it was either roll over and die or go back to doing what you do.

That was it.

So I saw it as a very simple decision to make.

It was one I was able to make almost immediately.

I, of course, didn't have a clue as to how I would do that, but I knew exactly what I was going to do.

Right.

Because the legs weren't around back then, right?

The what?

Like the legs, the metal legs you have now?

The prosthetics?

Yeah.

No, they were around.

Oh, they were?

Yeah, actually, the leg i'm wearing right now

is very similar to the very first one that i was given when i was at walter reed now 11 12 years ago now oh okay yeah so you they gave that to you and you were able to walk on it right away no not right away man i mean it took it took months yeah it took months of like basic rehab um just to be able to get upright out of a bed.

I ended up needing about 40 surgeries on my right leg.

Shit.

As they were battling this infection that had set in.

So they were just incrementally amputating it piece by piece.

Oh my gosh.

Sometimes three, four times a week.

I would go to sleep.

I'd wake up.

I'd have a little less leg and just rinse and repeat that about 37, 38, 40 times.

Whoa.

So eventually they get the infection under control, right?

And now it's, all right, let's just get your, your general recovery stuff going.

Eventually, yeah, you meet with a prosthetist.

You start getting fitted for this robot leg.

You have no idea how this is going to work.

And you kind of navigate through that, you know, very awkwardly.

And it's, it's a clumsy progression so it took months and you know of course it's really hot but yeah like anything else with enough reps you can you can figure it out damn that's crazy i thought they just took off the leg in one surgery but 30 is holy shit dude yeah it was quite a bit that is crazy man um

but then you started how long between then and the business did did that transition take

between that and me getting back into like kind of starting your starting your business oh my business yeah oh man so well

this all initially happened.

This was in 2013.

And then

eventually I get back to the teams and, you know, I'm just living the life of a, of a, of a typical, I say typical.

Obviously, there's like something pretty different about me, but I'm just a team guy with a job to do.

So I'm deploying and I'm just training and I'm doing my thing.

The idea of starting my own business really didn't happen until 2020.

Oh, it's a while.

Yeah, it was a while.

I was just, I was living the, living the the team guy life, and that's all I wanted to do.

And I was, I was back to doing it.

And that was my complete and total, 100% professional focus was on that.

The idea of kind of stopping my own thing on the side didn't happen for years.

Got it, got it.

You tweeted out that discomfort is the gatekeeper to destiny.

I probably did.

That sounds like something I would say.

That's a deep quote, man.

I'd love to dive into that.

Yeah.

I mean,

in my opinion,

struggle is a requirement for growth.

It is something that we are going to experience physically, professionally, socially at times.

I have another expression I like to throw around, which is the size of the struggle is commensurate with the size of the goal.

As much as we would like to have this massive goal with this huge win and the journey to get there being

without discomfort and without suffering is almost certainly never going to happen.

There are those like unicorn experiences that are the exception to the rule.

You win the mega lotteries and overnight you're a multi-billionaire.

That's the exception to the rule.

The rule is you must suffer.

And to what degree you are willing to struggle and the amount of discomfort you're willing to put yourself through is going to be directly correlated with the size of the victory at the end of that game.

Wow.

I love that way of thinking because people, like you said, they want this massive success, right?

Whether it's financially, health, or whatever, but they don't realize what it takes.

No.

I mean, not only do very few realize what it takes

very few realize in my opinion

the amount of capability and capacity is within them right now

like many think that they're operating at like 90 like i'm i'm right i'm pushing it almost to the absolute extreme

when in reality i'd say it's probably closer to like 50.

like you barely know how much you have inside you right now There may have been moments where you've gotten a glimpse of it.

Most people barely know a fraction of what they're truly capable of.

And I can tell you, I use me as an example, man.

As a two-legged guy, Sean, I have a lot of accomplishments that I'm proud of.

Plenty.

I played football in college.

I was, I got selected to be a Green Beret.

I was the honor graduate of my qualification course.

A lot of these accolades as a two-legged guy.

To do those things took a lot of hard work and discipline and resilience and consistency and all these things.

It wasn't until I was met with this traumatic event of losing my leg, setting my sights on doing something that was seemingly impossible, and then begin moving towards that with this ferocious obsession of having to make it, that I realized I had an entire another level, multiple additional levels within me already to tap into

in order to stop making something like that real.

And it's not like when I was in the hospital at Walter Reed, some like mad scientist showed up and rammed a metal spike into the back of my fucking head and uploaded another degree of work ethic or discipline or resilience or mental toughness right it was literally there the entire time it just took

a

obsession to do something

and that being something that was

really difficult to accomplish right you couple those two things together and you find out you've got not only another gear to shift into, but probably multiple.

Dude, I agree 100%.

50% is pretty low, I'd say, but I could see it.

I thought it was more like 60, 70, but I'm sure some people are at 50.

I'm sure some numbers are out there with some like compelling case studies.

They could actually put a number on it.

But what I can say with a degree of certainty is that most think that they're at a higher capacity than they really are.

Right.

And that's been my next mission in life with this book and with my business is to help people not only recognize it, but then provide them with some tools to be able to start tapping into it.

Absolutely.

Is this book on Audible?

It is.

Yeah.

I'll tell you right now, if this voice bothers you, you're not gonna want to listen to it because this is the guy that narrates it.

Oh, I love when authors do that, dude.

Yeah, yeah, it means a lot.

It's way more purpose-driven when the actual author reads it.

I think so, too.

You know what I mean?

Uh, Nick, where can people find you, man?

Where can people check out the book?

The one-stop shop is our website.

It's teammachine.com.

Machine is M-C-H-N.

It's got links to the socials, the books, and to the merchandise, and to our training offerings, and all the things, bro.

Perfect.

We'll link below.

Thanks for watching, guys.

Thanks for coming on, Nick.

Appreciate it.

See you guys tomorrow.