From $0 to 100K/Month: My Unbelievable Journey 🌟 | Maciej Gawronski DSH #863

With uh Serge.

I was a video editor for him like two or three years ago.

Really?

I was a video editor for them like a couple of years ago.

Dang, so you've had a lot of jobs for your age.

Yeah, yeah.

That's interesting.

Because a lot of people at 20 in the US don't have many jobs.

You know, you seem to have been working from a really young age.

Yeah.

That's cool.

Is that common over there?

No.

So you're just rare breed.

All right, guys.

First guest from Poland and his first flight ever.

Mace, 20 years old.

Thanks for coming out, man.

Thank you.

Wow, first flight.

So you really like it there, huh?

Yeah, it's very good.

You don't want to leave, but you're going to Bali soon, too.

Yeah, I'm going to Bali.

Like, you wanted me to go in the time when I will be in Bali, but we managed to get that time sooner.

Nice.

Let's do it, man.

15-hour flight.

And speaking of 15, you're doing $150K a month right now.

Yeah.

Is that through a social media marketing agency?

Kind of.

We have a build and release model.

We basically build and release a marketing system,

funnels for other agencies and the coaches that's our like one side of things that we do and then we also do kind of acquisition.com when we partner with other companies and do everything like done for them wow so how did you get so good at marketing at such a young age yeah so I actually started when I was in the primary school.

First grade?

Yeah, yeah, exactly.

I was listening to a lot of like personal development stuff.

In first grade, bro.

Not first grade.

it was like sixth grade or something.

That's still really young.

Yeah, that's still really young.

And I was just like brainwashing myself with this type of content, and it just like stick with me.

Nice.

Then I remember

COVID hit and I was like playing a lot of games like Legion of Legends or Cartner Strike.

And I was posting something on YouTube.

And then I remember I got one comment someone invited me for a YouTube video with him.

And then he was a real estate agent.

And I was asking him, like, hey maybe I can do something for him and I was his assistant back then and then I started like cold calling and selling for the phone and that was the time where I learned marketing and sales so in sixth grade you were working for a real estate agent no no it was like um in the high school oh high school okay yeah but I for like different businesses in the primary school I was reselling like rare sneakers like Supreme stuff yeah did you have the bot yeah yeah you were one of those kids right yeah those kids used to make a ton of money bro yeah I I I was able to make like even more money, but I earned like 5k with that, maybe 10k.

Yeah.

It still wasn't bad in Poland, honestly.

No, for that age, too.

Like, you know, when you're a teenager with 5, 10k, that's like...

I remember I told my dad and my parents about reselling those sneakers, and they were like, oh, if it wasn't that, if it would be like that easy, then everybody would do it.

And they didn't believe me that it's possible to make that.

And they believed when I showed them my bank account.

Money talks.

Yeah.

But a a lot of people, especially parents, when you get into business, they're just trying to look out for you, but they don't see the other side of it.

Yeah, those Yeezy bots, holy crap, people would get like 100 shoes and sell them all for double the price overnight.

Do those still work, you think?

I don't think so.

I think there's

high competitive

in there.

A lot of people are doing that.

But I remember I have a couple of bots in there and I was going to school because my parents didn't allow me to stay in home and buy those shoes.

So I have the boats.

They were like ready to launch on a certain time when the job was in.

And I was just like solving some math problems in school and making money

in the home.

How is the school in Poland?

Pretty easy, I would say, when it comes to the lever.

And it was like easy because

I didn't want to go to some kind of high-level schools.

So I was in my small city, we have around 10,000 people in there.

And I was able to respond on Slack.

I was in high school responding to Slack.

It was a geography test, and I got one call from the real estate offer that I was working on.

And I was selling them on selling their home.

That's hilarious during the test.

Yeah, during the test.

I was like, hey, this is an important phone.

I really need to go.

Dude, that's savage.

Did you graduate or did you yeah i was really good in in school okay uh my mom was a and still a math teacher and i was like

uh in the us we would tell like an eighth grade so the best grades uh best like exam um

exam results i was really good at it wow that's rare for entrepreneurs to be good at yeah i was like very good uh in school and business and then in sports too damn so you're just gifted man you got genetics yeah i don't think that was genetics that was just like my passion for grinding, I would say.

Okay.

Like were you the best athlete the first day you joined the team or did you?

No, no, no, no, not at all.

Like in terms of the school sports like

football and handball and other stuff, it wasn't that great.

But then I started

training some other more advanced sports like street workout, calisthenics.

And then I was like really good.

I would say I was in like

one of the 50 people in the Poland.

I was like in the best 50 people.

Holy crap.

And what sport was that?

Could you repeat?

What sport was that?

Were you the best?

Street workout.

Street workout.

So what is that?

What sport is that?

It's kind of like gymnastic when you hold different like static elements, like blanche, floor driver, and you combine it with different strand elements.

Let's say people also, there's like two versions of street workout.

There's like a freestyle.

I was doing a freestyle.

And then it's like strength.

So like weight pull-ups, dips, and and other stuff.

Damn.

So you were just...

How many pull-ups could you do?

Pull-ups?

Around 30.

Okay.

And we weighed like additional 20, 30 kilograms.

And I was able to do like 12 of those.

Jeez.

People underestimate how hard pull-ups are.

Pull-ups are hard.

Yeah.

I couldn't do one until college.

Really?

Yeah.

I was weak, dude.

I was frail.

I was a twig.

Crazy.

Push-ups.

I couldn't do 10 push-ups until college.

I also was struggling with pull-ups.

And I remember like one girl from my family who were like I was in primary school I couldn't do like single pull-up and she was able to do that I was like oh that's so weak

grinding and I wanted to become the best yeah girls will motivate you to look good

you also used to clone rare plants in your basement laboratory yeah that was in primary school and that was the plan not the plan sorry

the stage when I learned to become the best at every field where I could.

So that's why I was almost the best in the primary school, high school.

I was the best in sports and I wanted to be the best in business.

And the same was with cloning the rare plants.

That was funny as fuck actually.

I don't know how I started in that, but it's like also fifth or sixth grade in primary school.

I don't remember how I went into that.

I just saw a YouTube video.

I was like, cool, let me build a laboratory in my basement.

I cloned the plants there.

I was like,

Is it possible to clone like you have one leaf, for example, from a plant?

And in in this in vitro because you're cloning them in in vitro in the in the lab you can make like 50 new plants from from one leaf in like 30 days and then you can call this 30 into another like wow yeah yeah so you would sell them or you just did it for fun i did it for fun at first but um it turned out that a lot of people wanted them yeah and they were like uh i was a friend with another mache

and he was really into that too and we were once like import and really around plants from Czech Republic.

We like ordered like it was like a 5K order.

Jeez.

Yeah, and I was just replacing like

cloning that plants.

And then people knew me in the industry.

And

we sold quite a lot of them.

Like, I probably double or triple the money.

And then there was like

they needed a passport to have a plant.

And I was like 15 or something.

And I couldn't even get that because I was too young.

So I like sold sell all of that and keep it.

You need a passport to keep it.

Yeah, you need like a passport for the plants.

So you have like one plant, you need to have a passport.

What?

Yeah, in order to sell that in Poland.

What the heck?

That's weird.

It's like a black market then.

Yeah, kind of.

And you couldn't like legally sell that

if you don't have a like.

A license, yeah.

Oh, God.

So is Mache a common name in Poland?

Not really.

Like my business partner that is there too, his name is also Mache.

But yeah, I don't know quite a lot of them.

Oh, okay you just happen to found the other one

that's funny so when did the money start getting to like crazy amounts was it gradual or was it sudden depending what do you call a crazy amount I would say 100k a month is pretty crazy like one year ago I would say okay so I graduated the high school I don't even remember

Like it was like two years ago probably

and then I was like I was still living with my parents It was comfortable.

So even though I I was making like 5, 10k a month, I was like doing nothing because I have like the roof and the bed.

I don't have to pay anything.

I was like, okay, let me just move out.

And I move out like one hour from my family house and the city.

And then I was like, okay, Mate, now we need to make some money to live.

And then I like 20x my business.

And a couple of months after that, I started earning like a regular 100 grand a month.

Within 28 days?

Not 28 days, like a couple of months.

Oh, a couple of months.

that's still really fast 20x revenue uh within those a couple months yeah no that's still fast though to go from 10k to 100k within a couple months what do you think uh was the big change that caused that i think uh it was the mindset and the clear heads to focus because you know when i was in my family house i was like i remember that for this day i was making sales calls and my mother would just like knock on the door and tell hey get the trash out i was like mom i'm trying to look at business yeah i can relate to that for sure yeah and then i was like in my apartment and i had this uh like i lived by myself so no one was disrupting me like i was able to just work and work for 18 hours and just put work wow so you're just working 18 hours a day right now

um i was working like 12 to 18 hours a day

for a long of time now we are on the first vacations in my life even crazy um yeah my business partner told me like, hey, you need to rest.

Yeah, you're not even 21.

You can't even enjoy Vegas to the full extent.

Yeah.

That's true.

You can't even get a hotel room, right?

I don't know.

Where are you staying at?

I was in like

first we were like Luxor.

Then went into like Harry for four seasons also.

We like changed the hotels.

Maybe your friend is 21 then.

Yeah, they're like older than me, like 28.

Yeah, because you need to be 21 to stay here.

Interesting.

Crazy, right?

But they did allow me to boogette ball myself, so.

Oh, really?

Oh, maybe they changed it.

I remember when I tried before, I couldn't.

Yeah, that they let me in, but maybe you just kind of like drink alcohol and other stuff.

Yeah, but you probably don't even drink.

Yeah, I don't even drink.

The drinking age in Poland is what, 18?

Yeah, 18.

That's 88.

But you don't drink?

I don't drink.

I remember when I was in primary school, like, that was the thing that allowed me to focus my business and other stuff.

Because even in primary school, people were drinking a lot.

What?

Yeah.

In primary school?

Primary school.

They're like 12 years old.

Yeah.

And they're drinking.

So that's common over there?

Yeah, that's common over there.

So in the US, probably like people start drinking, I don't know, like 21 year old?

I'd say high school, like 15, 16.

Okay.

So when people in Poland are like 15 or 16, they're like ending.

That's crazy.

I guess people get bored over there.

Yeah, like people over there, like, exactly.

Damn.

So there's not many entrepreneurs there then.

No, no, I was like lonely as fuck.

And I have like two ways.

Like I could just like study, play video games, make business or drink.

I prefer to do those three things.

I think you picked the right ones.

You still play video games?

They don't have time for that for real.

Right.

But sometimes it's still like maybe once a month, once or two months.

Okay.

We gotta hop on Fortnite together.

Yes, sir.

Fortnite's fun.

Yeah, I was playing Fortnite like a lot in the school.

And I think like playing the video games is the thing that allowed me to also be where I am currently because I always wanted to become the best version in every aspect even that was a video game like business is a video game right in some extent

so I learned a lot from YouTube videos that was in English because the tutorials in English were all always like better and that's how I earned like the English so quickly oh so you didn't even know English till you started watching YouTube videos

I think no like in

In the

primary school I had English lessons but

yeah nothing to compare.

Like other people in the class like they couldn't speak like me or understand that really well.

Dang, who are you watching on YouTube?

Oh when it comes to the League of Legends,

I didn't remember that was so old.

But

yeah, when I went to the business,

that was probably Iman Gaji.

That was the first person I started watching.

Classic.

Classic, yeah.

I used to watch all his stuff too.

Really?

Yeah.

I stopped watching him like a couple of months ago when he went like this broad content.

Same.

I stopped watching maybe a year ago.

Yeah.

He started watching a ton of courses and it's just like a new course in two months.

Yeah, like it's totally like big beginner stuff.

So it's like speaking to like setting the dream.

And

when you're walking like a lot of time during the day, you don't have just space for that.

Yeah, I've noticed I've changed the people I watched as I evolve in my business journey.

Like I used to watch Gary Vaynerchuk a lot and Amon and Ty Lopez, but now it's like

I I like Hormozy right now.

Yeah, Dan Martell.

Exactly.

Those type of guys.

Cody Sanchez.

Yeah.

Yeah, because I want to be doing eight figures a year.

I've been at seven for a while.

You think you'll be able to scale to eight?

Easy.

I broke

in Poland.

Like I went to the Polish.

I was...

When you DN me to go to this podcast, I was only working on the English market

back then.

And then something happens.

Like someone messaged me from Poland

if i can like help them consult with them and i was like okay let me go into that and i saw the polish market is like playing with kids in the sandbox wow because they're just so easy like a blue ocean i went all into that and now i want like uh kind of the best in like one of the five best person marketing in poland i would say damn yeah it's it's such a that easy and you get

the knowledge from the us market and you put it in the polish market you're just killing it see that's smart smart because there now there's people going to other markets right tai lopez and there's a couple other guys going after mexico yeah and um i think like people just didn't know that people in poland have money

like uh i was also surprised when i talked with this guy and he's like hey i'm making 30k a month in poland i was like holy that's a lot i thought you were making like 2.5 at maximum

and yeah we're just in the in a place and we are like taking over the entire polish market and then we're planning to expand to other europeans market you know like germany Czech Republic.

I also have like a couple of clients for Czech Republic and we're killing it for them.

Really?

I have one client that I take from 300 euros a month to 25k euros a month in like one month.

Holy crap.

What is he selling?

A dating coach.

He's a dating coach.

Dating coach.

Yeah, and the level of market, like, they don't even have a compet competition there.

Wow.

So that's a good strategy.

Yeah, and no one is doing marketing like paid outs.

Right, it's cheap over there.

Yeah, because in the US it's expensive.

Everyone's going after the US market, but you're going international.

Exactly.

You could scale a lot quicker that way.

Wow, that's cool.

So you could definitely hit a million a month if you just scale internationally.

Yeah, I feel like a million a month comes into the USD currency.

It's a matter of like maybe two to three years.

Two to three years.

What's the currency difference?

It's like

one million dollars is like four million Polisota.

So it's like 4x.

Got it.

Wow.

I thought it was part of the Euro, but no, it's not.

Poland's not.

Yeah, Poland is in Euro, but we don't use like Euro currency.

Oh, really?

Yeah.

Oh, wow.

Like, it's we use that, but it's not, like, the main.

It's not the main one.

Yeah.

Okay, interesting.

I thought all the European countries were using it.

There are some that

there are some that have that, but we don't have that in Poland.

Got it.

Are you gonna stay there for a while, you think?

In Vegas or where?

Poland.

Poland?

Actually, that was my first trip when I I was on first like plan plane flight.

Um that was really stressful for me.

But

I should have warned you.

I didn't know that was your first one.

Were you in first class at least?

Yeah, in the first, in the first class.

That helped a lot, dude.

Really?

Oh, my gosh.

Well, you're not my height, but.

Yeah, it's tough.

International economy.

Yeah.

And

yeah, I was like stressed to go out to Poland, but my business part told me, like, hey, let's just go.

I will take care of everything.

So, yeah, that was really helpful.

Then we are going to Bali, and for now, I enjoy a lot, like, being outside of Poland, but some part of me is like still,

maybe I will get back to Poland at some time.

I feel that.

Who are you watching right now, Luke Balmar?

I remember you got that question for me to prepare for that.

I was like, who the fuck is Luke Bermar?

I don't even know him.

I remembered some of his videos on the Instagram.

Some people were commenting him, and yeah, I didn't know him.

I don't even watch him.

He's probably like a guy to watch if you are a beginner.

Yeah.

He's big in the US, yeah.

I wonder what type of content you get in Poland.

Could you repeat?

What type of people you get over there?

So what type of people pe people are watching in Poland?

Like, what?

Like, is Alex Hormozy showing up in Poland?

Yeah.

Oh, he is?

Yeah, Alex Hormozy's showing in Poland.

Alectronozzi Mangadji 2.

Yeah, people are watching like the Superstar, like Ravia Povala, Serge Gattari.

I actually used to work with

Search.

I was a video editor for him like two or three years ago.

Really?

Yeah, for

search.

I was Kbags, Nick Teriot.

I was a video editor for them like a couple of years ago.

Dang, so you've had a lot of jobs for your age.

Yeah.

That's interesting.

Because a lot of people at 20 in the U.S.

don't have many jobs.

You know, you seem to have been working from a really young age.

Yeah.

That's cool.

Is that common over there?

No.

So you're just rare breed.

Dang.

What do your parents think of this?

So I remember I had a

argument with them because they wanted me to go to the college.

Was like, it doesn't even make sense.

I was like, I was already making like 25k when I was living with them.

And they were like, oh, this is not a real job.

Like, go to college.

And I think like the moment I told them, like, hey, I just rented an apartment in their city, I think, like, they really, like...

knew that I'm serious about that.

Right.

And yeah.

Nice, so they they support you now?

Yeah, now they support me.

But when I was starting, they were like,

stop, like, wasting time and do some real stuff.

Yeah, same with mine.

Were they entrepreneurs also?

No, no, no, not at all.

Like, my mother is like a math teacher, you said.

What was your father?

My father, he was working nine to five, like a manager job at one company.

And

like since three years, he has his own company that is like local and

they repair like

some stuff.

Okay.

So, where do you think you got the mindset from then?

I think that's from YouTube videos, to be honest.

Really?

YouTube videos and sports.

Okay.

Sport a lot.

Yeah, sports helped me for sure.

Yeah.

I was like, when I was

working the street walkout,

I was working like it was like five-year periods.

Every training would take around two to three hours, and then you have to also stretch yourself and some other stuff.

I would do like five trainings every single week, three hours

every single training, haven't missed one.

Damn

five years?

For five years, yeah.

Holy I remember I was

I had an injury.

I was

having something

like that dilated a part of me kind of like a skin.

And I couldn't walk out for like a month.

I remember when I talked with the surgeon and he told me like, hey, you cannot walk.

I was like crying.

I was like, no.

Your discipline is impressive.

Yeah.

Yeah,

for that age, no days off.

Wow.

And that's how I was able to work a lot in my business.

And

still, I'm able to work for 12 hours every single day and just do the work.

Yeah.

How big is the company now?

How many employees?

I don't even know.

Wow.

It's like we heard so many.

I think we're around 20 employees right now.

Okay.

Around 20.

So you've doubled since we've talked last year.

Yeah.

Because you had 10 last year just on the sales team, right?

Yeah.

Nice.

You're going really quick man yeah does that ever does that pressure ever get to you pressure yeah just yeah i have a lot of pressure because i just feel like the breath on the competition on my back that uh right now we are probably like the best in what we do in poland for this type of customers like the businesses that we work with

But competition is growing like and they're starting every single day.

Right.

And we just have to keep the momentum to

not be ahead of them.

Yeah.

Like we have to be ahead.

That makes sense.

What trends are you seeing right now that you have your eye on?

Trends.

Interesting question.

I think the trends are personal branding

and

bid and release offers, kind of.

Yeah, so when it comes to personal branding, I'm really bullish on YouTube.

Like I was working in the YouTube agency, that's how I was

starting as a video editor.

And I remember I got the mindset because I was editing the search guttery videos and I was like editing his shorts from the long form content and I was watching his videos like multiple times so simultaneously I was able to like

learn from what he was saying in those videos.

I watched every single video from him same from Kay same from Nick Terriot and other people

and I really think like personal branding is the key because like everyone can just throw a direct response at a VSL funnel.

Yep.

And what differentiate that from others is like personal brand.

You just cannot like be other Macie Garoinsky.

you cannot be like other nick terriot you can only be like this person with this like many videos and also i love that because i read psychosabernetic book and i know that the your brain doesn't um it's not a difference if you talk like for example you are talking it's not a difference for your brain to talk with me and watch my video on youtube really no difference no difference so you can actually like pre-sell people a lot in the content whoa yeah i need to read that book i've heard about it actually yeah it's really good if you haven't read that then

it's not like they teach about the videos and other stuff, but there was an experiment when you were told that something is hot on your

hand.

And it actually was warm-wrapped in here.

It was warm-wrapped.

So yeah, the brain doesn't recognize if you're imaging something.

or if it's happening in the real life.

That's why I was

exercising the street workout.

There was like a dynamic element that I needed to like 360 on the bar.

And I was just imagining myself doing that the perfect way.

And I was just helping.

Wow.

Like the athletes, they do that a lot, like Olympic athletes.

Yeah, visualization, right?

Manifestation.

Yeah.

Damn.

So that stuff actually works on.

Yeah, it actually works.

I wasn't always like...

I don't like talking about mindset because

I think that some people are like to too much of the semantic stuff.

But I really think that helps.

Yeah, as much as I don't love talking about mindsets I think like something isn't yeah something great well you have great mindset even though you don't talk about it

what other books do you read a lot still or yeah yeah so recently we hit like another bottleneck in our company which is like leadership because like we hire a lot of people yeah

so I started reading all the books on leadership hiring people managing the team like who not how any 20 sales and marketing and other stuff when it comes to leadership I think like I just changed the content that that I view and the book that I read on the level that I am currently.

Yeah, so we are right now showing off leadership, so I'm just watching stuff about the readership.

Okay.

So you're the leader, right?

Or did you outsource that?

I'm a leader.

You're the CEO?

Yeah, I'm the CEO.

And do you want it that way?

We will see, honestly, I'm the introverted person.

I just like to click buttons, make some for us.

That's why I asked that.

Yeah, yeah, kind of.

Exactly.

Yeah, like I also manage Sales team for my business partner, but I don't think that's my strongest point.

I feel my strongest point just sitting like alone and kicking the buttons.

Yeah, so you might have to find a CO when you're yeah, maybe.

I'm not planning to exit the company, but I think like I can make a really big exit like in a couple of years.

So yeah, just building everything the right way right now.

And

I'm building this out to be a, for it to have potential to be like exited in somewhere else.

How far out do you think?

Do you have plans after you exit?

I think like it's a matter of also three to five Wow.

So you're thinking that far ahead.

Yeah.

Okay.

And do you want to do something else when you sell this thing?

Yeah, sure.

Sure.

So I'm planning to make a group of companies.

So a current company is Gavronify.

I wanted that to be rebranded because my surname is Gavronsky.

So I wanted to be like named a completely different way to don't be associated with my name.

And then I plan to make a group with this entire company.

So the Gavronify will come to build and release marketing systems and teach them how to manage that by themselves.

But then, there's also a big problem in Poland when it comes to salespeople.

Like, after this, Dennis, my business partner, Daniel Giza,

like, he can get me an English-speaking setter or closer in like one phone.

In Poland, it's not that easy.

You don't have closers.

I teach, like, even made a free program for setters and closers to teach them for free because I needed them for my client and for myself.

And right now, I'm

doing a a better program for closers and setters.

And then I'm like in the next year, when I'll be more delegated from the current work, I will go more on teaching people how to become closer and setters.

And then I will implement them like a cross-sell for my current clients and not to other companies.

Wow.

I feel like building and teaching people how to do sales from zero to like work class salespeople is the vision that I want to go.

Because I was able to teach all to my clients from absolute zero to like selling high ticket offers for like five ten thirty K in the next two months around like 30% conversion rate on the calls.

Holy crap.

Yeah, so I've been like really good about like teaching people Salesforce zero.

Yeah, that's great.

Yeah, Dennis does really well.

Yeah.

Dennis helped me a lot with that.

Like I was like a I was a bot seller like a couple of years ago.

I remember I was on my first Salesco in the English market

like three or five years ago.

And I couldn't like, my game is not perfect and back then it was worse so I needed to type like the price for a short form video edit like I didn't know how to pronounce 30 I need to like type in the Zoom like 30 for each short and then I meet Dennis in one coaching program and then we just started working together with my company and he's helping me with everything

like high-level vision sales in training and teaching me on sales i learned a lot yeah shout out to dennis de geza man he's a beast he's he's got a lot of companies under him doing six figures a month yeah even more like i think like the the econ wolf is doing close to million a month right now holy crap it's nuts dude and it's so scalable too yeah because info products yeah exactly that's the cool thing that with uh i left e-commerce because the margins are thin and it takes too much time you know info products you could sell something for five 10k deal with them for an hour or whatever maybe and you're you're good yeah you know

so that's the move for sure um well dude where can people find you and uh learn more about you?

Yeah, they can go to YouTube, Mashi Gavronski, and also Instagram, Maschi Gavronski2.

And that's the best places to find more information about me.

Cool, we'll link below.

Thanks for coming on, man.

Thank you.

Yup, thanks for watching, guys.

See you next time.